Jim Cornette on If Sting vs. Undertaker Should Have Happened

[@woodyburns]

And Sting had another catchphrase. “When it comes to Sting, the only thing for sure, is that nothing’s for sure”

[@SuperPeterok]

Never say never!

[@michaelmercury1297]

Sting should have won against HHH .

[@filipporauccio361]

it was a ego feeding match for vince and HHH in my opinion

[@perrywilchiuk6012]

@@filipporauccio361 HHH wanted to beat the guy who got to face Ric Flair a thousand times and that's all it is. It's selfish, but at the same time, HHH is the younger one. We just love Sting so much, that we wanted a successful WWE run. And Sting didn't get that. NWO should have never came out to help Sting, and DX shouldn't have been out there either. And Sting should not be wrestling outdoors due to the hair.

[@kamfisher1714]

@@filipporauccio361 You’re delusional

[@kamfisher1714]

HHH carried sting in that match

[@perrywilchiuk6012]

@@kamfisher1714 as he should have. He's a decade younger.

[@jesterr7133]

I love Corny, but I gotta call bullshit on this one.Sting may not have grown up watching wrestling, but it is crazy to say that he doesn't love the business. The guy is 62 years old, and is still involved in wrestling as an active performer. Can you name any ventures Sting has attempted outside of wrestling? Can you name any time in the last 35 years that he hasn't been involved in the business in some way? Among modern performers, Sting is one of the most dedicated guys there is. Nobody is going to remain as dedicated to anything for as long as he has been if they don't love it.

[@Keranu]

Totally agreed. Jim's sometimes too much of a wrestling nerd to see things from the audiences perspective. He's not wrong when he trashes The Ultimate Warrior, but... can he really not understand why that character was immensely successful and obvious to push at that time? I don't think it's fair to say Sting didn't care about his gimmick, he took the Crow role very seriously and fell into the character naturally, to the point where it affected his personal life. It's not like this empty, depressed character was supposed to bust into a Dusty Rhodes promo every time he takes the mic. He handled the character exactly as was intended, and it worked BIGLY.

[@mikepuppetz9]

Sting avoided the WWE all the way up until 2014 because he was concerned his character would get squashed (which he turned out to be right). That doesn't sound like someone who doesn't care about the business. Love me some Cornette but he's totally wrong on that one.

[@Umega101]

@@mikepuppetz9 And then took the payday to get 'squashed'. Which it wasn't a squash. One - He was to give a young Rollins the _rub_ ... which should be fine by most people with a clue. Two - that WM match was to orchestrate WWE having beat WCW, which they did. I don't have a problem with it. Though having nWo help Sting is several levels of dumb and should be criticized

[@TheBmb2jn]

What baffles me is, if Undertaker thinks Sting is too old and the match wasn't going to be any good, then why did he agree to face Goldberg and DX?

[@RileyTaker]

Those matches might have given him that mindset.

[@Tim85-y2q]

@@RileyTaker Indeed. It's not like either of those matches came out well.

[@alexalexalex797]

Well Goldberg and DX have themselves to blame, cause they can still go. They botched everything cause it was rushed. But sting at this point is too injured with his neck, it would be a disaster to have them have a match. BUT in the 90s it would’ve been amazing

[@Gravydog316]

$$$$$$$$

[@therealdude5771]

To correct you it was Vince's decision. Sting apparently wanted a cinematic match with Taker but Vince had said it wouldn't draw in the audience. Funny, if you ask me

[@jimmyv3170]

My dream match would of been Brock Lesnar vs Vader. That would of been a slugfest.

[@btipton6899]

That would have been f'n amazing!

[@srktv5457]

Brock Lesnar vs late WCW Scott Steiner

[@srktv5457]

@@btipton6899 or Kurt Angle x Lesnar vs kind of in shape Steiner Brothers

[@popcorn247]

Mine was Rock vs Michaels. Oh well.

[@kamfisher1714]

@@srktv5457 Scott Steiner couldn’t work to save his life from 1999-2003

[@MilMaska]

"They should have never broken the streak" - Jim Cornette

[@ericosagie3046]

And I agree

[@DreamStepper]

I think the streak should have been broken, but only if you have a super promising and talented up and coming wrestler who's well established, but still he doesn't beat Taker clean.

[@lifeofbrandon_]

I’ll never forgive Vince for this I’ve never watched that ppv let alone that match back

[@gammasmash1924]

The last great match Taker had was against CM Punk. It was all downhill from there.

[@ToxicDust13]

That was one of the worst things Vinny Mc ever did, but I had already opted out from the "WWE" 🤮 by November 2011.

[@ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother]

I think Sting likes wrestling, he just doesn’t like the business and politics that comes with it. Listening to JC give his point of view, it makes more sense why Taker vs Sting didn’t and shouldn’t happen especially when had said that if Sting wins, WWE fans wouldn’t be happy about it and if Taker wins, WCW fans wouldn’t be happy about it.

[@blackout8777]

nah if he loved wrestling he wouldnt of sat out with the other ego maniacs during the invasion and he woulda came to wwf

[@totallybored5526]

Most people where fans of both, until Russo took over WCW

[@MrElephantBeach]

I understand what you're saying but isn't that the case for every match where someone wins and someone loses? People who were rooting for the loser will be disappointed.

[@romewilliams3526]

If booked today I’d do a non finish where The fiend interferes after they both hit their spots Ortons makes the save and rkos both.

[@maxxdahl6062]

@@romewilliams3526 Vince Russo, is that you?

[@ADAMdinho1]

The streak was broken by Brock Lesnar, but Roman Reigns also won a match against The Undertaker at Wrestlemania too Jim a couple of years later. The Undertakers record is 25-2 at Wrestlemania.

[@justinbeetle2594]

I think we all should forget about that Undertaker Roman Reigns wrestlemainia 33 debacle 🤦‍♂️

[@BGgungame]

@Matt Miller Yes, it’s a work. What’s your point? Something can be devalued in the eyes of the people even if its initial value was fictional. That’s what happened with Taker’s streak. After the first loss it didn’t matter any more if he won or lost.

[@SharptonsRaceCard]

@Matt Miller wait a minute, no one told me that outcomes are predetermined... when did this happen? Someone smarten me up here!

[@7654x]

Roman winning was to make him a big deal like Lesner. Reigns & Taker was main event & wasn't even for a title, it was all just to push Reigns who was getting booed tremendously. Reigns should of turned heel during that match.

[@Cableguy15]

Jim is way off throughout this entire video too. A real problem with him is that he's often ready to comment on things which he has little to no knowledge of just because it involves wrestling. At the end of this vid, he has the fuckin' nerve to try and act like Sting being around had to do with why he wasn't 'drawing' as much as before. In reality, the decline of the NWO and the complete and utter anti-climax of Starrcade 97 were the biggest factors. He obviously didn't watch any WCW back then, so why bother making such claims?

[@romewilliams3526]

Beetle juice sting , the sting I never knew I needed.

[@tonymatrisin4328]

Hahaha same

[@elmagnificodep]

Didn't he do Joker Sting in TNA/IMPACT?

[@Squeakypickles619]

"Its show time folks!" Shake shake shake senora starts playing

[@TheSportsfan35]

@Rome Williams, & the Joker gimmick that Sting did in TNA was useless, which to me would be the closest thing to the beetlejuice pic. Art Barr worked as the Beetlejuice character, & it helped him get over for Don Owen's territory in Portland, but nowhere else.

[@romewilliams3526]

@Jim Cornette lol didn’t notice till you mentioned it.

[@SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist]

I disagree with Jim when it comes to Sting not having a love for the game. If Sting was only in it for the money, it's not like he couldn't just do autograph signings and every once in while make a cameo on Raw if he was just in it for the money. I think Sting keeps coming back to wrestle because not only is he getting paid millions of dollars, but also because he has a genuine love for wrestling. Also if Sting only cared about money, it wouldn't have taken him so long to sign with WWE.

[@JormunB]

"And the Academy Award for best KZbin Thumbnail Art goes to..."

[@travisheckel5576]

😁

[@jasoncarter8762]

Equally as entertaining as Cornette!

[@davidosborne2538]

No doubt

Sting vs undertaker happenedb

[@olvacron22]

This past year with the cinematic matches being introduced I kind of had an idea of sting vs undertaker cinematic match where in the end they both kind of realise the respect for each other and both separately walk off into the night. But think about it there's something special about this match being one of the biggest dream matches that never happened.

[@olvacron22]

@Javy 22 I think a cinematic match between sting and hardy would be interesting to say the least.

[@AcesPlace22]

Best thumbnail ever.

[@nealfeldpausch715]

Hands down... Easily... 😆

[@NYCrazyRob]

@@nealfeldpausch715 LMAO, I was wondering why that picture was drawn and then laughed when it was referenced at the end. XD

[@travisheckel5576]

Thanks!

[@AcesPlace22]

@@travisheckel5576 are you the cat that makes them? 🤘🤘

[@nealfeldpausch715]

@@AcesPlace22 yes .... Yes he is !!!! 👍

[@anthonyclark9441]

Had Undertaker ever went to Vince and asked for/demanded that Match, it would've happened. We all wanted it, Mark Calloway did not.

[@jaylee2222]

They were actually close several times to signing him remember that video that they were teasing the house in a field that was originally meant to be sting but he resigned with TNA

[@anthonyclark9441]

@@jaylee2222 that's WWE signing him. Has nothing to do with if Vince ever had that as something he wanted to do, Mark either. As I said, had he told Vince "I want to do the Sting Match", we all know damn well that Vince would've booked it Instantly. Triple H v Taker was always going to happen at that year's WrestleMania. Apparently it was apart of a 3 year plan between He, HHH, and Shawn, that would go from HBK's retirement, to HHH trying to retire Taker. Sting was never on Mark's radr.

[@blackjack23able]

Exactly I don't just buy that Vince McMahon didn't want the match... Undertaker didn't want it either and if he did he could have gotten Vince to make it happen.... so instead we got Undertaker vs AJ Styles....woo we...screw WWE

[@eduardopazhurtado3882]

Yeah, most likely Vince told the Undertaker "Hey, Sting wants to go against you in Wrestlemania, most likely we'll make it like the match you had this year" and the Undertaker simply replied "I'm not interested". It's pretty clear he never cared about working with Sting, which is a shame. 2004 would have been a great year for them to work together.

[@russ3161able]

Undertaker a chicken 🐔 for not having a dream match with Sting on his resume 😤

[@LanskeyBeatz]

Should have happened 20 years ago

[@markdejonge937]

it id just not with the wwe happend in 89- 90 before th undertaker went to wwe

[@markdejonge937]

@Sim Singh steiner and his brother had a good first run in the early 90s holding the tag belts 2 diff times his second run did suck thow

[@markdejonge937]

@Sim Singh and both oldberg and steiner came in after the invasion angle and

[@markdejonge937]

@Sim Singh ill give you oldberg feud and steiners feud with triple h sucked but triple h played politics behind the seens hell steiner even went and said to vince if i have to take a riods test the so should your son-in-law

[@markdejonge937]

@Sim Singh and goldberg has even said he was just up happy with his first run in the wwe cause he new he didnt wanna wrestle any more steiner the roids got to his head

[@NYCrazyRob]

If they were going to do a tag team match, I wouldn't have minded UT/Kane/Sting vs. Wyatt Family.

[@solo13th]

That would’ve been fucking great. You could let Sting/Taker/Kane team go over and protect Bray by having Rowan take the pin.

[@MrSpeed-lt8gr]

Tony Khan gave him, as Scott Hall said, Sting Money 🙃😂

[@MIGHTYBOOSCH198]

I've always said Sting vs Undertaker should have happened that year when Mainia was in Atlanta, which after a google turns out to be WM 27. Not only was Atlanta the perfect place for some WCW HOF inductions but Sting and Taker were both in good shape still but at their age I knew it was better to do it then rather than later, since both were aging. Sting nearly went to WWE but at the last minute stuck with TNA, which is sad, I really wish WWE saw the small window they had and jumped at it with a lot of money. By the time Sting did sign, he was at least a year past it, he was past his prime for a few years in TNA sure but he just couldn't hide it anymore. Meanwhile, WM 27 was the beginning of the end for Taker, it was the first time he sold his age (being stretchered out after his HHH match) and he'd just retired HBK and as great as those matches were he'd never reach that height again. He'd face HHH in Hell In A Cell which thought great had a lot of shortcuts, then Punk helped Taker have the match of the night one more time - and pay tribute to the recently deceased Paul Bearer - and just the year after that Lesnar ended the streak and he spent the rest of his career trying to prove he wasn't past it while it became increasingly clear he was. So looking back, I was right, WM 27 was a breif opening to do it and do it right but they missed it. Maybe it's for the best it never happened because even when it was finally a possibility, both guys were really past it, I mean look at Goldberg vs Taker.

[@TheJokesterSCR]

This didn't age well. Taker is definitely done, but Sting is still performing well and having fun again in AEW. Dude is almost 63 and still taking bumps, going through tables, and jumping off the top ropes onto guys on the outside. He has clearly been rehabilitating and taking good care of himself since that injury. Also found a way to either actually grow his hair back or hide the bald spot really well, so he's looking like a badass again. He's 6 years older than Taker and has more wrestling miles on him than Taker, but now can run circles around him. But yeah... I STILL would have loved to have seen this match 15-20 years ago when both guys were in their primes. I really don't think it would have went over well while Sting was in WWE.

[@mrirrelevant27]

Mixed emotions about this. I watched through the 80’s and 90’s. Sting is a wrestling icon. Hands down. Rick flair and Sting call outs were NOT the same. But I agree other gimmicks were taken and used such as the crow. He put asses in the seats and built a massive fan base. When I turned on WCW back in those days, my first thought was I hope Sting is on the ticket. It’s a bias opinion but to me the guy was legit.

[@tito9560]

I don’t know one was saying sting wasn’t legit I think it was more of sting not being totally in love with wrestling like other legends. To me sting is definitely a legend but I always looked at him as one of the lower legends if that makes since like I never thought of him in the same sentence as Austin, rock, hogan, taker etc

[@TheJokesterSCR]

@@tito9560 Why not? He's dedicated WAY more time to the business than any of those guys other than Hogan. But even Hogan was mostly just doing promos and shit for the last decade of his career while Sting is still wrestling some solid tag team matches with Darby and even doing shit that nobody his age should be doing, but he's still doing it, lol! He's easily more of a legend than any of those guys. Hell, Sting was on top during the Monday night wars and all he had to do was show up and kick some NWO ass from time to time and he was getting some of the biggest pops I've ever heard. Shit, the pop he got when he debuted in WWE was massive. Then again in AEW when they were only allowed to have half an audience because of covid, it was still huge. For a guy who doesn't love the business, he certainly stuck around for a looooong ass time because he loves his fans. I think the only ones you named that truly loved the business was Hogan because he could get away with anything he wanted, and Taker because... he's Taker and pretty much had control over the WWE locker rooms. Clearly The Rock didn't love the business because he gave it up the second he had Hollywood success. Austin's career was cut way short from his neck injury so we will never know how much he truly loved the business. Sorry to make this so long, just making a case for my boy, Sting.

[@tito9560]

@@TheJokesterSCR no problem with the long message also not trying to knock sting or anything but when I’m saying love for the business sting does it for the money. I think the video said it all with the sting vs taker dream match. Sting wants it to happen cuz of the big pay off. Taker understands that it was a bad. Idea and why.

[@ethanbradley2089]

2010 was the best opportunity. Because both guys could still go. It was close but Sting resigned with Impact. I think it would've worked in 2014. But I guess Taker wasn't interested.

[@Notoriouswrestlingfan12314]

I know am late but am gonna say it’s was Vince wasn’t interested

[@heelspawn8023]

Steve Borden & Mark Calloway already wrestled each other (WCW), but their most popular gimmicks never actually clashed..

[@chrischar9428]

I think sting best character faced callous

[@heelspawn8023]

@@chrischar9428 Best character, but not most popular.. Surfer Sting couldn't work in 2020, not even 2000.. But Crow Sting fits any era..

[@Pogo113]

It happened in WCW, 4 months before 1990 Survivor Series.

[@patrickdoran180]

Was he The Undertaker then? No.

[@chase5047]

@negro bsr surfer sting was 🔥🔥

[@CraigSmithII]

When you look back at Sting's VERY brief WWE 2015 run, they just want to bury him. POINT BLANK

[@phantomdriver2010]

Sting and Taker should never have faced off unless they were back in their prime

[@RileyTaker]

This. Having the match when both men were at the ages and in the conditions they were in would never have lived up to the hype the fans had for it.

[@phantomdriver2010]

@@RileyTaker all it would've done is made people sad

[@michaelmarino7391]

If they were both in their prime, a 30 minute time limit draw like Flair vs. Sting in 88 could've set up a rematch or short term program.

[@markdejonge937]

they had one match when taker was in wcw before going to the wwe

[@michaelmarino7391]

Understood, but I think they're talking about The Icon & The Deadman not Sting vs. Mean Mark.

[@superkid12345]

Dream matches are only best in our dreams. Everyone is visualizing prime Sting vs. prime Undertaker but when it could have actually happened, it would have been painful to watch. Two older wrestlers against each other is just sad (remember Flair vs. Hogan in TNA?). The hype around a match between the two of them would have been at a level that the actual match would never have lived up to. Just like when Styles took on Nakamura at Mania, that was super hyped as the "dream match". When it happened it was good, but becuase of the hype everyone trashed it. Why put the legacies of Taker and Sting through something they could never live up to.

[@woodyburns]

Excellent points, but AJ v Shinsuke at mania was nowhere near as good as their IC title match in NJPW, or their Last Man Standing match at MITB that year

[@superkid12345]

@@woodyburns That's my point, if it wasn't hyped up as a "dream match" they could have had a "good" match

[@kob456]

They should've faced off at the very least or been at the same place at the same time on stage.

[@superkid12345]

@@kob456 I don't doubt that would have been cool for the fans but at the same time, with the power that Undertaker has had in WWE. if he said he wanted to do something with Sting, it would have happened. The only reason he did the match with AJ Styles is because Taker specifically asked to work with him

[@sharkbait8090]

I've always wanted to see Stone Cold vs Macho Man "Give me a ... Oooooh Yeah!"

[@ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother]

Macho Man would’ve done business and put Stone Cold over.

[@jasons2023]

@@ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother Unlike a few other top guys at the time.

[@dirtmcgirt8269]

@Michael James 91-92 Scott Steiner vs 03 Brock Lesnar

[@dirtmcgirt8269]

@Michael James 🔥

[@chadk890]

They had a match in WCW back in 95 when Austin had blond hair. Austin was getting buried unfortunately at that time and he left soon after. Rest is Stone Cold history.

[@EddieTheGentleman]

SHOULD'VE NEVER BROKEN THE STREAK!!!

01 would been good time. Some was 43 still decent shape. Undertaker 36 .sitng turn down wwe contract in 01

[@killjoydklown]

Technically, it wasnt "Woooo!" it was "Ouwwwww!"

[@Mister_Phafanapolis]

I thought it was something Sting “stole” from Flair after all the various feuds they had.

[@brianchapman8531]

Terrible, is what it was. Definitely should have lost that with The Crow character.

[@tobiasfarragut292]

@@brianchapman8531 he did..for that year and a half he didn’t say shit and even Reverse DDT’d baby faces as well as heels

[@generalbuttnaked9560]

@@brianchapman8531 you all are so boring

[@jimb2343]

I dont watch the new stuff but Jim definitely takes me back to the golden years when I watched as a kid.

[@inflatablecarnival3172]

Better to lose to Taker than HHH .

[@subtleb1138]

"It's Showtime!" , lol For real, if sting went full Beetlejuice, that would be gold Maybe better than Joker Sting

[@dustman820]

If they ever got around to making a Beetlejuice sequel, maybe he would have. The Dark Knight with Heath Ledger as The Joker had been out and that was a reason why Sting did that.

[@starshipfame1]

I honestly would not think it matched up, especially when it was available for them to do it. I agree with the tag team thing...it would have been a good pop. But at the end of the day....some things aren’t meant to happened. Goldberg vs Taker is prime example of that or better yet....Vampiro vs Sting. There’s still time for either Lesnar vs Batista or Lesnar vs Lashley 😂

[@MrRabiddogg]

Sting and Brothers of Destruction vs Wyatt Family would have been the way to go at that time. IF Sting came over circa the attitude era instead of going to TNA then maybe Taker vs Sting. But have it a time limit draw.

[@znalniaskas]

If Sting came in back when he was apparently close to signing with WWE and they ended up doing Taker vs HHH 2, then yes. The way they brought Sting in only to have him loose vs HHH was like JJ bringing in all those guys to TNA only to have himself go over.

[@pete_dj33]

Disagree with Corny here. Just because Sting wasn't a fan growing up, doesn't mean he deserves the kind of respect Corny himself or edge etc get. Heck Kurt Angle never saw pro wrestling but immediately fell in love with it when he started

[@al2085]

I agree with Cornette on that. Could have made them team up. However if they had a screwy finish IF done correctly may not have gotten everyone pissed. Maybe a great match that ended in a time limit draw. Or have them go ate in in a multi tag match where there were people to hide their limitations. Then both get counted out during an outside brawl or something.

[@douglasjarnagan3835]

Anyone that is still down about not seeing Sting vs Taker clearly has forgotten the Crown Jewel Kane/Taker vs HHH/HBK match.

[@aaroncushinberry1030]

Undertaker vs Goldberg! Terrible from start to finish!!

[@dustman820]

@@aaroncushinberry1030 Goldberg was never a great worker. I do like Cornette's idea of a Sting & Taker tag team vs for example Seth Rollins and someone else from The Authority (Maybe Triple H) at that time.

[@aaroncushinberry1030]

@@dustman820 I never said he was!

[@chasep86]

Im glad a lot of us have forgotten about that mess at Crown Jewel. What a shitshow!

[@jamesburns248]

1994 Undertaker vs 1994 Sting, Yes!

[@Rob-tg9lu]

Thinking more 97-99.

[@theghostofthomasjenkins9643]

probably the only time it could've happened. i believe taker would've even put sting over willingly at that point since taker has never been a selfish worker.

[@Matthew_Smith179]

Motorcycle Taker vs TNA Sting

[@kingrobthegreat7446]

Here's what you could have done::: Sting beats HHH at mania Taker and Sting have a stare down at mania. Backlash that year:: instead of the ludicrous Rollins vs Sting ---have Sting vs taker. Taker wins. They shake hands and then form a tag team for a little while.

[@ForeverExtreme]

A cinematic match (done properly) would have been ideal. Could hide their weaknesses, eliminate any botches (via re-shoot), allow for some supernatural aspects if they wanted to go that route, etc...

[@tobygreen4257]

The way you use Sting is simple. You use him to make sure Title fights have no interference and no silliness. Use him as a guest referee. Basically he needs to be the guarantee to the fans that they are going to see a serious athletic match between two opponents. This could help reign in the WWE light nonsense that the AEW falls in with

[@MattAlbie]

"I guess when they broke they streak, I guess they realized he should never lose again at Wrestlemania." Except he did. And it was the saddest shit I've ever seen in my life.

[@TheSportsfan35]

Having Taker job to Brock was another "brilliant" booking decision by Vince.

[@blackout8777]

i was mad sting lost is only Wrestlemania match

[@LimaFX]

Sting and taker did wrestle before taker was in wwe

[@VOAN]

They did but not as their recent character. Everyone want to see Sting vs. Undertaker, not Sting vs. Mean Mark Callous (or whatever lame gimmick WCW gave him at the time).

[@snarkykryptonite4768]

@@VOAN it still counts

[@chadk890]

@@VOAN Mean Mark wasn't that bad a gimmick and he carried Luger in their match at Great American Bash 1990. Mark would've been a good US Champ but I forgot, he would never draw a dime. SMH

[@rigormortis3532]

yes they did but that was not sting vs undertaker in their current characters which is what people want to see. they werent big stars when they wrestled.

[@EliC09]

@Chris V same dude though

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

Everyone knows that Stinger did have a match with Undertaker but when he was Mean Mark Callous in WCW

[@Forever_Thatter]

Definitely not anytime in the last 5-10 years. Maybe around 2004-2006 when Taker was fresher.

[@nickpappas17]

Ummm undertaker was still a phenomenal worker until wrestlemania 30

[@theunknownone5990]

@@nickpappas17 He means a time when Taker still wrestled regularly on Raw or Smackdown

[@theghostofthomasjenkins9643]

@Joey Pastrana god no. do you even understand the reason why sting vs HHH had so much interference? it's because sting couldn't work anymore. he was absolutely winded after hitting 2-3 spots on HHH.

[@RandalfElVikingo]

The problem is that if it was booked during that time we would've missed Taker vs Orton, Taker vs Kane (a feud that needed to end because the dead of the Biker gimmick) and Taker vs Angle (because booking reasons).

[@Forever_Thatter]

@@nickpappas17 telling yourself that, Maevis, doesn't make it so. The last great match Taker had was HBK's retirement. The rest have been either spot fests or he looked as fragile as a 80yo man.

[@perrywilchiuk6012]

I'm not going to lie, I'd love Sting as Beetlejuice, just popping up in backstage segment for the remainder of AEW's existence.

[@nyg804]

Off topic, but I also remember heel DDP taking "somebody stop me" from The Mask. Not a knock, it fit his character well.

[@ThePlayaJohn]

When he was the TNA GM if I remember correctly he was basically just cosplaying the joker

[@austin31697]

Which is very original let's you know he wasnt even tryi ng and was just doing it just to be doing it

[@madhatter8508]

@@austin31697 As if Generic Surfer Sting and Crow Sting were original to begin with

[@kob456]

@@austin31697 Nothing under the sun is original.

[@austin31697]

@@kob456 that's a lie,cause everything has to have a START somewhere befor others can use it. Power of the mind you create in front of you whatever you see in your mind.

[@kob456]

@@austin31697 Nothing under the sun in our lifetime is original. Sting was having a good time in his "Joker" role and turned the role into his own past his 50s. He recreated and retooled himself and made the most out of it. I applaud him.

[@bradpaton3927]

I love Corny, but I gotta call "shenanigans!" If Sting Versus Undertaker is better on paper then so is his ENTIRE WWE RUN. He won TWO matches one of which was a Raw tag team match partnering him with John Cena who did most of their work and probably scored the winning fall. Seth Rollins injured sooo many guys back then he bitched on the internet after Bret Hart called him out for being recklessly unsafe. Finn Balor was injured with ONE barricade-bomb @ SummerSlam when he became the 1ST Universal Champion and he's much younger than Sting. Sting took TWO buckle bombs in ONE match which any professional wrestling conspiracy theorist would state their match was booked like that as revenge for him holding out on signing for over a decade and/or sticking with Impact and/or they blame him for the whole WCW/ECW Invasion/Alliance story-line sucking and/or Sting's final match being in WWE of ALL promotions iSuch good shit for their overrated Network. P.S. HHH Defeated Sting SUCKS just likEverything the former does on camera since he skin-headed.

[@Emperor_x8]

Well I would of preferred Sting vs Taker over Goldberg vs Taker

[@casuallyarguments3577]

And I'm sure wouldn't have Been that bad oldberg and taker was hard to watch

[@Emperor_x8]

@@casuallyarguments3577 yeah not to mention the injuries I mean staying would have came in with a bad neck but they probably would have protected each other and also they probably wouldn't have asked for them to go 30 minutes

[@casuallyarguments3577]

@@Emperor_x8 exactly!! And After breaking the streak this is 2nd biggest disappointment from undertaker since he wanted to break the streak and not to work with Sting according to the documentary (tho I still think it was Vince's decision)

[@SSJ4Supermanarot]

My employer asked what my qualifications were. So I said: Ah! Well I attended Juilliard... I'm a graduate of the Harvard business school. I travel quite extensively. I've lived through the 2020 pandemic, and had pretty good time during THAT. IVE LISTENED TO JIM CORNETTE ABOUT 367 TIMES!... AND HE KEEPS GETTING FUNNIER!... EVERYTIME! TIME! I HEAR HIM!!.....

[@greenhulkknowledge8101]

Not to mention the fact that you're talking to a dead guy....so what do you think? Think I'm qualified? Lol

[@akuma4u]

Imagine if a crow landed on takers shoulder during his farewell ceremony at survivor series then out came sting... Epic.

[@CreightonChaney-io4xv]

That would’ve been cool 🖤

[@evilsWa]

And this is exactly the problem. Every single one of you has erased all of stings entire history all of which… Every single bit of which is better than the crow gimmick. Y’all have thrown that out because you wanted steam to be the WCW Undertaker. That way he can go up against the WWE undertaker. Other than standing in the rafters Sting did absolutely nothing cool with the crow gimmick. The only reason it goes over. The only reason it is over. The. Only. Reason. It. Is. Over. Is because the undertaker existed. The crow gimmick is the worst thing that could’ve ever happened to sting because now everyone thinks that he’s some dark spooky character that Has to be put together with people who are also dark and spooky.

[@akuma4u]

@@evilsWa ya but what u dont realize is that the crow sting is the only variation of sting that would have made sense to go (in teddy long voice) one on one with da undatakkha!

[@akuma4u]

@@CreightonChaney-io4xv ya man. Then Sting comes out and stares down taker face to face then they go off air like that. Then the internet breaks in half due to every single IWC member losing their mind

[@theghostofthomasjenkins9643]

imagine if a crow came out during during taker's farewell ceremony and sting came down from the rafters and sat on taker's shoulder... epic.

[@MrTambourineMan.]

I now want Beetlejuice Sting. Book it Kahn!

[@SuperFunkmachine]

20 years ago the two could of had a great match as part of a story, 10 years ago a dream match with screwy finish.

[@deathcrowzero45]

I do not remember if sting wrestle when I was little I just remember him in the crow gear and the bat lol

[@davsavchav]

Undertaker was in excellent shape for a very long time, even in 2007 he looked just as good, if not better than in the 90s. Unfortunately he began to age and suffer from atrophy a few years after. Didn't help that he was almost killed by Brock who was still built like a moose in 2014. Taker vs Sting a year after that would have been terrible. I feel like Taker 2007 could have been booked and beaten Brock, Goldberg, Sting etc. but that was never going to happen.

[@henrikschmidt3964]

LOL - Just as I started typing this, Corny said it for me. They should have been tag-partners. No one would want to see either lose to each other. A match would have worked twenty years ago, but at the time Sting came to WWE that ship had long since sailed.

[@mrdrumz48]

I'm pretty sure Sting would rather lose to Taker instead of Hhh. WWE knew we all wanted that match, But Triple H and to stick his head in and they were building the match as 2 of the biggest stars from both companies. 🥵🙄

[@arman_1024]

With all due respect, I don’t think you can use “Undertaker” and “smart” in the same sentence. When you look at the last few years of his career - accepting Saudi money, having a garbage match in Saudi Arabia against Goldberg, his garbage tag match in Saudi Arabia against a returning Shawn Michaels, his boring match against Shane, losing the streak to Brock, losing and having a lousy match against Reigns - you can’t really say that the Undertaker was smart about some of the things he did. He also did things because of money, putting aside his love for the business.

[@ravanpee1325]

Taker would win after 2 minutes in a squash match to humiliate the last remembrance of WCW

[@ctray3688]

It’s funny because all the things he says not to do did happen, ex.) Taker lost again at Mania, Sting lost a match and pissed off the WCW fans, etc.

[@VVV953]

The time he could have faced taker was all that time he wasted in TNA

[@Kingosso]

It was a fun time actually, except for the main event mafia. I never understood it

[@dustman820]

@@Kingosso Especially because Sting could not play heel. Fans will not boo Sting.

[@chadk890]

@@dustman820 He was only a heel with Eddie Gilbert ( First Family UWF) but was still greedy in the business

[@ahmedf8965]

Sting never understood the business? He stayed relevant for decades playing multiple characters. And he was the only guy smart enough to know that WWE will bury WCW guys during the Invasion.

[@abdotube1000]

I agree with you. Sting now is proving that he is more dedicated to wrestling than everyone. Look at his last match at Dynamite grand slam ... man Sting is 62 and he stole the freakin show. Sting is way better than eldertaker!

[@merritt2014]

Yeah the problem was they were just like 10 years too late for it when they had their 2015 Sting run. It would've been amazing to see them do a match in their prime or even like 5 years after their prime, but now that they're in their 50's??? It just wouldn't have been good.

[@KETO.n.WRESTLING]

If they put that match together it would sell on ppv for $99 with no under card

[@tomjoad929]

Not a chance

[@verminvanaokigahara7859]

ironic that's already happened and i mean sting wrestled the undertaker in wcw

[@Cameron_611]

Sting vs. Undertaker at WrestleMania 31 would’ve been a WAY better choice than Sting vs. Triple H especially if they were bury Sting. Triple H already defeated the majority of wrestlers and didn’t have anything to prove but obviously his ego the size of Jupiter wouldn’t let him step aside much less lose to Sting. Thus,proving that Vince McMahon (even after buying WCW) is still petty about how WCW nearly put his company out of business.

[@alangreenway6695]

Wrestling is always better when highlighting talents instead of exposing weaknesses.

[@shawngreenidge3591]

It's so easy to say you shouldn't do it, but that didn't stop WWE from booking Goldberg vs Taker. Also, everyone would have rather seen Sting "job" to Taker than to Triple H

[@shindean]

Even Foley mentions In his book how wcw struggled getting surfer sting over. Never realized how much of Jim's complaints are true about sting never being a heel but wanted to be around heels....just like in NWO red🤔

[@RedfishCarolina]

90s Surfer Sting VS the 90s Dead Man Taker was the only version of this that could have worked. Crow Sting was too dark, too brawler, too sloppy. American Badass Taker was too generic.

[@akuma4u]

Of course it should have happened and still could have (they would have had months and months to prepare for it and work out spots and construct the entire match properly) and would have been the perfect way to end taker and stings career with taker giving sting his first and only win in WWE. They missed such an awesome opportunity. During takers survivor series farewell i was praying sting to confront him but it never happened. What a shame.

[@bruno78392]

Why the fuck should a wcw go over one of wwe greatest legends???

[@jamirimaj6880]

The thing was, it was a great point of them leaving that match as a what-if UNTIL the Boneyard/Cinematic match between AJ and Taker happened. Sting vs Undertaker is sooo perfect in a Survivor Series cinematic match, and Vince should've thought about that months before Sting defected to AEW.

[@JonasDygd]

I think that's a bit harsh on Sting.

[@kraw3026]

Sting wasnt the worst promo I've ever heard, but things he would say, he said them right linguistically, but they wouldnt hit the ear right. Like he would drag out some words and shorten some and it always sounded awkward. Like a rapper with real lyrics but cant rap on beat

[@maybachrob9475]

Old sting vs old taker would suck....wrestlemania 27 would have been the time if at all or mid 2000s

[@williamcronshaw5262]

"His only catchphrases were woo and it's showtime." What about "The only thing that's for sure about Sting, is nothing's for sure..."

[@woodyburns]

Didn’t mean to rip you off. Hadn’t seen your comment when I posted mine

[@MikeJr9284]

Sting vs Undertaker would have worked 20 years ago, but Sting was in WCW and Taker was in WWE.

[@steviecritiquenewby7874]

Sting is the greatest paint face gimmick/character ever in wrestling period...

[@zemaryan3446]

What about Muta?

[@michaelpachuau3885]

Road Warriors at the same level

[@tomjoad929]

Sting is the WORST cause he's a flat out rip off of the Crow. Doink the Clown was better and could cut a better promo!

[@michaelpachuau3885]

@@tomjoad929 and yet he was the most over character in wrestling for a good part of 2 years in the hottest time in wrestling, so evidently something was great about it. Also, forgetting about surfer sting are we? 😁

[@jerry85g7]

We should of at least gotten a stare down between Sting and Taker.

[@lylechristensen2569]

I always hoped a few years ago that Taker would enter the royal rumble at 29 and that Sting would enter as 30. Everyone else would clear the ring under the ropes, and the two would have a staredown, do a few signature moves, and then have some type of a double elimination. Everyone else would re-enter the ring and finish the rumble. Letting them both have a match at their age/condition just isn't feasible anymore. Oh well.

[@JohnDoe-ym5ly]

Sting / Undertaker tag is actually a fucking amazing idea (not now... back then)

[@evilsWa]

Yeah it should’ve happened… Before Sting ever unveiled the crow gimmick… Right? Y’all really wanted to see sting the surfer versus Undertaker before that right? No? Then literally the only reason you want to see sting versus the undertaker is because you want to see gimmick versus gimmick. Which means in that case… No it shouldn’t have been booked. Because unlike the undertaker Sting didn’t understand how to actually work is gimmick.

[@kob456]

WTH do you mean Sting doesn't know how to work his gimmick? He's been working his gimmick to a tee for about two decades.

[@Heavy_C]

He's never Woooo'd in his life. It's OWWWWWWWW! Like he stepped on a lego with his bare feet.

[@hattorihanzo2275]

The teaser poster for Sting v Undertaker that a fan created a few years ago was awesome. Made me pop and I had not watched wrestling in years. Best not to have to hands well past their primes in a singles match. It would have been a huge dud in the ring.

[@samoanjoseph1457]

This is why if they were ever going to do Taker vs Sting, it should have been Sting's first/only WWE match. Triple H vs Sting ruined any chance of that. Sting lost, and losing a second big match would have killed all interest in him. Taker was coming off a loss, so him losing a second time made no sense either. Had Taker vs Sting been the first WWE match for Sting, Sting would have had no issue losing I'm sure (he lost for Triple H when he didn't need to, didn't he?). Sure, they were both beat up by the time Sting came over, but look at how many matches Taker's had since, some with aged guys who nearly killed him. Or one aged guy who did. So you can say Taker vs Sting would have been a trainwreck, and it might have been. But Sting's signature moves don't require lifting a guy over his head, and Taker had trainwrecks after that point without Sting involved. So bad as their match might have been, Taker's had far worse, and guess what? WWE allowed every one of them, and sold tickets to them! And please don't act like Taker's judgment is so much better, he signed up for each of those trainwrecks, and now genuinely has recent matches that he looks back on with shame. So this is one I can never agree on.

[@SpencerEzell]

They upset WCW fans by the way they used Sting in WWE period. Undefeated Undertaker VS Sting at Wrestlemania with streak on the line would’ve been the only way to book it with Taker winning. I would not have been upset with Sting losing to Taker at all.

[@ek1578]

If that match happened in 98-99, and ended in Taker winning in a victory where both guys look like they were half dead at the end would have been amazing. It would have to be a close match though.

[@kamfisher1714]

Your precious sting didn’t wanna come

[@SpencerEzell]

Right, but I even think when Sting WAS in the WWE, though they were older, they could’ve done something special.

[@SpencerEzell]

But absolutely, if he’d came in 2001-2002. Sting V Taker, Rock V Hogan Wrestlemania X8. Maaaaaannnnn

[@trevormurraymusic4975]

Man, Jim just burying Sting here. Of course Sting knows the business. Do you realize the numbers a Sting/Taker match would have drawn?? And how does Jim know Sting only signed with AEW for the money? Maybe he wanted to end his career in another way than being misused and unappreciated in WWE. Sting looked right at home on AEW tonight and hopefully this will be a good way to go out for him.

[@marcusmajors6196]

Cornette is to smart this is truly a wrestling genius

[@Keranu]

I think his fanatacism for pro wrestling also leaves a blind spot in the broader perspective of things.

[@DarkSektori]

Seeing Sting vs Undertaker in their prime would of been epic beyond description, but I agree, its a "what could of happened " dream match and leave it at that.

[@matthillegas3099]

Shrunken Head Cornette. Sounds like a Dungeon of Doom member.

[@batmanwins4584]

Ric Flair wasn't the first one to use Wooo! Ric Flair talks about that. He also wasn't the first Nature Boy. So ragging on Sting for using Wooo and It's showtime while giving credit to Flair shows the bias of who said it. Know the business if you are going to talk about it.

[@pimps888264]

"Great athletic performer, never gunna be a booker" Sound like Cena? lol

[@Sephcat]

I was and still is a HUGE Sting fan. Always HATED Cena, however - there is some truth to your statement. Both had a "dream" before wrestling as Bodybuilders. So the mentality aspect of both the men, is properly somewhat similar. In-ring abilities and skills, I would reckon Sting is better - 1000 times better.

[@pimps888264]

@@Sephcat Hundred thousand, and I completely get you. But if you hate Cena, he's either done his job good or you could be seen as a hater. Cena did his job, and if Angle says you're worthy. I'm not questioning.

[@Sephcat]

​@@pimps888264 If you hate a babyface, he has not done his job - on the contrary, he failed. I do recognize that he suffered from bad booking, especially when he became "the man". I doubt that many would have succeeded in his shoes. Roman Reigns is a good example of a similar bad booking. However, his in-ring abilities was a big factor, at least for me, for my dislike. He was never great in the ring and often was carried by better wrestlers and in-ring performers such as CM Punk, Jericho, Edge, Orton, Angle and Undertaker of course. He took some great bumps though and had more charisma in his pinky than most have in their entire body - he was just never believable, unless you are a child.

[@n0m4nic]

Undertaker could go over without a problem. The WCW audience never jumped ship after WCW folded so there isn't really anyone that would be so offended they'd never come back. I would say that the finish would need to be somewhat tweaked, in that I wouldn't have the Undertaker kill him and have him lying in the ring while there is an hour long rigmarole going on. But maybe he just barely comes too after the pin and manages to get up shortly after to get into the celebration in some way. While their ages are something to consider, I think they would be able to have come up with something while Undertaker was planning the match, and honestly, as long as neither man blows up seconds into the match, the spectacle would cover for a lot of the faults alas Hogan/Andre.

[@dustman820]

Good comparison to Hogan vs Andre at WM III. That match was awful performance wise (Because Andre was having health problems which only got worse), but in terms of story and spectacle, it was one of the best. Taker and Sting would have been the same way.

[@therealnmg]

Wait Sting is older than Taker? Damn!

[@myleswayne301]

Sting is 61 years old. Undertaker is 55 years old.

[@beautifulstrongman]

Sting wanted the match and Taker didn't. That's why Sting is on AEW, but Taker never will!

[@chanced1313]

Never heard sting say he would have went for it because at the time it was always a bad time in history and contract

[@cloudysmokes4650]

When Sting came in at the end of 2014 he and UnderTaker were both still very capable of having a match at WM 31, also if we look at reality ppl would eventually turn on who ever win the match because it would of felt like a one and done deal and ppl would reject an attempt of making either one heel and I sure in the hell wouldn't turn on Taker the first thing I layed eyes on when discovering pro wrestling . My point is I agree with Cornette they should of teamed together , only had Sting debuted a year earlier and gave us Sting and UnderTaker vs Shield at WM 30 .