Hi Jeff, I've been to the Chicago O'Hare Tower and number of times and here's some advice on how they coordinate arrivals to cross the departure parallel runways: [Tip #1] When the aircraft lands on the arrival runway, TOWER tells them to "stay with me" and TOWER is responsible for getting them across the departure runway. Once they cross the active departure runway, THEN they hand them off to GROUND. This prevents the coordination and delay between TOWER and GROUND of trying to see when there is a good time to send an aircraft across. Which is why you were always asking Buggs if it was clear to taxi an aircraft across. Keep the arrivals with Buggs and once he taxis them across his departure runway, he can hand them off to you! [Tip #2] Also, another way ORD prevents delays with parallels is Intersection Departures and have the taxiing arrival aircraft taxi BEHIND that intersection to cross the active departure runway without any delays. Hypothetical example, if you send them to depart Runway 27R at intersection [S], then you could taxi arrival aircraft from Runway 27L via [N6] [N] [D] [M-to the ramp]. That way you don't even have to coordinate with the Tower. Just offering some tips on what I've seen in the real world! Love your videos!
@BrewtownFlyer2 жыл бұрын
Well that went South pretty quickly. LOL. Couple tips: -Create a traffic flow game plan before starting. -Every time you issue a taxi instruction, it causes the plane to pause its movement. Keep that in mind. -Gotta get planes off the gates as soon as they call if at all possible. This should be Ground’s priority at ATL. -Listen to readback of instructions. Otherwise, you miss some “negative” or “my gate’s blocked” responses. -Keep planes with Tower until runway crossings are done, safer and more realistic at very busy airports like this. Plus you don’t waste time talking between tower & ground when it’s busy. -Use consistent taxi routes, especially for arrivals, even if the route is really long for the plane. This keeps planes flowing in same direction and avoids head-to-head collisions. Plus it’s hard to keep track of multiple planes each on their own customized taxi route.
@NWINWeather6 жыл бұрын
Tip for ya Jeff: I own this game myself and I discovered a command you can use to tell the planes to exit at different taxiways, before they land you can tell them "{CALLSIGN}, EXIT AT TAXIWAY {TAXIWAY}". For instance, if I wanted to get Delta 229 off the runway at N2, I'd tell them "DAL229, EXIT AT TAXIWAY N2". You need to give them clearance to land beforehand though... If it worked, they'll repeat the instruction back to you just like normal, if it didn't work, they'll tell you "Unable to land, the runway is too short" because you're basically only giving them part of the runway, and the part you're giving them is too short. Just choose a different taxiway if that is the case. :) For DAL852 and DAL72, you were telling them to continue taxi, but you haven't given them taxi instructions to the ramp. Pretty sure that's what happened. Plus, the follow company command is for departures only, it doesn't work on arrivals otherwise it'll direct them to a runway where a plane of their company is taking off.
@Aldeveron6 жыл бұрын
Seeming you and buggs want to play more diverse games, instead of DOJ, you should coop more stuff, would be awesome.
@ethanberg16 жыл бұрын
Planes are hanging up because you’re telling the, to continue taxiing but in the craziness you’re forgetting that you never gave them taxi instructions in the first place so they have nothing to continue.
@medpack3 жыл бұрын
I just love how he's yelling continue taxi to planes that have not been given taxi instructions yet :P
@BrewtownFlyer2 жыл бұрын
At some point, it should dawn on you to simply repeat taxi instructions.
@GlacierTek6 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad this series made a return! You and Buggs are hillarious as ATCs
@blackout23316 жыл бұрын
Jeff you gotta give them taxi instructions to the gate. The map is you're best friend to see the route you gave them. Also DAL29 was an arrival. Use the STRIP on the side to verify that. Other than that you're amazing.
@ISAFMobius186 жыл бұрын
I noticed a couple things in the future you should know. When telling a plane to Continue Taxi, make sure they have a highlighted path first. If they don't have a path, they wont move. When you said Follow Company, you sent arrivals to takeoff again. Also, after a plane lands, they need to reach a specific point of the first exit ramp before you can tell them to taxi any further. This is why you had a backup on Runway 28 because the planes never reached that checkpoint.
@Christopher-cr4qk6 жыл бұрын
Hey, Jeff and Buggs sorry I didn't see this sooner. I play out of KATL all the time and there is a trick to Runway 10/28. Just like the real Airport RWY 10/28 has 2 hold points.. 1 right off the runway to get the gate assignment (or taxi to ramp in tower3d) and 2 is the hold point to get clearance on Taxi Way SG. Reason being is SG is a narrow Taxi Way from the off-ramps of the runway. So here is the trick, the plane will stop first right off the runway, this is where you tell it to taxi to ramp etc. The second one is the plane will then hold at the numbers on your ADIRS ( SG2 - SG16) this is when you have to tell the plane to continue to taxi. If you follow that you should have no issues. Also In real KATL, the ATC puts planes in order on Arrival Runways. So try keeping them in order and you will have a good Plane separation pattern. Example start from RWY 26L and work your way down (26,27,28) or (8,9,10) and just keep doing it. Hope that Helps, Hope you see this and keep up the great Vids, love you guys.
@Dub_Makaio6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I miss these, I loved this series. Hope you and buggs do more
@trainguy36 жыл бұрын
I haven't listened to atc radio in a long time. I forgot how hectic it is. I was getting stressed watching this. Great video as always, Jeff!
@ChazDraycott6 жыл бұрын
"Delta 685, Fuck off!" - I absolutely died ahahahaha!
@KenPryor6 жыл бұрын
I just bought this game yesterday after watching a few of your videos. I can't believe how quickly time goes by while playing it.
@FlightATC4 жыл бұрын
I think the reason they won't move off the rapid exit taxiways is because you're saying "CONTINUE TAXI" ... I think it would work better if you say "TAXI TO TERMINAL" or "TAXI TO RAMP" or give them an entire taxi route.
@pete56686 жыл бұрын
To be really technical, at ATL, taxiway D is actually called "taxiway Dixie" because of Atlanta being a major Delta Airlines hub. I guess it's to avoid confusion between Delta Airlines and Taxiway Delta.
@jeffburnham66112 жыл бұрын
I think you identified the issue with why there was a bottleneck of aircraft not moving. The Tower was turning them over to Ground before they had finished their landing, meaning before the message popped up that the landing was successful. So you have a bunch of aircraft that technically were still in the air and under control of Tower, and the hand off was not registering. If he would have waited until AFTER the successful landing message, then Ground would have been able to give the command and it would have been carried out. Other than that, I can't think of why those aircraft would not be responsive to commands.
@FireWhacker036 жыл бұрын
Omg...more more and more so funny seeing you and buggs try and do this. IT'S SO HILARIOUS...you do a good job
@easymac792 жыл бұрын
Those planes like Delta 755 at 19:05 aren't taxiing because they haven't been told to taxi to ramp. They just came off runway 27L holding on the exit ramp. Same with most of the others that got deleted. I think 1 was super bugged though, set the precedent that this was a game issue.
@ariehamming17906 жыл бұрын
when the planes refuse to cross some runway's and just cause a trafficjam, it is because you didn't designate a taxi route for them. when you select them they will show their designated route. if you select them and there is no route, that's when they block.
@liamcarter76584 жыл бұрын
In real life, you would have multiple ground controllers, with their own section of the airport, in addition to a tower controller for each runway.
@forgottenfamily6 жыл бұрын
Those lost deltas were never given taxi instructions... Check the blue line. When they come off the runway, they never have a route Also, you don't lose points for deleting, you only lose the opportunity points
@aviationandotherstuff65716 жыл бұрын
When Jeff said “He’s not even holding shot of the runway, he’s just being an idiot” I burst out laughing 😂.
@kyl_e2 жыл бұрын
delta 29 you gave him follow company and the company that he saw was a outbound heading for 27R thats why jeff you thought he was a outbound
@nazarethcorreas28356 жыл бұрын
Thanks to you Jeff I'm addicted to this game know LOL..... I don't know how you guys can keep up with this, I'd be really lost. By the way I think that when the planes don't move even after you tell them "continue taxi" try telling them instructions (sometimes again) on what taxi ways to take. In other words, when you click on the planes and they don't have a blue line leading to their gate they won't move.
@Lilpiip1235 жыл бұрын
The planes didn’t taxi bcos they had no taxi instructions. All you said to them was “continue taxi”
@kylecampbell14443 жыл бұрын
I can give them taxi instructions and they still hang up
@CWINDOWSsystem326 жыл бұрын
Imagine going to work and having to deal with this clusterfuck every day. I guess that's why ATCs are paid so well...
@England916 жыл бұрын
CWINDOWSsystem32 Yeah and has the highest suicide rate
@Iikarios6 жыл бұрын
The planes that weren't moving because they weren't given any instructions thus 'continue taxi' wasn't working?
@themoondoggie15 жыл бұрын
Maybe start with 25% traffic ,100% is just asking for chaos.
@RasseruS6 жыл бұрын
Jeff, you having the planes taking off with the wind to their backs. Should they be taking off into the wind? Or that the wind too low to worry about wind angle for east take off? Also..... They not moving if they don't get the command to ramp.
@Mark-wd5fh6 жыл бұрын
I think one of the reasons planes were stuck on the taxi way after they landed was because you didn't tell them to taxi to the ramp / terminal. If you only tell them to continue taxi after they exit the runway, they will not move.
@ThiernoBarry6 жыл бұрын
Mark Johnson EXACTLY !!!!! It was getting on my nerves that he didnt realize that
@Harwell-gb5ho6 жыл бұрын
I think whenever you say continue taxi they don't go. try to restate the taxi instructions instead
@nates.45526 жыл бұрын
Please try again. This was hilarious to watch and I really like it. Do BOS!
@jlust66606 жыл бұрын
What I will remember from this video: Jeff: Fack fack faaack Buggs: Brickyard?
@josiahpresberry12634 жыл бұрын
It really does get crazy there I would watch how crowed it gets during rush hour
@bmtdouglas6 жыл бұрын
Bravo, Gents! You are a great trainer, Jeff, as Buggs is so much better at the game. Please do more, maybe not ATL, only because traffic this heavy requires more than 2 controllers. Like LAX, there would be 2 locals and 2 grounds. Even so, you guys are a great combo, no matter the game.
@isaacwan68626 жыл бұрын
@Jeff Favignano I believe that the airplanes at the exit ramps won't move is due to the fact that they have no taxi route so when you give them a continue taxi instruction, the airplanes have no route to continue taxi.
@jfavignano6 жыл бұрын
yeah I figured that out afterwards
@michaelmulkern91146 жыл бұрын
Yall should go on vatsim together.
@ltaproductions79895 жыл бұрын
FYI, the reason the aircraft was stuck on the turnouts were due to the fact that you failed to provide taxi instruction.
@tornado_1v1corza466 жыл бұрын
Most Problems you had with the aircrafts on the Apron (Crossing the Runways), You haven't given them Taxi Instructions to Ramp
@JapanesePiano16 жыл бұрын
Glad to see more Flight Simulation, ATC Simulation videos! Hope your doing good!
@JapanesePiano16 жыл бұрын
I agree
@tristans486 жыл бұрын
It’s back! Been wanting more Tower3D, I live near Atlanta. I’ve seen how busy it gets.
@luckykiller91316 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that Buggs and Jeff don't work at a real airport in the control tower. They would be good at it
@Spankys-place6 жыл бұрын
Delta 29 was given instructions to a go to a runway instead of ramp
@abdul-waks5 жыл бұрын
can you do another one of these videos? Loved these types of videos
@DylanH5506 жыл бұрын
I’ve been to the Atlanta airport so many times I can’t count it lol 😂 I’ve took delta international to go to the Bahamas. And it is crazy busy. So I now how it feels lol 😂.
@Cameronb286 жыл бұрын
I love these LOL! You guys should do KPHL together. I think the problem with the exiting aircraft not moving was because you told them to continue taxi before you told them to taxi to ramp/terminal
@jamesgtyler6 жыл бұрын
I LOVE TOWER 3D. YAY, IT IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!
@anthonycangelosi6 жыл бұрын
I was just playing this the other day and this airport by myself. I love playing this game
@boydbower56876 жыл бұрын
Watching this with you and Buggs - I had to grab it and play. Very fun, very addictive, thank you for the introduction! My request would be for KLAX.
@Spegy934 жыл бұрын
definition of stupidity: repeating the same thing expecting a different result. this infuriates me so bad.
@sw51826 жыл бұрын
Please do more xplane content i really enjoy that stuff
@JAM-ki8yt6 жыл бұрын
Ive waited so long for this!
@nmk32616 жыл бұрын
Jeff, you should start a scale model airplane collection. Film an unboxing video every time you get a new plane.
@Jprice1417886 жыл бұрын
So glad to see you doing this again! I stream this game and I love it haha! I also finally convinced one of my friends to play with me!
@ethanberg14 жыл бұрын
The ones that aren’t moving are staying out because they haven’t been told where to go. They can’t continue taxiing without a destination.
@bradhaughton66986 жыл бұрын
I like these guys when they play this game but crazy things is the stress level increases each time a different plane doesn't listen to them the same thing in real life
@DJChizzlesworth6 жыл бұрын
It's not graphically the same, but did you ever play the Tracon series? It's pretty good for area control especially approach and departure. Or for a more realistic area control there's ATC Pro but the skill curve is way difficult!
@MD88Pilot6 жыл бұрын
I love flying to Atlanta. Always a blast
@maxchertin84576 жыл бұрын
hahaha very funny video! good video! and jeff, if you want that youre plane exit from the runway at taxi way you want, and that will make less problems, you can say: "CALLSIGN, EXIT AT TAXI WAY XXX.
@carbonautics16 жыл бұрын
You didn't give the poor planes their route to their gates, where do they go. Poor pilots
@au44374 жыл бұрын
Yall should get with airforceproud95
@kingnothing_music6 жыл бұрын
Good to hear Buggs again!
@HenryYang-26236 жыл бұрын
Atlanta is crazy airport,Bug should hand it over to you when the aircraft near the gate
@blazemonger16 жыл бұрын
I've been building new schedules for T3D pro using actual current airport departures and arrivals. Becomes a bit different game then :D
@pilot08456 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid with yourself and Buggs! You should look into Vatsim controlling or flying... I think you'd be able to do some great vids
@iansouthern99576 жыл бұрын
That was proper mental! Never seen KATL that busy before! Great play though!
@dusterlives846 жыл бұрын
Tower 3d is on sale this weekend!
@seanbara52106 жыл бұрын
Great video Jeff Favignano, I would love to see more of this on the channel since I'm a plane enthusiast
@hamptonslife79496 жыл бұрын
Y'all need to do regular online again
@prinks19936 жыл бұрын
Somewhere near 15 mins of this video for incoming flights you where just telling them to continue taxi without telling them where to park their planes and just deleting them say they are bugged... Pure human error by only your side..! Did you realized that later?
@jjplayesgames6 жыл бұрын
Fo San Diego Because it only had one run way and would be a challenge
@Noblemarq124 жыл бұрын
I recently bought this, this Airport is a PiA solo but I love it so far
@RasseruS6 жыл бұрын
I wish, the Devs adds more Major Airports around the world Like Japan, Germany and UK.
@StormQue5 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile the passengers are mad because of traffic
@sargeftwgaming80726 жыл бұрын
was really wanting this!
@davidmichael55736 жыл бұрын
Personally I would have tower keep them till they cross the runway on arrivals. They switch them to ground. In the real world that's how it works.
@2210Shyland6 жыл бұрын
They are currently working on San Francisco.
@OptimysticPessimyst6 жыл бұрын
Woo Tower3D is back!!! More!!! Do a series of videos touring all of the available airports. Wish they'd introduce international airports. Imagine Sydney, Heathrow, Dubai, Paris CDG, Schipol, Manchester, Frankfurt all on this game.
@gtavstepfordcounty17336 жыл бұрын
Olly W Don't forget Baltimore Washington International airport is one too
@austinmiller8336 жыл бұрын
I bet you could pull it off if you got Polecat and Dave in there with you guys
@bidgey5 жыл бұрын
why not take off at the top/bottom and let the ladnings be on the other side????????????????
@codytran20106 жыл бұрын
Atlanta Is the busiest airport in the world The third one I know is LAX
@zakpoore73906 жыл бұрын
The next one you should do is St.Thomas, that would be cool
@MrJones-mk2zk5 жыл бұрын
what micro phone do u use
@connorkelly1216 жыл бұрын
I live in Atlanta!!! And it’s true, Hartsfield Jackson Atlanta international airport is he busiest airport in the world. 😂
@airplanes12376 жыл бұрын
That s true
@PilotUnknownX6 жыл бұрын
Connor Kelly jfk would be busier
@connorkelly1216 жыл бұрын
No ATL is literally the busiest airport in the world. Georgia is basically the biggest trading hub on the east coast. Tons of flights connect through here, and we have the savannah/Brunswick ship ports down south
@alsMass6 жыл бұрын
Love this game should play some more
@buddaman2005226 жыл бұрын
Keep it coming!! Also I hope Buggs gets that survivor with guns and monsters game. You can put that on Pay-for-View!
@nicholasgaydos58906 жыл бұрын
thx for bringing this game back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@aviationandotherstuff65716 жыл бұрын
Fortunately in the world there can be multiple ground and tower controllers especially at busy airports, And those controllers can talk to up to 10 planes at the same time.
@lukiemondi50076 жыл бұрын
I Love Tower 3D Pro!!! It’s the best game ever!!!!!
@tornado_1v1corza466 жыл бұрын
You didn't give Delta 852 (DAL852) Taxi Instructions, That's why he didn't move
@artysauceyeet36196 жыл бұрын
I live 20 mins from the Atlanta airport!
@VulpeculaJoy6 жыл бұрын
NO ROUTE = NOTHING TO CONTINUE! UGHHH! 🙄😠
@Roger926866 жыл бұрын
I need more of these multiplayer sessions :D
@DJChizzlesworth6 жыл бұрын
This has been one of my favourite games, and as an introduction into the world of ATC games it's been great. I went into Tracon 2012 after this, which has a similar basic style but more complexity as you're controlling departure/center/approach respectively, but for the ultimate reality I went with ATC Pro, great STARS interface and voice interaction with controllers either side of you - something you fancy trying out?
@wizbangFLL4 жыл бұрын
I know in normal ATC tower won't tell you to follow company unless your at at intersection or approaching an intersection.
@ryantapley68446 жыл бұрын
Well, that escalated quickly! haha
@jamescallaway29076 жыл бұрын
These are favorite videos you do. Thanks for great video.
@flyingwolff47746 жыл бұрын
well in real life fround at ATL does not have to worry about the Ramp... kinda sucks
@DeltaMike19906 жыл бұрын
+Jeff Favignano I'd like to see San Diego & if Cincinnati (CVG) is available, I'd like to see that too!