SEADOO SWITCH DRAG RACE | 21' 230hp vs 18' 170hp

Description: Come along with us as we show you a few key differences between SeaDoo Switch models and see for yourself which one wins the drag race, top speed test and turning test, plus stick around to the end for commentary with Will Owen and guest Capt. Steve Daggett
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[@swfriis]

2024 seadoo switch limited looks good, wished they put the 325 ace Rotax in the 21 foot. It really does need the higher HP with the bigger size an additional person capacity

[@thewinthrops]

Great video ! Can't wait to see more switch vids

[@Viper266264]

Would love to see this same test but the 21` boat and the 170 vs. the 230 hp engine to see exactly what we gain by going up an engine with the same hull.

[@ravenragnar]

More Switch videos my dude. Nice work!

[@Omegafaction]

This is what I have been wanting to see for my decision on sizing and power. Great work.

[@JetBoatPilot]

Good! Glad this helped!

[@alowarrior]

Your comments about turning differences port to starboard are correct but i have found that adjusting the vts greatly affects turning to port. With vts set to lowest position it is possible to get the hull to bite more allowing for a tighter turn but no where near the crisp hard over to starboard.

[@coldfire2812]

We have a 18-230, with 4 people, were able to get up to 43 MPH

[@swfriis]

Thank You for doing this video! Noticed you have the premium audio on the 18 but not the 21, do you feel the helm speakers improved on your 21 foot vs the 18?

[@JetBoatPilot]

Nope, factory stereo socks! But the JL is way overpriced so we did not add it on the 21. I want to test the ExoGear system. I hear it's priced right and sounds great!

[@jonathanburnham627]

Love your videos. What are your feelings on devices to flash the ECU for increased hp from companies like Aftermarket Assassins?

[@JetBoatPilot]

I'm sure they help but they void your factory warranty so we've shy'd away from recommending them

[@billowens6109]

Really appreciate the Switch videos. We've had our 18-230 Cruise about a month now. The info you provide is super helpful. Btw we love the bumpers! Could use your input on mounting a transducer though. I plan to mount on the starboard toon but not sure whether to screw directly into the polytec or adhere a plate. Thoughts? Thx.

[@JetBoatPilot]

We have nor installed a transducer yet but I hear that several have. I'd probably go for 3M 5200 and a plate if I were you, that way you don't punch a hole in the boat.

[@billowens6109]

@@JetBoatPilot thanks for the input. I prefer that as well, just wasn't sure about adhesion to the polytec material. Don't want anything falling off back there ;-)

[@alowarrior]

Go with the garmin transducer offered through sea doo. It is internally mounted in the engine compartment. It utilizes a thin layer of coolant on the mounting plate that allows it to work through the hull without any holes created. I have had it in my 21' 230hp for two seasons now with no problems.

[@billowens6109]

Thx. For the note. I already took Will's advice and adhered a piece of HDPE to the toon with 5200 and mounted the Garmin GT54 transducer. Seems to be holding. We'll find out how well it works shortly.

[@newbie_nugs]

Do you have a video on the trim settings? Of the switch? Like when to adjust Compared to the water or speed that you're doing

[@JetBoatPilot]

We do not. We typically keep the trim set to up all the time for best speed and dry ride

[@CDB1952]

The solo pilot drag racing is interesting, but comes up short in depicting real world applications. Would love to see some performance vs gross weight vs load distribution runs for various models.

[@LifeBeginsOnTheWater]

Great content, I was wondering for either 18’ & 21’ loaded (8-10 passengers) with gear for a day outing what MPH loss would you see? Thanks for sharing Billy D

[@JetBoatPilot]

Definitely slows them down. With a full boat my 21 footer with the 230hp engine struggled to get to 32 mph

[@LifeBeginsOnTheWater]

@@JetBoatPilot Thanks for the info! Keep the great content coming. Truly enjoy watching.

[@JetBoatPilot]

@LifeBeginsOnTheWater will do and Thanks!!

[@TheTracker12]

Can the 18’ 170hp pull skis?

[@jesseo355]

Looked at the little 13 ft rig as a secondary family boat. Any thoughts on that model ?

[@JetBoatPilot]

I have not been on one. I think they only seat 4 people. I hear they're the most fun of all the switch models.

[@jonathancortez8638]

More switch videos!! Maybe a video on the minor differences between the 22 23 and 24 models would be so helpful!

[@JetBoatPilot]

We have a 2024 21 limited on the way

[@tarmacsurfer101]

Awesome video! I'm planning on getting one next summer and have been trying to figure out what size and trim to get. This made it clear 18' with the 230hp engine! Ty 4 the vid and stay safe with Hurricane Idalia on it's way!

[@JetBoatPilot]

Yeah, that 18 with the 230 would be a blast! Thanks! So far we're looking like we're going to dodge this one.

[@Dchiossone]

Since you have tried both 21 and 18 ft. Does it make a huge safety difference between the two sizes in case of a occasional choppy water? In your opinion what's the best switch setup ratio for 1. Safety, 2. Engine power for a family boat? I have 3 little boys. Thanks.

[@JetBoatPilot]

I think both are safe. The best for me would be the 18 Cruise with the 230hp engine. It's the best combination of fun and roomy.

[@dmaddc]

Fun!!!

[@deeznutzz4166]

I have the 2022 Switch Cruise 21 footer with 230hp supercharged motor and i got it up to 54 mph on the lake this past weekend with 5 adults on it!!! I luv it 💯

[@JetBoatPilot]

Whoa, that's a first! You sure that's not KPH?

[@deeznutzz4166]

@JetBoatPilot NO sir...it's mph and she has just over 20 hours on her. Still haven't done the first maintenance work on her yet.

[@JetBoatPilot]

@deeznutzz4166 that's wild! Never seen that before.

[@richardcarroll2500]

Don't these boats have to come out of the water when not in use? I have a slip, but no lift.

[@JasonSnyder-rs3ex]

Great video, thank you! Question about choppy waters. A rule of thumb is the bigger the boat, the better it handles rough waters. How noticeable is the choppy water ride comfort between the 18' and 21' Switch?

[@JetBoatPilot]

Both boats handled much better in the chop than traditional v shaped hulls we've driven. We were surprised at the ride to be honest. The 21 does ride better but not so much better that I'd make my decision on that fact alone. Both felt sure footed and smooth in average bay chop here in Panama City.

[@briancordell8623]

Great video!!! I have a 21 foot 230hp. What RPM was the 21' getting? We are only seeing 7700 to 7800 rpm and about 37 to 38 mph, with 42 hours on the boat. Thanks for all the great information you share on here! As new boat owners you have helped greatly!

[@JetBoatPilot]

We're seeing about 7800 on ours as well. I think its going to eventually do 40 mph when its more broken in. These engines do better with more time on them.

[@briancordell8623]

@JetBoatPilot Thanks for getting back with me! I've had it to 39 with just me on it and it was taching 7800. So I just need to figure out how to get that extra 200 rpm and I think we'll be good I'm considering a "Hookup kit from Leading Edge Impellers, but I haven't pulled the trigger yet. Hey, that would make an awesome video to compare stock to their kit! Just a suggestion. Lol. Thanks for all the great content on your channel! It's been a great resource!

[@JetBoatPilot]

@@briancordell8623 excellent let us know if you make the upgrade and if it was worth it

[@rashick11]

I have a few videos posted with our 21/230 hitting 42@8000 rpm. Look them up. The turning issue is real.

[@122276mjs]

The real question is when is a 310hp boat coming?

[@JetBoatPilot]

For real! I want to see a twin engine 325 next!!

[@daxzus971]

Hopefully this Spring my wife will let me get one. Speaking of which, can you make a video of how to add a head to the boat? 😊

[@JetBoatPilot]

Good luck! Not sure we'll be adding a head to the switch....lol

[@daxzus971]

@@JetBoatPilot I have a lot of girls so really need to add one and figure out how to do it. I did see one video on it but it wasn't as descriptive as I would like.

[@jayd1008]

i cannot wait for you to do this with the new 24 yamahas 1.9s ... drag the 252 s !

[@JetBoatPilot]

That would be fun

[@sharonbraselton4302]

buy yamaha 252

[@user-vl9qr9rv6e]

I was looking ad a 13' compact but there is a place selling a 18' with a 230hp for just 2 grand more. I'm assuming the 18 with the 230 would roll.

[@JetBoatPilot]

Yes that is the one I'd buy if doing it all over again.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

whaler 18 rabfe fudd v8 285 hp jet 45 m0h

[@rockyman9989]

Love your video, Unfortunately, My 2023 18' sea doo switch flooded with 1' of water inside, Because I kept both water plugs closed, now it won't start, Can you tell me what should I do first to minimize my damage? Thank you.

[@JetBoatPilot]

1 inch is not bad. Just drain the water out and make sure no water got into the air filter before you start the engine.

[@rockyman9989]

@@JetBoatPilot Thank you !

[@JetBoatPilot]

@@rockyman9989 You're welcome!

[@shaunjones7272]

We have a 21 230 cruise, if i did it again i would get the 18 230. There rarely more than 2 of us on the boat. And we have had 9 people on the boat, it was pretty slow.

[@JetBoatPilot]

I agree, the sweet spot seems to be the 18 with the 230 hp option.

[@joeydupuis4484]

Has anyone shown how the 21-foot Switch handles the surf boat waves versus a high quality tri-toon?

[@JetBoatPilot]

I have not seen one but I can tell you that at lower speeds the outer pontoons on the Switch take on some water to give the boat more weight and stability in the rough. This makes the boat handle rough stuff better than other jets I''ve been on. You'll feel less of the pounding impact force on the Switch than other jets. I have not compared to a high end pontoon though.

[@Def1antone]

when I was first looking at the 13 ft switch, the dealer was putting a swim platform on it. was told the rear of the boat is the same for all three seizes. sea-doo says they don't make it for the 13 (on their website). I did some research on it and was told if the boat is over 13ft, it has to have a catalytic converter on it. the swim platform adds about 2 feet making it non-compliant with EPA laws. another dealer told me they do not install them on the compact sport because it could flip the boat over upon rear boarding (not buying that). I want to put one on mine just to keep swimmers from stepping on the jet drive trying to get in the boat, there is always that one person who doesn't listen to you or doesn't care.

[@JetBoatPilot]

It will bolt on and if you have the boat on the trailer the boat could tip if you step on the swim platform. If you do add it, just add some braces and position them aft of the trailer wheels when boarding so you don't tip. Some use jack stands.

[@codyblackburn7159]

Just got my 2023 21ft 230HP. 4 adults and 2 kids on board during 1st time in the water. Boat barely got to 23 mph. That makes me nervous. Any suggestions?

[@JetBoatPilot]

You're in break in cycle, it will get faster after 10 hours

[@trevorlance5372]

I’d love to see a top speed run with max passenger capacity on one or both. It’s not like you’re trying to set records in these boats but I’m really curious to see what those motors can handle under weight!

[@rashick11]

36 mph with 11 people age from 1-93 years old on a 21/230. Hope that helps.

[@TheECICK]

was the 18 ft in sport mode?

[@JetBoatPilot]

No, it was not

[@jd-it4on]

Yeah i need twin engines, or at least put the new see doo jet ski engine in it woth 325hp, personally i would get some work on mine ,i think it would need to be around the 350hp mark and top speed of 45 or 55 would be nice. But either way it doesnt seem to jave great power and that was just 1 person on it,when u get 8 more people on it i would imagine it would it getting up to speed really slow and top speed maybe 26-29 . With this price point give us more power please

[@kyle27453]

I have a 13 (compact) you can add a swim deck!!

[@JetBoatPilot]

I think it's possible but not from the factory is what we're told.

[@Formerlywarmer]

I hear the motors last only a couple years and superchargers less in some cases. Any truth to that?

[@JetBoatPilot]

None. In earlier generations the superchargers had to be rebuilt at 200 hours but newer stuff is only an inspection at 200 hours. These motors, especially the 230 and 170 hp versions are SeaDoo work horses. I'd imagine the 300 and new 325 would have less lifespan because they're working harder....but that assumption is not fact. Just my thoughts.

[@Formerlywarmer]

@@JetBoatPilot thanks for the reply. It sounded strange being those are not brand new designs and used a lot. I’m Close to needing one of these crafts.

[@davebracey6729]

Why no love for the compact 13'

[@JetBoatPilot]

We did not have access to one when we filmed this video. We shot what we had on hand. Maybe we'll get our hands on one soon. Thanks for the idea though!

[@dkelley8387]

I have the 170 compact sport. Tops out at about 40MPH and turns on a dime. Great for tubing, but the boat is so small you have to balance boat load or you will not get on plane. 15 hours on my engine did oil change at 10 hours

[@JetBoatPilot]

@@dkelley8387 we cannot wait to play with one of those

[@PrestonGladd]

I guessing you have to use 32 bit float with this guy! 🤣🤣

[@riverakers]

Can you get the 18 with the 230hp?

[@JetBoatPilot]

Yes for sure! Probably the most fun Switch setup!

[@Stpetegal79]

Is the 18 cruise 170 hp fun too?

[@JetBoatPilot]

@Stpetegal79 yes more fun than the 21 230hp in my opinion. More nimble.

[@Stpetegal79]

@@JetBoatPilot do you winterize your switch in FL?

[@JetBoatPilot]

@Stpetegal79 not really, but we do treat the gas and run the engine every month at least once.

[@nomrahc89]

18ft 230 is great.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

whalwr 18 fóuter furd 285 hp jet v 8

[@joeypiraino7039]

I need to see a 13' with a new 300hp in it...

[@richr909]

I would buy one of these if they made a 22 or 23 foot unit with twin 230hp engines, clean out ports, and different color seat/interior options than just Grey.

[@JetBoatPilot]

I guess we'll have to wait and see if Yamaha will make one! I can assure you they've taken notice of SeaDoo's sales.

[@jeffbryner5355]

I would never SWITCH from yamaha to a seadont 😂 pun Intended 😂

[@tomlehecka5164]

Anybody waterski behind one of these?

[@JetBoatPilot]

We have not but I think they will do it just fine.

[@jetjaguar5198]

We’ve pulled a tube no problem. We r in colorado at 5,280 ft have the 18ft 230hp

[@Formerlywarmer]

The bigger one looked nose down at top end. Much more than the smaller one.

[@JetBoatPilot]

They were both trimmed exactly the same

[@zodadotpaul]

The SeaDoo Switch looks like a floating Pack & Play for adults.

[@JetBoatPilot]

I agree its different looking, but honestly I have not had this much fun on a boat maybe ever. They are like riding a PWC but you get to take your whole family along. SO FUN!