Jim Cornette on Arn Anderson's Pay From Jim Crockett Promotions

From Episode 161 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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[@ItsTrinton]

That last line is the biggest thing that separates Cornette's stuff. Most shoots are just opinions or reviews but Corney can lay out a much more complete picture because he kept records. (Still gives opinions of course but how many wrestlers couldn't tell you the town/show/date on their stuff as opposed to what we get here).

[@MADGUNSMONSTER]

EXACTLY. "alot guys didn't keep records, I did." Me too. Funny how alot of people can raise a fork or glass to their gullet, but not a pen to paper.

[@jmc7504]

hopefully some university library gets cornettes wrestling stuff one day

[@staticcharm3808]

@@jmc7504 LOL No university or library is going to want wrestling crap. You guys are too much

[@Timmyk5150]

If I remember, it was $11,700 after taxes. Why he and Tully left, They wrestled a hell of a match against the Midnights in Houston. The very next match, Arn was instructed to lose in 4 minutes to Dr. Death. After the match, he asked Jim Crockett why he wanted him to lose like that after the midnight express match. He told him I'm just doing what Dusty said he wanted to do. That was it for him and told Tully he wanted to hand his notice in the next night, Tully was all too happy to oblige, lol.

[@cbod14]

The reason they left was when TBS was buying the company they interviewed all the top talent to see how they could compete with The WWF. Tully said in an interview that we need new blood on top. Word got back to Dusty & Crockett and they took him off the plane that the main event talent flew on. Tully asked JJ what was up & he said it was just an oversight. Tully replied “I’m 35 years old, I don’t need to be spanked.” “You want the belts tonight in Houston or tomorrow in Philadelphia?” JJ said tomorrow was fine. Tully was leaving but he never thought Arn was coming. I was at the Philadelphia show and still remember after the title switch Tully & Arn holding up four fingers and circling the ring. It’s like they were saying goodbye

[@nubreed4627]

Arn Andersen should've been NWA champion in my opinion

[@nicktucker3437]

I think this is referring to Arn for Starrcade 87 when he said Crockett told him he wanted to pay them 25k for that Starrcade(87) but when Vince sabotaged it, the PPV buy rate ended up being much lower than expected so he was given 11700 Arn has said on his own podcast with Conrad.

[@mrg8581]

A 12,500 payoff during the 1980s would be like making close to 30,000 today. Not bad for one wrestling event. Though I don't blame Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard for going to the WWF.

[@ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother]

Fortunately for Crockett, Nailz wasn’t part of his roster. If Crockett promised Nailz $25,000, he better receive $25,000.

[@ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother]

@John Volken I think so. Nailz would receive his money after all when WCW signed him, put him in only 1 or 2 matches, and kept paying him for a few years.

[@positively_broad_st3780]

25 to life...

[@g7721]

LOL. I picture Nailz's voice they used on WWF tv that was super deep yelling out "Give me my fucking money" to Crocket as he is busting through the office door and Crockets face when he shits himself lol. I know it was very cartoony but I actually like Nailz and Bossmans 92 feud

[@stevenprimo8531]

RIP Charlie from Memphis Tennessee. Passed away after fight in square circle with virus

[@Write-Stuff]

Like, for real?

[@heelspawn8023]

His bald spot looks like the state of Virginia

[@jamirimaj6880]

Arn in the thumbnail looks like FTR did the fusion dance

[@CaptainCock-Strong]

Arn talks about this on his show. It’s 25k and he claims he was promised and shorted that amount.

[@artmeddaugh6669]

I think Arn is talking about the PPV The Great American Bash that happened on July 10th, 1988 in Baltimore.

[@CokinaClutch]

planning to go back soon and watch Arn's run in the NWA.

[@nicholasterzick7140]

The event Arn was talking about was the Bunkhouse Stampede 1988 payoff

[@jfaria4043]

Not just any spot not my dog spot not the spot on my nose MY SPOT.

[@thesupervisor3270]

And he also said he never received merch money until a few years ago 😢

[@dwade6322]

The BLEEP sound reminds me of Saran Wrap being pulled out fast

[@xldonnie]

It sounded like a fart.

[@CyberSlunk]

@@xldonnie If that's how your farts sound then I think you may need to get your ass checked out!

[@joec2704]

I was a wrestling fan from this time and territory and these stories from Corny are fascinating

[@SheltonHull]

Was that the first bleep in Cornette history?

[@RainmakerXBooty]

grading to the ears

[@alphaotakux]

what was bleeped out?

[@MADGUNSMONSTER]

@@alphaotakux A couple of C-bombs as relayed to him by Ole Anderson.

[@pikapika4312]

@@MADGUNSMONSTER no way he’s said cunt without it bleeped

[@prestanmarquis]

@@pikapika4312 I heard bleeps or feed back each time he said it.

[@austinfrazier7325]

Lol the bald spot

[@jeffmac9642]

Wrestling 🤼‍♀️ is so dead. Back in 85 we watched our favorite heros and villains on Saturday morning then went outside with the other kids and rode bikes or played sports in the neighborhood. In 2020 smart fans are discussing what the wrestlers got paid when I was 14 years old 🙄

[@michaele.francis]

Nothing like watching Saturday Morning Cartoons and Wrestling. Those were the days when life was very simple. I was 7 years old back in '85.

[@jeffmac9642]

@@michaele.francis Well the obvious dilemma was 2 younger sisters and one tv setting up superheroes vs Smurfs or Care bears or something Terrible. We had to take turns weekly with cartoons on the 3 channels . 1989 I was long done with WWF and watching WCW but we had a basement tv too at that point and no competition from sisters

[@Matt-cr4vv]

When he discusses the payoff it was for either Starrcade 87 or Bunkhouse 88. He said that Crockett came to him and Tully and told them that he appreciated how hard they’d worked for him and being workhorses like they had been to that point and said in gratitude for their loyalty and sticking with him they’d be paid $25,000 for that show. We all know that those shows got sabotaged by the WWF and didn’t do well in PPV sales like Crockett hoped and/or thought they were going to do. When the money had all come through months later and guys got paid for the show Arn got around half the amount he was promised and took issue since he’d been promised $25,000. And he explains how the amount he received was well above anything he’d have ever expected to receive anyways but that he took issue in being promised one thing and receiving another. He explains further that it ruffled him that Crockett never spoke to them ahead of time to explain what had happened business wise to the show and the damage that was done by the WWF and why he couldn’t afford to honor what he’d said instead paying them what he did without explanation until they went to him to ask why it wasn’t what they were told or was going to be. It boiled down more to feeling a lack of respect than the actual dollar amount for him. But even that didn’t directly lead to leaving but the events of kicking Tully off the plane and the squash match against Dr D. But that the payoff not being what was promised contributed to him losing respect and trust in Crockett for not holding to his word. In the end it was a horrible choice to have ever promised something before the revenues were there by Crockett because if he’d never said something and just chosen to pay them $7,500 let’s say to show appreciation on their payoff they’d have been thrilled with it but because he set an expectation the payoff was a disappointment even when it was the largest he ever received for his career. So much in business stems from what expectations get set.

[@Murph_.]

When asked why Flair was still wrestling in his 60s, his answer was "I would make 10 grand on a show and spend 20 grand that weekend", so he wasn't making $12.5...

[@lagerbeer1974]

The thumbnail even has Arn's thinning bald spot lol.......Hollywood hire this guy will ya?

[@MADGUNSMONSTER]

@NotSnarl Not really. His stuff copies South Park when he's doing a South Park theme character.

[@PilgrimNinja]

“You gotta hook the leg. Tony, he’s gotta hook the leg!” David Crockett

[@louis3141]

I’m sure if Jim said cunt in an English accent KZbin would allow it 😂

[@abiparr2804]

The worse scouse (Liverpool) accent I've ever heard

[@Hollows1997]

It is horrendous.

[@radicalstanza3614]

worst*

[@jenisia3600]

Starrcade 86 was Ole and Arn in a steel cage against RnR in one of the best tag match in Starrcade (that also might be the 1st time he did the spinebuster). AA one of the best ever to never win the main title, such a beast in the Mic and psychology wise, a true Pro Wrestler.

[@misternewman1576]

Travis Bickle makes some great art!

[@user-do2ev2hr7h]

IIRC Arn did specifically mention the Great American Bash when he said that.

[@JimmyHall68]

This is the video he speaks about it on. Arn Anderson on his biggest payday in wrestling TheArnShow

[@vanessabonner6104]

I wonder what Cornette thinks about Sam Houston(endless talent)

[@damonpolk4394]

Now I'm curious as to how much Rock 'n' Roll Express was paid?

[@jamesfaragoza5782]

Arn was a midcarder. He wasn't ric flair. He was Arn. He wasn't Shawn Michael's, he was Marty Jannetty

[@freespeechisdead1565]

Your grammar is mid card at best.

[@natureboy1313]

Yea, but Arn was a helluva lot better on the mic than Marty Jannetty. His promos were classics.

[@ftw1980]

Marty jannetty is not even in the same universe as Arn aderson

[@freespeechisdead1565]

@@ftw1980 I agree with this. Young wrestlers study tapes of Arn Anderson on every level (fundamentals in ring, telling a story, and promos). No one studies Marty Janetty, unless they want to see how to become a dope fiend and lose a career.

[@P8NPrivTV]

What word was censored with the static?

[@Halbared]

I think that was Golbornian

[@Blaklyon0]

Arn reminds me of that one uncle at the family bbq, not fucking around with the kids shit... At all!

[@moxon80]

Was that meant to be a scouse accent?!! Aaaahahaha!

[@1fridays]

He said it was for the bash pay per view in 88

[@Dakatari]

Lol wow he even included Arn's bald spot in the image. It seems as Ric and Dusty was the only one making money under Jim Crockett

[@kennymcbair7323]

I’m Watching Re-Runs🤠😂 Cause I’m a HooDoo! child

[@CatsClaw44]

Could you imagine if Arn and Tully had gotten to Crockett before Corny and the Midnight? The Horsemen would have stayed together and the feud with the Midnight Express would have continued because they more than likely would not have left.

[@jeffmac9642]

$10,000 in 1985 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $24,189.59 in 2020

[@ProtomanButCallMeBlues]

Was that per show? Or for a series of shows?

[@jeffmac9642]

@@ProtomanButCallMeBlues How in the blue heck would anybody know that or even care?

[@TNLable]

Well JCP means: Jabronis Compensated Poorly Jim's Cut Payment Jobbers Caught Payless Jim Cutpay Promotions

[@804video5]

What book is Cornette talking about?

[@TheJaviferrol]

I cannot wait to hear Jim on Pockets taking Cody to the limit and almost beating him

[@King4sshole89]

He's going to lose his shit. Fifteen minutes, at least.

[@TrueWisdomAsherite80]

@Metropcs Metropcs you should tell Jim that....lol

[@TrueWisdomAsherite80]

@Metropcs Metropcs cant argue with that 💯

[@tobiasfarragut292]

Got the blunt rolled up and ready for that vid

[@stephenrogers4537]

Did not Bruiser Brody get $1000000 he went to Japan and a contract about that time?🤔🤑

[@philipclarke9696]

25,000 a week minimum I believe and if the gates went over he got more which was unheard of at the time in Japan. Hansen had the same deal. Doc and Gordy had similar later on without the guarantee .

[@chrischar9428]

@@philipclarke9696 25 thousand a week seems a little bit High

[@DakotaDidYou]

Damn. Could you find a more ear grading sound to use to bleep that? Please for future reference do not use that again.

[@williamsiders5665]

RIP My ears on that C static.

[@richardlafoy8111]

Arn and Jake the snake had the best DDT's ever

[@Pogo113]

Jake should have the best, he invented it.

[@talkoftheday9861]

The fact of the matter is tony schavonne!!! Arns catch phrase

[@tobiasfarragut292]

And “Thank you the pleasure has been all yours”

[@talkoftheday9861]

@@tobiasfarragut292 true

[@tobiasfarragut292]

@@talkoftheday9861 ‘member Jimmy Boogie Woogie man always called him “TONY SCHIAVON-TO!

[@talkoftheday9861]

@@tobiasfarragut292boogie woogie was something else

[@tobiasfarragut292]

@@talkoftheday9861 saw the Lawler argument when he called Jimmy a faget this morning 😆

[@sandyunderpants4376]

So in other words: Nobody really remembers. Which is good because we fans don't care. Btw, Arn's bald spot is so lifelike in this depiction.

[@lsdecaria1]

I'm a mark.

[@walterspencer7524]

So no more swearing?

[@MichaelSmith-fq6hz]

I'm guessing KZbin advertisers discourage a certain word that rhymes with the last name of Allen Funt.

[@couchslouch13]

yeh what's with that

[@evolvedcopper2205]

Any idea what platforms i can catch corny's podcasts where the app is free and the content is uncensored? Anyone at all? Make yourself a legend 😂

[@evolvedcopper2205]

@Joe Greene a name of literally any of these apps, Joe?

[@itchyj32]

I like how jim can say every word under the sun say the craziest shit and yet there are 2 words out there that had to be bleeped? lol n bomb? f bomb? im curious what words the youtube gods think are too naughty for us

[@mattcollins1603]

C word

[@itchyj32]

@@mattcollins1603 like cee you next Tuesday? I swear he's said that before talking about british language

[@mattcollins1603]

@@itchyj32 yup unfortunately yt is brainless sometimes

[@dustyhaynes8817]

Jim makes the express out to be much more than they were.

[@ZBR_ProXP]

Personally I’m never interested in the payoff discussions

[@chrischar9428]

So then don't click on the clip twat waffle

[@ZBR_ProXP]

@@chrischar9428 I was using the comment section to voice an opinion like an adult. How about you?

[@chrischar9428]

@@ZBR_ProXP then don't click on the link once you click on the link and here with the topic is turn it off that's what I do that's what an adult does

[@rudirey569]

Cunting censorship in a Jim Cornette clip? Thumbs down !

[@TheHermitsQuarters]

STRONGLY agree with this. Jim, please say this is just an experimental thing!

[@andrewgraham6339]

What fucking accent was that, Jim?

[@adriandonnovan6597]

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