Andre Iguodala On The Good and Bad Of Heat Culture

In this clip, Andre Iguodala talks to Evan Turner and JJ about the best team cultures he's ever been a part of including The Golden State Warriors and The Miami Heat.
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[@Fash0da]

The Heat prove what can be accomplished with even a moderate amount of discipline. The fact it’s proven so hard to replicate demonstrates just how difficult it is to juggle egos in the NBA.

[@uwannasee_greatness]

If this was true they would win a championship every year. But there's clear downsides to it. Not just the idea of egos, but also it's physically taxing playing that way. That's what Iggy is saying.

[@Test-mw8vt]

I would argue its alot more then moderate discipline. The culture is based on discipline and responsibility. A moderate discipline would be be you show up to practice on time and ready to go. Heat discipline seems more like you show up 30 min before in heat provided uniform are warmed up and have already started practicing

[@fauxbro1983]

​@@uwannasee_greatnesslol nobody can win every year, but the plus side is the heat don't fall into the trap of signing fat asses like james harden and thus the heat are always competitive

[@flygenyus2186]

@@uwannasee_greatnessour biggest problem even before Bron & bosh joined the team was that we never had a true pg & center. We had to stick with Rio, Joel Anthony, have Bosh at the 5 sometimes, use whiteside (which i was never a fan of), traded for Lowry & so on. We’ve been depending on our forwards & shooting 3s but I believe if we had a true 5 then we could’ve matched up with Denver this past finals or the finals in 2020.

[@bayareayackem100]

What have u guys accomplished?

[@noodle123ify]

Man, the era of podcasts brings so much inside info. You'd never get this level of detail on Sports Center or a random interview after the game

[@mechashoujo]

Well yeah. It’s more of about narratives and drama from outlets like ESPN. There is barely analytics since those channels are more for entertainment. Although I did like Malika Andrew’s pointing out that no one on the Warriors besides Steph consistently scores 20 a game this season.

[@justindonovan2132]

There is no reason to watch ESPN anymore. Highlights directly from the NBA on KZbin, up to the minute news from Twitter, inside info from player podcasts, play break downs and strategy analyses from KZbinrs. All ESPN has is guys put in a room and told to find something to disagree about and yell about it.

[@CrayZLamar]

Still not over, Evans voice. Gets me everytime.🤦🏾‍♂️ Love this conversation tho, JJ always gets it right.

[@squirtisntpee]

yachtyfied

[@dopamine7109]

Bro yes thank you I couldn’t remember for life of me lmao

[@chrisaustin4115]

Yeah if he had a voice coach he might have a really good voice, cause hes got that warmth to it. But for now theres something a little off about it

[@AngelGonzalez-bw4gv]

He sounds like the meatball from Aqua Teen

[@deeohh6384]

Sounds like what we all thought KAT would sound like

[@jadenwilliams5772]

Im very thankful that Jimmy Butler ended up in Miami. After seeing how the entire Twolves thing unfolded, I don't think there was ever a better fit for a player just based on purely personality. I wonder in an alternate reality how it would have looked to have Kobe in Miami.

[@papiagua]

I mean Riley did used to coach for the Lakers and he wasn't far removed at the time. He definitely had some impact

[@haoye2413]

Kobe has the talent and work ethic, as long as the front office is not horrible, he will be successful. I do wonder if Ja was drafted by Miami, how he would had turned out.

[@kunalmishra9463]

Wade in Miami was an appropriate facsimile of Kobe though. In everything but overall career-level success, the two struck me as some of the closest equals. The games between the three way triarchy of Wade, Kobe, and LeBron, where each could be the best in the league, and with them guarding each other, were just some of the most fun games I've ever seen.

[@channelneo7519]

When I saw Butler and Lowry in Miami, my first thought was : What took you guys so long to get to the Heat? They fit perfectly.

[@cedricasdfghjkl9151]

They had D Wade, there wasn't much of a difference. Prime DWade is arguably on the same level of Kobe. People were too focused on the fact that Kobe's teammates (2004-2007) and LeBrons (2003-2010) weren't that good, that they missed that Wade's from 2007-2010 were just as bad on many occasions. Not many can claim to have led a team to a championship by being the best player on the team with the margin that D Wade was in 06 when he had a good supporting cast. Don't forget it was just his 3rd year in the league. Wade was probably in terms of skills and accomplishments the best guard to ever do it in his first years. He was a champion way quicker than Jordan, and way quicker a champion than Kobe as the undisputed man on his team. Just because Kobe (unfortunately) isn't with us anymore, doesn't mean other players weren't just as worthy as he was if doing great things. Dwyane Wade is the most underappreciated player ever.

[@jdabelado716]

Man, Iguodala's veteran presence is lit! 🔥🔥🔥

[@SanRhuan]

The league needs more of that, a lot of vets are gone when they could still be playing at elite level and providing insight and culture for the younger ones.

[@jdabelado716]

@@SanRhuan exactly

[@maximus3294]

@@SanRhuan UD was a great example of that. shame that some folks felt the need to clown on him. as if every roster spot should have a 15+ ppg scorer or something. there's some weird fans out there

[@alexanderchamanmah9904]

Except for when he refused to report for work in Memphis….

[@friendlyneighborhoodtoaste8216]

I think the reason miami did so bad the 2021 season was because them and the lakers had the shortest offseason in NBA history. They didn't have time to relax, let their bodies recover, train properly, get fit for the next season, and get their heads straight. In reality if they had a real offseason, that mental strain probably wouldnt have been so bad.

[@mark-one6511]

exactly

[@AllEyezOnRod]

I totally agree

[@ryansproviero]

Heat Culture makes no excuses. Milwaukee was just better than us in the 1st round in 2021.

[@free7130]

@@ryansprovieroi agree but it wouldnt of been as bad if we got rest

[@b111x]

@@ryansprovieroBro as a fellow heat fan, this is true to an extent. Had we had Bam and Dragic healthy for more than half the series (which they played less than), we would’ve beat LA. Had we had Herro this postseason, we would’ve beat Denver.

[@asianspec]

This is why Pat Riley is the Godfather. It’s not for everyone. It’s cultures like this that keeps you relevant in the NBA and why even though ESPN always disrespects the Heat when it comes to ranking, why they are always in the mix to be in the ECF.

[@bayareayackem100]

Good to be revelant but not enough to win a chip. The wade, lebron era don't count.

[@RafitoOoO]

​@@bayareayackem100why not? They went to Pat Riley exactly because of the culture.

[@bayareayackem100]

@@RafitoOoO thats like saying curry klay and kd wasnt suppose to win. Lebron bosh and wade suppose to win a few.

[@RafitoOoO]

@@bayareayackem100 what are you talking about?

[@Rodricktyrone]

@@bayareayackem100”don’t count” Does kyrie harden and KD count? How about Kobe Dwight and pau? PG &khawi? Several teams were favored to win and took L’s it all counts my boy

[@dimelo58]

I love his insight on the wide open shots and the tightness of wanting to be perfect and not ever miss those and its verry much true, the other team never gets in my head but when my own team puts too much pressure on me I play kinda tight and end up missing shots I normally make because I’m worried about letting them down.

[@OhTaco77]

That's why Warriors prefer beating their opponent with huge lead, their style of free falling basketball sometimes causes them games in clutch moments..they can afford to when they have huge leads.. Miami on the other hand mostly has close games, they are more dangerous when it's close game in the clutch

[@kennymcnally1576]

I.e. Russell Westbrook Wasn’t allowed to be himself on the lakers

[@dimelo58]

@@kennymcnally1576 yeah I guess that’s a valid example but that was more about bad fit he and lebron do the same things so they kinda got in each other’s way I meant more like you feel the pressure and you don’t wanna let your team down instead of just playing you start overthinking it.

[@schuylersavage276]

@@dimelo58nah that’s exactly what happened with Russ. His own team and fans got in his head.

[@dimelo58]

@@schuylersavage276 I disagree that’s not what i’m talking about at all, russ was a bad fit he wasn’t put in situations where he could be successful. I’m talking about like a player that his job is just to spot up and shoot 3s and play defense but you put so much pressure on him that he’s playing tight cause he wants to be perfect so he misses because of that like that’s what he’s there for. It’s hard to play when you’re trying to be perfect mistakes will be made It’s better to play free if that makes sense

[@micahclawrence]

I always thought Iggy looked smart but he surpassed my expectations immensely. I can see why the Warriors value him besides his talent on the court.

[@dsg3053]

Surpassed your expectations...

[@anthonymiller934]

@@dsg3053right?

[@micahclawrence]

@@dsg3053 🤡

[@pranavmanie1479]

it's what makes him a great investor too!

[@cam8868]

Grizzlies legend Iggy 🙌

[@ricosolomon]

SO GOOOD lmao I was going to add "hey Iggy, tell us all about Grizzlies Culture"

[@Triumphant144]

😂😂😂😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@5thDimension3]

💀

[@ahmedrizwan7235]

Issa parade inside my city yeaah 🤣

[@aldogarcia34]

Evan Turners voice always reminds me of Lil Yachty 😂😂😂

[@realjohnlove]

He sounds like a brawlic Kermit the Frog

[@willlisto1105]

I played this video not knowing he was in it and put my phone down to listen while I was doing laundry and literally thought “why is lol yachty on this interview”

[@brentonjones1645]

😂😂😂😂😂 !!

[@IsaacMazur]

Man having watched both of these guys for most of their careers, it’s so cool to see them chopping it up. They are both so well-spoken. Definitely #morethananathlete

[@NotTheWEJ]

This podcast is so good man. Thank y’all 🙏🏾

[@cl8355]

The heat organization does it the right way. Pat has built that team into a contender time after time. From the mourning era. To the shaq and wade era. To the lebron and wade era. To the jimmy butler era. Pat always builds a contender

[@LastraBrown]

💯

[@Amick44]

And one of the few (in mgmt) to stand up to LeBron.

[@malooch]

Look at what the Heat have accomplished since ‘20. It works.

[@tn81792]

0 chips

[@RuSsHeR1]

@@tn817922 finals appearances in 3 years tho, more than 90% of fans’ fav team lmao

[@kingizzo7626]

@@RuSsHeR1they haven’t accomplished anything tho . The Celtics are the most accomplished team in the East since Lebron went west. Most playoffs, ECFs, finals appearance. Miamis one more finals appearance doesn’t push them ahead of Boston in terms of team success

[@grum6961]

@@kingizzo7626how are you so wrong

[@grum6961]

@@kingizzo7626managed to contradict yourself in two sentences

[@kirloi]

Fate of the world is on the line... Im picking Andre F#%2%ng Iguodala mannn. Great talk.

[@swish1145]

Man shoutout Big Mark Jackson. Trained me and a couple other kids when we were coming up in high school. No charge just all love. Real one ✊🏽

[@iamking_nell]

Love this type of convo

[@Kevinmac1120]

That's crazy bro I'm 26 so around the same age as most guys in the league, and even when im playing pickup for nothing I don't look at my phone in between games ever. Just to make sure I stay absolutely focused and play my best. Now imagine getting paid millions and not even able to have that mindset

[@Omnis2]

Most people that grew up in the iphone era are morons. It's a paradox. They don't know how to act without it.

[@ebhs0089]

Right even when I was playing youth soccer, I’ll see my teammates scrolling through instagram at halftime, and I always thought to myself “how can you do that ??”

[@ogsloppnbiscuiitz1108]

*..No wonder as time goes on, more n more of these fashion walk ways be takin place.. it’s less about the game itself n more about themselves..*

[@tulstra]

That’s crazy you’d think with how focused you are that you would’ve made the league over guys like Jrue Holiday, wonder why you haven’t yet?

[@stevesheldon8616]

@@tulstra lol, right, it's so impressive that he can make his millions of social media followers wait till after the scrimmage to get an update on his exciting life.

[@Tehui1974]

Another interesting discussion by Andre towards the end. I see this problem with teams in other sports too - some act too tight and restricted, others act too loose and care free.

[@TheRetardization]

cant get over evan turner sounding like yachty...

[@alexandergraham9737]

JJ man, you're a five-star host and presenter. Loving this channel!

[@Papadidas]

Thanks for that great info about mindset.

[@matty7106]

Wow, really insightful. Andre always has great nuggets and interesting takes, but doesn’t come across as overly analytic. It’s interesting to see the downside of Heat culture. You can’t argue with their track record, but there’s a hidden cost and now I understand it a bit more.

[@juniorguilot3827]

He really does cuz you always hear how heat culture bt never the downside which makes sense cuz there was a stretch where ppl wanted duncan robinson traded cuz he was cold for a stretch

[@MistaWordz]

​@@juniorguilot3827It was a lot longer than a stretch and for over $18M a year, you gotta be a lot better than an inefficient single digit scorer that can't really do anything else.

[@AutistikManiac]

If someone had to make a 3 pointer with my life on the line I'm picking iguodala

[@davidperkoski1132]

Larry

[@Triumphant144]

Lmfaooo

[@tangcat3249]

We have found Max Kellerman’s burner

[@scaled-daddy22]

Eagle dolla

[@jckdnls9292]

It was good knowing you... RIP lol

[@cudjojamel]

Very proud to be a heat fan 4L we could have a drought for 50 yrs I wouldn’t budge but knowing the culture I KNOW I’ll see another LOB in south beach before I go 🙏🏾

[@andregulick3925]

Fascinating to hear him talk about the Warriors like that, their free-flowing style has brought them great success, and it’s pretty cool that their identity has been built on that despite those relative weaknesses (turnovers etc). If they played the way the Heat did, it would’ve probably not worked out for them anyway, Steph & Draymond need to be able to have that freedom, but maybe that speaks to their generational talent as well.

[@farsous10]

Different factors come into play with that, the warriors culture probably fits for players like Steph and Draymond to have thet freedom, as well as the young guys in the team so they don't feel that pressure that can stun their growth, and I think the player that fits that culture the most is by far Klay given his personality. Miami's culture is great and respected for so long and have given them success too, I don't think it's easy to say which culture is better, just depends on the fit based on players the two teams have. Warriors obviously had more success recently so it's easy to say they have better culture, but warriors talent specifically Steph is far greater than anyone in Miami's rn. But if Miami has that level of talent they can win more, like when they had lebron

[@copedigital]

We’ve seen the heat system be successful before LeBron and after Wade. We’ve seen the Warriors system with Curry being injured for a season as well. That’s all I can judge it based off of

[@dolloptrollop]

good to hear about brad

[@FsTi5]

Evan turner a good guy, I got his autograph in like 8th grade

[@totophandhamaly9944]

He was solid for us in Portland ❤

[@markstreff3215]

JJ....keep up the pushback and great content.

[@bthedonb3013]

❤ANDRE know basketball mindsets

[@kidneythief6833]

Bro sounds EXACTLY like lil yachty 😂😂

[@maxwellg8447]

Evan Turner is a better man than me. Ain’t nobody grabbing me like that weather they mean to or not. 😂😂😂

[@frankenviews4069]

It's Pat Riley culture. The reason why the Showtime Lakers didn't 3-peat was because Pat over practiced them to the point of injury and exhaustion.

[@detailsmove]

great observation

[@JMacTheFanatic]

Evan turner should have gone into voice acting after basketball.

[@MetaMan09]

He still can 😂💯

[@realjohnlove]

Be a great Stitch

[@Kodreanu23]

This was such an intelligent clip! Thank you!

[@MaddNomad1015]

People talk about just the Heat, remember Pat Riley had a early version of that culture with the Lakers as I’m sure.

[@PersianTiger1]

Why does Evan turner sound like lil yachty

[@1hendrixx7]

Lil Boat!

[@shahrosebhatti9122]

Definitely doesn’t turner got a deep voice yachty sounds like a gay man

[@ThisIsMrJ13]

It’s just a matter of professionalism to not have your phone out and let the coach/team do their thing first.

[@yvonneshelton2505]

This is great

[@MMBeing]

Great conversation. The cell phones have really taken over our lives and mostly in a bad way. Guys can't even wait until the game is over and checking their phones at halftime. Even Iggy in this segment while he's talking has his phone in his hand..Amazing...Yes, things are different but damn...

[@CarelessAmbition]

Finally the TRUTH about Boston Celtics culture 🥳 thank you ET 🔥

[@MrPeanutButter907]

Evan Turner coming in clutch with the sideways looks and "did I just hear that correctly?" facial expressions

[@YvngGoat_]

Iguodala would be a great coach

[@jadenwilliams5772]

basically was a coach for that 2022 finals. Those clips of him schooling Wiggins and Poole were great

[@kyle3860]

He wouldn’t

[@insomthegreat]

"We know we gone win" 😂😂 Those are the best teams to be on and to be on one at the highest level 😢

[@lilwhoopy345]

2:50 Andre is exactly what he doesn’t want to be. Lol… one of them old guys

[@schneiderelly]

You really don't need to text anyone at halftime. Family included. I mean they have been playing basketball for a long time.

[@voiceofreason2674]

Yea that's shocking to me , I never touched my phone during a basketball game I played. Why are these dudes touching the phone at halftime like they really don't care

[@ginnai215]

Just saw Legend of the Thunder Bully for the first time- Awesome movie

[@FBaned]

Someone needs to bring XL Marc on they show

[@Hydro_Pump06]

The contrast in focus of GS and Miami is interesting. But when both teams find that balance they’re both championship contending teams

[@napoleonbonaparte1260]

Theyre literally the yin and yang of NBA. But I prefer the darker side.

[@user-gm5gc1be4w]

Well GS got more talent at the end of the day so they gonna have success regardless

[@tj2fly883]

As a heat fan…that thumbnail was nasty lol good interview

[@thedarkfrost2351]

Who asked

[@ronaldmaxwell6668]

This video is like 6million k 100k p best quality i ever seen what

[@Jry088]

Gotta admit, watching the warriors turning over the ball so much is pretty annoying. But they're one of the best at moving the ball and assists so it kinda evens out. But they do get complacent and careless at times.

[@jmk2410]

Great points by Iggy. I’ve never heard someone talk about the possible negative effects of being so locked in.

[@theena]

Iggy is a great guest, man.

[@HoopsJunkie]

That's why Iggy is one of my favorite Heat player of all-time. He may only been in Miami for two years but he left a remarkable foot print on the team especially during the 2020 Finals run

[@heyarnold8023]

That 2021 season 😮‍💨such a stressful season for us heat fans I hate thinking about it

[@drmontano9414]

Evan Turners voice should be on a cartoon character.

[@mathewsbusiness1263]

Sounds like Miami Heat holds players accountable and divas don’t like it.

[@kaydee1485]

why do people not like to listen, he says it works but it has drawbacks. being mentally tense all the time is not always productive.

[@austintripp9297]

You gonna let another man tell you that you cant make sure your kids are okay or text your wife.. you buggin tf out.

[@chill1224.]

@@austintripp9297ofc you’re a Celtics fan lol typical

[@smallcheddar3012]

@@chill1224.💀andre himself literally said there are pros and cons, the selective hearing is crazy

[@chill1224.]

@@smallcheddar3012 yea you’re selective hearing, the pros and cons he was explaining was that they worked so hard in practice that they would be tense if they missed an open shot or something bc the game was easier than practice, maybe you should go back and listen to the video again

[@antmanstead]

evan story about brad locker room is dope

[@winstonmiu]

I’ll see Evan Turner and Iggy as Sixers for a long time. Reminds me of my 2K11 Philly roster.

[@devonslater5470]

Andre one of the best in the game

[@rboogie9533]

I don’t think Americans could ever understand how crazy checking your phone at half time is

[@RealParadox85]

Evan Turner sounds like a Sesame Street character bruh

[@michaeltolba5901]

I want Iguadola!

[@highwayhero6930]

No JJ. You don’t need to check on your family at halftime. You can not talk to them for a full hour and a half

[@michaellowe2530]

Fr

[@DLabri3]

I love to Hear Iggy talk about basketball

[@androidstud]

Interesting 🤔 viewpoint

[@eldraenpharr8222]

JJ really was getting fuel to be a coach. Xs and Os are important but if he can establish a strong culture in LA that balances intensity with a carefree attitude he could do a great job

[@Headysake]

Teacher. Teach!

[@XanderGlaze]

hearing about the phone thing reminds me of high school getting yelled at anytime you had a phone visible lol

[@user-rr7bu9fe3k]

Why did the Celtics ever move off of Brad Stevens?? Wasn’t he always a great coach?? I know he’s still a GM and stuff but like he never really fell off in coaching right? And he’s still young lowkey too

[@theKing-hi1cm]

If you were offered a promotion with more job control and security would you take it

[@Fresh360Waves]

@@theKing-hi1cm I think this was part of it but also I think Brad just couldn't handle multiple strong personalities in the locker room. He's a great X's and O's guy but big difference between coaching college kids and grown men.

[@my_other_side473]

Good but not Great

[@stevesheldon8616]

@@theKing-hi1cm And far less travelling.

[@floridabreed305]

Heattttttttt 🔥🔥🔥🔥🏆🏆🏆🏆

[@TyTua]

Why he grab Evan turner shirt like that 😂😂

[@biscaynesupercars]

The Miami Heat have one of the best organizations in pro sports. They didn’t immediately fall off as soon as 1 player left or joined the team. They always stayed in the mix and top tier of teams most seasons

[@dsg3053]

False. The Heat wasn't always in the mix or top tier. Once DWade came along, the Heat have been consistent. Prior to DWade, the Heat were a regular season team that didn't hold up too well in the playoffs outside of one season and they still struggled going to the ECF. Prior to that, the Heat sucked. Let's not omit facts

[@biscaynesupercars]

@@dsg3053 what are you talking about lol. They got knocked out by jordan and the bulls in the conference finals way before wade and they always went back and forth with the knicks in the playoffs. Plus the fact that you had to go back 20 years by saying “prior to Wade” shows how great the franchise has been. Your argument is “20 years ago they didn’t go as deep in the playoffs as they usually have been for the last 20 years” lol

[@D-V-C-N]

“I have to check my phone for my family” Cool that takes 7 seconds. Find your phone, look at the lock screen, no messages? Cool put it away.

[@PhishFil]

exactly except in that 7 seconds your coach or other player looks over and you get yelled at. Even though it was for like no time at all, happened to me once when I was at work I dropped my phone out of my pocket, and picked up to check if the screen was broke, and literally just as i flipped it over my boss looked at me and almost fired me for "being on my phone" luckily I've never used my phone at work so when I said what happened they believed me but things like that do happen

[@dmadgrass]

Dude was on the Heat for like 1 season. Interview Haslem for the facts!

[@anthonysteen56]

Sounds to me like the Heat could try just a couple of Phil the Zen Master techniques and provide just enough relaxation to keep the razor’s edge sharp but not brittle

[@sonofsarek]

1) you don’t need to check in with your wife and kids during halftime. Gimme a break. 2) why would you NOT want to check the stat sheet during a timeout? You can get info on what your team is doing right and what their team is doing wrong and vice versa.

[@ryansproviero]

My sister got married recently and I felt the best respect I could give them was leaving my phone in the hotel room. Phones are out of control.

[@Fresh360Waves]

This makes a lot more sense as to why Miami targets a lot of undrafted players.

[@napoleonbonaparte1260]

Yep, divas can't be controlled.

[@kenn781]

Evan Turner lowkey sounds like Lil Yachty

[@Inthaflesh]

can’t unsee mike meyers next to ET’s head 😂

[@calvindomin441]

Hate to be that guy but the energy without Tommy is A1 😭😭😭

[@kingabe07]

4:55 is where the Heat discussion began

[@YCBanksMusic]

Evan Turner sounds like Lil Yatchy 😂

[@DDP0723]

Having to check your phone at half time is wild 🤯

[@JCMthebrand]

We never hear the bad, looking forward to this.

[@voiceofreason2674]

If you say you respect your teammates that means you gotta respect your body. When you go to the heat you gotta show your teammates that you improved your body. Shaq was the most dramatic but a lot of players who went there got in better shape

[@antonlifer4449]

Weird watching this being a 6ers fan. All three of these dudes played in Philly at some time.

[@priztucker]

All they needed was a designated person who the family communicates with in case of emergency. They definitely don’t need to be on their phones.

[@misubi]

Iggy seems like a good dude on and off the court. Would be a great teammate to grow with.

[@btrain7043]

Lil Yachty and Iggy always good guests

[@noonookinz4560]

Damn that’s crazy - they got Stitch on the same podcast as JJ and Iggy.

[@PalAthena]

What’s wrong with checking the stat sheet

[@melvaughn]

Evan turner sound like an alien 👽🛸

[@tylercombs6841]

Being on your phone at half time as a pro is absurd

[@Hammster99]

That dude with the glasses is definitely an alien

[@londonstackhouse4145]

JJ 🏀🏀🏀 come back to Orlando