Jet Powered Tank Destroyer, the Aureole | Fake Tank Friday

Today we travel back into the world of Panzer Front to look at another wacky vehicle. Last time we looked at the E-79 which is a somewhat more conventional vehicle. This is far from the case with the Aureole which is powered by two jet engines.
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[@ConeOfArc]

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[@isaacorr3180]

I would love to see you cover the baneblade from wh40k in this series at some point

[@yi_hou3092]

Hey Cone, I'm a big fan of the Fake Tank Series, and I was wondering if you could cover the Type 61 MBT from Mobile Suit Gundam, the tank not only has some actual MBT traits but it's very unique for an MBT to have Two Guns with a Caliber of 155mm Each plus a 3 man crew

[@pota4144]

The 75mm version is in the game, you have to go to the extra mission and replace a tank with it. The 75mm version has the 75mm StuK37 L/24 cannon and is painted dark yellow with full skirts. Also the E-79 has an early war version too. Panzer Front has a number of interesting extra missions including M1A1s vs T-80s

[@hansreiner1637]

There's also Type 90 versus T-80 in the Panzer Front Bis

[@Ardith_Prime]

I loved this game as growing up, and the Aureole was one of my favourites, along with the Shortbull

[@dimasthefox9410]

​@@hansreiner1637weird i don't find it on my game

[@user-sg9ql8nk1u]

huh m1a1 vs t80s? a game from 1999? man wish i was able to try the game out

[@MK3-C]

​@@user-sg9ql8nk1u pov: theres a game for roms to play on mobile But it needs emulator so search it yaself

[@VladiSSius]

Ahhh... Panzer Front, the grandfather of all tanks game :3 Wasted sooo many hours on the series. I still pray that someday they made an online version of it. It'll be wild!!

[@TheThimape]

Yeah, great game!

[@Cythil]

I wonder what Battlezone is then...

[@ChopperMeir]

Such a great game

[@teslashark]

To make Panzer Front, Bandai bought a lot of German historical footage including some very rare Jagdtiger ones

[@DISTurbedwaffle918]

My first tank game was "Seek and Destroy" Unironically my favorite game on PS2, only in competition with Battlefront II.

[@unsuisseegare1291]

that would be a funny scale model idea, using parts from a jagdpanther, panzer IV and ME 262

[@maverickf1426]

put a wirbelboy turret on the top and a few flamethrowers on the side XD

[@Abeardeen]

​@@maverickf1426 that's some 40K levels of modification right there

[@kooshi8933]

It looks like a squashed up Jagdpanther

[@DISTurbedwaffle918]

Kitbash it and then loot it to use in a WH40k Ork army, it'll fit right in.

[@kulmabricks]

”It Could only exist in a video game” Edit: I have never goten over 14 likes now I have 228 Thanks!

[@lightbluewaves5526]

I can see this happening in WOT

[@bellum_7997]

​@@lightbluewaves5526 stop please... i had enough bz 176

[@Jadg.pz.kpfw.CC64-2M-Jumbo]

Get the sheet metal, we are building this

[@YuriZhevnev]

Meanwhile modeling community: "reality can be whatever I want. *Proceed to make a false history* "

[@austinwhite3132]

Uhm seems like you people have forgotten that the Germans were developing turbine whines during world war 2 which if perfected would of been a very real what if

[@anzaca1]

0:45 If I remember correctly, this machine was built to help fight oil fires. The jet engines allow it to spray water from very far away.

[@richardbell7678]

It might be used to help fight oil fires, but it was built to power wash buttoned up military vehicles to remove any trace of persistent chemical weapons, so the crews can safely exit them. Alternately, it can power wash a flight line of aircraft caught on the ground by persistent chemical weapons. Its first purpose was mass decontamination It is the ultimate, self-propelled power washer unit. If I recall correctly, the jet engines are repurposed from MiG-21 Fishbed aircraft

[@arsenalxa4421]

The Big Wind. Hungarians took a T-34 chassis and strapped MiG engines to it.

[@theoheinrich529]

@@arsenalxa4421 Afaik it was used to defrost airport tarmac.

[@Thirdbase9]

At least one from Hungary was used in Kuwait after Saddam Hussein had the oil wells set on fire.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

@@richardbell7678 No idea where you got this idea from, but the tanks shown were pure firefighting vehicles (or better said the "same" vehicle before and after replacing the T34 chassis with a czech made T55 variant and adding the second jet engine) and their construction makes ZERO sense in the context of NBC decontamination as it is designed to spray large amounts of water over an enormous area. Decontamination stations try to keep the contaminated substances under control, not wash them out over squaremiles of uncontrolled countryside.

[@roys.1889]

This tank and panzer front are the reason why I always thought of tanks when they would talk about the areola in biology class

[@Sir_Cactus]

If I understand it correctly, this tank is supposed to be propelled not by a turbine but by the thrust force of the engines. That however causes a huuge problem many other tanks, especially soviet tanks, also had, but far worse: an abysmal reverse speed.

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

Also, neutral stering is literally impossible.

[@jtsg464]

Outside of the jet power, the design is like a Swedish S-Tank, Jagpanzer IV, and Jagpanther all got drunk one night...and this is the result. The low profile may help for ambush and stuff but doesn't seem to have great gun depression. Which, if maybe it could be hidden hull down, just the gun popping out with the sloped back armor/top hull to help deflect rounds, then maybe it'd make some sense as a design. Great vid Cone, love me Fake Tank Fridays and looking at the Panzer Front game.

[@milesipka]

Threesomes in the tank world are some pretty wild stuff... I guess us tank fans would love to see tank p*rn if it ever got launched...

[@jessekairns2714]

another reason why the Aureole some times has 75mm on some post is because the look is similar Sturmgeschütz IV but with a longer rear i think the idea for the Aureole comes from the Sturmgeschütz IV. Thank you for making great videos 👍

[@milesipka]

So what we have here is a Jagdpanther that was told to go on a diet before being sent to modern schooling and told its dreams of identifying as an ME-262 was possible... Crazy concept, at the very least.

[@commandingjudgedredd1841]

My favourite tank in Panzer Front. Could make it up a hill that overlooked the Ludendorf Bridge. Great anti tank sniping podition. (Until the enemy spotted you)

[@kevincostello3856]

Exactly I do same many times. Also at Lundendorf bridge the Aureole just flying across bridge knocking gun at end of bridge and climbing the hill over looking the whole bridge. Gotta be quick and lucky they don't pop ya trying that slow crawl up.

[@kabob0077]

1:55 This is a fine meme... I must add it to my collection...

[@diamondboron9901]

Ah panzer front. I used to play both the standard and the bis version all the time. The 75 version of the Aureole I believe is only accessible in the "Tactics" mode from the main menu. Not all scenarios has it tho so some searching might be needed.

[@szymonchlebicki4606]

2:40 i somewhat recall the tank being listed as an Aureole/75 during the first normandy missions, might be that

[@roys.1889]

I remember that the 75mm version is available on the _early war_ variant of the Aureole. ...why a jet powered Jagdpanther existed in 1941 is a question for someone smarter than me to answer.

[@Botticitar]

The ones with the jet engines on top are firefighting vehicles, they used MIG-15 (and later I think 21) derived jets to blow out fires, mainly oil fires. At least one Hungarian example took part in fighting the oil well fires in Kuwait for example.

[@admiraltiberius1989]

Ok so that name is so close to inappropriate it's laughable. Secondly I'm imagining a Hellcat with a rocket engine and how it'd blast around the battlefield till it fell apart from the stress of it all.

[@EnRandomSten]

this kinda looks like something a person who got has no knowledge of tanks would imagine the strv 103 to be if it was described to them. "It's a very short, highly angled front hull with no turret and a large main caliber gun mounted in the front. The tank is surprisingly nimble and fast due to it's short track length. further more, it was the worlds first tank using a jet turbine to be issued to a military."

[@Jont12gte]

This reminds me of the BMW GT 101/102/103 project that the germans were supposedly developing during the war. From what I remember reading, it was a gas turbine turboshaft engine based on the BMW 003 and supposed to be mounted into a Panther. Figured I'd maybe bring this topic up for further discussion 07

[@CoreMaster111]

Also plans were made to fit it into Tiger II aswell. There are even some original blueprints out there.

[@Attaxalotl]

I'd love to see a video about the Hungarian "Big Wind"

[@nizalmuhammad9689]

I hope next is shortbull tank. One of fake tank in panzer front

[@MerkeligStrormride]

Suggestion: With Advance Wars Reboot Camp being recently released, why not do an episode on the tanks in the Advance Wars series?

[@onlyarandomusername]

you can play this as a mod in steel fury kharkov 1942. the mod is called Japanese Community Mod (JCM). you'll be able to operate both the 88 bersion and the stubby 75 too. and I gotta say, this thing got torque

[@excalibur2685]

3:31 me and my platoon mates for no reason:

[@avanti9034]

It would be cool to see your thoughts about the Edelweiss from Valkyria Chronicles.

[@TonboIV]

4:15 "That really wouldn't be practical, especially during WW2, especially for the Germans." So kind of like the V2, or the Maus (or the Ratte) or Schwerer Gustav or the Natter or the Amerika Bomber or...

[@russiangoose7053]

Even as a kid playing this game I knew this was an absurd tank but I still loved it just because it's so unreal. I still play panzer front to this day, it's such a fun game

[@DISTurbedwaffle918]

It's like playing Seek and Destroy, flying a Maus through the air on angel wings while firing nuclear warheads

[@russiangoose7053]

@@DISTurbedwaffle918 exactly 😂

[@kevincostello3856]

Myself also, my brother bought this game for myself back in 2001 I think and yes I still play "Panzer Front" often.

[@theislanddweller1335]

Do shortbull next, it was my favorite; it has got to be the most "realistic" fake tanks in Panzer front; T95 with a turret and T29's T5 gun

[@leopard1419]

I agree

[@aQuestionator]

Can't wait to see this in World of Tanks as a tier 8 premium!

[@MCPTr10Cze]

Just saw the new movie "Sisu". They tried to mask a T 55 as a jagdpanzer. Made me wonder if there'll be more cursed movie tanks videos.

[@dse763]

For those interested by the Panzer Front part, good news : there's an English translation of the slightly superior Dreamcast port of the game.

[@dimasakbar7668]

I seem to remember this tank from a WW2 themed Japanese game in PSX where we can command many tanks, from Sherman, T34, Cromwell, etc. Edit: wow you actually mention the game! Thanks

[@Sniper65615]

Tbh even if we putted an Jet engine on a Hellcat it would most likely run out of fuel before it could completly stop. (But dont get the names mixed up betwen a M18 Hellcat and F6F "Hellcat" bc i mean the tank variant not the aircraft variant.)

[@_gungrave_6802]

Aureole looks like a flattened Jagdpanther but with a longer and much THICCER hull.

[@CharcharoExplorer]

I hope to see the War Front TUrning Point fake tanks soon! The Sonic Tank/ Ice Spitter

[@andreww2098]

the rocket boosters were dropped because they were a fire risk in forested regions, and also you couldn't steer the tank when using them, and they tended to damage the transmission

[@Wolfe_Blue]

Awesome

[@CreeperOnYourHouse]

There were a few version of the panther tank where the engine was replaced with a turbochaft, so it's not entirely infeasible.

[@scpfoundation7191]

I mean, i won't lie, the Aureole looked like as if the germans obtained some french engineers that used the WW1 french tank design and gave the germans the WW2 equivalent of said tank, i mean look how it looks like, so thats my little theory to why it's named like that.

[@mathieugariepy2948]

Great video!

[@JohnJBrowne11209]

Love the Battle of the Bulge background music

[@kevincostello3856]

Yeah the " 75" , I have an very early version of panzerfront, 2001. Playing the Germans the 75 is offered in battles : Hill 220.5 , Swch.Oktjabrskij , Sinyavino , Vitebsk , Also offered on some USA and Russian battles if one choses to " custom" or switch out tanks . Been playing this old game since 2001. Still fun.

[@edi9892]

With a regular engine, this could be a pretty decent tank destroyer. Good gun, good frontal armour, absurdly sloped, and low/small profile.

[@briansanchez9899]

That thing would make an awesome hot wheels car

[@ErwinHistory]

World's happiest tank destoryer (it has zero depression)

[@lucasrodillo6739]

Panzer Front was an amazing tank sim. Yes. Tank sim. Fight me.

[@milesipka]

No need for a fight... Fancy a 🍺?

[@skygo_1]

Looks like a stretched Jagdpanther

[@mikewilson858]

Graphics will never get better than this

[@adammandic4229]

i remember playing this when i was a kid, good times. one of the best tank games ever.

[@VenerhiaStellarvore]

tracks are made to be slower than any other movement method on purpose, the force required (and overall additioned fricton) to make the tracks spin just by pushing the tank externally is far greater than on wheels or anything that glides like planes, boats of skis in snow. all of that "resistance" would just send all that equivalent thrust backwards instead of pushing the tank forward. Im not even talking of tracks not being able to reach speeds jet turbines excel at. TLDR: tracks are made to be driven through rotation not through translation and external hull push and they cant go fast enough without wearing down so much.

[@thoughtfox2409]

Now, i only have very limited info on the tank mounted versions of the turbine extinguishers, but there are also several on a truck chassis, but most just with strong fans instead of jet-turbines. They are used to extinguish large industrial fires and fires in chemical plants, to bind dangerous gases and fumes, and (in the version that don't have the turbine) to evacuate smoke from tunnel fires. The first one you showed (Hurricane) is not even soviet, but from the FRG built on a leftover T55-A from the NVA. It was built to help extinguish the oilfires in Kuwait, but never used. the most common version is probably the LUF 60, but there are also many other versions. I think they are most common here in germany, at least i have never seen a firetruck-producer outside of the german companies build them.

[@angledsuccess3354]

Literally a hybrid between an Abrams, jgdpanther, and strv 103

[@wyverncoch4430]

One of the big questions of a jet engine tank with big thrusters at the back, pushing forward, is how the heck would it reverse? Especially in ww2 if it's using bmw jumo engines with no reverse thrust.

[@Blody1337]

Aureole looks like a squashed Jagdpanther.

[@silentsoundwave9415]

Awesome as always! Out of curiosity, have you ever considered doing a "good, bad, and ugly" of early amphibious armor types? I can't imagine that was a smooth development process.

[@trainnerd3029]

This guy is a “tank nerd” and this channel is awesome!!

[@johnanon6938]

For anyone wanting to know more about the tank with 2 jet engines as a turret its the Hungarian big wind or just search youtube for: How Jet Engines on Tanks Put out Oil Fires And it was also used in 1991 to put out the oil well fires in Kuwait. The 1 jet engine versions with either a tank or flatbed truck was developed by the soviet union to also fight oil well fires long before 1991.

[@Coolcleverstone]

Oh boy, it's the Shagohod!

[@mark009vn]

This tank reminds me of mobile suit gundam where in the antagonist would churn out extremely impractical (even by the show's standard) one off designs every other episode only for them to get unceremoniously blown up by the main character at the end of said episode.

[@masterb2130]

Can't wait to see this bad boy in world of tanks.

[@AXIvan000]

man panzer front gave me the nostalgia

[@Soviet20]

Hope your review the other designs, this game gave me hours of entertainment heck even got me interested in game making and tank simulators, even if they're fake, it was fun to play... but hard as nails.

[@ethancarroll7027]

I imagine it would be similar to the Abrams in terms of how loud the engine would be, which considering this would be a tank destroyer and would more than likely be used a flanking/ ambush vehicle it would probably not be ideal since being loud isn't ideal if you want to be sneaky. On top of that, it looks incredibly vulnerable to infantry attacks considering there's no front mounted machine gun port

[@firestorm208]

Fun fact! The Abrams tends to be loud up close but quieter from further away. The high pitched whine of the turbine can't travel as far as the deep beats of a high horsepower conventional diesel engines. Source: My experience working on the M1A2 Abrams back in the day.

[@syahareensharani6869]

Boy I can feel Wargaming gonna steal that concept making a new premium tanks ....

[@mrjockt]

They already did, the new Chinese premium heavy tank has rocket boost assistance for quick acceleration.

[@I_am_looking_for_GF]

Jet and rocket engines are very diferent and the names can/should not be used interchangeably, since rockets only produce thrust and no rotational force it wouldn't work as a tank engine (thought u showed a good way to use them as an auxiliary engine)

[@mhplayer]

Im curious: how can jet engines provide any kind of steering aside from using it the same way we use tracks? (Aka push on one side of the tank)

[@I_am_looking_for_GF]

@@mhplayer jet engines in tanks work just like regular engines, just with a higher rpm wich the transmission is made to be able do deal with it, the rest of the basic mechanism is basicly the same

[@I_am_looking_for_GF]

God that was a terrible way to phrase that

[@mhplayer]

@@I_am_looking_for_GF oh so it isn't propelling the tank by expelling gases out, and i guess this would be a rocket engine then. But are helicopters rocket propelled then? (I know they have a jet engine or some kind of turbine that helps them go forward)

[@I_am_looking_for_GF]

@@mhplayer helis have a jet engine, there is a chaft that conects from the engine to the blades, the gas expelled might help pushing it forward but its not the main way to make it move, same for the tanks

[@cpt.mystic_stirling]

We need more of those panzer front tanks xD

[@hyenalingo]

it sounds like they heard of a Swedish "jet powered cheese wedge" and went off that

[@Valivali94]

"Wouldn´t be practical" didn´t really stop WW2 german tank designers though.

[@winkelvonhutten2033]

I still playing Panzer Front with my emulator in my phone, and yes Aureole is Wild AF 🔥, very very quick and hard hitting, the 88mm L100 version can obliterate any kind of enemies from long range as long you hit the side of enemy tanks, the 75mm ones was playable on earlier german war missions between 1940-1942, but only having 75mm StuK L37 is very useless tbh.

[@cheeseboi1592]

Hey,Can you check out fake tanks from valkyria chronicles series? they have pretty interesting ones like the edelwise witch is pretty much what happend if a sherman and a panther had a baby

[@facenoise465]

Time to make this in Sprocket

[@felixfeder7106]

Arc, I'd like for you to do something like this but for the tanks of Foxhole, I think that'd be cool as the designs are surprisingly good

[@michaelnguyen6730]

The only tank in the world that is powered by an aviation turbine is the United States' M1A2 Abrams tank.

[@stutterpunk9573]

I think American tank development would consider Chryslers extremely reliable multi fuel car turbine engine. Maybe a bigger version

[@akicirenunez7651]

It kinda looks like a flatten jpanther with jet engines💀

[@drydogg]

Anyone remember when the US government tested a one-man jet pack? I think it got shown in James Bond movie. It had a ridiculously short and useless fuel supply.

[@LarySeeAircraft]

The Sk60B is good for this as it has reverse thrust

[@demiller74]

M3 Lee is the most absurd tank destroyer in my opinion…. I know it’s a medium tank, but it could have been so much more with a bigger gun.

[@herbertkeithmiller]

Ah.. how does it go in reverse? Kind of a pain having to turning your tank around every time you want to back up.

[@vincentrees4970]

My new favourite German tank. Idk how impractical or nonexistent it, hands down the sexiest tank design I've ever seen 👌 Deutsche Qualitat

[@huss4r1864]

When I saw the thumbnail I was like "of course it looks german"

[@watcherzero5256]

The Soviets wernt using it as a method for tank propulsion but as a method of getting unstuck from mud. In essence a post WW2 form of WW1's Fascines.

[@DIREWOLFx75]

Ehm, i've never ever heard the name Aureole, buuuut, it does look a LOT like a theoretical version of the AMX 50 Foch TD, which due to the severe lack of the desired gun was drawn up as an alternative that would use captured German 88L71(IIRC?) guns. From what i read, many years ago, this TD went well beyond the initial concept drawings, but not all the way to full blueprints. The issue with the guns were "solved" when they dropped the initial 90mm gun idea and instead fitted a 100mm gun to the Foch, making this variant instantly obsolete. And while i never saw anything about testing it with any form of jets, the French were very much playing around with a little bit of everything at the time, so it's not out of the question that someone could have drawn up something "outrageous". Might have be zero connection, or it might be the game makers read the same article i did, along with an article about jet/turbine engines in ground vehicles and just fluffed it together as they wanted it according to the rule of cool.

[@stuartp2006]

When I saw the title of this video, I immediately thought "Ah yes, the M1 Abrams". idk

[@thekids6328]

would be perfect in cursed tank simulater

[@kwlkid85]

I'm almost certain it wouldn't move at all.

[@arsenalxa4421]

Yeah, I'm gonna build a rocket boosted assault gun in Crossout, now.

[@jaydenlobbezoo1971]

Did it have powered tracks if not why even have tracks. Also 1 plausible application is is blitz defense ausuming that it could reach a speed that whould seem reasonable with 2 massive jets

[@RomLoneWolf23]

I'd love to see your opinion on the H.I.S.S. Cobra tank from the GI Joe universe.

[@johnanon6938]

imagine overhauling a WW2 German tank's Jet-engines after 25 hours or less!

[@PitFriend1]

Let’s see, turbojet aircraft in WW2 had very short ranges due to fuel consumption, so a much, much heavier vehicle that also has to deal with ground resistance is somehow supposed to be practical?

[@V3RTIGO222]

I think this kind of crosses over into turbine engine terrirory, thinking about it...

[@csanadpaksa]

I have only one thought on these projects. How the hell are they supposed to go BACKWARDS??!!

[@mrjockt]

Im assuming that by “jet powered” it means armoured vehicles propelled directly by the jet thrust and not, as is available with some modern armoured vehicles, having the drive train driven by a gas turbine engine instead of the more traditional diesel. I’m actually surprised at how long it took Wargaming to introduce “rocket propulsion” into World of Tanks, considering their propensity for taking ideas that were ill conceived or just plain ridiculous and shoe horning them into the game.

[@engineermerasmus2810]

"Soviet jet tanks" *Shows a picture of a Hungarian heavy firefighter vehicle*

[@Koemi405]

Can you explain the 2b1 oka???

[@CH3TN1K313]

@ 2:30 you're completely wrong about the "anti-tank rifle plates" offering "limited protection due to the extreme spacing". In spaced armor, the biggest factor to determining efficiency is how large of a gap you can get between the plates. The bigger the gap, the more space and time you provide the projectile to tumble and deviate from its initial trajectory, striking the main armor at an oblique angle, which is the sole purpose of spaced armor in terms of defeating kinetic projectiles. In essence, there is no negative to having a bigger gap, only a smaller gap.

[@ConeOfArc]

I wasn't referring to the spacing from the side of the hull I'm talking about the giant portion of the side armor left exposed with no plate

[@CH3TN1K313]

@@ConeOfArc appreciate the clarification cause in the video, to me, it sounded like that you were taking about the spacing and not the coverage.

[@joshephlark2733]

Looks very much like a Jagdpanther yet use the gun mantle of a Jagdtiger, as least one thing is sure, you cannot fire the Aureole on the move.

[@derrickbiedermann9802]

I have a request if you don't mind. There is a Russian tank program I have seen on the internet called Teletanks, ehich were apparently fully radio controled T-26 tanks, with articles on Wikipedia and even Popular Science, yet the only evidence I personally could find presented for these was a single picture of a T-26 flame tank with an extra radio antenna, and a network of broken links, unreliable blogs, and tangentially related projects. To me it seems reasonable that such a tank project existed, but I haven't been able to find anything to confirm it myself. Additionally, according to the Wiki article and a few other blog style articles, the tanks weren't super reliable and rather expensive, so it could fall into the cursed by design or fake tank series, depending on if it actually existed or not, or if it is just another example of a game of internet telephone.

[@DaCouchWarrior]

2:00 lol ukrainian kontakt-1 meme. Love it.