Jim Cornette on Gimmick Replacements

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2 жыл бұрын

From Bonus Episode 1 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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@kilojayfalcon
@kilojayfalcon 2 жыл бұрын
Super thankful for the bonus content lately. i just lost my grandfather to start my 2022, and it's Jims wit and humor that can bring me back to ground zero and look in the positives looking forward, much like my grandpa would teach me to do. Thank you Mr. Cornette for your work 🙏
@blacktoothfox677
@blacktoothfox677 2 жыл бұрын
bless ya
@richardjoyce4826
@richardjoyce4826 2 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace jim really dose help alot of people throw tough times even if he doesn't realize it
@non-stickderich7112
@non-stickderich7112 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss mate.
@aluminumsalmongames6277
@aluminumsalmongames6277 2 жыл бұрын
My condolences, losing a loved one any time is hard. But this early in the year is a kick in the teeth.
@Mr.BeastFacts
@Mr.BeastFacts 2 жыл бұрын
I remember Diesel and Razor were gone for a while, but then they came back good as new!
@WRESTLINGXNBA
@WRESTLINGXNBA 2 жыл бұрын
Just had a couple plastic surgeries and then came back looking just fine!
@starshipfame1
@starshipfame1 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. The new Razor Ramon couldn’t throw a punch if it was attached to a baseball. It was cringy everytime he threw one
@WRESTLINGXNBA
@WRESTLINGXNBA 2 жыл бұрын
@Josh Stephens hey josh, Vince McMahon is right and you and all your wraslin’ fans are wrong! We are sports entertainment!
@paranoidewok6772
@paranoidewok6772 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair fake diesel turned out to be the best out of the 4.
@myquest666420
@myquest666420 2 жыл бұрын
@@starshipfame1 compared to the old razor, who threw the best working punch in wrestling lol
@arturoalmazan5262
@arturoalmazan5262 2 жыл бұрын
the time when WCW tried to imitate the Ultimate warriors character. the Renegade guy gimmick sucked so bad. I'm sure Jim Hellwig was mad as hell when they did that shit lol
@davidlayne4147
@davidlayne4147 2 жыл бұрын
How about when Tom Zenk left the Cam-Am Connection in the WWF. When Zenk left, Tito Santana was asked to join Rick Martel and they became Strike Force.
@DolFan316
@DolFan316 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, I think we can count that one as a success, fellas. Good call 👏👏👏
@chrischar9428
@chrischar9428 2 жыл бұрын
Different team.
@Flymurd
@Flymurd 2 жыл бұрын
Jim may have originally been thinking of Col. DeBeers with the AWA thing.
@slwalsh
@slwalsh 2 жыл бұрын
Cornette would have met the Corporal at WM17. For some weird reason I will ALWAYS remember that Kirchner was announced in the 1st group of folks for the gimmick battle royal - and then the next week, he’d vanished from the match lineup.
@myinnerelement
@myinnerelement 2 жыл бұрын
He got booted from the card even though he was advertised
@FerretJohn
@FerretJohn 2 жыл бұрын
Cpl. Kirchner was actually a legit former US Army Paratrooper, 82nd Airborne, before getting into wrestling. He was discovered by Hulk Hogan at Hogan's gym who introduced him to Verne Gagne, sending him to Gagne's school. Unfortunately while he had the legit real world credentials and a superior physique he just wasn't the Sarge.
@MrMaximus1959
@MrMaximus1959 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It was hard to get over as a Military gimmick with Sgt. Slaughter already established.
@jeffblacky
@jeffblacky 2 жыл бұрын
i knew that guy from my time in the military -= nice dude
@HellhammerSS
@HellhammerSS 2 жыл бұрын
Nice guy, but do not cross him. He gots them heavens gate eyes.
@realazduffman
@realazduffman 2 жыл бұрын
He's an E-3 and Sarge was an E-4.
@johnpenguinthe3rd13
@johnpenguinthe3rd13 2 жыл бұрын
Corporal Kirchner's 2nd major run in the United States after his 1980's WWF (WWE) run was during 1991 for the UWF.... Herb Abram's UWF. I think 95% of us here have seen the Herb Abram's episode of Darkside of the Ring to know how that turned out. LOL. Kirchner returned to Japan after that in his Leatherface gimmick (which looked extremely similar to Mick Foley's Mankind gimmick... Foley as Cactus Jack even worked with Kirchner as Leatherface in Japan a few times).
@amodernphoenix
@amodernphoenix 2 жыл бұрын
Superfly Sivi Afi had, "Very unusual wrestling maneuvers, " according to Bruno Sammartino on commentary in that match. Helluva buildup...
@carleton4199
@carleton4199 2 жыл бұрын
The Fantastics were the same gimmick as The Fabulous Ones, even came out to "Sharp Dressed Man" and they were successful. The Great Muta was more successful than The Great Kabuki. Muta was originally billed as Kabuki's son if I recall correctly, but it was the same gimmick.
@bradpaton3927
@bradpaton3927 2 жыл бұрын
"[Muta....Muta....,] are you a warrior?"
@phildodson6141
@phildodson6141 2 жыл бұрын
The original fantastics were in 83 Chattanooga.....the fantastic ones they were called. Bobby Fulton and Terry taylor!
@redauerbach2753
@redauerbach2753 2 жыл бұрын
Boy you smoke that hard gimmick
@teetime6792
@teetime6792 2 жыл бұрын
Right on Carleton! They sure were. Hated those guys. Loved seeing the Fantastics get clobbered.
@davidlayne4147
@davidlayne4147 2 жыл бұрын
@@phildodson6141 I was watching some Southwest Championship Wrestling the other day and I saw Bobby Fulton teaming with Tony Falk. Falk, who later on infamously became 'Boy Tony' in Memphis. Fulton was doing the finger pointing and shaking his butt prior to his days with the Fantastics. But the entire time I couldn't help but laugh because he was teaming with 'Boy Tony'.
@Ben-nh9xw
@Ben-nh9xw 2 жыл бұрын
Being from New York I thought that was Curtis Sliwa
@mrg8581
@mrg8581 2 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Corporal Kirchner
@mercoid
@mercoid 2 жыл бұрын
Corporal was the most logical rank to assign him. Private is too lowly, Sargent was taken, and anything higher would be too “upity”
@ADrunkBassist
@ADrunkBassist 2 жыл бұрын
It could have been Lieutenant Dan
@PaulieD1984
@PaulieD1984 2 жыл бұрын
@@ADrunkBassist zach gowen should've got that gimmick
@ADrunkBassist
@ADrunkBassist 2 жыл бұрын
@@PaulieD1984 haha holy shit fk yeah
@tobiasfarragut292
@tobiasfarragut292 Жыл бұрын
@@PaulieD1984last time I remember genuine tears of laughter during a wrestling match, that match against big show with Mr America 🇺🇸 in the kids corner One legged moonsault 😂🤣
@bkprimo1
@bkprimo1 2 жыл бұрын
Actually Curly followed Shemp, who was arguably the star in the original incarnation of The Stooges. Check your facts Jim!
@spidey1z
@spidey1z 2 жыл бұрын
Wow someone is a Three Stooges fan and historian. Most people don’t realize Shemp was on the vaudeville circuit and replaced for the shorts.
@dejuans1328
@dejuans1328 2 жыл бұрын
True. Shemp left to pursue serious acting gigs and came back when Curly couldn't perform anymore.
@frenchabortion
@frenchabortion 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter when you’re a “Fake Shemp”
@michaelmarino7391
@michaelmarino7391 2 жыл бұрын
Droz trying to replace Hawk in LOD & The New Midnight Express (Bart Gunn & Bob Holly) come to mind during the Attitude Era.
@michaelmfwayne
@michaelmfwayne 2 жыл бұрын
Droz as a Road Warrior was equally as bad as Heidenreich as a Road Warrior
@DolFan316
@DolFan316 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmfwayne IMO Heidenreich was much worse.
@dont_follow5777
@dont_follow5777 2 жыл бұрын
I was at that MSG show. That's an easy way to ruin a push before it even started.
@rugalb98
@rugalb98 2 жыл бұрын
Kirchsner's masked gimmick run in Japan was of the chainsaw wielding killer Leatherface even teamed up with Cactus Jack for a hardcore match. Maybe Vince thought of that when he decided to give Terry Funk that awful Chainsaw Charlie gimmick. lol
@fandangoandcash5267
@fandangoandcash5267 2 жыл бұрын
You mean the terrible Chainsaw Charlie idea that was Terry’s idea? Vince approved it but you can hear Terry in interviews talk about where he came up with the idea.
@ThrashAD720
@ThrashAD720 2 жыл бұрын
@@fandangoandcash5267 Yea Terry was trying to get Super Leather in WWF in 97.
@chrishollister80
@chrishollister80 2 жыл бұрын
I think the worst replacement in pro wrestling history was Lance Von Eric. Knowing how over the Von Erics were in WCCW, and knowing what that family had been through, and what the fans had been through with them, it was like a direct slap in the face. I honestly don't know if the fans ever forgave Fritz for that.
@arturoalmazan5262
@arturoalmazan5262 2 жыл бұрын
thats true. I grew up watching world class , and seeing a guy posing as a von erich was not only bad but distasteful for the memory of David Von erich. Fritz was losing his mind back then no wonder Gary hart and others went to NWA and Mid south wrestling
@maxxdahl6062
@maxxdahl6062 2 жыл бұрын
@@arturoalmazan5262 Not really, Gary was always on the fritz train. He hated Joe blanchard and paul bosch just because they broke away from fritz.
@mattpomara1967
@mattpomara1967 2 жыл бұрын
Hate to admit to you, I like lance
@tobiasfarragut292
@tobiasfarragut292 Жыл бұрын
Watching WCCW since the Jan 82’ show they have as “Season one Ep 1” lol I’m in March 84’ David died a month ago and I’m waiting for the Lance Days to see how tepid and bullshit it comes off..Mike Von Erich just got there too
@gregorykrug8034
@gregorykrug8034 2 жыл бұрын
Barry Windham replacing Lex Luger in The Four Horsemen worked well.
@stinkypinkeee5085
@stinkypinkeee5085 2 жыл бұрын
Heu Jim, here's a oiece for ya: Shemp was actually the original Stooge when they worked Vaudeville with Ted Healey...he left the trouoe to make Palooka Joe films, and Jerome "Curly" Howard, Mo's other Brother, and Vaudevillian in his own right, shaved his head, uttered the immortal phrase "Call me Curly," and proceeded to bust the box office....
@isiahlee8845
@isiahlee8845 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone else knows that.
@gregorykrug8034
@gregorykrug8034 2 жыл бұрын
@@Treklosopher It is subjective, but I think Shemp was great. Curly and Shemp were on a higher level than Joe, but to be fair to Joe, Curly and Shemp were already dead. Curly Joe was not good, but, again, Curly and Shemp were dead and Joe was just contractually a Stooge to fulfill their contract.
@archiemisc
@archiemisc 2 жыл бұрын
@@gregorykrug8034 Curly is still my favorite, but Shemp had his moments too. He was the physical guy like curly, but had his own style. Joe Besser was unwatchable though.
@gregorykrug8034
@gregorykrug8034 2 жыл бұрын
@@archiemisc Joe Besser was weak and so was Joe DeRita, but it was either that or nothing.
@CornBreadtm1
@CornBreadtm1 2 жыл бұрын
The worst was Diesel and Razor. That was on national television. Like pissing in public.
@outlawrip-offartist4161
@outlawrip-offartist4161 2 жыл бұрын
Fake diesel and fake razor was shown around the world.
@iamdb1990
@iamdb1990 2 жыл бұрын
... pissing in public? what? lol
@starshipfame1
@starshipfame1 2 жыл бұрын
I immediately thought of Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan (Buddy Rogers and Billy Graham)
@Savage-sr6lh
@Savage-sr6lh 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on,they stole so much of so many
@yoholmes273
@yoholmes273 Жыл бұрын
Corporal Kirchner was LEATHERFACE in Japan. Had a great run in the deathmatch scene in the early 90s
@jasonjimerson7046
@jasonjimerson7046 2 жыл бұрын
Hearing that bit with the 3 Stooges did remind me that there was one Stooges short that did have both Shemp and Curly in it. But Curly was playing a character that was not Curly. He was just playing the part of a sleeping man on a train who sounded familiar.
@accnt22
@accnt22 2 жыл бұрын
For the record the Curly shorts were the best stooge shorts but I'm a huge Shemp fan. He was underrated
@bigglilwayne7050
@bigglilwayne7050 2 жыл бұрын
Moe was the man, though lol
@hawggie
@hawggie 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Shemp was the original third Stooge when it was a stage act. He didn't want to be on camera, so when Hollywood called, little brother Curley took over
@milojohnson6068
@milojohnson6068 2 жыл бұрын
Moe Larry Shemp and Curly rule! It's Curly Joe and regular Joe that suck. Long live Moe Larry Curly and Shemp!
@trappenweisseguy27
@trappenweisseguy27 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the phone booth scene in “Scrambled Brains” for some Shemp content.
@michaeltucker9950
@michaeltucker9950 2 жыл бұрын
As far as bad replacements go, a case can be made for the “New” Diesel & Razor Ramon having a spot on that Mount Rushmore! Absolutely embarrassing!!
@solefoodbrand1699
@solefoodbrand1699 Жыл бұрын
Mean Mark Callous replacing Sid Vicious in the Skyscrapers, THEN Mike Enos replacing Spivey for a one off appearance
@nunyabizniss3451
@nunyabizniss3451 2 жыл бұрын
Bray Wyatt is probably a more successful version of Waylon Mercy.
@kevindouglas5333
@kevindouglas5333 2 жыл бұрын
He was actually in the military unlike Slaughter...Thank you for your service
@kacebox174
@kacebox174 2 жыл бұрын
Al "Leif Cassidy" Snow replacing Shawn Michaels in the Rockers. Gary Cherone having to follow up both David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar in Van Halen. Just about every Dolphins quarterback since Dan Marino retired.
@willjohnboy
@willjohnboy 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair al "leif cassidy" snow joined the rockers 5 years after the original rockers split its not like they were still a team when shawn was replaced.
@milojohnson6068
@milojohnson6068 2 жыл бұрын
Cherone should've stuck with Nuno or vice versa. However, Cherone's lyrics with VH3 were very pro working class, at least on a couple of songs, so good job Gary.
@DolFan316
@DolFan316 2 жыл бұрын
Did you REALLY have to throw in that last one? 😠
@kevindouglas5333
@kevindouglas5333 2 жыл бұрын
Just saw the Siva Afi thing. They really overstated what happened
@michaelbritt3137
@michaelbritt3137 2 жыл бұрын
I think The Lord Humungous character being picked up in South Eastern wrestling after in Tennessee was a great run!
@DolFan316
@DolFan316 2 жыл бұрын
I won't say the name of the guy who played Lord Humongous in Memphis (everybody around Memphis knows already and so do most smarks anyway) but he HATES it when anybody mentions that to him these days.
@michaelbritt3137
@michaelbritt3137 2 жыл бұрын
@@DolFan316 haha I see. I think Jeff Van Camp did a great job in the mid south area as well, though he wasn’t the original lol
@asoncalledvoonch2210
@asoncalledvoonch2210 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Doink The Clown 🤡 ?
@kacebox174
@kacebox174 2 жыл бұрын
Useless Trivia: Kirshner lost the WWF's first ever PPV match, to Adrian Adonis.
@kevindouglas5333
@kevindouglas5333 2 жыл бұрын
Um no. The Wrestling Classic wasn't on ppv. Common misconception
@geoffreyfranklin5890
@geoffreyfranklin5890 2 жыл бұрын
The WWF Wrestling Classic was the first ppv made available to the entire U.S. Wrestlemania 1 was a closed circuit event that may have been available on ppv only in the New York area.
@milojohnson6068
@milojohnson6068 2 жыл бұрын
Adrian Adonis was a fat weak sissified version of the great Continental Championship Wresting heel and multi time champion the Exotic Adrian Street. You remember, the guy who "eats a dozen t-bones for an early morning snack. So imagine what I could do to you" a British legend and, according to a former jobber I currently work with, a legitimate bad ass.
@stephonandrews7576
@stephonandrews7576 2 жыл бұрын
Jim Cornette you gotta do a weekly review of the STARZ TV Show "Heels", your insight is needed!
@solefoodbrand1699
@solefoodbrand1699 Жыл бұрын
I really wish they would cover Heels instead of Young Rock.
@xGodofAcidx
@xGodofAcidx 2 жыл бұрын
Hulk Hogan left but then Lex Luger came in and everything was just gre... oh.. uh, nevermind.
@evolvedcopper2205
@evolvedcopper2205 2 жыл бұрын
"I DON' KNOW" going through my head (yes, I know it wasnt in WWF when it happened)
@gorewhoreproductions8972
@gorewhoreproductions8972 2 жыл бұрын
Demolition Smash could be an example of a successful replacement perhaps? Barry Darsow was much more successful than the three matches that Randy Colley had as Smash who everyone recognized as a Moondog.
@charliewebb6348
@charliewebb6348 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Thoughts on Crush? Not nearly as good as Ax, but seemed to be relatively over by the time Ax was totally phased out...
@yesthisisvic
@yesthisisvic 2 жыл бұрын
No. Barry Darsow was a performer replacement, not gimmick. He was still the Smash character. Performer replacements were common in the days of heavy face paint and masks. Give you an example: Dan Spivey. His entire gimmick was created to invoke the image of Hulk Hogan. Had he had a modicum of talent or work ethic he may have had a chance. Instead, he's remembered as nothing but a cheap carbon copy that did even less in the ring than Hogan himself. And no, Glenn Jacobs and Richard Bognar as "Fake" Diesel and Razor Ramon, respectively, don't qualify as 'gimmick replacements' because both were given the original gimmicks and presented to the audience as such. Gimmick replacement is to assign the same exact gimmick to a different character after the original character is no longer in use. In these cases the characters weren't replaced, only the performers that portrayed them.
@yesthisisvic
@yesthisisvic 2 жыл бұрын
@@charliewebb6348 Crush was Brian Adams. Crush didn't replace a gimmick, he was added as a piece to an existing gimmick as Demolition was the gimmick which from its inception was created to feature multiple characters. Smash replaced Ax, but the Demolition gimmick was unchanged.
@MrMaximus1959
@MrMaximus1959 2 жыл бұрын
@@yesthisisvic Smash didn’t replace AX. They were together, and added Crush as their third member. Eventually all were phased out, and Crush became a strong 💪 guy, powerhouse Hobb type character, and Barry Darsow was brought back as Repo Man. Crush died, and Repo Man was changed again, but I can’t remember to who. It was short, didn’t get over, and that was it. Maybe i’m wrong, it’s been 25+ years.
@epicproportionsmediaproduc6697
@epicproportionsmediaproduc6697 Жыл бұрын
@@MrMaximus1959 Smash didn’t replace Ax, he replaced Smash. The original Smash was played by one of the Moondogs, but the fans recognized him and kept chanting “Moondog”, so he was replaced by Barry very early in Demolition’s run.
@crowdpleaser2k
@crowdpleaser2k 2 жыл бұрын
No George Lazenby slander will be allowed. As far as the Stooges...Shemp is Dennis, Curly is Stan
@MrLuckytrucker21
@MrLuckytrucker21 2 жыл бұрын
The corporal Kirshner guy just died 10 days ago!
@Briansgate
@Briansgate 2 жыл бұрын
Has to be Undertaker. How many people actually remember Barry Windham being ' The Widowmaker?'
@RobTheUndertaker
@RobTheUndertaker 2 жыл бұрын
Similar but different, the Undertaker was a undead mortician. The widow maker was based on a gunfighter cowboy gimmick.
@Briansgate
@Briansgate 2 жыл бұрын
@@RobTheUndertaker did you actually SEE Windham dressed up in the gimmick? Western leather duster, pretty much like 'Takers.
@RobTheUndertaker
@RobTheUndertaker 2 жыл бұрын
@@Briansgate yeah, that's why I said similar but not the same.
@truckshackley373
@truckshackley373 2 жыл бұрын
The only gimmick replacement I can think of is Doink The Clown
@tonyjackson4078
@tonyjackson4078 2 жыл бұрын
Switching Al Snow for Shawn Michaels. Woof.
@gripstrength
@gripstrength 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking, what about the Sheepherders? Wasn't there a dude that stepped in for a time?
@DavidRagan3134
@DavidRagan3134 2 жыл бұрын
Would putting Tito with Rick Martel as Strike Force after Tom Zenk left the Can-Am Connection count?
@DolFan316
@DolFan316 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Yes it would.
@solefoodbrand1699
@solefoodbrand1699 Жыл бұрын
A year later, this is still platinum.
@ethanedwards7557
@ethanedwards7557 2 жыл бұрын
Dan Spivey replacing Barry Windham as Mike Rotundo’s partner.
@azapro911
@azapro911 2 жыл бұрын
Depending on your parameters, Ric Flair. Wasn't a 'replacement' as such but Buddy Rogers had already become a legend with the 'Nature Boy' gimmick, Flair adopted it and became even more successful.
@redauerbach2753
@redauerbach2753 2 жыл бұрын
🙄
@teetime6792
@teetime6792 2 жыл бұрын
Good job azapro! I thought the exact same thing.
@relaxandgetoverit8393
@relaxandgetoverit8393 2 жыл бұрын
Grammar please! Is it too much to ask to want want to read competent replies?
@redauerbach2753
@redauerbach2753 2 жыл бұрын
@@relaxandgetoverit8393 you are the Lex Luger of the comment section.
@bigglilwayne7050
@bigglilwayne7050 2 жыл бұрын
No matter how you word it, the fact is that Flair stole the man's fk'n gimmick
@MrJjburgess11
@MrJjburgess11 2 жыл бұрын
JBL was the newer version of Ted DiBiase. Then they did it again with Alberto Del Rio.
@HellNation
@HellNation 2 жыл бұрын
The New Brood, Gangrel and The Hardy Boyz (replacing Edge and Christian) were pretty good and then even better as themselves The Hardy Boyz in their late 90's and early 2000's WWF run
@mattpomara1967
@mattpomara1967 2 жыл бұрын
How about Dan Spivey replacing Barry Windham in the US Express
@hollywood21639
@hollywood21639 2 жыл бұрын
I had the corporal k. Ljn figure as a kid and he was the only one I didn't know who the hell he was. I never saw one of his WWF matches back then.
@herzkine
@herzkine Жыл бұрын
I didn't know he existed until today and I know some jobbers from the 90s 😂
@murraykelm5691
@murraykelm5691 2 жыл бұрын
Kirschner had a short run in Calgary
@heisensaul5538
@heisensaul5538 2 жыл бұрын
Corny looks good with a beard. I agree Shemp was not Curly, no one could be Curly. However, given the circumstances I think he was good as a stooge. I would say his work is excellent if you overlook that he was replacing a sick Curly.
@SAM-ru4vx
@SAM-ru4vx 2 жыл бұрын
Midnight rockers for rock & roll in AWA? Eddie Gilbert as king👑working USWA?
@chrischar9428
@chrischar9428 2 жыл бұрын
Rock n roll weren't in awa
@gregorylevi1826
@gregorylevi1826 2 жыл бұрын
The Fantastics were successful in making a switch. Tommy Rogers replaced Jackie Fulton and The Fantastics never missed a beat.
@kevindouglas5333
@kevindouglas5333 2 жыл бұрын
Um no...Tommy was first replaced by Jackie and it was shit
@johnnyd6135
@johnnyd6135 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if there is any footage of that SUPERFLY thing on youtube or somewhere else to see that? The way Bryan described that was so funny It's got to be even funnier to see that video clip
@frankbonini7085
@frankbonini7085 Жыл бұрын
Siva Afi Came in as Superfly Afi, Then Went Back to Siva Afi ...
@yamochanchan
@yamochanchan 2 жыл бұрын
I mean... Charlotte is basicly female Ric Flair. Does that count?
@DrRonThomasJr
@DrRonThomasJr 2 жыл бұрын
Kirchner worked here in Florida on an Indy card with Adrian Street, Ox Baker, and the Malenko Brothers about 1989 (?)
@timshelton67
@timshelton67 6 ай бұрын
Bonus points for the Rudy Ray Moore mention
@johngallagher72
@johngallagher72 2 жыл бұрын
The worst one had to Danny Spivey. Were we not supposed to realize it wasn't Barry Windham.
@smokemonster4744
@smokemonster4744 2 жыл бұрын
Lol i hope this is a troll post lol cause Spivey and Windham were 2 different people lol
@bigglilwayne7050
@bigglilwayne7050 2 жыл бұрын
@@smokemonster4744 Exactly lol
@blacktoothfox677
@blacktoothfox677 2 жыл бұрын
@@smokemonster4744 all that matters is that neither of 'em were Rotunda
@johngallagher72
@johngallagher72 2 жыл бұрын
@@smokemonster4744 in late 85 Barry Windham was burned out so he and Mike Rotunda dropped the tag belts to Valentine and Beefcake. Fast forward to early to 1986 and WWF TV starts announcing the return of the US Express. So fans are expecting Windham and Rotunda to get a return series against the Dream Team. But surprisingly coming out to Born in USA with the same attire ..same US Olympic jackets same US flag kerchief , is someone who looks remarkably similar to Barry Windham ...same long blond hair and tall gangly physique. Spivey himself tells you in shoot videos he was brought in as Windhams replacement in US Express tag team with Rotunda .
@DolFan316
@DolFan316 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't Windham play a fake Sting in an angle once? That to me would've ben much worse.
@doclank3d6
@doclank3d6 2 жыл бұрын
He died about a week ago. May he rest in peace.
@ChrisWoollett
@ChrisWoollett 2 жыл бұрын
Kirchner was the last wrestler to pass away of 2021 back in December which also included Jimmy Rave (famous for having toilet paper thrown at him [how did the toilet paper throwing at Rave meme start anyway?] and was 39 when he died on December 12th) and Blackjack Lanza.
@JKimma8080
@JKimma8080 2 жыл бұрын
Guys! He was Leatherface in USWA and Japan.
@brianhanson5234
@brianhanson5234 2 жыл бұрын
Cpl Kirschener was in Stamepede for a while.
@vinceraven1501
@vinceraven1501 8 ай бұрын
Kirschner became Super Leather in FMW as well..
@carlosgarza7243
@carlosgarza7243 2 жыл бұрын
Moondogs??? There was like 5 of them 🤷🏻‍♂️
@stinkypinkeee5085
@stinkypinkeee5085 2 жыл бұрын
Rudy Ray Moore! HA!
@plan9tek
@plan9tek 2 жыл бұрын
there were actually a few Tarzan actors.
@jacksonweissenfluh5026
@jacksonweissenfluh5026 2 жыл бұрын
Trying to find that video of Super fly you’re talking about but I don’t know how to spell the name.
@jadenkendam
@jadenkendam Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to ask Jim Cornette about Kirshner but wasn't sure he was around long enough.
@SynDC6
@SynDC6 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t Cpl Kierschner a buddy of Sgt Slaughter in his AWA days? I remember he had a marine tag team partner there.
@jlover911
@jlover911 Жыл бұрын
no that was someone else
@SynDC6
@SynDC6 Жыл бұрын
@@jlover911 Who?
@mauricebarlow4844
@mauricebarlow4844 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr Cornette Super fly sifi afi that crap was horrible haha ha .
@ricolewis2949
@ricolewis2949 2 жыл бұрын
Sivi went to prison in Cuyahoga County (Cleveland Ohio) for a robbery when I was a kid. It was on the news. I think he did 12 years WUAB 43 Lorain Cleveland
@mauricebarlow4844
@mauricebarlow4844 2 жыл бұрын
Sad for him wrestling promoters suck
@benitopulatso6637
@benitopulatso6637 2 жыл бұрын
In defense of Shemp Howard, he was the original third Stooge, but had left when they were a stage act (and was going his own comedy), before they started making the short films.
@theronmitchell3073
@theronmitchell3073 2 жыл бұрын
Fake diesel and Razor. New Midnight express, New blackjacks, crush replacing axe in demolition, New rockers all unsuccessful
@stevensingleton6742
@stevensingleton6742 2 жыл бұрын
.Superstar Billy Graham - Hulk Hogan .Roger's - Flair .Monty Brown - Lashley .Bret Hart - Owen Hart .Tully, Arn, Ollie and Gene
@michaelmfwayne
@michaelmfwayne 2 жыл бұрын
Monty Brown's entire personality was ripped from The Rock
@leroyhockenberry8592
@leroyhockenberry8592 Жыл бұрын
What about when Bob Holly teamed with Robert Gibson to form the new rock ‘n’ roll Xpress? In the NWL
@MilMaska
@MilMaska 2 жыл бұрын
"You are gonna rebuild me as what. The six million dollar man ?" -HonkyTonkMan
@michaelstefanichjr2181
@michaelstefanichjr2181 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the Minnesota Wrecking. Crew. Lars and Gene to Gene and Ole to Ole and Arn To some extent the Horsemen. Always a debate on the best group Windham vs Ole
@mackredsnapper
@mackredsnapper 2 жыл бұрын
Windham.....IMO
@taylorstillman7932
@taylorstillman7932 2 жыл бұрын
Windham.
@OnlyShawn657
@OnlyShawn657 2 жыл бұрын
Jay Lethal had a great run as Black Machismo
@mattpomara1967
@mattpomara1967 2 жыл бұрын
Kirschner was an NWA jobber, I tried to prove it as a kid and my friends thought I was nuts
@kevinconnor3187
@kevinconnor3187 2 жыл бұрын
RIP, he was a fan favourite for sure.
@billyblueification
@billyblueification 2 жыл бұрын
The New Rockers
@spidey1z
@spidey1z 2 жыл бұрын
The worst and best replacements happened in the same group. Luger didn’t fit in the Four Horsmen but Wyndham was meant to be a Horsman.
@Majestros
@Majestros 2 жыл бұрын
Nature Boy Ric flair
@billbird6494
@billbird6494 2 жыл бұрын
The Great Kabuki - The Great Muta, Buddy Rogers - Ric Flair, Tiger Mask (Sayama) - Tiger Mask ii (Misawa), Billy Graham - Hulk Hogan, Black Tiger (Marc Rocco) - Black Tiger ii (Guerrero), The Rock N Roll Express - The Rockers, The Road Warriors - Demolition, Skyscapers - Sid Vicious - Mark Calaway, Freebirds - Jimmy Garvin.
@vanthdreadstar8039
@vanthdreadstar8039 2 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Garvin with Michael P.S. Hayes as the Freebirds? I didnt like it but were they more successful in terms of title reigns, and longevity?
@seanconway3160
@seanconway3160 2 жыл бұрын
The nature boy.....
@jaritime1406
@jaritime1406 2 жыл бұрын
Moondogs changed a couple of times
@ednad4607
@ednad4607 2 жыл бұрын
wrestled in calgary too
@danielburger1775
@danielburger1775 2 жыл бұрын
New Junk Yard Dog Sylvester Ritter got over.
@DadTalksLive
@DadTalksLive 2 жыл бұрын
Are we just going to ignore how successful the 2nd incarnations of Diesel and Razor Ramon were?
@eiephants
@eiephants 2 жыл бұрын
I hear Diesel 2 did pretty well for himself...
@gothard5
@gothard5 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t Corporal Kirscher in Mid South as Ed Wiskowski? Edit: Never mind. I was thinking of Colonel DeBeers
@DolFan316
@DolFan316 2 жыл бұрын
Man oh man, imagine anybody doing that gimmick today... Or better yet, don't.
@matthewbesson5367
@matthewbesson5367 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe guys called "Blackjack" I know both Mulligan and Lanza used the name and were pretty big stars.
@nkotbfreak2983
@nkotbfreak2983 2 жыл бұрын
Love Corporal Kirchner as a kid, thought Slaughter looked old and out of shape
@josephnicolino8529
@josephnicolino8529 2 жыл бұрын
Kirchner couldn't lace up Slaughter's boots.
@cmdc778
@cmdc778 2 жыл бұрын
I liked Sarge. Legendary character. The voice, the chin, the stache…. Never looked in excellent shape, though he looked a bit better when he was younger, and he had that bald spot that made him look old. So, I can understand what you are saying.
@bigmike2464
@bigmike2464 2 жыл бұрын
I agree thatwhen STan replaced Denis; wasd awesome... Only other one I could think of was another "family"... the Andersons... Lars, Gene, Ole, Arn
@rickpowers3677
@rickpowers3677 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know he was R.T Reynolds. I always wondered what happened to R.T. Reynolds. Just like what happened to A.J Petruzzi or Trent Knight?
@the80sguy80
@the80sguy80 2 жыл бұрын
I always HATED Demolition, cause I thought they were a cheap knock off of The Road Warriors. But surprisingly, they did get over in WWF.
@jeffmac9642
@jeffmac9642 2 жыл бұрын
Demolition had nothing to do with the road warriors. You are a disgrace to the 1980s. Different look. Different style. Dungeon masks with spikes. Mr. Fuji . Rick Deringer metal theme entrance music . 🎶
@danielburger1775
@danielburger1775 2 жыл бұрын
As other guy said. The ONLY similarity was they were both tag teams with facepaint. Demolition just looked like two big guys, while people didn't say "Roid Warriors" for nothing. Demolition wrestled. Road Warriors had 4 moves. Demolition sold for their opponents. Road Warriors didn't. If Demolition lost to a Bulldogs or a Hart Foundation they could come back. Road Warriors had to be protected, or the whole gimmick would have collapsed. And, Demolition were part of the ice cream bar, Rock n Wrestling boom. They looked like 70s KISS. By contrast, the Road Warriors had an obvious S&M, homoerotic vibe that Demolition never had.
@jeffmac9642
@jeffmac9642 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielburger1775 I'm behind you 97.88% except for rainbow 🌈 erotica
@kentuckytraveler270
@kentuckytraveler270 2 жыл бұрын
I met a gentleman a few weeks back at the flea market in Portland TN. He claims to have been the manager to wahoo McDaniels , I think he said his name was colonel wolf. Any truth to this?
@sandyunderpants4376
@sandyunderpants4376 Жыл бұрын
I just became a fan when Slaughter left WWF, and was a big mark for Cpl. Kirchner in his battle with Nikolai Volkoff and the Iron Sheik. They even made a wrestling figure of him, and now looking back historically, it's pretty amazing because he was just around for 18 months maybe. I didn't know he was a joker knock-off of Slaughter, just thought he was a brave service member who worked his way all the up to Corporal. My uncle who served in Nam said, "He's just a corporal? That's nothing". Whatever that meant.
@galactus4mac
@galactus4mac 2 жыл бұрын
Dusty Rhodes going to WWE are probably the worst of the worst.
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