Jim Cornette on WWE's Writer's Room Under Vince McMahon

[@joshhildreth]

If I see Cornette and WWE writer in the same sentence, I'd better hear no less than 100 Russo insults...

[@tobiasfarragut292]

When I hear “Verbal Effluvia” I know Russo is in the neighborhood

[@hectorortiz5886]

You spelled 'shit stain' wrong 😂

[@MrSmokey59]

“You’ll never get out, you’re always in, I’ll shit on your head” 😂😂

[@above.average.gaming.natio3026]

i was done when i heard that

[@CraigCairney83]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@SmedleyButler-g6t]

GRRAAAAAAAAAAAH

[@skeletonbuyingpealts7134]

10:43

[@jeremy2684]

me to 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.​@BetterCallJamie

[@tarmac7777]

Comedian Patrice O'Neal once wrote for the WWE, his story about Vince and a turban is comedy gold.

[@yoholmes273]

"Put on that God Dang Turban!!! " 🤣🤣🤣🤣 🙏

[@claytonjones8358]

For a week

[@MrFoxxx47]

He said Stephanie called him and fired him like 5 times in the same conversation 😂

[@tarmac7777]

@@yoholmes273 LMAO

[@gayrambo4529]

Patreeky is the GOAT. "You're gonna wear the fuckin' turban!!"

[@anxofernandez3344]

I think Vince McMahon has a lot of issues, a feeling of infallibility and self-righteousness, a lot of childhood trauma, way too much money and power and probably a cocktail of steroids and drugs, a few concussions and bad sleep habits that have fried his brain. Couple that with a lot of childhood trauma and you get a sociopath.

[@bradkaitting8990]

10:49-10:53 "I'll s*** on your head" destroyed me.

[@TheBathrobeWizard]

I imagined Vince as a little Goblin saying that. Yes it is rather funny

[@iamdb1990]

the idea of the sneezing thing is actually insane lol

[@MikeStivicATS]

You don't know the half of it pal

[@MrSmokey59]

It’s good shit pal

[@RhysPitman94]

I think it's a rib on the boys and the fans for Vince to have a pop out of.

[@televiper11]

When WCW died and Vince no longer had to worry about people leaving for competition, he then had Carte Blanche to be abusive

[@smarkslowplay3512]

For sure. He always had an inferiority complex and many many neuroses and social/mental deficiencies though anyway

[@joegreene7619]

She was great in The Aviator.

[@SuperFunkmachine]

It also meant that the locker room got static and into power games, the court and back stabbing.

[@Oldaccount77777]

“Abusive” lol you people are weak and spent your entire childhoods on the internet.

[@televiper11]

@ Carte Blanchett, lmao

[@alcheman12]

That dress code one is hilarious. God forbid they dress like professionals lol

[@NotAdultingToday]

Yeah, that just told me the writers complaining about that are below 40 and don't know that's how work places work. I've worked at places I had to dress a certain way because they wanted us to be professionals.

[@alcheman12]

@NotAdultingToday I'm all for business casual, but if a boss or company want you to dress in business attire just do it or leave lol

[@smithmeister]

It's kind of pointless if they're not public or customer facing but hardly a hill worth dying on if the company paying you a wage asks for it.

[@andrebdd5818]

Vince would never do racial jokes. Especially saying the n word in front of Booker t

[@tzarro]

Tell me he didn't just say that...

[@stingrey1571]

That’s preposterous. That is like creating a stable of Latinos dressed as landscapers riding lawnmowers. No one would ever do that.

[@OzzyOscy]

What next? Walking up to someone with Middle-Eastern ancestry and calling him a terrorist?

[@uwaeliteprowrestling9570]

​@stingrey1571 I think Juvi has done at least a dozen interviews saying the lawnmowers and Mexi-Cool's name were both his idea... but I can understand why you would leave that part out.

[@RagingCookie127]

​@@uwaeliteprowrestling9570Or maybe he, like most wrestling fans, hasn't sat around watching Juvi interviews

[@Bask3tChase]

It’s Road Dog. Road Dog is the other former wrestler turned writer y’all were thinking of.

[@kylehuber9757]

Oh, you didn't know?!?!

[@above.average.gaming.natio3026]

huuuuuuuuuuuuh?

[@kylehuber9757]

@@above.average.gaming.natio3026 Your ass better CALL SOME BODAYYYYYY!

[@MrSmokey59]

It’s me! it’s me! that D O Double G!

[@JohnnyC257]

Road Dogg was and might still be an agent he wasn't a writer

[@JayJohns03]

Never thought I’d hear cornette reference the “no limit soldiers”

[@AshKetchum-br4lv]

I still remember the 'Vince Tears The Script' everytime I read the Smackdown/Raw results online.

[@frale_2392]

Sounds like the "wrestling people" were not used to a corporate environment and the writers where not used to a locker room environment. And Vince most likely didn't gave a shit as long as he was the biggest dog in the room and everybody did his bidding.

[@MPK112233]

I did NOT expect the No Limit Solidiers reference from Jim. UGGHHHH!!!

[@claytonjones8358]

I used to work at a major arena and was backstage during an wwe event 5 years ago, and they had 8 "writers" stuffed in a tiny green room

[@MariuszMroczek-dd7ku]

Vince was like Pacino in Scent of a Woman paired with his spirit animal Pepé le Pew.

[@zhougongjin2704]

Stop betraying vince.. after all he's done for us fans.. and stop betraying the rock too.. you fickle fans...

[@LadyTreez420]

Oh my gosh😂

[@MariuszMroczek-dd7ku]

@zhougongjin2704 LACES OUT!

[@LadyTreez420]

@zhougongjin2704 Vince has Done Alot for the fans growing up in that Era ( I started at Hogan ,Macho I'm glad I watched Now I am for HHH we need to give him more praise less bullsh!t he needs his Flowers 💐 if HHH was not there n this Vince thing popped off back then. I guessing the establishment would suffer then we would have to Go REALLY Watch, AEW.. So Ya I am Glad We Had Vince. and Happy Now it's Under The Reigns Of Hhh, Endeavor ,Rock & who ever the Frick Else 🤣

[@LadyTreez420]

@@MariuszMroczek-dd7ku is that a Ace Ventura reference 🤔😁

[@bigpoppa1234]

fear of retribution sounds like a tag team name.

[@huffmanelitetraining]

😂😂😂😂 facts 💯 I can hear Vince McMahon now after a writer's meeting....... "God dammit all of these writer's are so soft...... just living in fear of retribution...... wait a second..... that's it pal..... your NEW tag team champions 🏆 of the World Fear of Retribution that's it Pal........"

[@bigpoppa1234]

@@huffmanelitetraining That's good shit!

[@huffmanelitetraining]

@bigpoppa1234 you got it pal 👍

[@tobiasfarragut292]

Meng and the Barabrian - WWE post alliance

[@dansokulski4039]

I don’t understand why losing a job terrifies people so much that they eat shit and sacrifice their dignity. Maybe that’s why I’m currently unemployed. I could not let another adult yell at me like that without fighting or just leaving

[@swarnski8uu]

Locker room talk is still prevalent in some places. I work in a butcher shoppe of a supermarket. We are kept away, in a secluded room, by 4 walls and 2 doors. We say worse.

[@RagingCookie127]

It's the same for most working class men's industries, which, wrestling once was. Go to any construction site and the "boys will be boys" manchild culture is still going strong

[@swarnski8uu]

@RagingCookie127 manchild. You would not last in one day in dept. son.

[@weirdfan88]

That's everywhere real men work or chill.

[@RagingCookie127]

@@weirdfan88 You'll never catch "real men" with actual intelligence using that phrase.

[@oddishhonor]

Vince is crazy, everyone knows. But these writers are also idiots because a lot of their complaints come from a place of ignorance to how wrestling shows are done and structured, for better or worse.

[@R3cov3ry]

Stephanie would hire them BECAUSE they didn't come from wrestling and knew nothing about it, she would brag about getting 'Days of our lives ' writers.

[@oddishhonor]

@ idiots as far as the eye can see in those times, possibly now, who knows

[@NotAdultingToday]

Some of these writers sound like people who were never told no enough growing up. Or had a work ethic or professionalism instilled into them.

[@yahyashabazz5721]

You sound like a Vince apologist

[@deepblue8143]

​@yahyashabazz5721 i am and I make no apologies over it, don't like it don't care.

[@Dan-ni7qv]

Just think back on the last 20 years of WWE. It took a team of two dozen people to write that putrid, terrible, borderline unwatchable product. Incredible.

[@stingrey1571]

I don’t blame the writers at all. Vince hired a team just so he can tell him what he wanted. Jim ross once said the writers stopped writing for the audience and only wrote for Vince and his sense of humor and sensibilities.

[@adamg2031]

​@@stingrey1571 And then Vince would throw out the script and do his own thing anyway

[@alexcole4838]

And at it’s worst it was still far better than anything AEW has ever came up with. Says a lot.

[@jasonmercer5779]

Wally and the Beave had bunk beds in the first season. After that they had twin beds.

[@CallMeCrazyCallMePoor]

"Martin Luther King Jr. Day is very important to Vince." . . . ?

[@Frostbite08]

"I'd have voted for Obama a third time"- Vince McMahon.

[@DuragAllDay]

I thought there was going to be a punchline when Jim said that obvious bullshit.

[@PlatinumRoseLady]

Jim keeps saying "back when I was there they didn't do this/that/the other..." Can I point out that when Jim started working for WWF, Bill Clinton was still President? Over 30 years ago? Just an observation. Isn't it possible that things went way way WAY downhill after Jim went to OVW?

[@Oldaccount77777]

Vince was already in his 50s when Jim worked for him. Did you think this was some big “got ya”? Grown adults’ personalities don’t generally change too much from 50-70.

[@OpreRoma]

​@@Oldaccount77777 they can change massively actually. Brains can start to deteriorate with age and Vince is nearly 80

[@PlatinumRoseLady]

@watchitlive8460 I think you're onto something there.

[@PlatinumRoseLady]

@@OpreRoma Valid point.

[@Charzhino]

The simple answer is Vince respected wrestling insiders more than any modern day, ivy league corporate ladder climbers. Jim, JR, Patt Patison, Briscoe all were raised in the wrestling business so Vince had a respectable rapport with them because they were one of the boys. These modern writers are mostly submissive, kiss asses who are easily bullied and therefore easy targets for Vince/Pritchard/Hayes.

[@Kancerru]

After watching years of trash WWE tv, it's actually pretty cathartic hearing about these hack writers getting abused lol

[@jimreily7538]

Pretty sure Hulk Hogan wrote Rocky.

[@trevorhyde3139]

😂😂 Your comment deserves many, many more likes dude.....

[@davidlindsay3233]

18:30 - Twitter ain't gonna be happy with that one

[@deepblue8143]

Woke twitter opinions don't count.

[@sugartbube]

So writers are complaining about a boss being a boss

[@MrWrestling2]

Jim sometimes seems to accidentally pick a side prematurely then never consider reconsidering his original thought. He's such a good debater he doesn't miss a beat, but I've heard him on the other side of the creative room discussion in the past.

[@mikehunt9884]

"kingdom ruled by fear" i totally believe that based on the stories you hear.

[@simonl1135]

"You will never get out! I will shit on your head!" almost made me fell off the chair.

[@Kono_D._Oda]

Why were they afraid of Retribution? That's a group full of jobbers.

[@isaiahedmonson5832]

This comment is so funny

[@isaiahedmonson5832]

Retribution was actually pretty scary awful 😂😂😂

[@mjdf122]

Many women have been in the Writer’s Room under Vince McMahon

[@MariuszMroczek-dd7ku]

And wondered why a toilet seat was installed above them.

[@messey12]

They described the experience as "shitty"

[@robertnapier624]

@@messey12 you mean “the drizzling shits”

[@Random_ideit]

V Diddy has a dream about cornshole in that art

[@MariuszMroczek-dd7ku]

Cornholio! Vince needs Piccata...

[@MariuszMroczek-dd7ku]

Piccata!

[@Random_ideit]

​@@MariuszMroczek-dd7ku had to Google this, an Italian dish? If that's not what you mean, I probly don't want to know...

[@MariuszMroczek-dd7ku]

@@Random_ideit Beavis & Butthead Dude...

[@DONKEYKONG260]

​@@MariuszMroczek-dd7kuAre you threatening me??

[@CraigSmithII]

Jim Ross had said on one of his podcasts episodes talking about Bobby Heenan, he said the crew doing voiceovers at the studio was VERY happy that JR & Brain were working than Vince because they would be ALL day with Vince & with JR & Bobby everyone would getting home on time. Vince is a boss that has NO consideration of folks time & when you know who was told to hire a nanny because they couldn't spend time with their family, what that tells you about the man?

[@dddking9284]

Vince had a work ethic that was intense and projected it onto others

[@alexcole4838]

He expected hard work from the people he was paying for hard work? Instead of the bare minimum? What a monster! Right up there with Hitler, eh? We all know Vince should be paying his writers purely to sit with their hands on their cocks while playing video games. They’re only children after all! 40 year old children with wrinkles and grey hair and bald spots but still only children!

[@smarkslowplay3512]

Corn gets more views in 20 minutes on one YT clip than clips from Russo or Prichard or many others in 2 years

[@atimetraveler4910]

I mean he does have 5 times as many subs 😂😂😂

[@redrum2612]

"No Limit Soldier...I thought I told ya!" 😄

[@that.canadian.vaper.guyTCVG]

Corny is making light of the situation, but Vince from 20 years ago would be vastly different from Vince 4 years ago. Corny doesn't need a job, probably for the rest of his life, but these writers need to bootlick and ass-kiss in their industry. Vince, being the boss, most likely knew the situation, and that's why he became the boss straight outta hell. Factoring in how Vince already was prior to WWE going public? Yeah, it's easy to see how bad Vince became lol

[@Scott__C]

But no matter when it was, Vince deciding the whole story was always terrible. He wanted to make movies, but then balked at writers making movies/TV shows.

[@BA22378]

11:26 is Brian's best vince impersonation ever and it killed me 😂

[@richardmartin8804]

I don’t know if this is a thing that I missed, but it’d be awesome if Jim Ross and Jim Cornette would have a super long podcast together just talking about the old days and answering fan questions. It would be interesting to see them collaborate stories. The writing room days would be some great stories.

[@gayrambo4529]

My buddy Joe was a writer for WWE. He was the guy who pulled out his glass eye on TV a long time ago.

[@robintst]

Your buddy was Uncle Joe Jericho with the glass eye?

[@onivid999]

The standing part sounds like a culture a bunch of kissass writers started to keep their jobs.

[@lstonele]

To me it sounds like it was a rib and they took it seriously

[@kylewicks6133]

​@@lstoneleit started out as hayes or bruce but I'd put money on hayes told some pencil neck to do that just to fuck with him and then every lackey did it because nobody smartened the original dipshit up

[@kyleday5026]

what makes cornette really crazy is he thinks what the writers experienced was normal behaviour like someone touching there balls etc its not normal thats what makes the business so wacky

[@AAORD-Fly]

It seems like Rolling Stone just talked to this 1 former writer then just took stories online about working for Vince online

[@Someone-z8r]

Jim with the bars

[@rumbledcrumbled1099]

I seriously wonder if Ribbing was apart of the culture in WWE. Like maybe the managers who you'd think have been around wrestling for a while were just messing with the new writers and were like "Stand up when Vince walks in". Kinda like in WCW when they told Giant to wear the belt in the airport

[@abdul-rahmaantobin4441]

Brian sounds more like one of Marge's twin sisters from the Simpsons.

[@aw0fficial]

All of it sounds like the army.

[@benespinosa6725]

first lol I'm just glad that WWE'S product has gotten a whole lot better since vince left now raw and smackdown aren't chores to sit through anymore plus vince isn't there screaming in the announcers ears anymore which is a blessing because of what mick foley went through in 2008.

[@zhougongjin2704]

I as a fan would rather take a bad product over making sure that none of the commentators get their feelings hurt..

[@benespinosa6725]

​@zhougongjin2704 you got a point there lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@zhougongjin2704]

@benespinosa6725 i meant "better product" lol

[@benespinosa6725]

​@zhougongjin2704 oh that's what you meant 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@anthonyrowland9072]

I've never actually heard one thing from Vince that would make me wanna spend any real time with him. Even before all the "Stuff" came out...

[@BigKat96]

While i don't want to discredit peoples experience i feel alot of these stories are people punching up their time with the WWE and working for Vince using the already known or accepted lore of same (i.e vince hates sneezing turns into "we were instructed not to and yelled at if we sneezed in the same room as Vince" or the early 2ks when Vince wanted the wrestlers to dress nice coming to the arena or traveling turns into "we had to have our shoes polished to military dress standard at all times")

[@Leo_McMahon]

Cornette in the thumbnail lol

[@dskinner8757]

"Arrrreeeeaaathhhhaaaaa Frrrrrannnnkklinnn" - Vince McMahon 😂

[@freew0rrld]

You'll never get out, you're always in 😂😂😂

[@televiper11]

“Fear of retribution” - Vince ran it like the mob.

[@theazureknight9399]

"I'll make an offer you can't refuse, pal."

[@crowdpleaser2k]

Tony D based on Vince confirmed

[@RamonReyes-u6y]

13:00 Yep he was just wandering the neighborhood. Lurking some would call it. Always looking for Boy Scout meetings to volunteer at.

[@FSLong1]

33:43 😂😂😂

[@jeremy2684]

It sounds to me like these former writers trying to get some free money. I say that because of lot of this stuff sounds very insane to me over here.

[@limitlessandy1117]

Corny: One guy wrote Rocky right? Me: Yeah, Plumber Moxley. "Thats badass" 🤡

[@MetalJT24]

Dope

[@alphatoddio]

Breaking Bad

[@henrygvidonas9573]

"Wrote" it, ripped it off from Chuck Wepner's real life story - whatever works.

[@jimreily7538]

I thought it was Hulk Hogan

[@TheMadvillainy]

Cornette’s respect for Vince is too obvious here. Laughing and dismissing stories that if they were said about Tony Khan, Jim and Brian would be shredding into him like Wolverine.

[@juliandavidhoffer2022]

Yes obviously he respects the man he has insulted numerous times talking about how insane he is by driving through his own garage door because he forgot to open it. So much respect.

[@alexcole4838]

@@juliandavidhoffer2022Nah. Just another paranoid, immature social media goon who gets bitter, thinks the whole world is against them and tries to turn everything into a game of “Us vs Them” anytime someone expresses a differing opinion to theirs.

[@skullkidsid2418]

Im black and I seriously fail to see anything offensive about Neville doing a I Have A Dream promo on MLK day

[@SeamHead33]

Exactly and that it is actually the DEFINITION OF RACIAL DISCRIMINATION, to tell a White man he's not allowed to say something due to the color of his skin. It's ridiculous and hypocritical

[@benderisgreatandyouknowit]

Bender is great!

[@eamonwright7488]

Bender party tonight!

[@MariuszMroczek-dd7ku]

“Bite my shiny metal ass!”

[@KamoMustafaWWE]

55 minutes. I guess I'll save this one for the dishes.

[@Feenix102]

I'm just wondering if Jim was in some sort of... not privileged position exactly, but would Vince have seen him as old guard and treated him differently than Joe Blow that just walked in off the street? Because I mean, Jim was already something of a face by the point he got to WWE, wasn't he? Maybe that's why he only saw a...not censored, but maybe a not as extreme side of Vince compared to everyone else. Just a thought.

[@BainesMkII]

Jim is also indoctrinated to the culture to the point that he doesn't see anything wrong with some of the problematic behavior. Like when he defends abusive behavior as normal, or previously defended locker room sexual assault as perfectly acceptable horseplay.

[@Feenix102]

@@BainesMkII Yes, the indoctrination is clear to me - I'm just wondering if the above plays a role.

[@jeffreydawson4520]

I find it interesting that by not being able to have a white person say “I have a dream” it basically negates the entirety of what MLK was talking about. His whole point was to not judge people solely based off the color of their skin but by the content of their character, therefore it shouldn’t matter what the persons color was. I highly doubt that was Vince’s objection to them changing who delivered the line, but I do find the underlying issue interesting.

[@lodi70005]

Ok…great. Only, this was Vince McMahon’s version of the Martin Luther King story. Nothing Vince produces contains class.

[@paulc1553]

This is going to be good. Enjoy!

[@ReverseSkeleton]

Jim, boy do I have some news for you. Some Hollywood movies have so many writers, it would make your head spin

[@AAORD-Fly]

It sounds like being told to stand up when Vince comes in is a rib on the writers

[@andrewlivingston1590]

A *lot* of movies have a huge number of writers, some of whom may have never met each other: it’s just that oftentimes most of them are uncredited. Didn’t Halley Barry mention “Catwoman” having twenty-something writers in her Razzie acceptance speech?

[@CraigCairney83]

You hear the stories about Vince in the mid 90s and while he was mad, he still seemed a bit normal lol. He was in decent shape, voice was clear, wasn’t out his head on steroids 24-7. He was riding in the cars from town to town, going to bars sometimes with the boys. When you see him in the early 00s he just seemed totally bonkers. Became a billionaire, private planes, jacked to the max! Screaming, covered in fake tan and oil. Seemed an absolute nut job by then.

[@pccleric]

Wally and the beaver did have a bunk bed thank you very much

[@ivormctin6367]

So these writers were bitching about having to wear business attire to work?! Losers!

[@nunyanunya4147]

i dont care what rich people do... but it is a telling state ov humanity when official court documents use verbiage like 'bully' and 'good ol' boys'. are these people adults or did everyone wish on a gypsie fortune teller box and get to be adult-sized?

[@positively_broad_st3780]

I made the No Limit Soldiers comment just one second before Corny did...😅

[@Charzhino]

Id love to have seen camera footage of Corny, Bruce and JR in Vinces lounge pitching ideas and Patt Patison walking in ribbing Vince. Seems like more pleasant times than the corporate nature the business turned into now behind the scenes.

[@Zeke_O3773]

It’s instinctive. I was working and half listening to this video (I’m done with Vince) and I heard Brian mention the “Merritt Parkway” and a shiver went down my back… awful place… I think depression’s patient 0 drove up and down that road for a living.

[@PAlt-p6y]

Vince spoke to Vince about Vinny and how he evinced and evoked Vincent's vision.

[@2ozOz]

Jim saying he told Kevin Dunn he makes hundreds of thousands of dollars so he should fix his teeth is hilarious man

[@pulsarstargrave256]

WWE was now being publicly traded so it makes sense Vinnie Mac or whomever wanted the writers room to be more "corporate"and professional.

[@stellarjl319]

33:42

[@Halbared]

Love how tje sidekick automatically believes 💯 % of these Dilberts.

[@jasonjimerson7046]

A hot topic!!! 🔥🔥🔥

[@pisaum]

I love these 🎉

[@kyleday5026]

when cornette is talking about vince its from 1999 he never knew him after that he would have changed

[@fhqwgads5000]

Two things catch my attention: Vince is always late and Vince changes things as if he just wants to exert control. Vince isn't always late because he's some busy superman. He's always late because he's weak and feeble and takes forever to do basic tasks. Based on my experiences with my mom getting older, this sounds like textbook dementia.

[@crowdpleaser2k]

No way Jim underestimates the lengths rabid and idiotic wrestling fans will go to.

[@realrobrose]

Not everyone's built to say "fire me, then."

[@highlordlaughterofcanada8685]

I think Jim underestimates how petty some wrestling fans can be if he doesn't think some won't try to ruin a writers life for being in a Rolling Stones news article.

[@kanekanekaneable]

Yes

[@lookitskazzy]

It's really funny that Jim can't seem to comprehend that people change over time and/or there was a double standard that didn't apply to the good ole boys

[@buddabudda]

There is a certain level of irony with not wanting a person of a certain race to reference a speech about not treating people differently due to their race.

[@adambrown9793]

That's the problem with wrestling these days. To many writers, not enough bookers.

[@mbranch99]

"I'm a poet and don't know it, but my feet show it because they're Longfellows." I'm pretty sure that's somewhere in the bible.

[@scottmartin3228]

Writer's Room is a common thing for TV shows. Where a group of people are gathered in a room coming up with ideas. It's a waste of money for shows because half the staff are glorified interns.

[@markcafebrown2883]

We ❤ Brian and 🌽 ie

[@DMD.The.MeNaCe]

When I went to sleep I had a dream then I woke up and don't remember it.

[@TheSmithmeister619]

Jim talks about the Vince of the 90s that he knew, clearly Vince from 98/99 on was a different person

[@catherinematthew6240]

Mick Foley daughter was one of the writers did she go though this too.

[@joshhildreth]

I love the first part where Vince dresses down a writer for racially insensitive material. Also Vince... keep it up n****!

[@LimaKiloRomeo]

The thing is that w/ Jim having not worked there since Vince had sense, he didn't experience nearly what those that came after (that couldn't quit like Jim could/would). Some of the stuff, however, seems to be surprising instead of outright new info to Jim. Also, Jim has no children & has just about never had to really work. Someone not wanting to let go of a job like this & taking the abuse sounds crazy to Jim, just like he sounds crazy to them.