VR Transforms Sim Racing...So Why Does No One Use It?

Tbh this video does a fairly good job of displaying why I don't use VR. Capturing it is tricky and it's hard to watch...but from an immersion point of view, it's unbeatable!
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[@CaptainPeanut]

I always race in VR. It's an entirely different experience to racing in 2D.

[@hansolo631]

Me too, and while racing has grown on me a ton, I'm not sure I'd simrace in 2D. Even though it's the only gaming I do nowadays. I thought the quest 3 was a gamechanger as well. It was the first time I was able to make the world clear, like a monitor. That little bit of extra resolution, combined with 1.5x SS, it's finally pure in there.

[@Andrew-qb3oq]

same, its the only way i race.

[@drpenguin57]

vr + motion rig feels remarkably close to driving a real car

[@DNGOOfficial]

I don't know how. Racing in vr makes my physically sick.

[@Fetidaf]

@@DNGOOfficialit takes a little bit of time to get used to it. The first time I used it I was about ready to throw up after about half an hour, maybe an hour and I spent the rest of the night being nauseous. I tried again the next day and I felt a little nauseous during and after but not as bad so I played for 2-3 hours. I just kinda forced my way through it for about a week and at the end of it I could play all day with no issues outside of the headset being sweaty or whatever. And now I can’t really race without it… I’m not very good at racing but I have a hell of a time doing it.

[@MCParms]

I race in VR whenever I can. During lockdown I was inspired by your content to make my own, and all the videos on my channel are all VR. The immersion is just the best, and the times I’ve been able to use a motion rig too makes it all the more enjoyable.

[@mbezik]

i dont even have a monitor infront of my rig anymore, VR is the only way to play

[@MrTbone1975]

same

[@arranmc182]

I still do for the more casual or older games that dont have VR

[@williamg2620]

same here

[@volrath__]

Same here! Although I do wanna put one on so I can play some Sims that don't work well in VR

[@steveh4264]

Same boat. Given I'm lucky to get a couple hours of sim rig time in a week these days, but what time I do get is all in VR since rF2, AC, ACC, AMS2 and now LMU get 99.9% of my play time. Ditched a monitor the minute I got into a high resolution HMD after retiring the trusty and faithful OG Vive after ~7 years of service.

[@VideoFromJake]

Sim racing is by far the best experience I've had in VR. The sense of speed is incredible, but I also love being able to glance to the side to check who's alongside you, small things like that which really help with your awareness on track. Also helps me ignore my pleb logitech setup

[@Int3x0r]

Don't feel bad about the logitech setup! I started sim racing with a G920 with 3 pedals and the H-shifter. Now I have a Simagic direct drive setup. It's more fun and engaging due to the high torque (15nm), but do you think it made me a lot faster? Nope. Perhaps a few seconds if I'm honest. Not much more. Sim racing is a very elitist hobby, but in the end it's about having fun and I did have fun for years with my Logitech.

[@gumis123PL]

@@Int3x0ryou know a "few seconds" can be the difference between winning and losing in racing lol

[@Int3x0r]

@@gumis123PL Yeah, I was talking about Nordschleife hot laps. I don't have iRacing. And I admit I'm not consistent enough for competitive sim racing.

[@teeambird2079]

@@Int3x0rI’m looking at upgrading from a G29 to a Moza DD but not sure if I actually want loads of torque like isn’t anything over 10nm just painful after a while to the point where it’s unrealistic? I have no idea how much torque real racing wheels produce

[@Int3x0r]

@@teeambird2079 I have the answer for you. A real GT3/GT4 car produces around 12 to 13 Nm. I got this information from a video a watched from an actual GT3 racer who also does simracing. So with the Simagic Alpha with a 15 Nm peak you can dial it down to a realistic 12-13 Nm without any clipping.

[@BigJAnder]

VR has completely changed my sim experience. I don’t think I could ever go back.

[@hangingchad_]

Same. I've been using it since 2019. I bought WRC Generations recently, and I couldn't believe it didn't have VR support. I returned it immediately. Thank god for Dirt Rally 2.0.

[@IgnitionP]

Should I go monitor or vr for my first setup, my pc isn't that good so I don't think vr would work that well

[@tonaslopatak]

I did not played sim racing games over 1 year only coz my pc started switching off when played in vr ... now it is sorted and I am back in seat again

[@moleex5759]

Hope you are enjoyin WRC in VR now.

[@pablocabezas1265]

i know i cant. I had a acc race and the vr has a malfunction. i tryed to race with the monitor and i couldn't make it. I retired after 2 laps.

[@katrinapaton5283]

As a kid I used to hang out every year waiting for Bathurst and when it finally arrived I'd be glue to the screen waiting for that most elusive moment of all when the commentators shut up and allowed us to listen to that glorious V8 accompanied by in-car footage. It was magical back then and it's no less so now. But now, I dont have to wait for that amazing day in October because, while Jimmy is having an amazing time driving a Ford GT40 around a track that no longer exists, I can be there right with him. Can't get this level of buy in anywhere else and, along with his commentary, is why I started following him in the first place.

[@tonyelrod295]

Quest 3 user here. I only race in VR. Running with my 3090 plat with 24gigs. I have no issues with resolution and seeing everything. The FPS are great. I can spend hours just racing or doing practivce laps. I love it. And with the elite strap, I really have no discomfort issues. I just use a fan for any heat issues. Never even break a sweat.

[@V-Racing]

i use an in-built fan within my VR headset's facial interface, i have never got face sweat after that.

[@RoniBliss]

Yup its unreal! Racing in flatscreen is laughable in comparison

[@panhem7149]

VR is such a different experience, when the virtual wheel is in the right spot, you just feel the click of being tranported into that car. The only opportunity to drive rare cars for mere mortals.

[@linzkirk]

Yes totally agree, I mainly play iRacing in VR, But I also have PSVR2 with GT7. This is the game I love for rare cars with excellent interiors. I got in a Ferrari 308 in GT7, my dad had one when I was a kid, when he he sold it I was devastated. being in it again was like de ja vu, I couldn't even remember what it looked like inside until I saw it again. I was actually like going back in time, except this time I got to drive it.

[@alexojideagu]

@@linzkirk very cool

[@pedroferrr1412]

EXACTLY!!!!

[@Sabre_Wulf1]

I play sims in vr exclusively. As soon as i tried vr in sims, that was it... end of flat screen monitors in my case. I own an ftype svr in real life, and vr gave me the closest experience to when i take it for a spin. I have had 3 screen racing on pc for years and years. Its the biggest leap in immersion. You do really natural things ingame, like looking at how close other cars wheels are during close corners, moving your head naturally around like when you drive for real, especially in rear view and side mirrors. And when you hit elavation you really feel the hills and the dips. Its utterly brilliant.

[@RoryDunn117]

Which headset you using?

[@Sabre_Wulf1]

@@RoryDunn117 got a few pal. Original vive, index, psvr2, xr elite. I got into vr 2016 so its become the norm for me. As soon as project cars added vr support back in the day i knew it was going to vr. (Although project cars looks clunky these days).

[@randy7933]

So funny that literally yesterday my grandfather was telling me about riverside international (because we live in that area) and how fun that track was back in the day, and then my favorite sim racing youtuber makes a video on it. Lifes got some weird coincidences lol

[@ccramit]

Put him in your rig with the VR. Let him relive the glory days!

[@randy7933]

@@ccramit I 100% will!

[@Dethmeister]

It's not a coincidence. Your life is a simulation.

[@ThaJay]

@@Dethmeister YOUR life is a simulation. I'm living the original one.

[@Dethmeister]

@@ThaJay Oh, right right. That's why I keep having weird coincidences and also seeing other people talking about weird coincidences. It's part of my sim.

[@pablocabezas1265]

vr = depth felling monitor = no depth felling vr: you can see all apex monitor: you cant see all apex vr= it's like you are inside the car monitor= you just are looking at a screen end of discution.

[@DanielDorn-tr7tw]

I am racing only in VR. The immersion cant be beat.

[@babydave2662]

I can't race without VR now, the spacial awareness and depth perception smashes any screen you can buy. I have a tiny cheap TV as my monitor now, takes up way less space.

[@V-Racing]

VR has its challenges(sweat, time to set up, not seeing your buttons) but once you get over those, you can never go back to a monitor.

[@PITAH1]

I don't think quest 3 makes you sweat

[@V-Racing]

@PITAH1 all the headsets make you sweat

[@PITAH1]

@@V-Racing I use the Quest 3 with no sweat. It is great

[@kaiying74]

I switched to VR back when the Oculus CV1 came out and I cannot go back. I use it for Enduro's and 24's & I love it. If I'm being honest it does stop me driving sometimes because it's so stimulating and doesn't really lend itself to a chilled experience. Having said that it's absolutely glorious for the new iRacing Tempest weather, I find it helps when driving off line massively.

[@tdhitchins]

That passion, that feeling, love it! I love going around the Nurburgring in vr on ams2 in a thunderstorm. That’s my go to atm with an open top car, nothing too fast tho so I can just enjoy the experience

[@smallbutdeadly931]

I love using VR for sim racing, there's really nothing better! After I got my Bigscreen Beyond, comfort became a non-issue for me. The lack of FOV doesn't bother me because its still a much better view for me than triples anyways!

[@cingkole7893]

yup, the beyond is the best headset for sim driving 100%

[@robinv1485]

The thing with the fov on the beyond a lot of people miss cause they take numbers at face value is not having the inertia of the headset when you move your head. It feels so comfortable to move around that you don't really feel the need for bigger fovs like other headsets. Like yea a bigger fov would be great, but I think the lack of inertia when you change direction is a bigger deal for me

[@baccattack]

How have you found the lenses? Seen some people report internal reflections. With the OLED screens and comfort I think this would be ideal for endurance racing. Still rocking a Rift CV1 here 😅

[@robinv1485]

depends on your face shape, if you can get them close its almost not visible and sits on the bottom, otherwise its very apparent and they go to the center. If you have issues contact support, they will send you a thinner face gasket@@baccattack

[@sp33dr4ge881]

@@robinv1485 Pretty sure these guys are rolling out a new headset with a better fov - stay tunned

[@tattoodude8946]

The one thing that I don't like about VR racing is not seeing my shifter/handbrake (I do rally mostly). I know you memorize where they are, but grabbing blindly is a bit of a pain and the fact that they are not always in the same position as they are in the car (My old Lancia has the classic floor handbrake). I think this is where a crazy triple 55' setup has the advantage over VR. I could be wrong - I've never been in one of those setups so maybe the depth of field isn't as good, but it looks pretty sweet... and my wheel, buttons, shifter and handbrake are all where I can actually see them!!!

[@therealbettyswollocks]

It’s been a while since I watched and I’m still thrilled at Jimmer’s journey from shed dwelling to professional racer through simming. What an incredible journey and it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

[@mikulitsi1819]

I don't find it hard to watch unlike you implied in the description. I'd love to see more VR videos tbf

[@oliverer3]

I've heard it's pretty common that people get motion sick from it.

[@mikulitsi1819]

@@oliverer3 true, I've heard of that as well. However its when they use it, Jimmy implied that its hard to watch VR videos. I don't agree with that

[@freedom_born]

​​@@mikulitsi1819 Hmm would it possibly be 3 cameras, 2 good rigs (PC and seat/wheel)? One cam on driver, one on screen, one on pedals* - or is the race screen automatically synched with the PC. Sounds pricey. I'd like to do it, cos I use motion steering on controller so it'd look hilarious. A+S on GT7

[@paulashwin247]

@@mikulitsi1819 Things like oculus mirror can be used to stabilise the image for content. I actually asked some non racing friends which they'd prefer to watch though, with a stabilised and then a raw VR feed, they said raw feed, as it felt more visceral, but milage will definitely vary. I get motion sick playing FPS on a monitor for example! 🤢

[@petedpvlogs]

I don't play racing sims very often, and I'm very much a casual but sometimes it's fun to link my Quest up to the PC, dig out the steering wheel and just blast a car around a Daytona, something that I'm never going to get to do in real life.

[@mtbross100]

The only way to go. Remember the awe of first time driving out of pits at tracks like Spa, Monza, Monaco ,and well, all others. Blew my mind then and still does. I've got to chase down that Riverside track. Went to race there in early 80's.

[@Michael_SK]

I decided to go with VR a couple years ago with the Valve Index. It's a power-hungry direction (and expensive) but it is so worth it. Sure, you can go for ultra wide screens or multiple standard wide screens, but for the immersion, this is where it is. iRacing with the Valve Index is so great, and now I don't have to adjust my FOV or seated position in-sim with any of the cars to have the proper angle to see what I need to see. It's not for everyone, but it's so worth it in order to have an experience with sim racing that you just can't get with screens. Huge con though: It gets TOASTY.

[@JURacing]

Never forget why you are doing all this. Racing should always be fun...and this showed in your video...great one!

[@rossage208]

Yep VR is the only way I race! Tried going back and I can't do it haha

[@astraracing1099]

I use VR for sim racing, highly reccomend the new iRacing rain update!!!

[@117simracing8]

I know it is completly dependend on your hardware, but does the rain bring a big fps drop with it in VR? And how are reflections in the puddles? I still need to test everything. I m in the middle of building my new rig.

[@astraracing1099]

@117simracing8 I've found with my set up that I saw maybe a 5 fps drop. But still the biggest draws on fps are the shadows, cars rendered, and your anisotropic filtering/ AA Samples. There's some really good guides online for setting up VR for iRacing. For refrence, I have a I5 12600k and a Radeon 7800xt. Which they say AMD is worse for VR, but I have no issues.

[@denboogie9199]

​@@astraracing1099somehow I had a completely different experience with the update. I had to reduce the settings quite a bit.

[@markbacani3762]

@@denboogie9199 For VR, SSR (Screen space reflections) being on during rain is the big FPS killer. If you turn it off the rain doesn't seem to hurt performance all that much. Also make sure to take a screen shot of your current settings, and in the iracing UI go into settings -> interface and click Run Graphics Config. Set up your existing settings again and somehow I got much better performance than before. This is recommended in the iRacing forums to run after every major update.

[@rkarlson0083]

Somehow I did not experience and performance hits even when driving in heavy rain

[@bruno_mcd]

The first time I tried sim racing in VR I was blown away. It has been 2 years and I only play in VR, can't enjoy it any other way. It's just too good.

[@Skunktruck]

I took the plunge and got a VR headset a couple weeks ago. I dont think ill ever go back. It really has to be experienced to see the difference.

[@asimpleman2585]

Hey - just curious; which headset did you get? I am considering making the move also.

[@Skunktruck]

I got a Meta Quest 2. Look around, they are going on sale at alot of places. I got mine for $250US. Its great!@@asimpleman2585

[@StubbyPhillips]

@@asimpleman2585 Bigscreen Beyond here. Lovin' it! OLED is the ONLY choice as far as I'm concerned. Life is too short to still be putting up with that ugly gray funk where pure black should be.

[@kemalnot]

@@asimpleman2585quest 3 is pretty good

[@irpk239]

I'm going to get one today. Which one did you get?

[@jodyjo_gd3]

Pros of VR as a user. 1. Insane immersion that feels like I'm in the car. (Tip: lock the horizon as it makes climbing and dropping elevation feel like a roller coaster ride.) 2. Excellent visibility in the corners and in wheel to wheel situations. You have better awareness when following a pack or overtaking traffic. 3. Saves space without having to use huge monitors. Cons: 1. Low battery life for long endurance races when running high graphic settings. 2. Graphics are not as detailed as 4k high hertz triple screens and uses a ton of power from your GPU. ACC struggles with high resolution on VR even with a 4090 GPU! 3. It gets very hot in the headset causing you to sweat and fog up the lenses in the VR. 4. Glasses wearers will need lens protectors to keep from scratching lenses on glasses and VR lenses. 5. Those who struggle to see or have visual impairment like me will need prescription matched VR lenses to see which are $70 to $100 per pair!

[@gitrekt-gudson]

My VR doesn't use batteries, and compared to my glasses, and my PC, and my VR set itself, the $70 prescription lens inserts for my headset were cheap. My headset also never fogs up, even when I get hot, and when I do get hot it's from hours of intense driving. Most sims/games I can max graphics and they look amazing, ACC does need a bit of tweaking in the settings but it still looks amazing. IMO the increase in fidelity of a 4k screen is nullified by the massive reduction in immersion.

[@jodyjo_gd3]

@@gitrekt-gudson What headset are you using? I'm on a Meta Quest 2. The pros and cons listed above have been my experience with this headset. I want to try the G2 Reverb headset as it's a lighter and better overall design.

[@billwiley7216]

@@jodyjo_gd3 Read most peoples reviews and the Meta Quest 3 is a much higher recommended unit over the now old design G2. As far as battery life there are aftermarket head straps with hot swappable batteries and with a couple of battery packs and a charging dock battery power concerns can be a thing of the past. Sure it adds cost but considering the Meta 3 and the aftermarket accessories cost is still a lot cheaper than the cost of three quality monitors plus the stand needed to properly orientate the triple monitors into your system not to mention the added required space which can be an issue for some people.

[@kimjongyummy3562]

Vr was such a game changer, so immersive and way cheaper than a 3 monitor setup

[@BreadPandaTube]

Not only cheaper, but waaay less space required!

[@xnotasweatx]

Once I have money I dream of this

[@RyTrapp0]

That is COMPLETELY dependent on your hardware choices lol

[@freedom_born]

​@@RyTrapp0 Your hardware choice can't offer the same immersive experience as VR. No matter how much you spend

[@jasonhurdlow6607]

You can get 3 32" monitors for a bit over $600 now, so I wouldn't say that cost is a determining factor.

[@Kweeftard]

I can't race without VR, unreal feels!!!

[@moogleslam]

Same. I've tried going back to an ultrawide or triples, but the immersion isn't even close, nor is the ability to judge speed, distance, turn in point, etc.

[@StubbyPhillips]

VR is the difference between _seeing_ the game and _being in it._

[@tktigercat]

Same. No more to say.

[@kylehalter1135]

That's what I mean, I only race in VR, I wish I had a better headset though, only have an original vive, so my resolution is really bad. But regardless, I love the feeling of it.

[@commandantkevin]

I sometimes race with VR. The reason for not playing with it all the time is that I get motion sickness in 30 to 60 minutes and the headset I have does get uncomfortably hot after 45 minutes.

[@bobboberton1841]

I don't race in VR often, but admit most of my fastest times are when I have my headset on. You can just see the road better. However, I like to be able to see my surrounding and be able to press my button box without issues. It can also be cumbersome when trying to setup the game before the race, etc.

[@brettgrieves]

I love VR....I only race in vr. I had an Index first then moved to aero now the big screen beyond.

[@Tiffany_Turbo]

How do you like the Varjo? I am currently on an index that is made of about 20% electrical tape and kragle. Considering upgrading.

[@bdshort]

@@Tiffany_TurboAlso still on the Index. Get occasional flake outs where the screen will go black or it will tell me it’s disconnected when it’s not, and the left earpiece stopped working, so I just use regular headphones with it now. I’m only just getting back into iRacing this season after over a year away from any sort of gaming, though not to the point where I want to upgrade or change any hardware yet - but am still keeping an eye on new headsets and really wish Valve would announce an Index 2 - seems like none of the new headsets match the FOV of the Index, other than the really wide Pimax headsets.

[@Derpynewb]

dont get rid of the varjo immediately. the big screen is a hit or miss for some people. may need to refund it.

[@brettgrieves]

@@Derpynewb sent my beyond back for ipd swap. Their app said 64mm my usual IP is 63.5 on the aero. Big screen have suggested 63mm... Also I think I need the thinner face cushion. My sweet spot is very small roughly 50%. Removing the cushion increasing this dramatically. It feels like a beta product but only because it's a custom made product. I think once I have everything ironed out it will be ok. The aero has some niggles that varjo refuse to fix which really is very disappointing.

[@Derpynewb]

@@brettgrieves a friend of mine had ordered one and it took too long to ship so they cant refund it. its now a litteral paperweight to them. their issue was the lenses are worse than the q3 and that the sweet spot is way too small. got any other tips?

[@grahamgamez]

I absolutely love vr it's the only way I play/stream GT7 now and i even solved the stream/chat issues too

[@DragonFlySlayer-wf6ne]

VR is very important in a sim for me. I currently use TrackIR v5 and even though that's not true VR it's a very cool feature for positioning myself and allowing me to also look around. I only use the car's actual mirrors. It was useful in my Flight sim cockpits, but sim racing cars to me became so much more fun I hung up my wings. But I kept the Head Tracker.

[@MostlyElectrolytes]

Been racing exclusively in VR since the first Rift.

[@DerekMoore82]

Oculus Rift Dev Kit or Consumer Version 1 (CV1)? I'm still on a CV1, and I'm starting to wonder if the newer headsets are better in a way that I should upgrade 🤔

[@EthanolEnthusiast]

​@@DerekMoore82cv1 js trash hurry up and upgrade

[@DerekMoore82]

@@EthanolEnthusiast Can you give me your thoughts on the pros and cons of the available headsets on the market today? I wear glasses and would not want to spend a crazy amount of money. Which one should I get?

[@De-M-oN]

@@DerekMoore82 Currently the Pimax Crystal has the best image quality. But you need a quite bit money for it.

[@De-M-oN]

@@DerekMoore82 oh lol if you see how the Pimax Crystal looks now, you wont trust your eyes and your CV1 would make a flight to the trashbin faster than light 😂

[@supra1jzed]

PiMax DOMINATES the sim racing genre. The FoV and the incredible clarity close AND far is unbeatable. It's 95% as clear as the clearest out there but the clearest have actual potato vision for width.

[@aparker570]

I just can't race without vr anymore,its sooo good,just waiting for le mans ultimate to turn the vr on 🙂👍

[@garytebbenham6843]

A definite purchase once that happens.

[@antjones2281]

Why wait? , turn it on yourself from the command line.

[@Mikeofthenorth1892]

I'm kinda new to VR racing, I was gifted a Acer WMR headset by my bro about 12-18 months ago, but only had a RX580 8gb which was ok for some light racing.. I then started looking at buying a wheel/pedals, and luckily after not much searching found a TS300 locally for £100 (Which I thought was a bargain) I then upgraded to a better Gcard (mid-high end 3series) and since then I try not to play anything driving on VR (EuroTruckSim2,AmericanTruckSim,AutoMobilista2,BMG,F1,etc,etc) It's another world completely! ! ! I'm not great at some of the higher-end stuff but I'm slowly getting there and as a late-40's guy it's as close as I'm ever gonna get to ever racing!! Love you mate!!! Been here from early days and you've always made me want to sim-race.. VR was just a bonus 🥰

[@JakePetrolhead]

Got to be one of my favourite car/track combinations atm, Bazza and the team smashed it out of the park with these. What i would give for an overhaul to AC's AI, to run races of the length these legendary cars deserve.

[@rodrigofernandez4524]

hey what mods is he using? i want to try the combo myself

[@mrctuned2844]

I haven't played GT7 once on a TV since the day PSVR2 came out. Still blows me away

[@MattDiffey]

I've been VR only on sims for a good 5 years or so now and couldn't really go back, but that said I also couldn't justify the space triples would take up. We're pretty far in the trough of disillusionment with the tech, but I still love it. Some day it'll come good 🙏

[@smallbutdeadly931]

It also helps to have some sort of haptic feedback in your seat, really boosts the immersion

[@iRaceVR]

Ive been sim racing in VR for 4 years, and I couldn't imagine going back. I think its ALOT more popular then you think. Especially on the dirt side of iRacing

[@autbo]

Enable 'lock to horizon' if possible. Increases immersion significantly and it can help with your motion sickness if you're prone to it. It keeps your view from tilting and pitching with the car, which mimics the behavior of your real head more closely. Your head isn't attached to the dash of the car irl!

[@zoltronr6]

As a mechanic, working for the Barber SAAB Pro Series, we did a couple of track days at Riverside. Many of us were very sick, by being outside. The air pollution was debilitating. The track, is still epic. Good memory none the less.

[@PLACEonPLATE]

VR for LIFE. I feel people who don't care about VR fall into the following groups: 1. Tried it on inferior equipment (headset/graphics card) and weren't impressed with the older gen graphics. 2. Motion sickness and didn't have the chance to build their VR legs 3. Most of all; people who haven't tried it and think that the image on the monitor is what you see. Everyone who has tried my VR said they expected it to be like a monitor in front of their eyes. Every single time they let out a "Whoaaa, OMG" the first time they are plopped in the seat of their favorite car. I wish more people could try it because it would only get more popular.

[@StubbyPhillips]

The motion sickness thing has turned off far more people than it should have because so many people show VR to newbies with "smooth turn" (continuous pan like a camera) enabled instead of "snap turn" (snaps around more like eyes do.)

[@Falariel455]

@@StubbyPhillips Also a lot of people could develop their motion sickness tolerance really quickly (like ~2 weeks) by using a giant virtual monitor for some time before going to full VR mode. You get used to turning your head in VR and feeling immersed without feeling as much sick when going fast into a corner or crashing.

[@noconsent]

I'd had my VR legs for over a year, and then racing in VR started making me sick. Can't do it anymore.

[@mistaowickkuh6249]

Normal car: "Don't distract the driver!" Jimmy's passenger seat: "Omg dude focus on the road we're gonna die!" "Naaah it's just Nurburgring! So I was making pancakes the other da- oh! The carousel is ahead! Lesgoooo! **deja vu remix intensifies** "

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

The primary issue with VR for recording content specifically is it can lead to motion sickness for the viewer because of the excessive amount of movement on the headset tracking, which is not something that happens in real life when we look at things. You don't notice it with the headset because the screens are in front of your eyes and you are compensating any bouncing naturally. There's also the compromise of doing it, as you can't record both eyes and that results in a skewed view as most software tends to default to the left eye. And if you're streaming, having chat on the game becomes a problem, since it will follow your head around and break immersion.

[@simonjohnade]

I also only race in VR. Can't beat the Immersion factor. Plus, as you showed us all... brings out the kid racer in us. Thanks for the great content. Perhaps you'd put a video up of your AC VR settings and what mods you use? Would love to try recreate this race too. Cheers Jimmy

[@De-M-oN]

Capturing VR is no problem. I made a mask for the right eye and then combined both eyes in OBS, This way you see the center and not just the left side or right side. You can also adjust fov like this But even if people record only the left eye - even then I prefer watching VR recorded videos ANY day over boring flat. For me far better enjoyable to watch. Also when the head is shaking it gives a more realistic feel and the sense of speed raises compared to a full static camera you have on a flat video

[@tzeffsmainchannel]

FOR VR videos, you should make side-by-side recordings; the left video for the left eye, the right video for the right eye. That we can also see on Google Cardboard (or our mobile phones!) what you saw in VR!

[@seancswash]

a sim racing video that isn't iRacing rain. Thank you. Perfect choice of car and track too.

[@steve_ire321]

The Pico 4 is a great little headset for sim racing, because it has a built in fan that actively cools the inside and keeps the lenses from fogging up. Given the choice to play sims, I wouldn't even entertain monitors or TV's anymore. Not when I can do it in VR. GT7 is also an incredible experience on the PSVR2.

[@GameJunky513]

I wont play Iracing without VR. It's just to good.

[@haalra]

i always have so much fun racing in VR for the 6-8minutes it takes be to finish one dirt2 rally stage before immediately taking the headset off because i feel nauseous af

[@olischwarz2912]

Been racing in VR ever since I started sim racing. When I was getting my headset replaced & had to race in 2D I couldn't get within 3 seconds of my times in VR because I just didn't have the same sense of distance, time etc. And fighting hard with other people became pretty impossible. Never going back & always been faster with it. people that say its not as good as 2D have never really tried it. When I jumped into LMU for the first time everything felt so natural (probs bcs of the handling model as well) but I felt so uncomfortable in the car without VR. That's how crazy the difference is.

[@rauschii0745]

There is nothing more immersive then AMS2 in VR

[@garytebbenham6843]

The historical tracks and F1 cars with custom skins are superb and with historical weather too. Just did the 1970 season and can’t wait to race Hunt and Lauda in 78. Can’t be arsed with 2024 😊

[@jakehiggins5118]

AMS2 is so good

[@johnhodgetts6617]

I was about to make the same comment about AMS2. Tried a vintage McLaren F1 car with Pico4 headset. The sense of speed was breathtaking.

[@Oxidan]

Except the jaggy shadows that ruin the immersion for me..

[@gamingdoc81]

Yeah, I agree on that 100%! AMS2 in my opinion offers the best VRsimracing experience so far!

[@drudegio]

I have yet to get into VR, but Jimmy is so right about Assetto Corsa being the most immersive Racing Sim out there. I really hope that gets carried over to the next Assetto Corsa that comes out next year, hopefully.

[@theabsolutedrive]

One of my favorite experiences was driving the Audi R8 LMS Ultra at Sebring in night conditions, in Assetto Corsa. It really is amazing how well this game has held up after 10 years.

[@Scotts_Arcade]

I'm probably one of the fringe that doesn't race using VR at all. I've tried it, and it's ok, but I don't like wearing anything on my head or face. I don't even like the physical feel of my glasses, but I have to wear those to see. ALso, I like looking at my peripherals. I spent a pretty penny on my wheel setup, and the last time I tried VR, i felt 100% disconnected from my rig and gear and threw me off majorly. Also, I feel the price is a point that prevents it from being mainstream. All that said, I have nothing against VR in any way, and for all of you that enjoy it, glad you like it. You have to find ways to enjoy your racing, or flight or what have you. Great video as always Jimmy. Cheers mate.

[@xISparkzy]

vr genuinly feels like im racing a diffrent course go from getting decent times on the touge to being trash agqain in vr lmao

[@SpexFPV]

Got a VR headset specifically for Assetto Corsa VR and absolutely love it. Crashed a few times just admiring scenery 🤣

[@joemay5]

I literally played Dirt Rally 2.0 for the first time in VR and I'll never go back

[@Chader9]

DR2 is such an amazing VR experience! I tried that after fully committing to VR starting in iRacing, and the DR experience is a magnitude better on so many levels.

[@homestar2112]

I’m loving the return to your roots here. It reminds me of the Daytona PC2 video you did in the XJ12. That video alone convinced me to buy PC2 and a Ridt S back in 2020.

[@kpeleent]

simple answer: i would puke all over everything for the next hours, if i would drive in vr. for many people its just not possible, without enduring a very long time of suffering to get used to it.

[@JubbLaRacing]

Sounds like a skill issue. Just simply get used to Vr.

[@spidi500]

@@JubbLaRacing Sounds like another elitist joined the chat, don't you understand that some people have medical conditions that actually don't allow them to get used to it? Where's the respect gone in society nowadays...

[@JubbLaRacing]

@@spidi500 He did not say anything about having a medical condition.

[@spidi500]

@@JubbLaRacing didn't say he had that medical condition though, i own a quest2 myself and i don't have those issues, but i know some that do

[@kpeleent]

@@JubbLaRacing if you do a quick google search, you will find the following: "Roughly one-third of people are highly susceptible to motion sickness, and most of the rest get motion sick under extreme conditions. Around 80% of the general population is susceptible to cases of medium to high motion sickness." I am definitely in the third of the population, that has serious issues with motion sickness. i tried a rollercoaster in VR once, for about 30 seconds maybe and i couldn't walk straight for the next hour. my sense of balance was just fucked completely. it took like 3-4 hours to wear of. so yeah, it's rather common knowledge that MANY people have problems with motion sickness, be it in VR, on boats, trains, cars, or whatever else there is, where it can occure. I really envy people who can drive in VR or even read a book on a train, where i cant even fucking check my phone for longer than 10 seconds without feeling dizzy. there you go, i hope you learned something.

[@ark14700]

With VR, what you see is that you're in the car, the track is a 3D object now, the same visibility issues irl drivers experience, you also experience. It's the next step in sim racing.

[@galaxya7091]

My eyes need more resolution than actual VR

[@jimeththemelancollie351]

I'm not huge into actually doing sim racing and far prefer to watch you do it, but I did give RBR a try in VR and it's unbelievably fun

[@Aari_Plays]

As someone who likes to use vr on racing games i feel violated by the title.. 😂💀 "Nobody?"

[@lucvincentmetz8144]

Reminds me a bit of the racing scenes in the Ford vs Ferrari movie. Nicely done!

[@Kekmit]

Playing sim on a monitor is "okay", but when you put on VR googles and move around inside the car, it just feels unreal. People who never played in VR think you can only move from left to right or up and down, but you can actually move EVERYWHERE inside the car. Don't see the temperature gauge from your seat? Just come closer to the cockpit itself. It's amazing, there's zero lag whatsoever and the image is super crisp in the newest vr headsets.

[@Zascar_88]

I grew up in the pits at Riverside! My parents did SCCA (sports car club of America) races at Riverside in the 70s.... I have a picture of mom changing our of her driving suit after a run in the old Porsche 911! (My prized possession!) 😢😅😂😂❤

[@karloy123]

I only race in VR, now with the Cystal. Once you spend the time getting to tuned, it's the perfect fit for sim racing.

[@Couchtripper]

Watching this now and genuinely enjoying your enthusiasm and skill. This is what I subscribed for, cheers!

[@CaseTheCorvetteMan]

Loads of people use it, it is incredible. Couldn't race without it.

[@Bajomano]

VR is the best way to simulate the experience of being in a racing car, I can also enjoy a good monitor but it's just not the same at all. Looking forward for Valve to release it's next VR Headset so I can guve some peace to my HP Reveeb G2.

[@dukedub]

Started using vr in November and i haven’t raced without it since, it’s that good with a sim wheel

[@thirdimpact172]

im a student pilot and use VR simming for keeping my scan up to speed in a 172, and for all full fidelity flight simming in DCS or MSFS, and with those 3 dimension or combat it makes a huge difference. i just recently got into sim racing with Assetto Corsa and DiRT 2.0 in VR, and that stuff is great! but i did just set up a triple monitor for some forza horizon, and that works just as well. i think with driving, with how much our vision is focused straight ahead, and how much information you get from the wheel feedback and whats right in front of you, you really just dont need the VR HMD for much other than immersion value. and in some cases the VR is going to lower resolution and quality so thats a factor as well.

[@alanprihoda7772]

Endurance racing in VR since 2020! Love it, still need a propper button box so I'm not hunting down my keyboard blind at 150mph. The lack of RL awareness when in VR is a drawback but willing to overlook it freely for the pure immersion and freedom to look around.

[@Riddle99-v7q]

Got a VR headset recently and gotta say at first it was kind of weird to adjust to from 2D. I was missing my apexes constantly etc but after i got used to it my lap times have never been so good. Feeling the car and what it's doing is so much easier and i don't actually run that much force feedback in VR.

[@arkadyromanov7803]

I have to say the video you made is very watchable. The head movement isn't bad at all. The only criticism I'd give is the aspect ratio feels a bit stretched. I think it's one of those things that would suck to watch live (the movement would be much more difficult and you can't edit around it) and would probably be harder for you to manage (watching and dealing with stream stuff and chat), but probably something that would be good to see more of in your curated videos. E.g. your Nurburgring laps, or any of your rally content etc.

[@Arburich]

I use my Varjo exclusively for iRacing / AC / DCS /etc. I found it hard to render / stream my headset FOV but I found a small secret. Set your recording to 2560x1440p, but set your recording / streaming canvas to 1920x1080p. Then you place the canvas on the top right of the Varjo's recording screen, and it makes for a MUCH better FOV experience for a desktop viewer. The biggest downside is the obvious "but now my recording is 1080p", but at least the FOV is narrow enough that it doesn't stretch the screen! That being said, I hecking LOVE the Varjo, I'm really glad I got it at $900, worth every penny with all its crazy features.

[@RealSweetTom]

I didn't realise it was already a thing. I've said for years that VR is built for a racing rig since you don't have to get up and walk anywhere.

[@JoeLocastro]

I used to think I'd switch between flat and VR for iRacing...but nope! No room or interest in a monitor rig when I have a working VR headset. Incredibly immersive.

[@Mr.B.Fontain]

My first VR sim racing experience was my last one. Playstation 4 with PSVR in Gran Turismo, and it was beautiful. My first lap was to be in Brand's Hatch. I left the start/finish line and had this overwhelming feel of immersion and the thrill of being in a race car! I made it through the first turn, hit the bottom of the dip after Paddock Hill Bend, my stomach hit the back of my throat, and then I started the climb up to Druids and my stomach hit my feet, and I paused the game to take the headset off. I did NOT adjust to VR well. I decided to wait to try it again until I had a better VR set. I think PSVR2 and GT7 will be my next attempt. I don't have the money or space to run a VR headset on my PC currently. Which is a shame because I run super modded Assetto Corsa as well. Can't wait to try it, though.

[@boosted0079]

I couldn't go back to using my TV screen after getting the VR2 headset. It's the only way I drive in GT7. But to be real, it's the cost. Although it cost us all quite a bit for a sim wheel set-up and a cockpit chair, but most VR systems cost quite a bit.

[@02stampede]

I raced in VR for a while. Ended up going back to triples for the comfort and being able to see all my buttons etc.

[@TheGeekZone]

I saw a poll on reddit the other day asking people what format they use. VR won by a long shot. I was surprised. But VR is way more popular than you would think.

[@NickParks]

I've been Sim racing for a few years and was always sceptical about VR having never tried it - I purchased a 2nd hand HP Reverb V2 on the recommendation of a friend - tried ACC (my normal SIM of choice) and it was ok, a bit buggy and left me a bit underwhelmed - I then tried iRacing and - WOW! the VR combined with a semi decent graphics card (3080ti) and the experience with the D-Box system felt so realistic!

[@kma6667]

I have VR but Triple screens are more immersive because of the peripheral viewing.

[@gitrekt-gudson]

My sim time is exclusively done in VR, and my VR time is exclusively for sim racing/drifting. I've done sim driving for over 10 years, and when I moved to VR a few years ago I was instantly able to go faster just because I felt more connection to the car due to depth perception, was instantly more consistent hitting apexes and more confident in my proximity to other cars.

[@stephanelouvet1113]

Since I started VR, I can't go back to 2D. I was sick at the beginning but the sickness slowly disappear. The only drawback is you no longer see your preferred Alcantara wheel.

[@kenzo5596]

i remember going around the old le mans track in the GT40 in the middle of the night and it was raining in vr god it felt so real

[@garytebbenham6843]

Great video and I’m with you with your passion. Having to lean over your cockpit so that you can see your rear mirrors in a Lotus 78 is something you can’t replicate on a flat screen.

[@quickford]

I know more than one person who has had their VR repeatedly shut off or disconnect or lose centering during a race etc. I know monitors can turn off or malfunction too, and I'm sure VR is getting more reliable over time, but I still don't trust it to be as rock solid as I would want it to be. That wouldn't be so bad offline, but I mostly play online and if I'm going to invest in it, I would want to use it all the time.

[@nozsipa8022]

putting butt kickers on your sim rig , using sim hub and VR is a game changer hell yeah !! do it if you haven't already Jimmer love your work man awesome!

[@therobbiethorpe]

Its nice having my sim rig in a different room from my pc. I use virtual desktop in quest 3 and run usb extension cable to a hub in my other room. Works great even without link cable.

[@houseking9211]

2:32 god that sounds good

[@EXLDayzeSRS]

I only race is VR for many reasons.. The main one being the fact that I'm racing for the experience, exactly what you showed in this video.. Immersion is the main purpose.. You'll only catch me racing on a monitor if the game doesn't support VR

[@SiQuemaCuhh]

Once they switch the headsets from 2 separate optics to single full warped corner screen (like 3 Tv setup) to help with FOV then VR will be used by all. VR right now is like looking through the lenses of a virtual world as opposed to be submerged into like a scuba mask.