Jim Ross shoots on Ric Flair taking independent bookings after his retirement match

[@thomasmoore8096]

I like how Conrad keeps it professional even though Ric Flair is his father in law

[@80srevival]

He was booked to appear in my local town.. it absolutely blew my mind.. it’s a tiny nothing town in the middle of South Yorkshire.. I couldn’t get my head around it..

[@ThePaulcarter35]

I remember this - ric flair coming to the doncaster dome - it was insane

[@80srevival]

CARTER Inc. I wish I was referring to donny dome... that would’ve made more sense... it was a community hall in wath upon dearne!

[@ThePaulcarter35]

@@80srevival wow - the nature boy was headed to Wath?! Now that i didn't know - that would have been amazing - and totally insane at the same time!

[@S1873]

Did he appear at the show?

[@80srevival]

Scott no, I think he signed with TNA around the same time, so it never materialised

[@PatricksCrazyPlace]

To me, Sunday Night Heat was at its best when it was basically the preshow to the PPV. It helped add a little extra hype to the show. Other than that...yeah, it was mostly skip-able.

[@mikek4331]

I remember enjoying a lot of stuff on Heat. Stevie Richards stands out as one of the most consistent guys. Raven, Aaron Idol(Damien Sandow), and Val Venis were also good.

[@huffy6192]

Well, he was the self-proclaimed GM of Sunday Night Stevie lol

[@outcast512]

Listening at work. Thank you JR.

[@spiderphil]

500000 to sit at home and be an ambassador

[@1981CrueHead]

Woooooo

[@marmcd2003]

All going to his 4 ex wives.

[@ThirteenOhEight]

When has Ric been known to just sit at home?

[@nathanhill4245]

@@ThirteenOhEight that’s why it caused problems. Vince was paying him to sit at home, Ric wanted/needed more money, sparking everything he did after Mania 24 away from WWE.

[@Millwall77]

Maybe Vince knew that Flair always needs money so he gave him thdd green light. God knows how many millions Flair has pissed away.

[@VelvetMetrolink]

Apparently his shoes cost more than my house.

[@patkob2180]

Yeah Ric Flair is what happens when you base your life on an image...its superficial and doesnt end well most of the time

[@aaronossont39]

@@patkob2180 that sums it up pretty well.

[@matthewdavis6403]

@MAGICK MIKE prenups only protect assets acquired before marriage, which would usually include the money, but where you get screwed is having to pay for the lifestyle said woman got accustomed to while married to you (flair) but yeah definitely should have stopped getting married wooooooo 🍻

[@davidderifield3820]

Flair snorted his money away.

[@McMachal]

lmao the ad break mid sentence, of the last thing JR says

[@MrBxberto]

Does the uploader have the ability to decide where the ad break(s) happens?

[@Bjrmadethis]

I could listen to JR all day

[@Dakatari]

Ric still had bills to pay based on living way above his means plus his multiple divorces just let the man makes some money

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

Fck Ric Flair!

[@Matt-cr4vv]

I would've liked him to let flair make it too but he was also paying him $500K a year to work for him so wasn't like Vince was trying to make him destitute.

[@Faithvational7210]

Much respect JR., I I have followed your career since college football commentating, UWF wrestling days. Kudos to you.

[@deadaccount7520]

I'll disagree with Jr a little. There were occasions that Sunday night heat helped me convince the old man to get that nights ppv. Back in my broke college days. Which I kind of assumed was the real value of the show.

[@Gridloc-22]

Are you talking when "Heat" was on MTV?

[@zachhawkins5005]

I remember Austin stunning everyone on Heat. Good days.

[@JoJo-ie8sl]

save your money, kids

[@marmcd2003]

Don't get in 4 divorces.

[@Liverpool5095]

@@marmcd2003 Haha yeah that too.

[@StuUngar]

Like Jesse Ventura has always said, “How are wrestlers independent contractors?”

[@fjccommish]

If Jesse wants to pay them better, give them benefits, then he can start his own promotion.

[@imverygerby]

fjvideo exactly or if they want certain thing get them put in your contract

[@StuUngar]

fjvideo That literally has nothing to do with his point. Legally speaking, it’s on the employer to prove their paid people are independent contractors. If you look at the IRS rules governing independent contractors, WWE wrestlers are clearly employees. Now get back to work before Vince, Stephanie, or Hunter catch you on KZbin.

[@imverygerby]

StuUngar they are independent they have a contract that says they can only work for wwe while under said contract

[@StuUngar]

Gorilla Glue Expert If they can only work for WWE, theyre not independent. Am independent contractor is like a plumber. He can take jobs from anyone he wants. The individual with the contract also cannot tell the plumber how to perform his job, or when he is to do it. Out of courtesy, most will work when you want them to. But the only thing the contract does is promise that the plumber will complete the work he’s been tasked to do. The WWE tells the wrestler when to perform, how they will perform, theyre not allowed to wrestle for another organization, even their social media is controlled. In no way are they “independent.”

[@markomealley285]

Yes Australia 🇦🇺 is a untapped market, for sure . Us Aussies love our Wrestling

[@willt3223]

Too bad there is so many restrictions there right now.

[@shavmyrac6817]

@@willt3223 don’t believe everything you read mate

[@andrewperez4058]

Dont really believe if this is true if aussies really loved their wrestling I'm pretty sure by now it would have been a tapped market

[@andrewmathieson8579]

@@willt3223 there is no state restrictions in Australia - that is old news - since a lot of people are triple vaccinated.

[@KingKoffin]

Australia is a dystopia. "Kneel before government, take your pills, inject your meds"

[@Makainternational]

Rick Flair should...save with Conrad

[@ElderDoge]

speaking of wwe heat, i remember wwe velocity too

[@JoeKerrAnomaly]

And shotgun and jakked.

[@nubreed4627]

That burger looks amazing

[@sinnizster5038]

it took 2 minutes 42 seconds to ask that question?

[@ricflairslastdoobie7605]

He's laying the groundwork for anyone not in the know or refreshing the memory of dedicated fans. Nothing wrong with that.

[@carlfike1147]

Always love your voice energy & ability to amp up the matches Jr luv u buddy...

[@carlfike1147]

Who remembers the semi truck match with Dustin? I was 14 or 15 yrs old so almost 25 yrs ago now that was a cool & funky match would luv to hear what jr thinks about it?

[@MortonT1958]

Yeah, great innovative match but ultimately it got Dusty, Dustin and Barry Darsow fired.

[@Gridloc-22]

Funny, I thought Jr was interviewing Jr 😆 they sound so much alike

[@cgasucks]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks like this.

[@justinobuscape7031]

It sounds more like a younger J.R. interviewing an older J.R. ( and yes, I also thought for a while that J.R. was on the "Something to Wrestle about " podcast with the ultimate company/ yes man, Bruce Prichard.).

[@Claudipaws]

Any one on here thinking this is... is retarded ..... and doesnt know a thing about wrestling

[@Gridloc-22]

@@Claudipaws what are you talking about?

[@diontenelson1116]

Ric was in surprisingly. Great shape for his retirement

[@jeffreyb6165]

As if Conrad doesn't already know the details seeing that Ric is his father-in-law. Just sayin'😇

[@melbias5046]

@ShadowAngel now hes trying to get into the pockets of the people that hear the pod casts I wouldn't trust him with a dollar of my money it will cost me 70 cents on the dollar if I ever dealt with fat boy

[@juanchohitdalotto]

@@rageangerman1432 definitely

[@jeffreyb6165]

@Brendan Walters So since when is Megan not Ric Flairs daughter?😮

[@jeffreyb6165]

@Brendan Walters seriously they split already?

[@mj-7444]

I love you JR I don’t watch wrestling anymore im not a fan of the new era but i sure love too listen to you spit knowledge and I’m grateful for that.

[@poeticjusticemacias9594]

Only56 comments on a Jim Ross show about Ric Fucking Flair with is going out there guys hit that like button. J.R. I'm 37 in Corpus Christi Texas. I love your voice wrestling bin the 90z with your commentary are my love in my childhood. Thanks to you J.R. glad I can still enjoy you

[@S1873]

Flair looks jacked in this thumbnail, he aged terribly in the last decade.

[@RealArtfulDodger]

Ric was headed into some bad times at this stage. He also had been reprimanded for his drinking too much while representing WWE with corporate partners. He then pawned the NWA belt with Highspots for $35k which Triple H ended up paying. Of course we know about the events that followed. Recently Ric did an interview about working for TNA and admitted he really needed money at that point.

[@MiMenteOnLine]

So, What events followed? 🤔

[@Redhotshawntexas]

Your username 😂😂

[@hitfan2000]

But Conrad says in this video that Ric was still getting paid $500K per year even though he was retired. Ric should have tried to tighten his spending habits and just enjoy being an ambassador to the WWE.

[@jessiesmith3735]

What episode is this from ?

[@ericnolan269]

On Sunday night heat mr. perfect perfect Plex the big show I thought that was pretty impressive

[@therafter7494]

talent are considered by wwe as "independent contractors" to avoid giving any benefits them, but are contracted to wwe from working anywhere...so hows that work?

[@darylchase2450]

Patrick Kent exclusive independent contractors. I mean these guys are signing the contracts

[@dr.roberts4508]

A good post

[@sonicheroxd5767]

"Whether you like it or not, Mr. Sports Entertainment, you sre still in the WRESTLING business." Well said, Jim.

[@MRCATTDADDY]

Dude put a ribeye steak on the pan. Lol. Like hearing JRs thoughts. Best announcer there ever will be.

[@TheWarmupLap]

Wrong title?

[@edwardclement102]

As Ric said NWA made him the star he was in the sport. He was the only man to hold the letter belts NWA and WWF. And he wrestled in front of the largest crowds ever in wrestling in Korea.

[@RemmySkye]

"Giving credibility to a hall of fame other than his own" my god. The WWE Hall of fame is one of the worst black eyes in the American wrestling business. It kills itself with its own "credibility". Drew Carey? Pete Rose? Pro wrestling Hall of fame? Don't try to tell me it's some bizarre amalgamation of wrestling and entertainment and live television because first of all that's make believe BS in the fantasy world that is Vince McMahons destroyed decomposing mind (and Kevin dunn) second of all his contention is said here to be ric flair giving a different Hall of fame credibility. And while there's definitely plenty of shit you can give the NWA at least they're not saying it's a bizarro Hall of fame and inducting mama june or the tiger guy right after ric flair.

[@scottsteinersmathteacher6188]

I respect the hell out of Flair but I don't think he looks at it as disrespectful I honestly thinks he just loves the wrestling business so damn much he can't stay out of the ring

[@williambrightman5980]

Money,Money,Money was why Ric was doing Indy shows. Spent more than he made and owed his shirt to the IRS.

[@jessejames9149]

Didn't the rock and mankind have a match on Sunday night heat??? Anyone!

[@kevinpayton2664]

Yeah. It was on Halftime Heat(halftime of that year's Super Bowl). Mankind won the WWF championship using a forklift to pin the Rock.

[@michelledavidson8190]

Come on down to Australia JR

[@XiKrazyK]

Sunday night heat will always be infamous for acolytes and public enemy, televised beating 😆 for me

[@hollywoodgarry6801]

not gonna talk about his TNA run huh?

[@huffy6192]

Ric Flair doesn't even like talking about it....

[@marty7357]

Jim talking About its up to the wrestlers to perform.. As life long wrestling fan let me put that in terms.. Your character your gimmick your ability to use the mic and in ring ability hasnt changed to fans.. The reason wrestling seems dull these days cause nobody has it like they once did..

[@radricdavis803]

8 months later and wrestling is now the most exciting it’s been in over 20 years 🙏

[@kevinpayton2664]

I thought that Heat was a good show. Even the big names appeared on the show on occasion like the Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin, especially if there was a ppv that night.

[@GabrielismV3]

Ric Flair is The Man. Its so sad seeing him wrestle now. He has nothing else to prove..😢

[@SnowWhiteTheU2]

Let's shoot on Debra's WWE career

[@johnlewis4275]

As long as I can get my mitts on some Woo Wings, take my money.

[@melbias5046]

Jr's ego got the best of him.

[@angelito1358]

How?

[@melbias5046]

@@angelito1358 doesn't know when to leave well enough alone.

[@kevinwright6159]

That steak looks sooo good!

[@nightowl8363]

I get it, but Vince knew DAMN well they were no threat to him or the WWE.....

[@MachoWrestling101]

Let’s face the facts people. Ric flair was the man in the NWA but the wwe has overblown what he means to wrestling due to a certain someone in creative getting booking power. HHH and Stephanie were married in 03 so their like ONE and you don’t think H’s influence hasn’t rubbed off in steph? Then you got JIM Ross who called all of flakes greatest moments pretty much and it’s a perfect storm for them to sel him as the greatest ever even though it’s highly debatable. The WWE gave Ric flair the greatest send off in history and he milked it for everything it’s worth. He’ll Ric flair cried just by saying he’s friends with edge in his hall of fame ceremony. Read that again. He’s a super emotional dude, probably too emotional, I’m not a psychiatrist but he said he lost a lot of self confidence around 95-01 and you completely can see it. HHH built it back up by giving him ten off air ceremonies (come on you really think Vince planned all of those? Vince had Ric flair for one year and both sides wanted to leave right away and while He held two wwf titles he lost and won one both on forgettable shows, he didn’t make the summerslam card in wembley and the wwf thought it best to put Sid against hogan rather then flair (probably for the best as savage would of got a better match out of flair then hogan would of) Is it any coincidence that flairs to be the man book came out in 04, they started doing endless amount of evolution segments in 03 and 04 about how flair was the man and the only man and the only legend...it’s so heavily contrived they have flair in the opening montage and not savage or hogan. That’s ridiculous. Savage and hogan broke their backs to make the wwf while flair was chopping away in the NWA. I get it he was terrific but they made like a four day ceremony for this guy and the wwe released books DVD sets put him in the ball fame twice, 7 years before savage was ONCE. Sorry but who built the wwf? Even Heyman came out online in 08 and said “enough is enough” come mondays good he ceremony considering it was done fourth day in a row of flair crying and for what? Because he’d never wrestle in a wwe ring again? Because he has some great wwe history? No he had great pro wrestling history and he decided to still continue being a pro wrestler so all those years and goodbye I love you was for absolutely nothing. Quit defending the defenceless. Scott Steiner once joked that HHH would build Ric flair would get his own statue one day and low and behold it finally happened. Now they’re doing the same thing with his daughter and even during a pandemic and with health problems in his 70s Ric flair is back with a new wwe contract? Why? Jesus Christ

[@edwardclement102]

JR needs to go to NWA someday pro wrestling.

[@tobiaswilliamson00]

I hate the whole Ric Flair retirement angle from 2008. The match at WMXXIV and the tribute he got on Raw was all pointless as he went on to wrestle in TNA.

[@mattd687]

Ric Flair was such a fool with his money. He basically had a lifetime contract for $500k a year with WWE. All he had to do is show up on tv a few times a year. He walked away from that to go on the road collecting $5k-$10k at independent shows. It's a lot of money, but it would take a while for him to make up that $500k. Even the deal that Conrad talks about; a potential $300k a year for 30 dates, that's still $200k less than he would have gotten to be an "ambassador" for the WWE and he probably would have worked less than 30 dates a year with WWE.

[@iwilrage]

The wrestler...but with money...but hardships remain

[@jamief1263]

Not a flair fan, some of his matches were good, but he did stupid things, like the flair floor. I hated the Woooo, as well. I listen to some people and Flair was not a good person. He wasted all his money, exposed himself to women when he was in his 50’s, kept some other guys down and he was racist. Prefer Arn Anderson.

[@cellgames808]

I only remember The Public Enemy getting their asses kicked by the Acolytes.

[@ryanbroughton5174]

Ron Simmons and Bradshaw absolutely kicked the shit out of The Public Enemy. I believe it was over them not selling or wanting to do the job if I remember correctly. It's been some years obviously.

[@mringram]

Conrad love Meltzer

[@angelito1358]

Mane that loser is a mark at heart

[@gnvtwhp1218]

Wwe stands for World Whatthehell Entertainment. Vince told me. He doesn't do wrestling.

[@skipklauber1162]

Everyone knows you can’t trust Flair, but everybody DOES know that. Plus he’s always needed $$

[@coachmikesfilmroom3111]

Screw em. They tried to force him into retirement from wrestling. Least his true final match was with who it should have been with...Sting

[@MachoWrestling101]

Dude you don’t understand wrestling is a work. What they did as five Ric flair in his fifties the great send off ever and he was in the wwf for 14 months and he’s still praised as the greatest ever they put him in the hall of game twice and give him contract even in his 70s among dvds statues everything else

[@paulgerczak4332]

Ric Flair apparently owed Vince McMahon a lot of money

[@Fujitsu2000]

Yh 800,000 and paid him back after his pay off from wrestlemania 24

[@rustyloudermilk4010]

FLAIR IS BROKE, WAS GREAT WRESTLER, SORRY PERSON

[@charliebowen5071]

He retired from mainstream spotlight.... guy still likes to wrestle... none of no one’s business

[@diontenelson1116]

They did nothing to make it special. From mtv too TNN and spike TVs

[@jordanweaver9631]

this podcast is just JR dumping on WWE .... i guess when your lips are attached to Tony Kahns ass, you do what you're told.

[@imverygerby]

I see why road dog hates JR he just follows whoever signs his checks

[@ToxicAvengerCleanYourMind]

Flair has to be the most overrated wrestler. His matches are really difficult to watch after you've seen just one of them.

[@diontenelson1116]

Mike adamly. Was horrible

[@thedude5600]

Ric Flair had mounted up massive debts to Vince, and other talent so couldn’t legitimately retire from Pro Wrestling.

[@GolfPV1]

... STUPID COMMENT JR... IF I AM PAYING YOU 1/2 MILLION A YEAR... YOU ARE NOT WORKING FOR ANYONE ELSE.... PERIOD