JIM ROSS: "NO, I didn't like MACHO MAN RANDY SAVAGE!"

Jim Ross discusses his relationship with Randy Savage, the Macho Man.
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[@TrailerParkCinderella]

I feel like I've never heard JR speak about Macho ever. Makes sense now

[@MichaelMedici61W2]

Good point. Now we know why

[@Fuzzie_Dunlop968]

"Macho Man" Randy Savage didn't do lines of cocaine. Cocaine did lines of "Macho Man" Randy Savage.

[@WidSilson]

Oooooh yeaaaaaah!!

[@Fuzzie_Dunlop968]

@@WidSilson Snap into some Sniff, Jim!

[@cutekanjii]

Was ecstacy he was into

[@Spooky_515]

Randy did coke!?! 😱

[@russblack443]

​@@Spooky_515look up Teddy longs story about taking Randy and Dick Slater to get some weed in Atlanta. The guys got in the Van and said he had coke too and pulled out a big bag and Slater and Savage choked him out and stole his money and drugs.

[@lethalwastejams5942]

From a fan perspective SAVAGE is one of the greatest of all time!

[@spiritchild9101]

Yeah, Hogan, Macho, Flair, and Piper are the big four.

[@wizzerwiser2056]

@@spiritchild9101 I wouldn't put Flair on that list. Andre over all of them for sure.

[@avalond1193]

​@@wizzerwiser2056 flair deserves that spot

[@wizzerwiser2056]

@@avalond1193 no he doesn't. he wasn't a draw like the rest of them.

[@Doniedaff]

As a wrestler yes. Piece of shit human being though.

[@jabrockobiden9434]

Im sure randy didnt like jr either

[@MichaelMedici61W2]

Most likely.

[@Goawaykidyoubotherme]

A bit of a bully says the guy who helped bury Bart Gunn for smacking around his precious Dr Death

[@Fuzzie_Dunlop968]

Sassafras.

[@lukashood25]

Jim is such a fake, people feel bad for him due to his disability but he’s always been a jerkoff.

[@nicholashurst780]

Even aside from that, we are talking about the guy who changed and ending to put Diamond Dallas Page over and make him a giant star (Randy Savage chose to lose to DDP in their feud, DDP showed up to the arena expecting to lose). A toxic husband? Yes Randy was. A bully? Really? Compared to who? Like even the nicest guy in the WWE (Taker/Mark) has told stories of him doing shit (like holding wrestlers' court) that's such intense bullying it is literally against federal labor law while Savage was always elevating other performers and he's the bully? Ross, Vince, everyone in charge have loved despicable pieces of shit who did literal felony assault and they call it "ribbing" while not promoting their victims on TV (which might justify it as initiation hazing) but Savage was the bully. Jim Ross put over JBL and Sparkplug Holly and wants to claim anyone ever in history was a bully but not them? Honestly, I'm not even offended by Oklahoma anymore because Jim Ross does not deserve to be treated better than he treats others.

[@jackhughes7637]

​@@nicholashurst780 You've completely misunderstood the original comment

[@squarepickle]

​@@nicholashurst780 Savage may have been a "toxic" husband, but at least he was protective. Elizabeth didn't overdose with Randy.

[@ABSF49]

I'll never forget when Jim Ross got p***** off. Because Bart Gunn beat the hell out of one of the toughest guys ever doctor death.

[@theshipoffools]

Way to go Vince Russo...what a horrible idea that whole thing was.

[@MattAlbie]

Clearly not THAT tough

[@buckster2575]

It was more luck than anything.

[@filmgeekstudios4393]

How do you know he was pissed?

[@gst013]

He definitely wasn't one of the "toughest guys ever" 😅

[@alphatoddio]

Macho man...was the cream of the crop😂

[@erikrasmussen7953]

And as we all know, the cream rises to the top.

[@Wwesvr11bestprojects]

Ooooh yeah. The macho man nigga

[@garystephenson9412]

Better than the best

[@zlinedavid]

On balance, off balance doesn’t matter, I’m better than you are

[@curthennig9448]

@@erikrasmussen7953 That's what Pat Patterson believed.

[@markula_4040]

It's funny (not really) how it's become cool to slight Macho Man due to his 'insecurity' but Steve Austin pleads no contest to domestic violence and it's basically been forgotten. This isn't me hatin' because I like both guys but it seems like because Macho died, he can't redeem himself in many of these people's eyes because all I hear these days are his flaws.

[@KVdaKrook44]

What?

[@kidneystonermusic]

​@@KVdaKrook44😆

[@dree35]

what do you guys not get? Brain's must not be developed enough... He's saying that people take shots at macho man & its absolutely corny because he isn't here to defend hisself/show people that he changed. Multiple wrestlers (Shawn HBK Michaels, Steve STONE COLD Austin, Jake THE SNAKE Roberts, & ETC.) have showed themselves to change with time (with time, wisdom comes along.) @@kidneystonermusic

[@dree35]

My reponse towards @kidneystonemusic is also for you@@KVdaKrook44

[@KVdaKrook44]

@@kidneystonermusic 🤣🤘🏿

[@isaachowardjr-ck9lh]

Macho Man was humble, wasn't a racist, wasn't stingy, wasn't beating women, he donated to the poor and children, he's in my top ten wrestlers of all time. I never heard him say the N word, or sexually assaulting any woman, and he was humble.

[@forestgrumpy119]

Sounds like you know him personally 😂

[@LeeEricsson]

I’m sure he wasn’t perfect but at least he was a better man than Terry Bollea.

[@Thurs1t0]

Let’s crap on the dead guy. Smh. Lossed respect for jim here, he’s a bigger legend than you

[@BkBk-gy6vr]

Legend in your mind and his own mind. Ego is all Randy had.

[@MiSambra]

@@BkBk-gy6vr Nah, you're wrong. Most fans consider Macho a legend.

[@hellothere-b6q]

Like him or not; Macho Man Randy Savage was ONE OF A KIND! UUUUUUUUUUUUUH YEEEEEEEAAAAH!!!! 💪😯💪

[@jaythor70]

Everyone is one-of-a-kind. Even a twin...

[@hellothere-b6q]

@@jaythor70 Yes, even dumb people. 😅😂

[@MikeSharon-ht2ce]

"OHHHHHHHH YEAHHHHHH"

[@jaythor70]

@@hellothere-b6q That's why I'm here, to educate you, so you won't be dumb.

[@rambidee4184]

Love this comment

[@charlesmarcus7864]

The irony of JR calling someone a "bully." Maybe Macho man saw through JRs b.s. JR plays favorites and he's quite the bully himself ala when Bart Gunn knocked out his boy Dr. Death. Obviously JR was happy about it and WWE even did a segment on this. I'm sure JR was responsible for Bart Gunn having to fight Butterbean which made no sense. I'm sure if Dr. Death won he wouldn't have had to fight Butterbean. It made no sense to kill off Barts momentum....unless JR had anything to do with it or as Macho man said "burying" him for winning the tournament.

[@BrandonHeat243]

JR's not a pdfile though so JR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Macho.

[@Roger-ug6bp]

Hard to be bullied by a guy whose left side of his face sags like an 87-year-old's snatch.

[@TehUltimateSnake]

@@BrandonHeat243 ?????

[@DavysFlicks]

JR fellates Bill Watts but Savage was a no-good bully? Sober up, Jim..

[@MrVante247]

Smaaaart marrrrksss 🤣🤣🤣

[@redactedandredactedaccesor7290]

oh he said the thing! @@MrVante247

[@ChrisP-in8qr]

​@@MrVante247truth hurts

[@foreverunsaved6661]

Bill Watts had red in his neck, Randy Savage didn't

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

​@@ChrisP-in8qrNot really 😂

[@danman1789]

JR had a long "office" career and this is one of his big failures, big blind spots.

[@DixiePokerAce]

I didn't remember Jim Ross being in the WWF for that long when Randy Savage was there. Savage's big days in the WWF were in the mid to late 80s. By the time Ross got to the WWF in about 1993, Savage was almost done there and ready to head to WCW.

[@nobodyfamousX]

He might have been rolling around backstage before he got high enough on the totem pole to be on TV for people to know who he was. Or if he was working for a different promotion he could have run into Savage another way. I feel like if you work in an industry like that you just end up running into other people in your business

[@fightsports66]

There were points where JR was not on the air but running talent relations in WWF and there were points when JR was in WCW where he was not on the air but he was on the booking committee.

[@JPFrancois75]

They did WMIX together, and Savage left in beginning of 94, I believe. My timeline could be off a little.

[@JPFrancois75]

@@fightsports66I don’t think JR was talent relations in 93-94, and Savage wasn’t in WCW when JR was there.

[@albertross2456]

Yeah he ended up in WCW, it's not like that was a forgone conclusion at that time. He would've stayed in WWF if he was getting the opportunity and the money they were making in WCW I'm sure.

[@darthbigred22]

They call Randy paranoid about Miss Elizabeth yet she died young of a drug overdose after she left him… Sounds more like a man who knew what was up and was trying to stop it

[@McFarlaneDragonClan]

Exactly

[@six6thdisciple]

FRFR

[@truthsocialmedia]

Yep

[@thegoughandbordenfamily8234]

Macho knew Vince liked defeating on women. That's why he locked Elizabeth in a dressing room.

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

​@@thegoughandbordenfamily8234That is still a bad look on Randy

[@Jwjmcc]

He admitted in the past he tried to sink Jesse Ventura aswell by not reacting to his banter

[@albertross2456]

Jr is great, but I sense he has a hateful or selfish streak behind the scenes as he plays the good fair guy

[@onewarriornation602]

​@@albertross2456He is a two faced asskissing backstabber.

[@steve9473]

@@albertross2456 He is bitter. Savage never liked him either, so the feeling was mutual. He was one of the people who shot down the idea of having one more match with Hogan.

[@billybob5337]

@@steve9473 you mean one more match between Savage and Hogan?

[@rickstalentedtongue910]

Yes, Ross is a habitual liar, this is the third time from three different wrestlers where he is accused of the same thing, but just deflects saying it is the other guys problem. The truth seems to be that Ross was very insecure about his job security and would sabotage a risk to his career.

[@ltopomcfly5583]

Damn, Ross must really hate him LOL He keeps mentioning his dislike. I think Savage probably didn't respect JR who was from the little leagues when he thrown into commentary with Randy and Bobby Heenan. Ross is known as a grump and Savage is known as a hot head. Makes sense that they didn't like each other. Their personal relationship does influence JR's opinion. JR never mentions Savage as one of the greats and Randy was better than Taker, Austin and HBK.

[@sj4632]

He was not better than any of those…

[@ltopomcfly5583]

Yeah, ask any random person walking down the street who isn't a WWE mark. Probably Ric Flair too. The man had what will forever be known as the greatest match of all time. And wrestling will never be as popular as it was then.@@sj4632

[@BAztid]

@@sj4632 Savage was greater than Taker in terms of both star power and talent. WWE have overhyped Taker due to his strong political standing within the company. Savage wasn't quite as big a star as Austin, although he was a better worker. Savage was a miles bigger star than Michaels (whom WWE have also overhyped), and in the same ballpark as a worker, although I'd say Michaels has more truly great matches.

[@thegoughandbordenfamily8234]

​@@sj4632Better than all 3 combined!

[@dannywholuv]

​@@sj4632make no mistake, Savage was the GOAT

[@daveconleyportfolio5192]

The wrestlers we're still fascinated by are hard to pin down. They weren't normal people doing a job the way we'd do it. They are mysteries, defiant mysteries, and we like it that way.

[@drjay73]

I agree 100%

[@shadowbear66]

How the hell do you know what I like speak for yourself

[@tylermcnally8232]

Nope.

[@DarkwingDann]

Bus riders should never judge bus drivers

[@Youdatguy]

He made Warrior look like he can wrestle and I’m a huge UW fan.

[@charliebrownie4158]

Randy's wrestling abilities made so many look like less than amateurs. He forgot more than any wrestlers could remember.

[@TheeCoachg]

How come JR doesn’t talk about how paranoid Austin bullied Debra??? So much so,the cops were called.

[@XTR02]

Because, Jim Ross wasn’t married to Debra, nor was he married to Austin. He didn’t live with the married couple. So, what the hell are you expecting him to say? He was a commentator and the head of talent relations- he wasn’t the personal babysitter of their home-life. Use your brain next time.

[@Forever_Thatter]

because he ain't got enough integrity to do so.

[@wizzerwiser2056]

He never said anything bad about Macho Man.

[@JJA1987]

It's none of your business.

[@allencollins5666]

​@@Forever_ThatterTrue

[@Jhoncena22]

“He was a bully” Now listen to why Bill Watts gets a bad rap.

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

I won't call savage a Bully he was a perfectionist .

[@jaythor70]

@@jacksmith-mu3ee Perfectionist is when you want to be perfect. Bully is when you try to make others conform to your idea of perfect. That was Randy.

[@DevoJetBoy8680]

Bill Watts was a promoter who had certain expectations and was a man's man. Today's pantywaist generation wouldn't understand that.

[@DevoJetBoy8680]

@@jacksmith-mu3ee AMEN! Randy would puke looking at today's willy nilly pro wrestling landscape.

[@trevorhembrough1290]

@@DevoJetBoy8680No, he was a Bully. Hush, Child.

[@patrickclark6430]

Conrad, stop saying "innuendo" 🙏

[@titansrule72]

if savage returned with the nwo in 2002.. it couldve been amazing.

[@michaelmercury1297]

Randy Savage vs Stone Cold may have been great.

[@alexandru5369]

It would've been cool but he was done wrestling, in ring wise, by 2000 his knee's were having issues and he already had bad hips from doing the elbow drop. He was done

[@71956AV]

Would have been better if he returned to WWE in 2000 or 2001.

[@Fred63205]

Savage could have been the mouthpiece at least for the nWo. They could have found something else for hbk

[@BigBadJerryRogers]

They should have done that because he was in Spiderman and that was huge. Could have capitalized on it

[@danman1789]

A bully, that's ridiculous. He had the same attributes that the other guys in his class had. JR couldn't "handle" him and as an HR guy that's literally what your job is

[@Stonehorn]

You’re an idiot. Theres tons of stories about Randy’s control freak bullshit and getting aggressive in the locker room out of nowhere, especially about liz in the 80’s/90’s. The truth doesn’t hurt.

[@spiritchild9101]

But, who actually knew him: you or J.R.?

[@Tumorcoach]

You sound like a sensitive dork for Macho. You knew nothing about the real him stop pretending

[@danman1789]

@@spiritchild9101 I know, fair point. only going off of what I've read and heard over many years

[@Lemont5236]

JR wasn’t HR at the time Savage was employed there

[@TheManifestationMovement]

Sounds like JR is being interviewed by the younger version of himself.

[@alltheworldsastage.]

Maybe he is interviewing himself!

[@catfishcooler1566]

Vince hated that his company's profitability depended on these wrestlers and their reputations. Vince wanted fans to come to a WWF/WWE sports entertainment event not a Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, or Randy Savage wrestling match. It took him decades but he finally achieved what he wanted. The only people still watching the show or going to WWE events are WWE sports entertainment fans. And nobody knows or cares who is actually wrestling that night. They are all interchangable and disposable. Just draw 8 names out of the hat and do some silly 8-man circle jerk to start the show. Orange Julius can't make it? Replace him with Zane Zodiac and nobody watching will care or even know the difference. It's SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT... not wrestling. And nobody is watching anyway.

[@billybob5337]

thats why most of the posters starting featuring almost the whole roster, and why we now have THREE main events at Wrestlemania

[@slabbusterrtr7690]

Independent by u cant go work for somebody else yeah that's NOT independent he did that so he didn't have to give them insurance or pension

[@eddiemoney1093]

The best mania in 20+ years happening yesterday while JRs current employer is going on tv whining why don't people like me made this comment age pretty poorly.

[@StarCadet]

Yeah, I have felt like that for at least the last 10 years. WWE isn't wrestling, it is personalities. People come to see their favorite Instagram stars. WWE could cut out the wrestling all together and no one would care.

[@elijahablaze]

Savage's match with Ricky Steamboat at Wrestlemania was one of the greatest matches you will ever see

[@ItsJustUsEnt]

I think Him vs Warrior @ Mania was one of his Best Matches.

[@Director2024]

Savage was the first Mr. Wrestlemania. Thats why he is 1 and HBK 1a in my book.

[@albertross2456]

Hell yeah

[@jonsprong1842]

That was Wrestlemania 3, but I completely concur. He was tremendous.

[@jamesoshea494]

No. It was the greatest match. Not one of the greatest, but the greatest. The back and forth pinning combos, the unexpected maneuvers. Just incredible. The other 2 intercontinental title matches with perfect and hart and Ramon and Michaels were runner ups.

[@BigBoss-zi5ss]

Randy Savage may have been paranoid and insecure but doesnt make him a bad person..there are many stories of ppl saying Randy always madr time to sign for fans and take pics with kids..thats what counts

[@Glasschin2.0]

Doesn’t make him a bad person but some people don’t take accountability and learn from their mistakes. I’ve got a mate who’s 40 , who has ruined every relationship he’s been in due to jealousy and being insecure. Even now he’s been with a lady a few years and has a young baby and he’s repeating the some behaviour but can’t see it. I work with a guy who’s 60 and on the verge of his third divorce. His first two marriages broke down because he works too many hours and both his exes played away. Yet he still takes every shift under the sun , working weekends and back holidays. He cancelled two holidays with his wife last year, making her go alone. Yet he doesn’t see that he’s the issue.

[@BigBoss-zi5ss]

@@Glasschin2.0 yea I would say the 40 has problems and the 60 yr old has major problems mentally..but most likely they won't change..tell you the truth there is a story of Randy doing something messed up (allegedly ) to that girl he was dating in WCW..he had cameras in her house cause he was so jealous

[@finlay316]

JR is salty. Savage is the man

[@Provos7777]

Not everyone is going to get along, doesn't make someone " salty "

[@Stayinoutoftrouble]

Never heard Savage was a bully. Honestly I think JR mixes people up.

[@CaptainAngelo]

I don’t think you’re being fair to say that he salty, I think he’s being extremely mature, there are people in your life you don’t like, but you can respect and that’s all he’s saying. Not once did he say that he was a bad performer in fact, he says the opposite, he says you’d have to be a fool not to see the star.

[@OfficialJarradHewett]

Machos point about being buried for doing promos for live events he wasn’t booked for was in regards to people expecting him and then being upset when he wasn’t there.

[@brandonrylant8191]

Randy did a lot for kids charity’s and it didn’t bully he didn’t take no shit from no body

[@prestonpfeiffer]

Its ironic the parallels between Savage and Austin,yet JR would wipe Austin’s ass with his bare hands if he had to. I like JR but his opinion changes on who he got along with personally/made money with.

[@Mic_Flex]

Macho was my guy….. oooooooh yeah.

[@Bonafide-Lifestyle]

I think Macho would apologize if he knew this how you felt JR just to bury the hatchet, if he was still here

[@michaelmclaren8950]

Randy wasnt brought back in because of the amount of money Vince and the WWE lost when he left and jumped ship. Eric Bischoff said "Randy AND LANNY cost wcw and turner basically NO MONEY to bring them in. The snack food contract was for Randy not WWE. So when Randy left we got the advertisements from slim Jim for $500,000 per year, it had nothing to do with Stephanie"

[@taylorsmith9629]

Yawn the same old wrestling stories. Randy Savage sleeping with Stephanie story is as tired as the Montreal Screwjob.

[@WitsEnds]

savage wasn't a bully. insecure or paranoid maybe but not a damn bully. he was a good dude.

[@squarepickle]

I've never heard anyone call Savage a bully. Almost everyone you hear from says they loved him.

[@MrVante247]

Smaaaart marrrrksss 😂

[@Graterstuuf]

Randy Savage was the greatest the end

[@jaythor70]

In your opinion.

[@thegoughandbordenfamily8234]

It's generally understood to be fact ​@@jaythor70

[@jaythor70]

@@thegoughandbordenfamily8234 it's not fact, because it's subjective. Even if it's a popular opinion, it's still an opinion.

[@prestonpfeiffer]

People say Savage was paranoid but what happened to Elizabeth THE MOMENT he left WCW? She got with Lex & began a spiral,being his mistress & drug companion. The Wrestling business was dangerous.

[@CSQuah]

yeah, Savage loved her and probably knew she was easily influenced, hence the paranoia

[@tjjordan4207]

That’s something I noticed as well. He was definitely too controlling and went about it the wrong way but he was right about the professional wrestling being dangerous for people like her who are easy prey. He at the very least was trying to protect her from all that.

[@nonyabiz550]

While Gorgeous George was Randy's drug companion. You try to project virtues onto these people that they didn't have. They both cheated. They both did drugs. They were both sleazy as the other

[@benjaminharrisongray9079]

I think Randy was pretty much right about everything, it turns out. Sorry, Jim.

[@HamSandwich-xk3om]

After he retired from wrestling, Randy Savage married his high school sweetheart and was married to her until he passed away. That is just for any fans that didn't know.

[@squarepickle]

Savage had a very similar personality to Austin. Jim makes excuses as long as he personally likes you. I have never heard anyone else call Randy Savage a bully.

[@jaythor70]

Then you haven't been listening. He locked Elizabeth in his locker room, and had words with anyone who talked to her. He was liked and disliked, but paranoid and bullying behavior come up in interviews. Most wrestlers don't say it, because he didn't bully them.

[@anish3183]

Savage was an absolute terrible person to his girlfriends.

[@one_with_kevrything9825]

Savage was a complicated guy. He definitely did some really questionable things to his girlfriends and talent.

[@BlitzkriegBryce]

​@@jaythor70 considering how the business was back then/is... I don't blame him.

[@fuzzluvver69]

​@@jaythor70And yet he has been PROVEN to have been absolutely justified in being paranoid and defensive, as so many wrestlers of that time have told the backstage stories of drugs, alcohol, general debauchery, poor behaviour, harassment, steroids, uppers and downers, and generally lifestyles that resulted in many, many untimely deaths - including, sadly, Elizabeth's once she decided to get herself involved in that very lifestyle in the end. This really isn't even disputable at this point, it's just cold, hard facts.

[@mettinkaytaz6106]

I dont understand why Vince wouldn't have wanted Randy back (apart from the glaringly obvious rumuor*), even an old-er Randy Savage, with his flamboyance and star power etc was enough to draw Baby Boomer Cash, and that is something I dont believe Vince would've said No to. Now this isnt a stab at good ol' JR, but given his position its easy to think that the "eraser" was used a few times where Randy's name came up where JR is concerned, esp given JR's position as head of Talent relations at the time, I think we just learned why "Macho Man" Randy Savage wasn't bought back into the fold in this video right here

[@pugmalley]

I was sort of thinking the same thing. JR basically said it that he wasn't gonna bring him back but if Vince went and did it he wasn't gonna stand in the way. But what are the chances that Vince would have asked JR "have you heard anything from Randy?" JR would have said something like "I have not talked to him as of yet"

[@mettinkaytaz6106]

@@pugmalley I mean yeah, you have to look at things objectively and logically, and all the while we're led to believe Randy bedded a very young Stephanie Mcmahon 🤔

[@joshmallow5257]

I love macho man! My favorite wrestler of all time, wish I could have met him!

[@jonathansheehan3590]

Why didn't Conrad ask JR point blank why he thought Vince didn't hire Randy Savage back? None of the reasons JR said made sense as Vince as hired back guys who were worker backstage problems for the sake of doing business.

[@kazman_6899]

Better yet, why doesn't he ask Jim why Dutch said it was the talk of the dressing room that Savage bonked Stephanie!? When I heard that, I couldn't believe my ears. Jim, Bruce, etc. are all lying through their teeth.

[@ShadowAngel18606]

@@kazman_6899 Quite a few wrestlers think it happened and i wonder to this day why so many marks, but also wrestlers, have such a hard time accepting it. Marks go to all kinds of mental gymnastics to explain the blacklisting because they somehow can't accept it. It's funny. But literally everything points to it. The stories that Stephanie admired Savage and wanted to be like Elizabeth or even replace her so she can be with Savage are very well known. The fact that she was a massive slut (as told by Pat Patterson and others) back then. Combine that with the fact that according to Lenny after the divorce Randy "banged everything that was female and moved", i mean it's quite obvious.

[@vasili1207]

because he gave steph the D

[@curthennig9448]

@@kazman_6899 Stephanie really snapped into it?

[@DrHDoofenshmirtzphd]

There are a lot of guys who get to a certain level and all seem to think there is a conspiracy by the company to cut their legs out from under them. You see it from Macho Man, Hulk, Stone Cold, etc. I have a hard time believing that all these guys are wrong.

[@mettinkaytaz6106]

Well said 👌, given the nature of the Shark Tank environment you'd think there is some validity to what these guys are thinking

[@garyv2498]

Yeah, there's probably something too it. Company doesn't want a guy to become a bigger star than the company. They don't want to have to pay a guy what he would be worth. They don't want to deal with a guy having that much leverage over the company.

[@ImmortanDan]

Well, when you reach top guy status (and I don't mean just main event, I mean natural, over, recognized top-level) your priorities and the company's priorities no longer align. You want to build your brand and keep the top spot for as long as possible; the promotion's main goal though is to get the rest of the talent over using your fame, and making sure your fans stay even after you leave. Somebody like Stone Cold especially would have felt McMahon trying to anchor his success to the company because his last star on that level was Hogan - and Hogan was a dude who just left and initiated perhaps the hardest time in the company's history.

[@Director2024]

They aren’t. The mind of a businessman is everyone is replaceable.

[@spiritchild9101]

Some guys just aren’t ready to pass on the torch to the next generation.

[@doodguy]

Savage was probably one of the sweetest dudes outside of the ring back then. But at work, wrestling, the guy didn’t F around and say what you will he probably had to have the attitude he had, otherwise - mid card.

[@twk8520]

Randy and Steamboat were the prototypes for smaller wrestler being a Star. In the former land of giants. Without them i dont see this generation of workers ever getting a shot. Like them or not

[@marywise7661]

ross was NOT in the wwe very long when macho was there.and he rarely worked with him on commentary.so who cares if he didnt like him lol.macho man and elizabeth were awesome together and will always be wrestlings first couple

[@DevoJetBoy8680]

'Macho Man' Randy Savage was an alpha and is one of those who owns a permanent spot on pro wrestling's Mount Rushmore, like him or not. Randy didn't suffer fools lightly and owned every room he walked into. Wrestling needs more guys like Savage nowadays; larger-than-life, balls bigger than the average man's, and looked, acted and LIVED the part! A good portion of today's so-called talents being passed off as pro wrestling "stars" aren't fit to lace Randy's boots or even wash his car. That's just the truth!

[@tellumyort]

Wrestling needs more real men like Lou Thesz, not 80s coke heads. 😈

[@DevoJetBoy8680]

@@tellumyort Turn in your fan card, you ignoramus.

[@ucouco78]

Macho man was not an "alpha" way too insecure.

[@redrick8900]

Not even top 4 of the 80's. He's only famous becuase he's the most mockable wrestler in history.

[@redrick8900]

@@ucouco78 "Did you look at my wife?" "Did you look at my wife?" "Did any of you look at my wife?"

[@DreDaDon16]

When I saw how Elizabeth died I finally saw why Macho Man was so protective of her some peoole can't make good decisions for themselves

[@doddsino]

Savage exposed her to that. He didn't "protect her".

[@tronsnow4763]

Yea I don’t think he was locking her in a room bc of her partying too hard…

[@georgefreemon2935]

@@doddsinoHow’s that

[@_Brennus]

She probably did so many drugs because of the trauma of dating a nutcase.

[@thegoughandbordenfamily8234]

When you saw Vince shitting on women you start to understand it more.

[@basslife2248]

I think Jim Ross is overrated he’s good but not as good of commentator, as Jesse Ventura, or Bobby, the brain Heenan

[@warmbrainstv1522]

well there you go folks... apparently we can all thank good old JR for Macho not being in the WWE after WCW was bought.

[@MrVante247]

Smaaaart marrrrksss 🤣

[@ShadowAngel18606]

No, it really was because in late 1997 Vince McMahon blacklisted him from the WWE

[@cantgetright742]

He never would have went back. He left because they was putting him on announcing because of age when he wanted to go out and do his thing.

[@ShadowAngel18606]

@@cantgetright742 Vince actually wanted to bring him back as active wrestler in early 1997 when he learned that his WCW contract was running out. Within 6 months, McMahon's oppinion changed from "I want him" to "I never want to do any business with this person ever again" (and yes, according to multiple employees, he couldn't even say his name)

[@allencollins5666]

​@@ShadowAngel18606Vince Wanted To Bring Macho Back After He Proved Vince Wrong About Being Too Old To Continue Wrestle When WCW Were Dominating The WWE. Vince Regretted Doing Huckster And Nacho Man Skits. Savage Was Not Going Back. HOGAN Either.

[@OliveMule]

Randy Poffo is the greatest entertainer all time

[@curthennig9448]

Stephanie would agree!

[@thegoughandbordenfamily8234]

​​@@curthennig9448Vince hated Randy because Randy and Steph wouldn't let him watch. Vince wanted to call the action. "What a manueuver"!

[@curthennig9448]

@@thegoughandbordenfamily8234 Seems Vince and Johnny "Ace in the Hole" had all the manuevers.

[@tubster105]

It’s bout to be a swerve and he’s gonna say he loved him 😂 I stand corrected

[@jamesprez7296]

SAVAGE AUSTIN PROMO would've been EPIC.

[@mrmoviemanic1]

I love Macho Man, but the stories I hear about him sometimes make him truly come off like an over-paranoid person. Again I think it's important to know that your heroes can't always be perfect and that should go for everyone, even my personal favs in Triple H and Austin can have moments that make me think they were in the wrong.

[@fuzzluvver69]

No. Randy WAS paranoid, but regardless what anyone thinks about that, he definitely wasn't OVERLY paranoid, as he has subsequently been proved absolutely right to have been paranoid with all of the stories about backstage behaviour, behaviour in hotels and behind the scenes, drugs, over the top ribs, bullying etc. Randy was 100% right to be concerned, and it's really not even a disputable issue at this point.

[@Maxx-jl1ml]

Paranoia is just a heightened sense of reality. We live in a biosphere, living with cognitive dissonance doesn't make you immune to somebody breaking into your house or assaulting you randomly on the street. Paranoia is not always a bad thing.

[@runnersdialzero1244]

cocainum

[@Appalachianasshole41]

Vigilance is often viewed as paranoia when it is something else entirely

[@tafua_a]

On one hand yeah, on the other hand, when you come from a time period where your contemporaries are Hulk Hogan, Roddy Piper and Jim Duggan, it's kinda justified. "Just because I think everybody's out to get me, it doesn't mean they don't!"

[@jonahjameson272]

Jr is a punk, he got macho outta the WWE whispering in Vince's ear and then Vince got sick with himself, having been influenced by such a rat that he had him his his asss and JR You're FIREDDDD!!!

[@billybadass3056]

Randy was one of two ppl vinny mcdkbag never hired back... the other one was Luger.........

[@jd9119]

I bet Hunter ight now that Vince is out of the picture. Luger could make a good HOF speech talking about his path to Christ.

[@chrisvietro4360]

Sad case for both. Savage should have went in hall of fame ALIVE and lex MUST GO IN PERIOD

[@curthennig9448]

Jarrett was on the outs for a long time.

[@ianlock3313]

Love JR, Love Savage nobody has to pick a side here it's ok if some people didn't get along. Nobody is perfect I don't think any less of either these legends in the business.

[@RANDYandJHERI]

Best comment.

[@Lemont5236]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@fightsports66]

Well said.

[@OfficialJarradHewett]

Macho lost a lot of size, as per his TNA appearance, but man… what might have been, had Randy come back when WCW folded.

[@kellybrown7671]

Would it be possible to ever ask Jim about any of his opinions and/or experiences about the great Paul Boesch? Boesch was the voice of my childhood and I absolutely adore JR. Would love to hear what he has to say!

[@GillBoldberg]

“And I am… the cream.”

[@giovannisocci4807]

I never EVER liked J.R. never will,he came across as a butt kisser who d do anything to please the boss and the boss' favorite people,and who would destroy any one to be liked,never cared for his play by play commentary either.

[@WingsofHistory]

You guys could have brought him in during 2001-2002, he just worked a match the year before on thunder, he was able to work a match, he just worked a different style after his ‘98 injury.

[@MrVante247]

Smaaaart marrrrksss 🤣

[@GameTime-yj6qv]

And he looked amazing during that time.

[@Hester-l6k]

Savage a bully? Nah he just had a few loose screws, but not a bully. Now the Kliq on the other hand would torment people backstage and starts fights and then have talent fired for no reason. Savage was misunderstood.

[@Forever_Thatter]

I guess canoodling with Steph was considered "helping the company's bottom line" only for Triple H 🤣

[@tylerd1090]

I 💯 believe this is the reason why savage was never asked back. Vince is a business man. Smart one. He knows savage would have made money during some comeback. Makes zero sense. Has to be true.

[@thegoughandbordenfamily8234]

​​@@tylerd1090If this truth ever came out it'd be bad for business and marketing Savage. Meanwhile Vince is shitting and urinating on women. No biggie. Great businessman my ass.

[@travisbuzenhamilton190]

I just lost A LOT OF RESPECT FOR JR!!!!!!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@donjohn2695]

Randy savage a bully? Never heard anyone say that about him before

[@andrewft31]

Quite a few have said that lol and that he was insecure and paranoid… Andre hated him…

[@kylefisher6521]

That’s JR being salty about macho man

[@regulardadhere8832]

@@andrewft31Andre was a bitch. Didn’t like John Studd cuz he stepped over the top rope. Always hated other big men. He was a bully himself.

[@BigBadJerryRogers]

​@@andrewft31that's true, Macho Man used to bully Andre endlessly. He would cover himself in baby oil just to torment Andre in the ring

[@jd9119]

Randy and Lanny used to gang up on people in his daddy's promotion. I've heard of other people talking about this.

[@deleteduser121]

Look to forgive ultimate warrior for holding him up for 500 Grand in the early '90s and not forgiving the macho Man. I mean come on. It's obviously something very personal and very secretive. I think the rumors were probably true. What else could it be? I mean come on

[@slabbusterrtr7690]

Macho man was one of the greatest of all time..!! he had it all the look the in ring skills and mic skills ..he was actaully my fav

[@darkside7802]

Nah. Can’t agree with JR on this. I also couldn’t agree with him on Vince’s proven allegations. Then again, JR is getting old. It may be effecting his cognitive thinking.

[@BrionTV]

Coming from a guy who didn't like when the Roadwarriors no sold. I can see why Randy didn't like Jim. He's a pass the buck coward

[@123usaguy]

It's pretty well known JR played favorites. I'm calling out his Okie bullshit.

[@RColo74]

It’s very easy to talk about a man who can’t defend himself, who’s the bully now Jim?

[@danielberry4765]

How can you bully somebody who is dead ?.

[@MrVante247]

Smaaaart marrrrksss 😂

[@onewarriornation602]

That's Jim Ross for you, he waits until talent passes away then holes up in his house smoking dope like a junkie while trashing bigger legends than he will ever be.

[@johnliberty3647]

Wasn’t he asked about Macho Man? What was he supposed to do? Remain silent?

[@fuzzluvver69]

​@@onewarriornation602Yup, Jim has form for this. Wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.

[@AOIbis]

So you’re opinion didn’t sway you on him, yet you didn’t think you should have paid him what he was worth to not wrestle…..yet stone cold was on the roster for how long without wrestling under your watch? This video changed my opinion of JR.

[@g-man2507]

Successful promoters are not petty people with thin skins. They put the good of the company above potential interpersonal differences. You saw that with Vince McMahon when Ultimate Warrior held Wrestlemania hostage to negotiate a better payday.

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

Randy Savage was frugal and he made a lot of money. I think he didn't come back because he didn't have to. I think it's that simple. When he passed away, his estate was valued at over $20M.

[@danielhackleton8639]

Vince never forgot what randy did to the million dollar princess more like😂

[@inutero10]

Billion

[@AronHallan]

uuuhhhh yeeaahhh, i don't see another reason for why he didn't come back to wwe, the rumors must be true.

[@Director2024]

@@AronHallanI think if that was true, Vince would have not just let it slide. Randy still worked for Vince before he left. He wasn’t fired. When did Vince find out, after? Could Stef not file a complaint?

[@blake7871]

@@Director2024He found out after Savage left the WWF.

[@georgefreemon2935]

What did he do? Not familiar with this

[@JPFrancois75]

Loved JR in WCW and WWF, but in the last 4/5yrs, he’s became a bitter old man. He should practice what he preached, when bad things happened or they were fired.

[@chrisdowney6576]

Why does a name like stephanie Mcmahon not pop up in this conversation?????

[@danielberry4765]

Illicit internet rumours aren’t part of the show.

[@MrVante247]

Smaaaart marrrrksss 🤣🤣🤣

[@kazman_6899]

​@@danielberry4765Dutch confirmed it, big man.

[@danielberry4765]

@@kazman_6899 Like Meltzer confirmed Mabel was the third man. The two people who know for sure one isn’t talking and the other is dead.

[@kazman_6899]

@@danielberry4765 I think you fail to understand. Dutch -- who was there at the time (yes, that's right) -- has said that it was the talk of the dressing room. Everyone knew about it! That's a huge elephant in the room when it comes to these conversations. Don't ask about Steph. Ask about Dutch.

[@davidr.f6242]

How hypocritical both sounds, now that the macho man is dead. Be on the lookout for Lanny to come out to his brother's defense.

[@timcannon6669]

He has a right to hate anyone as we all do

[@jimmyjames6882]

I hate everybody equally and Jr has the same right.

[@dominicrigsby8547]

​@@jimmyjames6882sounds like a lonely existence

[@jimmyjames6882]

@@dominicrigsby8547 well i used a little bit of sarcasm but not much lol

[@Lemont5236]

He should get over it. The man has been dead for 12 years, and he didn’t have to deal with him from 94’ until he passed.

[@Rotiart89]

​​@@Lemont5236Get over what? He didn't like the guy, just because he is dead doesn't mean shit and it definitely doesn't make someone more likeable. Edit: I get it, he should like him more because he is worm food..I feel ya I like people more who i dislike when they are dead before me.

[@neilefc877]

With 83 Weeks Eric Bischoff, a much discredited figure, has managed to rehabilitate himself to the point that fans are questioning why an individual with such wisdom is not working in Florida or New York. Meanwhile, JR, a universally loved and respected figure is going scorched earth on our childhood memories! As Connie says, this truly is an interesting time in the business.

[@abark]

I could never stand this gasbag.

[@brutusb8004]

WHat? LOL. I dont think Ive seen a more off base comment ever. EB is a fucking loser. He had a hand in ruining wresting as we know it today. Nobody is questioning why he's not working. LOL. You can suck a dick for even thinking anything different. LOL. And JR isnt saying anything about Randy Savage that hasnt already been said a million times by a million different people.

[@Sleepwalkingok]

i think Eric Bischoff have a lot of knowledge of the business but he made some of the worse mistakes in wrestling in the story of this sport-entertainment. even Vic Venom have some good ideas, but the fact that we're in 2024 and not in '90 maybe is the andswer why they don't fit in the promotions now.

[@brutusb8004]

@@Sleepwalkingok Eric Bischoff had no knowledge of the business and that was his fucking problem. Dont take it from me, look at how he got that job and what he did before. Loser should have never been in the business in the first place.

[@UziBlancoOfficial]

Connie... does he wanna be cornette much 😂😂😂😂

[@StuUngar]

JR is a good broadcaster, but very egotistical. He seems to throw tantrums and get very passive aggressive when his ego is threatened in any way

[@AngloCelt88]

He showed Stephanie the cream of the crop.

[@avalond1193]

J.r. hating on savage calling him a bully yet he loves stone cold who is a wife beater, was a drama diva at times like refusing put over brock lesnar and walking away from wwe because he didnt get his way, but also pushed to get roddy piper fired from the podcast because piper did a comedy skit with a stone cold impersonator and stone cold got butt hurt

[@erickennedy3322]

Mancho Man is greatest sports entertainer in wresting history. He was good on the stick, knew how work a match, and great sports commenter. More than Steve Austin butt kisser Jim Ross. Mancho was a real wrestler talk , bad he worried about getting buried. Vince was mad that Mancho took Slim Jim deal. With him too WCW. And, Vince never forgave him for that.

[@brendanroberts1310]

I thought it was the Stephanie scandal, alleged obviously.

[@waynejeffery6995]

Who the hell is Mancho Man.

[@coryhermiller5912]

So far im hearing of jr vs savage jr seem more like a bully and a jerk and many interviews of savage he seem like all around good dude and anybody who think he mistreated miss elizabeth not at all elizabeth changed personalities over the years she screwed him over and she ran with the wrong sort of people and got into drugs sorry but the truth is out there its a very sad and tragic thing but anyway randy been through alot but still was a all around good dude until his unfourtunate untimely passing RIP savage jr should be ashamed of himself

[@h0ckeyd]

Lanny told a story in the UK of Randy sucker punching Bill Dundee and said, next to Hulk Hogan that he could definitely be like JR says here.

[@phillytnoize]

Dutch Mantel told a similar story of Savage threatening to "beat the shit" out of him for no reason whatsoever.

[@h0ckeyd]

Yeah, Lanny's words were "he had an explosive personality, either he loved you to death or hated you intensely...there was no middle way", Hogan replied "boy, don't I know that"@@phillytnoize

[@JamesSmith-vl7yq]

Randy Savage worked very hard

[@imfreviews]

I always love when JR says comments like "if a guy helps your bottom line, you keep him." WHY DONT YOU TELL YOUR CURRENT BOSS THAT?????????????

[@Fuzzie_Dunlop968]

Gotta milk the udders of the money mark.

[@mygoodlord2960]

Im absolutely gutted that I tarted to listen to JRs podcasts. He comes across as such a sad, bitter man.

[@AngelusNielson]

Imagine that JR is and was a professional. Not surprised in the latest.

[@FlixCreEightR]

So sick of seeing these podcasts. And this conrad roach, is always overtaking the conversation.

[@JUYAN16]

Yeah, Randy was a great talent but calling him insecure is an understatement. Just the shit he put Ms. Elizabeth through, you knew Randy was not right in the head. And the insane amount of drugs he did only made him worse I bet.

[@markl5998]

I feel like his drug use was exaggerated

[@marywise7661]

he did NOT put elizabeth through anything.the way he use to trweat her was all SCRIPTED .he never treated her like that in real life.i think you believe all the fake crap hogan has said

[@marywise7661]

it was@@markl5998

[@lanebales903]

@@marywise7661it’s easier to believe the line whenever hogan opens his mouth it’s a lie

[@hardluckharris]

I'm one of the few people who couldn't stand Jim Ross

[@TheFailedmessiah]

Jr smokes?

[@scottigertiger6430]

House must stink

[@zlinedavid]

JR has been a fan of the devil's lettuce for quite awhile.