Jim Ross shoots on heat between Ric Flair & Mick Foley

For over forty years Jim Ross has been the Voice of Wrestling. From starting as referee in the regional territories to becoming the Executive Vice President for WWE, nobody has a story quite like Jim Ross. From recruiting and hiring some of the biggest superstars in the industry to providing the soundtrack for the most important moments in wrestling history, “Good Ole JR” was there for it all. Join us every Thursday morning as Conrad Thompson grills JR like you’ve never heard before, uncut and uncensored!

[@fl_7997]

Flair had a legitimate view from a traditional wrestling standpoint but let face it, Foley developed his gimmick and carved out his own path with several characters that he could pull out of a hat. Foley earned his spot by entertaining the fans. Who could forget the rock and sock connection? He could do the comedy stuff, yet step back to draw some real heat (and cut very good promos) leading up to the big PPV events where were all guaranteed to see foleys latest ‘stunt’ live before our eyes. Foley never shorted the fans in this area. And isn’t this what it is all about?

[@jimodirakallumkal5351]

Exactly. Never shorted the fans but prob shorted his life and time w his family.

[@youngche8226]

Love this twice if I could

[@ramrodbldm9876]

@@youngche8226 🤡

[@DeadmanInc336]

I think I get why Ric Flair has (or had) such a resentment towards Mick Foley. Think about it: Mick is still with his wife of 30 years, he has a wonderful relationship with his kids, he is a great human being who does A'LOT of charity and humanitarian work, never really engaged in the partying/drinking/drug aspect of the business, and he isn't just respected by everyone but also BELOVED by everyone. And more importantly, Mick knew when it was time to finally go away. I think Ric is envious of Mick because Mick has everything Ric wishes he had.

[@EDifyer881]

back in wcw Scott Steiner called or in this case owned Ric Flair out on being jealous of others

[@grammysworld5449]

Or maybe Ric just gave his opinion.. Ric probably had the same opinion in the 90s when they were both in WCW.. Kids planting false narratives

[@justsomeoldyoutuber6093]

Only a smark has an anime photo. How can you be taken seriously man

[@DeadmanInc336]

@@justsomeoldyoutuber6093 meh....not the worst thing somebody has told me. 🤷 I mean, if you really want to get under my skin you can call me a Republican. 😏

[@DeadmanInc336]

@@grammysworld5449 dumbest excuse ever to validate that carny piece of shit. 😂😂😂

[@CraigSmithII]

Foley vs.Flair was one of the best underrated feuds in 2006. Hell their I Quit match at SummerSlam that year was good

[@stonecoldku4161]

It was a good match I just wish it had a different finish. The way the match finished was that Mick quit because Melina asked him to and it looked like Flair might hit her, so Mick stopped the match. That would've been a fine finish, if only Mick hadn't written in his first book, that was the original ending to his "I Quit" match against The Rock years earlier. Only it was going to be his wife that came out and begged Mick to stop. As soon as Melina came out I knew what was going to happen, because I had read Mick's book.

[@stonecoldku4161]

@Tony Black New York Times Best Seller.

[@stonecoldku4161]

@Tony Black One of the books he wrote for kids. Yeah.

[@bennywatts4174]

Flair should have been the heel and Foley the babyface

[@CraigSmithII]

@@bennywatts4174 True but they would've been cheering for Flair still

[@LastResort1331]

if you look at it realistically every wrestler in the professional realm is a glorified stuntman, it's how they sell it that determines whether they climb to Greatness or not.

[@alexpalik2594]

Mick foley is the best. In my eyes he did anything and everything to let the fans know he loved them.

[@alexloyola4695]

50% of Conrad's workload is reminding his co-hosts what the hell they're talking about. And, Conrad, you do damn fine job. Thanks for ALL of the content, you damn workhorse.

[@Daniel-zp2pi]

Ric Flair: "We bled, sweat, and wrestled our way to greatness. You [Mick Foley] fall of a cage, your great? That's bulls***!" As great an in-ring performer as Flair is, it really isn't his place to criticize other wrestlers like Foley, just because their more unconventional and death-defying style of wrestling was more appealing to mainstream audiences.

[@DehumanizingSounds]

Both are great. Wished they worked together more, especially in the early 90’s.

[@johngist3761]

"I just wanted to get a ride out of him." "Well you did! Here he is." 🤣

[@d_ruggs]

'they were walking towards each other like 2 old gun fighters.. i like deadwood.. what were we talking about?' lol. Gadda love JR

[@wmrphotography7349]

I love how people are shocked that there is beef between some wrestlers, they are human and not everyone is going to get along. Personalities clash, different beliefs and different attitudes. Flair should definitely learn when to speak and when to keep his opinion to himself, although that has never been his thing. It sucks because a lot of people like both of them and the are both legendary.

[@noicemate9111]

Who is shocked 😂

[@AnArcanespiritOfficial]

Flair was definitely in the wrong.

[@RoanElvis]

I fucking love JR's grandpa tangents

[@horrorfan4-life689]

I'm always Team Foley

[@Ijustinsultedyou]

You never had the makings of a varsity athlete

[@petershury7135]

🌵Cactus 🌵 🌵Jack 🌵

[@RKO1988]

@@Ijustinsultedyou did Ric Flair?

[@Ijustinsultedyou]

@@RKO1988 Football, wrestling, and track in high school. Recruited to the University of Minnesota to play football. Does that answer your question? A little bit of research would’ve saved you the embarrassment

[@710moose8]

The guy with absolute no talent??? Good choice LOL

[@jaythor70]

It was the difference between 2 different generations of the business. Flair was old-school wrestling, Foley was new-school sports-entertainment.

[@jaythor70]

@Voice of Reason well, it certainly wasn't old-school wrestling.

[@Paradiselost316]

I remember Flair calling Foley a glorified stuntman. Sure Flair was one of the greatest of all time but Foley could do stuff that Flair couldn’t. And he got great pops for it. Plus Foley was equally good on the mic and very likeable, so maybe Flair was jealous.

[@jaythor70]

It wasn't jealousy. It was not getting that the business was turning from wrestling to sports entertainment. People's taste was changing, and Foley only got over because of the stupid things he did to his body.

[@Paradiselost316]

@@jaythor70 yeah I’m guessing Flair was a traditionalist, old school type, bit like Cornette. Foley made the point that his selling point was that he could take more pain than most and that made him marketable, especially around the attitude era

[@dee_lulu]

@@jaythor70 ah so Flair's constant blading during matches to get color is above Mick's "extreme" type of wrestling.

[@jaythor70]

@@dee_lulu yep. If you don't know the difference, you don't know wrestling. And it certainly wasn't constant.

[@robinhoodhustsle1356]

Foley was nowhere near flairs level on the mic

[@keithbecknell6994]

That burger is making me hungry.

[@michaelpaiva9924]

Deadwood was a great show! Loved it and the Deadwood movie they made in 2019 was really good as well. Good ole' J.R. knows good shows and movies👍

[@SRPC21]

It’s very surprising how Foley was such a loyal “Attitude era” legend who was somewhat forgotten about and shafted by the wwe.

[@hellscuntcrusher9012]

Foley was never shafted by WWE. He gets to appear whenever he wants / he pretty much has a lifetime contract

[@dantecarroll2435]

What are you talking about he was never forgotten about

[@Doomerz666]

He was literally gm of raw for a year 5 years ago

[@Squeakypickles619]

Foley should have beat flair at summerslam 06

[@dantelane2020]

We dont need hard-core matches anymore ,destroy that

[@RammaCriCkeT]

Flair for all the good he's done for the business, he's equally a punchline. He's a legend from his glory days and not much since the 80s and early 90s....very early 90s. I can't tell you my favorite Flair match. I don't have one. I can name a ton of Mick Foley matches that I really loved, and they aren't all Hell in the Cells. As an in-ring talent, Flair was pretty lackluster. Going Woo, Flair Flops, and Chops. That sums up every Ric Flair match for 40 years... Mick cut better promos by a mile (although Ric had some great ones), Mick was a immensely more versatile performer in the ring and on the mic, had much more memorable angles, and some of the most memorable matches in the history of wrestling. Flair also most likely wrote that in his book because Foley talked about how terrible of a booker Flair was in WCW. It was sour grapes. Forget that calling Mick Foley a glorified stuntman and not a wrestler is nothing short of ironic. Wrestlers are stuntmen.

[@ricflairslastdoobie7605]

Your comment is so wrong that it hurts. You're comparing one of the greatest wrestlers of all time to a guy that's only famous for comedy and falling off a cage. Get a grip

[@Loked420]

@@ricflairslastdoobie7605 ric flair had the same boring match for his entire career. He's a joke on the mic as well. I've recently been revisiting a lot of early 90s stuff, and flair does not hold up at all. He's never been in shape, had a repertoire of about 6 moves, and had the cringiest promos of all time.

[@jasonh5547]

@@Loked420 You do realize that Flair was already past his prime in the early 1990s? Flair's prime was late 1970s to mid 1980s.

[@Rodshark75]

Foley gave it his all in the ring and paid for it to secure a good home life for himself and his family. Flair basically punched a clock and blew his fortune on silliness and debauchery and now he is paying for it.

[@eddymunster3938]

I feel ya Do what ya want with your EARNED MONEY But beware It comes back Karma or not It's what ya DO

[@SLURM187]

Not to mention he was a terrible family man and complete douchebag. And now he’s a miserable old bastard, and Mick Foley is financially stable with his family’s love.

[@edge1247]

@@SLURM187 That's what he gets for calling Teddy Long the N Word

[@tonshaad1230]

@@edge1247 that we don't really know happened. That's all hear say.

[@jasonh5547]

Flair was NWA Champion who had a herculean task of traveling the territories defending the title. Flair's out of the ring actions does not take away from his astronomical responsibility as NWA champion when he was in his prime.

[@dustind2487]

I love jr. So honest and entertaining

[@Dakatari]

Ric was obvious jealous of Foley in ring ability as he found a way to get over without having to go broke living a lifestyle that Flair wasn't able to manage

[@drexlspivey5828]

@@Hester_Productions "You know, Mick Foley was a complete idiot" - Dan Spivey And he's right, if you have to get physically injured to get over then you're not that great

[@crews-lj3ph]

@@Hester_Productions stfu goofy

[@hmdwgf]

@@Hester_Productions God almighty. Either you have a deep personal grudge against Foley for some reason or you’re one of the biggest, most ignorant transphobic a**holes I’ve ever seen in my life (Foley’s wife isn’t a transsexual for the record).

[@skippythealien9627]

@@Hester_Productions you sound like a complete imbecile

[@Rello2k11]

My favvvvvvv commentators JR and King

[@tazmissionplex]

Mick Foley will go down as my #1 he had amazing characters he was a good worker he loved the business and it showed in his work and no one every really had a bad word to say about him can we really say the same about ric 🤔🤔🤔

[@ReBoRnXGolden]

I had no idea Conrad was from Huntsville!

[@bassclay100]

flair said on a dvd i took a shot at foley cause he heard? foley blamed flairs booking? funny flair heard yet y didnt ric confront scott steiner after scott droped that pipebomb on him

[@bassclay100]

@@joeldavis8851 yea go after someone u think u can beat flair= pussy!!!!!

[@sonnycrockett9900]

Cus Steiner is a freak of nature and it would've only been pain.

[@PhillipCummingsUSA]

This was a reupload.

[@AWrestlingHistorian]

Going to eat a steak now.

[@BigHonchoNick]

Then pop a bluechew

[@EDifyer881]

just make sure you use some of jr's bbq sauce lol

[@llamaman431]

JR. : Where's the cornbread bah gawd?!?!

[@grudeman]

Rick Foley and Mick flair

[@chrisxavier3147]

I was on Mick’s side for this one

[@stevenladnyk4526]

I agree. The guy sacrificed his body even more so than others just for us fans because he knew that’s what we wanted to see. Not saying anything bad about Flair at all, but that was straight up disrespect.

[@cleftturnip7774]

@@stevenladnyk4526 i like Mick.but he was more stunt man than wrestler

[@gabewoodson5706]

Mick gave up his body and personal well being for this sport and for doc flair to just write that off is disgusting

[@shawnbender7923]

Who would be against mick?

[@jimmyfaustjr6413]

Me too

[@1986beasty]

I just watched the 92 Royal Rumble. Flair did the Flair flop 3 times in that match. First time it got a pop. For some reason he did it 2 more times and it looked ridiculous. Flair is the last person who should criticize anyone. He became cookie cutter with his matches in the 90's. His best days were with Steamboat by far. He gets too much credit for his in ring work in the mid to late 90's.

[@vermontmike9800]

Ric tears others down, that’s his thing.

[@dantecarroll2435]

He’s a bitter insecure and jealous perverted old man

[@savagecatgt]

Insecurity. Narcissism. Lack of love. I don't think RIC had a good upbringing.

[@jaywilson4520]

Flair came into WWE at the time under the protection and endorsement of HHH, HBK, and the McMahons, and proceeded to issue receipts to everyone who he felt ever slighted him or pissed him off. He did so in that book, in interviews - basically to whoever would listen.

[@228allday]

Flair was there way before all of them even in stepped in the squared circle

[@DavidMccallister65]

News Flash to Ric: ALL wrestlers are "Glorified Stuntmen" 🤦‍♂️

[@badazzbaja]

It's because Foley is a good person. Flair is only for flair.

[@artifactunknown7508]

The host of the podcast is Ric Flair's son-in-law...

[@Jeffsthename]

As god as my witness, he is broken in half!

[@bclr6843]

When they say cowboy who are they referencing?

[@DDWES]

I’m sorry JR but that musical chairs segment was funny as hell. I loved the character personally.

[@jcrobinson37]

Omg. Jim Ross goes off topic and rambles on. Stay on topic BROTHER!

[@xSuperiorManx]

Doesn't work for him, brother.

[@MannyIsBallin]

JR is a boomer, what you expect?

[@ccmyharley]

Ric Ric Ric you forgot about the people on your way out because people rememberd you 💯 % stepping on others in the Wrestling business for side money 💰, regardless Ric never sell out ! I'm on Mick's side......

[@joem7922]

From what I’ve read elsewhere, Flair has said they have since spoken and cleared the air and now get on well

[@BrianHenson95]

They seemed to get along at the 2k14 event

[@countof3everybodyOD]

Let the guys be themselves...but Flair should’ve given the same deference to Mick that he was afforded

[@TheShadowBrigade]

Let's also not forget him bitching about talents complaining about their payoffs then within the very next breath complaining about his royalty check.

[@jesterr7133]

I think JR missed the point of the comment though. If all of the main event guys are off, then guys who are normally midcarders would be in the main event, therefore increasing their payout. The midcard guys would benefit from the stars not being there.

[@duncanmorrison7603]

I always felt flair in wcw held alto of names back

[@ShortArmStrongArm]

wood wad alrighty, wood wad alrighty. Sit dog ass sly christmas, cheese croaking tin calf.

[@thebandit7623]

Foley feuded with The Rock and made Rock main event. Along with HHH in their 2 brutal match. The last person Foley made was Orton and come to think of it Orton became World Champion a few months later. In WCW Foley wasn't considered Main Event but in WWE he was Main Event. Been Champion in WCW was joke there were many moments with in storylines and title changes that didn't make sense which devalue it's worth. In WWE been the champion mattered more.

[@jasonh5547]

Obviously, you must not know much about the NWA World title history and the astronomical responsibility attributed to being NWA Champion.

[@travelreview5962]

I believe, i am almost sure, Wade said the guys lower on the card like it when the big guys don't show up to small house shows because they earn more money.... and they earn that money because they have an opportunity to often be bumped up on the card. Si the big guys don't show and the guys below them bump to the top and then others bump up to fill the spots of them.. etc, etc.

[@yeezynapkins2970]

has ric flair ever taken a single chair shot? that's probably why he hates mick foley, he doesn't want to have to work like everyone else in the business

[@ricosalvaje5802]

I think Ric had some hardcore matches later on in his career.

[@ByrneMJames]

Man flair was the NWA champ and had to work as a heel all over the world. In places where wrestlers routinely had to fight their way to and from the ring, routinely got stabbed and even got murdered. He was the heel that went to the bars to steal the girls. Where all the fans hated him. Other heels wouldn't go near a bar because of the fights. His style of wrestling was different but so was his lifestyle. They were like well paid carnival workers

[@trademarktraining]

Flair was in more legit danger on one Puerto Rico Tour than Mick was his entire career. I do think Flair was wrong, but I think your point is a bit shortsighted.

[@yeezynapkins2970]

@@trademarktraining i was a little hyperbolic, i don't mean that he's never done anything ever, but around the time that mick was taking big bumps in wwf, flair was pretty much done with the heavy stuff. which is fine, but to go after him for doing the crazy stunts is petty. wrestling is about stories, mick told a good story. he wasn't just doing a newjack

[@RG-lr4pk]

How many chair shots did Benoit take?

[@evanhayes5891]

When was this recorded? Talking about crowd numbers during COVID-19 seems pretty anachronistic.

[@TheRealDebussyFarts]

Evan Hayes GFY.

[@crisdes7260]

flair, a guy who lived off the same few spots for decades, and sliced himself at the drop of a hat...whose '60 minute broadways' were 45 minutes of headlocks and armbars...degrading another worker....the human ego is an amazing thing

[@humblesmith1215]

You say all that But let’s be real, Flair is regarded as one of the greatest workers in the HISTORY of Wrestling, so you can try and simplify how basic Flair was but it won’t really get over!

[@vongola11thboss67]

@@humblesmith1215 doesn't matter if it gets over. It's his opinion and there are more people who have it. Ric Flair is glorified but he still has his detractors.

[@XxNoDDzxX]

totally agree. Flair was and is very over rated. Very ancient style.

[@crews-lj3ph]

@@humblesmith1215 yeah greatest overrated of all time

[@tonshaad1230]

@@XxNoDDzxX So.... Is Bret Hart NOT overrated by this same metric?

[@simonclarke8098]

Ian McShane is a phenomenal actor. I highly recommend LoveJoy.

[@JRRTOKIN420]

A big shout out to JR who divulged some info as to how wrestlers were paid when regarding...house shows or pay per views. Sorry mates, Had a bit of the wobbly juice. Can't focus too hard on proper comprehension

[@leslyvee8691]

Wow that’s so sad.

[@trevordavis5053]

Glorified stuntman? Isn't that what a professional wrestler is supposed to be? Foley earned his glory as far as I'm concerned. I've never been a Flair fan. You could hear his spit when he did his promos. I respect him as a legend in the business, I just never really understood his popularity.

[@michaelallanrubin2376]

No they are athletes

[@ivyanderson7]

@@michaelallanrubin2376 Athletic actors that do their own stunts. It's theatre-in-the-round. Portraying a character to suspend the audience's disbelief. And if we go by that metric, Foley > Flair. And I LOVE Flair. But that visceral feeling of "I know this is predetermined,, but something about that guy is REAL" was Foley's bread and butter. Being a great athlete will make you a good hand, but having the overarching storytelling ability to blur the line between fact and fiction is what makes someone a star. Nearly every second of Foley's in ring work made perfect sense in the context of his characters, and the fact that Flair disregards that entirely makes his comments just come off as sour grapes.

[@michaelallanrubin2376]

@@ivyanderson7 no they're not acting you're a liar

[@jasonh5547]

Did you watch Flair in his prime in the late1970s to mid 1980s? The problem with Flair comparisons is that a lot of newer WWE fans only remember or have watched Flair videos when he was already way past his prime. Flair earned his glory being NWA World Champion at a time when he had to travel the world defending the title from territory to territory.

[@s.mas.w]

Always liked Foley, all the way back to 89 in Continental. But he’s wrong here. He slandered Wayne Farris in his book, alleging that Honky Tonk ended Jake Roberts career with a guitar shot. It was totally false, so snaggletooth homeless guy needed to get off his high horse

[@BrianHenson95]

I didnt know foley said that but I heard that in so many mini docs about jake

[@andyt6363]

Well Jake’s said dozens of times that led to his downfall so…

[@jonburgett6243]

JR is being the consument professional in his rewind of that fight. I was there, Ric Flair threw a left hook Joe Frazier would have been proud of, & Foley was falling backwards asleep at the wheel, so to speak. Flair held a boxing type stance as Foley laid on his back staring into the ceiling. Ric Flair was a tough son of a gun & Foley found out the hard way. And we're talking about a guy in Mankind who could of taken a punch from Tyson & kept coming, if that's an indication of how hard Flair's left hand was that night!

[@johneaston918]

Scott Steiner said a lot worse about Ric why didn't Flair confront Big Poppa Pump then?

[@marka.graffakasnakebitenat3736]

@@johneaston918 Big Poppa Pump would have murdered Naitch.

[@dtester]

Nicely written comment! ...but I'm pretty sure it's BS ^_^

[@asoncalledvoonch2210]

Question: When is that piece of 🍖going to be finished cooking?????

[@thewhiskeyrebellion5886]

Old JR making excuses for his friends.

[@ZOMBIE_STOMP]

At least foley didn't have the same match for 80 fucking years. 16x champ because they didn't have anyone else who could draw

[@johneaston918]

"Wow that's incredible I can't believe it you lost the world title 16 times" RVD

[@marka.graffakasnakebitenat3736]

Nick Dinsmore was funny. However, he could pull a Mick Foley and maybe do one or two different characters. Plus after listening to him Nick would be one hell of a play by play caller at the announce table. Better than what the WWE has now. Pair Nick with either JBL, Jesse the Body Ventura, or Jerry the King Lawler. It would fly.

[@DeadmanInc336]

It's absolutely mind blowing to me how talented Disnmore is. Such a shame that he was limited by that fucking gimmick.

[@sroyal2469]

I don’t know who’s who ,it seems Jr and Conrad are one,or maybe brothers

[@ceocartel2120]

I love the HBO TV show Deadwood 😍

[@ricosalvaje5802]

Great show, it sucked that it ended so early. I think they put it out at a bad time with The Sopranos.

[@evanabbott2737]

Me too😁👍

[@AshuriAurora]

I v don't know about his other books, but with"Have A Nice Day", Foley was constantly on the phone w/legal being told that something you can't say that, and he would say, oh no, they won't say anything. But with Flair's book, yeah, the people he talks about say something because more people like Foley.

[@monsterfreek82]

Deadwood is still my favorite go to show

[@healingchurchpotluck5352]

Flair, you sad old mummy. You should have retired back when you were legend.

[@LeeRoggy]

Dinsmore married a Mrs. South Dakota, not a Miss JR . . .

[@williamerazo3921]

Wow. That’s little. They should unionize like Broadway.

[@needsaride15126]

Of course "Good 'Ol JR' is going to have the kneepads on for "his boy" Ric Flair. Flair, who had the same match for forty years. Mick Foley was right.

[@jasonh5547]

And Foley did not have the same match?

[@needsaride15126]

@@jasonh5547 Absolutely not. He carved out his own niche and created a form of wrestling carried on today. Read fl_799 's comment below. Mick Foley had Cactus Jack, Mankind, Dude Love (The three faces of Foley) and Mick Foley. Mick could do a comedy promo, a heat promo a crazy man photo and a dangerous man promo. Ole Anderson said when he was booking the territories. He had to ship slick ric elsewhere because he did the same exact match. in every town the same exact way. For years. Loved or hated(mostly hated). Ole Anderson was one of the most successful bookers and wrestlers in wrestling. Not only that. Ole was an original member of the four horseman. Ole anderson would know ric flair better than most. Flair was a one trick pony

[@TheH10ne]

Flair was extremely stupid to say something like that especially when Mick is beloved by all wwe fans

[@shawnbrown2726]

I heard JR refer to Conrad on another podcast as the son in law to Ric Flair , Who is Conrad married to?

[@marka.graffakasnakebitenat3736]

Charlotte's younger sister.

[@eddymunster3938]

No more kid gloves Drop the bomb.. revised or new book..

[@NicholasTryon]

Dead wood is amazing

[@ksturdevant10]

Sorry but bare bones flair was right! What's mick remembered for "flying of hell in a cell" other hand we have 16 time world champ that some have labelled best in the business in his time

[@kylelindell6707]

Exactly tho entertaining he was more of a glorified stunt man where flair was a true champion

[@edge803]

Rick flair time wae in the 80s and he wad old and wrinkled up body and still wrestling .Foley might not have been the best wrestler but he was part of the attitude era and involved in some memorable moments

[@jasonh5547]

Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair are considered the two biggest stars in the business long term since 1980ish. Neither had their start in the Attitude Era ever. Wrestling fans were watching big moments long before the advent of the Attitude Era.

[@Rerpesentz]

Eugene got over playing like he had special needs and not even vince fucking mcmahon thought that was going to be the case

[@BarlosTevez]

This is well old! Eddie guererro talk etc 13 years plus

[@obersveyourmind]

Mick is successful but I understand why Ric never respected him as a wrestler. Mick got over by doing stunts and Ric by having psychology and working in a traditional way...which is in my mind much more difficult. I mean just take a look at what Mick has been saying lately on Social Media. It's ridiculous. " All women show ". Praising some garbage matches in AEW. Marking for Punk and contradicting Roman ( the biggest name in the business) when he said that Punk wasn't a real draw like Cena or Rock...which it's true btw. He wasn't drawing like those big names. The more I hear of Mick and the more I am convinced that he still doesn't get the business. And this is coming from a wrestling fan so imagine what a legend of the business might think of? Before everyone go hot...It's just a presumption 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@justakidtryingtomakeitgrin4417]

Punk was beating rock and cena in merchandise 😂😂 Roman reign has champion most or even worst then diesel

[@droiddad]

Foley was right. Foley is god.

[@snakeshadows6993]

Here's the thing about Ric Flair calling Mick Foley a glorified stuntman: Wrestlers in general can be categorized as stunt workers. They themselves take on the role of both actor and stunt performer. Even Ric himself was receiving back body drops when he was in his late fifties. In a way, I could see where he was coming from by saying there's more to being a great performer than by falling off a ladder. But Mick was a great performer. He may have not had the same skill as Chris Jericho or Kurt Angle, but to say he wasn't a great worker just isn't true. As for Mick Foleys comments about stepping down so that younger wrestlers can make there mark, I agree in a way. The younger generation should most definitely have their time to shine. But that doesn't mean that the older generation has to throw in the towel. As long as they're still capable of performing, an older wrestler can still mix it up with younger talent. AJ Styles is 44 years old, but he's still out there pulling off high flying maneuvers.

[@herbythechef7624]

44 is not bad think about HBK and taker having prime careers in their 40s. Flair on the other hand had matches in his 60s-70s. Shoulda hung it up over a decade becore. His retirement match in 2006 with HBK shoulda been flairs last

[@snakeshadows6993]

@@herbythechef7624 44 is still 6 years away from 50. Around that time, most wrestlers are for sure contemplating retiring. Some retire even younger than that. Wrestling is a sport that can take its toll on your body. The reality is that the older you get, the less your body tolerates it. Again, I definitely support the idea of older wrestlers mixing it up with younger wrestlers as long as they're still capable of doing so. I wouldn't expect most wrestlers to retire as soon as they hit their 40s. But most are definitely planning on it by then.

[@southeastarmory3079]

To be fair, foley kinda was a glorified stunt man. What else can you call the stuff he did while knowing it was a work?

[@andyt6363]

Same you can say about anyone that is professional wrestler. All a work.

[@joninwm]

I dont know that Flair should have called Foley out like that, but I will say this, on TV matches and PPV matches Foley went all out without disregard to his body; however, at house shows that were not huge arenas Foley did none of the craziness and was actually pretty boring to watch. At one match I attended, when the crowd realized the match was over and Foley was heading to the locker room without really doing much more than rest holds and few other holds and punches they actually started booing because of the lack of any real highspots. It wasn't much better the 2 other times i saw Foley at house shows either.

[@fishhookism]

If mick would have done the same matches at the house shows that he did for ppv he would be paralyzed now.

[@joninwm]

@@fishhookism Yes I realize that, but if he was a better wrestler his entire career wouldn't be based on crazy risks and funny promos, not on Wrestling ability. I completely understand why Flair who was one of the best wrestlers in history, called Foley a stuntman.

[@cleftturnip7774]

Those kind of crowds don't care about wrestling. You can't do high spots all the time because it means nothing after a while

[@PtolemyJones]

So Flair has his 'sunny days' moment, but he gets a pass? Bull.

[@Chickenfinga123]

Foley and Flair never had a proper rivalry, it’s a shame.

[@UziBlancoOfficial]

Welcome to fucking DEADWOOD!!!!

[@sonnycrockett9900]

Love Rick's work but it's wrestling. Who cares if mick was a glorified stuntman, his work is irreplaceable. Rick is an all-time great but mick should've punched his lights out. If Undertaker threw Flair off the cage he wouldn't have survived. Im a bigger Flair fan than a mick fan but I live in reality.

[@darnellpistachio2991]

He cant ve that good if you dont know how to spell his name. Mick > Ric.

[@BrianHenson95]

Its also two different types of wrestling. You need many styles to have an entertaining card and appeal to many viewers

[@peshyhardaway2493]

That explains why there doing a draft

[@bengosling4606]

Pro Wrestling on Tv is a Production, a story, Fantasy entertainment with made up feuds... It's fully understood and expected the audience know that... A Autobiography on the other fan is the telling of one's life it's supposed to be non fiction, it's supposed to be real events and facts and legends told by and of a real person not a made up fabricated lie so to speak... Vince and Wwe shouldn't have any real input or say what goes into someones official biography Ric, Mick, Shawn, Bret etc should have the right to tell their story their way and if that includes some less then flattering commentary on fellow colleagues then so be it. As a fan for the past 30+ years I for one want to read and hear everything about wrestling all the stories, wild events etc it's part of being a fan. If I want a choreographed, scripted made up story I'll watch it on tv. So if Ric has something to say about Mick then let it be, their grown men either they except different view points or they settle it like men in a shoot fight.

[@sithvsjedi9696]

Foley & The Nature Boy bitching lol. In the UK we would call it handbag stuff. JR saying not wanting a broken hip lol quality. 🤘

[@wheeloftime2908]

Never liked JR Meat obsessed

[@stevencreech983]

I cant stand to listen to JR. He goes off topic too much.

[@brianthomas3451]

Flair was right about foley

[@IdealX-fr4eg]

Who cares about what foley thinks! Write your book and let flair write his stop the nonsense

[@bclr6843]

Can’t all wrestlers be chalked up to glorified stunt men?

[@williamcarswell3012]

Neither is wrong they each have their own beliefs and thats ok

[@midwestmonster9886]

I always found that _glorified stuntman_ to be more entertaining than Ric Flair.

[@bennywatts4174]

Cause you never saw prime flair

[@SLURM187]

@@bennywatts4174 No, we have. Mick is a class act and a legend. Flair is an arrogant prick who is miserable because he’s old.

[@jasonh5547]

@@bennywatts4174 That is the problem with a lot of these Flair comparisons with fans who have only watched modern WWE. They probably think even early 1990s WWE Flair was him in his prime.

[@swk4017]

Ric flair and bret hart define wrestling. Foley encouraged the stupidity of "hardcore" fighting. Breaking lights, using barbed wire, steel chairs, death matches. This isn't wrestling it's garbage. Would you see Ricky steamboat using a barbed wire 2x4 on randy savage at wm3? No because they knew how to do wrestling. The ones who go out there night after night using weapons and doing stupid dangerous stuff just so people will talk about them and maybe a big player will notice them. It's just attention seekers "oh look.at me I'm the idiot I jumped of a balcony onto 4 other idiots in front of 17 people in a gym please attention to me I crave it"