Jim Bridger vs the Mormons

[@carloskeener8707]

Jim Bridger is my great-great exedra exedra grandfather. His third wife "Marry" her name was actually Little Fawn. She was the daughter of Chief Washakie. These are my grandparents that I descend from. Love the show I'm a huge fan.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Thank you!

[@wyocowboynblue9011]

Wow. That is a couple of great - great grandfathers. Two of most famous and revered men of the west!

[@dionbridger5944]

No kidding

[@carloskeener8707]

@@dionbridger5944 yes sir

[@blackshirtsrule4ever]

That’s awesome thanks for sharing!

[@derekboag2360]

Who’s here after American primeval

[@yogertslinger84]

@derekboag2360 lol its the only reason I clicked on this video

[@t2av159]

is it good? or cringe woke nonsense?

[@hansscheltema3348]

Yep you know it

[@dunbar555]

@@t2av159 honestly it’s full of none sense, but the imagery is ok

[@FrankGerlette]

@@derekboag2360 Guilty as charged

[@paulharmon8275]

Your subject is Jim Bridger but your photo is of Orin Porter Rockwell?

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Correct

[@SetTheCaptivesFree4797]

Why?

[@TerryBusch-l8c]

Orin Porter Rockwell bushwhacked my great-great grandfather in Greenwood, California in 1850.

[@kevinvilmont6061]

@@TerryBusch-l8c holy cow. You can’t stoop any lower than than to bushwhack man. I have no idea of mine ancestors were born in 1850. I’ve seen the census. I know that they were alive and they were living in Illinois or Ohio. I don’t know a single thing about the details of the lives. Pretty cool stuff.

[@helloworldRR]

Who bushwacked him ?

[@Puckerupbuttercup261]

“Open a caffeine-free Diet Coke and gather the sister-wives” 😂 I about fell out of my chair!

[@fauxnews3740]

😀

[@2403rygar]

Mormon here. Great joke😂😂

[@82566]

😆😆😆

[@Helofelokids]

2nd... From Peter Skeens Backyard here.

[@brentanderson1549]

Mr. Josh, I don't listen to these quite often enough. But when I do, I'm appreciative of your ability to make history, first, educational. But for myself, more fun to learn. Your delivery is on point for folks like myself. Always a good listen, and lesson, in my opinion. Please carry on!

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Thanks for listening

[@rialobran]

31 minutes never went so quickly, the sign of a great story teller. I don't normally 'shout out' larger channels than my own, but the UK needs to hear your narrations.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Thanks man!

[@juliemercer1458]

I'm in the UK and I hear him.......love this Channel ♥️

[@DgDanger72]

Josh is one of the best

[@BanjoInKorea]

I agree.

[@James-tf7hc]

This fella Josh was born to tell stories. Very easy to listen too. Most narrator's are annoying if you like the subject matter this is as good as it gets. period

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Thanks James!

[@bas-tn3um]

dont glorify mormons.... @@WildWestExtravaganza

[@GTGibbs]

I found him annoying finally over the “magic underwear” crack. Low blow from low intelligence in my book. But that’s the difference between a historian and an internet story teller. Admittedly I do have a bias. But love Western Early History over any European history. Jim Bridger was a friend to my family the Taylor’s as I understand it.

[@SpaceCowboy-u7j]

I like his cadence. it’s not obnoxious and repetitively sing-songy. AND ITS NOT COMPUTER GENERATED. 🥳

[@mattray4841]

@@James-tf7hc hit the nail on the head most narrators are very dull I dig this dude for sure

[@vmhutch]

Wonderful watching this after watching American Primeval. Always love your presentations. I'm bailing out right now to listen to the first two episodes.

[@dannysimmons3167]

Being a truck driver I’ve been across dinner pass, Donner pass many times. I can see where it could be rough on a wagon. Terrible joke I know

[@outdoorloser4340]

You should erase your comment as it might trigger/offend the Modern American Cannibal Community (MACC).

[@dannysimmons3167]

@@outdoorloser4340 I should’ve called it diner pass. It started out as auto correct, but was just too funny to pass up. You can’t recall a word that is spoken or make something go away by erasing it. So it stays if it hairlips every cannibal in the USA.

[@blueliesmatter2]

Here from MACC we resent and resemble your remark sir. Would you care to discuss this at dinner pass? Damn spell check.

[@dannysimmons3167]

@@blueliesmatter2 as you have pressed the matter I suppose I get to choose the weapons? Say dinner forks at 10 paces? Time and place of you choosing

[@samuelmeeks2158]

@@outdoorloser4340 lol I didn’t know the “modern American cannibal community” was a thing but it doesn’t surprise me lol

[@atypicalmotorcycle752]

Wonderful information! I would have appreciated seeing some images, particularly the maps discussed.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Noted!

[@donfuselier4627]

That would be cool. Maps please sir.

[@SuperstarDJSupreme]

This channel is absolutely amazing. I'm gonna share this in every need group I'm in. Brilliant stuff. Well done.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Much appreciated!

[@milkrecu]

You are a great storyteller. Never leaving the path you started but adding asides and enrichments. Well done.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@kfritzworkshop]

Spent a night in Jim Bridgers house in Kansas City around 2015. My old navy buddy had bought it from a professor. Place was in some disrepair, and my friend told stories about the place, but I hadn’t heard of JB prior... somehow came across this in my feed. Cool

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

That's pretty cool!

[@JimmyMcCullochFan]

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the Netflix series American Primeval

[@goldrush49]

Damn I got excited for a minute until I remembered I listened to the whole story already. Very good job on these.

[@dwightcurrie8316]

Bridger's story is well worth repeating

[@danielpuckett7792]

Thanks!

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Thank you!

[@CFarnwide]

Wow! The algorithm has been kind and suggested 3 channels this weekend that I’ve subscribed to. Anyway… thanks from a new subscriber!

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Welcome aboard! Thank you!

[@monstersdad67]

Heard it on Patreon already, but listening again. great one again. I recently signed up on there. The best $5 a month I spent. Great work Josh

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Much appreciated!

[@CHSN-1]

Why is there a pic of Porter Rockwell? Because he was a Mormon?

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Yes

[@kelbyclyde7983]

The sponsors quote got me!! 😂😂🙌🏼 love the podcast, love the info. Very well done!

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@dalemeyer8207]

Have You done a video on Portor Rochelle, Bringham's Assassin, first Federal Marshall of the Utah Territory, Angles of Death , Stansbury Massacre, Missouri Massacre, the etemted Assassination of Missouri Governor.??? There's some interesting History about the Church and there Garments. Thanks 😎

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

No I have not

[@dii6266]

Me too driving a truck between Sacramento and Reno in the early 2000s. But didn't those folks in the snowy airplane crash somewhere do more dining? I did some skiing at Bridger Bowl once or twice - was that named after him? Have to leave early so I don't know if it was covered. Interesting - so I will be back. Thanks

[@stevecooper7883]

Knew a guy who almost crashed on his Cessna onto i80 on Donner summit flying that exact route. It still can be risky at times! He swore he'd never fly that route again with that 170 😅

[@bodalix18]

I genuinely love your channel. It's very funny and plenty immersive. Subscribed!

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Welcome aboard!

[@MountainHobbler]

As a descendent of Mormon pioneers that traveled with Young I enjoyed the jokes immensely! I have always liked Jim Bridger and prior to this video I too thought his motivation for pushing the Hastings cutoff was selfish but this video changed my mind.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Mormons have great senses of humor!

[@silvertiger2801]

My ancestors were were in Brigham Young s party too. Brigham Young was my great great uncle.

[@silvertiger2801]

You failed to mention that when Brigham Young met Jim Bridger, Young was suffering from Tick Fever. This fever as with any fever, can cause hallucinations & delusions. So you might've cut him a little slack by being fair about the fever instead of running him down.

[@silvertiger2801]

Also the photo you used was not Jim Bridger. It is a photo of a Mormon named Porter Rockwell, one of Brigham's body guards.

[@mikedesil23]

@@WildWestExtravaganza what's your take on Into the Wild Frontier?

[@StarchildeX]

I lived in Cache Valley, Utah. It was named for the caches of beaver furs the mountain men cached in the valley. Cache Valley was originally called Bridgerland because Jim Bridger was the first White man to visit the valley.

[@bongdonkey]

Excellent video, killer channel. You mentioned "Oregon Trail" the video game. Many hrs spent on Apple 2C playing that game in 80's. lol! Saluto!

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Thank you!

[@danielthurber77]

Openin' up a tradin' post in Wyomin' would'a been a smart move back in the day. Thank you. This channel is one of the best ever!

[@ludwigderzanker9767]

Great. Fit's the years of Jim's first wife with father Washakie life times? Her father one of Custers chozen scouts and a relative of legendary Sacajeva! Josh man ,you made it again, I learnend much about the earlier mormons, we have them here in Germany Germany for decades, nice people all of them. You got it dealt right out. Regards Ludwig

[@Anatidae1820]

That is Porter Rockwell in the opening, not Jim Bridger

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

ARE YOU SURE

[@lukedemello2077]

Correct! It's Porter for sure.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Lol I know...I was just giving him a hard time

[@lukedemello2077]

@@WildWestExtravaganza Hey you should do one on Porter Rockwell! That would be a fun one! Dude was loco!

[@hamijoh]

Have you looked into the Mountain Meadow Massacre? My g.g.grandfather traveled with Jim, settled in Salt Lake and eventually got sideways with “the saints” before hiding in Montana afraid for his life.

[@jamestregler1584]

Mighty fine job ; thanks ever so much from old New Orleans 😎 !

[@cliffhooper3558]

This is great, many details I hadn't heard. Got yourself a new subscriber

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Welcome aboard!

[@justinkowalski7018]

I just finished American primeval and this video is great!

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Thanks!

[@TroopThrowback]

Same here!

[@wrangelinhabitant161]

Hard life, rough, great people taking all the hardships with dignity and patience...

[@larryvanzandt8565]

As a Donner party descendant, I found this very interesting. Although it's been a while since I have studied the tragedy, I can't remember Jim Bridger being blamed for the incident.

[@MedicineWolf]

Excellent videos on Bridger, you have a new subscriber. On the attack by the Cheyennes and Arapaho in ‘42; I’ve also seen several mentions of an attack in August of ‘43 by the same group, perhaps the same event misdated? Either way, I’m very curious about the (French?) renegade Louis Revere (if that’s the right spelling) that you mentioned involved this attack. Can you point me towards any info about him please? Not finding anything in my searches.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Honestly I wasn't able to find more but I'm intrigued too

[@kingofcapp]

After 5 am run down to lake with the pack, it's still snowing hard, power is out, but 5g strong. I'm forted up in bed with my huskies, plenty battery backup and blankets, wood stove fully stoked. Got nowhere else to be. Fresh Bloody Beaver Josh and life is good!

[@jonahhex8178]

I was about to make a comment about how these old timers were made out of tougher stuff than modern people. I still stand by that, but you seem to be an exception! I like to think I'm pretty tough, but I damn sure ain't running nowhere in the snow. 🥵

[@westt9030]

Excellent! it was storming here in South Dakota but it sunshine right now

[@westt9030]

@@jonahhex8178 you should try it. Dive into the wilderness.

[@jonahhex8178]

@@westt9030 I live in north Georgia. Ain't no snow to run in. Just mud. 😂

[@kingofcapp]

@@jonahhex8178 the run is on a sled, The dogs do the work, I just hold on and look like the little brother from a Christmas story. But it was cold as a cheerleader's heart fr

[@scottmcley5111]

Hey Josh, heard around 9:30 you mention the Mormon trail going through Missouri, not sure about Missouri, but it does go through southern Iowa from Keokuk to Council Bluffs. 🤙

[@AlmostHomestead]

I'm a descendant of Brigham Young. My great Grandfather Charles Paul Held was married to Mabel Alexandra Young Daughter of Brigham young Junior. I'm not a Mormon but found this story fascinating. Especially since I have recently watched historical videos/stories of Jim Bridger.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Very cool!

[@marthahines1979]

Great history. Utah is my home of the heart, been to Bridger National Forest many times. Love learning more about this man. Greetings from Seattle.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Greetings! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@donc9751]

Excellent series on Jim Bridger!!! Thanks for including the links to the other podcast that your alter-ego said not to check out in the show notes!!! 😅

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Ha thanks

[@Doc.Holiday]

I have been to Ft. Bridger in SW WY twice. I just watched American Primevil about Bridgers struggle with the Mormons. I’d be interested in your take on the historical relevance of the Movie. One of several exceptions I had with it was the geography.

[@David-s3g6o]

You could put a picture of the man in the moon if you wanted to as far I'm concerned.You still tells a good story about a part of history,keep doing it!

[@stevehdd9929]

2 minutes in and I'm subscribing. Glad we found y'all

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Thanks!

[@rogerironhide4220]

Love it Josh, great show & outstanding content as usual 🤠🐎💯🍻

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Much appreciated!

[@StevenMMan]

This is a segment of Bridger life I am quite opinionated about. I don't see Brighim Young as the Saint made of him. In my perspective he became the very incarnate of the very persecution that the mormons were fleeing from. And effectively became an Al Capone style leader of a a crime family. Willing to do what ever means necessary to protect his own stranglehold on his own peace of commerce and empire. The whole thing was a rouse base on ol gabe being willing to trade with all comers, including local tribes and worse to young, the US army. So willing to protect his own sanctuary he would burn a prairie to starve out any who dare to come his way. I ordered the events leading to and including the massacre at mountain meadows. History still debates as to if he sent word rescinding his order, or if he ever regretted his own actions. I have no doubt he maintained his own version of a hit squad.

[@montymangum3214]

Bullshit.

[@StevenMMan]

@@montymangum3214 ok witch? The historically accurate events of history, or who the badie's are?

[@montymangum3214]

@@StevenMMan The mis-characterizations in your historical opinion.

[@darbyohara]

@@StevenMMan he was a crooked scumbag. About as far from the godly believe he professed to be

[@BuckyTJones]

I noticed that you highlighted this video with a portrait of a Mormon with no mention as to who he was. Maybe Orin Porter Rockwell was a Mennonite.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

I did that just to irritate you, Bucky

[@swirvinbirds1971]

​@@WildWestExtravaganzato be fair, not being familiar with this subject my 1st thought was that was Bridger. I see your next video on him does use his picture. Just a little confusing for us that don't know any better

[@beesmitty3435]

Is it supposed to be a joke.. he has the name written across his head..

[@donspain7888]

as always,great story telling and research!

[@dalemeyer8207]

I lived in Utah for 20 years.... 1988 S.L.C. was the Greatest City ever . The world discovered Utah and just invaded by people moving there. S.L.C. changed bad.... I moved out of there in 2006. Thanks 😎

[@claudiaclaudia936]

STOLEN LAND =skin walker ☠

[@tywalraven4936]

Californians ruin everything

[@Mr.Marketing]

While I’m definitely guilty of thoughtlessly griping about the sustained Mormon influence both socially and politically. What I can say is that Salt Lake City has changed a lot since 2006. Immigration is definitely at a high, however the majority are all moving into new houses, in new towns, far away with little voting influence to the nearby locals. I can say that Salt Lake City, in comparison to other “blue enclaves in red states” has a far better living standards, cleanliness, public services, maintenance, job opportunities, and urban homelessness management. Due in large part to that very same, sustained Mormon influence. To sum it up in one sentence: Liberty Park is NICE now, if you can imagine.

[@MantecaCa-f6w]

@@Mr.Marketing liberty park is nice now? What a twist I was 8 years old and lived there in 1985. My parents told me never ride my bike to liberty park and didn’t explain why until I was older lol

[@Mr.Marketing]

@@MantecaCa-f6w It’s the same with “Sugarhood park” where I was born in 2001. It was in an awful state during my childhood and we moved out. Now at 22 I’m paying insane rent to live in the immaculately gentrified Sugarhouse. The City very forcefully condensed the homeless into like 3 blocks downtown and a portion of State Street. The moral implications of which are uncomfortable, but it made SLC’s habitability skyrocket in only 5 years. Downside is you can’t pilot a novelty paddle-boat through salmonella water in either park anymore.

[@floridawoman25]

He's on Netflix in PRIMEVAL. Excellent casting . It's about the mormon militia massacre. Mormons trying to buy his fort.

[@benblair7510]

@@floridawoman25 I enjoyed the show myself. But like most things. It was Hollywood rendition of history

[@DgDanger72]

Such a great series my friend!

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@deborahchesser7375]

There was a quote about JB in Jeremiah Johnson, I can’t remember what it was.

[@westt9030]

These episodes get exponentially better because of other episodes! I love this

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Thank you

[@majcorbin]

DAVENPORT, IOWA DAD JOKE of the day [Q] what are,the most mentally deranged, INSECTS,known to mankind? [A] why, the LUNAR-TICK's,of course

[@Deepwatr1]

Great channel. Glad I found it.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Glad you enjoy it

[@joshhowat6269]

Fantastic channel Thank you

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Thank you

[@thelostone6981]

First off, no one knows how to pronounce Seedskadee….except the 2-3 people who manage the place. But as someone who’s from this region, I’m loving the pronunciations. Wrong on a few, (Wasatch instantly comes to mind) but I seriously and sincerely love hearing people pronounce these names. The town and county Tooele is my favorite. And in all fairness, my Norwegian in laws laugh at me when I try to pronounce words such as “Bodø”. And I do mean laugh! 😂 Next, for history’s sake, Young’s men destroying Bridget’s whiskey one sip at a time. (Your joke was hilarious!) Modern day mormons don’t drink booze, but Brigham Young had a brewery himself. In fact, close to the campus of the University of Utah is “Brewery Hill” and the Anniversary Inn occupies part of the old building. Finally, I really enjoyed this! I do live in Utah, am of first-in-Utah pioneer stock (traded in the magic underwear years ago), and I enjoyed this. You’re a great storyteller!

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Hey thanks! I'm working on my pronounciations haha

[@thelostone6981]

@@WildWestExtravaganza It’s tough with so many different language influences to pronunciations correct so I hope I didn’t come across as mean or condescending. The important part is your style and you absolutely kept my attention! Can’t wait to listen to more these. Cheers.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

you didn't come off that way at all!

[@OceanusHelios]

I'm a Wyomingite. I was born here. I went to Fort Bridger by age nine (the second one near Mountain View). I ate hard tack and pemican. I camped in Bridger National Forrest (in the area where they relocated the dangerous grizzlies from Yellowstone to) also as young as age eight. Mostly I just wanted to comment: We Wyomingites pronounce Seedskadee exactly like you pronounced it, so no, you didn't butcher it. I fished on the Green River often. I camped in Green River lakes. I learned how to throw a tomahawk and make it stick. Thank you for being aware enough to call them the Lakota and not Souix (that translates as enemy). My first apartment was on Bridger Ave. in Rock Springs, WY, where Butch Cassidy got his nick name. My first job was at the Outlaw Inn, which was decorated in themes of the Old West. Usually I will harangue folks if they can't say things in videos with a decent amount of historical accuracy, and this is pretty good as far as I know. (And with the Old West, as far as we know is about as good as it can get). I know the local history of where I was raised. Yes, there is dark history there, too and there weren't any saints, no matter who calls themselves a saint. I've been to the Wedding of the Waters, a Shoshone ritual in Shoshone Wyoming. I've also partied in Bill Cody's motel in Cody, WY on New Years Eve, one year. I got the crap scared out of me while standing on a creek bank when I was a boy. A giant beaver swam right out from under the overhang I was on. I've seen living beaver dens. I've had a grizzly come into my camp while we were camping (they stink like rotten death, spoiled urine, and fecal matter all rolled up together). Thank goodness there wasn't an issue that time. We would have all been lunch because it was about 3 AM when that happened and we were sleeping, but saw the tracks and greasy red hair dangling on the tree trunk the grizzly had debarked and clawed at. I might have camped and fished in the same place where Jim had caught beaver. It was a good spot called Boulder Basin that was very deep in the mountains and very difficult to get to. There are still re-enactment kinds of Rendezvous in Pinedale, WY. I never wore Buckskins or had all of the gear, but I did learn a few skills along the way. Would you or I be able to live off the land in that area? Well, yes, and no. Yes, for a time, and no...not comfortably or what I would call living. It is miserable once it goes past four weeks of living off of the land. The adventure loses its charm. So Bridger must have been very stalwart and not used to comfort of any kind, or knew how to make the best of it. Without supplies? Very very meager living if you don't have what you need to make hard tack, or some pemican. Jerky will only take you so far. You'll need carbohydrates or you won't make it through the winter. There is a Cora, WY and I am not sure if that is named after his daughter or not. Oh, and I've seen and walked in the ruts of the actual Oregon Trail where it cuts through. It's really odd to hear somebody covering so many places and names to me....that are my home. I've lived in several places in WY, camped and fished in many, and am aware of the local histories, often. It's speculation on why Bridger didn't warn the Donners more. I think the simplest answer? They were "too smart" to listen to him. Also, Bridger wouldn't have been the kind to tell somebody else their business. That would have been out of character and it wasn't a healthy way to approach conversation (and still isn't in WY). The culture here has changed in my lifetime. Now Wyoming seems to have forgotten who it is, and is too busy being a parrot for Texas and a parrot for Utah. It's crazy, and won't come to good results for Wyoming. BTW, I am a fourth generation Wyomingite, and not a Republican. Wyoming used to be far more independent and apart from the rest to be so partisan. We've always been physically and mentally detached from the larger winds of change until we turned out to be a hidey hole for every neo-nazi outfit that wanted to LARP in the woods.

[@levity90]

@@OceanusHelios Any advice for someone wanting to move out there? I'm used to big city life but I can't take it anymore. But I also feel clueless and out of my element moving somewhere like Wyoming. Where to find work? Affordable housing? Etc

[@donollerton4809]

The picture above is Porter Rockwell not a picture of Bridger An ancestor of mine was a member of Bridger’s company. And left to marry an LDS woman.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Was Porter Rockwell a Mormon?

[@donollerton4809]

@@WildWestExtravaganza Yes and a bodyguard of Joseph Smith and Later Brigham Young. Though by the period that the story is from he would have been much older. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porter_Rockwell

[@donollerton4809]

Really enjoyed the video. And Yes Im an Elder in the Church of Jesus Christ of Later day Saints. We all have to understand History is to learn from. People are people. Even Prophets. We don’t get to choose what we want and throw out the rest. That said not everything written is the whole truth. I appreciate you explaining that from the LDS side it may well have appeared that Bridger was a gun runner for the native tribes in the area. I believe in a way he was though Like you mentioned. Probably not with the intent of arming them for war. I once belonged to the American Mountain Man Association. It was a rule to go no where without your firearm. Doing so brought much derision and many practical jokes.. In the 1830s Mountain men and others might cut short their days by being caught without a firearm during a trip to relieve one’s self or just stepping away from the security of camp, bears, wolves, and any number of people with bad intentions abounded. So of course these were much sought after items.

[@jeffspicoli5399]

He sure did have psycho eyes 👀 . Porter Nutwell lol

[@SuperTmoo]

@@jeffspicoli5399 Yes...A Charles Manson style killer.

[@jordanwright5289]

The man picture in the beginning is NOT NOT Jim Bridger. The man pictured is Porter Rockwell, the destroying Angel of Mormondom.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Did anyone claim that the man pictured was Jim Bridger?

[@jordanwright5289]

@@WildWestExtravaganza it's your main pic with a heading about Bridger.... Yeah slightly misleading

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

What's the rest of the title say?

[@jordanwright5289]

@@WildWestExtravaganza also my point, Orrin Rockwell is hardly a face of Mormons. Actually he wasn't considered a devout Mormon. A picture of the man giving the Mormons orders would have been better suited. Brigham Young.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Fair enough

[@irishhorse6962]

I am just curious why you have a photo of Porter Rockwell showing while speaking of Jim Bridger through a good part of your video?

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Three reasons 1) It’s a really cool photo and it compels potential viewers to click play 2) this video was part 3 in a 5 part series. There are not 5 photos of Jim Bridger in existence and 3) Rockwell was a Mormon, and he knew and interacted with Bridger during the period being discussed. The video prior to this uses an image of a Blackfeet warrior. So far nobody has pointed out that the warrior is not Bridger.

[@muskycoop]

Stopped at the Big Sandy crossing at present day Farson on our way back to Utah from Cody. There are a couple of markers there that record an account where both Bridger and Young, with their respective party’s, discussed at length the inhabitability of the Great Salt Lake valley. Apparently Bridger told Young he would “give $1,000 for the first bushel of corn grown in the Salt Lake Valley.” Would have loved to hear that conversation. 😅 Maybe Jim wasn’t good on his word? It doesn’t elaborate. An interesting account of two strong-willed men that helped shape the west.

[@robertmclean9737]

I Livid Close to Bridger Pass. He had a Trading post at Mt. View Wildoming. Andb the Mormons Burnt it down. Floated the Green from Fontenelle to Sissikedee several times. Cheers !?

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Very cool

[@brentanderson1549]

Also, unless I missed it, I would love to hear your account of Jim Bridger's relationship with Hugh Glass, which whom may be great subject matter for another episode or series.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

I spoke about it on the first video in this series, Ashley's 100

[@RichardSpeights]

Interesting video, well presented. One thing: Wreak, as in wreaked havoc, is pronounced as reek.

[@silkkdread]

As a Historian I must say Nice commentary lol I had to sub to the channel 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Hey thanks!

[@silkkdread]

@@WildWestExtravaganza holy crap you replied ‼️ no seriously I commend your research and knowledge combined with your dialogue brother I’m honored 👍🏾💯

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

I'm honored you think so, thanks again

[@pktheviking]

You used a picture of Orrin Porter Rockwell for the thumbnail. Have you thought about doing a video about him?

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Yep, I hope to in the future

[@willremy5142]

I like your quick pace summary of events. My critique is your pronunciation of Nevada. The first a sounds like when you pronounce "at" or "ham" not "ah."

[@ventarfield7115]

I threw on American Primeival last night and was thrilled to find out the plot is all about this. Fascinating people and time period.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

How are you liking it?

[@FNRLxWILLIE]

The show seems very factual based. But I’m not quite knowledgeable on the Wild West/pioneer genre. I was googling character names as I went along every episode and besides a few names, it seemed accurate. I’d recommend it for sure.

[@popscoulter7587]

Great video. Would love to hear one on John Colter as well.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

I did one a long time ago that's now only available on my Patreon. I do plan on rerecording it, though

[@timmynormand8082]

Ever heard oh Lewis wetzel

[@sartainja]

I fell out of bed laughing when you said to break out the Caffeine-Free Diet Cokes at the start of the video. If you ever went into a “Stop-N-Rob” in Utah you get the joke.

[@mugzyhillbillie6284]

Is this the same Jim Bridger that was with Hugh glass?

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Possibly. The young guy with Hugh Glass is only recorded as being named "Bridges" not Bridger. The verdict is still out.

[@82566]

Just watched American Primeval had to come get Bridger refresher 😊.Great job btw new sub

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Heck yeah

[@roadtrippin2781]

"Grieving Parents & Orphaned Children" Would make a great band name.

[@rezlogan4787]

I grew up around Mormons, all of whom had stable nice families with successful happy kids. So when I read about the bands of white savages who terrorized travelers through Utah, the strongmen who carried cutdown belly guns, and the alleged abuses and rapes, I couldn’t understand it. That is until I worked with a Mormon family that WASN’T nice. The dad carried guns openly around the house and was a tall massive man who was either grumpy or enraged. His wife, child, and everyone they met were terrified of him. One time I heard he shouted at his son until the kid literally wet himself in public. This was a common occurrence. The wife admitted she often encouraged him to go on week long hunting trips with friends because she was worried about their safety. He would return from living in the desert with several kills every time. His kid ended up with similar anger management issues and became a threat to his community, vandalizing property, assaulting people, and stealing. I fully understand the history after knowing that family.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

I dunno, there are good and bad people in all groups

[@enclavehere.2281]

I've been all over the world, see good and bad among all people. Even the best field of grain has a few weeds in it.

[@sanusmotus1696]

Sounds like your typical overly religious loons

[@ChadMichael33]

@@rezlogan4787 you are fucking stupid. Stupid as saying because the Pope rapes and ears children, every Catholic, Jew, Muslim and Christian is going to hell… Hahahah, because they are….

[@rockysmith4257]

Yes the Whitmans were in the Oregon Territory, but their mission is located in SE Washington near Walla Walla and Fort Walla Walla nearby.

[@blessedwithchallenges9917]

Subbed - those Whitmans were an amazing couple.

[@Piecespatpaints]

the caffeine free diet coke jab earned my subscribe

[@nickdial8528]

The problem with these stories from history, is that we're making a lot of speculation and assumptions based on things that happened hundreds of years ago with poor record keeping. When you say "there's no evidence of this, there's no evidence of that," that doesn't mean it didn't happen. we don't have a lot to work with. Hell, the media can't even get stories right today that happened yesterday or within hours, so these types of story's need to be taken with a massively huge grain of salt... Or in this case, an entire lake made of salt. 😅

[@nickdial8528]

OK my only issue, is that you make a lot of stupid comments about Brigham Young being paranoid or cult like and blah blah blah, the problem is that these people were driven out of their homes and killed and raped and beaten and all kinds of horrible things, The governor of Missouri passed the mormon extermination act, making it legal which was completely unconstitutional obviously, to kill mormons. so you can't really sit there and say that was paranoia on their part. You're also giving benefit of the doubt to bridges when it came to his recommendation of trails without any evidence, but then turn around and make disparaging assumptions about other people in the story with equally no evidence, it would seem that you have a biased that is shown. There are equally many people and writings that would say this was out of character for Brigham Young as well, so you're completely taking one side of the issue and being biased in the way you're framing the story, the truth is we have no idea what really happened.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

I agree

[@georgie-jp]

I misread the title as Jeff Bridges vs the Mormons. Not sure which would be more interesting

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Ha

[@jessef88]

My dads side is from a Mormon community. My grandfather "left the farm" as he says but he told me about barn dances and bareknuckle boxing the Ukrainians. Granted my families farm wasnt the most popular in the neighbourhood and also brought in automobiles which back then apparently wasnt that popular with the other farmers. Rip Grandpa you taught me about bein a man and I wont forget it

[@TheDoorspook11c]

So Jeds dad named him after the fighter Jim Bridger...Red Dawn for those who didn't know.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

WOLVERINES

[@bethbartlett5692]

​@@WildWestExtravaganza Perspective Clarity ... Based on your description: 📚 If one applies Discernment, rather than Judgemental, defining the Behaviors and identifying their roots, what emerges is the energ8es that are housed in the Human Lower Mind 9r Human Higher Mind. By category: Bridger: Communicates Disires of Cooperation - Higher Mind Attempts to use the Established Legislative System for Solutions and Resolutions - (Higher Mind/Personal and Collective Harmony) Mormon Administrative Individual(s): Commentaries of Opinion and Accusations, Blame - Lower Mind Actions of Aggressions, force, to bring harm or death - (Lower Mind/Overt Power Act, Personal Power, Potential Greed; Group Power) Government: Usurped the request for assistance to resolve through Legal Means, "taking of anothers property for the gains of power and financial gains - (Lower Mind/Overt Greed) You determine the values involved in Higher Mind vs Lower Mind traits and behaviors. Defining behaviors absent of Judging the individual, allows one to apply compassion, seek solutions, avoids one delving into their own Lower Mind. Apparently the Mountain Man had mastered his Thinking and evolved to his Higher Mind, (that would be in l8ne with the original teachings of Yeshua/Jesus) ☀️ Best Thoughts ... Beth Bartlett Sociologist/Behavioralist and Historian

[@enclavehere.2281]

Hey your picture is of Porter Rockwell, the Destroying Angel. He's an interesting character, you should do a podcast on him. After returning to Nauvoo, Illinois from being held without trial for 9 months in a Missouri jail, he was emaciated, his hair and beard were long and no one recognized him. His life long friend and ally Joseph Smith, the prophet of the Saints, promised him very publicly that if he never cut his hair the weapons of Porter's enemies would never harm him. No matter what you think of Joseph Smith, this prophecy came true as Rockwell lived a long and dangerous life as a frontiers man, soldier, and lawman.

[@aaronzimmer2561]

That is a picture of Porter Rockwell, not Jim Bridger. But you do a fantastic job. Keep it up!

[@troyreidhead498]

That's a pic of porter Rockwell I believe?

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Correct

[@scottlund4562]

Whoops, thought this would be a Travis Tritt video based on the thumbnail. 👍

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

I wish!

[@scottlund4562]

@@WildWestExtravaganza lol 🤠

[@ScottJB]

As an Ex-Mormon with Mormon roots in Utah going back to the beginning in 1847, you nailed it. Most modern mainstream Morms are great people. The Church and its leadership are effed up, especially the early leaders from this time.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Sounds like a lot of religions

[@PNWCagey-Dub]

The Marcus Whitman monument and the mission is a cool place to see. There’s also an old settlement there that still has the old original cabins by the museum.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Oh cool!

[@PNWCagey-Dub]

@@WildWestExtravaganza it is. There’s an outdoor amphitheater where they do old western plays. And then there’s the native museum as well. Lots to see there. Close to Palouse country where you talked about as well as the Oregon trail. You can go rent wagons to camp in and ride the trail. And it’s all surrounded by beautiful mountains and prairie (then desert but no one says that part 🤫😂) it’s a worthwhile trip.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

I definitely need to make a trip up there one day.

[@mitchhodges9789]

I live just south of seedskadee, and you nailed the pronunciation!

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Finally!!!

[@venturini09]

That picture is not Jim Bridger, it is Porter Rockwell.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

What’s the title of the video?

[@nospam-hn7xm]

Isn't that a picture of Port Rockwell?

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

It is. The episode prior to this I used an image of a Blackfeet warrior.

[@kevinfalkner1624]

Explanation for Mormons trying to blame the Indians sept 11 1857 mountain Meadows massacre.

[@Rhyderseefried]

That's Porter Rockwells photo not Jim bridger

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

For real????????

[@bauhnguefyische667]

200 years ago we traveled in wagons drawn by horses, fastest way. Now you can travel by jet and do that in hours with your furniture a day or two behind. Those people were tough, at least the ones who made it.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Yessir

[@kip2703]

I enjoy history of the mountain men. It's easy to give those we admire in history the benefit of the dought but I find it troubling you're benefit of the dought is so one sided after all when entering the comment section we are asked to leave our politics outside. What i find troubling is your character assination of Brigham Young, never considering the difficulties they had been through and were going through, but it's your channel and you can say what you want. But if you can give Jim the benefit of a dought dispite the differing opinions historians have on him perhaps you could give the early members the same courtesy. Just a thought

[@beesmitty3435]

Can I ask if you are currently in the cult that you are asking to be viewed differently?

[@kip2703]

@@beesmitty3435 that question shows your lack of real knowledge and faith

[@jchirschfeld1101]

@kip2703 Well, leaving religious beliefs aside, Brigham Young was a tyrant that persecuted the mountain men. He sponsored the campaign to take over the river ferries and put it into Mormon control. He also pushed for the prosecution of Bridger and forced him to sell his fort.

[@ADoveTailJoint]

“Way to eat all freakin chips Kip!” Kolob is calling you back home sir..

[@ShellyGraham-r1o]

Caffeine free diet coke? 😂 Nah, what's the sense? 🙂🙂 Love what you are doing! Take care

[@pattywolford]

Excellent. New subscribed.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Welcome aboard!

[@ts109]

Religion might make some people better, it also makes some people self righteous. Its also not an excuse for doing really bad things to other people.

[@somenotherdude333]

@@ts109 When you see a man with a great deal of religion displayed in his shop window, you may depend upon it that he keeps a small stock of it within. -CH. Spurgeon

[@deltonwatts9726]

Thanks for sharing!

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Thanks for watching!

[@jamesivie5717]

Couldn't you find a picture of Jim Bridger? That picture is, as you probably know, is that of Porter Rockwell.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Read the title please

[@lou_-mg7mb]

Josh, well done as always. I think you told the truth here based on the sources. Bridger was an impressive guy. But he may have done wrong by the Donner party. He didn’t pass on the note. KZbin is still hammering the ads… I know you already know.