Jim Cornette & Brian Last Discuss The Jimmy Snuka Episode Of Dark Side Of The Ring

[@danielmarkle9000]

I want a Dark Side Of The Ring episode about The rivalry between Vince Russo and Jim Cornett. And let the two of them say whatever the hell they want to say. That would be one hell of a funny episode

[@Aphelion_k9f]

They'd have to edit out 90% of Cornette's dialogue

[@hkh7681]

You clearly didn't watch the Brawl For All episode...

[@johndoe-dl6qo]

Hopefully for the 4th season

[@davey3884]

There is no rivalry, its just one bitter old man holding a 30 year grudge. Lmao

[@toprope_]

@@davey3884 def no rivalry but a shitload of people besides jim hate russo and aren’t afraid to shoot on him because of how far he’s fallen in the business and the bs he wrote

[@blacknapalm2131]

Snuka : Vince I just beat Nancy to death with my bare hands Vince : *But you're still coming to work right pal?*

[@raniaraheel1061]

Vince is innocent u moron all those ppl accusing Vince for horrible shit was fake Vince killed the territory s so there where many people after him tryna ruin his life

[@JonnySublime]

Vince a psychopath I can only imagine what that guy did to women behind closed doors

[@denistuohy2535]

@@JonnySublimeno kidding

[@deepblue8143]

​@JonnySublime you act like you know him personally. Innocent till proven guilty.

[@Courtneylynntucker]

@@deepblue8143stop defending woman beaters and educate yourself before opening your mouth

[@justinsayswtf]

I'm back at the point where, every time there's a story or development in wrestling, I look forward to hearing what Jim Cornette thinks about it.

[@lawrenceyoung72]

After every episode of the dark side I have to KZbin what he says about it.

[@theunknown3537]

Same lol

[@SDG.12]

McMahon is one of the entertainment world's most underrated monsters. What a week.

[@Dr170]

He is a genius and a demon.

[@MDMR1]

not anymore

[@theeverchosen1504]

@Inti Cheveyo Coming from people who still shit in the street...

[@garethrevell5873]

@@Dr170 is he fuck a genius. I could of booked wrestling from 2001 onwards a hell of alot better than that control freak weirdo could. Vince is a fucking satanic fruit loop weirdo who wanted to do an incest storyline with his own daughter, has been accused of sexual assault many times, has covered up ring boys getting raped and taken advantage of, and has openly bragged to wrestlers about his own first gay experience WTF??? and god only knows what else. But I bet its 1 long ass fucking list. Fucking genius😂😂😂 no just a guy with shit loads of money and bought his way into the 'special club'. To get into that club you gotta do some depraved shit in the first place. Genius? Give me a fucking break!

[@finalstrikeosrs]

@Inti Cheveyo people like you dont deserve to have an opinion and need to stay away from the internet with your poisoned mindset.

[@jonathanturbide2232]

LMAO Corny dressed as Columbo....another memorable thumbnail by Travis. 😂😂👍

[@Dr170]

I imagine as a criminal investigator Corny would be more Monk than Columbo, but aye.

[@tvtitlechampion3238]

@@Dr170 couldn't be any worse than the Sheriff

[@randomreviews1461]

Lol I just got that

[@ST-LEO]

@@Dr170 nah he'd definitely be columbo....just with southern sass

[@nygreek743]

Not too many would get that lol

[@frozyre7854]

The autopsy report and Snuka's inconsistent story telling pretty much sealed the fact that he was involved in the murder. He began his story with how him and Nancy wrestled in bed, which for all we know, could've been a cover up to "oh yeah, I was actually abusing her because I'm a coked up superhuman wrestler." Then it turned from that into "oh, we drove on this highway and she went to take a leak and I hurried her and she slipped and fell." which was a leap from what he originally told. Nobody recalled having traveled with Snuka or Nancy on said highway, the police did a poor job in calling out Snuka on his bullshit by not driving him to the scene of his story. By the time they finally got Snuka in trial, it was too late. He was in horribly bad shape, his mental issues caught up with him and he later died from his illnesses. Snuka basically got off with murder for so long, because of his stardom and lies. There's no question about it. Vince protected him because top star of his business being jailed or targeted for murder, would look bad for his business. Of course he has to protect that and there's no reason to doubt, that Vince has had a say in whether or not Snuka would be tried or set free. Snuka honestly deserved more than that coconut to the head that Roddy Piper hit him with.

[@jamesgorski7551]

Maybe a 4 ton anvil?

[@dildonius]

​@@jamesgorski7551Or a fucking bullet. And a .50cal bullet at that.

[@jamesteegardner2273]

Yup! Anybody who got their panties in a bunch over a white man hitting a Pacific Islander in the head with a coconut should go out of their way to apologize to Roudy Roddy Piper's 4 children! Superfly had that, and a whole lot more shit coming!!! It says a lot about us, and the society we created that has such a flawed and biased judicial system. We basically allowed a man to escape the consequences of murdering his wife in cold blood because he made wrestling promoters a lot of money! That's horrible, and we should all be ashamed of ourselves!

[@doubles7533]

The Tonga Kid definitely seemed like he knew more than he was letting on.

[@kurtluttrell4013]

He obviously did, you are right. He claimed one version of the story in the car, and then is informed that snuka said something totally different, and you could see how he realized he screwed up and he just walks away from the interview. That was damning as hell.

[@mykoniichistorychannel]

Ya. I didn’t buy a word that came out of his mouth.

[@EazySCT]

I have never seen somebody completely crack the way that cop did after they told him that somebody else was in the car. That was the most guilty blubbering I've ever seen of someone in my entire life

[@trd858]

my thoughts exactly. he had this look on his face when it was revealed a third person was in the car "oh shit, i'm busted."

[@RealTakerslady]

EazySCT Crooked

[@MrSFblack]

That poked the biggest hole in the story Jimmy Snuka gave to the cops

[@remeeelikefidgets3639]

It was they way he went there was another smirking then when said his face change was more truth then anything

[@mykoniichistorychannel]

His was the face crack of the century.

[@bobquinlan4025]

Brian was absolutely right about the police chief.

[@lino580nunya5]

Bob Quinlan he’s crooked as fuck

[@franksullivan7110]

Yeah I wasn't sure if was a work.

[@pronkb000]

Chief Wiggum had more credibility than that guy.

[@franksullivan7110]

@@pronkb000 lol

[@vanyadolly]

I was really expecting better lying from a professional.

[@hueyseale4253]

Jimmy killed her plain and simple.

[@AJ-xv7oh]

I really want a Dark Side of the Ring on Dynamite Kid.

[@ash80510]

I agree. Very sad story. My favorite wrestler to ever watch

[@pvblivscornelivsscipio]

Same

[@AnsticePalo]

@ This is season 2. So season 3.

[@tvtitlechampion3238]

There's a pretty good doc on KZbin. It gets onto his early days, Japan, all that. It may not be produced by Vice, but I recall that it wasn't bad.

[@markkeegan7535]

That would take at least three two hour episodes!!

[@gerardparker4220]

The police chief, when he was asked about Tunga Kid’s statement, was so uncomfortable.

[@vanyadolly]

You'd think he would have learned to lie more convincingly during interrogations from work. Apparently not.

[@gqn2]

Can Vice just do a season of Dark Side of Vince McMahon. The man has been involved with almost every tragic incidents of pro-wrestling history.

[@johnchapiewski2947]

I almost feel like that would need to be several seasons of this show!

[@napoleonsolo5929]

You won't get that until after Vince is dead. Freemason or not, VKM has too much power and influence. Any kind of TV doc now would be mostly a white wash.

[@kovy274hart]

I would so be for that. But i doubt they can until he's gone.

[@kovy274hart]

@@napoleonsolo5929 exactly. You nailed it.

[@franksullivan7110]

@@kovy274hart it could be a seasonal docudrama.

[@jenisia3600]

Also worth mentioning: that during the Benoit episode i expected more time focused on Nowinski and the concussion aspect of it. He only got like 5 minutes max. And on the Brody episode they never interviewed Savio Vega.

[@michiganjack1337]

Yeah Chris pretty much spearheaded this whole CTE thing.

[@ForWhatItsWorth_]

They interviewed Atlas and fucking Colter... people who knew something but didnt reveal too much

[@Enginshim]

rockoz kind of like Conrad Thompson?

[@brandonp3455]

1) You don’t just get to just pick who you interview - they have to agree to it. Did Savio not agree to an interview? You seem to be in the know about this so maybe you can answer that for me. 2) The docco was about the Benoit murders, not CTE. They interviewed Nowinski and his history and relation to CTE, mentioned football players who had it and what happened to them, covered the autopsy of Benoit’s brain and how far gone he was, and you see the gravity of the revelation in the comments of the other interviewers - Chavo in particular. What more can you do on it? How much more time does it need? How would you focus more time on it? I thought the Benoit episode was one of the better episodes, particularly part II. I don’t see a lot of the merit in your criticisms here.

[@brandonp3455]

@@ForWhatItsWorth_ Likely the only people willing to be interviewed. Which is why Abdullah was involved even though he added very little to anything (and wasn’t nearly as reliable). I feel like there’s a lack of understanding of who this series is for (it ain’t for rabid wrestling fans, if you already know about the events, then there aren’t going to be a lot of revelations for you).

[@levimcglinchey5843]

That police officer was full on L.A. Noire face

[@mattkemerait]

That police chief indeed looked as shady as humanly possible.

[@SmaugUKA]

And kept looking up in the direction people are known to do if they're trying to lie. You tend to look in the opposite direction than he did when you're trying to recall something. Plus all the backtracking he was doing. Shady as fuck.

[@SmaugUKA]

@Joe Greene I know part of that also deals with if the person is left handed or right handed in regards to what direction a person tends to look towards. Maybe it's been "debunked", but it still rings true more often than not with people that aren't good at lying. Not to mention the CIA and FBI usually deal with people that are trained to lie as opposed to not. It's circumstancial yes, but it is still a useful tool to think about when talking to someone. I never said it's guaranteed or foolproof (I continually used the word Tend), but it is something most people end up doing, and can be used as a possible "tell".

[@TheJPworld]

​@@SmaugUKA Anybody could tell he was hiding something because his demeanour changed in a heartbeat from relaxed to uncomfortable the moment he was told about the Tonga Kid being there. IDK why everybody is playing the "behavorial psychologist" like there are "subtle" clues or something to go on. It was pretty obvious.

[@SmaugUKA]

@@TheJPworld Yup. It was very obvious by how he reacted/acted. Very shady as fuck.

[@TheForeverRanger]

My bullshit detector went off after the second time he opened his mouth.

[@polopopolo2197]

Tonga Kid: “ I don’t remember her name” Interviewer: Nancy TK: “ Oh. Yeah that’s right” Right before that you told us Snuka was your mentor but you don’t remember your mentor’s girlfriends name? Right

[@frozyre7854]

Tonga Kid kinda annoyed me in the episode. He was just there to praise Snuka.

[@henrikschmidt3964]

@Mercenary Diaz I am sure Snuka had several girlfriends.

[@jurisfootrag]

Picture the biggest scumbag douche on earth... Tonga is a dead ringer for being their right-hand man.

[@bigkev3184]

Dude Tonga Kid is like all these loser Wrestler's who are nobody's like Bob Holly who want to try to get some Fame by putting themselves in the I was there in one of the most traggic story's like this or the Benoit Murders or I knew about the Montreal Screw-Job. But like Bob Holly who is a lying POS who claims he was suppose to hang and be at Benoit house the day he killed Nancy and talked too him and only like 4 hours later he killed Nancy like he knows his many hours later, Man I can't stand that fucking Guy and Guy's like him.. And he says he begged me to come over and he said No it's your day off but Chris said come over eat Dinner with us but he didn't want to ruin his day off LOL yeah a Piece of shit Bully like Spark plug Bobby Holly cared to spoil Dinner when he just like to beat on young kid's who didn't know what they were doing in a ring but in Brawl for All got his Ass knocked out showing he's a little bitch. But everyone close to Benoit already said that was Bullshit that he never hung out with Holly and Bob Holly never been to his house but he was gonna be that day he killed his Wife then his Son. He says Man I always wonder if I went they would of still be alive like I can't stand pieces of shit like this Guy. These are guy's who live to put themselves in historic places or situations and talk about angles like they were there. Just like Bruiser Brody's Death hundreds of Wrestler's like Ric Flair live talking about it put it in his book talk about it first hand and 17 year's later we find out Flair wasn't even there and 90% of them. Ànd it's like these Wrestler's say about each other they love to lie or they hear a story so many times that after year's they repeat it that they heard it then they where on there way there they were working the town, they were at the hotel when it happened or they were at the arena when it went down meaning they were at all these places any and every Wrestling legend is told some Wrestler's were there fir everything even ones they weren't Born yet for they remember being there LOL 😂. This Tonga like the Cop you can tell is full of shit and he didn't even know Nancy name and if he drove with them then all 3 of them would of been spotted by every other Wrestler's at The Town and arena before and when they arrived at the next Town and that hotel included hotel staff and witnessess other hotel stayers. And when Jimmy went to the Arena why didn't Tonga Kid go with him cuz they would all be working the house show and they did a horrible job covering the story. You just went from she had almost a broken neck and then Jimmy left to the Arena and they made it a night scene when he left the dumb bastard's. Well another Wrestler Tonga Kid someone else could of came in raped her and choked her killed her by accident so many different shit. But bottom Line Super Fly Killed her choked her out strangling her and then came to out of rage cuz wasn't she still breathing a little then died she was pretty much brain Dead. He choked her then tucked her in 🛏️ he is a straight out piece of shit if he did it which I can't speak ill of the Dead so I put if he did it but we know. So God don't sleep so let the 😈 🔥 burn well for eternity as you feel each inch of pain Jimmy you POS if you did take thus poor girls Life. Another Benoit except he's even more a pussy and pure Evil cuz there's No reason to Rob your 8 year old Son of his Life. Why didn't the piece of shit just go hang himself like he did if he was so Butt hurt by Eddie's Death. Like I have Lost loved ones dear friends the pain never fucking heals but I had and have a Wife and little Kids at the time babies to raise. And I have a family to take care of and yet your gonna blame your buddy dying for you killing your whole family get the fuck out of here. You could always tell Chris Benoit was a weird SOB I never liked him he never got over with me he was a Mid-carder at best along with Eddie and the rest of the other 2 No draws that came to WWF Dean malenko & Perry Saturn like be serious. But you can see Eddie had his problems but he had a good heart in him and like me and many others believe in God 🙏 only Jesus Christ can save you in this Life if you want to make it in the other which is the one that counts the most. But if Benoit died like Eddie did i feel 💯 percent sure Eddie would never kill his wife and kids and himself his whole family.

[@scurbag]

@@bigkev3184 Jesus that's a novel you wrote not a comment lol

[@coldsteelkv]

Cornettebo. "Just one more thing: TY,FY,Bye!" Artwork on point as always.

[@kasjones2146]

Cornettebo: oh just one more thing, Its funny, I just cant understand why you would hold your hands in pockets while you wrestle.

[@kovy274hart]

Brian nailed it. They left a lot of stuff out. But he is absolutely right about that chief of police. He was shady as hell. Don’t forget about Vince and the briefcase and how the case just went away. The After Dark was a joke. Mushnick was on for like 30 seconds. And you have Valentine not believing it and thinking it was an accident where maybe Jimmy shoved her into a bath tub. I almost get the impression these guys are so loyal because they don’t really know what the heck is going on behind closed doors. What you see on the outside isn’t always what is going on inside.

[@Rolo555]

You know damn well Vince McMahon is a Knights Templar.

[@victorynewz630]

Yeah i hate when jim talks about things he knows nothing about.. Stick to wrestling pinko commie.

[@mastersaber9183]

@@victorynewz630 kinda like wrestling fans do that when it comes to backstage stuff

[@janaidazam6763]

We need more of Jim singing through the tulips 😂

[@marcusmoore3598]

1,000% agree about that officer. How does he not remember what happened here? He didn’t know what was going on

[@gamesthatiplay9083]

I can understand people forgetting over 30 years, but that dude seemed so shady. Especially after seeing so many crime documentaries and seeing dirty cops outted, he felt as reserved as the other dirty cops that get proven to be dirty. Plus how can you forget a case with someone remotely famous that has a boss come in to talk for them instead of a lawyer?

[@tvtitlechampion3238]

Alzheimer's is not that convenient.

[@marcusmoore3598]

I am Supernaut I’m not saying he should remember every detail, but his demeanor and the way he acted like it was no big deal, says a lot about it. It didn’t take long of him talking to realize that

[@redxgamer1581]

@@marcusmoore3598 He also couldn't seem to look the camera straight on the whole time, he was always looking away trying not to make eye contact, I thought that seemed kind of suspicious.

[@Yin_Strider]

2 key statements stood out to me. 1- The mother allegedly getting a call from the promoter trying to pay her $25,000 over the death of her daughter. 2- The dismissivnes of the Chief of police saying "It was investigated as best it could" when asked how the autopsy report stated "This should be ruled as a homicide". This leads me to highly believe the police was paid to not prosecute because it was cheaper to pay people off in order to make the bigger $ from Snuka. I wonder who that promoter that called was...🤔 *Cough* VKM's name once again in shady business ...excuse me...might have the Rona. Lol Fatu goofed. Jimmy should be removed from HoF and VKM should be investigated.

[@liltwistofcaine]

Str1derx109x more likely paid today take it at face value, only one witness to give a statement’. Sadly, that’s still the policy of a lot of police stations when it comes to celebrity.

[@KillaKamBoi]

He walked in the police station with a briefcase & left without it, not even Snuka knew its contents

[@Yin_Strider]

@@KillaKamBoi Yup. Power baby!

[@gerardparker4220]

VKM wouldn’t have made the call himself. Also, the police knew how important that wrestling show was to the local economy so a bribe is not unreasonable to suspect.

[@scottashe984]

It's not the police. The DA is the person that would make the decision to pursue murder charges on a high profile case.

[@FallicIdol]

This is probably Vince's worst moment.

[@franksullivan7110]

Wasn't it on Sr's watch?

[@TippiGordon]

@@franksullivan7110 No. VKM bought out his dad in 1982, and Snuka murdered Argentino in 1983.

[@marcelmoreau2733]

Aside from Stephanies birth. Her existence and thus relationship with HHH ruined the business.

[@marcelmoreau2733]

@@TippiGordon Negligwntly Homicided Nancy not murdered There is a slight difference.

[@franksullivan7110]

@@TippiGordon Thanks got my dates mixed up then and thought I heard the dad paid people off and made Vince promise to look after Snuka. I guess I just figured Vince didn't take control until 84. Snuka was the main draw until then.

[@no_one01-5]

Chris Benoit, New Jack, Brawl for All.. "yeah it's okay" Snuka, "bs".

[@franksullivan7110]

I didn't like this one either.

[@gothchicksbongrips5712]

That's why Jim had Sullivan on, because the Benoit episode didnt miss anything 🙄

[@voidofopinion]

They also made the Moolah thing come across as if it was 1 girl telling stories and another that was just being salty. It had no bite.

[@franksullivan7110]

@@voidofopinion that one was still better than this.

[@SmaugUKA]

This is one of the first times I've heard Jim or Brian outright mention the Comments on KZbin. That's a step in the right direction. Means they're paying more attention to the KZbin Channel. The next step will be once they start taking Comments/Questions/Corrections from the Comment Sections. After that, it's actually replying to some in here. Congrats guys. You're getting better at this KZbin thing, and realizing not everything needs to come from your email address, or from Twitter. More people use and interact on KZbin than they do any other form of Social Media, and it's not even close. Thank you.

[@jessebarco8956]

Oh I hope not not including you but some of these comments I was losing iq points and thought I was having a stroke 😂

[@SmaugUKA]

@@jessebarco8956 That's when you sift through the bullshit and use the worthwhile ones. The same as what they do with the emails and Tweets already.

[@SmaugUKA]

@Joe Greene That helps yes. Definitely ignore them at least.

[@kovy274hart]

They should try to get Irv Mushnick on. That would be worth it.

[@SmaugUKA]

@@kovy274hart Also a good idea. Have Cornette become the Untold Stories From Dark Side of the Ring. Where he gets guests on who weren't properly used, or had very little to no say on the show itself to give their side of the story.

[@todhysteria]

Vince must still be paying that police officer because nigga said he ain’t snitching 😂

[@Project862006]

tonga kid knows for damn sure what happened but his love for jimmy just cant fathom it being true, you saw how badly he stuttered for him to say "nancy was killed"

[@michelledavidson8190]

Listening again after watch the Dark Side Of The Ring on this subject.

[@williamroberson5820]

Thank you Jim for everything you have done for wrestling over the years. I started watching wrestling in 1984 with Midsouth. You and the Midnight were my favorites. Love your videos. Watch each week. Thanks for giving the fans something to smile about in this tough time.

[@uriah9559]

did someone die?

[@justrick1]

Haven't watched nwa since you left Jim! Dark side of the ring is a great show and I'm so glad you're apart of so much of it and honest as hell!

[@BingalingDaDream]

Holy hell. Tony Atlus has all this trouble surrounding him. First, he's there when Bruiser Brody died and then his ex-wife was in the room who witnessed Snuka kill Nancy Argentina. Jesus...

[@jimbrown5091]

"Behind the T*tantron" (Wrestlelamia) did a pretty good episode on this issue 3 years ago, but before that I had never heard of this (I didn't start following wrestling until 1986).

[@maxxdahl6062]

Must not have been around most of the internet wrestling fandom. It was pretty well known since like the late 90's on various forums.

[@jimbrown5091]

@@maxxdahl6062 no...I wasn't doing forums and such

[@LuisReyes-pb4dt]

Max,I'm 52 and grew up watching WWF and there was always rumors about Snuka,and what he did to Nancy and other girlfriends.News traveled slow in that time because of not having internet then.

[@maxxdahl6062]

@@LuisReyes-pb4dt I'm 37, he did this. it was always rumored that he did among older fans. he is guilty of this and got off lucky.

[@LuisReyes-pb4dt]

Max,he got off because Mcmahon got him off.He was a drugged out dirtbag.Nancy Argentino is buried in Greenwood Cemetery, in Brooklyn NYwhere my grandparents are buried.when I was there last time I placed a flower on her grave.Everyone forgets about the victim

[@Toxicplyer]

They need to do a Dark Side story on Rick Rude. Starting from the time him, Animal and a few other soon to be wrestlers worked as bouncers at a bar in the early 80s.

[@franksullivan7110]

What was tragic about them working at Grandma B's.?

[@Wadzillia]

What's dark about being a bouncer? It's basically security.

[@davidmreyes77]

I don’t think you understand the concept of Dark Side of The Ring.

[@franksullivan7110]

@@davidmreyes77 yeah

[@marco74austin62]

Prove it

[@scottishdanny2432]

"Bruddah Vinnie got me off a murder charge, bruh."

[@TheeCoachg]

i feel like CTE is gonna be a scape goat for all the coke and roids wrestlers did. Snuka was already "slow" naturally,you can tell but the steroids and coke intensified that even more than a head injury imo

[@ferox965]

I see it all as a toxic mix.

[@TheeCoachg]

ferox965 Same

[@franksullivan7110]

Yep

[@maxxdahl6062]

Pretty much it's been used as a "It's not Benoits fault!" fallback from his fans to excuse absolutely everything.

[@maxxdahl6062]

@Don Johnson Doubt it.

[@SkipMDMan]

They did come right out and ask Fatu if he saw Nancy fall and he said no. What more do you need them to ask?

[@tw475]

he didn't see it and you also have to consider Snuka was likely on drugs, that could also explain many contradictions in his story. he might have done something, but really didn't remember.

[@trevorsnow4274]

They also asked him, do you remember snukas girlfriend name? He said no. His memory obviously isnt the sharpest.

[@danyalshaikh1478]

Damn we need a follow up on that Tony Atlas’ wife part

[@dquanissavage6287]

Awesome Shoot Today Jim!!🙌🐐🐐

[@mangrove]

Corny as Columbo!

[@jonathanturbide2232]

One more thing.....

[@alanunseld4942]

Jason Garfield Bardy i just have one more question 🤣🤣🤣

[@tvtitlechampion3238]

Mrs. Colombo is a big fan...

[@daleva187goligo]

Cornumbo

[@rusalexander1757]

If Benoit got a 2 parter that actually kinda glossed some shit, THIS case definitely warranted more info...

[@KB-hh8rt]

That's what I'm pissed about, Snuka got away with murder and Vince paid the cops off, also cops did sloppy work with the Benoit case. So what I've learned is police are corrupt and lazy lmao.

[@aidyn7758]

@@KB-hh8rt you needed the dark side of the ring to figure that out lmao?

[@HypervoxelRBX]

Snuka is a murderer

[@trevorsnow4274]

* allegedly*

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

Was.

[@MrAtomicDon]

I wish Piper threw the whole goddamn coconut tree on Snuka! The Superlie!

[@jasonkessler7321]

I don't know how old you are but I was 14 when that happened and he didn't have to because that killed Snukas career with the fans. Snuka had a long career where he was a good draw going back to his time in the late 1970s in San Francisco and even before in the northwest and other areas where he worked, by my guesstimation it was about 8 yrs. He was never the same after the Pipers Pit incident and it started slowly and after never really getting his revenge with The Tonga kid by his side in Tag Team Matches he was done. WrestleMania he was just there it was ALL ABOUT Hogan, Piper and MR T that's why a year late he was in The AWA. And his return to the WWF in the late 80s early 90s was horrible. Trust me Piper did him in.

[@MrAtomicDon]

@@jasonkessler7321 I'm 46 and I remember watching that Piper's Pit. I guess you're right about all that and I would add The Undertaker defeating Superlie at Wrestlemania.

[@frozyre7854]

@@jasonkessler7321 And when Snuka faced Undertaker at Wrestlemania - RIP, done.

[@MrJjburgess11]

@@frozyre7854 well Snuka was also 50 by the time he wrestled Undertaker. His career was over anyway.

[@TheeCoachg]

Snuka was never my cup of tea and ive grown a worse distaste for him than Benoit. At least Benoit took his own shitty life. This low life Snuka went to the woman's funeral and insulted her fam,wrote a book lying on character and went about his scumbag life. This story just really pisses me off and Fatu sitting up there talking about how nice and great he was. 🙄

[@EliasJRosario]

LMAO. That cop was shady af. Vice team: "We just had somewhere here who..." Shady cop: "lol said he was in the car with them?" Vice team: "Actually yeah he said he was in the car with Snuka!" *Shady cop stops laughing and gets serious as if he were caught in a lie.

[@ayaankhan1153]

Chief of police was a horrible actor 😂

[@DakotaDidYou]

I really wish they would put an extended version of the episodes on youtube or just like 20-minute piece to go along with the episode.

[@yourbigheadcousin5434]

You have to understand the situation that Vice is in. Snuka wasnt convicted so they have to be very careful about what they say

[@NightWarriorAlive]

14:00 - "Shady as F*%K!" Ha ha, that's a good way of putting it. Also, the Tony Atlas story is interesting.

[@TheWillisShow]

Too bad Brian and Jim couldn’t host the After Dark show.

[@gqn2]

Jason Willis bet it would bring up Vince Russo every time.

[@franksullivan7110]

Well Vince did run the WWF and is still the top promoter in wrestling.

[@spectrumlocalb191]

Jason Willis these two assholes are lucky they can take a shit.

[@JingDalagan]

Jim: An arena rat Brian: ... a groupie

[@TakeNoteOfThat]

Is Brian Last a character? He plays the gimmick of obsessive fan with an in really well. Bonus points for the criticism of actual television people for not including important things...like that Eddie Gilbert (you know, the famous one) was at the hospital at the SAME TIME!?!

[@ChampHatch]

Legend has it that Hogan said he was there,🇺🇲

[@carloselizondo7671]

I want a Dark Side Story on the ROAD WARRIORS !! If you dare.

[@gregorykrug8034]

May 12th is the Road Warriors episode.

[@ianholl9100]

Jim Cornette is fantastic!

[@leowolftvjoshuadauzat]

Snuka killed her accidentally in a cocaine rage. And left her to go wrestle when he should've stayed but he knew she was dying but wanted to say he was gone when it happened. I mean they prove me right when they say he slandered her in his book.

[@scottsmith9529]

I stopped watching WWF in 1997. USA network wasn't on campus tv. My roommate has the WWF network. It's great to hear all these stories and going back and watching 80s/90s wrestling. Case in point Mr Perfect with a broken back against Bret Hart at SummerSlam. Never knew about that. Nor did I have any idea about the Superfly! Thanks Fellas.

[@MikeDest]

Sam Fatu not even remembering her name at the beginning of the episode was weird.

[@gamesthatiplay9083]

Yeah that's weird. I know it's been 30 years, but you'd think you'd remember a coworker murdering someone that you meet. Just what an utter shock it would be.

[@joebruce4826]

Fatu knew what happened he was being deceptive & distancing himself from the situation

[@MikeDest]

The only explanation I can think of is maybe he was told it was going to be an interview about Jimmy Snuka and the topic of Nancy Argentino was sprung on him.

[@gsignaturemessage]

MikeDest that’s what I gathered. He probably had no idea what the documentary was fully about because you would think the producers would say “hey we are working on an episode with Nancy and Jimmy”. But they probably hid that part because every other Samoan would not have done that show

[@MikeDest]

@@gsignaturemessage I've seen people who have worked with or been interviewed by Vice before say they are shady.

[@endezeichengrimm]

On which clip does Jim say: "Is there heat? .... it is lukewarm but I can feel it?" something like that?

[@endezeichengrimm]

@777killad Do you know which episode or clip that was on?

[@VeryStupid4547]

#freemasonsrunthecountry (Simpsons reference)

[@scaccu]

well, it's true.

[@charliewise1971]

Buddy Rogers lived in Haddonfield, NJ. I think my dad responded to one of those Snuka calls.

[@LooseCan88]

JImmy was the Hulk Hogan of the WWF at that time, drawing more than Backlund.

[@scottishdanny2432]

Jimmy Snuka & Hulk Hogan combined have 2 Hall of Fame rings & one murder.

[@scottishdanny2432]

@OrdinaryTuber And a lot of late nights with ladies who aren't their wives.

[@scottishdanny2432]

@OrdinaryTuber minus the sexy women, fame & millions of dollars in his bank account.

[@scottishdanny2432]

@OrdinaryTuber Oh yeah!

[@siddhanth3044]

Damn, Brian is very astute in his recounting of historical events.

[@Dakatari]

It's so sad how they covered up Nancy death with lies on top of lies. Vince paid the cops to lose evidence if there is a such thing as karma Vince definitely will reap his. Rest in Peace Nancy Argentino

[@xxpatrick204xx]

Nancy got her karma

[@jimj.5099]

It was interesting that you asked Kevin if he'd ever given Nancy a black eye, but didn't ask him if he had ever hit her period. That said, great interview with Kevin.

[@romankotas448]

Vice probably had a Vince shaped shadow over them while they were editing this

[@napoleonsolo5929]

That's why you won't get 100% truth about this or any other shady deals involving Vince until after he dies.

[@TheWillisShow]

You people that are saying wrestling needs to go away because it is so corrupt, then you may as well take away football, baseball, hockey, etc. You don’t think there’s cover-ups and corruption in legitimate sports? Do a little research...until someone does Dark Side of the Field or Dark Side of the Court...

[@andrewmelville4570]

Just watched after dark, was more enlightening that the dark side. Feel sorry for Nancy’s family that they got no justice or answers to what happened

[@Weirzy]

What is with wives/girlfriends of wrestlers named Nancy being murdered

[@joe_brooks_music]

If Jim was a free Mason, I'm pretty sure Vince Russo would've mysterious died a long time ago lol

[@swinetrek]

And been buried under a building.

[@nathueil1]

So i just saw an interview with Tony Atlas and he tells this story and says that this Lisa told him Jimmy had an 8 ball earlier in the day, Nancy went to go get more coke for Jimmy and came back empty handed, Jimmy was laying in the bed when Nancy got back and was raged when he found out, he then jumped from the bed, punched her and broke her neck. This Lisa also stated at that point she ran out of the room and left her purse. He said he didnt know if she ever got it back and that she got with him (Atlas) in hopes to get it back he believed. This is one crazy tale for sure from the roaring 80s.

[@SmaugUKA]

Link to the Interview. People here might want to see it.

[@nathueil1]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpuzlYBjq6t-ns0

[@kyjuangarner1576]

I love how jimmy kills someone and he’s still a all time great but Chris kills someone and he’s blacklisted from all of wrestling

[@jasonkessler7321]

Good point, and while I didn't vote for Trump I am getting sick of listening to Cornett bash him. And while it is not opening my eyes to bad things that have happened in wrestling these dark side of wrestling specials aren't helping the public relations for the business, again good point.

[@kyjuangarner1576]

Joe Greene it was proven jimmy killed her the only reason he wasn’t convicted is Bc he was extremely sick.... do your fucking research before you comment on shit you don’t know

[@kyjuangarner1576]

Joe Greene and not to mention all the files that were hidden for multiple decades

[@kyjuangarner1576]

Kingdom of the Son of God we don’t know if Chris for sure killed his kid tho.....

[@kyjuangarner1576]

Kingdom of the Son of God the report was that the son died on Friday the mom on Saturday and Chris on Sunday so who’s to say the the mom didn’t kill the son then Chris comes home finds out then kills Nancy?

[@walterclark3198]

Everytime I think of Jimmy Snuka all I think of is that episode of Piper's pit when piper hit jimmy in the head with the coconut. Classic angle and funny segment.

[@lukeboard696]

Wow this episode has only been up for 42 minutes at this time and already has 1.2k views and 180 likes counting mine. Best podcast on KZbin!

[@ApothecaryGrant]

Have they done one on Buck Zumfhofe yet ?

[@CARTOONIVERSE1]

They also told us in the Snuka episode that her family discovered all the injuries *at the funeral.* They don't mention THE CORONER report at all here. These 2 guys miss a lot of details.

[@RyTrapp0]

They literally did mention the coroner report - injuries suffered from blunt force trauma, the death didn't look accidental, should be investigated(paraphrasing massively)

[@CARTOONIVERSE1]

@@RyTrapp0 - Oh yeah. That last part you mentioned just jogged my memory. *Thanks!*

[@charliewise1971]

My dad responded to that call. Rogers lived in Haddonfield

[@ErwalDeeas]

What I wouldn’t give for a tv show where Corny plays Colombo.

[@lukeboard696]

Anyone notice the after dark episodes seem like everyone sits there and keeps interrupting each other? Only reason I check it out is for deleted scenes. Other than that anyone could put that show on.

[@thebk132]

Jim I must say as a 17 year old wrestling fan I’ve always know who you were just from watching old dvd tapings of shows and watching videos but after watching dark side of the ring and listening to you talk on your show I have truly began to appreciate the wrestling icon that your, thank you Jim for everything you’ve done for the business

[@flame9118]

The producers mentioned they tried to find Lisa for this show, but were unable to find her on Conrad's Dark Side of the Podcast

[@TheDaveKrueger]

I've said this as well. Dark Side is so over rated, we literally learn NOTHING new on any of the episodes, all rehashed info everyone already knows.

[@CARTOONIVERSE1]

The DaveKrueger- They told us her family discovered her injuries at *the funeral* & never mention THE CORONER.

[@tw475]

that isn't true learned a bunch of things from the Benoit special, that i never knew or heard. few other episodes they had details, but those are on less infamous topics. Montreal i don't think anyone learned anything new, besides Jim being behind it.

[@James40000]

A piece of journalism's worth isn't measured by how much YOU learn. Stop patting yourself on the back.

[@CARTOONIVERSE1]

@@James40000 - Where did he pat *himself* on the back?

[@crissaxx7562]

I love all Travis art !!! , i loved Snuka til the coconut hit , then i was a piper fan 4 life .

[@dantheman9228]

The Snuka episode is the worst one they have done,i think this episode was pressured from different sources into leaving out information,be interesting to see what ended up on the cutting room floor.

[@TheeCoachg]

Agreed. It felt very very scattered. I had to watch it 3 times

[@dungeon-wn4gw]

I saw a video that revealed that Vince brought a suitcase to the interrogation room and when he went out, snuka was completely absolved. Some people theorize that it was a suitcase full of money paying off the investigators.

[@dantheman9228]

@@dungeon-wn4gw they kind of hinted at that in this episode by Vince telling Snuka at the start of the interview not to worry as it was sorted with one of their blurred faced actor re-enactment sketches,unless they have a source that was in that room and testifying to that openly on camera then it cant be taken as proof. That was one of my problems with this story it was all maybe this happened and not this was what happened.

[@dantheman9228]

@@TheeCoachg Yeah it was a patch together job to try and get some kind of show they could air without getting their asses sued.

[@asurlybarber3620]

Piper didn't hit Snuka nearly hard enough with that damn coconut.

[@dkres82]

Think this episode needed to be longer maybe a 2nd part, or just a 90 minute episode.

[@BSE1320]

Not gonna lie, Jim Cornette portraying Columbo is hilarious. "One more thing Sir..okay..Thank You...Fuck You...Bye"

[@modernpoet3997]

The second season of Dark side of the ring feels like its trying to be more salacious and less factual than the first season.

[@crypt0nym0ussec57]

Perhaps true, but Season 2 will be seen by most as the far superior season, given the content. Benoit, Snuka, New Jack... And we got Owen Hart coming soon. Who knows what new unseen footage we'll get from that.

[@BrandonMobley614]

0:29 "There's somebody on the internet who thinks everyone is a satanic freemason." 😂😂

[@Emperor.Penguin.]

I can't wait for the Owen Hart episode, you just know jim and "shitstain" are both gonna be in it.

[@jonvia]

Corny as Columbo is my favorite animation!!! Uh just one more thing Russo...

[@xjf459]

Lol Corny is an Elitist Freemason ... Frigg corny, ya missed your gimmick 🤣

[@TippiGordon]

Muchnick has written a book about it. It's called JUSTICE DENIED.

[@dagwood8152]

If they let Jimmy In the Hof, then they should let in Chris Benoit

[@shaqbundles]

He's in the hall out fame already

[@darthsajin389]

Snuka wasn't convicted

[@dagwood8152]

@@shaqbundles I know he is, what I'm saying since jimmy is a killer, they should let Benoit in.

[@christophmatthews4313]

dagwood 81 stupid.

[@Terronr403]

Great show

[@southernrips7383]

Good old Internet, where everyone is judge Judy, 50 years from now we'll trace it back to the fall of the human race.

[@TRivera13]

If the cops did more back then, he would've at least been charged. There was evidence everywhere for if any one had bothered to look.

[@deekdeegler5059]

They definitely mentioned him not paying the settelment

[@gregcabig3449]

The briefcase that Vince brought to the station was only told by snuka’s widow. No mention of it at all from anyone else in that doc

[@ADG.Est.1988]

I appreciate the additive information. Thank you 2 gentlemen

[@briandavis2088]

What is the “After Dark” episode?? Is it on KZbin?

[@intelligentfool09]

Its episodes on KZbin .It airs on Vice tv.