JF-17 Thunder Dogfights The UNKNOWN | DCS World

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[@Taternader]

I love flying the JF-17, it's definitely my second favorite jet to fly in DCS behind the F-14. And getting her to depart flight when you want is very fun. Jeff vs Hornet is probably my favorite fight to do

[@BroaderPower8]

And the mirage is the biggest foe lol

[@subjectc7505]

Finally some Jeff love. Also the Pakistan J-17 is a good platform irl.

[@F0X_two]

Lol no

[@subjectc7505]

@@F0X_two You must be India and is upset about the air strikes Pakistan did with their J-17s.

[@okgameplayok1889]

@@subjectc7505 fr bro indian haters stay mad

[@newname69]

​@@F0X_two bruh Jeff feats are wild

[@m.andrews5578]

For me one of the most underestimated jets in dcs 😊

[@bjeh001]

Even when things don't go your way this is another masterful piece of work, LS, both cinematic and analytical at the same time!!! Your camera placements are as always amazing! And kudos to Saber for giving you problems! Always a treat when your videos come up in my notifications!

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you so much

[@firebald2915]

Length of videos: Just right. We learn more as we settle into the cockpit POV. Then, when you maneuver, we feel it... sorta. Thanks for such amazing camera work.

[@EndoplasmicReticulum7]

Americans have the Bitchin‘ Betty, Russians the Nagging Nadja, but this plane has the Lovely Linda 🥰.

[@Markbell73]

Lovely Linda just got her a $ $ shot off twice!

[@quasimondo1933]

@@Markbell73 She sounds so lovely even in death.

[@jakubdabrowski3846]

"Little China girl"

[@masoodjalal1152]

For some reason the first thing came to mind was "silent Shabana" lol. Kinda Weird that Shabana is not that comon name.

[@pkemr4]

Germany has Helga in the 29G

[@naherf385]

JF17 Thunder flown by competent pilots with supporting assets like AWACS can wreak havoc on any known enemy in the world.

[@snugglecity3500]

Found the paki

[@voidcloud7749]

Are you Pakistani

[@Alien69-m9l]

That's a lot of talking for a person whose country lost 4 war and shelters terrorists.

[@naherf385]

@Alien69-m9l That's lot of talking for a person who believes that the his/her country's opponents lost all 4 wars.

[@Alien69-m9l]

@@naherf385 all countries in the world believe that Pakistan lost 4 wars, get off the copium 😂

[@ryuhayabusa9601]

Too close for guns... Switching to Meele.... 😂

[@LongShotChannel]

LOL🤣

[@PFSquirrel]

Fox 4!

[@daviddoyle982]

0:50 As we all probably know by now, the JF gun is actually pointing downwards as it’s supposed to be a ground attack gun. Also, I understand, to be an area of effect weapon, so it spreads like the A-10’s GAU. Though clearly can still be used for air to air, just need more skill, and more AOA, angel of attack, to get rounds on target 🎯.

[@ChalcedonXXX]

Angel of attack.................love it!

[@sidtedtilley]

This video fight is ace, Ace. Absolutely loving the in cockpit view of "you" flying the plane. DCS is getting proper realistic. Have toremark how fantastic is the production and direction of this show. More please. You make me greedy. Thanks

[@nimomemre6550]

DCS got the Block 2 version of Jeff so it's not that powerful..... but if block 3 is ever added, with AESA radar & WS13e engine ..... It may compete good with F16 & Mirage, if not F15.

[@brothergunns5055]

block III has an air cooled AESA radar. So in simple words trash

[@Obaid_Saeed]

What a joke👏​@@brothergunns5055

[@nothing56644]

@@brothergunns5055 tejas cant even fly lmaoo

[@brothergunns5055]

@@nothing56644 yeah that's why it has more than 8000 flight hours (60 hours more than the JF-17's average flight hour) . Lol. Womp Womp cope harder. And don't compare trash with Tejas.

[@aliazam2424]

​@@brothergunns5055 brother your samosa is rejected by your own iaf womp womp pajeet

[@paez4779]

That shot at the end made me flinch a bit

[@Patrick_919]

Don't have a missile against a hornet? Become the missile.

[@MasterBakerVideos]

The JF 17 looks like a 1 engine 1st gen Hornet with the root extensions of the Super Hornet, with the wings and tail of an F16. Frankenfighter.

[@traviswalker8933]

It was designed with a lot of design principles from the F-16 so.

[@Krecikdwamiljony]

Yeah, the first time I saw a JF-17 I thought I was having a stroke, then I thought I was looking at a troll photoshop (especially because it was in a "what's this jet?" type of post)

[@stevemc6010]

Northrop has this F-20 they'd like to sell you, lol The humble F-5 has quite a few kids

[@AliSherrr]

US companies were design partner in Super sabre project that ultimately resulted in JF17. It has alot of influences from US fighter jets.

[@asimjabbar8445]

Yeah and the DSI air intake inspired from the F-35. PAF had decades of experience on F-16s and they loved it. They just made a small copy of the F-16 with some design features of hornet sprinkled over it. In first attempt they were going to build just another F-16 but due to lack of engine options and budgetary constraints settled on roughly 20% lighter/smaller jet than the desired one.

[@bestestusername]

Haven't seen the jf for a while, good video

[@muhammadsaleh7229]

Jeff getting some love

[@Markbell73]

Yeah, lots of love. Right up the tail. Jeff is ghey, didn't ya know?

[@Savagepublic]

JEFF is a LEGEND ❤

[@mr_e_monkey8836]

That kill sound at the end was...unique. 😄 As always, great flying and cinematics that are second to none!

[@firebpm4977]

Looking at it, the JF-17 looks a little bit like the F-20 Tigershark of the 1990s

[@traviswalker8933]

The tiger shark was nothing more than an F-5 with a single engine exterior wise. Also the Tiger shark existed during the 80s, not the 90s.

[@JJPlayzOnP5]

@@traviswalker8933the F20 had better takeoff speed, had Fox 1s, a PD radar, faster, Better electronics. Go get info before you speak

[@JJPlayzOnP5]

@@traviswalker8933and it had IFF

[@traviswalker8933]

@@JJPlayzOnP5 I'm talking about the exterior. Learn to read before you argue.

[@JJPlayzOnP5]

@@traviswalker8933 well if your talking about an exterior then why say the word, “nothing more” learn how to speak before you reply

[@Pete292323]

Great one! I love these kinds of videos. One on ones, especially with rare planes are just the best.

[@abdullahjawed7596]

Just news came in Azerbaijan has acquired JF-17

[@Markbell73]

Rule #1-You can not out Viper The Viper!

[@nawazcheema9188]

Where is tejas samosaaaa maybeee so much stealth no one seeee him 😂😂😂😂

[@arjuna03]

Only madrassachaps make fun of a variant among aviation designs, Delta wing is a proven design for high altitude. nothing intelligible is expected from you & your uncouth crowd. Sourcing from Chinese (of all things) & claiming as yours, what a proud accomplishment.

[@Alien69-m9l]

Atleast our planes don't rattle while pulling a high g turn 💀👍🏽

[@rampantcoyote3136]

I don't think I'd want to be the one in the Jeff in a dogfight with any of those fighters. The PL-5s are lackluster Fox-2s, and the gun... well... even the DCS manual makes fun of the idea of using them in a dogfight. But the fact you pull it off as well as you do is impressive! :) Anyway, while it may be underpowered in a dogfight, it's BVR seems to be pretty good for a late-90s era aircraft, and it has really good air-to-ground, with excellent "smart weapon" capabilities. It feels like its one of those best-kept secrets in DCS.

[@Mike_Romeo]

PL-5 are actually pretty good. They are the fastest fox 2 missiles we have in DCS and I would put it between the AIm-9M and L

[@rampantcoyote3136]

@@Mike_Romeo Really? I haven't used them much recently, but it seemed like they are not so great at "all aspect." Technically, they work, but the hit% is pretty low except from the rear compared to the 9M or -9P5. However, it could have always have been the idiot behind the stick, too...

[@unurkan]

​@@Mike_Romeo Agree! I always do well with the PL5

[@Mike_Romeo]

@@rampantcoyote3136 I have a hit rate like 90% every time I have to use them on GS

[@GlobalRampancy]

This is great! Please do more Jeff dogfights!!

[@syedabdurrehman7127]

I watch this channel first time and absolutely say that he is inspired by Growling Sidewinder

[@SyedLordAnalystAnalysis]

@ 13:39 You Had Full 4 Minutes To Bom See It's Not Gun It's Man Behind The Gun 😂😂

[@EB-Ghost6]

my friend was in the Navy when they flew tomcats and f18a and he swears up and down that the hornet can’t hold a candle the the f14 in real life.

[@NavajoMX]

Great fights and the camera shots were especially awesome! Maybe in the audio mixing you could set a volume cut-off or something since the Fox 2 lock tone was *really* piercing 🙉 Great video otherwise though!

[@bc3713]

You and a wingman should do a 2v2 unknown, same or mixed 4th gen against whatever gets thrown at you

[@johnw5761]

Did you just ram that F-18?? O_O

[@MrRobertX70]

T The in-cockpit camera angles look great!

[@jamesm1242]

I wish somehow you and GS would collaborate more you both are awesome pilots and your video editing is a bit better it’s more cinematic with the right POV in your videos. It would make for an awesome channel if you joined up

[@timsullivan4566]

LS, these new video angles are AMAZING! 👍👍👍❤❤❤

[@wash_out]

Nice dude. Always a blast 🎉

[@Taternader]

You can use the rudder in a roll to really throw the jet around, just don't use any more than 40% rudder above 450 knots or you can rip it off. Which will cause you to lose your ballistics computer and most of your hud

[@fredvictor752]

First AA victory using "Taran"(ramming) in DCS I see in a while...

[@Ryan-go6id]

So the Eagle is flown by Emperor Palpatine???

[@mr_e_monkey8836]

UNLIMITED POWER!

[@Belix.Official]

Jeffs are so fun to fly!

[@zahirshah3345]

Its funny how u can shoot Russian Jets but deliberately make mistakes so that u don’t have to shoot American Jets, lol

[@shredder108]

Anybody else here who finds the 'the bluetooth device is ready to pair' ahh sounds funny in this jet?

[@StudSupreme]

If you're getting out-rated in a 2-circle, I understand the idea of offsetting the circles so that over time you can turn it back into a 1-circle/radius fight. But I was thinking: what if you simply went vertical? Wouldn't that offset the circles dramatically and also give you that energy advantage on the way down?

[@Mike_Romeo]

The enemy would cut the circle and since you lose a lot of speed when you climb, you will become a sitting duck and a easy target for the enemy since you dont have the speed to do evasive maneuvers.

[@Prometheus2100]

I'm glad to see content on the JF still coming out. I've been practicing on how to use the JF and try to make it my main aircraft. Watching videos like this really helps me understand dog fighting in this jet so thank you.

[@TestTest-lu8vi]

This is Dogfight! 👌

[@Fireburnin21]

Recommend you switch your gunsight to SSLC in special setting for the JF-17. Unless for some reason you like using LCOS more.

[@LongShotChannel]

Thanks. I did, much better, thank you

[@glennvogt1194]

You win some you lose some.

[@jeremyaudet3810]

fox 4 on the Hornets exhaust 🤣

[@mhult5873]

Thank you for another, as always, great video! 🙂 Br //M

[@CivisMilitarum]

Wow, almost forgot about the Jeff

[@faisalsaleem2478]

In real combat mig pilot simply knows that it's a suicide and sudden death mission. In BVR and modern avionics JF17 is just lethal and deadliest with PL15 and other weapons. No Mig pilot will try to challenge JF17

[@exploreradverturer8396]

In real life the JF-17 Block-III is an AESA capable, have HMCS and HOBS Missiles.

[@voidtempering8700]

​@@BlackHeart-7978Source? The KLJ-7A is liquid-cooled.

[@voidtempering8700]

@@BlackHeart-7978 The only radar that would have been available for the JF-17 was the Chinese AVIC radar, however, the KLJ-7A was chosen instead. You should at least know the names of the radars we are discussing.

[@orange_car155]

@@BlackHeart-7978 samosa with ☕😳

[@H-GHN]

@@BlackHeart-7978 THE TEA WAS FANTASTIC ☕🤡

[@user_673ghe22]

I am not an expert but I think if someone is on your tail and you can't turn fast I think you should pull your nose up and dive back to the attacker

[@icaleinns6233]

Round 3 - Fox 4! 😂

[@hermanlopez2945]

What a great fight

[@unurkan]

@longshot What is the best rate speed for JF17 for 2 circle?

[@ImtiazKhan-vk9jo]

This jet is cool.❤

[@jackjetpilot]

Old school F machines!

[@VAPOURIZE100]

Jeff needs to install a better engine RD93 is a stopgap solution 🤷 I was a bit disappointed by block 3 due to no engine change

[@alieditz2.0_terminator]

Many documents tell that Pakistan is already planning changes and blueprints of block 4 that they which Includes engine,more advanced thermal imager, green screen something

[@tariqziad8959]

MiG23 vs F14

[@OctopusgamingYTw]

Why Wikipedia blocked jf 17 ?

[@syedabdurrehman7127]

This guy do cobra in jeff hell ya!!!

[@maffimukshukran9369]

Do you and GS coordinate videos, lol?

[@Ronifromearth]

My family member is a mirage 2000 fighter pilot I have asked everything about it to him .... And believe me mirage 2000 is dangerous in real life too

[@kerof4091]

real life pilots are always very biased towards their airplanes. That is why we should only look at the data

[@N22S24]

Well, at least you didn't die by the Harrier or F-35 lol.............

[@muhammadali-mm4ce]

Jeff is king of dogfight it shot down su 30 and mig 21 of India in operation resort swift in 2019 in real world

[@Aquila-048]

Good day longshot 👦 I'd like to ask a favor in your next vid for an aerial skirmish between the Indian Air Force 🇮🇳 vs Pakistan Air Force 🇵🇰 It's been quite a while bit seeing the JF-17 in action 😆

[@WELSHDESI]

How Real these DCS Dog Fights?

[@oliabid-price4517]

Remember that the Mirage is quite a small fighter with quite a big engine, so the power to weight ratio is good.

[@abdulrazzaq3263]

very good video

[@TheGrimFoot]

7:45 that's the first time I've seen a hornet get its salad tossed

[@innovetv8639]

You're a good jet fighter pilot no doubt, but Growling Sidewinder is great jf 17 pilot.

[@SMRafeyAbidi]

Are you Guga from guga foods ?

[@abdullahnadeem1734]

JF-17 is not good at guns... It's gun is angled towards ground ... Anyways it's was a fun video

[@masoodchoudhary1]

bro you made a bit mistake there by putting a pilot with pakistani uniform in a jeff with chinese roundels meanwhile china doesnt even operate jf17

[@LongShotChannel]

Not me, just how it is

[@UmerFarooq-x2p]

i thought its real and whenever i heard name about J-17 thunder pakistan name pop up.

[@abdulrazzaq3263]

a dog fight should be between jf 17 lion of pakistan and teja of india samosa aircraft india begging from usa for engines for teja but america rejected india request

[@rise5059]

You cringe

[@sanaullahfarooqi9148]

Jf 17❤❤❤❤

[@mfaraz1990]

Love the jeff❤

[@joelfrantz3189]

Kinda feels like the JF-17 is a hybrid of the F-16, F-18, and MiG-21

[@munnumkhalid]

it is. made in such way,

[@DCSWORLDPAK]

Awesome reference video for JF jockies.

[@theone---]

We would uncage the seekers, unless something was updated...

[@PAKGOV]

❤ love your content jf 17 ...especially sead mission!

[@PAKGOV]

This jet is a masterpice ... which mig 29s powerdul engines, f16s wings, mig 21 backbone and f18 like cockpit... abssolute beast!!

[@cyberdyn1]

❤❤

[@rajaejaz969]

Love for Pakistan ❤

[@loicalex]

You're the most skilled DCS fighter I saw on YT I reckon. To the point where sometimes I feel you're playing down to your opponent for content.

[@unc4skn244]

idk him and sidewinder are gods i cant tell which ones better

[@subjectc7505]

That's what makes a good pilot, knowing your capabilities while also learning and improving.

[@loicalex]

​@@unc4skn244 That insane dogfight with the SU-35 Flanker-E Vs the F-22 Raptor he had against GS made me believe he's slighlty more skilled IMHO. Longshot is the absolute master of Flankers. Watch it, that's worth your time.

[@saltzen961]

F-16 :)

[@Leandro.....2224]

Se pone aburrido, cuando no usan misiles

[@SatisfyingEverything1]

PRIDE OF PAKISTAN 🇵🇰

[@SanjivThevaindra]

pls fly LCA Tejas

[@MuhammadAli-255]

There isn't a Tejas in the game.

[@exploreradverturer8396]

Ha Ha Ha

[@Darkgamer-sn3ng]

LCA Tejas mod please 🙏

[@AanishkhanAK]

JF 17 always good in the game and also good in real life bro because its from Pakistan and china

[@Talib_Zaidi]

jf 17❤❤

[@letsgaming2.0]

J-17 blunder

[@DaniHaldar-qk5zg]

Jf 17 beat Mig 29 how funny panic American...😂😂..nice Hollywood propoganda

[@shaheerazam8304]

Quite possible,Jf-17 Has great Weapons.