Jim Cornette on Adam Page's Promo About CM Punk

[@SairajRKamath]

It says a lot about Adam Page and his friends that they view Bret Hart's style of wrestling as a pejorative rather than a goal.

[@vinylbuff1515]

What I hate about Shawn Micheals impersonators is that they do his super kicks without any ring psychology, Shawn knew when to do what and how to sell. He was always selling his ass off

[@riffhousestudios96]

You’d think a kick to the face would knock a person out, but u know

[@carlosr6462]

@@riffhousestudios96 yeah like the finish of Ferguson vs Chandler at UFC 274 two weeks ago

[@MultiBlack17]

All they know is how to kick(or slap their thigh) and jump cuz they can't throw a punch, do a chop, or bump like Shawn. It's a kindergartener's version of Shawn Michaels' wrestling

[@DLynch]

damn this aged like fine wine

[@MultiBlack17]

While AEW is aging like late 90s WCW.

[@EwanCumia]

@@MultiBlack17 AEW is aging like a pile of cow shit.

[@duzted]

Still

[@maskedwalnut]

This is even funnier with Punk wearing a Brett Hart hoodie on NXT lol

[@midiagain828]

Remember a few weeks ago where Page wouldn't hit Cole with a chair in a deathmatch? You know, they guy who kept messing with him, jumping him from behind, taking his belt, making him look like a fool in general? He still to conflicted to even use a chair. Ah but CM Punk challenges him and that's what it takes to light the fire in Page and make him a heel. Makes total sense.

[@Tool30301]

THANK YOU!

[@Rick-Rarick]

Hangnail Adam Page is so boring in my opinion. They need to put the belt on Punk so he can then eventually drop it to MJF.

[@youngbreezy5859]

It's not a heel turn. He was working heel in this specific segment.

[@sublime90]

hangman makes doink the clown look like a legit wrestler to be taken seriously

[@carllangley6812]

A good booker would use those examples as a reason for Page's new attitude. But....

[@Justin-bo5pg]

If you watch Bret Hart at his peak, 92 to 97, his matches built. They might not of all started out at zero, but they built to a point and then you got the sling shot cross body on the floor, you got some brawling around the ring, and then things settled back down in the ring and the matches built back up to the finish. When you start 100 MpH where do you go? Where do you go from a corkscrew moonsault in the first minute and a half?

[@watchreport]

Exactly. Movies have done this as well. Most movies do lead up to it though most of the time and that’s how wrestling matches should go as well. Making it appear somewhat like a fight would help too.

[@madhatter8508]

That corkscrew moonsault in the first minute and a half wouldn't be so bad if it was a squash match, or at least a short back and forth. These dweebs go on for half an hour though!

[@Justin-bo5pg]

@@madhatter8508 the kicking out of EVERYTHING is a problem. Everyone, myself included, complained that Vince and Company basically made it for about 5 years that you could run Cena over with a tank and he'd kick out. You've got guys kicking out of top rope Canadian Destroyers and STILL going another 5 or 10 min.

[@christian6455]

@@madhatter8508 or even a commercial break

[@natefrancis4455]

The listeners' theory makes so much sense now.

[@Tool30301]

CM Punk got a crowd of people that are used to 450s and Canadian Destroyers off the top rope, to pop like crazy over a basic bodyslam, that proves more than anything he has more value than most do in wrestling he made the most basic of moves mean something, and yet he's the copier even though this is an era where big finishing moves don't end the match. Although CM Punk got that same crowd that likes that stuff to pop over a basic body slam. It's almost as if when everything is chaos order sticks out or something.

[@orangutangarama9870]

I remember when punk and Joe had the early 2000s ROH crowd popping for a headlock

[@EliC09]

Is that why the AEW audience doesn’t grow at all?

[@Tool30301]

@@EliC09 Instead of an organized wrestling show with chaos happening, they are chaos with occasional organized wrestling, and the people in charge hate it when that happens, if they don't actually hate organized well done wrestling that's the impression they still implant in people, and there are significantly more people who want to watch wrestling over chaos

[@scottthegeneticfreaksteine393]

@@EliC09 can’t even grow if they put shit like they did with hardy and Darby. Can’t blame it on punk when you got a stooge, dipshit booking the show. I can only imagine how it would be booked if hopefully when punk, danielson, regal, jr, Tully and arn actually could give advice how to book it and what wrestlers to keep cuz I guarantee 3/4 of the roster would be gone. Can only think Kenny and the bucks would be the only ones left outta all the dipshits they employ.

[@chrisstoecker7189]

Hopefully the next generation of talent recognizes how the styles of the Sammy's and Darby's aren't good for much of anything long term and there's plenty of ways of getting the huge reaction with far less risk because too many of these guys in their 20s just don't get it. Give me Daniel Garcia over the 3 so-called pillars not named MJF

[@lracseroom8286]

This is why WWE recruiting college athletes instead of indy darlings is genius. No Marks In The Ring.

[@J2003-i8q]

This was fucking spot on the money. The Bucks never liked Punk, go and watch the backstage before Punk’s AEW debut and the elite are there with sour expressions trying to make a deal about it. I think this is all the bucks’ doing from the start, but maybe Punk handled it in a bad way, either way the bucks are directly the reason that AEW is suffering today…

[@eldraenpharr8222]

My favorite thing about Punk is that when you go back and watch his promos and promos about him you realize all the "signs" were there the whole time He worked with Fish, Fish kicks out at 3.1 to muddy the finish. Page does the bidding for the elite Kliq on national television

[@jesterr7133]

The lack or professionalism in AEW is really starting to bother me. JR, Schiavone, and especially Big Show have given up even trying to make it seem real. Big Show regularly uses terms like "sell", "bump", or "getting heat". As a long time fan of the business who grew up during the glory days, it really pisses me off.

[@jaysgamingcorner8539]

👏👏👏👏

[@DADON99]

JR & Tony have given up because they are used to calling matches with larger than life stars in them…not 100 pound vanilla monkeys…they are doing this for the money and I don’t blame😂

[@majorfomo7895]

How is it that Punk's eyes get more crossed with every Travis Heckel drawing??? 🤣🤣🤣

[@mattharper1242]

(it's the same drawing)

[@teebird6952]

Long term storytelling

[@TheRuns2]

@@teebird6952 😂

[@LOSKOSKI]

He is probably trying to squeeze out a good ol' country shit. I blame the media.

[@BishopM1]

As if he’s Shawn Michaels

[@db-jk8dl]

Jim Ross soon: nobody took a back body drop as high as Shawn Michaels.

[@ianrocco8453]

Jim Ross: Haven't seen some take this many chair shots to the face while handcuffed since the days of Mankind.

[@dionius4549]

AJ Styles

[@dannybaum3874]

Shortly after, Harpo was patting himself on the back during a promo, saying he wasn’t a “tribute act”

[@Bulletno]

Ahhhhhhh this is the genesis of the infamous ALL OUT brawl in 2022! Fuck The Elite!

[@billsiebert2758]

Bret had his own unique style of classic wrestling mixed with the new age of stuff that was going on at the time. I honestly feel that Punk has his own unique style and also does some of the new age stuff, and that is the only way that Bret & Punk are similar at all but both very very very very good but different!

[@christopheriverson7103]

Bret Hart........was, is, and forever is the best in ring technician I ever seen.....

[@LOSKOSKI]

I blame Cliff

[@Gum_Cuzzler]

I like Punk but he’s too sloppy to be considered the modern day Bret. I think Danielson is honestly closer to deserving that moniker.

[@christopheriverson7103]

@@Gum_Cuzzler: damn I like punk........but I like the truth too and you sir are absolutely correct in your assessment.... Daniel Bryan is the closer to Bret but I also say aj styles....

[@Gum_Cuzzler]

@@christopheriverson7103 IMO Danielson = Bret Rollins = Shawn AJ= the perfect fusion of Bret and Shawn lol

[@SergeiNechayev]

From this to WWE getting the biggest pop ever in Chicago. Well fckn done Hangman lolllll Also, you DID do a Bret Hart tribue match. Roddy Piper at Wrestlemania finish. Well done Punk lmao

[@dantedipietro1366]

Telling me that something modern looks like a Bret Hart match is beyond a selling point, not a condemnation!

[@davidcwajgenberg6185]

@Dino Vasiljevic well I don't know why everyone is now acting like he's the best of all time man

[@davyjones2032]

@@davidcwajgenberg6185 Bret a little before my time but what I can tell is he and Shawn were a slightly pre Attitude Era debate amongst OG wrestling nerds. Bret is the "professional wrestler" aka more technical in ring but with below average charisma. Whereas Shawn Michaels was the "sports entertainer" with way above average charisma and more showmanship. Bret also took wrestling super seriously and has had beef with WWE(for better reasons than most).

[@christopheriverson7103]

Bret Hart was the best of his era, hands down....

[@christopheriverson7103]

@@davyjones2032: Great example.....Bret was today's version of an Indy darling to go deeper with it...

[@undeddjester]

According to his auto biography, Bret Hart first did the front turnbuckle bump as a result of a long stint of matches and being too tired to be bothered to turn into the turnbuckle, so just ran chest first into it instead... he was fine, but his opponent and the small crowd were concerned about him cause it looked brutal, so he started using it in his repertoire. Surely saying "It's a Bret Hart masturbatory tribute match" is already throwing the idea it's a work to the viewer before you even start talking about the turnbuckle spot. The business is so exposed now... I don't know how anyone can even watch it anymore. Even when knowing it was work, I still enjoyed wrestling because I appreciated the skill in masking the fact it was a work, gaining a new level of appreciation for the golden age of wrestling... Now it's almost like there is no attempt to hide anything, and the whole thing just becomes pointless...

[@insupportofjunhado]

When someone is doing an interview not run by the company on basically their own time and decide to just obliterate kayfabe, fine, more power to you. When you can't even try to keep it on the show itself you've lost me. Look, if you're forced into a situation that leads to you breaking kayfabe, even if it's down to you not thinking quickly enough to keep it, at least you tried.

[@christopheriverson7103]

Well to be honest WCW first started exposing the business during the Russo era... remember the Goldberg wouldn't follow the script storyline, that's exposing the business... Nash and hall didn't help at times but neither did Hogan. The attitude era and Monday night wars was the best we were ever going to get unless ecw had stayed in business.. aew is cool but the more time goes on things just look more and more chaotic. I miss the days of the hotline before the Internet honestly cause it made shows more unpredictable...

[@al5306]

AEW has a LOT of "shoot" references that they intend to get the "oooooh" reaction from fans with no regard to how they might bury other wrestlers, the company, or the business. They do them just because they want to.

[@SpaceGhost92]

Exactly. All this is was a throw away one liner to pop their mark audience. There’s nothing deeper to it.

[@BrocoliEnjoyer1]

Every Britt Baker promo basically

[@jaysgamingcorner8539]

So true, 100% accurate. Why would Page say this? Who does this help? How does it help the company? And why on Earth would Tony Khan allow this on his show? Moronic.🙄🙄

[@christopheramaro333]

You're not wrong. BUT...let him say "trampoline gymnastic cooperation matches" and none of us would bat an eye. I know I wouldn't.

[@Hakeem990]

I'd be shocked if AEW exists as a company in five years time

[@kurtisallen3879]

A year later and Rhonda Shane nailed it.

[@davidirwin2176]

Wow, hindsight is a powerful thing

[@__RYN__]

11:45 Thats what RVD said about CM Punk. Something like he's a "leader" or would have meetings. Probably why CM Punk and Cody Rhodes are a little touchy sometimes. Just a different era we're in.

[@davidburke7777]

It’s also well known the locker room would laugh in Punk’s face when he tried to act like a leader

[@crixus9336]

You imagine if the AEW guys shared the locker room with someone like The Undertaker. They'd soon learn respect. From the countless stories I've heard you wouldn't dare cross Taker.

[@scottthegeneticfreaksteine393]

@@davidburke7777 fuck who said this. Can’t remember who but I laughed so hard when this was said. Was it kev?

[@televiper11]

@@crixus9336 cuz Taker was a bully

[@billywashere6965]

@@televiper11 A positive bully, Mr.

[@nathantturnert1631]

Major props to the guy who sent this . Couldn't agree more

[@ericroman2403]

Plainman Adam Page

[@nickhughes8179]

Hangma’am Adam Page. With his butterfly jeans and pink t shirt!!

[@thesquirozgx]

Why is Punk always cross-eyed in these arts lol? Did I miss a meme or something?

[@funkymonk4586]

lol yeah and the weird thing is, this wasn't always the case, travis changed it some time ago, at first I thought punk was cross-eyed or something and I didn't noticed but that wasn't the case lol, I guess travis started disliking him for some reason 🤔

[@brandonthompson5796]

I think it's because Punk has acted on several occasions like he's the "savior" of wrestling and the true everyman who represents "the voice of the voiceless" even though he left wrestling entirely for 7 straight years. And his matches in AEW have been pretty mixed with his frequent godawful botching. Oh and let's not forget his pathetic attempt at an MMA career. He's essentially a walking meme at this point

[@RagingCookie127]

@@brandonthompson5796 That has nothing to do with him being crosseyed, you just have a hateboner for Punk and had to get it out of your system.

[@Thurs1t0]

@@brandonthompson5796 and he’s still the best thing they have

[@JG-lw5uz]

@@brandonthompson5796 you literally have no idea what you're talking about and it fucking shows lool

[@DXCenaWWE4life]

The Bucks resenting someone? There's a shocker if I've ever heard one. And I'm no fan of CM Punk but it's not surprising this is how they are.

[@kipdaedricartifact]

Why aren’t you a fan of CM Punk?

[@carlosr6462]

@@kipdaedricartifact because he is DXCenaWWE4life

[@FrozenSurf]

@@kirktuss4819 so not nearly as long as Flair has had all those things 😂

[@DXCenaWWE4life]

@@carlosr6462 and my dislike of him has what to do with my name on here how exactly?

[@FrozenSurf]

@@kirktuss4819 flair is a real life creep, as is well documented. But do keep on moving the goal posts to suit your narrative

[@Crow5537]

Punk doing a body slam proves his value in it’s self that pop is ridiculous

[@segagenesis7708]

Let's be honest. CM Punk has now copied two Hart matches spot for spot. Page was not wrong. Classic ring psychology isn't copying a match spot for spot. The Harts believed in originality. If you really want to honor Bret, focus on how you could make your match different. That is what Bret prided himself on. Bret knew that most of the stuff they could do had already been done. So, he put emphasis on finding ways to do those things, but make them look different.

[@Teee762]

That's true. If you are copying matches your are exposing the business and burying your own product.

[@battlemole8233]

@@Teee762 exposing the business. That really describes aew to the point

[@Teee762]

@@battlemole8233 the bucks literally wrote a book titled "killing the business". That's not aging very well.

[@segagenesis7708]

@@Teee762 Yeah. What Bret would do, is try to find ways to do the same things, but make them look different. He didn't see a match from 1978 and think, 'I'm gonna honor that guy by doing his match spot for spot'.

[@RagingCookie127]

Going "Bret did it so it's a tribute" just doesn't wash. Yes, he did it, so what? Pay tribute in a way someone cares about, nobody gains anything from someone going "Hey, remember that thing?"

[@bustaker]

Tbf Dax Harwood did say to the young bucks on roh, that their match won't be a gymnastics routine

[@stevonwhite8933]

They’ve had great matches that aren’t gymnastics extreme. Just sadly far and few between.

[@carlosr6462]

@@stevonwhite8933 Since I started watching AEW they have one match formula, sometimes Nick Jackson does alright on singles but as a tag team they are always indierrific spot monkeys.

[@billywashere6965]

Except they literally did a gymnastic routine in their match against FTR.

[@stevonwhite8933]

@@billywashere6965 Dude at this point, you might as well say a wrestler should never leave their feet. That’s just nitpicking like a mf.

[@Kr4ShSkeL]

@@billywashere6965 absolutely not you obviously did not see the match, even old Jim praised them for this match and called them by their real name, come on kid you can be a hater but dont be a liar

[@MultiBlack17]

Came back for clarity on the nonsense leading up to All Out and CM Punk's second comeback lol

[@memorydrain7806]

I'm an old Bret Hart fan. Loved his matches. Loved what he brought to the business. I'm not sorry when I say that I'm split. I'm glad Punk and some others want to pay respect, but AEW as a whole carry things too long to where they're cringy as hell. It doesn't seem sincere, like forced bad acting. This is the trend? Everyone loves Bret Hart now?

[@chriscornelius2518]

The renaissance of Bret Hart's career is wonderful to me. I agree with you though. I just love hearing the appreciation of Hart. He has had such a bad streak of luck for the past 20 years and listening to people glowingly talk about him and his career.

[@MrSircharles05]

Everyone's dickridin' Bret Hart now.

[@Tool30301]

I thought the same thing about Shawn Michaels and The Kliq when it came to the Young Bucks it's great that you want to pay homage but this is self indulgent,bad acting, that doesn't need to be done in excessive amounts

[@jay_1212]

Between punk and FTR I’d just feels like people are just sucking off brett excessively now. He’s great but the man isn’t Jesus

[@jay_1212]

@@Tool30301 of course. It’s always good to show respect but yea AEW is seriously overdoing it

[@lordofthebuckets2676]

This video is even spicier in August 2022 given current events.

[@TheSeriouslyCasual]

Ehhh, I don't think the Young Bucks are telling Page to say these things. In fact, I think Page is just going online to read what haters say about CM Punk and going with that.

[@YK_J3ST3R]

Yeah it’s not like there are thousands of people who dedicate all their time to bashing him online for some weird reason

[@VitZ9]

@@YK_J3ST3R I can think of at least 2 reasons to make fun of Punk, and it's not weird. Sorry, just can't take him seriously once he got his ass kicked, twice.

[@YK_J3ST3R]

@@VitZ9 how’s your UFC career going?

[@VitZ9]

@@YK_J3ST3R Well I don't have national television exposure from WWE, or the friends in high places, to just walk onto UFC television. But yeah, better than Punks - I've won fights. 😆😂🤣

[@YK_J3ST3R]

@@VitZ9 beating your meat doesn’t count as winning a fight

[@barrymccockiner773]

Can’t wait to hear about Punk calling out Page last night

[@barrymccockiner773]

@Dave someone said Moxley is a better in-ring worker than Punk.. I’m not a big fan of Punk, but I can’t comprehend shit like that lmao

[@starshipfame1]

AEW hasn’t done anything to elevate Adam Page. There’s no thrill when he’s introduced, his videos are barely posted on the KZbin page, and it’s like he’s a walking vacant slot for the title. They need to learn how to read the room and re-route from their written storylines.

[@metallicbigtoe3949]

I completely agree with this, I actually think this is all totally deliberate for Omega to slot back in and instantly look much better right away.

[@allforgreatness9883]

@@metallicbigtoe3949 tony is a terrible booker he needs to let go of his ego and hire actual bookers!

[@metallicbigtoe3949]

@@allforgreatness9883 yep no doubt about it

[@juangraciaofficial]

I started watching AEW because of Punk and it took me like 4 months until I realized they have a world champion and who he was, and to this day I sometimes confuse Adam Cole with Adam page

[@joeyskywalker1322]

AEW don’t have any writers lol

[@jovanss2361]

I can't be the only fan who doesn't wanna hear backstage terms during the show. Let me suspend my disbelief for the 2 hours..

[@joshbevan5671]

I wanna know what Jim thinks of Chris Jerichos new wizard name

[@adrianocollinzo5712]

What is it?

[@G_Six]

@@adrianocollinzo5712 the wizard

[@travisboyle285]

@@adrianocollinzo5712 The Wizard because he can throw fireballs.

[@sharding14]

Man, that Bret Hart comment from JR really had me scratching my head for awhile. How does that make sense?! Yes, I know Bret would hit the turnbuckle sternum first, but that’s not something you should want to emulate, getting your ass beat.

[@starshipfame1]

Right? It wasn’t like it was an offensive move. He literally got tossed into the buckle. If anything, it should have been a spot to compliment Adam. Almost like great job of referee holding the ladder so wrestlers can dive off it. Really reminds me of the days of Chioda😂😂

[@scrappy93]

Depends how you take it. I'm guessing some of the Buckaroos have been staying something and Jim may have been talking about people actually selling. Also during the show Jim called out the ref during a match.

[@mattobrien6498]

Who is here after the Punk return promo on Page?

[@bieberninja1]

in bobby heenan's book he said he made a comment about someone missing a dropkick and tony schiavone told him "don't draw attention to it" and to just treat it as if the dropkick connected, then heenan said he made a suggestion on how to book angle to eric bischoff and bischoff just told him you're being paid to be a commentator, eventually heenan just gave up trying to teach these idiots something, i'm sure tony khan told jim ross, we're paying you a lot of money so leave your logic and common sense at home

[@EwanCumia]

Bischoff not listening to Heenan speaks volumes about WCW's mentality.

[@2011nphelps]

Looking back, I believe the bucks and page are simply jealous because they don't have the talent or skill to pull off a "masterbatory Brett hart tribute"

[@exiaR2x78]

Man if that line came from the Bucks thats the funniest thing. They were knock of Hardy boys for years, then they decided to be knock of Shawn Michaels/NWO. They were the jabronis of the bullet club so idk why they have a big head now hahah

[@ricosalvaje5802]

The Bucks are seriously self absorbed and really think they were the driving force of the Bullet Club.

[@exiaR2x78]

@@ricosalvaje5802 Yeah and its so delusional haha they were like the nwo b squad lol. I went to Japan in 2018 was wearing a bullet club shirt and an arcade attendant was talking to me about wrestling the stuff he said about how dumb the bucks were really stuck with me haha

[@dquanissavage6287]

Awesome Shoot Today Jim!!😎🐐🐐

[@Colt2OO2]

Yes their fans are mostly consisted of hardcore fans who know about way more than the casuals do, but what people apparently can't understand (probably because most casual fans don't seem to really watch their shows since otherwise they'd know this) is that their fanbase appreciates many different styles of wrestling, case in point when Punk is able to get a pop out of that same audience from a simple bodyslam, they don't just blindly eat up all the spotfests like everyone thinks they do. If they don't like something they're seeing because it's noticeably bad, they're either basically dead silent or very vocal about it (think when the Dark Order debuted for the former and Satnam Singh's debut in the latter case), so they aren't just sheep for everything that's put in front of them on a weekly basis. The line about Punk's matches being masturbatory Bret Hart tributes was meant to send a message that it's not gonna be a wrestling masterclass (even if it will still be one given the talent involved), but rather a fight because he's not gonna allow Punk to just have another tribute match and beat him, he doesn't appreciate (in kayfabe) how he approaches the business, so I thought that line was fantastic. Everyone should honestly just watch as fans at this point and don't worry about how good or bad the booker is anymore because you'll like some things they do and you won't like other things, it happens with literally every TV show, there's usually both good and bad aspects in it, but you don't see people shitting all over the ones behind those shows because one thing they did looked bad and they didn't like it, any logical person knows they can't possibly enjoy *everything*

[@scrappy93]

Did Adam Page tell you that? You wrote a novel only to torpedo it yourself. Lmfao

[@moribundxix]

I am normally of a different opinion than Brian Last but he hit the nail on the head here...

[@duxsta779]

4:53 is exactly why Jim is the best at what he does…

[@DarkBlueBaker]

It doesn't matter if you like Bret or not, you can't deny he knows his way around the ring. Punk isn't my ❤️ but as a wrestler he's competent and entertaining. I would take it as a compliment if anyone compared me to Bret's work ethic and style. Sounds to me like there are some sore jelly bellies mad because they aren't as appreciated.

[@caseypearce9078]

Kinda like the idea of the bucks feeding page the line. If it leads to page/bucks vs punk/FTR stables and feuds, I'm all for it.

[@Sky_Blaze]

Yay more 3 on 3 tag matches 🙄 jesus.

[@bigdaddyroy5382]

If they did that. They would have buried the pinnacle who according to mjf is still a thing, since punk and mjf are still enemies and punk when was on commentary says he respects ftr but doesn't like them at all, while that could be untrue in person. On TV he doesn't like them

[@carllangley6812]

I'm all for Page retaining if he keeps this new attitude up. He's supposed to be a no-nonsense cowboy and he's finally acting like it.

[@mimseydemon1844]

Yup, that's why if I'm wondering if they'll do a callback to Hart/Austin and have Page bloody and passing out instead of submitting. They've dropped a few hints in that direction.

[@Pogo113]

It's also funny for the babyface champion to talk shit about Bret Hart in a roundabout way while they produce TWO tournaments dedicated to his brother 🤦‍♂️

[@mr._muji]

Adam Page is such a terrible champion he made Jack Swagger look like one of the greatest world champions of all time.

[@ren17x50]

I e never watched a Page match but is he That Bad?

[@mr._muji]

@@ren17x50 His matches are pretty okay. But his character and world title reign are terrible. He's the worst AEW Champion as of now.

[@allforgreatness9883]

@@mr._muji its Tonys fault he booked page backwards and wrong

[@kingslayer2999]

Adam Page makes David Arquette and Russo as WCW Champions look like Historic title reigns

[@Smokey1419]

@@ren17x50 hes a good worker and naturally over with fans, but he has been booked so stupidly, it really devalues his title run. They gave him the belt way too soon, not because it made sense, but because fans called him beating Omeag for it (which was also booked poorly)

[@thomasdonaldson3523]

I'm so glad u caught that buckle bump comment because I was like wtf

[@itscarlyj]

This is why I need to listen to the full show before listening to clips. I took what Jim said about Bret and the turnbuckle in a previous post the wrong way. I didn't see it that way.

[@masterj4777]

Greatest compliment in history is being compared to the best there is, was, and ever will be 👏👏👏🏆 But then again punk is the best in the world 🌍🤼

[@constablekennedy7705]

Adam Page makes Jinder Mahal look like one of the Greatest World Champions of All Time …

[@ZacharyShow]

Jinder Mahal is one of the greatest.

[@steverogers2799]

Mahal was a good world champion. Even though he was boring in the ring but he looked like a champion and was well spoken and didn't wanted to be a cool and actually got the face that he was feuding with over.

[@adrianostafford8240]

The Modern Day Blah Blah Blahblah?

[@mramos1126]

Ouch!

[@UnsilencedOutspokenTikTok]

@@steverogers2799 he was not over. The fueds he was in were not good with weak builds..The Bollywood boys increased that go away heat, plus WWE only making Jinder champ to appease the Indian market.

[@kingofhuecomundo9394]

Tony Khan give CM Punk the damn AEW championship belt!!!!! SUMMER OF PUNK PART 2 🔥

[@btmz1753]

Part 3

[@markfroman738]

With the longboys on please

[@JackTheripper911]

Summer of punk was fucking garbage when it Happened. They made punk look like a fucking loser. Why would you want that a second time....? Wouldnt you want punk to actually idk, *look good* in his title run? As aposed to looking like a fool?

[@kingofhuecomundo9394]

@@btmz1753 your right but I don't count his last WWE 2014 run

[@alicem3415]

The JR Brett Hart criticism is absurd. If "Quarterback BOB" famously misses a throw in a really specific, embarrassing way, and then decades later another quarterback, "Quarterback JIM," embarrassingly misses a throw in the same way, and the commentator says "wow, shades of Quarterback BOB" do you really think the implication is that the NFL is all a work, and he must have purposely missed the throw? No, of course not, nothing is being implied except that it is reminiscent of something in history.

[@standardofexcellence]

Well actually football is as fake as wrestling for storylines, house money, and narratives they just never break kayfabe and succumb to evil so like a commentator in the nfl would do is tease something that he knows is in the script to happen then does it would.

[@QAZ-OMEN]

Who I remember running chest 1st into the turnbuckle most is Chris Beniot, go rewatch some of his matches vs HHH , and others. "DAMN".... brutal

[@pleaseshutup7053]

Who is that?

[@brianthomas3451]

Stevie Richards you mean

[@EliC09]

@@pleaseshutup7053 He Who Must Not Be Named

[@kalelbalboa283]

Bret originated the spot (at least I think so) and they were brutal. Haven’t seen anyone come close to replicating it. This includes Benoit.

[@QAZ-OMEN]

@@kalelbalboa283 both were experts at it , but were they not both trained in the dungeon?

[@brandonjames7462]

I think it is from the Bucks. They clearly listen to Jim's podcast. Jim and Brian were the first ones to talk about CM Punk and his resent run be similar to Bret's work.

[@twocentsmiguel]

That isn’t true… at all, actually. Punk’s first match in the company took multiple cues from the Bret/Kid match and a lot of his matches have paid obvious homage to Bret since, and we’ve heard as much from Punk himself during interviews and press junkets. It’s common knowledge and has been for some time.

[@brandonjames7462]

@@twocentsmiguel I listen to alot of Podcasts and interviews. I differently could be wrong but the first person I remember actually saying it was Jim. Then afterwards interviewers started asking Punk and he confirmed his Bret connection in matches and then also AEW commentators started openly saying it in his matches.

[@Kr4ShSkeL]

It's false, Punk was the first one to mention it, right after his first AEW match agaisnt Darby

[@Smokey1419]

This opening feels like Frank and Charlie arguing over 'Boys soul'

[@jackjohnson2360]

You gotta pay the troll toll

[@kublayrodriguez3188]

will u take a five?😂

[@evillordbeerus2455]

when the great one said the bung yucks were cool, I did a spit take.

[@insupportofjunhado]

So was being labeled "Ronda" by Brian what you were expecting?

[@JaculaDudek]

Punk and FTR with their Hart family spots are just as bad as Young Bucks with their gymnastics routine - both are obvious examples of in-ring co-operation which is smth that Jim hates so much

[@Voysh2Voysh69]

Pro wrestling, by nature, is in-ring co-operation. Literally anything you do in wrestling is co-operation. If you threw a working punch at me, and I didn’t cooperate with you, then I’d no sell the move & your punch would look like trash. The main point about the gymnastics routine is that it’s so painfully obvious when guys hold each other up on the top rope or run & do cartwheels while the opponent stands still for 10 seconds while the cartwheel & rope bouncing routine is being performed across the ring.

[@abcsin6526]

After this promo,my whole respect for adam page went away!!!also,one tweet criticising booker t!!!

[@bulletchains8205]

i don't get why Jim keeps saying that the Bucks told Page to say that, everybody says shit like that. Cena said Aquaman is tryna be him but can't. Orton said the Club is tryna be the nWo. i didn't view it as anything besides pointing out a guy who not only has SAID he is inspired by Bret, but that the quality of his work is similar to Bret's quality, and that Page is within his anxious character, fearful. because the audience is super behind Punk, and not so much behind Page, so Page is like "stop tryna be Bret" and Punk as another babyface can always go "why are you so scared of me" which is what i'm expecting from this dynamite since Long Island was Bizarro World

[@lawrencepoole9724]

JR has gotten too used to podcasts

[@EarlDogg]

Looking back on this ron or rhonda was right

[@scrappy93]

I think Jim said that to defend Brett from the below avg elite.

[@VULGARxRM]

Page is EASILY one of the worst World Champions of the modern era. Terrible on the mic, mediocre in the ring, and just a banal personality all around. Someone change my mind...

[@andresukerfm7140]

The Young Bucks where Junior HW in NJPW , they where probably not even in the same Lockeroom like Okada or Tanahashi, its amazing how they ended up, i hope Tony is halfway intelligent and the rid of his EVPs. And it has nothing to do with this comments , they should not be on TV

[@TheMagnificentMongoSlade]

Punk literally does Bret Hart spots. He worked Dustin in almost the EXACT same way Bret did when he wrestled Goldust over 20 years ago. He is doing karaoke in the ring. So is FTR.

[@bigdaddyroy5382]

Watch the punk vs wardlow match. He beats him the same way bret beat diesel at Survivor Series

[@Sky_Blaze]

Yep nothing original..it's eye rolling and they wonder why people dont watch.

[@bigdaddyroy5382]

@@Sky_Blaze problem is. They don't care if no one watches. As long their markish fans still watch they are happy

[@joaomendes147]

@@bigdaddyroy5382Why Punk does that?? He can do more than just copying Bret spots and moves. Or can he?? I should stop caring LOL pure lazyness everywhere.

[@bigdaddyroy5382]

@@joaomendes147 why does he do what?

[@berkeleythompson9463]

Let's be real who cares, because for one they cry when two face have a match its wrong, so with cm punk ur ultimate face someone has to be the heel so if Adam Paige is being heel now guess what he is a heel he as not supposed to care about cm punk or Bret hart if he as a heel. Plus when mjf and punk kept using piper in Portland its the same thing.

[@thegreatapeoozaru]

literally Jim kept crying saying fuck the Bucks, Tony, and Hangman for that masturbatory Bret Hart match line. There have been far worse statements said on Dynamite, yet this line gets Brian and Jim to grab their knee pads to dickride Bret. These 2 are hypocrites who don't know what they want in wrestling yet constantly clamor for "Old Wrestling"

[@gamesgeekmak889]

I definitely think Punk has a surprise in store for us at the PPV. Still a legend. Loved playing CM Punk Vs Hangman on my mobile. Amazing what you can do to create this match on WWE 2K22

[@kjd-s5b]

Yeah, about that…

[@Savage-sr6lh]

Tony said hangman best aew champ in its history so he’s cert to beat punk,it’s madness

[@chuckyoudude330]

Jim Cornette is the best mind in wrestling.

[@scorptarget]

💯

[@andrewisjesus]

What a Mark email lmao

[@jamaalmoses8821]

Fart in my face.😂😂😂

[@MrDrokkul]

I'll admit that Bret's turnbuckle spot looked great and BRUTAL. However as a kid I always wondered, "Why is he too dumb to turn his back into the turnbuckle like everyone else?" I swear there were some times where it looked like the ring moved when his sternum hit the turnbuckle. I'm sure it was just good camera work, though.

[@MrDrokkul]

@@sdinma Yeah but you don't think about that too much when you're a kid. Also 99% of the time the camera went to a closeup of the smash into the turnbuckle so you didn't necessarily always see what the other wrestler had done.

[@ronr7905]

WT......? Page cut a promo. He was coming from the perspective of the younger wrestler, an AEW original who hasn't had to address CM Punk until Punk wanted a shot at the title. Now any resentment he may have had from Punk coming in and "taking a spot" in AEW starts to percolate and these feelings come out. Bret Hart being mentioned? AEW scored a big strike against the WWE by putting on the Owen Hart tournament, that was a move that should have been seen as more controversial than it has been. Bret is Owen's brother and was there to present the AEW Championship belt when it debuted. Maybe Bret is coming in to work a small program with Punk as a manager /advisor, or making appearances in AEW in general and all of this is setting the stage for that. I really liked Punk extending his hand to Page last Wednesday. Page stuck his finger in Punk's face and said "Fuck Off! Fuck You!!" Simple, reactionary and perfect. Punk could only smile. Page has the attitude of "Everyone thinks your a great guy but I know better" in regards to Punk and doesn't like Punk calling his shot. I doubt Punk wins the title -- he doesn't need it and the rub for Page is more important.

[@MrZeroFaith]

After last week it wouldn't be shocking if Punk is actually the one to turn heel.

[@danielmarrone4415]

IVE HEARD THAT COMMENT BEFORE ABOUT THE TURNBUCKLE SPOT AND THAT PISSES ME OFF TO NO END!!!!!!

[@qjo5158]

Lol, I still have never seen even a picture of page...oh 😅

[@dang7773]

That line was actually really good, the Bret Hart fellating and copying his matches move for move by Punk and FTR makes the matches look as fake as having guys stand in place to catch an opponent, but of course they can do no wrong to Jim and Brian.

[@AWX_Wrestling]

Tell me your a Bucks/AEW fan without telling your a Bucks/AEW.

[@dang7773]

@@AWX_Wrestling Bucks and AEW are both terrible, and so are these desperate attempts to get Bret to show up on their shows

[@AWX_Wrestling]

@@dang7773 Sure bud, keep telling yourself that.

[@pricelessrx100]

Jim Ross need Jerry Lawler, point blank his commentary haven't been the same since

[@nathantturnert1631]

Yep he kimda sucks these days. Better than excalibur tho.. i dont need that screaming of every maneuver done.

[@isitoveryet9525]

@@nathantturnert1631 he’s not playing the same character. People loved good ol JR.

[@marqryan5218]

I think it's a bit of a stretch to think that Young Bucks could come up with something as acerbic as the Bret Hart comment. I thought it was Great. Page knows that he's nowhere near as over Punk is, and that if he doesn't strike first with a verbal jab, that Punk will eat him alive on the mic. But Punk is smart, so he won't bury Page, unless it's to make a point. Having said that, I am completely over the Bret Hart tribute Wrestlers. Nostalgia is the past time of the morose and depressed. I'm not impressed when you copy and paste a spot, I'm impressed when you create your own.

[@standardofexcellence]

Nostalgia is the past time of the marose and depressed. Sir that is brilliant 👏 everyone needs to realize regardless if the world is more corrupt than ever we must move on time doesn't wait for anyone.

[@natemachado9113]

Straight up Adam Page seems much better off being a heel. When I saw him 1st time ROH he was a heel and seemed very comfy that role. So go ahead and spin him 180 if you're going to get something better out of him. That makes more sense from a money stand point even if it's out of the blue.

[@pleaseshutup7053]

He seems better off in the midcard

[@billywashere6965]

100% agreed. Also, this gives their feud heat it didn't have before. More people are talking about it now than ever before, where most people saw Page as a transitional champ to drop the belt to Punk.

[@sabianescoo]

The champion here in Amarillo tx in Top of Texas is more interesting than Hangman

[@slamrobot6584]

Bret Hart is the GOAT

[@t.y.7562]

Kurt Angle

[@chriscornelius2518]

@@t.y.7562 To me, Angle is the blend of Hart's workmanship and Michael's showmanship. He was just amazing and could do anything. I think if we would have been able to get Angle vs Hart, it would have been the most revered match in history.

[@pleaseshutup7053]

@@t.y.7562 he would be if he didn’t waste his prime in Tna

[@Quaxl]

I thought it was a funny diss. Didn't know people took issue in that line cause I didn't really think about it

[@rl318]

I heard the Brett Hart line on some other podcast. Not totally sure which one, but I think they were heavily in the Elite/Bullet Club camp. But as Jim said before, it is a chicken/egg situation, like how the Briscoes were publically blackballed by comments that had to come from somewhere in the company.

[@theoelliott4649]

Matt and Nick Blackball.

[@bny9318]

Appreciating Bret is awesome but it feels like its going over the board.

[@jarretc110]

What’s funny is that the scuttle butt around the network upfronts is that they want to present pro wrestling as a sport.

[@pleaseshutup7053]

It is a sport

[@kcx1588x]

Adam wants to be known as a somebody because he's a nobody!!! Especially for listening to the young girls!!!

[@johnnyd6135]

I love Jim Ross's commentary of the past but I think Jim Ross is so bored in AEW that when he sees stuff that gives him flashbacks to when wrestling was good, he unfortunately translates his flashback in the wrong manner so it comes of ridiculous sounding sometimes. This was one of those instances with the Bret Hart stuff lol

[@ronniesables9686]

Wow... that just says to me Jr has given up or just doesn't care anymore. What a shame. It's like the end of that ppv they did and Tony said "Look at Darby selling...." it was stupid.

[@michaelgregory9721]

Well since we it's now acceptable to point out how well someone pretends to be hurt and comparing it to a legend, will we now get compliments on blading? JR saying "shades of Abdullah the Butcher" or maybe Excalibur bringing up the Muta scale?

[@mimseydemon1844]

"What it puts in viewers' heads"? Possibility of a heel turn, and maybe a callback to Austin bloody and passing out in the sharpshooter.