Pass the word along. I wish someone told me about this a few decades ago!!
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@BayAreaDrone Жыл бұрын
Although I'm from Japan, I never knew about JIS. Thank you for this great information. It turns out that some of the Fujifilm's camera gears are using these JIS screws.
@dualsportdiary1150 Жыл бұрын
That is very interesting and shows exactly what I was trying to convey as far as this is a little known thing that we should have known. Thank you for that input. Also thank you for watching.
@BayAreaDrone Жыл бұрын
@@dualsportdiary1150 For sure! I appreciate simple short clips like this to teach us what exactly I needed to know!
@TheTW112 жыл бұрын
I've spent the last 25 years working as a service engineer on jaoanese kit. A no.1 and No.2 Philips worked fine on everything. Then I found out about JIS screws and yes, all of our machines have screws with that dot on them. So I ordered some JIS screwdrivers. Really good information. Thanks.
@dualsportdiary11502 жыл бұрын
I'm very glad I could help. Once you use the JIS you will notice the difference. Gone are the days of pushing the screwdriver into the screw. These just "bite" so good.
@heathershores26623 жыл бұрын
My husband didn't know that until 14 years ago when he became a truck driver, lol, he wished he had learned when he was young😊 sooooo many stripped screws! Awesome to pass along, Brian!👍🤟✌🏍💨💨
@dualsportdiary11503 жыл бұрын
I wished I had learned that when I was young also. I feel like I've been robbed my entire life 🤣 Thanks for the support!
@jitrapornpha5104 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful thank you. Despite being abandoned in theory 2008 a lot of Japanese electronics use JIS screws
@dualsportdiary1150 Жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I'm glad to be of any help. Spread the word.
@vikingnorm6935 Жыл бұрын
Love Vessel screwdrivers, I use them almost exclusively now, for EVERYTHING
@dualsportdiary1150 Жыл бұрын
Can't beat it. Stick with what works.
@not1au Жыл бұрын
For someone at a motorcycle shop to not know what kind of screws are used on some motorcycles is amazing. Makes you wonder how knowledgeable they are when it comes to working on bikes.
@dualsportdiary1150 Жыл бұрын
Seriously! You summed that up pretty good.
@ClovisPoint5 ай бұрын
bit like Harley shops that dont know how to fix a Harley .................................................
@321-Gone Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this short concise video I had to share.
@dualsportdiary1150 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir. Please share and spread the word, not necessarily the video but even word of mouth among people you know. We all should know this information. It's not as mainstream as it should be.
@whatfreedom7 Жыл бұрын
I never knew about the dot. I’ll have to look for that next time.
@dualsportdiary1150 Жыл бұрын
Spread the knowledge. Thanks for watching.
@garygullikson63498 ай бұрын
I once lost my mind trying to remove a water pump from a 60's Honda car. Apparently, the hex head bolts were a different size and shape from standard metric bolts. I have read that JIS cross-head has been changed or abandoned by Japan in 2008, apparently the new standard is "JIS/Phillips" compatible.
@dualsportdiary11507 ай бұрын
That's interesting info. Thanks for sharing that.
@leerjet182 ай бұрын
When I learned about this a few years ago I asked my snap on dealer about them, never heard of them. Unbelievable!
@dualsportdiary115027 күн бұрын
@@leerjet18 yeah it's crazy how many people do not know about it. Especially the mainstream ones that are in the industry that should know this information.
@rfarevalo Жыл бұрын
KLEIN 14 in 1 multibit screwdriver model# 32304 includes a JIS #2 bit for bicycles, Japanese electronics, computers, lab instrumentation, etc. At this point in time everyone should be knowledgable about JIS fasteners. I mean the Japanese have been making stuff for decades and exporting them to the USA.
@dualsportdiary1150 Жыл бұрын
That's good info. I was not aware KLEIN offered that. Thanks for sharing and bringing helpful information to the table.
@Getman433 жыл бұрын
Thats very neat to know! Thanks for sharing! I showed my dad, and he was also surprised! Thanks once again!
@dualsportdiary11503 жыл бұрын
I was surprised too. Google it, you'll see lots about it. Pretty crazy huh? Pass it on bro. Tell everyone for as long as you live. It's amazing we never knew this!
@EasyRiderGreg3 жыл бұрын
I learned that back when I was a teenager. The JIS actually grips better than Phillips. It's not something that is common knowlage. If you get certified by the Japanese car manufacturs or the motorcycle repair technition course in the Arizona junior colleges they teach this.
@dualsportdiary11503 жыл бұрын
I wish I learned as a teenager. I wish someone in my life would have passed that knowledge on to me at some point. You are legit the first person that I've heard say they knew about it. It's definitely not common knowledge and it should be.
@EasyRiderGreg3 жыл бұрын
@@dualsportdiary1150 I leaned the hard way when I was trying to remove a stuck screw from my Honda CT 55 and messed it up. The guy that worked on them on the Navy base in Alaska where I lived told me they were not the same and showed me the screw drivers under a magnifying glass. At that time though you could not just go out and buy them. He had ordered them from Japan and paid what was a lot of money for screw drivers at the time. I later made a set in metal shop in high school in CA cause they still weren't available to just buy.
@dualsportdiary11503 жыл бұрын
@@EasyRiderGreg they still aren't readily available. With the internet nowadays you can get them on ebay or Amazon. These tips (MUCH cheaper than the full screwdriver) were special order. But I couldn't just go buy them and bring them home. I didn't mention but I did read that you can grind down the tip of a phillips and it will help a lot. That screw in this video that was all chewed up already, I tried to take it out with a phillips and it wasn't budging, just kept slipping and popping out. Hit it with the JIS and it came out instantly like it was a brand new screw in perfect condition. You can literally feel how perfectly it bites into the screw and takes it out effortlessly. Thanks for your comments and experience Greg!! MUCH appreciated Sir.
@garygullikson63498 ай бұрын
@@dualsportdiary1150 It helps to use a JIS screwdriver with a solid shank, with end to hammer on, before you attempt to remove a screw/bolt.
@littlereptilian7580 Жыл бұрын
I Wish i knew that 15 years ago and countless Carburettor bowl screws ......
@dualsportdiary1150 Жыл бұрын
Yes!! Absolutely. Even some jet kits come with replacement Allen head screws because "the old screws always strip out because they are old and seized ". Come to find out even they don't know or failed to tell us about JIS screws. Thanks for watching and have a great day. Go get yourself some JIS screwdrivers and make your life easier. I've even noticed on halfway stripped screws the JIS will still get a good bite in the head of the screw and take it out.
@littlereptilian7580 Жыл бұрын
@@dualsportdiary1150 i just ordered some JIS bits and an Impact screwdriver. Its time to work like a professional :p .
@richardhayter39192 жыл бұрын
I worked for Bahco/Sandvik for 10 years as a hand tool salesman selling to trade and wholesale, in that time do you know how many times I was asked for a JIS scewdriver ? Zero times ! Another boring fact, Im a keen racing cyclist using Japanese components which, surprise surprise use JIS screws for deraileur adjustmets, when I asked a VERY well know USA made bicycle tool manufacturer for a JIS screwdriver the reply was , Whats one of those ? So if you check the small alloy adjuster screws on Shimano gears they are all rounded out becuase everyone, included shop mechanics use PH or PZ drivers ! Boring facts for the day over and out ! Oh yeah, I do have a JIS screwdriver ;-)
@dualsportdiary11502 жыл бұрын
That's actually extremely interesting and just goes to show how little is known about JIS screws. I have no idea why it's such a mystery?
@bulldogsandlife2 жыл бұрын
Wish I knew about this 15 years ago, I stripped out all 4 IAC valve screws, now Im screwed and gonna go to find them in town ( which is on Kauai, Hawaii) so may be a lil difficult, :) thanks for vids
@dualsportdiary11502 жыл бұрын
I wish I knew about this decades ago! I'm glad it helps, this should be common knowledge for us but for some reason it seems to be a little known thing. All I can say is tell as many people about it as you can. Have a great one!
@OZARKSHDRIDERS3 жыл бұрын
Hey I learned something new today who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks 😂😂 👊🏼😎
@dualsportdiary11503 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool huh? I cut out so many examples of JIS screws in my garage and low and behold roughly half were stripped out!! Also check "skillz" comment and my reply in the comment section!! Take care, thanks for watching Sir.
@OZARKSHDRIDERS3 жыл бұрын
@@dualsportdiary1150 yeah I've stripped a few screws in my day, I never even though to look for any markings on the damn screw, I always just looked to see if it was a phillips or a flat head, cool stuff brother 👊🏼😎
@MotoFamMayhem3 жыл бұрын
Great information.... Keep it up Brian!!!! 👊😎
@dualsportdiary11503 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir. Gotta share what we learn. Thanks for stopping by. Can't wait for some ride video from you both when the weather let's up. Until then I'm loving the ski vids!!
@filtertheblood Жыл бұрын
dang.. how did i not know about the dot thing.. ty
@dualsportdiary1150 Жыл бұрын
Crazy huh? We should have been taught this at a young age. Why is it such a hidden secret to us?
@shockingguy4 ай бұрын
OK I’ve seen those marks and now I know the rest of the story ha ha ha awesome teaching moment thanks
@dualsportdiary11504 ай бұрын
We learned way too late in life haha. Thanks for watching.
@shockingguy4 ай бұрын
@@dualsportdiary1150 I’ve done crazy looking at different research on this a few times and then after I just watched this Video from a guy in the UK about all the rest of the different Fastener heads up pretty good taking all the other stuff out there
Yep, never heard of this. Thank you for the info. 👍
@dualsportdiary11503 жыл бұрын
Got to pass on what we learn. Thanks for watching!
@rfarevalo Жыл бұрын
Japanese culture and trades will not accept a fastener that cams out. They desire the ability to set the specific torque in a country that believes you do the job right or don't do it all. So the JIS fastener allow you to set the specific torque in a country that measures everything with precision. Surprised the Swiss, Belgians or Germans didn't do it too.
@dualsportdiary1150 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely true and I agree 100%
@gerardtrigo380 Жыл бұрын
Very good info. Thanks.
@dualsportdiary1150 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir. Glad I could help.
@mt18853 жыл бұрын
VESSAL makes some GREAT ones VESSEL MEGADORA IMPACTA Screwdriver (8 PCS SET) can get off amazon
@dualsportdiary11503 жыл бұрын
Thanks for adding that info. The Motion Pro ones in the video were the cheapest I found anywhere and they were local to me (Chaparral Motorsports) but for someone that uses Amazon, that is good info. Especially when shipping speed is a concern.
@AnthonyDibiaseIdeas6 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@dualsportdiary11506 ай бұрын
You're very welcome.
@williamwalter4992 Жыл бұрын
I learned this after I stripped out half my screws on my 70s Yamaha and a friend told me I used the wrong screwdriver
@dualsportdiary1150 Жыл бұрын
Live and learn. It's good info that absolutely should be more widely known. Thanks for watching.
@eaf272 жыл бұрын
I keep griping at my co-worker about this because he doesn't believe me and ruins not only the screw but my bits too. But he's also that guy that puts the #2 bit in everything and claims it works fine.
@dualsportdiary11502 жыл бұрын
Ah, he seems very interesting 🤣
@ClovisPoint5 ай бұрын
50 years later now I know ugggg
@dualsportdiary11505 ай бұрын
It's insane we went all our life without knowing this. Thanks for watching.
@kevinroark581510 ай бұрын
It's really important
@dualsportdiary115010 ай бұрын
Absolutely. It makes a difference for sure.
@mt18853 жыл бұрын
*JIS* is the only way to go others will came out on the phillips makes a HUGE difference and the VESSAL ones are the BEST
@dualsportdiary11503 жыл бұрын
It does make a huge difference. I wish I heard about this info when I was young.
@mt18853 жыл бұрын
@@dualsportdiary1150 Agree - worked at Yamaha/Kawasaki shop for about 8+ years as a mechanic back in the 'day' and always had 'cam out'. Before the Internet - in the mid to late 90's early 2000s'
@dualsportdiary11503 жыл бұрын
@@mt1885 amazing. A Harley guy in the comments knew about this as a teenager. But the guy at the parts counter with many years experience with Japanese dirt bikes and also many years of selling tools and parts had no clue what these were. It just shows how scattered and inconsistent this extremely important information is.
@garygullikson63498 ай бұрын
@@dualsportdiary1150 I wonder why Japan used different cross-head patterns than standard metric and inch standard fasteners and why motorcycle and other vehicle paperwork did not warn about this?
@adollarshort15736 ай бұрын
Very informative video. Thank you. Just out of curiosity, I have an old craftsman screwdriver that came with a set that says "Reed Prince" on the grip. It looks almost like a #2 phillips. I've never used it. Anyone know anything about these and how they compare to JIS screwdrivers?
@dualsportdiary11506 ай бұрын
That's interesting. A quick search shows it's for wood and boat building. I'll have to look into that some more. Thanks!!
@ehguy3628 Жыл бұрын
On Accident!
@RustyTheBiker3 жыл бұрын
Bonjour guy from the internet!!! Yeah I have rung a bunch of them off in my life and I didn't know why. I always thought they used softer metals.
@dualsportdiary11503 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too. Just thought that was life lol.
@MarzNet256 Жыл бұрын
Cool. Just picked up a 3 piece, 3 sizes JIS bit set from Wiha for 6 bucks.
@dualsportdiary1150 Жыл бұрын
That's a good deal. You will notice a difference.
@ChristianLance.3 жыл бұрын
Hmm interesting, never knew that.
@dualsportdiary11503 жыл бұрын
I wish I knew a long time ago. Run it by your dad, tell him to google it. Once you know this you'll be amazed at how many screw heads strip out on the motorcycles and you just don't really realize it. Now you'll start putting one and one together and notice it more.
@amitghosh6966 Жыл бұрын
Where do the philips #0 , #1 & #2 Screwdrivers used? How to identify correct screws for use with correct Screwdrivers ?
@dualsportdiary1150 Жыл бұрын
Basically I've used looks alone to identify all the Phillips sizes. I just look at them and know which size based off the screw head. I guess it's natural and I have no guide to go off of.
@IndieGuvenc Жыл бұрын
Nice job with jis! Is there a way to figure out if a phillips screw is #1,2,3 instead of putting it in and wiggling it a little? This could be hard when the screw is rusted, stripped, painted etc...
@dualsportdiary1150 Жыл бұрын
To my knowledge, no. I have always gone off sight when looking at #1,2 or 3 Phillips. Thanks for watching.
@IndieGuvenc Жыл бұрын
@@dualsportdiary1150 thanks to you guys on yt I now know the difference between #1,2,3. I notice when using a #2 screw with a #2 Phillips bit the screws seems to strip half the time especially when the screws are soft metal. It seems like the bits are too pointy even tho they’re supposed to fit flush and this makes it strip. This just started happening lately over the past few years. It’s so annoying that I’ve been thinking about using different kinds of screw head that holds better
@calebwilliams4203 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you do much!
@dualsportdiary11503 жыл бұрын
Yep, absolutely!
@petyweestraw7 ай бұрын
lol I have owned my 96 Accord for Yeeeeeeaaaaaarrrrrrrssssss and am yet to strip a screw.
@branned27 күн бұрын
Made in China JIS😂😂
@blankblank23452 жыл бұрын
damnnnn😂 thanks a lot
@larry68hd113 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information.
@dualsportdiary11503 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, just passing on things I learn. Thanks for watching Larry!
@SkillzImakegoodcontentlol3 жыл бұрын
Thats why that Crf250f carb screws are stripped...yes we actually accidentally bought a 250F carb.
@dualsportdiary11503 жыл бұрын
Yes carbs are the number one thing Everyone strips screws on. Actually on the "JD Jet Kit" for the Suzuki Drz400, they actually provide replacement screws with the jetting kit for the float bowl because everyone claims "the screws suck" since they always strip out on everyone. If they used the right tool for the job, maybe they wouldn't have that problem. JD Jet Kits should come with a JIS screwdriver bit instead of replacement screws. Just goes to show how people never knew this all their lives.
@OZARKSHDRIDERS3 жыл бұрын
@@dualsportdiary1150 true that brother 💯
@ingeniousmechanic7 ай бұрын
That's confusing, because sometimes the dot is in the upper right corner, and sometimes it's in the lower left or lower right corner, and occasionally, it'll even be in the upper left? What gives?!?
@dualsportdiary11507 ай бұрын
Beware or cheap knockoffs.
@Supermankev20013 жыл бұрын
Good to know
@dualsportdiary11503 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Thanks for watching Kev. Much appreciated Sir! Ride safe brother.
@sonixcocadventures87912 жыл бұрын
Aren’t they all bolts not screws, or is that an American English thing?
@dualsportdiary11502 жыл бұрын
Eh, in America they are screws to us. Bolts have a hex or Allen head. Anything that has a Philips or Flathead is all lumped into "screws". That's how you get the word "screwdriver" not "bolt driver"
@ashrafkhokhar88342 жыл бұрын
Working on Japanese slr film cameras.you cant use Phillips screwdrivers. You only need proper jis screwdrivers. They are not that expensive to buy.buy proper tools.will last you a lifetime.
@dualsportdiary11502 жыл бұрын
Good information. I thought it was only in automotive and mechanical items. I will start paying attention to electronics as well. Thanks for watching.
@Spanky840210 ай бұрын
I just learned about these a few days ago and I ordered me a screwdriver with a few different sizes. It has 3 double sided bits that go into the weirdest handle I ever seen. It looks like a woman's sex toy. 😅
@dualsportdiary115010 ай бұрын
Oh wow. You got my attention! 🤣
@Spanky840210 ай бұрын
@dualsportdiary1150 😆 🤣 😂 Look up Vessel ball drivers and you will see what I am talking about. I took a automotive class in highschool and I went through a carpentry course after highschool, I am so shocked that I just now found out about this. The Vessel screwdrivers have a ball at the end that pops off and it's a very small stubby, for the ratchet one's. They are definitely different.
@Spanky840210 ай бұрын
@dualsportdiary1150 I got the screwdriver in yesterday with a 3 different double sided bits and they really do hold onto phillips screws very solid. My Honda motorcycle actually has these JIS screws, so I am so glad I never tried a phillips yet. My Makita gold bits kinda fits, but the Vessel really holds onto them. Thanks for your video.
@everettware34662 жыл бұрын
Darn, JIS is made in China.
@dualsportdiary11502 жыл бұрын
Everything is made in China nowadays 🤣
@mikewellwood14122 жыл бұрын
Well, the Vessel JIS screwdrivers I got came from Japan (courtesy of Amazon),
@mikewellwood14122 жыл бұрын
I did know about JIS as it happens (but only discovered it last year). Also Pozidriv (popular in the UK esp. for woodscrews and the like). Also Torx. But turns out there are quite a few other standards: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screw_drives