Jim Starlin's Great and Not-So-Great Cosmic Creations at Marvel - Comic Tropes (Episode 65)

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7 жыл бұрын

Jim Starlin is the topic today. The creator or co-creator of characters like Thanos, Drax the Destroyer, Gamora and many more. I take a deep dive into his work and tropes by analyzing Infinity Crusade #1.
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@southerncomicgeek1626
@southerncomicgeek1626 4 жыл бұрын
I met Jim Starlin and funny enough I mentioned that about Captain Marvel being one of the rare cases where Marvel Characters stayed dead. He said, "I write them with the intentions of them staying that way"
@ryancarroll2886
@ryancarroll2886 4 жыл бұрын
Was this before 1990 because he sure hasn't kept that true with Thanos and Warlock.
@philpatterson7085
@philpatterson7085 2 жыл бұрын
I only hope that Mar-Vell gets a proper send off in the film universe instead of a Grandma Vell as the Supremor.
@haroldpinkman2595
@haroldpinkman2595 2 жыл бұрын
They missed a huge opportunity with Alpha Flight to have them see a glowing maple leaf in the sky because Canada is their religion.
@skynyrdjesus
@skynyrdjesus 4 жыл бұрын
How did people miss that Thing is Jewish? He's literally a golem.
@ebutube
@ebutube 4 жыл бұрын
Uncircumcised.
@skynyrdjesus
@skynyrdjesus 4 жыл бұрын
@@ebutube How would one circumcise the Thing? Interesting food for thought
@ebutube
@ebutube 4 жыл бұрын
@Skynyrd Jesus Ultimate Foreskin Nullifier
@jackiethompson7446
@jackiethompson7446 4 жыл бұрын
@@skynyrdjesus ...a chisel and the mohle is a sculptor
@skynyrdjesus
@skynyrdjesus 4 жыл бұрын
@@jackiethompson7446 It seems like a decent plan, you just have to get Thing to hold still. And hope the mohle has a big enough mouth if they're doing that shit traditionally
@loudogg3367
@loudogg3367 5 жыл бұрын
You know, all of the Mavel Satans should team up.
@spinchsprimkle6541
@spinchsprimkle6541 5 жыл бұрын
Except that one guy. He's not really Satan, he's just sort of Satan-ish.
@PyromaniacDelta
@PyromaniacDelta 5 жыл бұрын
He's the diet Coke of Satan. Just one calorie, not Satan enough.
@magusxxx
@magusxxx 4 жыл бұрын
I can't remember if it was an issue of Defenders or not...I think it was Hellcat who was talking with Satan who told her he's the actual big bad of the universe. All the others, including Mephisto are just his puppets. He just doesn't let all the ultimate-evil-wannabes to realize this.
@WhyTheHorseface
@WhyTheHorseface 3 жыл бұрын
Yay! I’m Team Satan!
@melgranger6450
@melgranger6450 3 жыл бұрын
@@spinchsprimkle6541 They did, Magik v2 the one with Amanda Sefton.
@johnmavroudis2054
@johnmavroudis2054 2 жыл бұрын
Jim Starlin is one of my all-time favorites. His best work was clearly his work on Warlock and Captain Marvel... culminating in the Avenger Annual / Marvel Two-In One expanded editions... and the Death Of Captain Marvel. Absolutely beautiful writing and artwork that were a major influence on not only my reading... but my art career, as well. His later Infinity War / Infinity Gauntlet was amazing to start... but they quickly lost me with the constant barrage of crossovers. I hope he is judged for his earlier work where he could build worlds / characters and make you think about things that most comic books wouldn't go near... your existence on this rock we call Earth.
@zeitheist5017
@zeitheist5017 2 жыл бұрын
Your Sleepwalker vignette literally had me laughing out loud. Looking forward to the hot-air balloon phase of her plan.
@gaminawulfsdottir3253
@gaminawulfsdottir3253 5 жыл бұрын
33:14 I fell out laughing at the "very unfortunate page layout."
@Oheao
@Oheao 2 жыл бұрын
God damn, I laughed my ass off at the thought of Vision coming up with his hypothesis and then just immediately having Beast and Johnny Storm challenge it and then instead of Vision questioning his hypothesis he goes "oh Beast you're just not religious enough" and "Reed was probably just abducted by someone else".
@ARCWuLF
@ARCWuLF 6 жыл бұрын
Does anyone remember the Thanoscopter? The bright yellow helicopter with "Thanos" emblazoned on the side that Thanos pilots while on Earth? Classic Starlin. Oh, wait...
@ComicTropes
@ComicTropes 6 жыл бұрын
I have a review of Spidey Super Stories that includes the ThanosCopter.
@ARCWuLF
@ARCWuLF 6 жыл бұрын
Watched the review. I think we need to petition Marvel to bring back the ThanosCopter. ThanosCopter vs. The Spidermobile.
@gonk4509
@gonk4509 5 жыл бұрын
*thanos car*
@Opieboi
@Opieboi 5 жыл бұрын
Iam Notarobot lol
@Ayham4002
@Ayham4002 4 жыл бұрын
according to some websites, the blade that thanos uses in Endgame is based off the Thanoscopter sooooo… I guess the Thanoscopter was in Endgame kinda
@mormongirlie100
@mormongirlie100 7 жыл бұрын
Your videos are real quality, I appreciate all of the effort you put into them and how much I've learned about comics from watching.
@ComicTropes
@ComicTropes 7 жыл бұрын
Overactive Imagination Thank you for the kind words.
@dougg1075
@dougg1075 4 жыл бұрын
Man I still have all his Warlock stuff. Genius. His art reminded me of the art on pinball machines:)
@beecee2205
@beecee2205 4 жыл бұрын
my 3 fave characters in 50 years of reading Marvel have always been Captain Marvel, Warlock and Thanos. thanks Jim
@georgemasonsghost4062
@georgemasonsghost4062 4 жыл бұрын
His run on Captain Marvel is what got me hooked on his art and writing when I was a kid. His revival of Warlock was icing on the cake. He's been my favorite for decades.
@danielebowman
@danielebowman 6 жыл бұрын
Also for Ben Grimm. Jewish people can also have Christian or Muslim uncles and aunts etc. People change their religious beliefs but that doesn't alter their families ones.
@allendrake6960
@allendrake6960 4 жыл бұрын
Right, but the Goddess's recruitment seemed to be contingent on the individual's religious beliefs, not their family's.
@masonthomas236
@masonthomas236 5 жыл бұрын
why didn't she abduct nightcrawler?
@moyza_
@moyza_ 3 жыл бұрын
I came here with the intention of expressing a similar sentiment. Maybe he was at church so she couldn't find him idk
@sergioruiz733
@sergioruiz733 5 жыл бұрын
Starlin really was the guy that got me into Marvel comics, my brother had some of his 70s run of Adam Warlock and his big event comics and honestly the contrasting between Adam Warlock's existentialism to Thanos' nihilism in regards to his greater themes of Cosmic Existentialism was great to reread after reading existentialist authors and philosophers like Sarte, Kierkegaard, Dostoyevsky and Camus (even though he never considered himself an existentialist) and see the arrogance, introspectional monologues and angst of his characters in regards to the events in his comics. I have alot of respect for him despite some of his tropes.
@freeRKelly885
@freeRKelly885 Жыл бұрын
That sounds interesting, is there any of there specific work that you recommend? I have thought about reading "The Stranger" by Albert Camus, but never got around to it.
@sergioruiz733
@sergioruiz733 Жыл бұрын
@@freeRKelly885 It depends on what area of existentialism you are looking into? Or do you just want novel recommendations?
@freeRKelly885
@freeRKelly885 Жыл бұрын
@@sergioruiz733 You know, I'm not really sure. I guess it is something you sort of have to discover for yourself. I suppose what interested me was that these could be related to comics, so maybe cosmic existentialism? Novel recommendations would probably be good, but don't worry about it too much, I'm probably not really that serious about it. Thanks
@sergioruiz733
@sergioruiz733 Жыл бұрын
@@freeRKelly885 Well Cosmic Existentialism is more just a term coined for Starlin's works. The closest would be Cosmicism which is directly correlated to H.P. Lovecraft which deals with insignificance, particularity for humans in the face of the cosmic void. I mean the OG Galactus Trilogy from the Lee/Kirby era is pretty Lovecraftian in respects to Cosmicism. Anything by Lovecraft is up there, though its pretty dismal in all of the stories. Im general though the existential angst of Warlock and Thanos under Starlin kinda remind me of a couple of Dostoyevsky characters called Alyosha and Ivan Karamazov from the book "The Brothers Karamazov." So if you want a novel you could start with that, its a very long read though.
@mercurywoodrose
@mercurywoodrose 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for lavishing so much attention on our great silver age artists. really some of the most talented to ever appear. they could draw a picture, AND tell a story with a series of pictures, better than most before and after. adams, kirby, starlin, colan, rogers, byrne, kane, perez, wrightson (come on give it up for him everyone), even workhorses like john buscema (NOT SAL), jon romita, ross andru, told great stories a panel at a time.
@teacherdude
@teacherdude 5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact - Magus (μάγος) means warlock/wizard in Greek
@Atalanta1313
@Atalanta1313 2 жыл бұрын
The Ebony blade had been made by Merlin and Black did travel back in time in the 1970s to fight in the crusades. Storm spent her early childhood living in Egypt.
@vielned
@vielned 6 жыл бұрын
....by far the best of the Thano's miniseries was the prelude to Infinity Guantlet, Thano's Quest (which actually is pretty much the plot of the MCU's Infinity War with the exception of the snap).
@ComicTropes
@ComicTropes 6 жыл бұрын
vielned I agree.
@Lewcifer0
@Lewcifer0 5 жыл бұрын
vielned I mean, the only thing Thanos Quest has in common with Infinity War is Thanos getting the gems. Literally everything else about the plot is completely different.
@ComicsGranPa
@ComicsGranPa 5 жыл бұрын
Great,great,great story..loved it..read it just some months ago for the first time..enjoyed it the same if not more than infinity gauntlet
@clashnytech
@clashnytech 4 жыл бұрын
I still reread that book.
@vikinggnome9307
@vikinggnome9307 5 жыл бұрын
HOW the heck is Dr Stange fooled ? He is probably solicited by deities, gods and tricksters on a weekly basis
@VonWenk
@VonWenk 4 жыл бұрын
Dr. Strange probably called on gods and deities on a daily basis, and at one point I believe he was drafted into a conflict among as the price for calling on him constantly.
@AceLM92
@AceLM92 5 жыл бұрын
You joked about her recruiting The Punisher, but did you forget that he's Catholic as well
@AquaFan1998
@AquaFan1998 3 жыл бұрын
Hes catholic? Realy?
@AceLM92
@AceLM92 3 жыл бұрын
@@AquaFan1998 yep. He tried becoming a priest before he became a soldier
@TupocalypseShakur
@TupocalypseShakur 3 жыл бұрын
@@AquaFan1998 Venom and Daredevil are also Catholic
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 жыл бұрын
@@TupocalypseShakur Was it established it was a catholic church Brock met his suit?
@AceLM92
@AceLM92 Жыл бұрын
@@DIEGhostfish pretty sure Brock wore a Catholic priest's outfit when he tried killing Spidey in the bell tower in his first arc
@johnminehan1148
@johnminehan1148 4 жыл бұрын
At the time, David Michaeline was writing Spider-Man and depicted him as having won his first microscope at a Parish raffle. Aunt May's maiden name was "Reilly." Not that odd . . . .
@KTF0
@KTF0 6 жыл бұрын
I used to like his Afro Magus character design from the 70s. You could tell he was a student of Ditko.
@jamalwashington7831
@jamalwashington7831 5 жыл бұрын
Starlin autographed all of my Infinity War issues back in 2013.
@williamkennedy7846
@williamkennedy7846 5 жыл бұрын
LOL I read "Stalin"
@violagreene4643
@violagreene4643 5 жыл бұрын
Sersi's vision is a Moebius strip. A symbol of eternity.
@quantumgigavsigmaraven1745
@quantumgigavsigmaraven1745 4 жыл бұрын
Out of all the comics channels blowing up its so good to see your gonna hit 100k ,really truly ENJOY your vids brother thank you
@koufax3739
@koufax3739 4 жыл бұрын
I love marvels 80's cosmic marvel with silver surfer, adam warlock both philosophical space dudes. I also liked exploring the marvels alien planets, leads to great stories like pip the dwarf slave planet surfer issue. The collector, the inbatweener, sick stuff.
@DaremoTen
@DaremoTen 5 жыл бұрын
Silhouette was a great part of the New Warriors before later non-Nicieza writers blew it all to hell, and her and her brother's tale and relation to Night Thrasher's story were part of one of the best written comic book arcs in living memory. Those first 50 issues were a masterpiece, weaving stand alone arcs and an overreaching myth arc with character pieces and trope subversion rarely equaled in comics today. If you haven't read them I highly recommend that you do. Do not denigrate the contributions of Silhouette and other C-list heroes if you don't know.
@Aaron-zt5ee
@Aaron-zt5ee Жыл бұрын
Silhouette and the OG New Warriors team have been some of my favorite characters since I was a kid.
@Rometiklan
@Rometiklan 7 жыл бұрын
Huge, huge fan of Starlin's art. As a kid, I could never get into that whole cosmic theme with Adam Warlock, The Watcher, Inhumans, Captain Marvel, etc. But I loved the art. The fact that I even read the cosmic stuff was because of Starlin and his art. In my mind, Starlin was one of the last of a dying breed.
@agumiiwhoa
@agumiiwhoa 5 жыл бұрын
*but he isn't the artist*
@RichPaulPrimero
@RichPaulPrimero 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think you mean the always fantastic George Perez? Ron Lim is ok, too, but I always liked Perez's layouts better.
@melmartinez7002
@melmartinez7002 5 жыл бұрын
Josef Stalin - Starlin was the artist on most of his early runs with Captain Marvel and Warlock. He was fantastic. Had a very distinctive anatomy style, great detail in epic splash pages and some classic layout tropes. For example he would often start issues with two or three pages of micro- panels used to provide backstory exposition to get new readers caught up in his grand story arcs. This was an age when folks couldn’t just look up previous issues on-line and comic book stores were rare and if you missed previous issues you were usually out of luck. So this was a vital service to the reader. His art work on Strange Tales 178 - 181 was awesome.
@Chorse4941
@Chorse4941 2 жыл бұрын
@@agumiiwhoa Jim's not the artist in this one, but I think the OP is talking about his solo series where he often penciled himself.
@thedangershow6777
@thedangershow6777 7 жыл бұрын
Jim Starlin makes kick ass space stories! Infinity Gauntlet was a cosmic trip involving the entitre Marvel comics universe! Not too mention his bizzare Batman comics! Batman the cult! Sorry you had to spend too much money on a holographic comic.
@gorami
@gorami 5 жыл бұрын
I love this channel, you're the cool history teacher I never had,, I'm happy that you've lived a full life indulged in comic books,, I'd love to live in a time where physical comic book releases were an event,, keep up the good work friend !!
@manicpixiefangirl4189
@manicpixiefangirl4189 4 жыл бұрын
The Black Knight looks up... “Who turned on the grail-shaped beacon!?”
@d.aardent9382
@d.aardent9382 4 жыл бұрын
I thought he just liked drinking booze. Forsooth Dionysus the Great Party hound beckons!
@crystalalumina
@crystalalumina 3 жыл бұрын
"It's the Drunk-Signal! Let's go to the pub, quickly!"
@s.craigzahler8670
@s.craigzahler8670 3 жыл бұрын
I adore Jim Starlin's work. Probably the only writer/artist at Marvel/DC whose work I enjoy as much as Jack Kirby and Frank Miller. Not as influential an artist as those two titans, but I feel the most consistent writer of the three---I've read a ton of his comics and enjoyed everything. Dreadstar, Warlock, Thanos Quest, Cosmic Odyssey, and Batman: Ten Nights of the Beast are some of my favorites of his...
@Agamemnon2
@Agamemnon2 5 жыл бұрын
16:35 - "Satannish" always makes me think of a low-fat Satan. Not quite the whole demon, just a little bit ... satannish.
@arctodus1
@arctodus1 5 жыл бұрын
Zero Calorie Satan
@Jesse__H
@Jesse__H 4 жыл бұрын
oh man ... the selection of framed panels on your wall is killing me 😂😂😂😂
@Reddotzebra
@Reddotzebra 2 жыл бұрын
His death counts SO much, that in order to keep him alive you have to literally get rid of Mistress Death.
@davidmaurer3229
@davidmaurer3229 4 жыл бұрын
So, anyone else remember when Adam Warlock encountered a bunch of clowns that were stand-ins for Marvel editors and writers?
@user-ny5ey7bs9e
@user-ny5ey7bs9e 6 ай бұрын
Yes strange tales #181 remember the garbage with diamonds in it ?
@mikepretty7768
@mikepretty7768 5 жыл бұрын
That's the worst part of some of these big events, characters being out of character. This happens to Spider-man alot, I remember him in an Avengers comic in the 90's where he became a reserver Avenger and said something like it was totally Awesome dude.
@Zero8880
@Zero8880 6 жыл бұрын
In regards to the Infinity Watch. At the time, The Living Tribunal had overruled against the combined usage of the Infinity Gems to turn someone into a omnipotent being. So even if someone had defeated all the members of the Infinity Watch, they would not be able to obtain godhood as Thanos did. Also, the Reality Gem was not among the Infinity Watch. Adam Warlock gave that to someone who was not part of the Infinity Watch, but I won't spoil who it was, even though I think spoilers would expire after almost 30 years lol.
@jasonbean5981
@jasonbean5981 6 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what led to the comics collapse of the 90's. Too many tie-ins, too many shoe string characters, not enough character development. I had a subscription service at the local comic book shop. I showed up once a month to get my stack. It was awful. I never got all the issues I wanted. Tie ins I hadn't requested weren't there. Issues I really wanted were stripped away and sold to other people who came in more often. I got fed up and quit collecting. Besides, I was at over 5k in long boxes. I was running out of room!:)
@tirlio
@tirlio 5 жыл бұрын
What is a shoe string character?
@devalphamon7289
@devalphamon7289 5 жыл бұрын
@ I mean wolverine is an xman so it makes sense that he be in their stories
5 жыл бұрын
metal greymon it didn’t make sense to have wolverine in the avengers
@hyperion3145
@hyperion3145 5 жыл бұрын
Just Saying I would say the character that embodies shoe-string tie ins would have to be Carnage during the ‘90s. He was front in center of every comic, every video game cartridge, every advertisement before and after Maximum Carnage even if all he did was give a few lines and a short scuffle. It doesn’t help that the only way they choose to tie him in is by having him go on a random rampage and bumping into someone.
@carloscrecelius9597
@carloscrecelius9597 2 жыл бұрын
For shame, you forgot Ororo was a pickpocket in Cairo, and that Adam Warlock was created by Lee and Kirby.
@pricedownproductions9851
@pricedownproductions9851 2 жыл бұрын
'Him' was created by Lee and Kirby, Thomas and Kane made him Warlock
@Eyrrll
@Eyrrll 4 жыл бұрын
On the topic of death, Jim’s Metamorphosis Odyssey ends with the death of our entire galaxy... which actually launches the Dreadstar character into his own series.
@animation1234111
@animation1234111 6 жыл бұрын
Well, about the Infinity Watch. Remember at this point the gems could not be used in unison. The Living Tribunal made sure of that. It still probably isn't a good idea to have them all together (why not give them to more powerful, less emotionally driven beings?), but still. Someone who takes them would be powerful sure, but not quite enough to take over the universe.
@PeanutStrawberry
@PeanutStrawberry 4 жыл бұрын
21:11 I'm sorry to butt in but Starling said on record that he based Thanos on Metron, but his editor told him to get inspiration from Darkseid. Classic misconception, but worth pointing.
@poeterritory
@poeterritory 5 жыл бұрын
Just love how you say what I thought about those comics at the time. Thanks.
@thesaurusakasickakatheomc7688
@thesaurusakasickakatheomc7688 4 жыл бұрын
Hold up a second. I do remember Silhouette. She was an underrated and underutilized character, in fact I think of her in the same category as characters like Cloak & Dagger. She was one of the highlights of mid-to-late run New Warriors In my opinion.
@samhighvoltage
@samhighvoltage 4 жыл бұрын
I can definitely see Spider-Man as religious, after all he is an everyman and has had interactions with angelic and demonic beings in the past. He most certainly is a man of science, but isn't above admitting there are things beyond his comprehension
@telemorphosis141
@telemorphosis141 5 жыл бұрын
15:18 not ovals, mobius strips! Maybe she just worships topology?
@d.aardent9382
@d.aardent9382 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, i wonder why the artist didnt know how to draw an infinity symbol which is a Möbius object?
@sketchstevens5859
@sketchstevens5859 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I was actually hoping you'd do this one soon. Can't wait to see you do George Perez or any other surprises you have.
@johncorvo5520
@johncorvo5520 4 жыл бұрын
Starlin has said Thanos was more inspired by Metron, not Darkseid.
@allendrake6960
@allendrake6960 4 жыл бұрын
This is true. Especially evident by the cosmically powerful throne he's often depicted in. A coworker of Starlin (who's name I can't recall) is apparently quoted as having seen Starlin's designs of Thanos and promptly suggested he should "beef him up", and that if he was going to "rip off" Kirby's New Gods, it should be the most popular one: Darkseid. I'd say his appearance (beyond the obvious of just being big and wearing armor) definitely takes inspiration from Darkseid as far as his facial features. There's notable differences, but the rough exterior and imposing, pupil-less eyes are in the same wheelhouse. They look equally ruthless and intimidating, though I've noticed Darkseid was originally depicted as more stoic and coldly emotionless than Thanos' usual grimacing or grinning.
@ajb695
@ajb695 4 жыл бұрын
@@allendrake6960 I think it was Roy Thomas who made that suggestion. I could be wrong, though.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 жыл бұрын
@@allendrake6960 All three of them love to sit menacingly.
@Noms_Chompsky
@Noms_Chompsky 3 жыл бұрын
Awww, we're back to this backdrop. I like the better one he had with the iconic moments than the sight gag one.
@WhostheMAC1
@WhostheMAC1 4 жыл бұрын
I met Starlin in February 2020 in Detroit at a Comic Convention, I got my Copy of Iron Man #55 signed and graded. What a time.
@tracycramer4817
@tracycramer4817 7 ай бұрын
That was well informed and funny. Thanks! Keep it up!
@canadianturtle7240
@canadianturtle7240 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, can I just say that I love your sense of humor? I don't know if you do it on purpose, but you're hilarious.
@jamesgoldin7063
@jamesgoldin7063 5 жыл бұрын
I just discovered your site! Great, great work. Thank you. I do remember some Avengers comic from the early 70s (I think) where Dane Whitman (the Black Knight) did decide to move to or stay in the 12th century and fight alongside the Crusaders. Which doesn't REALLY explain the Holy Grail image, of course, unless there's some Templar conspiracy theory at work?
@corwin32
@corwin32 4 жыл бұрын
I sometimes wonder if I am the only living _Sleepwalker_ fan on the planet...
@KameronJ7
@KameronJ7 4 жыл бұрын
Just you and me pal.
@STOB-STICKSON
@STOB-STICKSON 4 жыл бұрын
I'll make 4. Lol
@33ronin
@33ronin 4 жыл бұрын
Me as well.
@chrisingram4209
@chrisingram4209 6 жыл бұрын
One of my favorites!! Love the marvel cosmos stuff!
@HeronimousPhunk
@HeronimousPhunk 4 жыл бұрын
Adam Warlock was created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, but they called Adam HIM. Roy Thomas and Gil Kane actually called him Adam Warlock four/five years later.
@filmtorres
@filmtorres 4 жыл бұрын
Informative and entertaining. Great work!
@MichaelWhismanACBA
@MichaelWhismanACBA 7 жыл бұрын
Dang, looks like the KZbin bug caught up with me. Your past few videos aren't showing up in my sub box. Luckily I check your channel anyways.
@gatorcroc7212
@gatorcroc7212 5 жыл бұрын
Lets hear about Jim Starlins most underrated creation! SHANG CHI! >:(
@chalkdustonline5788
@chalkdustonline5788 5 жыл бұрын
He's getting a movie!
@FlamingoKicker
@FlamingoKicker 4 жыл бұрын
I bet when the Marvel/Disney film of Shang Chi comes out there won't be any mention of his (one-time) father Fu Manchu (partly cause Marvel doesn't own the character and didn't want to keep paying the licensing fee but also because times change and those Asian stereotypes don't work well at the movies anymore).
@VonWenk
@VonWenk 4 жыл бұрын
Much as Jim Starlin's work on Warlock has overshadowed the fact that Lee and Kirby created the character, I think most people associate Shang-Chi more with Moench and Gulacy than with Starlin.
@theajshow
@theajshow 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, c'mon now, what's wrong with USAgent?!?
@smokeemifugottem2516
@smokeemifugottem2516 5 жыл бұрын
And sleep Walker was kinda cool back then kinda of a good Freddy Kruger without the glove
@keenanerickson9892
@keenanerickson9892 5 жыл бұрын
@@smokeemifugottem2516 thank you
@squidyy2k
@squidyy2k 5 жыл бұрын
I would kill to see a fight between USAgent and KGBeast.
@allendrake6960
@allendrake6960 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of the character, but as someone already pointed out, his skill set and weaponry is basically amounting to a lesser Steve Rogers, on a team that already has Steve Rogers. I would say that as far as displaying religious beliefs, John Walker definitely seems more evident than Rogers, so it's not like the reasoning doesn't make sense, but as far as forming a group for her cause goes? It comes off as kind of redundant to get both of them.
@isshinryu11
@isshinryu11 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review, and OMG did you give me flashback creeps when you reminded me how they sent the additional "tie-in" stories all over the Marvel titles! It really turned me off of the Crusade. Maybe if I had gotten the Terror Inc., it would have been more palatable.
@d36williams
@d36williams 4 жыл бұрын
Looking through this art, I'm surprised how many camera shots are straight on. I realize not every artist is Kirby, and not every Marvel book is "the marvel way" but there's a lot of unremarkable camera angles which I usually associate with DC comics from that time. Marvel art if you take "How to Draw the Marvel Way" as a source of truth, was meant to be at Dutch Angles, and any other odd angel that could keep energy high. But in this book its one straight on shot after another
@azaze88
@azaze88 Жыл бұрын
I love starlins work, especially from the 70s
@chriswymore702
@chriswymore702 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it was mentioned, but the guy with the purple g'ove that comes across Warlock was not Thanos. It was some character who Jim Starlin created for another comic book company. I want to say his name was something like Dreadstar (I could be completely wrong.) But that story was explored in Warlock Chronicles Number 1.
@dfailsthemost
@dfailsthemost 3 жыл бұрын
I remember not understanding event bloat while first reading Infinity War and I spent so much money on crossover titles.
@sawysauce1256
@sawysauce1256 5 жыл бұрын
How the Hefle dose a guy named PARAGON become a villain? That’s like naming your kid “FireFighter” and he turns out a mortician.
@Jason-ms8bv
@Jason-ms8bv 2 жыл бұрын
I had more fun listening to this than I did reading those comics.
@TheKevphil
@TheKevphil 4 жыл бұрын
Good video, very interesting and entertaining, as always. BTW: Love your Kosmic Kitties sweat, Chris!
@thezabgoth7426
@thezabgoth7426 5 жыл бұрын
Love the Space Cats shirt, I've the same one.
@SonicUnderground316
@SonicUnderground316 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Clairemont established that Storm is from a long line of witch-priestesses with white hair, blue eyes, and a naturally gifted for sorcery. This was put in canon in the late 70's, if I'm not mistaken. The Ankh while originally an Egyptian symbol has also been used as a Vampyre Symbol, in recent times (hence why Goths are often seen wearing one). This is a bit of a stretch but maybe, he thought that the Ankh was basically representing the occult in general or mistaken it for a similar-looking symbol. As for Spider-man, I don't know if him being religious is exactly "Out of character" for him. Generally speaking, he always seems open to the possibilities of things existing and such. Also, you can be a Scientist and still have your own personal beliefs. Also, there are "devoted" religious folks and those who are a bit more "casual". like Matt Murdoch might go to the Church every Sunday but maybe Peter might just pray and go to church every once in a while. It's not as important for his character as Matt (hence why it ain't shown in the books) but he might still have faith. My point is yes, of course, story-wise, it would have made far more sense to show characters that have been established and somewhat characterized by religious beliefs like Nightcrawler for instance, but at the same time that doesn't mean that because a character isn't shown practicing he' or she is an atheist by default.
@raydeen2k
@raydeen2k 5 жыл бұрын
The very first comic book I ever got was the Captain Marvel issue where he went from silver to gold hair (don't know the number off the top of my head), but I was probably three or four at the time time and just the cover blew my little mind. I spent years just looking at the art before I could really understand the dialog. Jim was and is pretty much my main comic art influence. edit: I would guess that Kirby would have perhaps meant The Thing to be portrayed as a modern day golem (Hebrew clay/rock creature created to do the bidding of it's creator).
@johnminehan1148
@johnminehan1148 4 жыл бұрын
Starlin was raised in an Irish Catholic home. He may have made an inference that HANK McCOY might have a religious bent. McCoy might also be someone who is a believer based on reason, who would not be a fit for the Goddess.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 жыл бұрын
Weird that Lankowski would be a beliver based on on blind worship than reason for simklar reasons
@VVVHHHSSS
@VVVHHHSSS 11 ай бұрын
I just picked up Warlock, super excited to read it.
@A1Authority
@A1Authority 4 жыл бұрын
Adam Warlock is best described as a powerful, cosmically aware being, created via bio-evolution science. Personally, he is very stoic, almost removed (no doubt a result of all that awareness). Adam is hard to reach, but he is good on a cosmic scale, more concerned with cosmic balance and peace, when he can get it. Like the Silver Surfer, he is reluctant but morally drawn to this Reality-welfare duty.
@kaylaesbat3732
@kaylaesbat3732 5 жыл бұрын
I recently moved into an old house and one of the old tenants left a long box filled with old comics and a bunch infinity crusade stuff is in there including that foil cover issue
@gr8kat1
@gr8kat1 5 жыл бұрын
Ororo Munroe (Storm) grew up as an orphan and pick pocket in Cairo, Egypt. Not sure why she'd see a symbol from a religion (as well as a word from a language) dead for over 2000 years.
@lukemcgregor6969
@lukemcgregor6969 4 жыл бұрын
Gave a like for pronouncing Magus correctly.
@catfishvega3728
@catfishvega3728 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy this intelligent channel.
@n2bfw884
@n2bfw884 9 ай бұрын
Great stuff!
@WhostheMAC1
@WhostheMAC1 4 жыл бұрын
Cosmic Odyssey is one of the best books Jim has ever written.
@VonWenk
@VonWenk 4 жыл бұрын
One complaint I've always had about that series is John Stewart getting cocky getting Xanthi destroyed. The way the scene plays seems much more in line with something Guy Gardner might do. Oh, yeah. Let's have the Black Green Lantern screw up and lose a planet.
@juliobyesami
@juliobyesami 4 жыл бұрын
Counting lips was the most funny, especially the last one LOL! Hi from México
@CrystalblueMage
@CrystalblueMage 5 жыл бұрын
He did hide one gem away from the team.
@marcusbrothers5221
@marcusbrothers5221 10 ай бұрын
Jim Starlin made heavyweight title belts a must for cosmic level heroes in the captain marvel neighborhood of the universe
@alaindeloin6714
@alaindeloin6714 4 жыл бұрын
" The death of captain Marvel " is one of the best comic-book ever made. I love it .
@cade377
@cade377 6 жыл бұрын
This was during that period where Marvel would tie EVERYTHING to another comic. Remember all the Annuals that were tied together? Atlantis Attacks. Evolutionary War. Then they had smaller annual tie-ins. Anything to get people to buy more comics.
@magisterguidice
@magisterguidice 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much of the themes and plot points will be in the Infinity War films to come out by Marvel Studios. The spiritual themes may be toned down. This has made we want to read Jim Starlin's work.
@ComicTropes
@ComicTropes 6 жыл бұрын
I tend to think not much will be taken from these for the movies. Just some characters and the infinity gems themselves. But we'll see.
@dontchewglass
@dontchewglass 5 жыл бұрын
Why you gotta make fun of Sleepwalker :'(
@jamescole7930
@jamescole7930 4 жыл бұрын
the thanos copter was used in an issue of spidy super stories. it was sponsored by the then kids show called the electric company. it was a way to simplify it for kids who read the comic. not to have to explain something like a thanos to a 6 year old.
@AndrewJohnson-oy8oj
@AndrewJohnson-oy8oj 5 ай бұрын
During The Beast's time in The Defenders his entire story arc was about him confronting his faith and its conflict with his lived experience.
@gabrielpetricevic6606
@gabrielpetricevic6606 7 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on Mike Mignola.Hellboy would be awesome but the look at the creator would be even more awesome
@ComicTropes
@ComicTropes 7 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Petricevic October. On my calendar.
@fatswimdude
@fatswimdude 8 ай бұрын
bit late to the party here, but some input on the Black Knight's vision: The Black Knight title is passed on through an ancestral bloodline. The first ever Black Knight served under King Arthur, and was killed by Mordred. The character also draws some clear design influence from Arthurian stories (the magic sword, the be-titled knight purposed with lifelong quest, the basic idea of a knight as a legendary hero). Though the mythology of Arthur could not be called a religion, it can definitely be considered a standalone mythos that one might believe in, akin to the stories of the life of Jesus in the New Testament, or of the prophets in the Torah. While there is religious mythology in the legends, mostly pulled from various Pagan mythoi, it has served as an independent heroic mythology for the history of Britain. These stories were passed down, and eventually written, to build patriotism and (especially beginning in the 12th/13th centuries) convince men to fight and die for their country. Nearly every country in history has had some sort of patriotic myth, and, for the purposes of what Infinity Crusade is doing, they're not that functionally different from religions. This is especially fair since we're in a universe where most religious myths are actually about real, existing beings, who often come to earth and fight bad guys. The Holy Grail itself is a combination of several mythological concepts from several different religious mythoi. While vaguely associated with the crusades via the Knights Templar's obsession with Christian artifacts, it is associated much more closely with Arthur. Several of the great and central stories of Arthurian knights involve the quest to find the Grail, and the relic is said to rest with Arthur in Avalon. It makes complete sense to use it to represent the Arthurian legend, and it makes complete sense that the Black Knight would be willing to fight for the spirit of Arthurian heroicism, just as Living Lightning would be willing to fight for Jesus.
@Susie_Floozie
@Susie_Floozie 4 жыл бұрын
I was afraid you were going to skip Pip the Troll--my spirit animal! I still use the expression "more fun than brown-eyeing"!
@everettharris967
@everettharris967 6 жыл бұрын
I THINK, at 15:20, Sersi sees what looks to be a Mobius strip, not just an oval.
@user-vc7vn4pr5o
@user-vc7vn4pr5o 2 жыл бұрын
u always do a great job..............👍
@hobboskins8591
@hobboskins8591 4 жыл бұрын
Please consider talking about Garth Marenghis Darkplace! I was surprised you knew about it and would love to hear your thoughts on it!
@familiacastroconejofederic2016
@familiacastroconejofederic2016 6 жыл бұрын
Uh, Black Knight was in the crusades, I think it was in Marvel Fanfarre
@justinkroboth360
@justinkroboth360 5 жыл бұрын
Satanish is one of the goofiest fucking names I've ever heard - I love it. "How are you feeling?" "Eh, kinda Satanish."
@stephenvelez9710
@stephenvelez9710 Жыл бұрын
“...I gotta draw THiS for me.”--Ron Lim😂
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