JJ Redick calls out Mad Dog Russo in a fiery First Take debate 🍿

JJ Redick calls out Mad Dog Russo in a fiery First Take debate 🍿
JJ Redick calls out Chris "Mad Dog" Russo in a heated debate on First Take.
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[@practicalworkingpower6829]

“He was being guarded by plumbers and firemen” 😂😂😂😂 JJ is a beast

[@Centure120]

😂😂😂😂

[@sflora951]

came here for this comment. Beat me to it.

[@jaelinbrown3510]

JJ spittin tho😹😹

[@okey7118]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@rohangupte3545]

Finally someone said Mad Dog really says teams in 60s who played against Janitors would beat today’s NBA teams

[@ProfHoff]

JJ always owns the debate stage. Nothing is manufactured or fake. So refreshing to see. Best addition to it in years.

[@jasonj5292]

The entire show is scripted

[@ncb9354]

@@jasonj5292 there’s no way kendrick Perkins would let the scriptwriters embarrass him as bad as he does

[@Amor1990]

@@jasonj5292 Topics are, but not what they say specifically.

[@lordbeerus6182]

Riddick is cool but own every debate is a bit of stretch

[@18_Mikejr]

@@lordbeerus6182 totally agree

[@seanm7575]

“Has Paul ever been first team All-NBA?” -Yes. Four times, and second team five times.

[@beno6496]

Dude even carried New Orleans to RELEVANCY

[@MIMadDogsHC]

@@beno6496 And then underachieved in LA with another star.

[@beno6496]

@@MIMadDogsHC how’s he underachieving when the team just couldn’t stay healthy together and his playoff stats have always been top tier old head

[@MIMadDogsHC]

@@beno6496 There was time when the big 3 in LA were together for the playoffs, it wasn't just him loan wolfing out there. I'm not even putting the Houston underachieving on him, I'm not even putting his wilting in the finals on him last year. But fair or not, just like TMac gets criticized for lack of postseason success, CP3 does as well for not being able to make it out of the second round with a pretty good squad.

[@beno6496]

@@MIMadDogsHC please tell me that time

[@pabl0sauced0]

"I was on the team" JJ wins almost every debate with a cold line🤣

[@carlosateroanalisisr6ydema264]

Facts

[@ShaunYan]

Not just on the team but was a starter

[@Damari90]

@@ShaunYan 🗣

[@hexagonoctogon3140]

Avg 12 points🤦🏾‍♂️

[@dannynhl9441]

@@hexagonoctogon3140 12 more points then I ever would. Not everyone is destined to score 30ppg. Robert Horry got 7 rings for being big shot bob and being clutch when he shot it. Don't mean Horry going to hall of fame but he was part of team for 7 rings and some of his last second shots were the reason. Sucks you and many online always look to troll or be negative about a situation instead of just being a man and being supportive or positive around situations for yourself or others. That's the sad part about society long before social media was a thing. People just jealous and hate for no explanation.

[@023scarter]

“Well he was being guarded by plumbers and firemen” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 this man really mentioned BOB COUSY ?! 😭😭😭

[@Notcleverenough]

Not only that, but tried to say COUSY > CP3 😆😆😆😆

[@023scarter]

@@Notcleverenough this is true trolling if I’ve ever seen it..JJ should’ve just stopped talking after that

[@kynston]

Amazing!

[@CTFinest]

Wow 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@CTFinest]

These NBA players be in they're feelings when it comes to they're friends.

[@jackcall3815]

"Bob Cousy couldn't dribble with his left hand" lmfao im crying

[@SmashKing17]

BoB cousey could easy play this era . Just beacuse your in the beginning of something doesn't mean your not the best. You guys telling me Jerry west wouldn't be knocking 3's in this NBA he was shooting from half court before the 3 point line

[@juice4617]

@@SmashKing17 never not dribbling wit one hand looking down😂

[@kcjones713]

@@SmashKing17 bob not jerry tho bro🤷🏾‍♂️

[@blackmist1981]

@@SmashKing17 maybe Jerry, but not Cousy

[@coliver5729]

@@SmashKing17 Cousy would get laughed out of the G-League.

[@LoganAJoy]

“Bob Cousy couldn’t dribble with his left hand.” -JJ Redick 😂😂

[@seshadhri_s]

It is true though. He wasnt joking.

[@underratedszn6549]

@@seshadhri_s no it isn’t he actually was right handed and learned to shoot and dribble with his left

[@KjapPascua]

If you put cp3 on that era. Maybe he won’t be able as well since he got nobody to study.

[@gills77]

Why am I dyinnnnggg at this statement 🤣🤣🤣 and it's so true watch the videossss

[@MrE_]

@@underratedszn6549 I could probably dribble better with my foot than cousey could dribble with his good hand

[@jp1672]

The face SAS was giving off this entire clip was killing me 🤣🤣🤣

[@ksantosh100]

He was just glad he wasn’t on the receiving end!

[@Actlikemjsmith]

Thank you JJ, they kill me with this prehistoric Bob Cousy talk 😂

[@Notcleverenough]

JJ wasnt having any of this nonsense today 😆 not on a Holy day

[@JackOBee29]

He was being guarded by plumbers and firefighters 🤣🤣

[@skywalker2676]

Bob Cousy gettin cooked by dudes at the park. He had no left hand 💀

[@lesterwhite4631]

I hear u but in the year 5032 no one is gonna hear about Michael Jordan so to each its on

[@BlackedOutDreams]

@@JackOBee29 dont disrespect

[@Nick-sr4fe]

“I was on the team” Debate ends right there

[@KC-uc9zj]

He was on a lot of teams. He probably doesn't even unpack after every trade. Lol!

[@ItsYaBoi888]

Haha true

[@elrifle24]

No. It really doesn’t lol. If anything it shows your inability to debate the topic objectively

[@Nick-sr4fe]

@@elrifle24 yeah it does if you don’t see that then you are as delusional as Mad dog

[@elzrobinson3307]

@@KC-uc9zj he mainly changed teams through free agency....

[@kodi258]

I need a weekly debate with these two

[@PeterParkedHer]

JJ started with “I was on the team…” ended it before it started 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TattletaleStrangler_]

“Bob Cousy couldn’t dribble with his left hand” lmaoooo THANK YOU JJ 🤣🤣

[@okey7118]

😂😂😂

[@michaelbailey702]

Yet was still more impactful in the NBA than a man who could dribble with his left hand, despite you ironically clowning him

[@blackmist1981]

@@michaelbailey702 yea cuz he was playing against other guys who were barely athletes

[@globalevents0]

@@michaelbailey702 Chris Paul would beat him 21-0

[@fastballfilms4214]

@@michaelbailey702 jj would destroy bob in a 1v1 stop it

[@Nappylox71]

That last comment from JJ had me dying 😂

[@derekkeane5152]

hahahhahahahahahahahah

[@johnlebonte3176]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

[@JoeSmithGOAT]

JJ had no actual rebuttal against Cousy making it over WEST & the BIG O 😴

[@sarjoty]

Me too

[@SimplyOneSound]

lmao! me too

[@TheWillibob123]

“He’s not bob cousy” Who says that!!?? 😂😂

[@sman6501]

I think “analysts” and commentators lose their credibility when they show favoritism towards one era of any sport. If you can’t say that Chris Paul is one of the greatest PGs of all time; you don’t know what you’re talking about. A great player is someone that could play in any era of the sport; CP3 has the old school toughness balanced with the modern high percentage shooting ability. It’s either a back in the day argument or recency bias stance. You have to evaluate every factor of competition/rules in each era and take that into consideration. Rules did not benefit scorers in older eras as much as they do now. Sometimes it means records held in those older eras are more impressive, sometimes it doesn’t. There are amazing players in all eras of the NBA - it’s so exhausting that we can’t just appreciate greatness and leave it at that.

[@BoosterGoldEarth6]

Cp3 not top 10

[@bk_nreynolds3278]

@@BoosterGoldEarth6if we’re talking point guards this is an awful take

[@marcusjones4761]

I love the rotating cast they bring in vs. SA but I would also love to see JJ on the show more consistently. He really challenges the old heads during the debates.

[@WBaltimore]

I think he put his podcast first, then these small gigs after. Nevertheless, I agree.

[@trainerrob1622]

Can`t challenge anyone on eras that`s why these debates always end up being two people yelling their opinions at one another. If one person has made up their mind that x era was the best then there`s nothing anyone can say to change that. This conversation here. Bob Cousy changed the game... Curly Neal was just as popular as Cousy at that time and he played with the Globetrotters... Today`s fan and apparently broadcasters don`t realize how big the Globetrotter at that time. They sold out arenas all over the world and Curly was the show. In terms of NBA players it wasn`t until the 70`s when guys like Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Tiny Archibald, etc really started bringing in what today`s fan would recognize as NBA footwork and ball handling. Mad Dog is wrong here on many fronts but so is JJ. He said the 80`s which is a few years off. Around the time of the merger is when you can pin point the start of modern NBA basketball and basketball players.

[@NintyPrime]

He should be on for any and all nba debates. Period.

[@holden6104]

Stephen A doesn't want to be challenged. That's why this show sucks now.

[@Michael-vn2jj]

@@holden6104 This is why Russo is on the show. He says Skip Bayless caliber takes that Stephen A can go on raging rants about, they just trying to recreate the old days. With Max it was way too much logic and takes with reason behind them. Stephen A wants this "Cousy is better than CP3 and Curry" kind of takes that anybody with half a brain knows is completely ridiculous. Cousy changed game due to era he played in, put Cp# or Curry in his era and they still change the game. Put cousy in todays era and he cant make a G League roster.

[@2dmartin]

The fact that Mad Dog had to ask if CP3 was ever 1st team All-NBA tells me everything I need to know about his NBA knowledge. He’s arguing about topics that he has limited information about, which is a microcosm of the biggest problem of NBA media. (And yes CP3 made 1st team All NBA, 4 times actually)

[@ThirdThinker]

💯

[@damianwayne6816]

Excellent point. I guess its our fault (collectively as viewers) because the networks probably believe "all we want" is drama/entertainment/yelling, and not debate with substance and quality. And I guess their ratings data supports that. So a ton of these opiners can get away without watching stuff in detail.

[@HollandMariahGrossman]

OMG enough of Russo... and ESPN needs more JJ.

[@BlaiseLabs]

Honestly I have to say that I’m impressed by how ESPN is able to adapt makes me wonder what their process is. I feel like I’m being A/B tested but what’s crazy is to actually see this work out. With that said a gross fact error like this completely breaks the immersion.

[@reasedogable]

And second team 5 times

[@richardcranium5801]

"He’s so hard to root for,” Russo commented. “Shut up and play. Will you please? America’s tired of Draymond Green." Speak for yourself and the other dinosaurs, Chris. Draymond is hilarious person and gives zero effs what people think about him. America loves that!

[@nurseypie]

This!

[@michaelrobinson540]

Well he does give a Eff because he addressed it and seemed hurt and out for vengeance. Triggered by a comment that cannot be proven was about race.

[@nurseypie]

@@michaelrobinson540 Explaining one's perspective doesn't mean Draymond gives a f-k about what an old outdated racist thinks. You're being simple-minded.

[@michaelrobinson540]

@@nurseypie Its ridiculous that this guy Mad Dog is being dragged as a possible racist. Hear all the messages on foxx news or newsmax and those are the real undertones.

[@nurseypie]

@@michaelrobinson540Russo engages in microaggressions. Please don't try to police a Black woman on what is or is not racist. And look up the definition of microaggression and tell me how Russo does not engage in it.

[@MrShitcakes69]

JJ and Mad Dog both make for a great show whenever theyre on. Two TOTALLY unique perspectives, good stuff

[@MafiaboysWorld]

"You can't compare pre-1980 with the modern NBA". Spot on JJ. Post-Merger was a different league.

[@ravishingrookrude]

but then says great players can play in any era

[@ryancusimano5892]

Untrue, Wilt and Russell would run circles around the nba today with the way the game is played

[@alexescutia4805]

@@ryancusimano5892 two guys don’t make up the whole league bud

[@reasedogable]

@@ryancusimano5892 yeah right 😂

[@blackout07blue]

Jackie Moon!

[@brandenbrooks8213]

“He was being guarded by plumbers and firemen” lmao

[@michaelspencer9815]

I screamed lol 😂

[@antibrotha]

That was disrespectful and INCORRECT

[@terronwilson647]

Checkmate 🤣🤣

[@jaleelgoines9949]

@@antibrotha if you dropped any top ten players in todays game in that era they would be considered top ten players of all time

[@jaleelgoines9949]

@@antibrotha put jimmy butler in that era and he’s considered an all time great

[@brandonmaryland]

JJ’s last take was a perfect way to end the video he really said fireman and Plumber’s 🚒🛠😂😂😂

[@Wedigele1]

Is the B silent or invisible!!! 🤨 either way I love it

[@brandonmaryland]

@@Wedigele1 auto correct 😂

[@FadeHook23]

@@Wedigele1 the b in plumbers is silent

[@sakimtornado]

i knew it. this was all the way up to the 90s. thats why mj dominated so much.

[@walkingbucket4933]

@@Marian-ng3do JJ's point was more not compare skill. Cousy can get credit is an innovator, but as an actual player it's not even close.

[@dannynhl9441]

I'm 42 years old and not gonna lie JJ has helped me take some of my nostalgic glasses off at times and realize how crazy I've been in the past. So it helps

[@Vondad2004]

“Cousey had 29 assist in a game” “Yeah he was being guarded by firemen and plumbers” 😂😂

[@djstubbs]

Dying at that line!!! Lmao

[@kb4231]

That's stupid 13 year twitter stuff. JJ's better than that.

[@HR-ms6ed]

@@kb4231 it’s the truth

[@Notcleverenough]

@@kb4231 its true though, the 40s-60s role players were known volunteers of the city (firefighters, tradesmen, masons)

[@jamiecamcan8587]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sakthithanigai5036]

Can ESPN just sign JJ for the next decade or so? Ye he doesn’t know much about other sports but he can learn. We as listeners need JJ for bball debates.

[@Nick-sr4fe]

Honestly I would trust JJ with other sports more than the media right now too. JJ would at the very least watch the games

[@b.g.3073]

SAS knows less about other sports. Not much of a difference.

[@jackdiddIey]

Look at Shannon Sharpe; he was in the NFL but look how knowledgeable he is in other sports. Anyone can learn

[@metalcoremania1]

He has his own podcast. This is real life not a video game who knows if JJ wants to be there full time we don’t know any inside information about contracts or anything. Stop asking for another man to do something and just enjoy that he’s doing it since your just a guy behind a keyboard doing nothing.

[@robmckrobmck5567]

I have trouble understanding why JJ Redick feels the need to deny Bob Cousy a place among the all time great guards. The proper perspective regarding the relative greatness of Cousy, CP, Redick, and Curry is their impact on the league. Cousy is the actual point God having created the mold, the blue print for what we call a pure PG today. Cousy was an innovator in running the fastbreak and deceptive passing as well as floor general, distributor, facillitator, running a balanced offense. Because of his success in the Celtic dynasty the PG position was defined and proven viable. Names like, Wilkins, Isaiah, Magic, Jackson, GP Stockton, Kidd, CP3 are descendents of the original PG GOAT. These guys built on his legacy. Cousy defined a position and it changed the game. CP3 is a splendid player and arguably reached the pinnacle of the PG position Cousy and Auerbach introduced with Sam Jones as off/shooting gaurd, Redicks position. Cp3 followed in the footsteps. He hasn't innovated or influenced the league playing style. In fact, CP3s failure to win titles has, in part, made him and the pure point gaurd a dinasaur to some degree. The game changing innovator today is Curry. Winning titles by weaponizing the arc as a shoot first PG along with off gaurd Klay Thompson, has changed the course of basketball. Curry is at the top of a lineage of scoring PGs like A.I., Tiny, Frazier, Big O, West, but branches off to be the three pt shoot first PG like Trae, Dame, and Luka that are the new PG. But the legacy of influence left by Cousy with little variation (Magic) going on 50+ years made the little guy integral to the NBA and should not be dismissed

[@djstubbs]

Need more of these segments

[@ThePatman1980]

We need more JJ and Mad, period. This is the first time I've seen them interacting. The newest and two biggest draws. Off-camera, they probably share a lot of laughs. Boomer (1959) vs. Millennial (1984). Good stuff.

[@mccreav]

I wouldn’t consider Russo “new” by any stretch but you’re right more of them is needed

[@NewKingBrandon]

@@mccreav I would speculate that GOAT was referring to Russo as new from the standpoint of a consistent guess on First Take.

[@mkhanman12345]

I like how Americans do this boomer mellenial stuff

[@datsapaddlin6449]

It’s like some dude arguing with his great uncle about sports 😂

[@adingdingdiiing6740]

JJ yes. The other dude, nah.

[@tommysoneill]

My man said he was being guarded by “plumbers and firemen” hahahaha JJ is hands down the best addition to ESPN in years!

[@lanebatts26]

Those plumbers and firemen could prob give modern players a run for their money in toughness

[@shawnrutherford8523]

Jj is a horrible addition. He is so f*cking stupid

[@jaeyoung4233]

@@lanebatts26 what about in skill?

[@endangeredspecies8441]

@@jaeyoung4233 skill doesn’t mean much when your getting locked down. Just ask KD and Kyrie about that.

[@jaeyoung4233]

@@endangeredspecies8441 Boston’s defensively-skilled players won them that series lol

[@nomad_wm]

“He was being guarded by plumbers and firemen” is the best 😂😂😂

[@ND-OPS]

Her after Jerry west savagely destroys JJ lol. I was not expecting the "Firemen and Plumbers" to be said by a professional tv analyst. bro you dont have to disrespect pioneers of the game just to prove your point. JJ your on tv youre not on twitter you cant say silly things like that.

[@TZN86]

"Bob Cousy couldn't dribble with his left hand.." lmao

[@TheBeanBandito]

Bob Cousy 😂😂😂 that’s his argument out of every generational point guard he goes to bob cousey…never change Mad Dog

[@dudsulugulugan7639]

@Raymond Sims Cousy has more accomplishments but CP3 is a better player. But you are measured by accomplishments.

[@Michael-vn2jj]

Mad Dog goes by accomplishments only and not eye test. Anybody who understands basketball will tell you CP3 is a better player than Cousy. That's just beyond obvious. Magic would be a transcendent talent from the 50s-2020s. Same with guys like Curry and CP3, they are just so good at basketball that you drop them into any league era and they are great instantly. Cousy is only great in one era of basketball. He would need to be a completely different player to play in other eras. Jerry West would be great anytime from 50s to now but not Bob Cousy lol.. Cousy is not on Jerry West level, guys like Russo are just spreading misinformation to new generations lol. You want to harp on old school greats, talk about West, Oscar, Bill, Wilt, McAdoo, Kareem.... But when you start preaching Cousy its safe to assume: The person preaching is an old white guy from the east coast. I had a co-worker that was convinced Jerry Rice wasn't best WR ever, its the slow little white dude who played for the packers when there were like 5 teams. Racists refuse to acknowledge that the first to do something isn't the best. In fact more times then not, people get better at things as time goes on.

[@jonb2437]

@@Michael-vn2jj maybe not racist but more like, "We need to make sure the white athlete is not forgotten. There's not enough of us out there today" dude is feeling mad threatened 😂

[@Michael-vn2jj]

@@jonb2437 Thats probably more accurate. I know someone who stopped watching Baseball because "its not americas sport anymore" cause he was triggered that its "just not what it used to be" haha

[@danacdgo]

@@Michael-vn2jj What would Curry do in the 60s without the 3 point line? He would not even be drafted to the league. And with the rules back then any player from today would be turning the ball over every possesion because of palming, side steps, step backs, euro steps...

[@pompelmostique]

God I never knew I'd love a man so much as I love JJ Redick for shutting down horrible takes with facts and class. Thank you sir!

[@pedrobisono747]

they have got to give those two a time slot i love the chemistry between them it would make a great show

[@MattTheDreamer7199]

"Plumbers and firemen." They were making honest livings bacc then.😂

[@QankoIvanov]

No they werent. Only some bench players. I would like to see JJ reddick playing against Baylor Russell or Chamberlain.

[@StephIsColdG]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 JJ funny asf

[@alainlamour5868]

Under 40% from THE FIELD BRUH???? JJ lookin at him like “why is he talking to me?” 😂

[@ohjee5725]

WE NEED TO GET COLDER

[@JarodJoseph]

aSffssdftf

[@beno6496]

@Raymond Sims I mean if I’m facing plumbers with a dominant big like Bill I think I’d have as many rings just playing left bench alone 💀

[@421kno]

Stay cold

[@artv651]

JJ Reddick regrets his words now after The NBA logo spoke out… LMAO!!

[@matty3330]

If kyrie grew up in the 50s he wouldn't be as skilled as he is right now and if bob grew up in the modern era he would be way more skilled. pretty much simple as that

[@ugoeze7360]

J.J: “He was being guarded by plumbers and firemen”. Me:💀.

[@QankoIvanov]

J.J straight up disrespected legends. I would like to see him playing against Wilt Chamberlain let's see who is a plumber now

[@kpaukeaho6180]

@@QankoIvanov dumb comment. Has nothing to do with whether Cousy or Paul is a better PG

[@spirenoir]

As a tar heel fan, I thought I was excited for Vince Carter to get out the league and do commentary but JJ is really killing it 😂🤣

[@Teffy2105]

Once is horrible he’s too nice nice and never says anything that might get you thinking, his points are weak, I can’t listen to Vince.

[@PMKru]

@Canelo "I take Steroids" Alvarez As A Tar Heel Fan I Always Liked JJ Lol

[@davidl242]

People need to stop comparing old timers to today’s generation. Jesse Owens was probably the greatest runner because of the impact he made, but most guys now days can run faster than Owens. Players like Russell and Cousy paved the way for the next generation… that’s a level of greatness, but they can’t play in today’s league.

[@lifeisbutamoment]

Anybody who thinks JJ is even close to Bob Cousy should never be allowed to talk about basketball again. JJ is just salty because he will never be known as a legendary player. Just plain disrespect

[@jakeoberhand3893]

What makes CP3 so great is his ability to play traditional style point guard and make everyone around him better in an era where scoring point guards are coveted

[@ceegreen1899]

When JJ says a fact, it seem so cut throat 🤣🤣 but technically he was really right 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@tonysopranooo1]

Albert Einstein wouldn't even know how to use an iPhone.. does that make u smarter than Einstein?? same logic here.. Cousy was way greater for his time than CP3 is right now

[@Treman198]

@@tonysopranooo1 Your argument is flawed. You’re comparing a “normal” person to a scientific genius. CP3 isn’t a “normal”person. He is in most peoples top 5 PG ever. Plus, Bob Cousy shouldn’t be Einstein when he is vastly overshadowed by other players at the time like Wilt, Bob Petit, Elgin Baylor, Jerry West, and even his own teammate Bill Russell. He wasn’t the pinnacle of the basketball world like Einstein was of science and mathematics. Bob Cousy couldn’t even dribble left-handed and you think CP3 isn’t better?

[@tonysopranooo1]

@@Treman198 if Cousy didn't exist, and others in the 50's didn't exist... CP3 would be looking goofy af dribbling with 1 hand right now... i'm not saying Cousy is better, but he is definitely greater and more accomplished than CP3

[@tonysopranooo1]

@@Treman198 only thing CP3 is top 5 all time in is blowing 2-0 leads in the playoffs lol.

[@sportsnerd100]

@@Treman198 bob cousy was arguably better than jerry west

[@BabylonGateLA]

I wonder 40 years from now when young kids are saying, “That Chris Paul and Steph Curry guy were playing against youtubers and tik tokers” what y’all gonna say LMFAO!

[@rizqirahmad5348]

"don't ever being disrespect to the old guys, they paved the way and made how nba look like todays" and the talk goes on from one generation to the next generation

[@finlayson6868]

Chris Russo’s all time starting 5: Bob Cousey Jerry West Larry Bird Dirk Nowitzki Bill Walton Bench: Steve Nash John Stockton Rick Barry Kevin Michale Rick Smits

[@smoothiej7648]

JJ is the greatest debater I’ve seen. Logical, historian and reasonable. More JJ less Russo.

[@QankoIvanov]

Historian but doesn't know NBA history? Firemen? I would like to see J.J Reddick playing against Wilt Chamberlain or Bill Russell. There are probably atleast 5 players from the 60s better than CP3 - Robertson, Baylor, Barry, Wilt, Bill Russell,Nate Thurmond and others debatable.

[@smoothiej7648]

@@QankoIvanov you do understand he was speaking about the guys Cousy played against? Like the others. Which a lot of those guy weren’t getting paid enough to only play in the NBA/ABA so they literally were firemen, plumber, etc. He has said on numerous occasions his respect for the older players but they aren’t competing with the athletes today. Dudes didn’t even use their left hand. Which is fine for their time but in comparison to today it’s not close. There are a few exceptions to the rule and wily is definitely one of them. Bill russel wouldn’t win anywhere close to the amount he did (11 rings sheesh) with the limited talent and teams back in his day. None of this is meant as disrespect to the OG’s just pointing out the obvious for the most part which is what JJ did.

[@DaMillerBoi]

@@smoothiej7648 facts

[@sumwonpharted8402]

@@QankoIvanov yeah and that’s okay. These old heads make it like the current players are absolutely cheeks compared to the players of the previous eras. Whereas skill wise it’s completely the opposite

[@RobertSaxy]

@@QankoIvanov you’ve been served sir

[@user-jh9tq6rt8d]

“Bob Cousy couldn’t dribble with his left hand”🤣🤣🤣🤣 THATS FACTS😂😂😂😂

[@tonysopranooo1]

Albert Einstein wouldn't even know how to use an iPhone.. does that make u smarter than Einstein?? same logic here.. Cousy was way greater for his time than CP3 is right now

[@user-jh9tq6rt8d]

@@tonysopranooo1 how many teams were in the league back then?

[@RicoRamone09]

@@tonysopranooo1 We talking about basketball bruh he compared CP3 with another PG who can't even shoot or score efficient let alone handle a ball with either hand instead of being one dimensional lmao

[@defer114]

@@tonysopranooo1 That's not really an apt comparison. The real comparison would be comparing Einstein's knowledge of physics to a modern day physicist at the top of his field. Obviously a modern day physicist knows a lot more about how the universe works than Einstein did. They have a lot more information and they're able to expand on Einstein's ideas as well as all the other scientists in the last 70 years. Likewise, CP3 is a much better basketball player than Cousy ever was because there's a lot more infrastructure to become better, a lot more people play, and the game has evolved leaps and bounds in recent decades. That's all Redick was pointing out, which is why he said you can't compare people pre-1980 to the modern game.

[@gobot581]

@@tonysopranooo1 Bob Cousy played in a league where teams where still preferring to have a certain amount of white players irregardless of talent at times. The game was less widespread or popular meaning not known and rarely would receive the best athletes simply to say his Journey wasn’t harder his competition wand more and the more you expand the required skill sets the more those guys get weeded out

[@shakiemjeanjoseph428]

Jerry West responses to JJ Redick’s Comments about “Firemen and Plumbers” and he said the game is changed because they didn’t have Weight Rooms,Personal Trainers,Nutritions,Practice Faculties back then which they have today

[@vinnyv949]

Bob Cousy career: 18.4 PPG, 7.5 APG, 5.2 RPG, 6X Champ, 1X MVP, 13X AS, 8X Assists Leader, 10X 1st Team All-NBA, 2X ASG MVP Chris Paul Career: 18.1 PPG, 9.5 APG, 4.5 RPG, 12X AS, 1X ASG MVP, 4X 1st Team All-NBA, NBA ROY, 5X Assists Leader You Decide……

[@nbagrandpa2656]

Bruh I almost spit out my food from laughing so hard at the end.

[@Justin683]

That plumbers and firemen comment was emotion at that point. CP was JJ’s former teammate and he was not having this Bob Cousy BS

[@-eternall]

Yeah for sure JJ got a little tight at the end lol

[@Christian-eq6pq]

Yeah but it is pretty ludicrous to say CP3 isn’t an all time great because of Cousy. I’m a Celtic fan but Isiah Thomas, Magic Johnson, and even Steph Curry have better resumes.

[@AfonsoHenriques1139]

to much emotion...like females. mad dog is right..history is to be respected not dismissed. ignorant fools are to be called ignorant. go back to school you woke karen.

[@mbuvito]

UNC fan, but I’m glad JJ is on here! When it comes to breaking down players it only makes sense to breakdown eras too. I usually try to keep it “somewhat” simple: 1. 1949-1979 (Pre-Merger) - I know the merger was technically ‘76 but ‘79 is when they brought the 3-point line. - brought the game from the playground to the arena 2. 1980-1999 (Bird/Magic/Jordan) - 5/6 franchises added, modernized game - individual performance more valued, took the game to a global stage 3. 2000-present (Post-Jordan Era) - player empowerment/movement - more skilled individual players - branding, marketing, social media

[@daebak7370]

Excellent summary

[@LeanieSigel]

The plummers and firemen line 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mitchwilliams8747]

give JJ his own show at this point... he too lit!!

[@KillMoeM]

He has his own show lol

[@MastermindRell]

Hold my 🍺 -JJ on his own show

[@lordbeerus6182]

He had his own show go watch it

[@mrlilrip10]

he will have one on espn if people keep commenting about it and he accepted it if they offered it to him. don’t underestimate the power of the people!

[@bxi1547]

@@KillMoeM Nobody watches to see JJ.

[@reggie7408]

Thank You JJ, also CP3 is a 4x First Team All NBA. Russo is a typical old head who hates to give credit to modern day players

[@jameshayse1903]

I totally agree with most of what JJ said, and I think mad dog is an idiot, but I will say, one chip will not put CP3 in the convo for best PG all time, That conversation includes Magic, Steph, and maybe IT, Chris Paul needs at least 2 chips to be there.

[@reggie7408]

@@jameshayse1903 Oh yea I agree with that. The goat PG is unquestionably Magic and there’s nothing cp3 can do to pass Magic, or Steph atp. But everything else JJ said was true

[@fastballfilms4214]

@@jameshayse1903 steph curry above chris paul...LUL me to sleep

[@82dupont]

Isaiah Thomas is the best pure point guard ever and I hated the Pistons but you have to give credit where credit is due.

[@JoeSmithGOAT]

@@fastballfilms4214 LMAO you're the problem if you think Curry ISN'T above Paul 😴 Tell me when Paul ever won an MVP

[@apep06]

More mad dawg and jj on this show immediately we need it🙏🏼

[@xZaaminator]

“He was being guarded by plumbers and firemen” 💀💀💀💀

[@shadowNooob]

First time I’ve seen Stephen A not say anything 💀

[@clownfish92]

bro was befuddled 😭

[@JamesHall_II]

3rd. The 1st was when Mark Cuban got on demon time with Skip & the 2nd was when Richard Sherman did the same thing 🤣🤣🤣

[@alexescutia4805]

@@JamesHall_II ain’t kds mama get him to be quiet too

[@JamesHall_II]

@@alexescutia4805 I’d say no because I believe that he said to her face that KD joining GSW was the weakest move he seen from an all time great

[@daelin9759]

JJ is like the one guy on espn that doesn't speak based on narratives or his own biased opinion he speaks on facts he may give his opinion and you may even disagree with his opinion but 9/10 it's based on reality and common sense and you can tell he actually studies and loves the game espn needs more like him and less people like Stephen A

[@blackout07blue]

Mad Dog is a beast.

[@sportsnerd100]

Tf you mean. Purely narrative when he made the plumbers comment

[@mattesser5027]

Couldn't have said it any better myself. Tons of the clowns on ESPN like SAS just blab about EXCRUCIATING PRESSURE, nothing about actual basketball. JJ, Legler & J Williams have something to say. SAS, KeShaun, Max, Nick Wright, and ofc Drip Baseless ALLLLL worthless. I don't even watch them speak anymore. Notice a trend though. Former players > Media personalities.

[@vladimirdodig6813]

@@sportsnerd100 no he was right

[@sportsnerd100]

@@vladimirdodig6813 he clearly doesnt “love the game” if he talks like that about the legends before him. Kobe loved the game. He had a great appreciation for the greats

[@Tru948]

The look on Stephen a smith face when jj said cousy was guarded by firemen and plumbers is priceless and funny lol

[@austinfigueroa4851]

I would’ve never guessed for a single minute during his career that I would love JJ so much one day 💀

[@drruru15]

Cp3 is buns stop it 😂😂😂😂😂 Pels in 6

[@dmoney51630]

L

[@liamiangaming7931]

Suns in 6.

[@catwearingshades]

Discount Skip Bayless

[@joshhighwind9886]

Lol what? Mad Dog is a legend.

[@Victor-yi6qq]

They always cut the video too early

[@crypto_thug9218]

This 70 year old think bob cousey is better than cp3

[@josephhinton9716]

If you have bob cousey an anime power up… he still couldn’t beat cp3… this is getting ridiculous lmao Cp3 top 5 pg of all time wins a chip there’s a discussion for best ever. He is that dude.

[@tonyh9886]

He was guarded by plumbers and firemen!!! 😂😂😂😂 JJ is a real one!!!!

[@SimplyOneSound]

@Awesome Sauce He didnt bring it up though. Mad dog did. Mad dog was saying Bob is better than Cp3 basically. That's ignorance.

[@DelGTAGrndrs]

@@SimplyOneSound cp3 is above average not transcendental at all

[@tonysopranooo1]

@@SimplyOneSound Albert Einstein wouldn't even know how to use an iPhone.. does that make u smarter than Einstein?? same logic here.. Cousy was way greater for his time than CP3 is right now..

[@elzrobinson3307]

@@DelGTAGrndrs 🤡

[@danacdgo]

@Awesome Sauce not to mention that Kyrie and CP3 would make like 30 turnovers per game in the 60s because there were different rules. People are clowning their dribbling but dont realize that they needed to keep their hand at the top of the ball all the time something like in handball.

[@mleone77]

Cousy was never 1st team OVER Robertson. In Robertson and West's rookie year (60-61), Oscar and Cousy were both 1st team and West didn't make it. The next two years, Oscar and West were 1st team and Cousy was 2nd team. Then, Cousy retired. The idea that Cousy was better than them is bonkers.

[@mananz5877]

Maddog vs Ryan Hollins vs Nick Wright debate would be hilarious 😂

[@josephrodriguez3407]

More JJ! He’s more real than even Richard J or Perkins. He’s 100% REAL

[@aqibrizvi4859]

"Bob Cousy couldn't dribble with his left hand" I'm DEAD

[@gregorywilson2124]

Go watch Bob Cousy highlights. He was an excellent ball handler and floor general.

[@aqibrizvi4859]

@@gregorywilson2124 I'm sure he was. Against plumbers and firemen

[@dylangraham5517]

I’ll be very honest with you, I’m getting tired of all of these “best player of all time”, “best point guard of all time”debates. Yes, Bob Cousy played in a very different era than Chris Paul. Yes, video evidence shows that Cousy didn’t use his left hand as much as the average player today. It’s not a fair comparison.. it just isn’t. Bob Cousy is, without a doubt, a revolutionary player… he defined what the point guard position is.. he’s the pioneer of the point guard position. For the modern era, Chris Paul is possibly the closest thing to that. Many people would say he is a revolutionary player as well (I personally wouldn’t, but I can respect those people that do). Both have had illustrious careers. To compare the two is utterly ridiculous because you can’t blame Bob Cousy for not playing like a modern player.. he didn’t know what the game would be like 60 years from when he played! Bob Cousy is probably in my top 3 favorite point guards ever and I believe he is one of the most transcendent players in NBA history.. I know today if we took 1957 Bob Cousy and dropped him in the NBA today, more than likely he would struggle.. but I guarantee you if we took Chris Paul today and dropped him in the 1950s-1960s with Cousy, he wouldnt necessarily prosper due to the referees being more strict in carrying and traveling and fouling. With today, you can carry the ball 94 feet and it’s legal… people take 4-5 steps all the time when wanting to dunk on a fast break and the referees turn two blind eyes. Also, back then, players were playing in Converse Tennis shoes rather than these high tops and low tops that are custom designed. We can evaluate these players on their era and what they did do and should have done, but comparing eras is always a sore subject and someone always feels disrespected by the other person. Sorry for the long rant, but I hate someone like Bob Cousy getting disrespected because he played in the 1960s era and I hate having a present player like Chris Paul getting disrespected because he is not transcendent. Hope whoever reads this is understanding, open and has a great day :)

[@psychedelicpsychosis6954]

but you also have to be objective. a player with limited skillet vs a player with a much more expansive skillet both in their primes who wins. just run it in your head or think like a player. if you were facing an average Joe from back then your skillet would most likely be more varied since you grew up watching players who could do more with the ball. play against someone who can largely only dribble with one hand. you force him to his weak hand and boom game over. but you also have to be a nuanced thinker. a guy like wilt transcends generations. he's 7'2 benched 600lbs , was as fast as Jordan/LeBron and stronger than Shaq. who in today's league is guarding him in the post? Giannis would probably do the best job on him but even then wilt outmuscles him and has a lethal fade away. so objectively speaking just based on what each player provides skill wise and build wise you can determine who would win a game of one on one without being disrespectful. I know if I faced an average Joe, who could only dribble with one hand and was roughly my height I'm destroying him whether it's 1962 or 2022.

[@DomKickPicks]

I was wondering where the bob cousy vs Chris Paul thing came from lol I seen it on twitter

[@hellstone115]

honestly you gotta love seeing JJ defend his friend and former teammate. Especially after watching the interview he had with him on his podcast

[@jotoshi6172]

“Well he was being guarded by plumbers and firemen” 😂😂😂

[@jayg3189]

Mr. Mad Dog, Chris Paul is a 4 time All NBA First Team member. 2007-2008 season 2011-2012 season 2012-2013 season 2013-2014 season

[@skeeminplot]

“He was being guarded by plumbers and firemen.” 😂 😂

[@ThePatman1980]

Mad is old enough to be JJ's dad. Heck, I'm 1980 and my dad was born 1959. We got people saying Michael Jordan played against plumbers and firemen. In 50 years, they'll say the same thing about LeBron.. 🤣

[@AB1B1]

Lol fax

[@andresdelportillo9917]

Bob cousey played electricians and plumbers

[@focusedchick]

Yep. I remember Nick Wright arguing that Westbrook's numbers in Washington were good because he was the best player among plumber teammates. Instead of arguing real points, remedial analysts say this anytime they want to downplay someone's talent (there are far better ways to argue against Westbrook, like his stat padding). I was disappointed to hear JJ go the plumbers and firemen route. I thought he was better than that. But you're right. This will carry on forever and in a few years younger players/fans will be calling JJ one of the plumbers of this generation.

[@alexescutia4805]

I’m a bron fan but they gonna say “he played against tik tokers and instagrammers

[@Frank_San_Nicolas]

In the film Blue Chips, with Shaq and Penny, Bob Cousy couldn’t miss a free throw in a scene when he was already an old man. JJ is right, it’s hard to compare pre-modern NBA to today but Cousy was a special player regardless.

[@OfficerJakeyPoo]

Chris Paul was do things one on one to bob Cousy that would be considered war crimes

[@Frank_San_Nicolas]

@@OfficerJakeyPoo Maybe. Maybe not.

[@markozbunjol625]

@@OfficerJakeyPoo Cousy is way better then overrated CP3

[@QankoIvanov]

@@OfficerJakeyPoo Adjust eras - Cousy was a better player then than Paul now? Isnt he

[@kpaukeaho6180]

@@QankoIvanov your key phrase there is “adjust eras”

[@AgentWK]

Why do some people take JJ'S comments as disrespectful. He's an NBA analyst for crying out loud and literally speaking the truth. If you get offended by the truth, then thats on you. Thats why many NBA players dont compare eras because some old heads will get offended by what they said which will cause drama

[@user-nc8re4hh4o]

He was been guarded by plumbers and fire men 😂🤣 JJ a Savage

[@onyx9857]

When Cousy played, half the league (4 teams) made the conference finals.

[@QankoIvanov]

Less teams - more talent

[@onyx9857]

@@QankoIvanov AAU teams didn’t exist so the talent pool was very small.

[@ThePatman1980]

It's sad how players continue to load manage and they still get injured! While Jordan had 9 82-game seasons and 11 out of 15 playing over 80. And that was a more physical era where the league didn't protect their players like they do now.

[@jdilla4591]

Guys over train now and basketball is more of a year round sport for all players because the competition is high around the world. Plus these kids have been playing a lot of games since the aau days

[@alexescutia4805]

Jordan also only lasted how many seasons?

[@sulley119]

Didn’t Jordan take two years off in the middle of his career. Talk about load management LMAO

[@justtwizzey2429]

I still watch this clip once a month 😂😂😂😂😂

[@romemakes794]

Lmaooooooo did he say Bob Cousy?!?

[@EdgarCotija]

Get both those guys a show 😂

[@dissaver]

How is Chris Paul better than John Stockton? They both never won a title, Stockton is the all time leader in assists AND steals, and he had more playoff success overall than Paul. And I hate Stockton!

[@KwizMatix]

Facts!!! I don’t think JJ was saying CP3 is the greatest point guard of all time, just saying he needs to be mentioned with them. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@alexescutia4805]

Give cp3 a full career with Malone and see what happens lol

[@angelkila]

He was guarded my plumbers & firemen 😂😂😂😂

[@Basil_Kehoe]

I still can’t believe that JJ said that terrible take. Players back then had a totally different set of rules to play with. Almost everyone today would be called for a carry back then. I hope that he apologized for this terrible and disrespectful take.

[@Zack_410]

You still can't compare the prehistoric era to today

[@chilldoc9638]

Stop, 8 teams back then, you had players averaging 38 and not winning a scoring title, players today are better

[@cyberbron2077]

This is why we compare relative to eras instead of across eras because you always have to sh*t on earlier eras as time goes by. The 90s and 2010s are gonna be seen as overrated in 40 years and people are gonna say Jordan faced plumbers and lebron faced twitch streamers.

[@jimhartt4129]

I worked with the magic and heat and every player always commented how dumb reporters are with their questions and stances. JJ was being respectful of past athletes but telling the truth regarding the advances of the sport and the players (other great players like J. West also couldn't dribble compared to today). JJ is sharp, funny, actually understands basketball, and can put you in the ground with a debate. These guys are idiots for challenging him in anything basketball! He is gold! GOLD!

[@sillygoose635]

it's not them being dumb, it's their questions, they're just doing their jobs. leave em alone and just shut up

[@Zoomyi]

Duke graduate

[@walkingbucket4933]

Exactly. No disrespect. Cp3 is better than Cousy. JJ just doesn't want to make an unfair comparison. 1980s + it's fair, but otherwise respect their accomplishments and leave it @ that.

[@farziran87m6]

Kareem played in 69 to 89. Grew up when russell wilt were on top played against wilt jordan. Won a chip in 88 finals in 89. He was 40 y o in 89 dominating with a skyhook against modern centers. Nobody could stop him. Is ben wallace sjilled? Wallace never dribbled the ball at tge park but his gritt determination iq on d made him a hof player. Your telking me russell couldnt be one of tge greatest defensive forces today. Was rodman skilled? Oakley? These guys were tough but thry had zero handle coukdnt do anything but set picks on offense but they were smart. Kareem was smartest player ever. They asjed him why he always went to the hook. His answer cause nobody knew how to stop it.

[@smokespurp2801]

He really said plumbers n fire fighters 💀💀

[@dakotakearney996]

My guy said he was being guarded by plumbers and fireman.😂😂

[@christophergooding9820]

Also Chris Paul was first team 4 times, including 3 times in a row, with harder competition and more competition. The best year of Paul's career was better than Cousy's best year. Tell me which is more impressive, beating 08 KG in MVP voting or beating 57 Pettit in MVP voting? I think we all know.

[@johnchoi4473]

Hold up 08 was kobe mvp year.

[@christophergooding9820]

@@johnchoi4473 and? I would've said he beat kobe and kg to get the mvp if he had won it

[@johnchoi4473]

@@christophergooding9820 you jist cherry picking that part so jist stating it. All in all i do agree that cp3 is top 5 all time. Curry is number 3. He bout to be #2 with one final mvp.

[@christophergooding9820]

@@johnchoi4473 I wouldn't say it's cherrypicking but okay. What PG is above Curry for you for current number 2?

[@johnchoi4473]

@@christophergooding9820 IT

[@tashrif46]

1:53 JJ, don't be that disrespectful. To say players are plumbers and firemen is very disrespectful to the history of the game of basketball.

[@kareja316]

maybe you should go and learn some history of the nba, in the 50s the league was mostly a part time job and they used to have another job like plumbers and fireman. hes not lying

[@tashrif46]

@@kareja316 Or maybe don't belittle the players of the 50s and try insinuate that they had little to no skills because they had part-time jobs as the NBA salaries were not what it is today. Don't be so thick.

[@hiphopesq]

@@tashrif46 lf you have a full time job, and it’s isn’t basketball, you can’t guard ANY players in today’s NBA on a regular basis. That’s not disrespect, it’s facts.

[@tashrif46]

@@hiphopesq thats not the point though. Today's players don't have that burden because the previous generations made sure they can make a living just by playing basketball. To be that blatantly disrespectful is just wrong.

[@walkingbucket4933]

@@tashrif46 It's not disrespectful. His rebuttal was on the *skill* of the players, which deserves no respect because it wasn't very high. Russo is the one who tried to compare their ability. He was just telling the truth. High school kids play very hard, and it's admirable and all, but they just aren't that good. That's just how it is.

[@johnnymyers20]

JJ came with all the smoke today 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dmailaddress25]

He left no smoke at home. Gave em every bit!

[@lucaskoza1993]

I love Mad Dog! He just cracks me up and I love the looks on Stephen A. & Molly's faces when he goes way back in time 😂😂😂

[@scrap7768]

He's biased on older white athletes who simply aren't as good

[@raisethejollyrodger1110]

@@scrap7768 older athletes in general not just white

[@alllivesmatter3561]

@@scrap7768 take that race card bs elsewhere. 🤡

[@mackenzieyoung5306]

“He’s not bob cousy”😂😂😂😂😂

[@69xMetalheadx]

Mad Dogg is the Jim Cornette of the NBA

[@Gabe_Lopez]

Ironically enough Jim Cornette hates Vince Russo with a passion and you compare him to another Russo