Jesus vs Joseph Smith: Romans 1:1-5

The Mormon Church claims that Joseph Smith was foretold in Old Testament prophecy. Let's examine those claims in this verse by verse study of Romans 1:1-5.
This study is part of a series on the book of Romans from pastor Mike Winger. Check this KZbin channel for more messages from Mike Winger.

[@sheresejames]

If you see this comment, say a prayer for Pastor Mike. God bless him! He helps us so much.

[@jeffwarren6906]

I have seen your comment , and I am praying for Pastor Mike . God bless you Sherese

[@TheGentileGabe]

He helped me so much with anxiety about the old law. I thank God in my prayers for helping me find his channel.

[@Wesstuntube]

Mike, you forgot the BEST prophecy of Joseph Smith in the Bible. Matthew 24:11 - "And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray."

[@LostCoastEDC]

He didn’t forget. He talks about that in other videos. Joseph Smith… feel bad for all he led astray 😢

[@djadams7795]

Mike Winger is a lying idiot.

[@djadams7795]

Egotistical narcissistic liar, Mike Winger

[@julianaallen8477]

Exactly what I think when I see all these Mormons or any cults.. didn't they read that verse? I feel terrible for the people born into these cults

[@davidortega357]

Jesus said beware in the last days many false prophets shall arise many shall come in my Name that's why we have so many Christian denominations we have Apostolic Pentecostal, Pentecostal, baptists, Catholic, Lutheran, Mormons, presbyterian, evangelical, Jehovah wits, Islam, Jesus freaks, trinitarian, Oneness Apostolic, church of the dead dry bones , Paul said if we or an angel preach an other gospel than what we have preach unto you let be a curse Galatians 1 9 .Luke 24 47 in that repentence and Remission of sin should be preached among all nations in his name beginning at Jerusalem that what his disciples did they preached the true gospel Acts 2 38 and Oneness of God

[@jonmoonswesternnyoutdoorad5750]

Thank you for the teachings on Mormonism here. I was a 40 year temple attending mormon who was able to find God's true grace. Keep up the good teaching.

[@Leah97526]

I wish you could talk to my Mormon sister :( She was deceived 45 years ago ... I've prayed for her, then her 5 children and now her 23 grandchildren that ONE of them would speak the truth and lead her to the Jesus of the Bible, instead of the counterfeit Jesus of Mormonism. Each year, she defends it more intensely and with more fervor. Her husband is a member of the Quorum of Seventy. I ACHE knowing that she will spend eternity apart from Almighty God and all that is good!

[@koltoncrane3099]

Perhaps you could answer my question since you are no longer Mormon. How do you follow the Jesus of the Bible without the priesthood and baptism? Jesus was perfect and he still was baptized by John which had the priesthood to baptize. It’s pretty clear we all need to be baptized, but how if no church has the priesthood?

[@Robinfuckable]

@@koltoncrane3099 The question is not what you should be asking. The question you should be asking" Do Mormons hold the Priesthood of Aaron and the Melchizedek order. The answer according to the Holy Bible is no What did the Priest of Aaron do basically? they did animal sacrifices to God. What happen to the Temple when Jesus Christ died on the Cross. The temple veils were rent. Signifying that Jesus final sacrifice put an end to the Levitical or lower priesthood. Basically you are practicing a false priesthood. As for Melchizedek only Jesus Christ holds that order. No one else. it can not be handed down. The power of Melchizedek can work miracles. No man has this power only Jesus Christ Read Hebrews chapter 7 if you want to have your eyes open. There is no need for Prophets or Apostles running a church Our Lord God is the last Prophet. There is the spirit of prophecy which is a gift. But any one claiming to be a Prophet is a False Prophet . second Peter 2 And when the Apostles finished their missions spreading and setting up Christ's gospel There was no need for Apostles after they perished We are disciples of Christ and can give our life as a pastor, Elder , teacher etc.which are positions recognized as a body that is govern by the Grace of God Read Hebrews 7 with prayer don't take my word for it TCOJCOLDS DOES NOT HOLD ANY OF THE PRIESTHOODS THEY CLAIM TO HOLD

[@koltoncrane3099]

@@Robinfuckable I agree with you partially. Some people claim they hold the priesthood because they went to priest school and got it there. Read Acts 8:12 . It says that the man has the power of god which is the priesthood since Philip baptized them in the name of Jesus. You can't baptize someone if you don't have the authority. That's why John the Baptist baptized people because he had the aaronic priesthood. But those same people didn't receive the holy ghost because John the Baptist didn't have the Melchizedek priesthood. Act 8: 17 they conferred the holy ghost by the laying on of hands. Acts 8: 18-20. Simon tried to buy this power but was rebuked. Matt. 16:13-19, Peter received the keys of the kingdom of heaven on the mount of transfiguration. He received the sealing power which Elijah had to seal the heavens. This we believe to be the key of sealing which you obtain once you have the higher priesthood. Matt 10: 1-8 the apostles received power to cast out spirits and heal the afflicted. This clearly shows that the apostles had power. This power always though was the Melchizedek priesthood. Why do you think that the apostles never received this priesthood when they could cast out spirits, heal people, and confer on people the Holy Ghost?

[@koltoncrane3099]

@@Robinfuckable I read Hebrews 7. I've read it before and I don't see where it says we no longer need prophets. Without the authority no man can baptize in christs name. Even John the Baptist and the apostles needed the authority to baptize or give the gift of the holy ghost. The chapter mentions Jesus. When Jesus rent the temple curtain and died on the cross he ended the law of Moses so sacrifices were no longer needed, but instead a broken heart and contrite spirit. Perhaps you could pick out the verse that says theres no need for the priesthood? Because if the apostles had it and John the Baptist had it I kind of think we still need it for baptism and the Holy Ghost.

[@tweezy5804]

I look at the absolute toxicity of social media and youtube and often wished it would all vanish , but then there are channels and videos like this, which truly are amazing. I mean to think that even in 10, 20 years someone studying romans can go back and watch these videos is truly amazing and inspiring. You have helped me gain a greater grasp on soo much of the bible and I thank you for it brother.

[@Andy-wo9bm]

There was definitely a very toxic vibe in the middle when ridicule of other faiths took off. Not very Christian to me, especially when people laugh and snicker in the audience. Not a true pastor, but definitely a “smarty pants” for sure.

[@MasterfulPeon]

@@Andy-wo9bm I’d say you calling his talking points on a false prophet ‘toxic’ because he tried to insert a bit of humour into his sermon is a lot more worrying.

[@KingPoseidon02]

@@MasterfulPeon if you didn't believe he was a prophet, you wouldn't be speaking ill of a dead man, now would you?

[@MasterfulPeon]

@@KingPoseidon02 that doesn’t make any sense. How does me calling him a false prophet imply in any way that I believe he is one? I call him a false prophet because he wasn’t a prophet, and has misled many people down a dangerous path. The bible warns us of false gospels and doctrines and how they lead people away from God.

[@KingPoseidon02]

@@MasterfulPeon do you even know what a prophet is? Or do you think like a gentile and believe a prophet foresees the future?

[@angietyndall7337]

"The truth shall set you free." -Ex-Mormon.

[@hungrybruh]

Wuhooooo 🥳🥳

[@TheSpiritofTruthJoseph]

The word is truth, it’s good to read or try to understand different versions in reference to different practices or languages, I like hearing different opinions & understanding how it applied to your own personal life

[@JosephLachh]

What truths caused you to be set free, personally? I’d love to hear your journey. LDS is active on my college campus and I want to know how to share truth as much as I can in a way the Mormons would understand.

[@vanessadesire7]

Amen 🙏🏼🤍

[@FromJosephtoJesus]

@@JosephLachh The entirety of Joseph Smith’s claims of new revelation is on a head on collision with the biblical truth. Actually, all of the essential Christian doctrines have been changed in Mormonism: the nature of God, the person of Christ, the nature of man, salvation, etc. I was raised LDS and nowadays record videos here on KZbin for the purpose of doing outreach to them.

[@kgilkey65]

Praise the Lord for this expository teaching in Romans. I have started an indepth study of Romans personally at home and the Lord lead me to this to accompany my study. Thank you for serving God as you do edifying the body of Christ that we many run this race with due diligence, keeping our eye on the mark of the call glorifying God our Father and Savior Jesus!!

[@nougat1020]

I had goosebumps when you talked about the conversion of Paul. Thank you so much about your teaching which talks to my heart and my mind.

[@dorothysittler8120]

I love how Mike is dedicated to TRUTH. John 14:6

[@williamfowler8686]

From now on when anybody says other religions such as muslims can't be saved "Your ancestors were pagan" is now my permanent comeback. Beautiful

[@swithinegwuchim481]

Mike, your indepth videos are a blessing to Christianity. Thank you so much 🥰.

[@bethplavidal4129]

That distinctive laugh I've heard in many of your videos in the back ground. It cracks me up and blesses me to hear it. It is a real joy giver laugh.

[@cadenjosiah9515]

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[@camiloallen174]

@Caden Josiah Definitely, been watching on InstaFlixxer for since december myself =)

[@yeetus_reetus_deeleetus]

Don't listen to the flixone bots

[@EdwardJOrmsby]

Mike, my little brother (age 15) in Big Brothers Big Sisters is a Christian, but he is looking at Mormonism because his friend is Mormon. I have sent him this video and your playlist on Mormonism. Thank you so very much for your diligence and work on behalf of Christ. May you continue to be blessed in the ministry that the Lord has given to you. ✝️👍

[@kimdavid4406]

It's 2024 and I've just discovered Mike. I love going thru the comments and seeing how many people are led out of Mormonism and into the truth with his teachings!! ❤

[@dianajin3861]

The reading in John came to life when studying the word along with your video. Thank you and Praise God!

[@shanecolunga2484]

I love Mike's style of presentation and explanations! Thanks for making things easier to understand.

[@bmoyer006]

Took lots of notes. Can't wait for this series to continue. Thanks again for sharing!

[@bethanylebaron1494]

Wow! I am so in awe and grateful for this compilation of truth and clarification of Mormonism. I became a Christian in 2020 and was raised in mormon doctrine it is so nice to get the teachings pointed out and clarified that they arent true. My mind is infected with mormon doctrine even though I beleive the Bible. I had not studdied the mormon doctrine because i beleived that i needed to studdy the bible to compare it before i read the mormon documents to determine weather they were true or not. I never got to studdying them. I am so grateful that i can know for sure that mormonism isn't of God without having to studdy it myself and possibly be deceived from lack of wisdom.

[@lindadechow3703]

Thank you for this series. I have been led to study Romans this year, along with my daily study. This is very good.

[@36742650885]

Please pray for me and my family we need your intercession

[@paulgregersen3570]

Judah doesn't believe in Jesus Christ so they have no covenent today. They are not converted into Christ appears on the mount if Olives. You need to consider why God made America the land of gathering. You need to ask why Jacob gave Isreals birthright to Joseph for the last days. Why the stick if Joseph was written for all the tribe of Joseph and for all if Israel. And why Ezekiel said it will be the children of later generations that see the writings of the Jews combine with the writings of Joseph. To track the Bible answers watch my Book of Abraham part 7 video.

[@AgathaDrinksTea]

You're in my prayers.

[@mitchellpurdy7194]

@@paulgregersen3570 praying for you that you find truth in Christ and the New Testament. America was never designated as anything by God, and the Book of Abraham is entirely fabricated from Egyptian funeral texts that literally have nothing to do with anything Joseph Smith wrote.

[@paulgregersen3570]

@@mitchellpurdy7194 I'm afraid it is you that needs prayed for. I prove from the new testament that America is number eight in Johns sequence of world powers. They even talk about going through the sea on boats to reach the land of the eagle in Dueteronomy and other places as clear as day. I prove why the above video is wrong about the book of Abraham to the point no one will dare challenge me as you can see on the comments on my video by posting critics. Click KZbin title " Book of Abraham part 9" by P. Gregersen where the book of Abraham is actually the first blueprint to solve the mark of the beast for the very first time. Nothing to do with what the guy in the video is talking about. Watch how 666 is even solved for the first time in 2,000 years. You must test before you talk. Or will you run away a d suppose you already know when you donnot yet? .

[@mitchellpurdy7194]

@@paulgregersen3570 I have tested it and left the church. You think you become gods, joseph Smith literally makes up the word telestial and rewrites the bible in his own words, even going so far as to add 12 new verses not found in genesis chapter 50. Joseph Smith was a drunk, a fraud, and spoke complete blasphemy of the old and New Testament. What’s even more hilarious is we have the Dead Sea scrolls conforming the verses he add in genesis never existed.

[@Floridarightfloridaright]

I’ve had so many my questions that I’ve held for so long answered in your videos. Thank you

[@swornereborne2756]

Solid evidence against Mormonism begins around 23:40 min- but the intro is amazing so only skip if you don't have the time

[@djmissgucciflipflops1089]

Evidence LOL just 100 percent of LDS is false if you studied lol

[@penguinman9837]

@@djmissgucciflipflops1089 Except that we believe that Jesus is the one true Christ and God. He is our Savior and Redeemer. If we are 100% wrong, then that must also be wrong. Just sayin.

[@carbon273]

Joe Broderick Yeah you’re not 100% wrong. I don’t know why Christianity thinks that people who believe differently are of the antichrist. If you believe Jesus is Lord and God raised him from the dead and that he came in the flesh you are a Christian. Theologically that’s what every Christian shares and that IS the foundation to be saved. Stemming from that point is where I would disagree with Mormonism.

[@penguinman9837]

@@carbon273 thank you. What exactly do you disagree with?

[@all4jesus594]

@@penguinman9837 hello sir, , My concern for the LDS among other things is that they worship Another Christ and Another Heavenly Father, ( Mormonism follows King Follett discourse gods that Joseph Smith taught). These are false and cannot save you. LDS gospel also is saved by obedience to laws and ordinances, after you are perfected then grace kicks in. This is not the true gospel of Jesus Christ. While Christian's believe in following the commandments, and that we will show good fruit if we are in Christ, it is the Work of Christ that Saves. Even our faith in Him is a grace we recieve from Him. All glory goes to Him. We do not become gods . Blasphemy, idolotry. Please reread Bible, and research further the history and doctrine of LDS from objective resources. Blessings.

[@debbieloy5284]

Thank you for teaching the word of God with a love for God. Listening to the end of your teaching where your talking about how Paul saw Gods calling on his life as grace to be sharing the gospel. Paul wasnt arrogant. I heard a pastor say that since I was brought here to build this church you get to hear the gospel. It was like since I was called to be here to start this church, you guys wouldn't be here to hear the gospel. WHAT!!! Was I hearing this person right or what??? It made me sad. Yes, no matter what goes on in my life the most important thing is Gods glory, not my being healed or whatever. God gets ALL the GLORY. It belongs to Him. We dont or shouldn't be trying to share in Gods glory. It's all His. Thanks again.

[@kkdoc7864]

Debbie Loy Well said!!

[@AnaAna-ks7sf]

Mike you never dissapoint! Eagerly awaiting your next video. Continue the great work! God bless

[@yosef6664]

I am a return missionary from the Mormon Church. I had my name removed from the Mormon Church in 1996. I am born again now, but the Mormon cult stole much of my life and put me on a long path of wrestling with God until I finally surrendered. Praise Yeshua Hamashiach, my LORD and Saviour.

[@ellenitg]

God bless you abundantly pastor Mike

[@loveyallyangu]

"If God can save me, God can save them." Thank you Mike

[@alexr.3504]

Just listening to this series and loving it! Also, I couldn’t stop laughing about the Horton hears a who joke for a full two minutes 😂

[@benjaminvalenti1242]

Thank you Mike winger for saying that about everybody has a chance to know Jesus no matter where they come from it only takes two things to qualify for you to be somebody deserving of Jesus a pulse and a soul and that is it

[@brauliobl18]

Thank you brother. I really appreciate you and your devotion to our Lord and His Church.

[@kevinwynn6582]

Mike, I really liked this video. A lot of times when I read Paul's letters I tend to hurry through his introductions to get to the good stuff. You are pulling so much good stuff out of his introduction I guess I should slow down and pay more attention to them. Somewhere around min. 44 you are talking about "the faith" several churches use the Nicene Creed (Catholic, Lutheran, Presbyterian etc...) as a statement of faith of course in the Protestant churches the term catholic church is spelled with a lower case C and just means the universal body of believers in Christ. I was just wondering if you agreed with the Nicene creed as a general statement of the faith? Or do you find anything biblically problematic with it? Thanks Kevin.

[@aeleceashley8458]

Mike, will you please speak on finding a congregation. X jw for 30 years and I struggle with churches because so many times theres the word but the people judging looking you up and down. I want a church that everyone is living for Jesus and no financial status or physical item owned would make less or more.

[@johnleistra]

Adding a comment here just to get it past that number, love the series!

[@brotherinchrist72]

I was once heavily indoctrinated into Mormonism in the early 1980's ~ 2000's and can tell you the many things I was taught regarding the deeper theology they were teaching. What I see, even to this day, are many different answers from Mormons and they confuse their own speech, their own understanding, but are quick to fall back on "pray about the Book of Mormon until you get the right answer" which is what I was told by Mormon leaders back in those times. They kept referencing these "feelings" and you have to help Mormons understand their own theology first, by oftentimes showing them their own beliefs that are listed on their Mormon website, as many refute much of the deeper theologies they teach until you show them. I pray for all Mormons that more will have their eyes opened to the truth of the correct Christ, the correct God, of the Bible.

[@MessegerAwesome12]

Ufff have been awaited for a new upload. 💪💪💪 :))

[@katiesonlinename]

There are certain parts of this video that I would really like to show to someone but I don't want to send them the whole video. Is it possible to just take clips from this video? Would that be allowed?

[@robertkarlsson4918]

Mike, can you please turn on the text so my family can understand what you're saying. Looking foreward to see your videos.

[@allthethingsyouwillsee1081]

Thanks Pastor Mike

[@stonefallknives5518]

"Strike one" is a failure. "One symbol that means dog can not mean more in translation". Except that constantly exists in language even when not crossing the boundary of translation, which is even more complex with context of individual cultures. For example: Bat To explain that word entirely is to explain an animal, a sport, a motion, a gunfighter, and a few other things including complex metaphor. This is something even a 5 year old understands.

[@jenniferwalsh1731]

God's glory is bigger than anything else, amen!

[@thethathen]

This title perfectly explains why I left the LDS church to be Christian. The greatest rebuttals to Joseph Smith's doctrines come from Jesus Himself

[@JosephLachh]

I had to look up the song at the end, and apparently it’s written by this guy named Mike Winger. Found it on Spotify and it’s $1 on the website I found it on. (Mike is it okay if I made a cover of this song on KZbin)

[@KingPoseidon02]

You know it is truly remarkable when someone compares Jesus to someone who claims to be a prophet. Especially with how many Bible verses teach not to pass judgment on another.

[@BigAl53750]

If you are referring to Matthew 7:1, keep reading, because later in that same chapter, Jesus tells His listeners to exercise judgment of false teachers, by checking their fruits (Mat.7:15-20) I don’t know of any other scriptures that tell us not to judge others, but plenty that command us to judge righteous judgment, and to compare the teachings of men to the scriptures. There is no biblical blanket ban on judging whether or not a person is preaching and teaching the Truth of the scriptures.

[@KingPoseidon02]

@@BigAl53750 yes that is one of them. And I do agree that is why I am saying Mike Winger is a false teacher. If he would not compare one who has claimed to be a prophet with God, then I could sit there and listen. Instead, Mike is a false teacher who knows only how to find scriptures but is ignorant towards their richer meaning.

[@JosephLachh]

Interesting theory on how Paul recognized the gospel in the Old Testament. I often wonder how he just suddenly knew how the Old Testament has always proclaimed Jesus after he was confronted by Jesus.

[@RUT812]

Paul was initially named Saul and was born in the city of Tarsus in modern-day Turkey. He was raised in the Pharisee sect of Judaism, a sect known for its strict adherence to Old Testament laws. Saul went on to become an expert in Jewish law and historians believe that he was a member of the Sanhedrin, the Jewish high court who was most infamously known for turning Jesus over to the Roman authorities to be tried and crucified. In his religious extremism, Saul displayed no compassion for any Jew believed to be violating the Jewish laws. For example, Scripture tells us that Saul witnessed and consented to the stoning of Stephen, the first Christian martyr (Acts 7:58; 8:1). After Stephen was killed, Saul was part of “a great persecution” of the early Christian church, imprisoning and beating Christian men and women in an attempt to stamp out Christianity (Acts 8:1,3). Ironically, Saul’s attempt to smother Christianity actually had the effect of fanning its flames beyond the city of Jerusalem. More specifically, the exiled Christians did not go into hiding but became missionaries who spread the Good News of Jesus Christ wherever they went (Acts 8:4). Outraged by the spread of Christianity beyond Jerusalem’s walls, Saul left Jerusalem to hunt down and imprison the Christians who were preaching in Damascus (Acts 9:1-2). It was on the road to Damascus that Saul literally saw the light and heard the voice of Jesus asking Saul for the account of his role in the persecution of Christians (Acts 9:3-6). Saul would go on to repent and go from being a zealous persecutor of Christians to a zealous evangelist of Christianity (Acts 9:18-20). Saul preached so extensively throughout the Roman Empire that he eventually adopted the Roman version of his name, Paul. During these missionary journeys, Paul wrote letters to the churches he founded in Asia Minor and Europe. In these letters, Paul further educated the new Christian communities about Jesus’ teachings and how they should live as brothers and sisters in Christ. Source: 𝘾𝙝𝙧𝙞𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙖𝙣𝙞𝙩𝙮.𝙘𝙤𝙢

[@deborahclifton2699]

Can you provide the playlist for the Romans vs by vs studies, pls?

[@michaelmagee4318]

It is easier to fool someone than to convince them they have been fooled. --Mark Twain

[@NewCreationInChrist896]

The Mormons Theology: He said, “For we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do” (2 Nephi 25:23). The Word of GOD Romans 11:6 "And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.

[@BbulL2027]

What about James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

[@dsymonkey]

MIKE IS THAT YOU SINGING AT THE END?!?1?!?!?1?1?!

[@ronnythompson9115]

Joseph Smith sadly went against Galatians 1:6-9 & Revelation 22:18-19

[@Be_Nice1200]

Doesn't God's Glory supersede us? By that I mean, does He really new us for His Glory, or not?

[@marjn1030]

We are FIRST believers in Christ. Christianity is a religion/group that researched the old and new testament. Those who were christ-like were called christians because they mimic the works and character of Christ. We must always remember to read the word for ourselves to gain truth from God and not depend on religious institutions.

[@danteluna032961]

please, look into the restoration movement, too

[@angietyndall7337]

@Mike Winger What Bible version do you use during the Biblical Series and your Friday lectures/discussions?

[@RandallLind]

For Romans study he was using the NKJV but he mentions NLT in a video called The Best Bible Version May Depend on Your Education Level. Then he adds a couple more if you are a higher reader.

[@judyswiderski2682]

The King James Bible is considered a 7th grade read. It seems a bit tongue twisting when you first start out but quickly becomes second nature. Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary online is very helpful..It has secular and spiritual definitions. We are told to study. "Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not n be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2 Timothy 2:15. I truly do not believe studying the lying bibles are what God is saying here. They are confusion and lead to confusion and doubt.

[@zarny819]

Your dealing message is amazing ... thanks

[@jumpropestairs6129]

The only prophesy Joe fulfilled was - he came in sheeps clothing, and he preached another gospel. The only way to keep you Mormon is to not find out about the truth. So outlandish and fraudulent, Joseph came to restore the church and he didn't do a very good job because we're sill debating on the internet.

[@lagg-alot8308]

In reference to Romans 1:1 Paul was separated by The Holy Ghost unto a special task. Acts 13:2 (King James Version) As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.

[@hanichay1163]

A weird contradiction is that while Mormons rely so much on their feelings, they also don’t care at all about what is going on in the heart, purity, motivations, love of God, lust, etc. it’s all on the very surface. Just trust the leaders. Isn’t that relying totally on the arm of the flesh? And aren’t we cursed for doing that?

[@DTWon]

Feelings vs. Jeremiah 17:9. I think I'll go with the Word of God on this one!

[@MiamiahRobbie]

The first pastor too preach in the little mountain, a picture of a five fold ministry.. this one is for Paul i didn't forget regards Miamiah in the spirit of Elijah, Jesus is the Apostle, Paul was the second apostle teaching on the Five Fold platform with the Seven gifts of the Holy Spirit. with a touch of Wiglesworth, John G Lake Testimonies.

[@MiamiahRobbie]

Wigglesworth, and the Holy Spirit moves, John G Lake they cried in there train seats, Jesus wept.

[@MiamiahRobbie]

Yes, its hard too teach in English from a angelic tongue, 1.5 the Revelation is seen a pastor, with intercession Mike. Winger Ding meaning too sound a bell, evangelizing teachings with intercession bringing Reimo, beautiful regards Miamiah..

[@matthewphillips3926]

Jo Smith talk starts 23:44

[@mrs.garcia6978]

Wow that last point. Arrow to my heart.

[@lindamcclellan4721]

You lost me somewhere....I thought we were studying Romans,,,,,

[@jamesjahavey1681]

2 Corinthians 6:1, 2 Working together with him, we also entreat you not to accept the undeserved kindness of God and miss its purpose.   For he says: “In an acceptable time I heard you, and in a day of salvation I helped you.” Look! Now is the especially acceptable time. Look! Now is the day of salvation.

[@JaGurL11]

Hi can someone pls tell me the bible version he's using? Thank you =)

[@ssfisher5]

I think it is the New American Standard Bible

[@mikechristian-vn1le]

I don't know about the Greek, or Hellenistic, practices during Roman times, but "bondservant" doesn't mean "slave." it's someone who works for another, or who is part of household, whose only pay is food, clothing, shelter and, in dangerous societies, protection, and maybe pocket money. but need not just be a domestic servant: it might be a tutor for the master's or household's children, or a former solder to protect the home and family, a man to keep household accounts, a chief steward.

[@dolfanatic314]

Use water. Water is a liquid. Water in a gaseous matter is steam. Water is a solid as in Ice. but all three are still water.

[@leef_me8112]

That is modalism, it says that one substance in 3 states. The trinity is 3 person who are One God.

[@goesthadistance]

Great video. Thank you.

[@ank9218]

God being glorified

[@rickhuntling7338]

Dan. 9:24 prophesy the silent years of sealing up the vision and the prophecy after 7 week in 9:25. The decree for Messiah cut of was granted to Nehemiah on Nisan 14th 454 bc at the 9th hour. Trust me the day and hour is in Nehemiah I found it with belief. 49 years later the Tanakh is Canonized. 62 more weeks pass and it is Nisan 14th 31 ad on a Thursday ✝️ at the 9th hour "it is finished"

[@cheerfulmouse]

Min 36: How we doing on time? 🤣 Okay verse 2 😅

[@jmgorospe4235]

Title of the song at the end? Thanks

[@00carl46]

24:20 This joke killed. Can somebody explain it to me?

[@holidayrap]

To whom ever will listen let me declare that God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ appeared to Joseph Smith and called him to be a Prophet. This I know and I will not deny.

[@Wilvekio69]

No, you feel it in your burning bosom…. It would have been Christs second coming if he appeared Joseph’s Myth!

[@andrewunthank3521]

How do you know that?

[@holidayrap]

@@andrewunthank3521 As with the existence of God Himself. Our question should be to seek if it is true or not. "With out faith it is impossible to please Him.

[@Wilvekio69]

@@holidayrap my faith isn’t based on a false book and doctrine! The Holy Bible is the only book I need. You can quote bom, doc, pogp all day long and it won’t mean squat!

[@holidayrap]

@@Wilvekio69 My faith isn't based on a false book either. And you don't have to tell me what you need or mean. Take it up at the Judgement seat.

[@BethanyJuel]

Wonderful lesson 🤍

[@dolfanatic314]

Here it comes people that miss church for work or activity is sinning. Then any parents that allow their kids to play sports or other activity are not true Christians. My daughters were premiere athletes but because of school the best teams play on weekends.

[@jonathanspangenberg1563]

Great job. Thank you

[@cjsilva4850]

Does anyone know what translation he is using?

[@RUT812]

He mentioned the NKJV.

[@Fudgieguys1969]

John 3:16 this is all you need to know the truth, PERIOD>

[@midimusicforever]

Joseph Smith = Muhammad but 1000 years later and on another continent.

[@paulbriggs3072]

Mike spreads an error here. At 42:08 to 45:30 Mike helps spread -perhaps inadvertently, the old false teaching idea that Paul was the first to preach to the Gentiles and that Jews were reluctant to accept this unless they first became Jews. Mike then says, "But Paul's like declaring it. It's ALL nations." This is not the case. Peter preached to and baptized Gentiles at the house of Cornelius in Haifa. Then when he returned to Jerusalem to answer criticism of Apostles and believers there, he described what happened and Acts 11 :18 says of his church critics, When they heard this, they had no further objections and praised God, saying, “So then, even to Gentiles God has granted repentance that leads to life.” Then the VERY NEXT LINES say: Now those who had been scattered by the persecution that broke out when Stephen was killed traveled as far as Phoenicia, Cyprus and Antioch, spreading the word only among Jews. Some of them, however, men from Cyprus and Cyrene, went to Antioch and began to speak to Greeks also, telling them the good news about the Lord Jesus. The Lord’s hand was with them, and a great number of people believed and turned to the Lord. News of this reached the church in Jerusalem, and they sent Barnabas to Antioch. When he arrived and saw what the grace of God had done, he was glad and encouraged them all to remain true to the Lord with all their hearts. Acts 11:19-23 All this was before Paul had preached to a single Gentile. In fact it then says in the next verses that Barnabas went to Tarsus to look for Paul and brought him back up to Antioch and exposed him to it there. This took many days of travel there and back on foot. So if anyone tells you like Mike did that the Jews were reluctant to accept Gentiles being saved but Paul wins them over , or declares otherwise to convince them, ....no. They were convinced by Peter and Barnabas and the other un-named men that it was right to accept Gentiles even before Paul first preached to them.

[@donnavaughn9409]

paul wore his life out correcting what the saints were doing, they didn't have modern resources

[@judylloyd7901]

A servant serves for wages. A slave is owned. We are not Christ's servants. We are His slaves. That's why Jesus said "No one can serve two masters." We are owned by one. We have either one master, or another. Not two opposing masters.

[@roberteaston6413]

Reuben Archer Torrey, who died in 1928, wrote that there were verses in Romans Chapter one that were so graphic in its description of sin that they could not be read in front of mixed company and children. How times have changed.

[@kirstenwicksell2897]

Robert Easton I think you need to read Romans 1 there are no verses that could not be read in front of anyone

[@kirstenwicksell2897]

@Mike Helland I think you are talking bout a comment made by Robert Easton not me

[@eugenebowman150]

Was it me of did you go off subject?

[@tookie36]

How about Paul vs Joseph Smith?

[@johnroberts6695]

I'm not certain how Romans 1:1-5 proves anything about whether Joseph Smith is in the Bible. I listened to as much as I could, but reading the passages tells me nothing. The reason Paul uses the term "apostle" is because he is one. I believe Paul was ordained an apostle and that apostle not only means "sent one," but that apostle also is an office. Christians today don't think anything about authority, but authority meant a great deal to the ancient Christians and Jews. And that includes ordinations. Now anyone with a building and a can of paint can open their own church. But the ancient apostles held the keys of the kingdom, something only the Catholics and Latter-day Saints claim to possess.

[@NauvooExpositor]

John Roberts I think he’s just trying to lurch at straws with Romans. I honestly found most of his arguments weak. Not “clear” as he states. I guess he’s deceived himself into thinking he had a good argument in this video.

[@aeleceashley8458]

The thing about feeling with the lds faith is interesting to me being raised jw. Not now dor 30 years but as a little girl I went door to door a ton my mom was a pioneer 90 hours. Every time I saw a photo of Joseph Smith I told my mom he was an evil man that satan used. No clue about his teaching. I didn’t even want to go in a house with her if his picture was there. That being said some of the most loving people I know are lds wich breaks my heart because I understand being sincere and devout to false teachings.

[@alanam9103]

Good job!!👍🏼👏🏽🙌🏻🤗

[@nicolasgarcia9199]

Add captions please, I am deaf.

[@angietyndall7337]

Have you tried going into KZbin pull down menu?

[@nicolasgarcia9199]

@@angietyndall7337 His other videos have cc, this one doesn't. I tried Settings /gear icon and no option for caption. I use android phone and now it has Live caption app that will give caption to any app using video like tiktok, ig, etc.

[@benjaminvalenti1242]

Yes his eyes were open as they where shut

[@AlexanderosD]

So this is a bit dated, but I was following along and noticed the quotation from Isaiah 29:20-22, What the Joseph Smith version is fabricating sounds like a weak paraphrase from earlier in Isaiah 29:11-12 "And the vision of all this has become to you like words of a book that is sealed. When men give it to one who can read, saying, "Read this," he says, "I cannot, for it is sealed." And when they give the book to one who cannot read, saying, "Read this," he says, "I cannot read." In the actual bible, those verses are pointing out a negative aspect that people had turned away from the Lord and are now staggering and confused and all kinds of messed up from their rejection of the Lord. Ironically not the best verses to be cherry picking from. I'm assuming that quote from Horton and his book of who, using Isaiah 29 was just them not knowing the bible, because they obviously don't read it, but just wanted to point that out from the whole chapter context.

[@nativebutnotofthisworld9792]

Why would you compare anyone to Christ?

[@MikeWinger]

Joseph Smith once compared himself to Christ. Here is a quote of Joseph Smith from the LDS document “History of the Church” vol. 6, page 408-409 “I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.”

[@nativebutnotofthisworld9792]

@@MikeWinger I wouldn't call that comparing himself to Christ. Maybe he just knew he fulfilled prophesy. John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

[@jon...6825]

@@nativebutnotofthisworld9792 That's mocking. He put himself about Jesus christ. God bless you....

[@thomasmaughan4798]

"Why would you compare anyone to Christ?" Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father in Heaven is perfect. There's a comparison.

[@joeb2588]

Please dont refer to him as a prophet. Joe Smith was nothing more than some guy with some wierd hangups.

[@thecontender4487]

Perhaps it's due to a simple misunderstanding; "prophet" and "profit" sound alike...

[@joeb2588]

@@thecontender4487 yah, you're right

[@skeptical6307]

Joseph Smith was a convicted con artist before he ever wrote the Book of Mormon... You'd think that would also clue people in... Not to mention all the warnings in the Bible about false prophets and false teachers and the Bible's teachings on how to identify a false prophet.

[@joeb2588]

@@skeptical6307 I know! I dont know how anyone could follow such an odd path. Crazy really.

[@skeptical6307]

@@joeb2588 my friends are actually quite sane lol. They are brainwashed by the LDS organization to believe that the Bible has errors. They also urgue that other prophets, such as Jonah, and other teachers, such as Matthew, weren't perfect and God used them for his purposes. What they completely miss is that yes, Jonah wasn't perfect... He tried to run from what God wanted him to do, however, after doing as God instructed his prophesy came true. Some of Joseph Smith's prophesies did not, therefore, according to the Bible he was a false prophet and all his prophesies should be ignored. Matthew, yes, wasn't perfect. He was a tax collector which meant he was likely a bit of a thief, charging people more than he should, but once he was following Jesus, he changed and put the teachings of Jesus and following Jesus first. Joseph Smith had numerous wives... The LDS will say many people had many wives in the Bible. However, just because they had many wives didn't mean God approved. Also, once a person becomes a Christian, their heart is changed and they strive to do what is right. They aren't perfect but they try to be. I forget how many wives Smith had and I don't care enough to look it up lol... But if he was a Christian, he only would have had one. He wouldn't have been perfect, he would have slipped up now and then because he was human, but having numerous wives isn't a slip up. It's not the same as telling a lie in the heat of the moment and then recognizing though the work of the Holy spirit that you were wrong, asking for forgiveness because you slipped up, and striving to do better next time. It's a conscious and blatant rebellion against God. I don't understand how they don't see that. But the Bible says Satan will prevent some non-believers from seeing the truth.

[@iroh8946]

The resurrection for christ like baptism for the Christian, are announcement to the world

[@kimlibera663]

Just because it's not in the Bible does not mean it's not part of the story. Many books in the Bible were edited into the canon because of schools of thought at the time. There were also many others left out because it did not fit the internal politics.

[@BigAl53750]

WRONG! The books that were accepted into Canon were only those books that the Christians of the day had ALREADY come to recognise as the word of God. Look up Mike’s teachings about how we got the scriptures. This claim you make has been brought by many sceptics and has been so thoroughly refuted by so many scholars that it’s absolutely acceptable to affirm the Bible we have today is the whole of God’s word.

[@essennagerry]

"Like, ughhh, you know? Anyway…" - Mike Winger, 2017

[@KingPoseidon02]

Mike I have some questions for you. Do you think that Peter was greater than Christ or do you think Peter was a witness of the resurrected Christ? Do you think that Moses is greater than Christ? If the answer is no, then why do you elevate Joseph Smith to the level of Christ when Joseph Smith said, "My mission is to testify of Christ." It sounds like to me you believe Joseph Smith is a god, when I know he was a man of God. Whether we agree with him or not, we should never ever elevate a person to the level of Christ, even to make videos for profit.

[@UrsahSolar]

1. There are no ads on any of Mike's videos, neither does he take sponsorships. The accusation that he's in it for the money is slander and you should be ashamed of yourself. 2. Mike isn't elevating Joseph Smith. Mike is exposing that self-worshiping narcissist for the false prophet that he is. Joseph Smith called himself better than Jesus. "I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet..." Did you catch that? He said he had to boast about than Jesus himself.

[@KingPoseidon02]

@@UrsahSolar Mike like yourself are filled with the spirit of the devil.

[@KingPoseidon02]

@@UrsahSolar if you have no ads that means he has a strike on him for hate speech.

[@UrsahSolar]

@@KingPoseidon02 Actually, you can CHOOSE not to have ads on your channel. I choose not to have ads on mine because YouTubing is a hobby for me. I've been a fan of Mike Winger for years and he's never had ads, nor has he ever hate-speeched ANYONE. What you are doing is slander and that is a horrific sin. You would rather focus on Pastor Winger's imaginary sin of hate-speech than acknowledge Joseph Smith's real live blasphemy against Jesus.

[@KingPoseidon02]

@@UrsahSolar no the ones doing the slandering are you and your false teacher, Mike Winegar. Can Mike Winegar draw his Priesthood Authority back to any apostle or to more directly, Peter, James, and John? If the answer is no, then your false prophet, never had the Spirit to begin with.

[@williamschlosser77]

5 minutes in and you still haven't said anything.

[@andrewunthank3521]

Nothing like leaving criticism on a 6 year old video is there

[@Jay123hollis]

I am more towards the theory that the apostle Paul had a wife that got killed because of his faith and she became a Christian also.

[@RUT812]

Where did that idea come from?

[@Jay123hollis]

@@RUT812 it is a theory that some people have because some people say there is evidence that the Apostle Paul was going to join the Sanhedrin before his conversion and to join the Sanhedrin a man was required to be married. But the Bible nowhere says that it is just a theory the Bible doesn't even say he was married or trying to join the Sanhedrin before his conversion.

[@kevinschaefer3945]

"Smith"? I thought it was "Rosenburg".

[@penguinman9837]

29:26 That's an interesting theory, but it says 'the sticks on which you write' which leans towards our interpretation that they are indeed scrolls or books, not literal sticks (You didn't make the case for literal sticks, but you also didn't mention that sticks meant scrolls so I thought I'd clarify). It then talks about the gathering of Israel from the various parts of the world where they were hidden and the sticks would be reunited. The Book of Mormon claims to be from the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh, recovered as part of the modern day gathering of Israel. Do you happen know of a book of the Lost Tribes other than the Book of Mormon? Or a book from the North Israel as you claim? The Bible OT came from the Jews e.g. Judah/Benjamin so if the Book of Mormon didn't fulfill that prophecy, what did? Or is it unfulfilled? Every jot and tittle will be fulfilled I'm sure you very well know so it must be one or the other. (And the Dead Sea Scrolls don't count since those are part of the Bible) The latter part of the prophecy refers to the Jews (who are still the covenant people of God) and the Christians (composed of the gentiles and gathered lost tribes) will eventually join into a single church ruled by that Great King Jesus Christ. That hasn't happened yet obviously. We know that this wasn't the reunion of Israel and Judah into a happy whole, since that never happened.

[@paulgregersen3570]

The words of Isaiah 29 are being completely ignored by millions also. Isaiah prophecies of a Book that comes from the ground to open the eyes of the spiritually blind by teaching them pure doctrine. Isaiah clearly says this 2nd book of scripture is given to an unlearned man to fulfill God's work a marvelous work and a wonderful. Not the Bible! If you ever seen the jedi mind trick "nothing to see here move along" here is God's promise to bring his word being totally ignored right in a million peoples Bible as if it doesn't exist. The verse even says they are blind to it.

[@binren3984]

@@paulgregersen3570 Isaiah 29 has nothing to do with BoM and everything to do with Jerusalem That is why no one pays attention to your off the wall conspiracy theory. It's the same thing in Ezekiel those sticks represenred Israel and Judah, Kingdoms not books This kind of misinterpretation is an an anthama to what the scripture is talking about. Peace

[@paulgregersen3570]

@@binren3984 Wouldn't say that no one pays attention. Tens of thousands all post. Many favorably contacting me to ask questions about the Church. Yes, it is all about Israel and specific kingdoms. Josephs birthright tribe literally holds the birthright for gathering Israel today. If you look carefully at verse one inn Isaiah 29, you will notice that he clearly refers you to Ariel. That is the old testiment name for the old Jurusalem of old Israel. If you notice he carefully clarifies that he is literally speaking of another place where he says it is "LIKE Ariel." But obviously not the same Ariel in Jurusalem. But like unto it! Nobody would describe that one and only City of New York as being just like the very same New York city in same duality. One might refer to another big city however, not in New York city. Perhaps being just like New York or similar in some way. Obviously in a totally different place however. Isaiah describes this other like locality as body of like Isrealites who are being surrounded on a mountain ( Hill Camorah) and clearly are being brought down or destroyed. Then these people who were brought down, now dead and gone. Somehow Speak from the ground "out of the dust." The only way a dead ancient people could speak words from the ground is a book coming out of the ground. From out of the pit just like Joseph when he went down in the pit (ground) and then spoke from the ground unto his wicked brothers above. Then he came out of the pit and saved Israel. Then Isaiah says God brings a book to open the eyes of the spiritually blind. The same book that came from the ground. He even calls this book God's work not man. Imagine that? Darn good evidence if you ask me with far too many coincidences. Unless you just can't care to see it.

[@binren3984]

@@paulgregersen3570 Well , I really feel bad for those souls you're misleading. Isaiah 29. Is centered on Jerusalem people and their spiritual blindness , spiritual drunkenness , spiritual illiteracy They have turned away from the Lord. God is warnig Jerusalem It is also written about what God will do to Jerusalem's enemies Nothing about something that would interrupt the context of Isaiah 29 that has nothing to do with Jerusalem So your wrong and if your preaching that lie that Isaiah 29 has something to do with Smith's made up religion. May the Lord God have mercy on you. Cause when they realize it's not what you taught and it was a lie , they will fall away Your not preaching the gospel Paul. You have to read and understand what Isaiah waa trying to articulate to Israel If you want to believe in Smith's Myth go ahead. But don't testifly falsely about the Holy Bible Your thinking reminds me of The wisdom of men Is the foolishness God Your a good man Paul. But be careful how you tread. Peace

[@paulgregersen3570]

@@binren3984 You seem to want to confine Isaiah to his time alone. Much of his prophecies are latter-day. Did you notice Isaiah projected this book that teaches about another scripture far into the future? Notice the first few verses again where he instructs future prophecy by "adding year to year." That's future tense! Another time and place "AS Ariel" but clearly not old Ariel. You want to confine me to Isaiah's present time. Look at verses 11 through 22. God specifically times the coming forth of the book to specifically open the eyes of blind believers The unlearned man appears at a time a little while before Lebenon again becomes a frutfull field. It was a desert for over a thousand years. It was a total waistland until 1948 when America gave them irrigation tecnology to replant the forests of Lebenon. We are talking about just a little while earlier when the sealed book shows up in 1827. Not the Bible! This is modern times not Isaiah's day.

[@RandallLind]

I use Logos and took notes. Lost me when you started talking Mormon. I am going to do a video a night. Every time I start a Roman study I never actually finish. LOL I am going to this time.

[@KnuttyEntertainment]

You lied about Isaiah 29. The Joseph Smith Translation does not correspond to verses 20-22, it corresponds to 11-14, which are almost identical. I'm disappointed in you. I'm a fan of yours, so I know you're a good person at heart. And yet you have either held your mormon brothers and sisters in such low esteem that you have not even read the whole chapter in an effort to understand them, and instead hold them in contempt as the Jews regarded the Samaritans. Either this, or have deceived your audience, and thought it righteous to lie that you might catch others in a lie, just as the Pharisees tried to catch Jesus in his words. That prophecy was fulfilled by the way. During the translation project of the book of mormon, they copied characters off of the gold plates, and gave them to an Egyptologist to read. After explaining the situation to him, he replied, "I can't read a sealed book." (because the bottom portion of the gold plates are sealed, glued together.) The two sticks in the prophecy of the northern and southern kingdoms are the records of the kingdoms. A scroll has a stick in the center to wrap the paper around. Because why would you write on twigs? How and why would two twigs become one in your hand? But the two records shall create one narrative. For is it not said that "in the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established?" And in that day that the records, which were separated from each other, shall be reunited, then shall Israel be gathered, and the nations shall become one nation. You said you wanted a prophecy of Joseph Smith that hypes him up the same way the coming of the Messiah was foretold, this I shall give you. The four craftsmen are a group of figures that were foretold. Among them are Messiah Ben David (Christ, lit. Messiah son of David), Elijah (who shall come to herald the way of the Messiah Ben David), and Messiah Ben Joseph, literally Messiah son of Joseph. For "his shall be called Joseph, and it shall be after the name of his father." And the Messiah Ben Joseph was prophesied to prepare the way for when the Messiah Ben David would come to reign in power and great glory, similar to Elijah. And he would restore that which is lost, and fight against the forces of the devil in the last days and will be pierced and die in a tragedy, and he will commence the gathering of Israel. The Messiah Ben Joseph is the one spoken of in John 1:21 when the Pharisees interrogate John the Baptist. They first ask him if he's the Christ (Messiah Ben David) and he says no. Next they ask him if he is Elijah, and he says no. Next they ask, "are you that prophet which we are expecting?" asking if he's the Messiah Ben Joseph. And he answers them and says "No." So if not Joseph Smith, then who is the Messiah Ben Joseph? In the video you said you are not waiting for any prophets, then who is this prophet they are waiting for who has not come, and why are you not waiting for them?