Jimi Hendrix’s final setup change - good or bad?

[@MikelBluni]

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[@liberator32]

@mikelbluni which vibe did you use for this?

[@MikelBluni]

@@liberator32 Sabbadius Funky-Vibe 68

[@CorbCorbin]

I think the most likely reason he’d change his chain, is interference from the Fuzz Face, because the Wah was first in the chain. I’ve put pedals with buffers between a wah and Fuzz Face, and it sometimes fixes the problem, sometimes it doesn’t. Sometimes a wah into a Fuzz Face just works, but the next flat it won’t. Hendrix’s basic setup, was Wah>Fuzz Face>Octavia>Uni Vibe>amp. He may have had a bad patch cable, and needed to figure it out. It’s really difficult to tell what is going on, as I’ve done the same thing you have, back when I was looking for any photo and videos of Jimi’s pedals, and the chain he was using. One can hear the Wha problem happen, in nearly every concert performance, at some point, because he like the wah first. I think he likely changed this, if the Fuzz gave him a big problem. Though, your evidence relies on the Fuzz Face having the input on the right side, which they weren’t back then. It’s why so many people got his chain wrong for many years. They’d either never seen a vintage Fuzz Face, with input and output opposite from how nearly every other pedal I’ve ever seen. Not saying they didn’t make one, that had them reversed, but I’ve seen hundreds of Fuzz Faces Jimi used, snd all were Imput on the left, output on the right. So, that’s why I’m skeptical that he went Fuzz into Wah, at this gig; though it wouldn’t be surprising or shocking. They tried many different things, which is why his sound was constantly evolving. He wasn’t even using the highest gain Fuzz Faces yet. He’s just started playing what some say was the BC183 versions, but eventually these gear stories get very difficult to determine what is true or not. Even reading and watching interviews with Mayer, can be aggravating, as he’s contradicted himself over time, and will say things like “we put buffers in everything. Jimi wanted more and more gain. Buffers in compressors, buffers in the way, buffers in the fuzz…” In another he’d say that he built all of Jimi’s gear, and this new Axis Fuzz is the exact one Jimi used, even though he admitted in the 70’s, that he really didn’t know the exact circuits of the boxes, because he was constantly modding them, and Jimi never had one special one. The colors mean next to nothing, as far as the red Fuzz, that intrigues many, because of the Band of Gypsys show. It was a Silicon BC108 Fuzz Face. Yet, the myth it was germanium became a thing, because someone found one that was germanium, or they thought Jimi used Germanium transistor units, for more than just in 66’ and early 67’. Mayer started using Silicon, and never used Germanium again, for a Fuzz Fave, while Jimi was living.

[@waynegram8907]

Mikel, I'm glad you looked into this pedal order because I have been telling you this. I'm not sure why he uses 20 feet coil cables from the univibe to the wah and used another 20 feet coil cable from the wah to the fuzz face. The 20 feet coil cables used as patch cable adds "capacitance and LCR" in the picofarads which changes the Univibes phase shifting effect. If you make a video using looper/switcher pedal and use a loop#1 ( don't put a pedal ) but instead use the Loop#1 send/return ports put a 20 foot coil cable and Loop#2 put another 20 foot coil cable. Turn ON the univibe then add Loop#1 listen to the phase shifting of the univibe then add loop#2 listen to the phase shifting of the univibe. The 20 foot coil cable should change/alter the phase shifting of the univibe this is why I think Hendrix used a rat nest of coil cables because it make the fuzz face very unstable very WILD very untamed because of the added 20 foot coil cable + another 20 foot coil cable = more capacitance on the output ports of the fuzz face and univibe phase shifting has altered/change because of the cables capacitance. So you're using the Switcher/loop to turn on/off 20 foot coil cables instead of turning on/off guitar pedals. ALSO woodstock rig hendrix used a "Y" cable to split to marshall#1 and marshall#2 while Rainbow Bridge hendrix doesn't use the "Y"cable but Daisy chains the marshalls. Y cable VS Daisy Chaining marshalls make a big difference also.

[@MikelBluni]

Hey Wayne, great input again - thanks. In fact I stumbled upon that 2nd coil cable as a patch. Definitely something I’ll try out in the near future ☮️🎸✌️

[@waynegram8907]

@@MikelBluni there is a 20 foot coil cable from the wah output jack that goes under the fuzz face which is very unusual to put a coil cable under a fuzz face to be crushed and pinched when stepping on the fuzz face. I think Hendrix did this to make the fuzz face pick up cable noise and interferences to make the fuzz face very unstable. I have never seen anyone put cables underneath a fuzz face or fuzz pedal because it's just very odd but from the pictures you will see multiple coil cables underneath his fuzz face pedal

[@kirillprilepko394]

@@waynegram8907wow that is wild 😮

[@johntiger5]

🤯

[@mattragan1142]

Something I think I've discovered, but correct me if I'm wrong: A typical modern day 20ft cable is not as high capacitance as those 60's cables (well not s high as the coily one anyway), so it is not automatic or easy to recreate his tone coloring capacitance by just using modern longer cables.

[@carlygtr554]

It seems the pedal order changed around the same time he stopped using the Red Fuzz Face and moved to the grey Silicon Fuzz Face.

[@MikelBluni]

ABSOLUTELY 💯 And that is why I guess this Fuzz isn’t the Axis, but something with BC108s in it 🎸✌️☮️

[@andrefranco6814]

The red fuzz had sillicon transistors, the one with white knobs.

[@Purplexi]

He stopped using the red/white knob FF because it was stolen during the first set at Berkeley. The silver was simply available, probably louder than others.

[@carlygtr554]

@@Purplexi The silver sounds like a stock Si unit, whereas the red was unique, def custom from Roger Mayer.

[@paulyounger8884]

There were more than one or two specially made fuzz boxes Roger mayer made for Jimi Hendrix ...Roger Mayer used many Fuzz Face cases for his specially made fuzzes..it wasn't just the Axis fuzz Jimi had used .

[@56davidwright]

I think it has something to do with the white shovel like object he's holding..

[@TeleCaster66]

One neat trick you can do with the pedal order: Wah, UV, Fuzz is if you use the Wah and the fuzz, you turn the UV on and set the UV to Vibrato with the Intensity all the way down. The Wah works really well with the Fuzz this way. Your Wah pedal will not be washed out by the fuzz but will work perfectly with it. You need an actual Univibe or Univibe clone that's made like the original univibe with a double pole double throw switch. It can't be just any old stompbox labeled as a univibe clone, but not a true Vibe clone. I personally use this order anyway because I think it sounds better.

[@lousekoya1803]

You're the best !! Thanks from Quebec ! I always plug my guitar into the vibe first , otherwise it sounds weird .

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks a lot! And thanks for sharing your preferred way ✌️☮️🎸

[@balke7935]

With the UV first in the setup, you can clearly hear clarity of the full range of the effect, the lower end of it comes through with more intensity. Both sound great, I feel like it sounds better later in the chain though personally 🤷‍♂️

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks for sharing ✌️ You describe it very well 🎸

[@poisedforduty]

Are you sure that isn't a mic cable coming off Mitch Mitchells mic'ed drums??

[@MikelBluni]

As mentioned in my video, there was a cable chaos on stage. Everything is possible. However, the detected order sounds super plausible compared to the recording✌️🎸

[@lyndatomlins3448]

Great explanation & using all the correct gear! I just viewed a utube vid pushing the tired old theory that Jimis sound was his upside down Strat with longer bass E, plus reverse slanted bridge p.up. What a load of crap......Jimis sound was always his cranked amps & the pedals you highlight here. You do not need an upside down Strat, but you do need his then new experimental effects pedals. Cheers

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks for your feedback. For years I have played a Hendrix Voodoocaster from 1998. I can’t remember severe differences in sound, but I might be wrong 😑 To me it’s understanding the essence of music and style before equipment - ALWAYS!

[@pietroanania]

he doesn't use the "Y"cable but Daisy chains 3 marshall .Then the fuzz directly in low channel ampli if I understood?

[@JDStone20]

Interesting that the Ocativia is missing from this new lineup. I thought something looked different in the Maui Concert with his set-up. I think it sounds better with the Alternate version. Awesome video once again!

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks a lot. The Octavio disappeared after the few BOG concerts ✌️🎸

[@leonardo.rafael]

Jimis pedals were always stolen. Also his Octavios. He asked Mayer for replacements but in 1970 Mayer was very busy with his new business.

[@BigMikeGuitar]

I recall Vertex Effects owner commenting on there being a tonal difference in pedal order between fuzz first versus univibe first, and his opinion was to always put the univibe first because of some undesirable sound characteristic when the fuzz was first. Don’t remember the details, just the situation and order recommendation. Those interested would need to research. Cheers~

[@augustusbetucius2931]

I don't put much stock in what Mason M says...

[@BigMikeGuitar]

@@augustusbetucius2931 I’m vaguely aware that MM has attracted criticism regarding some controversial business issues, but it seems to me the integrity of his information about gear - some things I’ve cross-referenced - is generally relevant. Seems however, that MM may be a somewhat polarizing personality in the gear community. Cheers~

[@CorbCorbin]

@@BigMikeGuitar The difference with what Mason is talking about, is that he usually is giving tips on the cleanest, least problematic and buffered signal, possible. It’s why he preaches having a dedicated buffer, with a loop, that has a buffered in and out. Jimi was getting such a crazy amount of mids and treble, that they purposely used long cables, to darken the signal. Yet, Mater said he tried buffers in a lot of gear, but depending on the interview, it’s hard to know if he’s referring to only the studio gear, or the live gear too. The Uni Vibe first, actually takes away a lot of the sweep, from the Uni Vibe, or it’s a perceived difference to me. It definitely loses some of the intensity of the Vibe, but for what he likes in a chain, it makes sense. There’s also the problem with Uni Vibes that have an actual preamp, because it will push other pedals, and give more gain to a Fuzz, with more mid focus too. A Uni Vibe, that just has a volume control with a lot of headroom, it doesn’t act the same as a preamp Uni Vibe. I use a buffer like Mason recommends, depending on the amp, and my pedalboard. A small board, it usually isn’t necessary, but a big one sounds better using it, in my experience. There’s no correct way, as long as one can use the effect. I’ve had phasers or Univibes, in between a Fuzz and Overdrive, because it just made a unique tone.

[@BigMikeGuitar]

@@CorbCorbin Thanks for the insights on buffers and signal chain! Cheers~

[@waynegram8907]

What Univibe Clone pedal are you using? The original used +24vdc voltage while the Univibe clones are only +18vdc which is 24-18 = 6 vdc of signal HEADROOM difference which the original was DRIVING the output signal to the wah and fuzz pedal harder. Also Hendrix mostly never has his volume pot at 10max it was rolled back. If you roll back the strat volume pot and roll back tone pot you will get a THICKER univibe pulsating. When the Univibe as the FIRST pedal it has a Buffer circuit which when using the Strats tone pot rolled down it will increase the gain somewhat which I think why Hendrix was using the Univibe First. You have to use the Woodstock Fuzzface which is an octavia without the transformer which works better with the univibe First with the Strat tone pot rolled down to get those Horn like tones. The Univibe turned OFF has the buffer which makes it sound more compressed and changes the Wah SWEEP, so the univibe buffer changes the wah SWEEPING effect. You have to really focus on the wah sweeping taper effect by turning on/off the univibe to hear the difference. But like I said the original was 24vdc not 18vdc or 9vdc so the headroom of buffered audio on the output is different that is DRIVING the next pedal in the chain.

[@MikelBluni]

Thank for shring. I'm using the Sabbadius Fubky-Vibe, which also has the UV pre-amp. If you wanna know more on the specs, check here: www.sabbadius.com/?product=68-funky-vibe&lang=en

[@waynegram8907]

@@MikelBluni The Specs doesn't say if the internal rail to rails are 24vdc or 18vdc. The Volume control is an OUTPUT volume so put that at max setting to DRIVE the wah pedal and fuzz face. Hendrix often never used the strat volume at 10 max when using a wah pedal to get a wah sweep taper to sound more vocal. Using the Univibe PREAMP buffer it will change how the wah sweeps its taper CURVE. When rolling back the strats volume pot and rolling back the strat tone pot to make the Univibe sounds THICKER. Often Hendrix would set the Univibe intensity to 2 to 6 to get a Watery effect with the wah pedal. Its how you use the strats volume pot settings and tone pot settings with the Univibe PREAMP buffer

[@johnpierson8398]

Thank you for this great video. I definitely hear the UV first in the Maui concert tone. And I think this is what was used in the song Hey Baby from the New Rising Sun studio recording. Like the EP3 preamp in an Echoplex delay, the Univibe preamp has it's own distinctive sound and impact on Jimi's tone (which I learned from from you on one of your videos). Jimi was a pioneer in so many ways. I share your love and dedication of his music.

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks so much for your feedback. Those preamps were Jimi’s secret sauce 🎸✌️

[@picksalot1]

I like the UV Last, as it sounds clearer to me in that position in your examples. Thanks

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks for sharing your opinion ✌️☮️

[@Shadytube2024]

Great channel! How about Jimi’s picks, strings, tubes, and guitar tone caps 👍🏻

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks a lot. Great topics that you mention. ✌️🎸☮️

[@kuitaristi3003]

When i use univibe before fuzz i noticed that, when i put univibe ON fuzz effect almost disappear. Univibe like make all even. It was like turning guitar volume knob lower to clean fuzz a little. I have univibe volume knob full. I mean from guitar to > univibe > fuzz > wah > amp. I like to keep fuzz before wah.

[@MikelBluni]

Yes, it can be due the fact that Fuzz usually doesn’t like buffer upfront. But, I’ve made different experiences with different Fuzzes. Try Vibe before Wah, it might help ✌️🎸

[@Inspector-71]

Hey Mikel, good info as always, it seems to me that the new pedal order gives the Uni-Vibe a bit more of a bassier tone, I dig it. Also, I remember years ago seeing a YT video about Jimi's tone and pedals and they claimed and even showed a picture from what I remember as being a gear shot of one of the BOG new years shows, and the showed a close up of what they claim was a Electro-Harmonix Black Finger compressor pedal. I haven't seen the video again in years, I was wondering if you've ever come across any info on that? I'll see if I can find the video but it's been years so who knows, anyways, good stuff, take care! Here's a possible reason as to why he switched, during the Atlanta Pop Festival, when he is playing the Star Spangled Banner, you can clearly see him (and anyone who has used a wah knows) getting his guitar cable out from under the wah foot treadle where it commonly gets caught and wanted to eliminate that because it is annoying when you're in the moment and go to press down the wah and the cable is stuck

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks a lot. You describe it very well and that’s what it boils down to from a playing feel point of view, too. I’ve never heard of a compressor. Mike of EHX knew Jimi and everything is possible, but a video or shot of the Black finger? Man that would be sensational. However, I think no compressor was used for BOG. I like your practical explanation for the switch - definitely something to consider although it seems too easy….✌️☮️🎸

[@liberator32]

Anyone know the song played at 7:58? I’m drawing a blank. Thanks!

[@MikelBluni]

Villanova Junction ✌️🎸✌️

[@muffinman1978]

Something what Robin Trower would do too. Place the UniVibe first. What is your favourite UniVibe?

[@SergioFilho]

If I get it right, the usual order was Wah > Fuzz > Vibe? I always thought he used UV > Fuzz...

[@iagobroxado]

Early on, I believe so. Later, (1970?) he changed it to Vibe 1st.

[@J.OKRoadrunner]

Very cool sir. Great explanation.

[@Frenchmelodymaker]

Already thought about that, talked about it on the gear page (hendrix Maui set up), but many people told me that it doesn’t sound like the univibe is put first in the signal chain. His tone was amazing on this live

[@MikelBluni]

Hey, I’ve seen your thread at TGP 😀 Unfortunately, nobody really hit the nail on the head with their answers. Same goes for many other online discussions on the internet. To my understanding it’s “easy” to say he put the vibe first, but seeing, proving and hearing it is what hopefully finally clarifies this topic 😉 His tone with the UV first was great 👍🎸💯

[@Frenchmelodymaker]

@@MikelBluni definitely love the warmer tones it provides. I thought about making some videos on how to sound like Hendrix (songs, lives,…) as I’m an Hendrix nut as well, may I ask you how you record and film yourself at the same time ?

[@MikelBluni]

@@Frenchmelodymaker I plan to make lessons later that year. My recording setup: Full live setup attenuated, miced cab, Apogee One into Logic Pro X. For filming one single Sony Alpha 600. For speech Rode Lavalier into iPhone. Super simple setup ✌️

[@Frenchmelodymaker]

@@MikelBluni thanks !

[@davidpaterson3443]

The uni-vibe has a more pronounced and deeper sounding 'throb' when placed 1st in the chain.

[@shay6gal4]

Thanks Mikel. Very interesting video. One Thing I notice on Jimi's live recordings, and I'd love to get your take on that, is the different tone between the 69-early70 tone to that of mid-70 onward. I'm reffering specifically to the fuzz tone with full volume. One can easily hear the difference between the Fillmore concert to the Isle of Wight concert. for example - if you take machine gun solos of either concerts - in the Fillmore the sound is more open and dynamic while in Isle of Wight it is much more comppressed and sound to me a bit like "burned" tone. I wonder why is that? Is it the fuzz or the amplifiers that makes the difference?

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks for your feedback. In my Fuzz video I came up with a theory. I think that Jimi switched to BC108 transistors after BOG. Definitely a difference compared to the the transistors used in the Axis Fuzz (red one with white knobs). The BOG tone might have come together due to Jimi playing a JTM45/100. I’m not a 100% sure on that though ✌️☮️✌️🎸

[@Robert.Averkios.Antonsen]

Good video, Mikel. Personally i have always used the univibe first, otherways the fuzz makes the univibe a bit mushy, unclear. I got the idea from Robin Trower, who does that.

[@MikelBluni]

Thank for your feedback. Indeed, Trower had his Uni-Vibe always before his Fuzz 👍🎸☮️

[@i.m.22]

In your video the difference of the order of the UV is barely noticeable but it does have a big effect if you witness it yourself. Everybody needs to try for themselves and decide what works best for them. I prefer the Vibe before the Fuzz but the Wah goes last for me...

[@MikelBluni]

Exactly, that’s why I suggested wearing headphones and also described the playing feel ✌️🎸✌️

[@bluevd12]

na The order of the pedals is the order..Its just that he had a cleaner stage area if he used an extention to get to his wah . It's still wah -fuzz -univibe. no mystery here...he wasnt thinking ..mmm think ill drive my wah wah real hard .

[@BennieJanse]

Great job man . Lot's of people try to get his sound.

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks so much Bennie 🙏🎸✌️

[@ReeWebster]

Alternate take sounds louder?

[@apollos_revival]

Funny enough, I didn't know he did this but it's exactly how I set-up my pedal order. Something about the Uni-vibe after the fuzz never sounded good to me. Too synthetic or something. I had to place a buffered pedal between my wah and fuzz to make it sound good as well.

[@alanparis7525]

Coincidentally, I was rewatching the video for "Voodoo Child" from Hawaii before I watched Mikel's latest upload. I noticed that Jimi's solo tones were more experimental, bordering on synth-like. The stranger sounds seemed to be caused by the Univibe.

[@MikelBluni]

Absolutely, he created that „Lightsaber“ effect with the Uni-Vibe 💯🎸

[@jeffreylazzarinisr7419]

Well done! What are the settings you use for the fuzz and uni please?

[@alguitarchristie]

I have always had my set up like that! I don't like the fuzz before the Univibe!

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks for sharing ✌️🎸✌️

[@poisedforduty]

the UV is always ON, it does sound fuller with the UV first. I wonder since the UV was designed for Organ, the Organ preamp goes into UV ......so maybe the UV was designed for a preamp setup into UV?

[@MikelBluni]

The UV preamp is a crucial element to Jimi’s later tone. Didn’t know it was designed for organ ✌️☮️🎸

[@siriusra2692]

...........i have two theories on why Jimi would switch the order......Jimi was very picky about how his fuzz sounded.....he liked to tame the fuzz sound ...so first i think at Maui......he wanted the preamp on the vibe to boost the fuzz going into tne amp....he may have done this to try to get more sustain....the fuzz going direct into the amp........secondly the vibe is more subtle when it's before the fuzz........as we know Jimi constantly had his fuzzes modded......i think if the fuzz was too hot or aggressive....he would put the vibe last in tne order to tame it......or if the fuzz wasn't hot or aggressive enough...he wanted the fuzz to go directly to the amp with no pedal in between ......Jimi was very critical bout his fuzz sounds....

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks for sharing. Some good points you mention. That’s how I perceived Jimi regarding his equipment ✌️💯🎸

[@cedarchoper58]

perhaps it something to do with going to normal tunning. But at Woodstock and Berkley in normal tunning he is Guitar-wha-fuzz-univibe amp. So the change was not consistant

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks for mentioning. Woodstock and Berkley is an earlier period. In my video I’m describing what happened on the last leg of the Cry of Love tour from mid 1970 on ✌️👍🎸

[@cedarchoper58]

@@MikelBluni Berkley was may 30 1970 are you talking after that

[@MikelBluni]

@@cedarchoper58 Yes 🎸

[@trevorgwelch7412]

Roger Meyers hot rodded Jimi's amps , pick ups , pedals .... this meant know one could copy his unique sound . ✨🎸✨☮️🇺🇸

[@MikelBluni]

Kind of a craftsman made copyright, plus his fingers and soul 😀✌️☮️

[@augustusbetucius2931]

I've never heard of RM alter Hendrix's pickups, just his pedals. Amps seem possible, although I've yet to hear that one yet.

[@Shadytube2024]

What wah used in Sweden? Red House sounded awesome!

[@kuitaristi3003]

Where's your Les Paul? 🙂 And oh, you have a Bassman too! Aaand yes when guitar goes to uni-vibe it's effect becomes greater. It's just simple logic that, if guitar goes first to some pedal the pedal will work "better". I like this Maui way better. Thanks for this discovery!👍

[@MikelBluni]

My LP rests in its case…very few playing these days. Of course the effect is more pronounced when it comes first, but as I said: the UV preamp juices up the signal too - in a very positive way with cool effect to the Wah. That was what struck me most. Maui tone is gold…I wish the wind hadn’t been that strongly whistling into the mics that day. I’m sure the sound would have been on par with the other great concerts ✌️✌️✌️🎸

[@ALtheDoctorWho]

It's funny back in the day I was starting to get into Hendrix. I only played what I could. I never thought of fooling around with the uni vibe. I could have because my Keyboard player had one instead of a Leslie. Who knew back then that these boxes would be so Valuable today. Even the guitars. In the 70s you could buy a Strat for $275.00 Les Pauls were salling for not much more. I remember starting at $290.00 up to $325.00 Any who Thanks for Getting into the finer points of Hendrix set up.

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks a bunch! Yeah back in the days…I once skipped an old Uni-Vibe which was offered for around 800$…that was around 2008 or so 🫨 Had I known…🎸🙏☮️

[@ALtheDoctorWho]

@@MikelBluni I think my Keyboard player payed $189.00 LOL

[@GabeHelma]

Adjusting for inflation its about the same price nowadays.

[@augustusbetucius2931]

Fuzz/distortion before or after a univibe are two different animals. This has nothing to do with impedances necessarily. When I went through a phase of trying to get that Hendrix sound with a Univibe, and merely assumed that univibe after drive pedals, like a flanger or phaser would work. I was wrong. With the distortion/fuzz on, it sounded all wrong. Univibe has to go into the drive pedals or it won't sound right. A great example is the Band of Gypsies "Machine Gun". That sound is really particular.

[@mattragan1142]

But....in photos from the BOG concert he is clearly shown patched into the fuzzface before the univibe, right?

[@benjaminwoodrowmusic6070]

Yeah jimi ran his vibe last on band of gypsys, he was going into cranked marshalls don't forget not clean amps

[@Macmax7077]

Awesome video but I think you are mistaken the input and output on that fuzz.

[@MikelBluni]

It was my assumption that they switched the original order due to convenience. Even if it’s the old Arbiter in-out-order the setup isn’t different 🫨🎸☮️

[@leewalton6882]

When I have done this- rearrange the order like this- My reason and the most significant change was the fact of having the fuzz following the vibe. Depending on which fuzzface, how it is dialed, how the amp is dialed, how the vibe depth is tuned (like deep enough to be as thick an effect as desired when the sound is cleaner like say Machine Gun at Fillmore East *intro* vs the more full out driven sound during the solo section) sometimes it seems when the gtr vol is turned up to get all the fuzz and sustain, the vibe after the fuzz *can* make the overall sound “weird”. Like it really takes over the tonal character of the fuzz in more ways than just adding that wonderful wobbling or throb sound. With the fuzz after the vibe, the fuzz sound stays more intact in its own right and the vibe is more transparent, mainly just adding that throbbing sound but without completely overtaking the character of the sound overall. Again this may or may not be depending how everything else is set and which version of fuzz face. Another way to solve that would be just have the amp more overdriven so there is more gain after the vibe but this changes other things. In short- I could never arrive at a definitive order between vibe and fuzz that makes them sound the way I want together under all conditions. May or may not have anything to do with Jimi’s thinking. anyway I love everything g you are doing. Man you’re BEAUTIFUL! :-)

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks man and thanks for sharing your thoughts ✌️🎸✌️

[@archstanton3763]

Great video love your setup. What number is your Jimi Hendrix Custom Flying Vee ?

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks a lot ✌️

[@Bmovieprod]

Trower also places the Uni-vibe first.

[@MikelBluni]

Absolutely! I saw Trower about 12 years ago and he had it second in line right after the Wah. But I’m sure he also had it first when I saw older video material 👍💯

[@streamofconsciousness5826]

The Alternate set up sounds like it would be easier to play, and it also sounds HiFi, I imagine he can get and control feedback a little easier as well. Very few of these, Mozart and Beethoven with a modern DAW... Paganini with a Electric Guitar, ....Jimi with a Modern efx board....

[@richardpierce7819]

Its been my experience that pedal order changes sometimes due to the crew making a mistake ( most players have techs that set up their rigs to give the player more time to rest between shows when on tour.) Sometimes this works well , sometimes not.

[@MikelBluni]

Stage hands in Maui were probably no professionals. BUT he used the same setup in Scandinavia and at the Isle of Wight! I’m sure Jimi was picky about his gear and would not have tolerated a random pedal order 🎸✌️☮️

[@timeagan893]

TO MIKE BLUNI: Sir I think you are on to something....HERE's WHY. Your newer proposed order does solve well known issues that anyone using these effects will surly stumble upon right away. For a long time I have settled on Wah-> univibe-> Fuzz. Anyone will plainly hear the difference between Fuzz into univibe as opposed to Univibe into fuzz....When you hit the univibe with the fuzz sound it is much more "Swishy, "phase shifter-like, sort of more compressed and becomes way to drastic. (more like the Isley bros song "who's that lady"...Whereas when you go from univibe into fuzz face it sounds more deep,throbing and pleasant and luckily the fuzz face does not seem to mind being hit with the univibe (most of the time fuzz faces want to be first in line , right after the guitar. Your new proposed effects order makes sense also when you mention the Wah being "modded" by his later/second tech thereby solving the age old problem of "squealing feedback" when going from an "unmodded" wah into the fuzz face (ALSO we know that if you go from "fuzz face into wah, again you get the more "squishy/compressed sound that is so much less wide "vocal, "vowel-like" wah we know and love from Jimmi. So for these reasons I would say that you may indeed be correct. ALSO I would suggest that Robin Trower also went univibe into fuzz (but more likely, into the newly added "Pre Amp gain channel that would be on Robin's JCM 800's or if any earlier Robin did use a tech-made gain/boost pedal that would get hit by the univibe, but either way (pedal or amp "pre-gain it was always better sounding than "Fuzz(or gain) into the univibe that would produce the dreaded "squishy"phase shifter-like compressed sound that is far less appealing......ALL in all I think you are correct...GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks a lot for taking the time and sharing your perspective and experience. Very much appreciated ✌️🎸

[@Chiller11]

For his short time in the spotlight Jimi was repeatedly a first adopter of technology at or even before it hit the market.

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks for mentioning. He was a true pioneer of technology. Not only with his pedals, but also in the studio. He also had good people around him who inspired him in getting the sounds out of his head on to the record ✌️☮️🎸

[@leonardo.rafael]

Stanley Miller (millstap) has been recommending during years to use the Univibe as first pedal. Some months ago it was also recommended by Mason Marangella of Vertex Effects to avoid its phasey character when it is used after the fuzz. I adopted it months ago because it gives me more transparent tones and more throb without impedance problems. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKGYcoNnrbCheM0si=wWX6iH22OFRrMpRu

[@skullheadwater9839]

I enjoyed the video from an investigative POV, and I appreciate the fact that you are a Hendrix devotee, but I am more concerned about the tone I get which conveys me as a guitarist, I understand it could be lucrative to be a Hendrix impersonator/clone, hell SRV made a career out of it. Maybe if I played in a cover band this would be more interesting to me. No insult you seem like a cool guy who I would be friends with if we lived in the same town. I just don't understand obsessing over mimicry to this degree. I will check out more videos as this is the first one of yours I came across to make sure I am not mistaken.

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks for your openness 👍

[@saulvb]

Sorry man but if you don’t understand the importance of dissecting a guitarist’s tone you don’t understand how crafting tone helps you develop your own voice. The point of this analysis is not for the purpose of sounding like Hendrix. Nobody sounds like Hendrix. The whole point is to understand how he arrived at his stellar tone for the purpose of understanding how to craft one’s own tone. You don’t read Hemingway to write like Hemingway, you read him to understand writing!

[@mattragan1142]

I DO understand obsessing to this degree. 😁

[@kirillprilepko394]

Thank you for such a useful research!! Keep up the great work!!🙌🤝

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks a lot. I’ll go on as long as the content seems valuable to my viewers. Still have some topics to cover 😀🎸✌️☮️

[@matttornetta9049]

man i love your videos! thanks so much!

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks you my friend. I’m happy you like them 🎸✌️☮️

[@Gimi.Endrics]

Great video as always, in my opinion Jimi wanted to experiment. For example, for a long time now when I use an overdrive on a clean amp I put the vibe before the fuzz and after the overdrive, and I must say that I like it better this way. The vibe sounds more engaging and attenuated just right. If instead I put the vibe at the end with the fuzz and overdrive before, the vibe to my ear does not sound good, that swap is too intense and becomes annoying.

[@MikelBluni]

First of all thanks to you for bringing up that topic with the tube shaped object. I understand what you say about the Vibe before Fuzz. In my eyes the Vibe at the end of the chain makes only sense, if it goes into a cooking amp. BUT, I must admit that the alternative order with vibe first sounds and feels so great that I’m gonna try it at my next gig 🎸🎸✌️

[@Gimi.Endrics]

@@MikelBluni Mikel, thanks so much for your content and expertise. Even amidst all that chaos, you were able to decipher the order of Jimi's effects on stage. You're absolutely right about the vibe - it should only be applied with the amplifier. I'm definitely going to try out this new pedal order with the vibe first. It's an interesting concept

[@frankbrown3717]

My guess is fuzz pedal is first, wah second, uv last.

[@MikelBluni]

I would exclude this s Jimi didn’t like the sound of the Wah with the Fuzz before it. At least Roger Mayer told me so when I have met him. But…we never know ✌️🎸✌️

[@steveg219]

PRS released amps based on having access to the original Woodstock Marshall. He says it was modified and they used these mods in the HDRX models

[@ampturcoguitarwerks]

Pretty similar what I am doing with my Wizard Cables. Sounds incredible!!

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks for sharing ✌️🎸✌️

[@markhilbert6573]

Brilliant work

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks a lot for your kind words ✌️☮️🎸

[@aminahmed2220]

What a fantastic video have a wonderful weekend ❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks my friend ✌️☮️✌️

[@Les537]

It was hard to stay awake for the first 10 minutes, but I managed.

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks for sharing your opinion. Feel free to skip and move on if my vids are not for you. All the best ☮️✌️☮️

[@kittortuga2720]

nice job, man!! killer

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks so much my friend ✌️🎸

[@hjmmjh4566]

Good detective work.

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks a lot ✌️🎸

[@tomneily9506]

You got it sounds just like it

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks so much ✌️🎸

[@andrewgillis8572]

alternative is noisier

[@MikelBluni]

A little bit.

[@rijancaffe]

My personal favorite order of these effects are vibe, fuzz, wah.

[@MikelBluni]

Thanks for sharing 🎸✌️

[@jupitermoongauge4055]

I've always used this pedal order

[@MikelBluni]

That’s great ✌️🎸✌️

[@charlesrubitschung7592]

Jimi Hendrix switched the order of his rig because a lot of Rock guitarists do that every now and then because at the beginning of the tour he wanted it to look different but still sound the same and at the end of it he got tired of it being the way it was at the start of it and for a Rock God like Hendrix you'd think he'd want his rig to look one way but sound the other way

[@MikelBluni]

Interesting guess ✌️☮️✌️

[@kirillprilepko394]

Agreed! It was all about experimenting with a different combinations of his gear. I guess he didn’t care for a lot of technical aspects, as of new sounds he could get variating his guitar stuff back and forth!