Jim Cornette on He & The Midnight Express Leaving WCW

From Episode 329 of the Jim Cornette Experience
Artwork by Travis Heckel!
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[@wwebb1]

Thumbnails are the baby face of this channel.

[@tomr3422]

I had to go get something to drink and stop laughing before I started listening.

[@madbrowniac7871]

And I hope that they stay Rick Steamboat. Never turn Heel!😂B.W.

[@trevornorton2531]

Like a wrestling flintstones drawling

[@madbrowniac7871]

There was a storyline several years ago in Georgia where Wahoo McDaniel attacked Ron Garvin for a bounty. And it does look as though Fred and Barney had a falling out!😂B.W.

[@RydellTitmore]

Loop

[@codyryan2316]

I could listen to Jim talk shit about Jim Herd,Vince Russo and Tim Horner all day and not get bored. Moral of the story? Don't piss of Corny. Ever.

[@joes7378]

I would love to hear Cornette impersonate a conversation between Dusty Rhodes and Ernie Ladd

[@joes7378]

@Cas van der Wal I tell you Ernay baby I'm thuch a thuper geniuth daddaay.

[@earledwards6217]

Bobby Eaton is the most laid back person ever

[@DarksaberForce]

He sadly pass away earlier today. 😞

[@Howyanow]

May he rest in peace

[@seanbonella]

God bless Bobby

[@ggaa111100]

One of my favorites. RIP Bobby

[@drgwhatsthetruth3783]

J.C. cracks me up. Man how I hated him in the 80's...just proves he was doing his job.

[@RudeBoyKyle94]

I was recently offered a promotion at a job I hate and I reacted like Jim being told he had a new contract

[@michaelknepper9332]

It's kinda sad to hear the story about the Horsemen group we could have had with Stan and Bobby but didn't get .What a shame

[@marcuswrightbest8878]

I would Love to have see the midnight express as Horesmen WoW wow WoW

[@Batony]

Yep. Herd was stupid.

[@drido]

Huge missed opportunity.

[@salvatore4kilogram787]

It’s more sad to hear after this that Brian Last treated John Arezzi like some jobber guy recently when John Arezzi has contributed more to the wrestling business than Brian last could collect and jerk off too. What a clown.

[@theseeker7711]

Flair and Stan the ladies men.I believe Flair trained Stan

[@5dollarfootlong272]

Great thumbnail, can't wait to replace my family portrait with this, thanks!

[@elijahchesterthomas5334]

Hahaha. That's excellent.

[@EraofDawn]

Here's the one thing about Jim, he unapologetically himself and dosen't deviate from his position on things. I may not agree with him on a lot of his personal view points but the man is a walk encyclopedia of wrestling knowledge and is relevant because of that. He's one of the old souls that keeps kayfabe sacred and not try to expose it. He's uncomfortable talking about it every now because of his level of integrity. I had a neutral stance for years on his hate for Vice Russio which I initially agreed with. After watching countless interviews with wrestlers young and old, you can tell who's shooting and those keeping a facade. I'm happy for your success and would love to see the Cornette Castle one day. Richard

[@timf7413]

The funny thing is I can totally see Vince bringing Cornette in as "The Colonel" dressed like Colonel Sanders back in the early 90's. That has old school WWF gimmick written all over it.

[@timf7413]

I can't remember where. but I did hear another interview with Cornette where he said it was obvious Flair made that suggestion to him in a joking fashion.

[@sjdrifter72]

YABBA DABBA DOOOO!!! That thumbnail is classic. Corny as the Great Gazoo and Fred Flintstone as Wahoo with the Indian headdress plus Jim Herd as a pissed off Barney Rubble is hilarious!

[@QuickManEXE]

Agreed.. Heckel outdid himself on this one.

[@sbbjason]

I think Herd is supposed to be Fred's boss Mr. Slate. It's still hilarious! Travis, you've done it again!

[@madbrowniac7871]

The late great John Stevenson voiced both Mr. Slate and Cogswell of Cogswell Cogs if memory serves. Also played the oilman who negotiated The Clampetts into millionaire status (and ended up crushing on Cousin Pearl) and did the voiceover for the Mayberry Radio Station report on the cave disaster involving Andy and Helen at the Mayberry Picnic in an episode of "The Andy Griffith Show." Talented guy.B.W.

[@vinceraven1501]

In the early 90s when the new version of the Hollywood Blonds of Austin & Pillman were formed, I thought "oh man, where's the Midnight Express?" there could've been some incredible slam bang matches between those 2 teams...

[@TheJames-Edward]

I love whoever it is that does the artwork for Jim Cornette!

[@ICHIBAN-cz8ih]

Travis Heckel is the gentleman mate

[@CatsClaw44]

@@ICHIBAN-cz8ih He is phenomenal.

[@vanessabonner6104]

Midnight Express for the Hall of Fame! !!!!!!!!!!

[@dejuans1328]

You damn right! It's a shame it hasn't happened.

[@seanbonella]

July 2023, still nothing

[@TylerMorganShow]

His dusty impression is funny.

[@Vagajammer]

What's funnier is Lance Storm's impression of Cornette "God damn bumble-fuck..."

[@madbrowniac7871]

With both The Midnight Express and The Dangerous Alliance Bobby Eaton was probably the only Pro Wrestler ever managed by both Jim Cornette and Paul Heyman (as Paul E Dangerously). Forgot Dennis Condrey as well.🤦‍♂️Oh what am I saying? Eaton was managed in Memphis by Jimmy Hart before them! And held the NWA MidAmerica Championship in both the Gulas and Jarrett versions of the same Company.😂B.W.

[@ricosalvaje5802]

The 1993 Horseman should have been Ric Flair, Arn Anderson , Stunning Steve Austin and Brian Pillman.

[@durden2480]

Absolutely, would’ve been great

[@user-qx5nk6qg2b]

Lmao dafuq? 🤣🤣

[@wrestlingstuffv2]

And not the Three Horseman of Flair, Arn and pAuL rOmA

[@fjccommish]

The Four Horsemen were Ole, Arn, Tully, and Ric. Period. /||||

[@seanbonella]

Nope

[@RobertoTheOriginalManFromTheA]

Wcw offices at CNN center...The memories...I've seen dusty several times and Michael hayes before he went to wwe.

[@JamesSmith-vl7yq]

The 2 Best Wrestlers in my opinion Bobby Eaton. Randy Savage.they put on a good show

[@Rudy04]

Flair, Arn, Stan, Bobby, and Woman would have been a badass Horsemen

[@DamnitDave87]

It would have been the shits

[@jerricafrench1384]

Jim Cornette is the best manager in wrestling. Midnight Express, Big Bubba Rogers, Adrian Street, Sherri Martel, Vader and more!!!!!

[@patale1640]

TIL Colonel Robert Parker gimmick was originally meant for Jim Cornette in 92 WWF.

[@Smokey1419]

@Pat Ale, Damn, imagine Jim managing Harlem Heat or Buck and Slater.

[@SynDC6]

That was a WCW gimmick done by Robert Fuller.

[@chadk890]

If Corny didn't leave WCW in 1990,probably no Smokey Mountain where we first saw Jericho in 94

[@therush757]

Bobby and Stan in the Horsemen would’ve been badass.

[@brodocbetty4856]

Would have been a gold mine.

[@TheBoltactionrifle]

This artwork is awesome

[@85futureshock]

The Great Corzoo and Wahoo Flintstone.

[@connorbrown8045]

New GOAT thumbnail cartoon

[@charlesrahman5317]

R.I.P Bobby Eaton

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

If they teamed up Bobby, Stan & Dennis with Flair they could have been called the "Midnight Horsemen".

[@gregjude2198]

OK, the thumbnail art is pure hilarity.

[@kenrickeason]

Yeah.. Leaving Jim Herb's WCW was the best decision.. Jim Herb did one thing RIGHT! Making you an announcer..

[@kenrickeason]

@Joe Greene Nope!

[@kenrickeason]

@xcellken1 You could be right.. LOL

[@kael2450]

The Midnight Express as Horsemen would of been cool.

[@Skates-sp2ty]

Is Jim herd still alive ??? I bet he have the best shoot interview ever. He must be one of the most hated figures in Wrestling

[@MarquisLeary34]

He occasionally gets asked about his time there. He legitimately doesn't understand why so many people hate him.

[@brian9670]

He’s still alive, lives outside St Louis

[@callum6486]

As herd once said "it takes alot of gin to fuel this engine!"

[@StarlightEater]

Always makes me happy knowin beautiful bobby kept getting paid until wcw went belly up. Wwf shoulda put em in their little made up hall of memories

[@joewilson4151]

"i was against this." "we were too." man, nobody really can explain that to you when you are a young man. i was not raised in a manner where i could control my emotions. how fucking mature. i am about to turn fifty and i am appreciating how fucking complex adult relationships are.

[@544CampStreet]

Travis Heckel is the bee's knees!

[@maceomaceo11]

If there is any justice in the world, then someday Mr. Heckel's work on this channel will be on display in The Smithsonian and he will be discussed about how to garner attention in this medium for centuries to come.

[@bradgaines]

I can't see Bobby and Stan as Horsemen. They were good enough in the ring but not near good enough on the mic. If you're a horsemen you have to be a great talker.

[@CatsClaw44]

You're crazy, Stan Lane is AWESOME on the mic. And with Stan, Arn, JJ and Ric you wouldn't need Bobby to talk. And no, you don't need to be a great talker to be a Horsemen. Luger, Benoit, and Malenko were not great talkers.

[@andrebdd5818]

"They screwed watts around" If jim ever made a ridiculous laughable statement then that's it right there

[@ThePunkrawkdaddy]

Say what you want about Jim. But, he is loyal to his friends!

[@RWSCOTT]

Jim is the Great Gazoo!

[@725slashbum]

How many times is he gonna tell this story? Jesus Christ Last, aren't you supposed to be a historian?

[@tomr3422]

Do you have the special KZbin that doesn't have a back button or fast forward button? What were those replaced with a "special Whine about something you chose to listen to button"

[@WaitingtoHit]

@@tomr3422 He's right. They shouldn't repeat themselves.

[@tomr3422]

@@WaitingtoHit I must have a upgraded addition of KZbin, I only listen to what I want too, and do not have the WHINE button... What experience do you have that gives you the ability to determine "they should not have repeated themselves"? I have never heard of your podcast or KZbin channel? He is a idiot much like you, The tittle is pretty clear what it is, if you don't want to listen to it why did you click on it? I have heard this story several times and enjoyed listening to it.

[@TheForeverRanger]

As much as Sean hates it, you can find where Jim talks about The Midnight Express leaving in one of those timeline video Jim did with Sean a number of years back.

[@WaitingtoHit]

@@tomr3422 Okay, Tom, Jim should repeat himself ad nauseum. No more new stories . . .

[@genxtasy9914]

I've heard this many times different episodes. Never gets old.

[@rudyrusso711]

RIP BOBBY EATON!!

[@MauFerrer2000]

Man that thumbnail made me laugh so much hahaha. Amazing!!!

[@ericsmith2487]

I've always seen The Midnight Express as the greatest tag team in history. I absolutely loved their heel work in and out of the ring, and I was soo disappointed when the old and new Midnights with Cornette and Heyman as the heads. Would have been the greatest tag storyline of all time.

[@Orlando407100]

Vince need to sign Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble with The Great Gazoo before AEW

[@madbrowniac7871]

Already signed Barney Rubble years ago. Ron Garvin.B.W.

[@nightstrike90]

I have had many jobs that I also would have walked out of of had my manager told me if I don't like it go home. Strange how it never enters your mind that you can just leave until THEY bring it up lol

[@levibradley5098]

I didn't wait. If the company pissed me off that bad I just left. I accepted I would have to tighten the purse strings till I found another job but I accepted no paycheck is worth your sanity

[@markmicco1005]

Was it always a thought in the back of the talent's mind that if they were to leave an organization for another, that they would eventually be back for whatever reason? What sin was horrible enough to commit that the wrestler or manager was refused to return back to the organization that they left????

[@christopherr3676]

Screwing steph mcmahon

[@Kneestonelight]

What a weird way to phrase that…..you worked way too hard for an easy sentence 🤦🏼

[@markmicco1005]

@@Kneestonelight what can I say buddy? I just suppose that I have a strong work ethic LMAO

[@dquanissavage6287]

Awesome Shoot Today Jim!!🙌🐐🐐

[@castlebravocrypto1615]

I stopped paying attention to professional wrestling in 1999 when I went off to the army. Didn't give two cares about the sport until I ran into Jim's behind the scenes information on what happened. Now it's a completely different story. Cornette is an intellectual beast

[@kenrickeason]

Damn they had smarts back then?! Now how can anyone talk about people of Today being smarts?!

[@brian9670]

The wrestling was good so nobody cared

[@moonsaves]

There were dirt sheets, but the vast, vast majority of the fans didn't know or care about them. The full smarky thing we have didn't get rolling until you had both WWE and WWF running storylines straight up saying "this shit is fake".

[@kenrickeason]

@@moonsaves finally someone admit it..

[@kenrickeason]

@@brian9670 That's what I was saying though! We all knew pro wrestling was a work even back then.. Even when the attitude era/Monday Night Wars started to break Kayfade we didn't care cause it was fun as hell to watch and the ride was amazing even though we knew the ride will have to end someday but it was fun while it lasted, was one of the best rides of entertainment money could buy.. We all knew Pro Wrestling was a work! We had knowledge of this since the early 1990s even I knew Pro Wrestling was getting exposed little by little every decade starting with the 1940s but the 1980s just wide open exposed it and guess what? Nobody cared! Pro Wrestling ended up getting bigger and bigger cause it was entertaining as hell to watch.. it's the main reason people didn't care.. we respected the business even more! We respected that those guys and girls were putting their minds and bodies on the line trying to put their very all into their characters trying to entertain the crowds who came to see a pro wrestling match..

[@moonsaves]

@@kenrickeason The thing is that it took itself seriously, and there was still enough of the crowd that didn't know that it was a work that you could get wrapped up in it with them. Now after so many years of "entertainment" and "this is what I'm doing for my character", it's lost a visceral, "real" element that it had where you could just get invested in what's going on without thinking about it.

[@charleshendren3166]

A Four Horsemen of Flair, AA, Eaton, and Lane would have been great… it would have probably been the best incarnation of the group

[@soulofanerd9364]

That's not better than 1988 Flair, Arn, Tully and Windham

[@alessandroischia3500]

The midnight express 🤔🤔🤔 those are fatter than chuck Taylor

[@CamSTL]

46 seconds after uploading and some fool already gave this a thumbs down lol

[@Will_kid_cortez]

Probably some aew fanboy lol

[@bobbeckey6941]

I didn't thumbs down, but holy fuck Jim has hold that story so many times I feel like I was one of the express. guys been in the business 40 years and like 7 stories.

[@kenrickeason]

@@Will_kid_cortez Spot the WWE fan boy..

[@Will_kid_cortez]

@@bobbeckey6941 probably tells the stories over for newer fans. There is some fans barely realizing JC doesn't like the prez

[@bobbeckey6941]

@@Will_kid_cortez Yeah I agree, but I have heard that story so many times.

[@maritalturnip8344]

I made this exact joke that Jim's first tag team was Fred and Barney

[@georgeleos1346]

Mr. Cornette now is the time!! Swallow your pride and show your passion. Pull some resources together and start your own Dungeon!! Or?? Do this?? Fuck them and go to AEW??? We will see if they hold or the fold!!??? All I know is the (product) is better with you in it than against it. Wrestling has been one of the true passions of my life. But it has been your life. And as a fan since the 80’s seen the rise and fall, you have been through it all. Hope to see hear and listen to your podcast.

[@williamsmith666]

Wrestling has mutated into sometime he hates; he couldn't stand how it became a live action cartoon in the 80s, what hope could he have with the current scene as a live action anime?

[@aqueelkadri8371]

Havent watched the video yet but the artwork suggests a viva las vegas reference and i cant wait for it

[@ChuuchooChooseMe]

Jim and brian, keep up the great work!!!👍

[@anthonyterry5472]

I would of loved the midnight in the horsemen!

[@PeteOG]

I’m surprised AEW hasn’t had a network intervention yet, lol.

[@geoffa87]

That has to do with the state of TV right now more than anything. AEW for this day and age has better ratings than just about anything else outside of the NFL and NBA. Their ratings wouldn't have flown in the 80s or late 90s, but are pretty good compared to the rest of the entertainment industry in 2020

[@Vagajammer]

You mean like ECW did when they were on TNN?

[@g0ng5ter]

Finding these interviews has been like striking gold. As a kid I loved wrestling, and while I was more a fan of the Face performances, Jim Cornette, and the Midnight Express were always fun to watch. Jim Cornette’s impression of Dusty Rhodes is spot on🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ddwchamp]

Jim, WCW was never the same after you departed. We temporarily zoomed upwards in the rating with the Hogan turn and the formation of the nWo. Once the fans realized the nWo was going nowhere the company never recovered. I wish you would have stayed but I understand your situation. I am glad Bobby stayed. I worked the Jacksonville & Savannah show & the Midnight Express received the biggest pop. I remember picking up Buddy Landel from the airport and the first thing he told me was Jim Cornette & Stan Lane departed. I was depressed. Jim Cornette is one of the great icons of wrestling. Thank you Jim!

[@georgeleos1346]

Jim, love what you puttin down #htowntillwedrn. All that being said (Nigga u know how hard your last name is to spell with auto correct when you are drunk??). So in response to the fkn #podcast I am listening to. You looked out for the industry, your peers, your friends, and love for the (words cannot explain wrestling) life style, sport, entertainment, ( fucking drama!!) (lita and edge???u can’t write that shit!!!). I saw the whole thing go down with Hunter and Steph (side note that’s my sisters name so Steph is normal). Bruh long story short huge fan. Professional wrestling will never die with people who believe in the sport, athleticism and the brotherhood that it inspires!! Watching the midnight express matches with you in it!!! (The faces). Oh oh la la!! Don’t give this to many people but Wayne’s world respect sir!!

[@Lantern72]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Cornette is king!🤘🤘🤣🤣🤣

[@Normaniac]

Always tickles me when he says WCW "fucked Watts around" when he was fired for being a huge racist lol

[@invertedname3099]

That old broadcast….the dude didn’t know how to do his breathing and it irritated the hell out of me.

[@DamnitDave87]

Dusty was one loyal guy!

[@mangrove]

Has Jim ever thought about becoming a Kentucky colonel? Johnny Depp wrote about the time that Hunter S. Thompson decided to make him a colonel, and how it's a rather uncomplicated process; anyone who applies can become a Kentucky colonel, is what he said.

[@elgrandecaudillo]

ain't Jim a Kentucky Colonel since his childhood? I think he once discussed this with Starmaker

[@madbrowniac7871]

Worked for Babe McCarthy, Artis Gilmore, Wendell Ladner, Dan Issel, Louie Dampier...🏀🐴🌹B.W.

[@87654321j]

That wasn't a cut that's a amputation 😅

[@jackmcgregor4025]

Midnight express were one of my favorites

[@raybestos5457]

4st

[@junioralsept9335]

That looks like Wahoo McDaniel's...

[@crissaxx7562]

great art hahahahahaha , story's been told already

[@Mike19737]

Awww. Dusty was always the peace maker.🥰🥰

[@chrisbills7076]

Jim Cosmodia.

[@guardianofchaosBD]

Corny!!!!!! Jimmy!!!!!

[@gamechanger700]

How did Jim Herd even got a job

[@ICHIBAN-cz8ih]

His wife was friends with his friend's wife who may of been an executive at Turner at the time

[@RayNDeere]

@@ICHIBAN-cz8ih Herd was an exec with Pizza Hut in St. Louis and dealt with the St. L wrestling promotion, which had a longtime TV show (Wrestling at the Chase). Herd wasn't smartened up to the business for a long time but billed himself as a wrestling insider to Turner.

[@ICHIBAN-cz8ih]

@@RayNDeere I knew he was an executive for Pizza Hut but I was referring to how he actually got the job for Turner

[@DefLeppardVanHalen]

Jack Petrik was the one that recommended Jim Herd.

[@seanbonella]

Corny is the man

[@bobbeckey6941]

holy fuck Jim has hold that story so many times I feel like I was one of the express. guys been in the business 40 years and like 10 stories. 1, why Russo/kenny omega sucks. 2. joining the wcw booking committee. dusty's or ric flair's booking. 3. the scaffold match/how stiff the road warriors were 4. going to Texas. not making money/ 5. how over the rock and roll express was. 6. the Montreal brett story/ what a prick Shawn Michaels 7. how great jerry lawler is 8. who exposed the business 9 leaving wcw/ how great bobby eaton was. 10. Macmahon eating weird food/weird sense of humor.

[@gregp103]

him*

[@gregp103]

himself*

[@nicholasfarrell8403]

22nd!!!!

[@tankwfw]

Flair, Arn, Eaton, Lane would have been 10x better than Flair, Arn, Pillman, Benoit

[@kismetghost]

And this is the day the rest of us figured out corny was caked with shit.

[@tommyk9844]

Letting the Dynamic Dudes go brought the company down!

[@georgeleos1346]

Ok so to continue. In prior posts since subscribed (been drinking) grew up in the 80’s so maybe 12 channels local??? But wwf was there and HULK HOGAN was there!! Then WARRIOR!! Missed Andre at his prime but saw him put hogan OVER!!! (Epic). That was the time of fame no shame!! Now social media is rampant and everyone has a voice like me. Huge fan of yours now as an adult and did my research to the history of wrestling and the gratitude that you and these athletes go through. And fuck Russo!!! Bruh he don’t read this shit!!! Bring him on a live podcast. Pay that fool bk u know he needs money!! Nut check him let him fall help him up and fix this shit show. I know it is hard to bring story lines. But bring this to the table you and Russo have a team. Retired hall of famers a who’s who?? Not a shit show like night of champions!!! But Russo!!! Cornette!!!! and (use the strong name) Mcman story line free for all. Will watch even if asses are not in seats. You need ratings!!! Cash in Jim talking to you bk you are the only one with the swagg and the back to do this!!! I can’t say my comments I deleted bk I don’t know you Jim. You and Russo need to forgive each other. But kick that bitch in the dick. Fuck him!!! Aghhhhhhh. Thanks for listening Jim

[@StarlightEater]

Schizophrenia is a hellava drug bro

[@georgeleos1346]

So glad I said all that to this podcast!!!! We need drug testing for (athletes) not to restrain them but protect them from themselves. First off weed marijuana is not a drug. It centers me so I don’t hurt people. Bruh you have been there and seen it all. And have lived to tell the tale!!! #SMH Vince gave in....🤦‍♂️ and in that note you are a true historian and lover of the sport!!!! I do not want to offend anyone. You do what you do and you are who you are!!

[@georgeleos1346]

I do not forget things, but, I need to be reminded of things. I forgot about Shane want I g to buy the Ufc. And as a first born son (me) having great ideas on how to move my fathers company.. I get out done by my (sister). So I can relate. But Shane!! O MAC proved his worth diving from the steel cage!!! I don’t care about wrestling politics!! Just keep the brand alive. Ecw wwf wcw Jim crocket promotions. We the people are behind you. Come back to wrestling Jim. Be real and be yourself. But be humble and stand your ground which is respect. Too quote a movie (if you build it the will come). Bruh you have the respect the balls! !!! I say come back like I watch the wwe. I record to see my boys but let’s face it, it’s crap. Awe has more of my attention. But wwe will never be lost on me. Fuck Vince in his ass. But he beat ted!!! Was that all the game?? Or was that fame??? 🤷‍♂️ I would love nothing more than to meet you and talk wrestling. Just ranting Jim. Hope you read this shit. But if not doesn’t matter. Helps to feel like am talking to someone who cares. I know this is long and bet you get a lot of hate mail so I understand. But it is the only way someone who seeks no fame can play the #game

[@nurse425]

Yea, the Midnight Express left wCw, and went on to GREATER things when they left....Oh wait, NO THEY DIDN'T, LOL! Cuz no one wanted to see a past their prime tag team trying to relive the 'Good Ole Days'!

[@jessieb9384]

No-one wanted to watch wcw anyway they had 3 good years.

[@tomr3422]

I'm guessing you have never been miserable at a job, no matter how much you are making you just don't want to be there... I like many people wanted to see the midnight express when they finally left. Wrestlers worked much longer then because they didn't get there by showing up with a head shot an zero talent, I am guessing you do not know that because you are 12 if not physically then mentally. Much like the people that came to watch this vid/pod cast.... Wait that includes you doesn't it.

[@Vagajammer]

Tell that to Shawn Michaels, Triple H, and the Saudis

[@maxxdahl6062]

I'd rather see that tag team than any of the bullshit today.

[@maxxdahl6062]

@Joe Greene Yep pretty much, while thinking they're geniuses at the same time.