Jim Cornette on Shane Douglas In WWE

[@sendtodevnull1269]

Was always a fan of Shane. Steve Austin said it best when he said Shane was a better worker as a babyface but a terrific promo as a heel.

[@jvadoptante]

Crazy I looked at this as Shane McMahon and it still totally applied. Hahaha 🤔 😁 🤙

[@mergiemerge1120]

@@jvadoptante Nobody ever thought Shane McMahon was a good worker or promo ever lmao but he's got balls I'll give you that. He's one of the worst promos of all-time!

[@GodKill123]

His early WWF run is underrated. Fun and believable babyface.

[@darnelldarden9429]

Been in the hospital the past week and Cornette is the only thing keeping my spirits up. Thanks Corny you the best

[@jackforster7783]

All the best dude

[@dirtmcgirt8269]

Hope ya feel better and r out soon. 🙏

[@bensonnick169]

Get well soon!

[@TroystonB]

keep strong all the best.

[@darnelldarden9429]

Appreciate the well wishes thank you guys 🙏🏾

[@TheBC313]

He lead assed Shane at In Your House 3. I just watched that ppv the other week. When Shane slammed him outside the ring Scott was like a lump of Concrete.

[@citizenbeeswax7985]

First time I got my question answered.i should ask more questions more often.

[@niteporter]

Awesome. For some reason, I don't get it, my email doesn't go to their email.

[@trademarktraining]

I met Shane and Franny a few years back. He took his time and had a great conversation with me, talking about places he had worked near where I lived. I found him to be one of my better meets. BTW, Francine was AMAZING. Absolutely a sweetheart and another one who dosnt just rush you off at the meet and greet; we talked about our kids etc.

[@chadk890]

Shane was the original Pipebomb way before CM Punk ever was back in 1994 in ECW when fans got tired of the gimmicks WCW and WWF were doing. Shane called out both the Big 2 back then and how they were being ran.

[@wereallscrewed9714]

And all of 40 people heard it

[@JDPOWERNO]

Then a year or so later he joins wwf with the worst gimmick hahah

[@FEARSWTOR]

When you manage to piss off both the Kliq *and* BSK you're not long for the WWF world. Shane made the mistake of making enemies on all sides.

[@segagenesis7708]

Right! Like, who ticks off Hall, Michaels, Taker AND Yoko? How does that happen?

[@tankwfw]

He made the mistake of not playing corporate politics

[@outis439-A]

@@tankwfw I think it’s because he felt he established so much in ECW, but that’s not how WWE works. You start off at the bottom. Look at Public Enemy and how they were treated.

[@tankwfw]

@@outis439-A The problem is Vince has always looked down on stars from other promotions. Hell even guys like Dusty Rhodes and Vader; guys who were MEGASTARS in the US and internationally, were a joke in WWE.

[@ReflectionOfPerfection]

@@outis439-A Razor Ramon didn't start off straight at the bottom, he started off in the middle of the main event feud between Ric Flair and Randy Savage.

[@tonymatrisin4328]

That feud Shane had with the pitbulls was really good in ECW

[@thesupervisor3270]

I’m watching that now on the network (WCW, WWF, and ECW all in January 97 just got done with 1996) his promos are good. He’s feuding with Tommy Dreamer now tho

[@distantandvague]

The match at Barely Legal was atrocious and killed the crowd.

[@andrewc693]

Shane Douglas was a great promo and an above average worker. He should of had a better run in WWF

[@Hi-kq1vi]

@JD Gust of Wind Dance He was working to get back to WCW to do a series with Flair. It took him six years to make it back there though-at which point neither guy was up to much in the ring any longer.

[@ZBR_ProXP]

*Should’ve

[@ZBR_ProXP]

John Volken just helping.

[@GetBenched2010]

He was a sub par worker with above average promos. (His promos were either great, which was rare, or horrible. Never anything in between.)

[@segagenesis7708]

Shane couldn't handle the workload of the WWF schedule, which was far more grueling than the ECW schedule back then. So, when you combine Shane's natural ability to rub people the wrong way, Heyman inflating his ego, the reputation he came to the WWF with and as Hall put it, a 'shark tank' mentality, Shane was doomed. He had heat with way too many people to succeed there. This wasn't just a case of the Kilq screwing him. He ticked off Yoko AND Taker.

[@Tim85-y2q]

Just my opinion as a fan, but my impression of Shane Douglas has always been that he expected to be treated like a huge star without being willing to work his way up the ladder.

[@segagenesis7708]

That sums it up. He continuously blames the Kliq for his short comings, but neglects to mention how he ticked off Yoko for trying to take nights off on the European tour. Which ALSO likely played a role in why Hall didn't like him, because he pulled out of a match with Hall on one occasion. Hall actually admits that he gave Douglas some words in the locker room, in a way he shouldn't have. I think that was the one when since Douglas backed out due to a sore back, HHH had to work twice that night. Meanwhile, Taker was still going with every injury you could think of.

[@Tim85-y2q]

@@segagenesis7708 I remember in Mick Foley's first book when he mentioned Shane tried to warn him off from working somewhere early in their careers by claiming he could make the same amount of money he was already and Mick's point was that he'd rather make that money wrestling than working a normal job. From everything I've seen, it sounds like Shane didn't really "love" wrestling unless he was at the top. That's fine, but then it's probably not the career for you because most people aren't ever going to be at that level and those that are generally have to work long and hard to get there.

[@segagenesis7708]

@@Tim85-y2q I was mistaken. There were two separate occasions. One, where Hall and Shane actually wrestled. Shane signaled to go home early. After the match, Hall approached Shane in the shower and asked if what was wrong. Shane just said he wasn’t feeling it tonight. Hall went off on him. The other incident was on the European tour. Shane was supposed to work with Hall. Shane said he couldn’t work because his back was sore. As a result, HHH, who was already on the card, had to work twice that night. The match actually tore the house down. In the parking lot after the show, Yoko approached Shane and asked him if he’d watched the match (WWE’s top stars made a habit of gathering around the monitor and watching other’s matches). Shane said no. Yoko then went off on him and told him that maybe if he’d watched the match, he’d see what Hall needed in the ring. He then cursed him out some more for taking the day off for a sore back. Basically, if you weren’t dead, go out there. Taker has been wrestling with all kinds of serious injuries and not missing dates. Hall actually wrestled Bret at Royal Rumble with a torn ACL.

[@ReflectionOfPerfection]

@@segagenesis7708 I've heard both stories and sadly I'm on Shane's side on both. If Scott Hall was sandbagging him on a nightly basis, I can see why Shane would want to go home early. As for the injuries thing and Yoko cussing him out, there's a reason why a lot of those guys are no longer with us and Shane still is. That road schedule was ridiculous and it shortened the careers of everyone involved and some of their lives too. If Shane said "Screw this, I'm not furthering injuring my back" then good on him. I do see Scott's side of it as well. Going home early screws over the fans that want to see that specific match and making HHH work twice on a European tour doesn't make Shane look good.

[@FerretJohn]

Shane had a reputation of being his own worst enemy. Mick Foley, who knew Shane since they trained together with Dom DeNucci and considered him a friend, has said he had a habit of not just burning his bridges but napalming them and salting the Earth. He was a good worker, he had plenty of potential, but he was on the CM Punk level backstage attitudes

[@CharizardMaster69]

FerretJohn I think Shane said as much during one of those list things

[@WSK9002]

Shane Douglas to me was the original Austin Aries.

[@SimianScience]

did he chill out? cause ive talked to him before and he was very nice

[@FerretJohn]

@@SimianScience Well nobody's an asshole 24/7, and I'm told he did mellow in his old age

[@SimianScience]

@@FerretJohn he was talking about ricky steamboat and i told him about how i was blown away when i saw him wrestle as a child. he gave me a list of apperances ricky was going to make in the next year so i can have a chance to meet him

[@bonlouis8808]

A shame Douglas never got a proper push in either WWF or WCW. Very smart guy, got accepted into Saba Medical School. Fun fact: the Isaac Yankem gimmick was originally designed for him

[@bakslayer3032]

Lol "Shame Douglas".

[@johnasbury3856]

I liked Shanes Franchise character but it seemed like he was perpetually hurt off and on his whole career. I dont know if it was Kayafabe or legit but he always had a wrap or brace on.

[@SimianScience]

i think he woulda been a massive star in the WWF had he stayed till the attitude era. hes good friends with steve austin and mick foley and i woulda loved to see him do promos with them

[@erickennedy906]

They came in 96. Shane came to WWF in 94 left in late 95

[@SimianScience]

@@erickennedy906 i know

[@segagenesis7708]

I think the same thing would have doomed Shane. Shane couldn't handle the WWF schedule. He was used to the ECW schedule. That WWF schedule was insane.

[@SimianScience]

@@segagenesis7708 there was a video about how yokozuna went off on him right as the kliq was going to

[@irishj_21st]

Listening to Shane tell it, his heat w/ Ric goes back to when he came to NWA in 88-89. He would ask Ric to watch and critique his match and Ric agreed and would say the same shit all the time. So then he asked the last time when he didn't even have a match, " hey Mr. Flair, what did think bout my match?". And Ric said something like, "Ah, it was good kid, loved when you did that thing". Lol...and Shane just never liked him after...

[@matthewrock4725]

I think he did have a match but he tricked flair into asking about a spot that he didn't do, and Flair said it looked good

[@ARandomGuy24]

@@matthewrock4725 He said he did a move off the top rope absolutely awfully on purpose then asked him about it and Flair said some famous wrestler I can't remember couldn't have done it better himself.

[@chubbycatfish4573]

Shane is too smart for his own good.

[@AcesPlace22]

I will always be a fan of the franchise. I wish he had got a push in any company. Met him a few years back. He did a personal Q&A after a signing. I don't remember the stories that well. I was just in awe. That he picked me and my buddy to be part of it lol. Fuck I love wrestling!!!!!!

[@Beardedvikingweirdo]

Went drinking with Shane after a show once. Really great guy that has a BURNING hatred for Flair

[@tonymatrisin4328]

That time when the lights went out in ECW n came back on with Jim in the ring was classic

[@chadk890]

The crowd cheered for Corny. Corny has always been cheered in Philly, especially with the Midnight Express.

[@overkill7990]

Yeah ECW vs WWF was a really good angle. That was exciting when ECW took over that one episode of Raw in '97.

[@CH0SEN_0NE]

I believe Douglas has stated his main beef with Flair was his disappointment with how he conducted himself and treated Shane and others outside of the ring. Take from that whatever you want.

[@MrDannyRazor]

What does Trump have to do with 90’s WWF/WCW?

[@HUNTERS_CRACKPIPE]

I'm 40 now, and I for the life of me never liked Flair. Where does that love come from?

[@doombase6]

The artwork for this clip is jus hilarious. Love it!

[@naturalbornthriller9025]

I don’t know man, the heel heat Shane Douglas drew in his ECW title runs was pretty intense. At his peak he actually just might of been as good as Heyman was leading him on to believe.

[@drunkensailor112]

As a mic guy indeed. Not a great wrestler, but that's also not neccesary

[@AngelEyes-bt6qp]

''might of'' What the hell does that even mean? Perhaps you meant ''might have''...

[@KHLB516]

He drew heat? Ok, he def didn’t draw $$$

[@Pillar5770]

Shane Douglas had a great run in WCW in 1992/93. He should have stayed there longer.

[@MrDagonOfTheDead]

William Regal vs Goldberg would be a great example of what they're talking about.....

[@robearnest7613]

Not the same thing. Regal supposedly intended to 'stretch' Goldberg ie out-wrestle or out-maneuver him in the match your talking about. But according to Regal he never tried to make Goldberg look bad and was told by management (Bishoff, Sullivan. creative, whoever) to go out and make the match look like a good mat wrestling style match and put Goldberg over which is what he tried to do but the match ended up making Goldberg appear inept and exposed his inexperience. Remember, Goldberg was still hella green and had been used to the 3 minute squash match. Shawn Michaels has been quoted saying Goldberg is one of the top 2 stiffest wrestlers he EVER worked with and that was in 2003, years after the Regal match. Regal was probably he 1st time he was going to have a 'back and forth/rally in the end' style match and Goldberg didn't have the timing for it.

[@MrDagonOfTheDead]

@Citizen Beeswax you completely missed the point, but hey we're all really happy that you liked it🤣😂🤣

[@trapmontana9440]

Shane was so good on the mic

[@louisrobertson9215]

Lol call me a conspiracy theorist, but when a politician has 40+ associates end up dead under shady circumstances, kind of makes you wonder

[@danieltravis5082]

It's funny how Cornette is super intelligent about wrestling psychology, and unbelievably fucking stupid about politics.

[@pillman8719]

@@danieltravis5082 Could not agree more. Love listening to him talk about wrestling, but when politics come up, I turn it off.

[@mrwednesdaynight]

All of these people connected to the Clinton's just mysteriously disappear into the night. I can understand Jim Cornette not trusting Republicans. I am one and I don't trust them half the time. But the way he has such unearned blind loyalty to the Democrats and Mainstream Media is beyond my understanding. He, of all people, should know when he is being worked.

[@SpaceGhost92]

@@mrwednesdaynight I was hoping he’d have something to say about Cuomo or the rest of the cnn pedophiles. Literally no one wants to hear his god awful political rants. Also funny his own party were the ones trying to cancel him for the chicken joke.

[@412StepUp]

Cornette believes everything CNN says.

[@nerdrage557]

I can't seem to recall Douglas having a memorable run outside of ECW. He stood around in WCW and then went to TNA for a period of time. I like pie

[@12345Yeah]

I love lamp

[@gdarippa69]

don't be a sheep in a mask - Do you really love the lamp or are you saying it because you saw it

[@alexortiz1431]

He tried in XPW! The fight against Terry Funk for the world title was brutal!

[@georgewilliams1470]

Shane and Steamboat had WCW tag belts I believe and WWF IC belt.

[@quentinkaasa47]

He had a pretty good match with Goldberg on Nitro towards the end.

[@thepunditspundit1776]

Dean Douglas would have had a chance if he did a Bockwinkel level of promo where he starts out looking like he’s going to give credit to the faces, then lay the hammer down out of the blue. When Vince turned it to “ha ha ha, you get an F and suck because you are a good guy like 1987, it was over

[@dirtmcgirt8269]

Agreed. Or a heel Backlund type thing. Vince of course had to put his cartoon spin on it. Just think how hot WWF in the New Generation could've been had he done more realistic characters. Some incredible talent. Bret, HBK, Razor, 1-2-3 kid, Yoko, Headshrinkers, Heavenly bodies, Hakushi, 'Taker, Owen, Bam Bam, Savio, and the list goes on. Even the heel Diesel character was $.

[@PutskyF77]

@@dirtmcgirt8269 I started re-watching raw from the beginning in order and all the PPVs, at the beginning of the year and I’m right around Summerslam 95 now and I was just telling my buddy they had such garbage going on at the time but their roster was becoming great and they had the guys there that would become the biggest stars of the greatest era of wrestling and imagine if they were able to hold onto them all for a few more years. HBK, Nash, Hall, Bret, Taker, 123 Kid, Owen, Yoko, Bulldog, Bam Bam, Sid, Road Dogg as Roadie, Billy Gunn in the Smoking Gunns, with guys like Kane as different characters before Kane, HHH, Goldust, Rock, Austin, Vader, Mankind, all debuting around this time or less than a year later. With a bunch of other solid mid carders that carved a role out for themselves along the way. They could have had a insane roster but instead they wasted time on Dean Douglas, Waylon Mercy, Mantaur, King Mabel, and all the other terrible things that happened between 94-96

[@user-wg6ik1wi6s]

I was a fan of Shane Douglas in ECW but I dont believe him about his WWF run. I dont think Scott Hall tried to make him look bad.

[@mikem10481]

Always felt that Douglas pointed the blame at someone else for his shortcomings and never wanted to admit that he was just an ok wrestler.

[@topazzz1546]

That's like almost every mid-card wrestler or lower on shoot interviews. 😂

[@obtuse186]

He was more than just ok. He wasn't Stone Cold or The Rock, except maybe in his dreams. But he was better than most and if he were to appear today as he was in his prime, he'd be the "best wrestler the world".

[@Thecallmemisterajp]

@@obtuse186 I dunno about that. I loved him when I was little, but watching him now, his ECW and WWF stuff was a bit clunky, if not outright boring, and I can really only think of two matches of his off the top of my head that I actually enjoyed. Even with the diminished psychology, I think most of today's generation would work circles around him.

[@JorgeMunoz-gn5do]

Shanes matches with Taz, the pitbulls, too cold Scorpio for the ECW tv title was a clinic in 96, his match with funk and sabu where he went 60 min was beyond its time where no one was doing in wrestling at that moment in 94

[@Thecallmemisterajp]

@@JorgeMunoz-gn5do I'll have to check out the 96 match with Scorp, but I never liked the Taz matches (despite Styles hyping their last one as one of the greatest title matches ever), and although I really liked some of the Pitbulls stuff when I was little (the big 4-Way Dance where Francine turned especially), that stuff did NOT age well at all. Original 3-Way Dance never did anything for me either, despite the innovation. Again, loved him, especially his promos (even as Dean Douglas), but he was hardly best in the world level.

[@nopenottoday8490]

TRUMP 2024 ALLLLLLL DAY

[@brianlogan4243]

Justin Credible tried bringing Hall into the lockeroom at ECW. Shane, and Bam Bam Bigelow didnt let him in. Jim is correct about Paul E building up Shane's ego. The Franchise was a key heel in ECW that was a better fit than Dean Douglas in WWF in 1995. It wasnt just the clique that didnt like him. Yokozuna heeled him out on a bus for cutting a match short for lazy reasons.

[@redauerbach2753]

Stop telling shit like you were there. This is all just shit you heard in mfing KZbin 🙄

[@InfiniCalendar]

That’s rich coming from a guy who dropped his full weight onto jobbers and would only protect the “real” stars like Hogan.

[@brianlogan4243]

@@InfiniCalendar HUH? What are you talking about?

[@brianlogan4243]

@@InfiniCalendar I personally knew Yokozuna. He would never deliberately try and injure someone. His dropping full weight would likely kill someone.

[@davey3884]

Jim sounds bat shit fucking crazy when he starts talking politics..

[@ricosalvaje5802]

Yea I love Jim, but politics are as much a work as pro wrestling is.

[@MerryOlSoulGigglesmith]

What i remember is, I always wished he wore a cup.

[@johnfennessy9451]

haha. there are alot of outlines in wrestling

[@jonsummersprizepicks]

Pause man pause

[@PaulieD1984]

Mr Shane Douglas whatever the fuck that "👌" ever meant~ New Jack

[@78bcat]

Waltman is Kliq...but he's also incredibly diplomatic and generally the most well liked of the crew alongside Nash AND he said that Shane didn't have it on multiple levels in the ring, personality, and just handling the WWE workload.

[@segagenesis7708]

Yep, that's what get's lost on fans. They just say "Shane was so great in ECW. He should have had a title run in the WWR". Those two work schedules were completely different.

[@BeaterCar]

Shane was great in ecw

[@efng21]

I'd like to see Shane Douglas in AEW in a coaching role. Similar to the "newly Franchised Naturals" schtick in TNA, give him a tag team who definitely needs promo help and I think he could find great success with the right worker/team to manage.

[@jcaceres516]

No thanks

[@stedarkside1529]

Shane Douglas wants nothing to do with that little company

[@TasteTestTitan]

Here I had thought that Shane Douglas was about to be this monster heel back in WWF at that time. Completely allowed The Clique to railroad him. But then again according to Mick Foley , he wasn’t the easiest to work with. Burned bridges and scorched the Earth with his attitude backstage.

[@stevenstark6104]

Shane was certainly a dynamic dude

[@johnnyd6135]

Shane was good in ECW from what I have seen, but I haven't seen a lot of his work outside of there. He seemed like a good promo and a pretty good worker, but I can believe what Cornette said about him being a liar. I watched an interview on youtube where Perry Saturn talked about the Radicalz going to the WWF and he said that at first, they wanted Shane Douglas to go with him and Vince said something like "Well, if I have to have Shane to have you 4, then we'll do it" but I guess Shane kept dragging his feet or not being sincere and the 4 decided to leave for WWF without him because they didn't want to blow their opportunity.

[@ruffus8012]

Cornette, please leave politics out of your discussion. I don’t support either side. Wrestling is my getaway from the outside world. You split your wrestling base with your one sided views on politics

[@akamiguelsanchez9985]

Douglas was his own worst enemy, especially in WWF. Hall has said Douglas didn't live up to everyone's expectations and was difficult with everyone in the locker room. Don't get me wrong, I thought he was great in ECW and decent in WCW but I think he's too smart and methodical for his own good.

[@ReflectionOfPerfection]

The problem was he was given a gimmick he wasn't into and his style wasn't suited for the Kliq. Hall expected Douglas to be fast and agile like Chris Candido but he wasn't. Hall usually worked best with guys bigger or smaller than him because he could either get tossed around or toss them around. Since he and Shane were about even bulk wise, they didn't mesh well.

[@KHLB516]

@@ReflectionOfPerfectionShane and Hall even bulk wise? Hall is many inches taller and like 30-40lbs heavier. Waltman said he sucked and didn’t have it too… A lot of guys get shitty gimmicks and get over or hang around long enough to change their gimmick and reinvent themselves. Dudes just not very good! He’s an underneath talent who thinks he’s a top guy with an over inflated ego. Only place he was on top never drew any $$$ or drew any real crowds and all he did was curse on the mic. Top guy in a company where he performed in front of a few hundred ppl a week and drew no money

[@ReflectionOfPerfection]

@KHLB516 Shane was allowed to be himself in ECW and later WCW but he was old by that point. If Vince let him be the Franchise in 95 things might have been different

[@jamesf791]

I thought he was a good mid-carder to possibly upper mid-carder. I've listened to his podcast and he holds himself higher than I felt he was.

[@alfonseklyne9027]

Can ppl tell me how your political leanings have fuck all to do with you as a worker?

[@charliewise1971]

Bob Holly caused his own injury by not working with Brock

[@quentinkaasa47]

Bob screwed Bob.

[@insupportofjunhado]

No, that was just miscommunication. If you want to blister Holly over something, go with Cappotelli, however you spell that tough enough guy's name.

[@LCFC81]

Plus he kept doing the dropkick when he weighed over 400 lbs.

[@calikid05]

As Bob Holly said why would I sandbag a guy when I have everything to lose....

[@bls8959]

@@calikid05 Cuz hes a jealous egomaniac

[@GuillotineStare]

Its hard to sit through these now that there is soooooo much anticipation for the AEW review!! Come on Jim! Step into the now! Day after event reviews!!!!

[@ZBR_ProXP]

Let them work in their own time so that it’s still fun for them

[@jamirimaj6880]

Jim Cornette should DEFINITELY do a comprehensive wrestling dictionary. It will fucking sell, I'll tell you.

[@4ArchieLee]

Sigh.. the whole HHH direction attitude era up to today was clearly based off the franchise character period.

[@topazzz1546]

1/2 Franchise 1/2 Nightstalker

[@chrisiverson5648]

Thank you.... I'm glad someone sees that....

[@4ArchieLee]

@@topazzz1546 I might have to research night stalker

[@4ArchieLee]

@@topazzz1546 I always wondered who atom bomb was before coming to the East coast.

[@goonerman6370]

HHH even wore the same biker hats as Douglas 😂

[@jamaalmoses8821]

I am a fan of Douglas and Hall.. I believe Hall would f up matches on purpose too.

[@simodollaz748]

Shane was the greatest NWA champion ever.

[@simodollaz748]

@Rondough Howell ok, living outside of Philly at the time, & being old enough to understand and still young enough to have the enthusiasm. I didn't care about the NWA after around 90, give or take a year or so. In 92 when he tossed the title to the ground like he did, he was tossing a shell of the NWA World Championship. I mean only Ron Killings has brought it somewhat to the mainstream when he held it in TNA back in 2002ish. 30 years of minimal relevance only 1 person had the balls to admit it, that was what 1992 when Shane did that? Fantasy booking here, I would have somebody win it off of Aldis (who is great all around) and do the Tetsuy Naito gimmick from 2018 NJPW where he was kicking the title to the ring, he felt the title was just a paperweight. That BUILT the title, like everybody wanted to be the superhero to save the IWGP Intercontinental Championship. Try something like that with NWA Title. It'll help them out a lot

[@simodollaz748]

@Rondough HowellI dunno, that was the growth of Philadelphia being a hot zone of wrestling & it was my favorite time of being wrestling fan

[@luigivincenz3843]

Shane was sanbagged by the Kliq, and Vince had a part in it. Dean Douglas? C'mon. I met Shane Douglas, Scott Hall etc years ago and Shane spoke with us, and answered questions patiently. It just didn't work out in the WWE. And Cornette changes his stories. What he said on a channel 3 years ago about a certain event, he changes on his new channel. That's 3 channels now..

[@skippythealien9627]

i had no idea Shane Douglas was some conspiracy nut I guess the Kliq really did break him lmfao

[@bdr113080]

I would never say Shane sucked in the ring. He was a good worker but I don’t think he’s up there with people like Brett Hart, HBK, Scott Hall, Jericho, Eddie, etc. But other than that he is overrated I think a little. Do you everyone talks about what a great promo he is but he can’t do a great promo if he’s not in ECW and allowed to use the F bomb. If the F bomb is the only thing making your promo great then that’s just a cheap part. I’m not going to say I have heard she lying a lot and shoot interviews but After 20 years of shoot interviews about 90s wrestling and you start hearing other peoples interviews about the same time, you realize that Shane leaves a lot of things out. He tries to make it look like it was just the Kliq Clint guys telling him he wasn’t holding up his end when in reality it was also guys like the undertaker and yokozuna who were also telling him these things but if he says that then it doesn’t make the Kliq Guys out to be doing something malicious that no one else is doing.

[@retroshane8844]

Shane’s problem was politics, he didn’t want to play them he chose morals over them which is obviously commendable but I believe that put a ceiling on his career.

[@retroshane8844]

@Rondough Howell His WCW contract circa 2000 set him up, he said so in an interview I saw.

[@antonlifer4449]

I like Shane but I don't like he said this about the one dead Kliq member. Just because Scott isn't here to respond to it. Also Scott has always put people over that wasn't in the kliq. I don't see him purposely fxcking a match up in the ring. From all accounts Scott loved being in the ring and fed off of the energy he got from putting a good match. Idk man...if he said this about Nash if HBK.. I could easily believe him. Idk why this just isn't flying with me.

[@johnbritt564]

Jim your are a great and vary smart but you real cannot believe that Biden is better for the US then Trump would have Been the US government is a real mess in my 58 years never seen it this bad

[@stephenrogers4537]

How to put it simple nowadays there's more Stoogen on the Talent🤔💥

[@rugmuncher2881]

HAD ME UNTIL THE POLITCAL CRAP STARTED, DONT CARE ABOUT CORNETTES POLITICS

[@anthonyv9324]

Ofc Cornette’s trump derangement syndrome pops up in another video

[@thesupervisor3270]

Shane, Chris and Bam Bam Bigelow wouldn’t let Scott Hall in the ECW event in Florida in 98 after Justin Credible brought him there when he was on the outskirts with WCW

[@jerry85g7]

Scott still ended up doing some ECW events later on.

[@aaryangupta5472]

@@jerry85g7 only one I think

[@anthonybatissa1417]

Calling the promoter/Booker to complain about the main talent is like a Soldier calling a Capo to complain about the Don in the Mob!

[@mikeking4349]

I think what it pretty much was with Flair was that Shane Douglas looked up to him and then he met him and he was a prick to him. He asked Flair to watch a match and said afterwards asked him how he liked that backbody drop of something like that and Flair said it was great but Shane never did one.

[@nickcox1408]

I saw a few of Shane's matches in ECW. I wasnt impressed. Plus there's no way he would've been allowed to be the franchise in WWF. Most of his promos were profanity laced. Plus, most of us didnt know about ECW. So wouldn't of known about the franchise. Waltman said he couldnt work. As Nash said "you cant have a match with kid you cant work."

[@NeilDinsmore]

I need that artwork as a canvas print.

[@GetBenched2010]

If Shane Douglas was a football player or basketball player, he would have been a first round draft bust. He was never a particularly great worker to begin with and never knew a bridge he didn't like burning. Hell, I can't even name ONE great match he ever had.

[@MattSingh1]

Most people don't know, but Sharon Sidello was in charge of WCW inbetween Bill Watts and Eric Bischoff.

[@dirtmcgirt8269]

Who was the dude in charge b4 Watts? I liked his version of WCW.

[@jeffhicks3184]

@@dirtmcgirt8269 Jim Herd

[@Fnoel98356]

@@dirtmcgirt8269 Kip Frye. & Sharon Sidello also married Ole Anderson also.

[@dirtmcgirt8269]

@@jeffhicks3184 Naw, it wasn't Herd

[@dirtmcgirt8269]

@@Fnoel98356 That's right. I never knew that she took over after or that she married Ole.

[@sr7312]

I recall the New Zealand Militia being the personal whipping boys of the Dynamic Dudes for a while.

[@WEK-kh8gd]

Love listening to Cornette!

[@rickpowers3677]

I disagree Shane's best years in the ring was in ECW.

[@josephmiller9424]

Shane was ECW champ he was trying to set up a big title match for ECW think Flair VS the Francise at the ECW PAY PER VIEW.

[@LastRightsZero]

cornette is a mark when it comes to politics

[@tankwfw]

I think Jim misses the issue here. Hall CAN have a match with anyone, if he wants. But he was fucking over Shane intentionally

[@MrSheckstr]

Corney voice cracking “here’s another thing...!!!!” Me: oh yeah we’re cooking with gas now!

[@jonathanbohm6489]

Apparently Shane Douglas failed to have a good match with Sean Waltman which soured him with the kliq and also he said his back hurt one night and forced HHH to work double

[@JorgeMunoz-gn5do]

Shane developed a back injury as told by doctors if he continued wrestling under those manipulative matches with the kliq, he would end up in a wheelchair. Shane was never the same when he worked with hall and Hall gave him a blantant shove you can see viewing it as shane ended the match gripping his back.

[@maxxdahl6062]

@@JorgeMunoz-gn5do If he was in that much danger of being in a wheel chair. A match with Gillberg would have put him in a wheelchair, not buying it.

[@JorgeMunoz-gn5do]

@@maxxdahl6062 He actually was crawling on the floor backstage cause his legs were moving in the right direction in some accounts. It was a combination of the injury and how the kliq made him hate being there when he came up. He was dedicated to work but the kliq sabotaged not only him but other wrestlers like bam bam Bigelow for headlining wrestlemania with LT as Shawn and nash were jealous, chris candido with tammy as Shawn Michael's slept with tammy driving Chris crazy, Carl Ouellette where Shawn Michael's wanted to starve him out to Vince by his own words and others. I believe its the injury but more how he grew distain being there mostly how he was treated cause he worked with a broken pallet, fractured cheekbone and two broken bone contusion in his right elbow in ECW fine for years.

[@maxxdahl6062]

@@JorgeMunoz-gn5do Like Cornette says, he was the only one with a huge inflated opinion of his own talents.

[@JorgeMunoz-gn5do]

@@maxxdahl6062 Pro wrestling his a very competitive medium of sports of sorts. Are you saying someone like Shane or anyone else is not allowed to have confidence in one owns abilities and want to make it big in a cut throat business of pro wrestling? He did burn some bridges for himself but the guy came with alot of expectations coming from Vince Mcmahon bringing him back up and was ready to show his worth but once Shawn Michael's had vinces ear, it was over not just for Shane. The main reason I believe is shane didn't want to kiss ass, play political games and was too smart for his own good that may have backfired on him a bit. He could have gone with the Dean character, but common sense is he wasn't going to make it with a stupid teacher gimmick that even the kliq agreed that he wasn't going to make it with that gimmick and even nash stated as I quote, "he wasn't going to make it even if he wanted too".

[@thesupervisor3270]

I have that Shane Douglas shirt 🤣

[@neilsmith9066]

The Franchise > The Game

[@chadk890]

Cant deny Triple H's toughness. Torn his quad and was trapped in the Walls of Jericho on the announce table in 2001. When he came back in 02, he got the biggest Pop of his career. You can't deny that.

[@That90sShow]

@@chadk890 ahahahahaha

[@chadk890]

@@That90sShow What's funny? Dispute what I said then..

[@isaac8657]

@@chadk890 I don't think the guy was talking about as actions but just gimmicks, hhh no doubt is a tough bastard who is a good wrestler but Shane was the OG game he invented everything 2000's triple h was

[@outis439-A]

@@isaac8657 Not really. They weren’t a like at all. Shane never got a character like Triple H. He had the laughing arrogant bully kinda guy which is not what Triple H was at all.

[@leostenbuck4194]

You can dislike a person and still believe them, that's what rational people do. Go watch 1-2-3 Kid match vs Shane Douglas. Match is perfectly fine, yet in Nash's own words "Pac gave him the stamp of death". They buried him on purpose.

[@thunderhandediii1832]

He deserved to be buried with his terrible gimmick and name

[@mr.x9566]

Does anybody here remember Shane's first run in the WWF? I used to consue him with Mr.Perfect as a child.

[@nathanwanner..44]

WWF did not know what to do with Shane, they fucked up and don't want to admit that

[@SpaceGhost92]

Say what you want, but the Kliq is maybe the most influential group in modern wrestling. Nash and Hall changed the game with their guaranteed contracts and the nwo speaks for itself. Michaels and Hunter with DX were really the first integral part of attitude era. 3 world champions and one of the best IC champs. Hard to top that.

[@LoganSewell83]

I can relate to HR being useless. A temp faked an injury and went home leading to my manager screaming like a lunatic. The HR mandated that everyone attend an online diversity class in which pineapple pizza was discussed. I was the only one in my department to attend. Another example was when a sales lady complained about sexual harassment. A sign was posted immediately afterwards on what is unacceptable conduct; one of which was not to stare at people. It is hard not to stare when the butterfingered HR wears booty shorts or tiny skirts.

[@ReflectionOfPerfection]

@@jamesb1988 As in clumsy. Constantly dropping stuff....sorry to kill your buzz but that's what it means lol

[@Dakatari]

Jim and Shane made a great tandem in WCW when Jim was managing him.

[@jnulpi]

it is always the same.the kliq piss someone off they didn`t like and making their Life`s a living Hell.Like to so many others.for example Pierre Quellet.

[@MrDagonOfTheDead]

A little off subject here, if AEW have PPVS we need Jim to have watch-alongs🤣 just so we don't have to wait a week for the gold🔥🔥🔥

[@glennrugar9248]

Shane should have rung Scott's fuckin bell until he cooperated. Maybe the kliq would have had more respect for him then

[@tankwfw]

It always surprised me that botches are so frowned upon in wrestling considering the suspension of disbelief that wrestling requires. Take MMA for example, not every offensive attack is successful. The fact that both guys seem to agree to do a move only helps discredit wrestling. Its perfectly healthy to have botches (worked or real) sometimes Also Shane is one of the most underrated wrestlers in history. I put him even higher than Jeff Jarrett but at least Jarett had TNA to let him play main eventer

[@tankwfw]

​@@jamesb1988​Thanks. I didn't think I explained it very well lol

[@six6thdisciple]

JIM CALLS WRESTLERS UN-ATHLETIC BUT WHEN AN ATHLETIC WRESTLER SAYS HE DOSENT WANT TO WRESTLE JIM CORNETTE THE MANAGER JIM TALKS IN A WAY TO MINIMIZE BEING ATHLETIC…BUT EVERYONE ELSE KILLED THE BUSINESS???…

[@blankwavemessiah]

fuck man.... the Kliq would be like fighting a handful of my GF's instead of just the one that I have a hard time with. I could never imagine like 5-6 of them all ganging up against me while being little turds. that would be terrible

[@takerdust]

A Scarface ripoff didn't like working with a goofy Dean.

[@modernchaos8999]

Typical liberal " he's a great guy, but he likes Trump so he's horrible." Let him tell this shit to Douglas. He won't Cornette is over rated

[@tomhood7343]

The Kliq seemed so toxic. If you didn't get along with them they would backstab and bury you.

[@tobiasfarragut292]

(Scratches Chalk board) DEFINITION..SU-PLEX!!

[@RouletteProductionsMedia]

I want to see that eight-man match

[@christianvasquez5838]

Brian and Cornette are absolute gold. I'm about to start West Coast Wrestling over here just to have them in charge of the creative team. 😛👌

[@derka346]

Trump 2020. Corny is racist facts

[@luvthedrake1375]

I'll wager he doesn't even vote.

[@David-li4uw]

I wish Jim would stfu about politics. I listen to this stuff to get away from that crap.

[@septv9995]

Never been impressed by any of Shanes promos. I dont see what other people see at all.

[@chadk890]

Better than anyone on AEW and WWE.