Jiang Qing vs Deng Xiaoping | Duels of History | ARTE.tv Documentary

[@jstasiak2262]

Several important points were elided in this documentary. 1. Deng Xioping was purged from the Chinese Communist Party a total of THREE TIMES, not once as stated here. He was denounced as a “Capiralist Roader” during the “Great Leap Forward.” After Mao died in 1976, Jaing Qing tried to make it a fourth time. She failed. Each time Deng was purged, he was protected by Zhou Enlai. Other great Chinese leaders who did not have a benevolent protector like Zhou (e.g. Liu Shaoqi and Peng Dehuai ) who tried to move China in the right direction were humiliated, purged and killed. 2. In between Mao and Deng, China had a leader named Hua Guofeng, who was Mao’s designated successor. Hua was basically undistinguished, except for one very important thing: When Mao died, he did not want the radical left (led by Jaing Qing) to take over. He mobilized reform minded Chinese Marshals who rescued Deng from rustication and put away Jaing Qing and the “Gang of Four.” If Hua had not done this and Jaing had taken power after Mao died, things would have turned out differently. 3. Nixon’s visit to China in 1972 was a real big deal in China as well as the US. This was Mao’s decision and it involved significant political risk. There was a large and powerful contingent of Chinese leftists, of which Jaing was one, who did not want normalization of relations with the United States. Mao had to kill his designated successor, Lin Biao (who wrote the “Little Red Book”), in order to receive Nixon and begin the normalization process. Again, the outcome was hardly foreordained. If Nixon had not gone to China in 1972, China would likely not have opened up for another 20-30 years because of the strong opposition to rapprochement with the West within the left wing of the CCP. 4. Xi Jinping, the current paramount leader of China, and his father, Xi Zhongxun, were both purged by Mao. After Mao died, Deng worked to rehabilitate Xi Zhongxun (along with posthumous rehabilitation of Liu Shaoqi and Peng Dehuai ). Again, this easily could have gone the other way.

[@griparbelli]

In the last interview Mao said to Edgard Snow many further Cultural Revolutions were required to guide China, a still poor Country; and capitalistic one in the superstructures (he said "there are still eight differences in salaries") to Communism. When Jaing Quing was arrested, the PCC was left only with half of his Politburo. One of the neuralgic upturning point of the CR period was the "Lin Biao Affair", for many reasons. The most strategic, at Mao's death, was that with the leftist chosen successor (The Comrade's in Arm) and Marshal gone; and millions of the youngster heroes of the GPCR sent to work in the countryside; JQ Queen of the Arts and Zhang Chunqiao popular among the young revolutionary intellectuals lethally failed to have a mass force to contrast the long planned Putch from the different areas who were eager "to overturn the CR verdicts". Mobo Gao concludes in his book that Deng was more a patriot than a Socialist . While Mao said during the liberation fight: if first we don't liberate China we will not even have a base upon which build Communism

[@griparbelli]

Mao was surprised of the havoc created by the rapid escape of his heir, comrade in arm , and editor and prefacer of The Little Red Book. At the end of the day, thinking of the huge political crack to be faced, he came out with a typical sentence of his:" You cannot stop the rain " .

[@griparbelli]

"Pile foodstuff. Dig Shelters". was one of the latest Mao's recommendation to his people. When he opened to the West starting from the " Friendship among people"; the"Ping-pong politics" Mao was fearful from a USSR, by now the main imperialism, sudden attack to the many thousand kms common board . This act implied two outcomes . One immediate: the Popular China admission in the UN system, with the Republic of China exclusion . And in the long term the beginning of the general crisis for the Country of the Soviets.

[@tomsuh1362]

You have to thank Deng for making China modern like today and making cheap stuff for the rest of the world.

[@soultravellerDonJohn]

Yep. After Deng Xiaoping the market economy with the Authoritarian bureaucratic system, the Chinese working class, particularly the Labour worker all became cheap labour for globalisation. Sweatshop with cheap labour, but big winnings for global capitalism.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

*Resilience and Adaptability**: Despite facing challenges and setbacks, the Chinese Communist Party has shown resilience and adaptability over the years. The ability to evolve and adapt to changing circumstances has allowed communism to remain a dominant force in Chinese politics.

[@Montecristo1805]

Why did you have to incorporate these cheap effects? Lowered the authenticity and gravity of this information.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

Jiang Qing, the wife of Mao Zedong, was a prominent figure in the Cultural Revolution and held influential positions within the Communist Party. She was known for her radical views and involvement in the political upheavals of that era.

[@bhubestakesoponsatien1143]

The Cultural Revolution started by Mao but the blame must go ti the Gang of Four , Hua take over Mao but also follow the cultural Revolution and so it is ousted.deng a close friend of Zhou and so it is

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

Deng Xiaoping, on the other hand, played a key role in China's economic reforms and modernization efforts following the tumultuous period of the Cultural Revolution. His pragmatic approach to governance led to significant economic growth and development in China.

[@DmoneyS44]

Cultural revolution was a huge mistake and a lesson. Progress must be rooted in materialism and in productive forces rather than idealism and culture wars

[@柳清枚]

如果不搞文革，就会出现资本主义复辟，当时再不搞，老功臣会成为新贵族，中原会出现修正主义

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

Under communist rule, China underwent significant industrialization and infrastructure development that laid the foundation for its economic growth in later years. Projects such as the Great Leap Forward and later economic policies helped to boost industrial output and improve living standards for many Chinese citizens.

[@madoxxxx06]

@@PoisonelleMisty4311 The great leap backward was the single most disastrous decision in humankind, killed more people than a world war!

[@aldrinmiguel6862]

Look at the results

[@crayonsukrou913]

@@PoisonelleMisty4311 _"Under communist rule, China underwent significant industrialization and infrastructure development that laid the foundation for its economic growth"_ Under Capitalist rule, Britain, the birthplace of industrial revolution, underwent significant industrialization and infrastructure development etc etc.. Under Capitalist rule, Prussia (Germany) underwent significant industrialization and infrastructure development etc etc.. Under Capitalist rule, United States underwent significant industrialization and infrastructure development etc etc.. Under Capitalist rule, Japan underwent significant industrialization and infrastructure development etc etc.. Under Capitalist rule, Singapore underwent significant industrialization and infrastructure development etc etc. Under Capitalist rule, Taiwan underwent significant industrialization and infrastructure development etc etc.. Capitalism basically produce the exact same result without all the horrible mass-starving and chaos of the idiotic class warfare in practically all Socialist/Communist countries (USSR, China, Cuba, Yugoslavia, etc).

[@yip2454]

Its nice to see different sub communist ideology

[@markgrissom6107]

If you want viewers to take your documentary seriously, at least find someone who can say the names correctly. “King” for “Ching”, “Zou” for “Jou”, “Ki” for “Chi”. And what the heck is „the Zedong couple“? Just use common sense! When was the last time you referred to John and Jacqueline Kennedy as „the John couple“???

[@benjamintaine4476]

Low quality

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

Overall, the role of communism in saving China is a complex and multifaceted issue that requires careful examination of both its positive and negative impacts on the country's development.

[@CARL_093]

in the end they are both same but deng xiao ping modernized china he is a french type of communist or socialist and made the long path for china to go UNTIL XI JING PING come to power everything changes

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

The Communist Party of China (CPC) played a crucial role in unifying the country and providing stability after years of civil unrest and foreign invasions. The CPC's leadership helped to bring about a sense of national unity and pride among the Chinese people.

[@aloyd6157]

there no communist in france, heard of japan communist party ???

[@gilberttello08]

👌👌

[@AliceHLin-l7j]

jiang xing was a pioneer of an era of free sex during the red revolution era... thank be to God that purify the society continuously..

[@griparbelli]

it takes the in China and westerner mainstream vulgate without deepening or giving a new investigation at all. As an example China was a Confucian country with a very conformist culture against the " Half of the sky" as Mao called the woman, and sustained her emancipation . Against the current, was not Jiang but Mao who vowed the new enter Jiang. Mao who was a vigorous man with normal sexual desires even under the condition of the civil war, was very respectful of woman and female comrades. This the report of Mobo Gao in his valuable and serious work:" In defense of China past. Mao and the Cultural Revolution", Ed Pluto London. Which Mobo ridiculize the figure and the words of Li Zhisui, the self-proclaimed Mao's special physician. Who was the media successful main strategist of a Chairman womanizer . Low quality.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

The communist government in China implemented various social reforms that aimed to improve the lives of the citizens. This included initiatives such as land redistribution, healthcare improvements, and education reforms.

[@griparbelli]

@@PoisonelleMisty4311 and the full implement of women rights; even old bias about women survived even in the practice of the Communist party . Debates about the woman liberation were not stranger to the Cultural Revolution taking off.

[@bhubestakesoponsatien1143]

Well she really support Mao but that wasn’t good for the country, th PLA support Deng and the forward . They need to respect the Founder , so all goes to her. Zhou and Teng know each other in France and both went to Russia , expose to Socialist and how trading is still a must .

[@JakZengLim]

video that again acts like they're talking about when they can't even pronounce jiang qing properly, no nuance at all

[@griparbelli]

Those are not Judges, bur servants of the regime .

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

Before the advent of communism in China, the country was plagued by a feudal system that oppressed the majority of the population. Communism helped to dismantle this system and redistribute resources more equitably among the people.

[@SaccidanandaSadasiva]

Madame Mao!!

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

While communism had its successes in China, it is also essential to acknowledge the criticisms and drawbacks associated with the system. The ideological nature of communism led to periods of turmoil and suffering, such as the Cultural Revolution and other political campaigns. Additionally, the rigid control exerted by the Communist Party has been a point of contention for those seeking more political freedoms.

[@swagpeach9850]

Terrible documentary at least use the real map of china

[@byhyew]

That's the most incorrect Chinese map I've ever seen... 😂😂😂

[@artetvdocumentary]

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[@simonyang-pe3ux]

what a evil woman she was

[@eltonbritt1502]

Is this AI-generated? Poorly made content. Lacks research. Can't even pronounce Jiang Qing properly!

[@gmicg]

The Prosecution accused Mrs. Jian Qing "to have tormented Mao Zedong."

[@柳清枚]

哥布林只是哥布林，而伟人一直是伟人

[@MharlinoCHANNEL]

they are two Chinese, Taiwanese and Mainland Chinese.. one is communist and the other is democracy...

[@janmcleod6727]

This so- called "documentary" is an incompetent piece of rubbish. One is surprised to see French authors degrading themselves with such a superficial & frequently inaccurate & slapdash product. My guess is that it is aimed at the most ignorant sectors of the European & Anglophone KZbin audience, who prefer lurid judgemental pulp statements to humane historical analysis... a disgrace to France.

[@christiansimon3749]

Deng was no different!