Fixing the RB's weakest link! (new issues..)

[@joelucas6601]

*LIKE THIS SO OUR BOY JIMBO CAN SEE* The big thin washer that was behind the old crank timing gear, (obviously this car has had a timing belt done previously as this is installed incorrectly..) it's supposed to go back on AFTER the gear/belt and held against the gear by the crank pulley damper, making it impossible for the belt to walk further than the edge of the pulley, I've seen and experienced this exact problem with other engines, the washer should have a slight chamfer/angled edge on the outside that points towards the crank pulley damper when installed. The only other thing it could be is one of the new idler/tensioners are spaced out a hair more but if it is enough to make it walk off the gears you would be able to see this fairly easily looking at the motor side on

[@joshfullbright7678]

that may be true, but his trigger wheel would make that washer useless, although I guess it should be removed completely then?

[@joeladzim1225]

And what about those random knock sounds? Kinda more worried abt that than the belt ngl

[@dr.dodrugs8963]

I think you’re right, I just commented the same thing and realized you said it already lol it’s the only thing I can think of that wouldn’t be noticeable right away

[@meangreenrt7608]

- you’re 100% correct. I’ve done the timing belt on my z32 many times and when I put the crank pulley and everything on, turned the engine to see if it’s all straight, I had the same issue as Jimbo. Then I noticed I forgot I had that big washer that goes behind the crank gear. The chamfer/curled edge is to guide the belt to the center. For his issue, I believe the belt is touching and moving towards the oil pump cover as it turns. Hopefully he reads this.

[@tonymattisson6158]

I bump this at it seems possible to be the problem.

[@LuminaryCo]

When DJ said "it's runnable bent" it killed me 😂😂

[@glocklesnar713]

Hell yeah brother

[@antp3403]

Its ah good day

[@rbshit1]

RB run bearings

[@cenasmaradas5952]

Top

[@nicholasdesilva2522]

Late. But the belt would of never came off my rb25 belt hasn't came off yet...running for 2 years on edge

[@zoropesa]

"something spins, you loctite it" alright jimmy. im gonna go out and red loctite my lug nuts

[@JimmyOakes]

Smart ass 😤🤣

[@zoropesa]

@@JimmyOakes hahaha just had to say it!

[@dmbworks8094]

oh shit, i did that last the i rotated the air in my tires

[@kimdotnet8151]

damn im gonna go loctite my steering wheel

[@adanarnason]

exactly what i was thinking when he said that

[@ady-bdavid1173]

I feel like Jimmy's videos need to be longer... I can't get enough of this man's content!

[@jameswilson864]

Same same

[@timmyminton7774]

Same longer videos would be good jimmy knows his stuff

[@BCDegens]

That washer goes on the opposite side to hold the belt from walking all you did was space it out even more.

[@NITSUD89]

Jimmy... READ THIS PLEASE!!

[@13bROT8N]

There are 2 washers on rb engines. Flat one and one with a curve on the edge. Flat one behind curved infront.

[@excitingstuff420]

Damn I miss seeing Brian more in the videos.

[@zacharyguajardo9960]

Okay so I wasn't the only one missing him too LOL 😂😂😂

[@802Garage]

@@zacharyguajardo9960 We all miss Brian.

[@nissanskyline4892]

pretty sure he doesn't like the lime light n just wants to be an ordinary cool dude without random dudes telling him that they're soul mates 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jameswilson864]

Love B

[@vee950]

@@nissanskyline4892 😄👍🏾exactly thats gay

[@BrokePremiere]

Who else can say they never miss an episode Jimmy puts out? I feel like I watch his episodes more then my OWN!! Haha 😂 Love the content Jimmy you truly motivate the heck out of me!

[@jameswilson864]

Been solid watchin every video for 2 years

[@phenoxs]

Pretty sure you’re missing a washer that goes on the crank to keep the belt aligned. Not savvy with these engines but I’ve built and changed out plenty of Honda engines that utilizes washers on belt driven engines.

[@BrokePremiere]

OMG! Imagine! That's all he needs! I've been down those rabbit holes with my builds, 3 weeks and tons of cursing just to feel like a total ash from one "GOD DANG MOTHER FRICKEN WASHER" lol. Ahh I hope he see's this comment.

[@phenoxs]

@@BrokePremiere lol, yeah as he was messing around with this. I thought to myself I wish these videos were live so we can help and trouble shoot problems lol. Would of saved a lot of head ache for ole jimmy 😅

[@jasonveto2320]

I dont think that new kit has room for that on the outside anymore. Perhaps he was supposed to eliminate the washer behind as well? Couldn't tell from the footage if that stayed on for the install, but it looked kinda banged up just before he installed the new kit.

[@alexinnes402]

I literally can't wait to hear this properly

[@benggazi]

U can wait an u will

[@austin012579]

The hype is real

[@adamfcs1131]

What, an RB? Man, must be a boring life.

[@MoonKillify]

did you try flipping the belt to see if it walks the other way. just to be shore its the belt

[@KasamS]

I was thinking that aswell

[@kendallwilliams9808]

timing marks wouldnt line up. not a mirror image.

[@KasamS]

@@kendallwilliams9808 timing marks on the belt are irrelevant as land as the cams and crank march with their mark on the engine

[@j.harker8311]

I think it's safe to say b isn't getting his torque wrench back ever 😂

[@wheels808]

maybe jimbo gave him some cash for it :D

[@kylew6147]

Don't worry Jimmy, I won't ruin the crank on my RB25 that I don't have. 🤙😂

[@TheGoodMedicine]

"RB weakest link" 2j guys be like which one? oiling ? oiling return? trigger ? headgasket? rocker arm? the whole motor?

[@negativeindustrial]

Exactly what I was thinking and I’m a 3S-GTE guy. You forgot the weak nose on the crank though 😉

[@jarradwalsh6829]

Twin Cam RBs dont have rocker arms. Oil pump engagement drive and oil return are really the only big issues and can be fixed cheap.

[@samthesr20man]

@@jarradwalsh6829 yeah they have stupid shim buckets instead, wait till he start popping those lol

[@MsDamjan94]

Tommy and his Chinese belts... 🤦‍♂️

[@r0bkills]

like the coil saga lol

[@samthesr20man]

That thing will dildo his engine

[@MsDamjan94]

@@samthesr20man 😂😂😂

[@anarchydirector]

If it hits the valves we'll have a "bad time" He makes jokes without even noticing

[@jbg6961]

You should have gone with the purple hks belt 😂

[@villelipponen923]

I see you had S14 Kouki tail lights on the shelve, mods already rolling in.

[@klorden240sx8]

Just walked inside from doing my timing on my rb to watch you do the timing on yours!

[@klorden240sx8]

Update just watched you say don’t impact you’re crank pully I ugga dugga that fucking thing on😶😂

[@TheSumoWaffle]

Tell @tommyfyeah you want your money back lmao

[@coledunkley4535]

Did u try flipping the belt ?

[@jayyeahnope4306]

Call Tommy and see if Josh has ever seen this issue

[@716tg3]

“ cam and crank trigger kit “ why did that sound funny to me lol🤷🏽‍♂️✌🏽

[@BubbaJ6758]

Anyone else working on their car today too?

[@scroooge22]

Nah fam it's 2 degrees outside.

[@CookieEaterGamingMinecraft]

@@scroooge22 fax

[@BubbaJ6758]

Literally just had to pull my starter out in about foot of snow of course the only day it would go lol

[@negativeindustrial]

Pulling the turbo on my MR2T. Time for an upgrade before springtime. It was 70*f in Texas today.

[@nissanskyline4892]

so you go against your gut... finally cave to peer pressure, and prove RBs are shit! 😂 shit luck my friend they're cool when they work. hope you suss it out without too much loss of sleep man🤙

[@moggys13]

Hey jimmy, i had the same problem with my rb25. It was because i forgot to put one of the whasers on the bottom crank gear. It looks like you cant use the front one because of your new trigger gear.

[@zerohourdrift]

Hit up Kevin Lawrence! He knows these motors pretty well, helped Adam build his, might be able to help you figure out what’s wrong!

[@crazychivez]

Raw brokerage too

[@ontariofishing1790]

Wonder if it was them zip ties you had around the belt when installing the crank trigger kit caused the belt issue

[@aljdm8600]

I like the attention to detail but when you make videos please make them more specific but you really do a good job

[@James-sir]

Luv it when you go to Tommy’s Fyeah Spec Factory

[@mysterygozosk8er]

And thats why jimmy didn't want to mess with RB's 😂😂

[@the_JDM_fanatic]

Definitely sounded like the belt dude.... I don't think you could have distorted the belt.. What was the problem?

[@andreblair6512]

The good ol' HKS cough suggestion 👌🏽

[@suffiiee]

It looks like you are missing the timing belt guide plate, thats why your timing belt comes off. Common issue.

[@BrokePremiere]

Woah, is this real? Or are you messing around? Just want to know for future builds.

[@chasefroning]

God damn mercury retrograde bullshit. My civic got rodnock...

[@BrokePremiere]

I just burst out laughing literally. This was priceless. Sorry about the rodnock. But man this comment caught me off guard. Ahhh my sides hurt.

[@velyokukov]

Jimmy, i think that the belt problem is from you undoing the bolts on the exhaust cam, while the belt was under tension. When you put the bolts back in and tightened them, they weren't torqued the same and that makes that cam gear crooked which is making the belt walk

[@rsvpjcp6569]

Notification gang where you at

[@excitingstuff420]

I was here last night. Where were you?

[@rsvpjcp6569]

@@excitingstuff420 being broke and not being a patreon partner

[@minzahhh1]

If Tommy sells it too you it's not going too be perfect 😂 he doesn't sell his perfect stuff lol

[@FirstLast-bi8xi]

I'm guessing we're talking about the engine itself.

[@billybreor2574]

This is gonna sound dumb but could you of tried flipping the belt around the other way

[@BrokePremiere]

not so dumb, quite a few asked the same thing. I think it's be find. There's not like directional cuts on them or anything.

[@bigmastertyrone]

Sorry jimmy you just got jugged n finessed

[@WhiteysWiring]

Sucks about that rod knock :(

[@yusufdawood1426]

I feel you pain. The entire day I was under my Mk1 golf. The engin mount broke apart. Sucks. And tried changing the coil pack again but still nothing then found I had no fuel pressure so I changed the the fuel pump. And now it's dark..... I need a garage

[@emersonreed9834]

Aye jimmy, I just sat through 2 one minute ads and didn’t skip. Now let’s see that E36 get some action

[@jameswilson864]

It does need some love

[@jamesearljohns548]

If it’s the belt it’s due to being made incorrectly, you didn’t have it tight for long enough to distort the belt

[@Coupe4l]

I had walking on my rb25 s2, it was because there was a plate behind the crank gear that holds the belt from coming forward, and a there is supposed to be a plate infront of the gear it's a plate for the crank gear to hold the belt from coming off !!!FRONT PLATE! FOR CRANK GEAR! IS WHAT YOUR MISSING, THERE IS A BACK PLATE AND FRONT PLATE TO HOLD THE BELT FROM WALKING OFF

[@brandontization]

The belt noise is fine and you didn't put the belt guide washer in

[@BrokePremiere]

I hope he sees this.

[@isaactezza]

Jimmy's law 1, the time you estimated to finish your project, multiply it by pi (3.142) Jimmy's law 2, whatever that moves, torque them to spec. Yes it's weird but it helps in the long run Jimmy's Law 3, to be determined.....

[@travdajet]

Jimmy you gotta come see me at Lebanon Ford Performance! Get you a 2021 F-150! We do supercharged truck builds as well and can do as much or as little as you’d like!

[@inzinity]

Well ya 1 thumb is a nice measurement. Its also called an inch, the with of an average thumb :)

[@Boostedbenji_]

Jimmy why do you got a LS motor in the corner of the shop.....? And the purple 240?.........

[@ItAintJustPaint]

Timing belt whine, and walking forward are BOTH signs of it being tensions too tight.

[@rokenbok101]

Brooooo im glad im not the only one who went through this kinda pain, but man that 33 is sexy as all hell dude congrats. I recently finished reassembling my ej255 with rebuilt heads and other goodies aswell as a fresh Gates timing kit with a kevlar belt. Well one of my variable oil controlled cams jumped 1 tooth advanced with no explanation. Could watch my left and right variable intake cam system fight eachother on the datalogger. Theyd be fine and out of nowhere one cam would be at 20° the other at 40°. Reset the timing, started it, same shit. Tore it back down, re timed it again! Spun it over by hand several times, everything checked out. Put back together again, same shit. Ordered a different kit, this one having nothing but OEM bearings, Mitsuboshi belt and even a waterpump to boot. Tore all the gates crap off, followed the service manual, bled tensioner (hydraulic auto adjusting), re assembled amd rechecked the timing and even had other eyes verify it aswell just to be sure. Started it, didnt even run a full fan heat cycle let alone get past 180°F before a heavy misfire occurred and i just shut it down cleaned shop and just slept. Did some research, got a general idea what the problem is, but man dude the anxiety throughout this endeavor has been brutal.

[@dannyr3346]

The belt is carbon kevlar reinforced.. No way you stretched it. Probably just defective.

[@morenokid12]

How come nissonda isn't getting skunk or downstar you nissan bias lol, jk... Serious nissonda is like your most complete build , I want to see all the mistakes & process to get that phat booty drifting again ... You don't gotta build and shelf your cars ... RACE THEM JIMMY BOY !!! + More nissonda plz, I love that stupid car

[@Josh-db8rf]

I was doing a timing belt on my 01 tundra with the 2uz v8 and so I had the cams aligned but just by me working around in the engine bay the driver side cam was a tiny bit off so I went to move it back with a Rachet and all of a sudden the cam turned 90° to the left while I was turning it back to the right to tdc. Fuckin scared me so bad cause I'd didnt know what happened and I thought I fucked my valves up. The valve springs probably put off so much pressure that it over came the gears in the rachet and turned or something. Anyway I careful set it back to tdc after and went to change out my underwear while I watched your vids lol. Truck runs fine now so thank God I didn't fuck em up

[@johntreloar8203]

Great video, but I've learnt 1 thing about my Rb25det, if it's not broken don't fix it...

[@NITSUD89]

Should of just put the old belt back on and verified it was or wasnt the belt... Cause it is probably that washer you used on the crank gear... Take it out!!

[@Notsohotboiz]

How tight did you put those zip ties on the belt? Maybe that’s got something to do with it??? 🤷🏼‍♂️ best of luck ❤️

[@pkuudsk9927]

Don't guess anymore ! Get a 4ft straight edge and check all the pullies alignment . I use a 4 ft drywall square. Found many things wrong that way

[@paddij1993]

Hey Jimmy, I am an avid Hoonigan supporter as well, but you should only promote JimmyO apparel!

[@tadejpolak1448]

i dont think you ower tight .....so yust a abd belt , and what is that knocking sound ..... otherwise a clean build , hope you get it running soon :D wish you all the luck , and manny menny HP :D

[@gateaccess818]

timing belts handle ass loads of torque as that is what links you pistons to your valves.. be very very very hard to stretch or deform just from tightening underdrive pulley,

[@mmarchmonte88]

Nissan tensioner studs are typically a consumable item when doing the timing belt service otherwise they tend to snap. You need more friends used to VGs when working on non-SR Nissan motors lol

[@xsduprwd3937]

The belt was to tight, with the noise it was making. But I doubt its damaged, I'd say the replacement won't change much.

[@MRTuning704]

Yeah I had the same problem There’s a washer that aligns Sabelle bell if it’s forgotten the belt will slide off and jump timing What happened to my boys 300z and the rb in my buddy’s 240

[@gateaccess818]

your idler pulleys have built in spacers to keep pulley under the belt, this spacer has a flat edge that meets the block. THAT is what determins if your idler pulley is sitting square to the block or if it sits crooked causing a belt to walk.. place idler pulley on level surface, then use a level on face of pulley to see if face of pulley is level with your mating surface. this will tell you if your pulley spacer is causing idler pulley to sit crooked. the bolt itself dosent have to be perfectly straight, again as the pulley spacer itself is what keeps the pulley square to the block.. check your idler pulley spacers are squared.

[@Mando_9833]

Thank you all for keepin a smile on my face even through getting the rough news in the hospital💚

[@peteranderson479]

My rb20 had a washer an it’s concaved The and the round side goes towards the belt the sharp side stops the belt from hitting the cam cover

[@dr.dodrugs8963]

Is there supposed to be a shim behind the belt drive gear?? I’d imagine if it was too far towards the crankcase it would try to walk outwards on the cam gears no?

[@tristanmclennan2276]

Can’t help but stare at the VS6 on the purple 240 in the background 👀

[@Isnick549]

There’s a guard that’s supposed to cover the crank gear n the belt like the 2jz it helps the belt from walking or touching the plastic guards

[@joewilson413]

Check the crank part is all the way on. I had this problem before

[@BrokePremiere]

Wait like the pulley?

[@joewilson413]

@@BrokePremiere the part the belt is on. The cog on the crank..

[@BarbWaltersMusic]

This is proof why James never fucked with RB's

[@patobo_hammer]

Jimmy the crank that washer on the inside should be on the outside to keep the belt from walking and you have it on the inside of the crank sprocket put it on the outside

[@phinkss]

That’s how my timing belt sounds lol. Shop said it’ll stretch out after a while and go away

[@Slinqiee]

Do rbs have hydro lifters it sounds just like my old 3000gt lifters

[@Ardendy]

Washers are in the wrong order on the tensioner or the belt guides on the crank

[@7112productions]

Tommy tried to Dildo jummys rb25 ;) lol jks sometimes cars are pains.

[@Hedgehog7999]

If the belt is the issue, can't you run it the other way and if it walks toward the engine its 100% the belt?

[@davidthomas7424]

Some belts make noise i have a dayco uprated belt it makes noise on warm up then goes silent my mate has hks purple belt and it does the same thing i think genuine belts are silent but they are all good for 100 thousand miles easy did my research on this subject

[@fazehardcore_3472]

You have no idea how comforting it is to know that other people have tons of dumb issues that pile up for no reason on them when they’re working on a project.

[@baltazard133T]

Ummmm wouldn't logic dictate that if the belt was stretched on one side but not the other you could put it on the timing system the opposite way and it would walk back onto the pulleys instead of off of them

[@andrew13131]

Welcome to the RB life of misfiring and timing belt whine!

[@lukejohannesen9289]

You're missing the washer that goes on the crank pully thst helps keep the belt aligned.

[@MoistSnek]

If you want to see if bolt is bent or even a driveshaft, then put another bolt to it or driveshaft that is straight, you wont be able to tell with anything that is square like a ruler, trust me.

[@EqualVent]

Using a notoriously wobbly Chuck to check to see if something is bent hmm

[@joegermaine4208]

Brian “ just put it together and rev it ti 9000” 😂😂😂😂

[@lozmoss9913]

Just the fact in the last video everyone talked about the belt ... spoiler alert

[@jeraldhite9744]

How about the cam pulleys or spacing on the tensioner?

[@trill_boii_gabe]

Should try flopping the belt and see if it walks inwards

[@amberweaver8913]

Missing the conical washer in the tensioner is why the belt is walking..

[@Darkfaderalert]

Are you having sputtering issues on the rb? Cus my rb20 is

[@LackOfAWittyName]

Look at Jimmy breaking out the torque wrench. Definitely one of the jobs you DON'T want to get wrong

[@BrokePremiere]

lol right! Cut too, "yeah idk whats wrong, maybe a belt?" lol I hope he gets it figured out.

[@josephalexander7642]

Should’ve left the 20e in it they’re reliable af and bullet proof

[@226sickology]

Honestly 2jz is better period but chassie is so sick

[@onelowvdub]

You heard it here first .Jimmy said his RB is a snowflake