The Differences Between Brad Stevens, Ime Udoka and Joe Mazzulla | Grant Williams and JJ Redick

[@Lavitz2011]

Brad Steven was one hell of a coach. The series between him and Nick Nurse in the bubble was crazy good coaching

[@theena]

That was an incredible series. Basketball chess.

[@AbelAraya]

There's a video of that series in the Thinking Basketball youtube page that analyzes this series in great detail. Amazing back and forth coaching decisions from both Nurse and Stevens.

[@redqstudios]

brad stevens is 100% one of elite basketball minds amongst nba coaches, but for the celtics XO's was never the problem or talent for that matter. Which is why on paper, they've always been crazy stacked. The issues has always been managing egos amongst young and up and coming stars, inexperience etc. From my limited understanding of that situation, brad never seemed to be the type of guy to manage relationships or be the lead voice of the team. But his players knew he was a genius, so they had no problems strictly with his game planning/strategy. But it's clear that Ime demanded far more stage presence and was an excellent emotional leader. Both of course were critical for the teams development though. Brad is still in the org in the front office. so it's not like he has no impact on anything when he switched positions with danny ainge.

[@lebronjamesharden3958]

has he won a championship?

[@ryanjones9585]

Mazzula catching polite strays, left, right and center

[@SmkeDatKush]

Rockets got themselves a leader. Straight killer out there on the sidelines. He’s gonna mold these young bucks man I can’t wait to see how Houston develops. They gonna catch a lot of teams sleeping this year.

[@mikes8863]

Houston jus gonna get STDs from IME! hide yo wife hide yo children IME UDOKA on the prowl

[@randoH3000]

They might even catch Ime sleeping again

[@Thebackendhugo3229]

Especially for Jabari and Amen. Those two will turn into stars under Ime.

[@SmkeDatKush]

@@randoH3000 😭😭

[@tinobrown1780]

The interpretation of what he’s saying: Joe Mazzulla doesn’t know how to make in game adjustments. I honestly think if Udoka was still the coach this past year, the C’s woulda won the chip.

[@DualityUnlimited]

As a Laker fan I agree with you. Miami was a weird Team of Destiny Pretender. The C’s could have built on their success of last season. I the the Celtics vs Nuggets would have been a better matchup. I also think learning how to process In Game management is a crucial skillet that comes from experience. I think it truly comes from playoff experience when coaching is seemingly most needed.

[@AaronBrown2015]

I love what Grant said about Ime allowing players to have a voice. That’s great coaching.

[@leseanwalston7916]

Tatum/Brown haters completely ignore the fact these dudes been to ALL these Conference Finals with MULTIPLE different coaches and systems... Just imagine if THEY had a solidified coach all these years like the Nuggets,Heat,etc.🤦🏿‍♂️

[@michaelahurt]

Wouldn't have mattered Young players don't win in the NBA. Especially for wings. At the highest level games are decided on a razor's edge and experience is just too important in the decision making process. But I do agree the Brown/Tatum hate is over done considering what they have accomplished to date That said, I'll still argue they don't make each other better. It's like Russ and KD. Their games just aren't complimentary the way Murray and Jokic or Steph/Dray/Klay are.

[@leseanwalston7916]

@@michaelahurt Bruh I think folks gotta stop this EXTRA PARTICULAR narratives are so dumb lol so you telling me,, if Tatum & Brown can win *2 more games* ,,, THAT would mean they "work together" just as good as Jokic and Murray who went ONE Conference Final before this year???? What exactly is the *litmus test* for these narratives🤔🤔

[@tadah21]

I agree that's a lot of changes these guys are young to have played so many high pressured games. They get mgmt and coaching right Cs could be a problem next several years

[@derek-182]

@@leseanwalston7916 winning a ring is the litmus test, and it isn't as simple as 2 extra games. if it was that simple, they would have done it. in my opinion, a finals appearance and consistent top-4 finishes shouldn't be degraded and called a failure, and the whole championship or bust angle is something that isn't really seen in other sports. however, jaylen brown isn't exactly worth $304m

[@willmarinac5201]

Complimentary pair from Raptors were multiples Kawhi with Lowry or Serge Ibaka or Spicy P Incredible Team Chemistry got them 3 Road Wins in Oakland

[@tadah21]

Ime staff followed him to Houston after being fired and dragged in media and internet says alot how none of the player's trashed him and were upset he was canned. Houston might be decent next season

[@d.rock2224]

They followed him to Houston because they were all his friends that he brought into the league from obscurity.

[@King_BeeF]

Glade Ime is in Houston. Gets a chance to lead and build the team in his image

[@natedogg890]

Just don't introduce him to your girl

[@euro51116]

@@natedogg890😂😂😂

[@TOKYO9AIN]

Jalen green still gon be trash segun and parker y’all beat chance and Amen

[@jayr2981]

@@natedogg890your girl probably already got his on him

[@natedogg890]

@@jayr2981 Lol nope, I'm not worried until I come home and find leftover jollof rice in the fridge XD

[@majormomo3466]

Mazulla isn’t ready for the front seat yet, it showed big time in post season

[@Jboooog18]

He's ready, got some experience now. He has his own staff, we gotta see what happened this year. For everything that happened before the season, getting thrown into that and going to game 7 of ecf, didn't do a bad job

[@avthecool129]

@@Jboooog18he would’ve brought them back to the finals had Tatum not blown out his ankle

[@dylangamache4950]

Grant sounds just like Druski trying to be serious

[@itsELL24]

😂

[@iramroj9788]

Him and mazulla hated each other 😂😂😂

[@iversen1109]

Bring on "Afunkydiabetic"! It would be a crazy podcast!!! Your NBA Knowledge with his, and yours intelligence would be crazy interesting!

[@auntiez4917]

Ime played and worked for Popovich. Enough said...

[@patbres1205]

Honestly I’m worried Bc Ime got most of his staff to leave which might have caused more problems

[@camdenfitz7397]

That staff has been replaced by solid assistants and past Celtics champions…good energy an chemistry added

[@realrx001]

@@camdenfitz7397can you see mazzula filling udokas shoes locker room wise? I try but I can’t

[@d.rock2224]

The staff left because they were Ime's friends that he brought into the league out of nowhere. The Celtics added assistants with actual NBA experience.

[@supascrape2916]

​@d.rock2224 call it what you want. That group got them over the hump. After Ime left, the team got stuck on the same things. Back to square one.

[@d.rock2224]

@@supascrape2916 Tatum gets hurt in game 7 against Miami in 2022 and that group doesn't get over the hump, same as this group.

[@nazdalaan]

As a CELTICS fan you will be missed. Tough dude

[@avthecool129]

Indeed

[@SadfoxGuyver]

Coaching makes the difference. He would have won it all this year

[@deykno87]

Cap

[@taetrrtot6205]

*Could

[@mrwesmess6715]

No way they weren't mentally tough enough. Even with a good coach, they're not tough enough. And now they gave the max to jaylen brown

[@Killerqueen2000]

​@@mrwesmess6715not really mental. It's playstyle. Whenever they go full iso they lose

[@DanE72321]

@@Killerqueen2000it is mental because the C’s play super arrogant, lackadaisical and even lazy at times because they think they don’t need to give full effort at times. Very entitled team

[@grospipo20]

The Celtics are going to regret letting Udoka go!

[@smoothsavage2870]

Just like the Nets did. But at least Joe Mazulla had coaching experience, unlike Nash.

[@jenkinsmanly-spain1252]

They should regret how they handled the situation

[@AaronBrown2015]

The Ime Udoka firing has me thinking that Boston will miss their window in winning a ring and Tatum and Brown will be broken up. I don’t think Joe is the right coach to lead this team to a championship.

[@StellarSports]

Rockets gonna surprise a lot of y’all this year trust me 🤫

[@lavell.simpkins]

Yeah, Joe made lemonade out of lemons. Considering he took over 5 days before camp.

[@brocktherock17robertson2]

i am telling y’all rn ime is gonna win COTY bc how well the rockets are gonna look next year.

[@MsCF98]

I don't think so given the scandal he was allowed to coach in Houston so he would be quickly forgotten.

[@ijustyap]

Ime is gonna do a damn good job in Houston man

[@brocktherock17robertson2]

he is gonna win coach of the year i am tellin u

[@Rajonrondoo99]

Wow Tatum and grant both saying ime was the best… we fucked up losing ime I miss him sooooo much. There’s just something about mazulla Hes not motivating

[@1977Kingsolomon]

He very diplomatically showed why there was a dropoff this year. Ime for sure wins the East, possibly the whole thing.

[@diegobromfield]

They'd have won the whole thing. The Warriors might have been the only team that could stop them again but obviously the Warriors had a trash year due to numerous reasons so the Celtics would have won it all. I was a huge fan of their 2022 team and then I remember seeing the first few games they played this past season and later in the season & was like... "what the heck is this?" Playing all guards + Horford and jacking up 3s all the time. Plus Tatum basically abandoning his midrange game. Not to mention lazy defending. Yet it was the same team. They cost themselves a title when they fired him.

[@iamerection39]

Hell no, they're not beating Denver even if Ime stayed. Boston fans are delusional LOL

[@BLee09]

They had the perimeter players to slow down tatum and brown. There's nobody on that team stopping jokic.

[@diegobromfield]

@@FilledWithDetermination Dude based on what we've been told over and over and over and over again with emphasis. He and the woman had a concensual relationship. He didn't just go and get himself fired. Two grownass adults with major roles in the organization had an affair & the Celtics decided to let him specifically walk. A suspension should have been enough based on the news on what happened.

[@IamDoomed15]

​@@iamerection39Serbians / chicken nuggets fans delusional and cocky asf after beating 3 play- in teams in the playoffs🗿🗿🗿🗿

[@garrett1282]

Prayers up for Bronny James 😢🙏

[@gradymckinney7306]

Heart attack?

[@juice4617]

Prayers up

[@kbuford_03]

Another Dunker Spot EP please 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@jacobwestfield3164]

He basically said we would of won with ime lol

[@hkk4699]

I think suspending Ime for the whole season really prevented the Celtics from winning a chip last season. L move

[@nickpillow5692]

Preach

[@supascrape2916]

Absolutely

[@keepscrolling6042]

don't know if they could've beaten denver and their size, but they would've put up a fight.

[@duecehunchos673]

Grant is a cool dude glad he’s with my Mavs now

[@melanatedgod5337]

I have the same comment lol.

[@DannyXXXXX]

He was exactly what we were missing in the line up. Wish we would trade a 1st for Buddy Hield

[@d.rock2224]

Its so funny to me how everyone forgets that Ime's Celtics had the same exact problems as Joe's Celtics. Lack of mental toughness, lack of maturity, and lack of discipline in end-of-game situations. Ime's Celtics crapped away just as many games in the playoffs, jacked up almost the same amount of 3's per game in the playoff, and got stagnant offensively at the end of games, giving away leads.

[@supascrape2916]

You're not paying attention.

[@d.rock2224]

@@supascrape2916 lol of course I am, you just wanna scapegoat Joe instead of blame the players like we should be doing.

[@alwynlouis4371]

Grant is a smart guy, he majored in engineering

[@melanatedgod5337]

Glad he's with my Mavs now!!!

[@drilostrespect1140]

Does he play in Boston anymore? Lol

[@lordemed1]

Getting rid of Ime was a big mistake. Why couldn't he have simply apologized, and then everyone move on?

[@blindpew412]

Even a player from the freaking roster acknowledges it but some reason it’s just “too far fetched” for people that just maybe a guy with only 2 years of assistant coaching (from the back row no less) isn’t at the same experience level as guys who were just in the finals and been in multiple ECF 🤔

[@nashselsam9934]

The IME hype is crazy for a guy who couldn’t even keep his job for multiply seasons. Not everyone is responsible enough to be a Head coach

[@Zatora11]

shaddup

[@jenkinsmanly-spain1252]

He didnt get fired for being bad at his job, he was actually in a small club of coaches who made the finals in their first year of coaching.

[@cparksaffluent]

“I think last year was I didn’t wanna mess anything up”… Well, he did…

[@lk6762]

Brad Stevens was a great coach..and Smart enough to know the players relate more to Ime better than himself.thats a strength. Ime to be honest ,was the perfect coach out of the 3 of them until he selfishness got in the way .But that's part of it .he has to own that.sorry today because I thought he was a great coach other than that just like I'm a great father but other than I cheat on your mother....makes him a lesser coach sorry it does. On Mazzula,I have been the biggest critic.but now you have to give the man his due.he was put in an impossible situation and he won the title in 2 years.the guy proved he's a great coach period.

[@kristynormandin1001]

I’m curious to see how Joe handles things this year and how players respond.

[@gkniffen]

I don't know how you can be considered a "leader" when you get fired for f'in a married subordinate... 🙄

[@ifareaged]

Let's be real here, Brad wasn't a great coach, he was good but not great.

[@somerandomguy84]

Elite defensive coach. Somewhat average offensively outside out timeout plays.

[@Whyypreeeeeeeeee]

Honestly Brad Stevens is the best out of all three, he just wasn't a strong enough personality

[@ethanfay6091]

No he was just white so he didn’t get respect from the young guys. Hence JB and JT pushing him out. Stevens did better with IT as first option than JB and JT

[@majormomo3466]

So then he wasn’t best of all three lol. Personality is huge part of coaching

[@Whyypreeeeeeeeee]

@@majormomo3466 was Nick nurse a better coach than Dwayne Casey because he won the chip ? No. It's about situations and how your team is structured. Brad has made multiple conference finals before Tatum got there and with brown being 3rd option at time's.

@@Whyypreeeeeeeeee Even Jayson Tatum blatantly (and Marcus and Jaylen more diplomatically) picked Ime over Brad and Joe. But sure, let's take your word for it.

[@luvcyrus5991]

Nick was better. Casey was overrated. He had the same plays over and over. Lowry and DeRozan gets a screen from the top and Lowry would shoot a 3 or dero would get to the mid or the paint for contact. Or either one would dish out to a shooter or to JV in the paint. Casey had Detroit any they haven't gotten better. I believe you give Nick, Brad ,Ime, kerr, that team would at least be getting better every year Casey had that team

[@Opochtli]

Utah jazz da best

[@gamingwithcabezon]

YALL HAVE TO PLAY DEFENSE YALL “ professionals” !!!

[@badlandz215]

So Ime, Brad and Joe in that order. Every Celtics fan would agree

[@luvcyrus5991]

I think players would say that. But Brad was the better coach. He just has other ambitions to not stay coaching long enough. He had difficult players. JT and JB were puppies still learning what they can do and what needs to be done. They still young. Brad had to coach those young guys with big personalities of Rondo and Kyrie and the issue of his relationship with Hayward and Hayward injuries. It's a lot. I think Brad given the team Ime and Muzzallo had they'd be in the finals more than once and possibly won

[@Youralwayswhining4367]

​@@luvcyrus5991definitely... More experience makes all the difference.

[@3piecespicycards930]

Now that Udoka has a real franchise player (Alperen Sengun), he will win a title.

[@nickpillow5692]

Preach

[@majormomo3466]

Franchise player??? Lol not yet my guy

[@cycleoflife565]

The Euro hype is spiraling out of control.

[@jeremyb9482]

Either Sengun or Amen Thompson

[@acforsale5802]

its udoka's horn factor

[@purrinkittyz4737]

Rockets will be too 6 in the west next year

[@NyQuiiLx]

Brad basically was good at the analytics, but sometimes you need a coach that can say the n word.

[@mikethomas860]

You don't need a head coach. As Kyrie Irving said in NJ, you don't need a Head Coach.

[@96chrisj]

I’m watching this on my phone but why it look like jj got a anime filter on

[@NExclusivIL]

I saw this already need to stop posting the same podcast clips on youtube

[@diegobromfield]

They'd have won the whole thing. The Warriors might have been the only team that could stop them again but obviously the Warriors had a trash year due to numerous reasons so the Celtics would have won it all. I was a huge fan of their 2022 team and then I remember seeing the first few games they played this past season and later in the season & was like... "what the heck is this?" Playing all guards + Horford and jacking up 3s all the time. Plus Tatum basically abandoning his midrange game. Not to mention lazy defending. Yet it was the same team. They cost themselves a title when they fired him.

[@gmats_23]

Well done, Joe Mazzulla. 2024 Champs

[@asacloutier7530]

Hide yo wives Houston!

[@brandond2233]

Boston should’ve never fired Ime.

[@crob949]

💯

[@nanathegoat5106]

Ya you don't know that situation. Even in lesser organizations getting involved with a co-worker will get you fired. Much more a married one and if rumors are true she was married to someone working in the organisation too. Ya that's a fireable offense. He is a good coach but he ended the relationship in Boston not the other way around.

[@brandond2233]

@@nanathegoat5106 fireable offense for both parties right? They both participated and it’s even worse on her end because she was married.

[@nanathegoat5106]

@@brandond2233 she was fired too....actually she resigned. But she's gone too.

[@crob949]

@@nanathegoat5106 you are right that we probably only got a third of the dynamics

[@dvdv8197]

That man does NOT like Joe Mazulla and is VERY glad he's out of there! 😅😂

[@Josh_2992]

I mean, dude tried to do too much at times this past season, often ending in turnovers, and got his minutes reduced. I love grant and I'll miss him in Boston, but it's so weird how overhyped he is now that he's not on the celtics

[@connor_phillipz5689]

For good reason

[@RJ-gk4rt]

@@Josh_2992the same reason everyone was saying JB is better than Tatum and yet those are the same ones saying he’s overpaid. No one wants to see Boston succeed outside of Boston we know this

[@RightlyDivide365]

He talked very complimentary of Joe wys

[@j00bert]

Stirring the pot with that damn thumbnail

[@Way2Raw]

Bro sound like Jidion😂😂.

[@Bronny00]

I can see him in a Portland jersey

[@williambreeze2659]

Thanks guy's!

[@checkmeoutyeah1501]

Ime is the best coach in nba 💯

[@corinthianharris2]

He's replacing Pop as Pop just gets old

[@majormomo3466]

Spoelstra

[@checkmeoutyeah1501]

@@majormomo3466 na

[@CsBBismyreligion]

If udoka is such a great coach why did the Celtics lose to the Warriors in the finals when they were up in the series and lost the final three games in a row by 10 points or more? I think Joe did a good job this year. He was thrown into the lions den right at the beginning of training camp without notice. The Celtics were second-best on defense and on offense in the entire NBA last year. He lost one of his main assistants before the season ended. Of course he's going to make mistakes. But it also means that he's going to learn from those mistakes and get better. Brad brought in some new experienced coaches to help him. I'm looking forward to see how Joe and the team does this year. I think lamenting about udoka's loss is stupid. udoka screwed the Celtics (no pun intended) by doing what he did, and I think he should be the one to be blamed for his having to leave the team not the Celtics.

[@MsCF98]

Well they did get to the Finals as opposed to this season. Not saying that makes Udoka better but I see why people think that because he got farther.

[@IamDoomed15]

Jason Tatum played for the warriors and Steph curry is him, that's it, have u watched the finals???

[@ogog9228]

Jaylen brown getting 305Ms is criminal.

[@ryanb9305]

Not really when you actually understand the nba market. Did you see how much guys like fred vanfleet and jerami grant made?

[@waveynj6602]

V.P of the NBAPA getting the biggest contract ever after a new negotiation…

[@davidfebreeze428]

@@ryanb9305they’re all overpaid… difference is the rockets and the blazers aren’t very good organisations plus the rockets had money to spend anyway while the Celtics are going to be knees deep into the tax eventually

[@sindilacion]

​@@davidfebreeze428they already are in the luxury. They cannot use the money to sign anyone else if they didn't sign jaylen.

[@vante9588]

Who else are they going to get? 😂

[@johnklebahn7094]

Dang bro you only do 1 pod this month or what lol

[@tadah21]

Vacation

[@ThePolicy843]

We still dont know what he actually did that warranted a severe suspension like that. Something tells me he broke somebody's ego 😂

[@ryanb9305]

Something tells me you have never worked in a corporate setting if you did you would understand why he got fired.

[@taetrrtot6205]

​@@ryanb9305so then explain it Mr. Know it all

[@tipsterflipster1144]

@@taetrrtot6205 if someone (male) in an above position sleeps with someone who works in a lower position (female) it can get very messy for the organization, legally speaking of course. I mean that's how I interpreted it, but I could be wrong.

[@ryanb9305]

@@taetrrtot6205 😂 ok clearly you have never worked in a corporate setting either but here i’ll give you a basic example. If you are a person with a position of power or a boss you can’t go sleeping around the office not because of adultery but because of something called a lawsuit. The lawsuit could come from the person who is sleeping with that boss or even someone who isn’t even sleeping with the boss. You think workplaces want to deal with a lawsuit and investigations?

[@easyyeye]

@@ryanb9305didn’t he smash his boss wife doe

[@mayojarr6243]

Speaking of celtics. Why did jaylen brown, barely top 30 player in the league if that, get the largest contract ever?

[@RightlyDivide365]

He’s an all star and made 2nd team all NBA wys.

[@christiangoris91]

First🎉

[@plavalaguna950]

J kidd is clown and grant will see this

[@cmac7384]

Sadly, it's very true.

[@MrSlimnigga]

If Udoka gets 5 years, he's gonna be a champion coach

[@Youralwayswhining4367]

Gonna take longer than that in Houston. He also better try to keep it in his pants this time. Might help