Zach Wilson Highlights - Week 15 - Every Pass vs Lions

[@jdubsteachings]

Coming from a lions fan Zack did his job pretty well and had us sweating at the end of the game. Besides the one bone head play the loss ain't on him.

[@swe2680]

Yeah he played okay. Not great, not terrible. The o line lost us this game, and everybody else had a hand in it, including the coach on clock management. Aside, now I can root for the lions in their division. Good luck the rest of the way.

[@ReignRegime]

@@swe2680 OL does suck but Braden Mann is leading the league in returned punts. homie is stealing money lol

[@flammingdragon]

Lol did u see the pick? Wilson did t not play a good game.

[@donaldjeune3031]

Missed some throws he should make but he played OK. Good enough to win. The O line did worse than I initially thought . Zach also seemed to have better footwork on his throws compared to the last game .

[@colexovitch]

Agreed. He made some big throws down the end that put them in the lead and the Defense just killed it with a 51-yard TD pass on 4th an inches.... SMH He did put them in a position to tie the game at the end with that huge throw on 4th and 18. But we can't expect Greg to make every 55= yard kick. it's unreal.

[@meatyclackers3343]

not good enough to win

[@Angela-Lavery]

I think he really has potential. We have to remember that he wasn’t playing with the team for 3 weeks! We REALLY needed Quinnen Williams today. We didn’t get ANY sacks. Goff had so much time to throw the ball. Special teams not good.

[@mcnally145]

I can’t believe how bad the OL is could of seriously injured Mike white because of them, can’t help to make space for bam or MC and can’t protect a lick. Needs massive improvement probably the most in our team.

[@hiesenbergwalt181]

Potential for what ?

[@live2thefullest617]

Lions averaging 27 points per game, defense held them to 13.

[@swe2680]

My issue is that his primary target, Corey Davis, is always out. ZW needs to throw to G Wilson every day, at least an hour, to make him his #1. We can’t rely on Davis being on the field.

[@stephenkapler2299]

after watching this game it is clear that we need to improve the o line drastically in the offseason and move on from MLF. zach and white are both capable of winning games if they are used properly and have time

[@benjamin4849]

BINGO

[@SmooveClipsss]

Zach’s his best on the move. He’s a twitchy athletic explosive qb. Not a great pocket passer at all tho. Much rather start him over white tho. Whites a statue who can’t move and are o line is kinda shit so he’s gonna get flattened.

[@champstar9669]

Great on rollouts. Not the optimal size to play from the pocket. If you're going to draft someone 2nd overall, then you should at least match your offensive scheme to their strengths.

[@davidmatthews5247]

Been saying this all year, zach is 6'2, unless he takes a deep drop, I think he struggles seeing over the top of the line, especially with pressure coming up the middle. In the 2nd half, lions started doing some stunts, and having spy on outside watching rollouts similar to what the Pats did.

[@froofycat]

Only evaluated so far through the first 18 passes, Overall Accuracy about B+, 2.56 seconds release time, Heavy Pressure (a man in his face in the grasp or sacked) 6 times. That's one out of three. Released ball in 2.1 seconds. Accuracy about about a C+. Tried to run as pocket was breaking nobody open once and sacked - good tackle or big play - held the ball about 2.6 seconds before running. Good pressure twice, got rid of the ball in 2.02 seconds, accuracy about A level. Rolled out 3 times, got rid of the ball average of 3.5 seconds, accuracy close to 100 percent, huge plays. From a good pocket 3 times, released ball average 2.75 seconds, accuracy about a B+ 2 big plays and one should have been caught - 2 hands on the ball. I think I'll put unbiased numbers against Mike White anytime. Mike White is average. How many Super Bowls have been won by average QB's. Give this kid time or we will regret it.

[@adambarran]

had a rough patch in the 3rd quarter but came up clutch at the end of both halves.

[@heathhenderson8235]

Good game from 2. Definitely wished he hit some that he missed but the biggest one is the ref missing the DPI at the of the 1H. We get 7 there it’s a different game. Good job Zach. Let’s get back on Thursday.

[@whambam21]

Wouldn’t give up on him

[@JS44444]

I know emotions were hot after losing to the Lions but Wilson had a good game, unless there are some passes not included in here. He’s stepping up with heavy pressure and making passes before getting hit. Yeah, 3-4 passes were sailed over or passed too short. There were also 5 missed PI calls by the refs 🙄, 3 collapsed pockets, 1 horrible read causing a interception and 1 miraculous catch off a tipped pass. Wilson can get/play better but needs in-game play time to iron it out.

[@JS44444]

My biggest take away here is ML needs to play more to Wilson’s strengths or trade him to a team who will. Building up his confidence with his big plays will play dividends in the long run. I think the break was good in fixing, not all but, more of the short passes he was missing previously.

[@AAli220]

He was missing guys wide open

[@jackhumbach9086]

@@AAli220 he also did voodoo magic and saved the game 2 times

[@brycemoton55]

2:09 how do you boo someone who can make this throw

[@SK-rx9ol]

Now we see the Jets fans come out and scapegoat Zach for the loss despite the defense choking and rush game was terrible today

[@SK-rx9ol]

@Random Gamer Yea that’s why I said they choked meaning they failed to stop the Lions by giving a 50 yard touchdown with less to 2 minutes left in the game. That cost them the game

[@odswoo1762]

@@SK-rx9ol you got to score more than 17 holding the lions to 20 is good u can tell from the players facial expressions when Wilson was at qb look at the sidelines they were not confident

[@ohiostin]

They say the Jets actually won, and the NFL is being sued for not "keeping up appearances" in all jurisdictions.

[@plembonicities6263]

You have to put up more than 17 on the Lions. I have nothing against Zach personally and wish him well, but I don't think he is good enough to start in the NFL.

[@ohiostin]

@@plembonicities6263 if you know what to look for (and I have no doubts that you do not from at home on your couch), you can tell that these Jets/Wilson games are a patchwork of plays brought in from different timelines by the Moon people and the parasite, which is why Wilson looks so inconsistent at times.

[@roguenugget242]

I know a lot of people are frustrated with him- but the reality/message I took is that he still has a lot of potential all he needs to do is stop missing the easy throws. He still in his SOPHMORE year. If Mike is fully healthy try and start him on Thursday if not let Zach play his first prime time game!

[@revenant9277]

I agree. His struggles are very real but I think they are also very correctable. The problem is that correcting those flaws takes time, and people are impatient, and as a result irrational.

[@Geeandrezzi]

@@revenant9277 it’s more to it than that. The timeline for “development” got severely pushed forward due to how competitive we look this year. The window for players being cheap is small. You can’t wait on Zach after 2 years and he’s had 8 games to sit due to injury. Have to show some more than he’s shown

[@revenant9277]

@@Geeandrezzi for sure. I'm not saying that they should or shouldn't start Wilson or White going forward. This season is one thing but I'm thinking for the future seasons to come.

[@Geeandrezzi]

@@revenant9277 this situation is exactly why I didn’t want to take Wilson #2 and wanted to trade down. He was not the best choice to take at 2 overall. Wayyy too many questions marks to pick him that high

[@AAli220]

It’s not 2010, most QBs by year 2 are either good or shit

[@thebigmugamba7986]

Played a lot better than I thought. Only a few “bad” throws. The rest were catchable. 57 yard bomb was awesome. The hater narratives are a complete joke and disproven by the tape. He makes some awesome throws literally while the pocket is collapsing on him. Often throws to receiver in stride. The Berrios out was mostly on Berrios. Can’t just keep getting depth. That’s not how the route is supposed to be run. These “open” receivers people claim are not “open.” Learn defense.

[@OutsidetheEchochamber]

💯

[@justjustin1774]

3 bad throws 11 GREAT throws 6 drops in reality he rlly shouldve went 27/35 for probably 400 yards and 3tds drops lead to missed throws🤷‍♂️

[@jerrycurls88]

he missed more than 3 throws. not sure why he cant hit a cross consistently.

[@justjustin1774]

@@jerrycurls88 yes he missed more than 3 but why do we act like hes the only qb who misses throws. he missed 3 badly. simple zach rlly didnt get help from the o line td nor his coaches. if mike white played how zach did today everyone would be nutting and screaming how hes the future smh

[@jerrycurls88]

@@justjustin1774 main issue is ZW processes too slowly and then misses throw. i was rooting like hell for him so we can win. this loss is not entirely on him. he wouldnt be in the top 3 reasons. but reality is his INT turned into the 3 points and we lost by 3. if you can give MW ZW's arm, we would be set at QB for the next 10 years or more.

[@justjustin1774]

@@jerrycurls88 zach wilson just has to be consistent im really thinking its the coaching at this point idk, no qb has rlly looked good white looks good for 1 game and hes mid after that zachs either AWFUL, above average or amazing

[@AlphaDwg]

lol 😂

[@alexanderwicks9211]

Someone’s going to throw a late pick at the jets and they’ll take it, and it’ll be the steal of a lifetime. This kid in the right system will shine

[@MU-nf9tl]

Most important point, ZW had a QBR of 90. Meaning he statistically had a game of positive gameplay. Yes he missed passes, however today he made up for it, he made plays when they were needed. A few boneheaded decisions sprinkled in too, awful pick. But this is the game you wanted to see, it shows progress from last year. The ending is disappointing, but it was a legitimate team loss. You hope the jets make the playoffs, the fundamentals however don’t seem to be there yet. Ride the wave with ZW, fire MLF, make an offense better suited for ZW.

[@wayne2746]

And that’s why I don’t trust QBR. He was mostly awful in the second half. Improvement from his rookie season? Sure. But he still makes the same mistakes. The Lions have the 29th ranked pass defense and he managed to complete an abysmal 51 percent of his passes.

[@joshalpaugh2763]

@@wayne2746 Vikings are like 32nd and u see what mike white did and everyone was loving his performance 🤡🤡

[@benjamin4849]

@@joshalpaugh2763 facts

[@MU-nf9tl]

@@wayne2746 rewatched the game tape, it’s on Wilson for not completing the “layups,” sure. But MLF doesn’t call games to his strengths. The Jets had a ton of success on the deep ball today, yet they put the training wheels back on for most of the second half after the pick. The only time they moved the ball in the fourth is on the deep ball, Wilson makes some boneheaded plays- for sure. But he also oozes with talent, he mixes superstar esque plays -which few can make - with practice squad worthy plays. He’s a unicorn, an incredibly high ceiling and floor. I don’t know what you do with him, I’m still hopeful they can develop him.

[@wayne2746]

@@joshalpaugh2763 I’m not understanding the point of this comment because I didn’t even mention Mike White

[@teamjensen2492]

I’m a casual and he is pretty good

[@Baybay12321]

Saw so many people saying Zach was the reason we lost 😂. Zach was the reason we were even in that game. He did miss a lot of short plays but he made up for them with 20-50 passes

[@stewartmatson3682]

Berrios completely left his BFF hanging on that motion play where Zach was sacked by a free runner that he could have done something to get in his way.

[@dfacedagame]

Give Zach Corey Davis on some of those routes rather than a 4 foot 2 Berrios and Big Q on D, this outcome is different. He played well. Could of hit some easy passes but. The O Line grade was a D+. They were terrible.

[@wrecktangle]

No joke. Why are all the Jets' receivers like 5' 10"?

[@JonJacks]

Love you for this.

[@colexovitch]

That was absolutely 100% a PI on jeff Smith in the endzone before the end of the 1st half. Okudah was all over him! I thought that was a great pass by Zach Wilson that would have been caught if Okudah didn't stop all of Smith's momentum. Zach played ok but he still looks really bad at times. This was a must win game and the Jets couldn't make it happen. This was the same old jets kind of loss we are used too.....

[@Gemini50347]

Zach can be salvage........He just need to work on his people skills..... Everything else is only through playing the game will he develop

[@jayroth9798]

He made some mistakes but he also had some really good throws. His legs literally kept him and the Jets in this game, something White can't do very well

[@jusstnc1759]

I thought he did his job today and put the jets in a position to win… that’s all you can ask for. He’s still a young player but I understand everyone is ready to send him to mars.

[@emmyicon5598]

Zach has talent but jets don’t know how to develop a qb so trade him

[@gitmobob6266]

What I saw were good passes on roll outs and in clean pockets. The bad passes came in the face of pressure which was considerable which is where most QBs struggle. The OL really needs to pick it up and protect better and give the running game a chance.

[@Kickingit06]

4:42 Is it on Zach's fault that the refs aren't calling an obvious PI in the endzone? I see these highlights and see a very good but not full-on developed QB. Jets fans need to stop whining and support their #2 overall pick. Stop buying the hype. Career backup Mike White isn't leading you to the trophy.

[@dsingerful]

Jets had no rush that game. Running backs ran for 38 yards. O-Line allowed 10 QB hits, 4 sacks, and 7 TFLs. Lions had a punt return for a TD in the first quarter. Zach outscored the Lions offense that day and if not for a horrible no-call on a PI of Jeff Smith in the end zone, Jets would have won that game. Yah, I’d say Zach with the handcuffs off gives us a better chance than what is going on here. He had 6 completions over 20 yards and 10 over 15 yards. We need to let him play freaking football. Is he a top 15 QB? No, but is he capable of more than what we saw most of last game? Absolutely!!!

[@dimitrythomas4158]

Wilson wasn’t great. He was very bad for stretches of the game but he was also very good at some points. I guarantee if Mike White played the exact game a huge Segment of Jets fans would be screaming “he did everything he could” and “it’s not his fault the kicker missed”

[@rafsimmz]

People like to ignore the dangerous passes mile white throws. I don’t mind them with Wilson or White. Let it rip , but be smart in situational times . Difference is Zach gets shit on if he makes a dangerous throw and White doesn’t .

[@swe2680]

The o line lost us this game and several others this year. They almost killed MW, they can’t make lanes for our RBs, and they don’t give enough time for plays to develop. In the first half Goff had so much time to throw, I rarely see those with our line.

[@goodvibes7104]

I'm going to look at the positive whoever is playing QB. I prefer MFW, but at least we get a good look at Zach these last 4 weeks. It will give me more of an inclination of who Zach is and if he's the right guy moving forward. Rooting for the Jets to win out!

[@arunmorace1136]

Zach wasn't perfect but he did make a lot of plays. The frustrating "easy" misses are still there and that INT was absolutely terrible but his ability to create and zip passes all over the field is apparent. OL had major issues and at this point I just don't know what it's going to take for the Jets to get a DPI or roughing-the-passer penalty called in their favor.

[@jonw.415]

The Jaguars are Killin this team Thursday

[@JonJacks]

After rewatching this. It's frustrating how inconsistent he is but the ones where the receiver is open he just has got to hit them.

[@rahulramachandran8161]

Some awful plays, some good plays, some GREAT plays. I still believe in him with time. Mike White is the best QB right now though.

[@SmooveClipsss]

Nah. Give me ZW all day. He had more touchdowns today then mike his last two games put together. Zach’s explosive

[@jerrycurls88]

@@SmooveClipsss MW would have at least 2 td's today. ZW misses way too many throws.

[@kingbirdIII]

White being better than Wilson is such an L take. He isn't , Zac has a lot to work on but he much better than White. this is just back up qb syndrome. White gets a simplified playbook and played against the bears D lol.

[@jerrycurls88]

@@kingbirdIII the offense simply is better with MW. ZW can make some explosive plays but his misses kill drives. this is a win with MW.

[@kingbirdIII]

@@jerrycurls88 there is no doubt in my mind that the offense has been better with MW, but that seems to be a vibe thing with the Oline and receivers. The pressure that Wilson gets on him compare to MW is night and day. Wilson is the better QB and will be the better QB. Back up QBs bring energy and underdog mentality that you can ride for a few games. We've seen this over and over. Foles is the perfect example of this

[@dannyboy5362]

Zach has to work on his feet and embrace the pressure with the blitz. As soon as he see a blitz he's quicker than ever to throw the ball. If he can set his feet while being blitzed it will do wonders for him.

[@Derod2012]

It’s obvious Zach needs more rpo plays. Very similar to Darnold in that they’re at their best when on the move. Needs more accuracy in the pocket, but he has tremendous upside if NYJ plays to his strengths

[@jerseyboyantbrooks2824]

The jets need to have him as second QB we can’t blame him for the L he did what he was supposed to do.But he threw the ball to a bunch of places that was no where Garret Wilson with frustration was wide open he was so upset.I felt so bad cause he really was trying to come up with something

[@salmanjets718]

What was up with that timeout man. And then throw it down the field to berrios? Really?..

[@Jackson-zb8ru]

Just watch his first pass to Garret Wilson how is that not a PI? I don’t understand it what about the Hit on mims? I want to see the refs held accountable for once all and all B- for Zach

[@KD_55]

10:46 is the reason why I'm done with Zach. I don't care what his stats are. Zach had time to survey the whole field and decides to throw a "fuck it" ball to a double covered Berrios instead of Moore for a 1st down and a clock stopper.

[@KD_55]

Freeze at 10:51. Moore can turn up field and either get the TD or an easier kick for Leg-a-tron. Zach is not a starting QB yet.

[@wrecktangle]

idk... seems kinda like Barrios gave up on the route or was getting tripped up. He seems to turn on the Jets (pun intended) once he sees the ball in the air.

[@KD_55]

@@wrecktangle Regardless if he gave up or not, why does Zach think his best option on that play is a jump ball to the shortest receiver on the team, has had drop issues, and was double covered? I can understand if we had 10 seconds left...but if he completes that to Moore, or hell even Uzamah at the bottom, that's a clock stop at 25 seconds at best and you are well within field goal range

[@wrecktangle]

​@@KD_55 I'd guess because it was 1st down and maybe they wanted to take a shot at the endzone...? Still have 3 more downs to get the first if it doesn't work. The real question is, why are all the Jets receivers 5' 10" and shorter? What happened to the prototypical 6' 3" guys? I do remember that Wilson liked to target Corey Davis and had success there, too bad he was out. Oh yeah, just realized Mims was knocked out (pun indented) of the game too... I guess that's what happened to them.

[@KD_55]

@@wrecktangle yea I can’t answer why we have so many short receivers. I get there’s more to talent then just your size, but it’s something I’ve found myself questioning as well. Adding another big body receiver to the room would be beneficial if one of Mims/Davis is cut.

[@raynagy7660]

Ryan do you feel zack improved today and will he be starting against jags.

[@JetsTalk247]

100% Zach will start vs Jags but that's more due to White being hurt than Zach being good

[@raynagy7660]

I like that answer Ryan I live here in Jacksonville but I am always a Jets fan and I don't root against Jacksonville unless they're playing my boys to Jets

[@raynagy7660]

The Jets

[@raynagy7660]

It's tough you live in the city that you've been living for 25 years but you grew up in a place that has your heart it's going to be a heartbreaker either way for me

[@raynagy7660]

It really doesn't matter what I have to add everybody knows what the Jets situation is and it's not good the defense needs to play better and we need a better quarterback and Mike White is that guy

[@theforeverpuddle8754]

Zach was okay. That's it, he was okay.

[@bright6200]

As a jet fan. The arm talent with this guy is amazing you can not teach that but he can not make the easy throws. It's confusing.

[@JayEazyWhat]

So we going to act like Jeff Smith shouldn’t have caught that ball in the end zone smh

[@jakewilliamson1113]

The jets do this with every quarterback they've drafted in the past 10 years. Zach clearly wasn't ready to start day one. They did the same thing with Darnold and look how that turned out. Zach has sky high potential but it's no question he has things he has to work on. His footwork is off, and he can't read coverages well. Thats why you just need to sit him until He's ready. I speak for every jet fan when I say we want Zach to be the starter eventually, but it's been clear that he's just not ready to play. It's not uncommon for young quarterbacks to need a couple of years to develop. Look at Jordan Love. He looked awful last year, but after sitting and learning behind Rodgers he looks like a polished player. Only some quarterbacks are built to be day one starters, and most who are not end up becoming screwed for the rest of their career. Zach played well this game despite the outcome, and obviously they had no choice but to play him because of Mike Whites injury, but if I'm the Jets, I'm starting Mike White as soon as he becomes healthy, and going into next season they should keep Zach, and let him develop chemistry with the OC and the offense as the QB2. He'll be ready when He's ready, but right now, he is definitely not ready. If the Jets keep this up, he's just going to be Darnold 2.0. And I believe that if the Jets handled the Darnold situation differently and gave him time to develop behind a veteran QB, then the outcome could have been gradually different. Let's hope the Jets make the smart decision next season because this season is a wash now.

[@uselessbob3630]

Zach is just not ready. He has improved but not a NFL quality qb yet. He needs to sit and learn.

[@JadedJet]

Lions left a lot of interceptions out there

[@chasechance711]

Some of the completions he made were just really lucky. Like the lions secondary is not good at all

[@swe2680]

I was disappointed with ZW play, only because I was expecting more. But if a QB does 300+ yards, two touchdowns 1 int every game, that is average/above average stats. But the stat that matters is under the win column. With a time out they would’ve had a chance/time in that last drive. Coach helped us lose, defense on TD on 4th and inches lost us game, special teams two games giving up a punt return lost us game, and #1 reason: our offensive line lost us a second game.

[@davidjenkins2575]

If he hit berrios on that deep ball at end of 4th that’s a touchdown there was nobody infront of him

[@dylanthomas7123]

He needs to hit them dump offs if he can hit them check downs he'll be alright

[@hashimreese9633]

They need to let Zach be Zach and stop trying to force him into being who they want him to be. Alex Smith was considered a bust initially too, however with grooming and right coaching went on to have a solid career. Zach looks better than Smith did at this time. Zach can make the throws, but will the team allow him too?

[@mumtazshamsee5029]

HOW IS THIS OKAY? Total 18 positive plays and rest haphazard throws and missing way off NEVER LETS OFFENSE get into rhythm Pass on target timely completions (includes dump-offs) - 17 Passes thrown behind WRs or missing badly or off target or side-arming (includes INT) - 14 Good throw but bad call for not getting defensive holding (Should have been TD to Jeff Smith) - 1 50/50 ball incompletions - 2 50/50 ball completion bad throw like to MC -1 Double clutch negative plays - 3 Avoidable Sacks because instead of side stepping he tries to escape pocket or run sideways or holding too long - 3

[@sirrobin4394]

He sure has some weird lapses. One moment he gets a decent drive going, then next he throws an interception. It's like he's only 50% mentally there.

[@kevindurant8388]

Elijah moore running the wrong way is so hard to watch every single time

[@peugeot120]

I’m halfway through and I’ve already seen 2 blatant pass interference plays that weren’t called.

[@mec506]

Poor Jets fans

[@tieoneon1614]

Seems like he just needs disciplined QB coaching. His bad throws are when his throwing mechanics arent correct....side arming, off balance, foot placement etc.

[@lizhang9807]

what happened. i thought this is mike white's team ....

[@wrecktangle]

Mike White is immobile and the Jets' o-line is garbage. Add those two together and you get Mike White missing games due to fractured ribs.

[@TitanShifterJeager]

Pick was horrible and that lob in the air was terrible, but really thats all I have to complain about. Not bad

[@chess1993]

Saw about 7 or 8 open receivers he completely missed on. Can’t do that in this league and call yourself a starter for too long.

[@familyman600]

LOTS OF DPI WITH IMPUNITY

[@Dwaynery]

I watched ever throw to see if my eyes deceived me, and it didn’t. I count 11, that’s right 11 open receivers that ZW missed and 2 sacks in which ZW created by trying to escape clean pockets. He’s not the only reason why the Jets lost, but he’s definitely a contributor

[@josephvida3409]

Lions were getting away with a lot of pi can u say rigged

[@khutxomachete3888]

Zach Wilson's girlfriend is Kaila/Kalefa and she's also Kefla and she is both those people in Toei Animation's DragonBall Z Super in the Tournament of Power!

[@giovannigarcia8876]

I don't know why people defend him so much? Legit. It's not like he's curing cancer. He's just not ready to play QB for a playoff caliber team right now. That doesn't mean he never will be, but if he can't stop throwing off his back foot and doesn't gain a sense of touch I don't know how many opportunities he'll get.

[@johnthadude]

That first TD, against almost any other team that’s a pick. But Detroit has no secondary

[@MU-nf9tl]

Lmao, such nonsense. That throw, across the field from hash to hash, over 30 yards away, is one of the most difficult throws to make and he dropped it in the bucket. Jets fans are the worst.

[@g.j9665]

Only jets fans want their No.2 ovr picl to be a bust

[@connorc1541]

@@MU-nf9tlthat guy sucks lol he embodies the portion of the fanbase that are rooting for this kid to fail. Losers

[@johnthadude]

@@g.j9665 I don’t want him to be a bust, HE IS A BUST!!!! Said it before they drafted him

[@g.j9665]

@John Harrington Everyone can see Jets fans want Zach Wilson to play bad so he loses his spot because they like Mike White more. When Mike throws a pick, its just a pick, when Zach Wilson throws a pick, its the worst throw of the year, absolutely no excuse, needs to be benched. Jets fans are pathetic and Zach is too good for bith the organization and the fans

[@dylanthomas7123]

Uncle Roger hai yaaaa

[@billymayshaysjohnson5661]

Worst offensive line ever. I counted 6 maybe 7 bad balls thrown but not horrible. He hits receivers in the hands and he's the bad guy when they drop it? Uh no.

[@patrickkeefe8231]

I'd like to see the J-E-T-S do well. This kid Wilson is just not very good. He is not pitting the ball in a good position for his receivers to catch, among other issues he seems to have. The defense of the Jets is championship caliber. The rest, not so much.

[@AlphaDwg]

Zach makes throws every game where you wonder if he even bothered to look at the coverage. He has some talent but he’s inconsistent can’t make the easy plays. These jump ball throws are nice highlights but that’s not consistent offense.

[@316VictoryHomes]

All these people saying ZW needs development because all the potential is there, you have failed to realize the Jets are a superbowl caliber team. Great defense, great WRs, a solid running game even without Breece Hall, and good OL. ZW needs at least 2 more years before he's ready. That's not ideal when you got a win now team around him.

[@JarrettC568]

Good OL??

[@thomaspalmieri6038]

The O line stinks, or let's say it's tattered, and rebuilding it is priority number one in the off season. Joe Douglas's philosophy is to win with the O and D lines, so I expect drafts and free agent signings for the OL in the offseason, just like with Cincinnati last year and the Chiefs the year before that. If they could rebuild it that quickly, and the Jets now have enough cred to sign quality free agents, they should be able to make a major upgrade this offseason.

[@thomaspalmieri6038]

Also, the idea that Mike White is going to out duel Mahommes, Allen and Burrow come playoff time is absolutely laughable. The Jets are not even a playoff team yet, and they went 1-2 with Mike White, losing to Buffalo and Minnesota, so let's get a hold of our horses here.

[@AdamAlexanderHorvath]

He just has no touch feel for the passing game

[@ohiostin]

This isn't my guy. He's not running my scheme that I taught him when he was at BYU. The real Zach Wilson is in another timeline. We're working on getting him here and sending this guy there.

[@champstar9669]

John Titor says that sounds good to him. :p

[@michaelmoore3373]

You sound like a student on shrooms

[@ohiostin]

@@champstar9669 they're putting Mike White in a #2 Wilson jersey. It came through here as this. Much better, but needs some work. The Jets are 7-7, and in-the-hunt for a wildcard slot. They say Wilson is good and he's not the problem.

[@live2thefullest617]

First off, this was a team loss: O, D, SpT, all had back breaking plays that put points on the board for the Lions, coaching staff mismanaged the clock. However, Zach looks as lost as he did before his benching. Not seeing open receivers, throwing behind or over open receivers. Made a couple of nice throws but that's expected from a starting NFL QB. Need to get Mike White back in for the rest of the season and then have an actual QB competition next season. MLF needs to go, play designs awful.

[@jmg7825]

Why did Zach audible to a run on the first play? That stupid play pushed them back a yard or two. Can't blame the D for the punt return TD when they stopped the hottest O on 4th and goal, when Zach and O can't get any breathing room and Mann kicks a horrible punt and ST blows coverage. Bad take. 18-35 cost us this game and MFW needs to be cleared for TNF or season is over.

[@ncvman]

So many over throws and under. Bad

[@Guild176]

Was at the game. He was getting bailed out by receivers all day. Could have finished with 3 or more picks. He sucks and will never be good.

[@dremyofit6719]

Zack needs to drop the 2 it’s a 💩 number

[@dereksavastano]

Zach Wilson truthers would rather leave their families and move to Guatemala than admit they’ve been conned and sold a dream… This kid isn’t an NFL Quarterback, and before you go “Well Derek… Where’s your NFL experience, blah blah & he makes more money than you” To answer: I wasnt selected 2nd overall in the draft and still feel confident in my ability to step up and throw to a drag, slant or in route. Let me break this down for you all. He is bottom 3 in every statistical category since entering the league. He has this terrible habit of generating his own pressure in clean pockets and he is super paranoid, This game is a best case scenario imo. He throws lollipops and plays jackpot half of the time, pre-decides what he thinks he will see and gets stuck on receivers. The mental make up and in general body build arent built for the NFL, U either are short and fast or youre short and can read defenses, he can’t do the latter and i wouldn’t necessarily call him fast, twitchy sure. Zach Wilson Truthers and Apologists will stand firm on the fact that the Jets are letting down Zach and not vice versa. This is probably the stupidest explanation i’ve seen on here, worse than anything He could muster up in a post game conference. His defense is and has been phenomenal and gave up 6 points this whole game before that TD and the offense couldn’t do shit to Win this game. Sure man theres flashes in there but thats all they are and then he misses such clean hitters like the slot post to Berrios in the last drive and the Deep In to Garrett Wilson. I think at least he is self aware and knows he has to get better, he has one more year of leash if he blows it its over…

[@dereksavastano]

In case you all forgot, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning didn’t have the biggest, most active Arms what they had was accuracy and the mental side of the game to understand reads and defenses, this kid is Doug Flutie-esque. Hope im wrong though.

[@Luke43168]

The sooner the org gets rids of zw the better chance we have at winning. Mostly utter incompetency. He's lost. Maybe could find a career with another team.

[@TonydaGM]

3:47 that was a 57 airyard throw, the furthest he has ever thrown a football in 5 years, it was 5 yards short. He made 1 nice throw for the TD. He missed countless recievers , and was a 1 read QB the majority of the game. He is not a West coast offense QB. He just throws the ball up for grabs. Sign White and draft a QB. Build a wall to protect the QB. The roster is loaded .Wilson is done a back up at best. The Mahomes,Allen and Rodgers comparisons are a joke. All 3 of those QB's can throw it further from the kneeling position.

[@robertkillian2418]

I agree start White, if he is healthy, but Zach isn't done. When it comes down to it he got us the lead with four minutes left. The defense blows a coverage, lost us the game. Poor clock management on the last drive lost us the game.

[@MU-nf9tl]

That throw was only short because of the 5 step drop, slow decision making. If the Jets offense ran quicker options he’d do a 3 step drop, get an extra 6-10 feet on the throw. Smith gets separation to score. As is, it’s still a great throw.

[@TonydaGM]

@@MU-nf9tl it's short by 5 yards he had to wait for it, that was a horrible throw, he needs to lead him up the field, he waited on the ball with over 2 yards of seperation

[@MU-nf9tl]

@@TonydaGM it was the drop man, 3 steps, quicker release gets more separation. it wasn’t a horrible throw, he easily made the catch.

[@TonydaGM]

@@MU-nf9tl What are you talking about ,he had time in the pocket and he needed to throw it 5 yards deeper, it has nothing to do with a 5 step drop, do you watch football most downfield throws are 5 step drop or greater, he underthrew the the throw. He can't reach , saying that was a good throw when it was horribly underthrown is not understanding football. Allen, Mahomes, Rodgers, Fields, Herbert, Trevor, Burrow, every QB in the NFL except Tua get a TD on that play

[@TonydaGM]

11 off target throws and 3 possible interceptions not good at all.

[@wrecktangle]

Averaged 14.5 air yards, the highest for any quarterback with 15-plus completions in a game since 2012.

[@TonydaGM]

@@wrecktangle wow really, the underthrown TD to Smith and the jump ball to G Wilson are great plays.

[@wrecktangle]

@@TonydaGM I remember you were the guy whining about 'air yards'... now that Zach Wilson just threw the most in over a decade... now it's "not good enough." Face it... you're a hater.

[@TonydaGM]

@@wrecktangle Are you joking, he made 1 good throw to the TE.He totally underthrew the Smith catch. He just threw the Carter and G Wilson catches up for grabs. Stop with the moronic stats. He was horribly off target the entire game again. He only makes 1 read. 3rd in long multiple times , he can't convert, Noone has confidence in him. Look at the 2nd and 3rd throw of the game. Look at the last drive Berrios and Moore wide open misses. Your raving about a severely underthrown pass. Wilson has NEVER hit a reciever with 2 plus yards of seperation in stride for a vertical TD with more than 5 yards of YAC at over 30 yards. He has never in 5 years hit that Smith throw for a TD.

[@wrecktangle]

@@TonydaGM Yeah, the good throw to the TE was from when this retard OC finally pulled his head out of his ass and called a play designed to get Zach Wilson doing what he does best, throwing on the move. Wilson has the arm talent to roll left and throw 60 yards back across the field to the right. Instead they want Zach Wilson to be a "pocket passer", when the fucking o-line sucks and there is no pocket half the time.

[@mfritz2087]

Lost us the game bro I'm so frustrated. White wins this game

[@greenguy17527]

stop being moronic he gave us the lead. d lost it and he got them right back for a fg attempt

[@drew7914]

He had 1 bad pass and at the end of the game saved it… why do people think white is good when he throws 50 times lol

[@mr_excessive_tackle1114]

@@drew7914 Because Zach is so bad he makes our backup look like Jesus

[@mfritz2087]

@Drew bud, we're you watching the game? He should've had 3 pics. Multiple underthrown balls and air mailed multiple receivers. His wide outs were throwing hands up at him with some of his balls. What I don't understand is how people like the kid in the stage he's at now. He needs a lot of work and there hasn't been enough improvement since he started to think he will ever be that dude.

[@JetsTalk247]

Completely agree, Jets offense looked sub par. This was a team loss that could have been a win defense let us down in a bif way

[@pvilla]

If Elijah didn’t go five yards back Greg the leg would’ve ICED THE GAME FUCKING MOORE BRO SHOULD OF TRADED HIM