JK Rowling's New Friends

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Content warning: sexual assault, violent threats, all the bigotry
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[@NicolaiDufva]

Content warning: JK Rowlings friends

[@thesleepydot]

thx, cant believe Shaun didn't add this CW 😔

[@frances9975]

Correction: JK Rowling and her friends

[@lucabutbi]

the terf brigade I'll bet

[@sorasorisora]

*CW: JK Rowling

[@raiyaankazi]

*CW: Joooaaannn

[@ZoeAlleyne]

As a disabled I do NOT enjoy hearing someone say that "special considerations" are inherently bad, that is deffo eugenics vibes.

[@notrod5341]

Oh its blatent. UK schools have "Special needs" departments. It's very very close to colloquial terms for disabilities and I dont think it's a coincidence. Rowling already believes that autistic people cannot know their own gender and choose to transition, and that they are being forced to in some manner. Her shitty friends probably belive worse.

[@Laezar1]

Yeah I was like "oh, me being trans is not the **only** reason they want me dead, great."

[@cryptbeast3222]

Especially when the considerations just mean not being an asshole on sight, minding your own business, and not gatekeeping the healthcare needs of others. A bar so low no one could dance under it.

[@MajaBiana]

Same. I'm white, agnostic and cisgender but I feel that transphobia together with - in my country at least - islamophobia and racism are 'the central problem' in the sense that the right is using them as a starting point. They reuse ideas and arguments all the time so it's so easy to see how they'll treat, for example, disabled people if they manage normalise and spread other types of hatred and discrimination.

[@LexYeen]

@@MajaBiana In many cases, the right uses _literally the same arguments_ they historically used against racial equality against the LGBTQIA+ community.

[@leonv1472]

kills me that jk is suddenly a giant champion of lesbian rights as if she wouldn't have written a lesbian character in harry potter to be some predatory weirdo named karpetta munch or some shit

[@lizvtaz6]

what? what character? I don't remember anybody with this name?

[@georgia860]

@@lizvtaz6 they aren't a character, it was a joke 😅

[@silverstorm3729]

I know this is 2m old but god I needed that laugh, thank you.

[@michelleokafor1268]

Karpetta Munch 😅 so on brand

[@goingunder2548]

‘Did hogwarts have any lesbian characters?‘ ‘Yes. Sappho van Dyke’

[@Badartist888]

JK caring about lesbians has the same energy as those men who suddenly care about women's sports when trans-women are mentioned.

[@user-nm5ge9ht3c]

So men shouldn't care about women's sports?

[@abook945]

@@user-nm5ge9ht3creading comprehension challenge: failed

[@dariocarraresi1823]

@@user-nm5ge9ht3c The men Bretty was talking about don't care about women's sports; they only _pretend_ to do so. Their actual objective is to bash trans women; if that is achieved, those men will go back to not support women's sports.

[@placeholderrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr]

@@user-nm5ge9ht3c No, the point is that they only care when there's something to complain about or a group/minority they dislike is involved. Men should care about women's sports, but them 'suddenly caring' in this comment isn't meant as a serious statement of them caring. The point is that they only care because they're allowed to be transphobic, they don't ACTUALLY care. JK cares about lesbians but only when she's allowed to be transphobic too. Those men care about women's sports, but only when they're allowed to be transphobic too.

[@1324marcus]

@@placeholderrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr sounds like you only deffend trans people, when it lets you attack people, tryna make peace.. thats warmongering

[@jamesrule1338]

“As we say in Germany, if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis.”

[@FuzzyKittenBoots]

I think the TERFS might be the only group one could appropriately call Feminazis...

[@CookieMonster1390]

there was an lgbt group in my area that i got terf vibes from, but it was the largest & most active group so despite being nb i figured i should at least go to one event before deciding. show up, the person who organized the meet up was wearing an adult human female pin and her friend grilled me about my personal life and identity bc i had piercings which she thought might “get in the way” (???) so she doubted i was gay. anyway, the whole time i was there i was thinking, here i am, part of the nazi dinner party. it was fascinating to see terf thought processes in a neutral setting, though - i could’ve psychoanalyzed her hypervigilance and the way that in all aspects of her life she seemed to judge danger based off of looks for hours….. if it didn’t feel gross to socialize w them. i won’t be part of the terf dinner party if i can help it 😞

[@cpte3729]

that isnt a real saying in germany. its a meaningful phrase and true to a good extent but its not a real saying.

[@ChuckNorris130194]

@@cpte3729 yeah I never heard it either even though it has a point

[@ActuallyHoudini]

@@cpte3729 it was a saying picked up by a doctor that was commen in his home town. i think he either assumed because he heard it all the time he thought it was commen across germany or most likely, said "in germany" because americans aren't gonna care about a saying if it doesn't originate from something they don't recognise, such as a small village or town in germany.

[@jophielswings]

Farrow literally has ‘is allergic to non-biblical rainbows’ in her bio. Openly anti-Gay. Not even trying to hide it.

[@resiseven7407]

do you think she starts sneezing when she sees one in the sky

[@resiseven7407]

@@superspencebros832 thank you for the input "SuperSpenceBros"

[@jslimefeld]

@@superspencebros832 Remember to aim for your brain stem king

[@aureliodeprimus8018]

i find the "mother of 5" far more telling. She is at least upper mid class, if she can afford to raise 5 children. Talk about "born with a silver spoon in the mouth".

[@eleSDSU]

I mean, have you read the Bible, there's at least one very evidently gay part between Yahweh a Moses that ends up with rainbows. "Read. Another. Book." also applies to the Bible it seems.

[@brutusmagnuson315]

If you ally with Matt Walsh, take the word “feminist” out of any part of your identity

[@nolanbrewer877]

@Stripes Yeah even then

[@nolanbrewer877]

@Stripes dude what

[@nolanbrewer877]

@Stripes bot ass reply

[@tamarabrugara]

@Stripes when in the hell did she say that ? When did she disavow the groups that essentially want the same thing as matt walsh ? Why didn't she delete the tweets praising him when she did do that with progressives who don't support her bigotry ? Why does she act like far right groups at gender critical protest being counterprotested shows the counterprotestors are anti lesbian ? Why does she promote someone like posy parker ?

[@tamarabrugara]

@Stripes when did I disavow the club Q shooter ? As it happens , The minute I cheered him getting his face stomped in for attacking us. The minute I was putting out evidence that man had no history identifying as queer, but an incredibly long history of homophobia and that the 6 seemed to try to get him out from under hate crime charges. I've also repeatedly marched against apartheid as instituted by Israel. The South African Apartheid I am too young to have been publicly active around. I've also been a quite vocal metoo supporter Bare in mind though that I am not a major public figure in the way Rowling is and I have not literally personally tweeted at all the people you bring up as if we're buddies. Do you have a date so I can maybe find a tweet where Rowling strongly disavows Matt Walshes politics beyond 'maybe don't scream at women that they're cowards but that you for calling me courageous' ?

[@quincey5917]

welcome back to all the people revisiting this video after jk’s holocaust denial

[@Kawamura2]

Well she was careful not to deny the holocaust, but she denied that lgbtq people were specific targets of the nazis, so at the very least she is denying a few nazi war crimes. Still, it's dire and grim. She hangs out with anti-Semites, so she may well yet become a full on holocaust denier.

[@darksidegryphon5393]

Here too :3

[@ZimVader-0017]

HI!

[@uranus2646]

The what???!!!

[@Kawamura2]

While it wasn't exactly full on holocaust denial, she did straight up deny atrocities done to LGBT people.

[@Guimhj]

"I can excuse misoginy and racism, but I draw the line at supporting trans people"

[@fenjamaus02]

"you can excuse racism?"

[@jamescook5783]

Yeah, they got it backwards.

[@sm0na]

don't forget homophobia!

[@thaigo_tigas_tigo]

thats great stuff (the Community reference, not the transphobic part)

[@thaigo_tigas_tigo]

Brasil mencionado

[@jadem9987]

As a lesbian, I am so tired of people using me as an excuse to show how their transphobia is justified and for me, especially when the person spouting that nonsense is straight. I am not their political tool.

[@melaniey.5596]

Oh wow I never considered how lesbians would feel about having their existence weaponized to oppress trans people by the GC folk. It makes sense to feel frustration... and shows the CG callousness and opportunism. As people say, lesbians gooooo! Solidarity is the way! Also damn, your comment has been plagued by scammers bots. My condolences.

[@NatsumiTakanawa]

The modern fascists' tactic is to use marginalized people as a mouth piece for their bigotry. The same way the nazi party of 1930s Germany had national socialist and gay SS officers before they were kiIIed off once they got powerful enough.

[@asinineAbbreviations]

ik. ive had transphobic people in my life try and justify why i should share their hateful views by calling it an attack on lesbians. i dont feel particularly attacked by trans women wanting to be accepted as who they are!

[@Saibellus]

it truly feels like a nonsense connection to me. disinterest in penis is not the defining trait of a lesbian. i might not be attracted to bald people but that doesnt connect at all to my perception of gender. its just a feature of their body, like any other. some lesbians will date trans women and some wont. some lesbians will date redheaded women and some wont. its that simple.

[@Anonymous-54545]

word. this is like, the first time anyone has talked about us in a long ass time

[@TNTales]

Helen Joyce saying that "trans people are a difficulty" reminds me of the Nazi quote: "the Jews are our misfortune." Chilling stuff.

[@chalkandcheese1868]

Idiotic comparison, criticise JK Rowling's views as much as you want but leave the Holocaust out of it.

[@CrowTR0bot]

@@chalkandcheese1868 It's hard to when "Gender Critical" types are using the same dehumanizing language the Nazis did. Hell, the Nazis weren't shoving people into gas chambers on day one, it took them a couple decades of escalating rhetoric to dehumanize and isolate Jews and other "undesirables" from mainstream German society before the first gas chambers were built. So if anything, YOU are trivializing the Holocaust by pretending it happened all at once out of the blue.

[@chalkandcheese1868]

@@CrowTR0bot I'm not pretending it all happened at once, stop putting words in my mouth fool. Anybody comparing this issue to the holocaust is an idiot. I suggest you get off social media, read some books on the holocaust and get some perspective.

[@CrowTR0bot]

@@chalkandcheese1868 I swore off social media for Lent, but read extensively about the Holocaust beforehand. It didn't start with camps, it started with dehumanizing rhetoric, like claiming that Jews were a bunch of puppetmasters, or that LGBT people were a "social contagion." In the latter case, the Nazis literally burned down a research institute whose scientific studies confirmed gay and trans people weren't a bunch of perverts or monsters, because their research was a threat to the patriarchy. In any case, German society was on its way to accepting queer people until people like Hitler demonized them as child molesters and demasculating people, but it took years to get to that point. "Never again" means not waiting until people are being loaded onto trains to object. It means calling out lies before you can be silenced. But people calling out your lies is an inconvenience. We know what your long term plans for trans people are, and how it won't stop with trans people. We've seen it happen before. So stop using the cruelty of the Holocaust as a shield. You want nothing more than to see it happen again to so-called "men in dresses."

[@chalkandcheese1868]

@@CrowTR0bot Oh so now I'm a Nazi am I? Just for pointing out your narcissistic victim fantasy, and your disgusting comparison with the Holocaust. When the national guard start dragging you off to death camps for execution, then you'll have a case. "Slavery, The holocaust, Caitlyn Jenner, we're all the same" STFU

[@alexandrajay2001]

as a lesbian i find the way JK Rowling talks about lesbians to just be offensive, honestly. for her as a straight woman to just assume and claim no lesbian would ever want to date a trans woman is boldly inaccurate. i would happily date a trans woman, so long as she was the right person for me, and all my queer friends would say the same. so much for letting women speak for themselves 🙄

[@mariesabine2385]

Right on! We’re in this together 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️

[@casbee9610]

Many of these "lesbians" she talks for are just women who hate men. They're not attracted to women, they just hate men. And women who disagree with them. So much hate. They're not only FARTs, they also appropriate lesbianism.

[@kaijuno]

Absolutely. As a lesbian, it’s so insulting to hear transphobes use lesbians as a pawn in some ‘save the children’ argument to prevent individual lesbians from… having to choose whether or not we date a woman with a penis?? Or a trans woman in general? Like trans women and nonbinary people haven’t always been a part of sapphic culture and communities. It’s nonsensical. It’s deeply patronising. And it’s such an imaginary issue, based on an assumption that all lesbians must feel the disgust they feel toward trans people. Who lesbians date or fall in love with is certainly not for conservatives to police, and the idea that trans people couldn’t ever simply be seen and loved for who they are is just patently untrue.

[@JuliETrevA]

It's obvious by now that Joanne and her crowd don't actually care about us lesbians and the moment they get what they want with trans people, they'll be turning to us.

[@CitanulsPumpkin]

Terfs like Rowling view lesbians the same way nazis view the minorities that willingly spread nazis propaganda. Dave Rubin, Ben Shapiro, and Candace Owens are useful to the cause, but they aren't people. They're pawns fighting over who gets to be lynched last. If there were no trans folks, terfs would simply set their sights on lesbians.

[@rachelsmith3592]

As I watched this I kept thinking back to something Shaun observed in his Harry Potter video-in JK Rowling’s world, there are no good and bad people, only good and bad teams. In the Harry Potter books, bizarre and morally inconsistent behavior was explained away by a character being “one of the good guys” and therefore justified in whatever they choose to do. Apparently the same logic applies to Rowling’s real life. She’ll happily pal around with homophobes, religious extremists and outright fascists as long as they’re all equally afraid of trans people.

[@predalienmack]

This is just liberalism in a nutshell. Liberals believe their ideology is the end all be all of human history and that humanity cannot do any better. They have to see themselves as the "good team" and their opposition as the "evil team" because if they saw their own ideology from a critical lens, they would rapidly discard it due to centuries old flaws within that ideological position that have never been resolved.

[@FullMetalPanicNL]

I've never read the Harry Potter books, I prefer Terry Pratchett, but knowing her antics this doesn't surprise me at all.

[@WeatherInOrlando]

This is such a fantastic point

[@bootedbuilds]

Yeah, that sounds spot on.

[@aradraugfea6755]

How long until the Grindlewald movies have a trans antagonist, do you think?

[@acathosh]

Every day we stray closer and closer to girl-boss fascism

[@peterprime2140]

MORE👏FEMALE👏 CONCENTRATION 👏CAMP👏GUARDS

[@emmaatkinson7379]

Got some news about Italy for you, sir..

[@maslo9116]

I hate how you are not wrong

[@ooooneeee]

yeah, Italy it's going there rn.

[@GallorKaal]

Meloni

[@RayOfTruth]

Last month JK Rowling bragged about following Kaeley Triller, saying she was "welcomed to her club." Kaeley preyed upon a 17 year old that was under care in a juvenile delinquency counseling program.

[@mikaelste-marie1275]

Why I ain't surprise at this point ?

[@weatherman1504]

So she would support actual p3dophiles, but will spew transphobic rhetoric that says that all trans people are p3dos? I really don't get her at this point. She would support some of the worst people on the planet if they happened to hate trans people.

[@dr00g35]

every accusation is a confession

[@thecockman]

@@dr00g35to clarify; you’re criticizing Kaeley right

[@dr00g35]

@@thecockman yes

[@gido9467]

“Women won’t be free until we’re free of abortion” you know, the thing women aren’t forced to do, and are free to choose if it’s right for them. Makes sense. 😆

[@Pihsrosnec]

didn't you know we live under the laws jreg established as an anti centrist and abortion is now mandatory?

[@gido9467]

@@Pihsrosnec I didn’t know that! Makes so much sense now! 😆

[@SuperSmashDolls]

JKR's opinion of women is the same as her opinion of house elves

[@doloresl.2150]

@@SuperSmashDolls hating JK Rowling won't cure your prostate cancer

[@dylansharp8471]

@@Pihsrosnec What?

[@LadyPenumbra]

As a person who is wheelchair dependent, the mention of getting rid of people because they require "special accommodations," is particularly chilling. Trans people don't need "special accommodations," they just need to be treated like everyone else.

[@Woodledude]

To add to your comment, and as an amateur student of design, I can't help but notice that there's literally something called the "Curb Cut Effect" - As in, the way we make sidewalks more accessible to people in wheelchairs also tends to benefit a lot of other people, without really inconveniencing anyone except the designers of such spaces - And it's their entire job to make those kinds of helpful accommodations. Sidewalks are basically a mobility aid for anyone stricken with the terrible disease of... Not being in a car at the moment. And modern roads are accommodations for an actual terrible disease, that of being in a car at the moment. I've seen a lot of single-person gendered public bathrooms, and I have to say, that is the stupidest thing. What, it's some massive inconvenience to the average person to... Have more toilets available to them? The only way we can indicate "There's a toilet in here" is whether or not a stylized icon of a person has a friggin' skirt or not? Oh no, it would be too confusing, and disgusting, to have a sign on a door that just says "BATHROOM". Or gods forbid, a simple picture of a toilet (gasp!) to accommodate people who cannot read English (More? Gasp? It's worth pointing out this also includes perfectly fluent, native English speakers, of whatever definition of "native" you'd like to apply. Some people just struggle to read or cannot do so. No shame in it.) And - Oh no! Someone of the opposite gender might have used this toilet! Let's disregard that it's pretty much equally disgusting to be using a toilet that was used by a person of the same gender, and that public bathrooms being unsanitary by whichever standard you feel like applying is a product of poor maintenance and/or the nature of public bathrooms generally. How are our rights being removed, again? How are we less free, here? Solidarity, friend.

[@blackmichael75]

I think she probably meant that they should have therapy to help them with their gender dysphoria, not that they should be put in a concentration camp and gassed.

[@LadyDoomsinger]

It's very telling that these people consider "Don't be a jerk" to be such hard work, that they count it as "special accommodation".

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@Woodledude Trans-Rights + so many Stuff is mentioned and explored by 'Some More News' and 'Hbomberguy'. Making Video-Essays just like Shaun does is literally their Thing.

[@sigur95]

Indeed. What these people don’t realize is how little effort simply respecting people takes, and how big of an impact it has. They create a societal issue by marginalizing this group of people, then proceed to call the same group of people a burden on society because of the exact problem they caused by not respecting their humanity in the first place. Like, I’m sure trans health and well being would go up exponentially if they didn’t have to be constantly terrified of being stripped og basic rights, healthcare, or hate crimed.

[@lich109]

Literally today JK Rowling did the "I dry my tears with my massive wads of money" meme when asked what she thinks about how she lost an entire audience for her books. She literally does not care about more than being rich.

[@jackwhite8204]

@GiRayne at least some of it went to a hate group for a shirt, so there's that

[@lich109]

@GiRayne Yes, you can tell that based on the events she goes to, and the merchandise she buys, some of which was shown in this video.

[@LadyDoomsinger]

Sadly, she doesn't have to care - she's rich enough that any organized boycott wouldn't faze her in the least. And the sad thing is, I still enjoy the Harry Potter books. I keep them on my book shelf. I occasionally take them out and relive my youth reading them. But now that experience is tainted by the knowledge that the author actively and unapologetically hates what I am.

[@aj7058]

Which is just *fascinating* in the wake of the Graham Norton clip where the person asking him such daft questions is like "it's all well and good telling via white men who have held power for decades that they should be quiet for once, but what about JKR?" As if she isn't literally one of the richest people who has ever lived? As if that doesn't bring with it immense amounts of power and privilege?? As if she doesn't live in a fucking castle???

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@LadyDoomsinger , I take it you never watched Shaun's video critique of the Harry Potter novels... that will ruin them just as fast.

[@MigattenoBlakae]

Shaun: Trans people deserve to exist. Newest Comments: *And I took that personally.*

[@danielasanabria9576]

Of course they deserve to exist but they are and will always be the sex they were born with

[@irpwellyn]

@@danielasanabria9576 lol reread your comment

[@MigattenoBlakae]

@Daniela Sanabria correct. Their sex chromosomes will never change. WE’RE TALKING ABOUT GENDER RIGHT NOW. Get it through your skull, Daniela. More like Daniela sana-braindead, amirite?

[@sandran17]

​@@MigattenoBlakae youre taking it personally

[@MigattenoBlakae]

@@sandran17 yeah. I take trans stuff very personally. Have had a lot of trans friends and family. Will not tolerate any disrespect lol

[@artikulv731]

Saying that the number of trans people in the world should be reduced because they need “special accommodations” is the equivalent of saying that the number of disabled people in the world should be reduced for the same reason. Neither trans nor disabled people can help being trans or disabled, and there is NO WAY to go about “removing” them that isn’t horrific and inhumane.

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

They basically see treating people they see beneath them like they don’t see them that way as a special accommadation

[@SEAkuaa]

Also in history there was a man who also thought to reduce a number of a certain culture and people with disabilities, and unless you're Kanye you probably don't want to sound like him.

[@IAmAnItalianPizza]

Send us.. to.. mars??? Seriously please do so, id rather cut off my oxygen supply than try to explain being trans isnt optional to another transphone

[@TRUECRIMESPTV]

It's also outright Nazi. They called disabled people social non-productives.

[@FuckTheYoutubeUsernameChange]

not just that, but it won't change a thing. trans people have always existed in all societies throughout the centuries and will continue to exist for as long as humans do.

[@JackgarPrime]

If you call yourself a progressive or equal rights activist, but find yourself cozying up with the Heritage Foundation, you really should be having a "Are we the baddies?" moment.

[@brittanywilliams8653]

If you call yourself a progressive but find yourself fighting for male rapists to go in female prisons, you should really be having a "Are we the baddies?" moment.

[@Khajmer]

If the only people who will platform your arguments are fascists, you should *really* take a moment to think about why that is.

[@Rawnblade13]

No kidding. Holy shit.

[@pa1nted]

maybe next season the Z squad will team up with you to take on an even greater evil though

[@funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong]

@@pa1nted "I might be a criminal lunatic, but I'm an AMERICAN criminal lunatic!" Vibes

[@wile123456]

Bigotry is like neopolitan ice cream. It never comes in just a single flavour.

[@DavidRichardson153]

And chocolate (brown) is always the first to be, uh...finished off.

[@redherronrecords]

@@DavidRichardson153 BECAUSE IT'S THE BEST ONE... ahem, sorry, apparently I internalised this quickly af.

[@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow]

The train never stops at just one station 😅

[@DavidRichardson153]

@@redherronrecords That's fine. I am not a fan of it, but that is probably due to me being boring af. For me, if I am going to have it, I prefer it to be warmer, bigger, harder, and something I can put in...I should probably stop with the description here.

[@Karajorma]

@@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow It's also never late. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqDUoHaiqKqbiJY

[@cervicalvertebrea]

Rowling has always hated criticism. I think the earliest sign was that her books got less edited as she got more famous. If I were to base a fictional character off her, their fatal flaw would be a refusal to accept any critique.

[@____uncompetative]

Yeah. That's why they stopped selling and being made into movies. Oh wait...

[@iR3vil4te]

That’s why she published her first crime novel under a pseudonym because she wanted it to succeed on the merits of the writing and not because of her name, oh wait…

[@retrobrickreviews687]

​@iR3vil4te The crime novel that tanked so hard upon release that she had to then reveal online that she wrote it in order for it to become a bestseller immediately afterward?

[@iR3vil4te]

@@retrobrickreviews687 Rewriting history now? Nice 👌

[@WeWantBears]

The time turners? You're all going to complain about that? *Well then, let's just see what happens if they DID use those to save Cedric, never mind that he died valiantly with grand principles and good ethics standing up for others, let's go on to say that if the CRITICS of my work got to save Cedric... eh, he'll become a Nazi Death Eater anyways. Checkmate, critics of my work. And if you try to ask about that house elf freedom movement I put into Chamber of Secrets, I'll just make Hermione look like an activist fool so that her collective action movement doesn't lead to any chance in the HP Wizarding World. In fact let's have every character say that most house elves don't even MIND being slaves-*

[@lmn977]

Thinking about the bit in Shaun's HP vid on how the books make a show of including/analogising marginalised groups, but end up doing it in reactionary ways. They'll show one member of a marginalised group who is misunderstood and an exception to negative stereotypes, but then depict many others who vindicate the stereotypes. Like Lupin the benevolent werewolf vs all the dangerous, predatory ones who can't re-enter society. This implies that the "sensible" way for Harry (and therefore the reader) to approach such groups is through the lens of stereotypes, but with an openness to the possibility of exceptions. The ideology seems to be that negative stereotypes are broadly correct (the system works and doesn't need dismantling), but occasionally inapplicable to individuals (the system occasionally needs to be flexible). I wonder if this maps onto/informs JKR's attitude to trans people. According to her essay, she has a trans friend and liked the trans youth she met through her charities. But it seems like no one can displace the negative stereotypes through which she conceives of the group as a whole. Because her ideology can't conceive of something as systemic as transphobia being entirely wrong.

[@jamespryor5967]

Remember that Lupin nearly killed Harry and friends in the book.

[@casperes0912]

@@jamespryor5967 In Lupin's case, being a werewolf is ultimately considered negative regardless, yes, and he's just more capable of controlling his "bad side", a bit like saying "It's okay to be gay if you hide it" or whatever. But I think LMN's reading still makes sense for a lot of other characters and partially Lupin as well. And that it's an interesting take on it all

[@aliasonarcotics]

@@casperes0912 i don't think you can map being a werewolf to being, say, african american or gay or whatever. because being a werewolf entails supernatural bouts of an urge to hunt and kill other people and all werewolves have this tendency without exception. you speak as if the horrors of being a werewolf is merely a matter of perspective when it is an objectively terrible thing, both for themselves and the safety of the people around them. there isn't any allegory to be found here, unless we are talking about how we as a society should treat people who are also predisposed to hurt and/or kill others, such as psychopaths

[@kylegonewild]

​@@aliasonarcotics Plenty of allegory to be found there. It's the exact kind of image homophobes painted queer people with for decades. And racists for even longer. One of the quintessential white supremacist myths is that of the uncontrollably aggressive black man who is prone to sudden outbursts of rape and violence. You just hand-waving it, or worse actually not seeing it despite commenting on it, doesn't mean there's no allegory.

[@FreeAssange]

Why are there trans people who agree with her?

[@fmobus]

"women won't be liberated until we are free from abortion"... WAT?

[@sopranophantomista]

All I can say is I can't wait for their other girlfriends getting backstreet abortions and realizing they don't actually want that. I can hope.

[@NicolaiDufva]

“There are two kinds of freedom: Freedom to and freedom from” - Aunt Lydia, The Handmaid’s Tale. I bet it’s this kind of warped mentality at play here.

[@TheReddaredevil223]

When women don't have a choice, they will be free! ....wat

[@user-xr9kj6by3u]

mental gymnastics should be a new olympic sport.

[@darrens3]

"Slaves won't be free until they're in chains" J K Rowling in the year of our Lord 2022. 🤣

[@KatBlaque]

It's interesting to me how far she can go and how many terrible people she can rub shoulders with and people will still struggle to call her a transphobe.

[@sharonbebop9460]

I suspect it's more that they are struggling with themselves. After all, if they liked her work at any point in their lives, especially if they got parasocial about it, then that can be hard to reconcile with a view of oneself that is against terfs and terf talking points. Especially given how social media can be regarding nuance.

[@yurifairy2969]

its sickening how she pretends to stand up for lesbians while working with people that want to put us in ovens

[@PlatyNews]

A huge amount of people who struggle to call her a transphobe, if you push them just a little will parrot the same shit as her.

[@HughMiller98]

@@sharonbebop9460 I was lucky that I used to be obsessed with the works rather than the author. I grew up with the HP universe so it's a massive part of my childhood. I used to reread the books over and over. So even when JK comes out with everything it's weirdly hard to let go. I've seen some really cool HP merch but I have to stop myself because I know I'd only be funding more of her views.

[@shinyfruitbat8024]

It hurts a lot, but I'm not too surprised by it. Some of it may partly be nostalgia, because a lot of people grew up with Harry Potter, so their instinct may initially be to back the "beloved childhood author." Also, a lot of people really don't like acknowledging that they are bigoted or hold bigoted views and subconscious biases. Looking in a mirror is hard, because it means having to re-evaluate themselves, maybe even their entire world views, and see they're wrong, contrary to what they think they've known or been taught all along. So they'd sooner do the easiest, less painful and less energy inducing thing: cover it up, deny, and wear rose tinted glasses. The most terrible people who know they're bad don't care how wrong they are, because if they can get what they want in the end, they'll justify the means and any terrible thing in order to reach their goals. I don't think a majority of average people think in that kind of twisted way, so a lot of the worst of the worst shit is hard to wrap their heads around, esp when it becomes normalized and part of the "that's just how things are" mentality, moreso by types like JKR who have for so long been loved by many. It makes it an easier pill to swallow.

[@Saycille]

My partner was like "At this point, I don't think Rowling is even a TERF. She's just a right-wing bigot." And I was like "I don't know about that. She's awful and I hate her, but she's still a feminist in her own twisted and sick way." Then i saw this video and was like "ope, nevermind. I was wrong lol"

[@92RedRevolver]

Idk, I liked how unresponsive and ignorant she seemed during that prank Zelenskyy call. She just gets off on her own self-importance at this point.

[@basedbattledroid3507]

They're honestly one in the same, terfs are right-wing bigots, just because they view themselves differently doesn't change that their actions are identical

[@deceseze]

terfs Are right wing bigots

[@AbdurraheemRaqib10243]

You and your partner need to gain a little perspective if you think there's any meaningful difference between the 2.

[@spongeluvah6583]

Those are the same thing anyway though. TERFs and bigots are literally the same. They're all awful people.

[@trishial8212]

It's almost funny how quickly her entire platform crumbles beneath her as soon as you look closer

[@aguy7863]

rofl

[@Alex-cw3rz]

It's fascinating how Rowling has such an irrational hatred of trans people, that she will ditch all her principles for it.

[@breadpilled2587]

Bigots have no real principles.

[@Finkeren]

What were her principles in the first place? She's always seemed to me to be a right-skewing centrist.

[@DendyJungle]

She clearly went through decades without so much as a single criticism and pure praise. Her ego ballooned so much that the smallest pin completely undid her

[@Vivi_9]

She doesn't hate trans people she is just rational like the majority of the world when it comes to this idea that gender is a choice. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness and people who suffer with it should be allowed to have surgery that reduces their risks of self harm, so good for them. Promoting the idea that anyone can choose their gender is dangerous and farcical, more people need to speak up against it.

[@groerhahn225]

@@Finkeren She'S more like a centrist-scewing rightwinger.

[@squelchedotter]

I'm a trans person and don't hate myself nearly enough to make myself watch videos on this topic so here's some engagement to make up for it

[@agooseinpeopleclothes]

Here’s me engaging with this comment to boost engagement

[@smaakjeks]

Yeah, it's pretty depressing to watch these insane crybullies call for the destruction of people just being themselves. Even with Shaun calling it out for what it is.

[@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow]

I have the privilege of not being genderqueer in any way. So I’ll brave this bs

[@BingoBongoBengo]

Hope you and other trans folk are doing okay in these shitty times

[@resiseven7407]

we stan self-care 🙏

[@calvinware7957]

My favorite part of this whole thing is how blatantly transparent it is that Rowling associates with these types not because she has a strong ideological commitment to the things they are saying, but because they hate the people who were mean to her online.

[@bobdonda]

Women don't want to be called vagina owners and uterus havers. Women deserve their own sports leagues. Male rapists shouldn't be sent to women's prison. If you think this is transphobia or hate when Rowling says it, then you have a real problem with women being treated fairly and equally.

[@NanaShaCrash]

Agreed. Her behavior suggests that her biggest motivation is highly correlated to the amount of spite she has towards an individual or group of people she perceives as having wronged her.

[@joehepworth8497]

The irony of the these Alt right groups is almost hilarious. They constantly use the word "Freedom" but attempt to dictate what people do with their own bodies. How do they not see the irony?

[@christinalloyd9566]

It is all to do with religion. Total control over how other people lead their lives. That IS religion in a nutshell. Has been for 2000 years.

[@The723343]

? no one cares if u cut ur body parts off. go for it dont care. were not gonna participate in ur fantasy land and ur not gonna push it on children

[@YEs69th420]

Because they don't care, that's why. Don't assume good faith.

[@jonathanstern5537]

Also, they claim, "Cancel Culture," but they're the ones burning books and want to set up a religious and/or ethno-state. They claim the "Left," to be easily triggered snow-flakes, but get enraged by people wishing them, "Happy Holidays," and having LGBTQ+ character/race and or gender swapping characters/making art or entertainment not geared directly at them. It's the old, "Accuse everyone else of that for which you are guilty," thing.

[@hildegunstvonmythenmetz6095]

Freedom for me but not for thee.

[@watsonwrote]

Oh, you know who else needs "special accommodations"? People with leg or spine injuries, people with hearing or sight loss, old people, very young people, people who need to take medications, people who need surgery, people who returned from war, people with abusive partners... wow, almost everyone needs some kind of special accommodation! It's almost like that's why we live in a society together

[@assses-3216]

That was a rollercoaster of a comment

[@amyritchie6890]

adding, students who have children

[@Rin22730]

It's almost as if those people need special accommodations. Women should not be forced to see biological men in women's change rooms.

[@stacieking4458]

Have you ever thought of women only space as special accommodation for women.. not given to us but taken by us for our safety. Women are 3× more likely to be murdered for who we are than even a trans person

[@kenirainseeker539]

@@Rin22730 I'm a cis woman and I couldn't give half a shit what genitals someone else has, change room or otherwise. It's not a "right" to not SEE certain kinds of people. Maybe I don't want to see your face on the street, does that mean you should be banned from being in public, because I don't want to see you? What if a woman doesn't want to see another cis woman? Or be seen by someone who might be a lesbian? Should lesbians also be banned from change rooms? Because there was a time when this same argument was used. For that matter, what if a man doesn't want to see another man? What if a man was traumatized by a SA as a child and gets triggered from seeing other men naked? What if a trans woman fears for her life in a change room with men? What about their rights? Why are your rights the only ones that matter?

[@nomchonks]

jk rowling pretending to be concerned for lesbians while palling around with homophobes that want to take away their rights makes me sick

[@stacieking4458]

#cottonceiling feels pretty homophobic

[@cajunking5987]

As a gay man, you’re certifiably a snowflake for that lmaooo

[@cajunking5987]

I’d be friends with a homophobe any day

[@aeroslythe6881]

I don’t think she’s pretending

[@AnimatedStoriesWorldwide]

seems like your own opinions already made you pretty sick.

[@dusaprukiyathan1613]

The "trans people are costly" thing seems to be self-contradictory, too. If you want happily transitioned people to revert their changes, aren't you asking for the spending of extra resources to do that?

[@Badartist888]

Oh, I'm sure the cost will end up on the trans people and not the government or the people making those laws.

[@jherboss2516]

They want happily transitioned people to die

[@41rmartin]

She doesn't want to detransition them, she wants to bully them into suicide.

[@fodonogue3]

@@Badartist888the cost already is on us, honestly, more than not. We pay a fuck ton of our own money for everything.

[@BlueBerry2283]

Honestly at this point I don't think she is talking about detransition

[@marioi.carrillo6264]

The biggest irony of the GC movement is that by scrutinizing trans people utilizing rigid and arbitrary behavioral and aesthetical metrics (overanalyzing their physical characteristics like shoulder build, jawline, etc) they are unadvertely engaging in the same kind of sexism that feminism fought against. If you don't look like the way they want you to look like, you are trans and not a real woman. This has happened a few times, their nonce is actually actively harming the cis women they supposedly want to protect.

[@nfinn42]

*the TERF movement. Don't enable their cheap attempt to evade accountability for their ugly behavior. GC is an attempt to rebrand, like neonazis calling themselves "white identitarians". Don't let them get away with it and don't help them do it. Call a TERF a TERF - always!

[@Lilyanna298]

@@nfinn42I don’t call them TERF’s because 1) Pointing out the terrible things that they do as GC things helps give the GC movement a bad name. So when they call themselves GC, people know what they are 2) Saying TERF encourages the idea that being Transphobic equals being Feminist

[@nfinn42]

@Lilyanna298 then as soon as you succeed in drawing public attention to how awful "GC's" are, *they'll change their name again* 😕 Next it'll be something like "cisgender identitarians" or "natal gender defenders" or whatever. And they'll go right back to pushing the same dogwhistle transphobia while liberal media dunces go on platforming them, because once again they'll have erected a flimsy veil of plausible deniability between themselves and their violent history. And you'll be stuck once again going "no, see, the NGD's are actually transphobic just like the GC's were" and they'll play innocent, gaslight the public, and paint you as a hysterical extremist jumping at shadows. They will always do this. They will keep lying and trying to dodge accountability for their cruelty, *forever*. There is no honesty in them. The only way to make the public know how ugly they are is to make sure they drag around the record of their hate with them everywhere they go. That every single time they open their evil mouths, someone is there in the comments section immediately saying "shut up, TERF".

[@roseviaryn7353]

yep. the narrow defining of womanhood has been used against WOC, queer women, literally any women for ages. see: the people who make fun of fit women at the olympics for having muscles, or the combo misogynist/racist people that call WOC animals or trans just because they aren't their narrow view of what a woman should be.

[@Haheehahohaheehoha]

@@Lilyanna298 There's also nothing "radical" about them, contrary to what the acronym would suggest. They are, conversely, hyper-regressive.

[@reptilianstudios8994]

As a trans man, telling me I should be sterilized is a great way to be separated from your teeth

[@emperortgp2424]

you would hit a woman?

[@jackbandit2114]

Respectfully, aren't you already sterilized?

[@ace_grunt]

@@emperortgp2424 Yeah, when that woman is an out and proud bigot who cavorts with fascists and wants to strip a group of people of their bodily autonomy and basic rights.

[@kamikage9420]

@@emperortgp2424 You would stay your fist from the teeth of a bigot?

[@corpsecandy2076]

@@emperortgp2424 Rowling is a "thing".

[@funram]

J.K. Rowling had a "phase" during which she sometimes thought things like "it would be easier if I was a boy", mainly because her father was a huge mysoginist. This was frustration caused by blatant sexism, not at all gender dysphoria. But since she cannot grasp the idea of other people experiencing something she never have or will and simply cannot understand because she's not concerned, she invented the crazy idea that somehow these kind of frustrated episodic thought were what was called "gender dysphoria" and thus that "nowadays" those thoughts would lead to a transition. And as the thought of her feminity being denied and removed horrify her (and legitimately so), she started to consider the very concept of transition to be horrifying. And she share her dellusion with the whole world to see.

[@CookieMonster1390]

you know, a lot of the things that she and other diehard GC folk say (especially back when terfs were mainly a tumblr problem) always make me think of how i, a non-binary person, thinks about my own self and gender identity. but, since their minds are closed to anything outside the gender binary, they do not think “i don’t fully feel like a ‘woman’, so maybe i’m not one” - they think “i don’t fully feel like a woman - so no woman has to feel ‘like a woman’ to be one, they just have to have certain outward characteristics. i have those characteristics so i’m a woman no matter how i feel inside” it’s fascinating and concerning tbh. not saying every terf is nb or trans ofc, these days GC is just the far right evangelicals anyway; but i feel like the women who truly believe this adult human female shit, who engage authentically, who aren’t just in it for a grift against women’s and lgbt rights…. i dunno. i think they could be projecting a lot of their own experiences w femininity & womanhood onto an entire population of trans people. EDIT: not to say you’re wrong at all! i also think a lot of terfs take their experiences w misogyny and twist it to suit their current narrative, or they view it different now bc of their outlook becoming so hate-filled etc. I loathe everyone who’s like “i was a tomboy as a kid so they would’ve put me on hormones!!! but i’m happy being feminine now!!!!!” - my cousin is a trans man, and growing up, around 10, he chose to keep his hair short, and i remember my aunt saying “oh (she) likes it when people mistake (her) for a boy” and thinking that was interesting but i didn’t think much of it at the time. they came out as trans later during high school and started actually transitioning then. the idea that just dressing like a tomboy, or even liking the idea of people perceiving you as the opposite gender, immediately makes people get out the hormones and trans agenda is laughable and false

[@funram]

@@CookieMonster1390 Well, I believe that if one considers that they are a man or a woman based on "simple" outwards characterictics, that just means they never had any problem with identifiying with their assigned gender and are, simply, cisgender. That's my case : I never felt the need to "feel like a man" to consider myself a man. That doesn't mean that the same applies to anybody else. Other people can (and will) have the same outwards characteristics as me while this not being sufficient for them to consider they are a man, and of course it could even contradict what gender they feel they are. Some cis men and women are in constant need to confirm their manhood and womanhood with something other than their bodily attributes... and if that's what they need, good for them. And of course, some (many ?) trans men and women are in need to make their bodily attributes correspond to the gender they identify as... and if that's what they need, good for them.

[@CookieMonster1390]

@@funram there are many non binary people who do not experience gender dysphoria in the body they were born in, but do not feel like they are cis. that is the experience i’m speaking of. someone who is fine with their physical body, but thinks their mind is not “feminine” or “womanly”, and instead of reflecting on the many potential possibilities of that line of thinking, just defaults to, “well, women don’t HAVE to feel like women to be women”, which i feel is why you then get many terfs saying that trans women are being reductive about what it means to be a women bc it’s not just make up and dresses etc, when no one ever said it was. i think you could also explore ideas about how women who do not meet (or do not want to meet) modern feminine beauty standards may feel threatened by trans women who appear to conform to those standards more readily/better/more enthusiastically etc. there’s just a lot of ideas to explore here, i’m not giving any concrete answers.

[@almaclara5454]

Honestly, I am start to think that she is simply a narcissist liar all along. Some journals talks about her relationship with his father, and he is apparently SCARED of her! She never forgiven him for remarring another woman after the death of Rowling's mother (despite if you see the timeline of Joanne's birth, the marriage, and the date they meet, it seems it was a marriage "not programmated"), and for selling her books for not making his business going banckroupt. This woman has issues all along, way before the TERF fall down. Trans people is just her new favourite victims, just a bully in a school.

[@funram]

@@CookieMonster1390 But even without any gender dysphoria, as you said, those many non-binary people do not feel like they are cis. I don't think that's the case here at all, and it's not something like they did not reflect on the many potential possibilities. They simply never felt any reason to question their gender identity, because they are completely fine with it. They are simply cis, and never had to feel anything for that. I don't know if most cis people are like that or not. I'm not what you could call a classic "manly man", I've been called a "sissy" and a "girl" for years without being offended (or even caring about it, to be honest), and I've never identified with the classical attributes of manliness (and never felt the need to try to), but nonetheless never had any doubt about being a man. It's not about not having reflection about it, some people are just perfectly fine with their gender all the while not conforming to current gender stereotypes and even having faced denialism of their gender by others. That's what happened for me, but I'd never generalize from my individual case. The problem arise precisely from people who do generalize from their individual case. It's not that they never reflected on the many possibilities that exist, it's that it never occured to them that their experience is not the only one that exists. They never had to "feel" like a man or woman, they never felt the need to conform to their gender stereotypes, and it never put into question their gender identity, and thus they infer that it's the same for everybody. So when they encounter somebody who do not feel like a woman and don't conform to the stereotypes about women, they assume that person don't have any doubt about being a woman, and if said person do, they consider it an abnormality. And even a threat, because they feel like they could have been forced to transition because they are conviced they experienced the same thing. But it's just a delusion. They did not experience the same thing.

[@darla1aeryn1fan]

I will never understand how people see that literal fascists share one of their platforms and don't immediately question that platform.

[@praguepride9350]

To be fair some of them do. Shaun mentions that Angela Wild tweeted about that realization that the TERF movement was rubbing shoulders with anti-women hard right organizations but she seemed to be the only one of that group.

[@somersault1123]

Communists? Mussolini's parents were Communist. Mussolini himself was Communist. The only thing he changed about his worldview was the outward focus of class struggle and instead replaced it with nationalistic zeal. So yeah, Communists should give up because Communism is fascist-adjacent. But I think you meant National Socialism instead. Which itself is also adjacent to Fascism. But goes a bit further right(while still remaining very firmly planted far to the Left side of the spectrum) than Mussolini and eschews full Communism for a much more flexible Socialist system. Mussolini and Hitler, while eventually allied. Did not exchange notes on their revolutionary idealism during their inception. Fascism and National Socialism are two separate orders even though they are so similar that they might as well be the same thing. But Socialists/Communists have made me become excessively anal retentive about what exactly is socialist vs communists vs etc. Ironically, it is Socialists/Communists that will often opportunistically equate socialism with communism. Such as when Hitler expresses distaste for Communists, they will claim that this indicates that he isn't really a Socialist despite his party name. Still others will claim that one should ignore the "Socialism" in National Socialism and instead focus on the National part. Even though that makes no sense whatsoever since "National" in "National Socialist" is merely an adjective to the noun "Socialism" and is therefore not to be the focus or subject but merely a descriptive agent. Similar to how Democratic Republic does not denote a "Democracy" but instead a Republic that possesses Democratic elements.

[@KasumiRINA]

Eh, look at Mussolini or Franco's policies (actual fascist dictators), it's not like their entire party line was about discrimination, that had stuff like boring tax laws and had to budget road-building and stuff... the idealism of trying to avoid every single platform that bad people ran with is how USA ended up with groups against public healthcare, just because a few mass murdering dictators had decent health system doesn't mean you should now ruin the nation's health because "that will totally show Castro".

[@somersault1123]

@@KasumiRINA Very true. That is why it isn't the only reason. Quite, socialists have done a lot of work to propagandize those dictators onto the Right and away from Leftism. With the express purpose of confusing people so that they believe they are diametrically opposed to dark forces past and present by supporting socialism now. So anti-socialism itself actually derives from good ethics and reasonability. It comes from the good wisdom of: "give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for the rest of his life." And while it is true that socialized healthcare is not directly opposed to that wisdom, it is somewhat opposed to it as well as knowing that every responsibility that the people hand off to the government, gives the government more power. Even if you place restrictions on government, as we do possess now, you can see that granting the government too much power makes those "essential human rights" seem more like mild suggestions. But of course it doesn't matter so long as they don't target us.

[@TheGalaxyWings]

@@somersault1123 if national socialists are socialists, then you could argue that the democratic people's republic of korea is democratic. Hitler was simply trying to appeal to the working class in a purely opportunistic way that had nothing to do with ideology. As for mussolini, I'd say fascism irrevocably broke up with socialism when mussolini formed a militia to help the italian elites crush the birthing worker's revolution. From then on, the relationship between socialism and fascism has been an absolute ideological, sometimes armed, war between two radically opposed visions of the world : a struggle for existence meant to reveal a natural hierarchy against an equality of outcomes for all humans.

[@utes5532]

And yet some people still say "Oh Rowling just said a few things and people want to cancel her" like she isn't actively advocating for and supporting awful, awful people

[@catguy4996]

She once even had Vladimir Putin himself on her side and even that didn't make her question her path. Truly sickening. Obviously we expected no better from Putin, but for Rowling?

[@omp199]

@@catguy4996 I heard you were against mandatory bagpipe concerts in the streets at midnight. You know who else was against mandatory bagpipe concerts in the streets at midnight? Adolf Hitler. So you even have Adolf Hitler on your side. Doesn't that make you question your path?

[@bobdonda]

Women don't want to be called vagina owners and uterus havers. Women deserve their own sports leagues. Male rapists shouldn't be sent to women's prison. If you think this is transphobia or hate when Rowling says it, then you have a real problem with women being treated fairly and equally.

[@utes5532]

@@bobdonda Yes, because those are the only things people have an issue with when it comes to Rowling's words and behaviors. Try not being so disingenuous next time

[@bobdonda]

@@utes5532 All of her words on this topic are about protecting women's rights from activists who want to take them away. There's nothing disingenuous about supporting equal rights for women.

[@CivilWarMan]

Rowling really let the mask slip yesterday when someone asked her how she can sleep at night knowing how thoroughly she's alienated readers with her behavior and Rowling's response was "I read my most recent royalty cheques and find the pain goes away pretty quickly." Her attitude is literally "Fuck you, I've got mine."

[@carmenl988]

Wow...

[@charlx8979]

Eat the rich? Yes

[@calvin5426]

Also comically ham fisted calling out Graham Norton for condoning rape and abuse when he literally just said "listen to experts, listen to trans people, listen to doctors".

[@LauraGrrrr5370]

Yep. Single mother got lucky, made it, and wants to pull the ladder up behind her.

[@woeshaling6421]

her writing in the potter books pretty much track her shift from being worried about injustice to waving it away as an unfortunate but justified feature of the status quo. with every book, she became part of the system.

[@VoidVermin]

How…. Can she even call herself a feminist at this point? How does she keep herself convinced?

[@SereneAncalime]

Because middle class and upper class white feminism in britain; which she seems to prescribe to; was all about exclusion and only rights for the right type of women. Nothing about it was progressive that branch of the movement actively argued and still argues against any form of progressive viewpoint and seeks to reinforce the social norms that got them to where they are while only wanting ti change the ones that actively impact them.

[@markbergin8821]

@@SereneAncalime this, jk rowling is THE posterchild for "white woman feminism", it is purely about white middle-class women lifting themselves up but ensuring noone else hitches a ride. She is very much a Conservative, its not even centrist territory. And a bigot too

[@RowanTS]

Because ’feminist’ is the name of the ‘good’ team. That’s why she’ll always call herself it. Like how those in the american alt-evangelical/prosperity gospel etc. movements call themselves christian despite being about as far from Jesus’s teachings as possible to be. The true ideology and whether it lines up with their own is irrelevant, it’s just about being in the ‘good’ people group. Hence why she hates trans women being called women - to her ‘women’ is the good group, and thus people like that can’t possibly be in it because they are, to her, ‘bad’, and that must automatically be a fallacy or else it would strip ‘women’ of it’s ‘good/pure’ meaning. I’m almost surprised she’s never to my knowledge come out with the phrase ‘it’d be like calling a slytherin a gryffindor’.

[@MrNiallisme]

@@SereneAncalime A common argument made by some of the more conservative suffragettes was that it was an outrage that black men could vote and white women couldn't.

[@fxteha4923]

unrelated but am ftw

[@goingunder2548]

JK and her ilk partially helped me realise I’m non binary. When this all kicked off in 2020, I (identifying as a cis lesbian at the time) felt hurt for my fellow trans people and worked harder at being a good ‘cis’ ally. I looked into gender theory, watched trans KZbinrs and reconsidered my own beliefs about trans people (which admittedly weren’t the best, although I was never like any of the people in this video). I began to realise how many of those views were just things that had been fed to me by certain media and people. I even went into the awful awful TERF spaces online just to see if there’s a chance they might actually have some points (spoiler: they didn’t). As time went on and I interacted with trans and nb people more, I couldn’t help but feel like something that had been missing for all of my life had been found. I started to accept that I wasn’t alone in always feeling ‘ off’ about myself and my label as a lesbian, woman etc, and that words like ‘dysphoria’ to describe this experience are not dirty words. I started to identify with trans people rather than just sticking up for them. So congrats JK…. you helped another bastard that you hate come out, and you played yourself.

[@pathevermore3683]

​@Stripes LMAO, transphobia is just the nu-metal of the 2020. loud obnoxious and ultimately laughable.

[@pathevermore3683]

@Stripes talking about souls exposes you as a religious conservative. more proof that you are a right wing provocateur.

[@pathevermore3683]

@Stripes perhaps she is just a triggered loser who cried because transpeople exist. perhaps that is why she has become the right's favorite tool.

[@shockofthenew]

​@Stripes It's amazing how when you completely lack words for who you are, or representation of who you are, it can limit your ability to express it. But that doesn't mean it wasn't true and deeply felt before you found the right label for it. Think of all the gay and bi people born in the early part of the 20th century who didn't come out (who say they didn't even admit their sexuality to themselves) until they were 70+ because growing awareness of and representation of people in gay relationships had shown them a way to understand feelings they'd been suppressing their whole lives. I'm one of the growing number of slightly older people (30+) who have realised over the last few years that I'm not cis. It's not like I read a few articles and went "oh I've suddenly decided I'm trans." I have always felt this way since I was a young child, I just didn't have a word for it. I have absolutely nothing against the 'idea' of being the gender I was assigned (I'm not just trying to rebel or be 'different') I've just... never actually _been_ that gender. None of it ever felt right. I was raised in a fairly liberal environment where I wasn't pressured to fit into a particular way of dressing or acting, so I was able to 'round myself up' to being a non-conforming member of the gender I was supposed to be, but at a deep level something still felt totally 'off'. I was never comfortable, but I pushed the feelings down because I just didn't have any image in mind of what else I could be. I didn't have any representation of someone like me. Nonetheless I always secretly hated being addressed by gendered pronouns or being sorted into gendered groups and did anything I could to avoid that. Over the last few years as I became more educated on trans issues (which has partly been due to how loud TERFs are) and as I got to know trans people and listened to interviews and so on, I finally started to recognise my own experience among them, and I finally found a way of explaining my feelings and my identity that makes sense. It actually took several years for me to fully accept it, because honestly I was afraid of accepting an identity which will get me unwanted attention, and I don't like the idea of seeming awkward and pretentious. Also because these identities are still attacked so much as 'made up' and 'just a phase' it took me a while to overcome the stigma of that and accept that this label finally explains everything I've always experienced, and it makes me feel so much more comfortable and at home in myself (even though it causes some people to treat me badly). I'd feel like I was living a lie if I didn't accept it, and I'm not hurting anyone. There are countless people like me out there. Life is too short to hold back from being who you are.

[@pathevermore3683]

@Stripes "sex-based rights and protections that have been fought for for generations, " i know it feels like generations, but you people have only been targeting that transpeople exist for a few years now.

[@nikidelvalle]

The idea of anti-trans ghouls being surprised that their hatred appeals to other hate groups is hilarious. Their lack of capacity to realize that if that position appeals to such people, their position is probably a bad one, is even funnier.

[@AriellaLilien]

They're handed endless "are we the baddies" opportunities, and every time they look around and are like "no, it's definitely fine that the nazis agree with us"

[@nikidelvalle]

@@AriellaLilien It really goes to show how far people will go to cling to their established notions rather than admitting their wrong.

[@sorntrash]

That’s not how the world works tho. Just because a group of people agree with you doesn’t mean anything is right or wrong about your views. Moralities/views/opinions can overlap between all groups/minorities/genders. The LGBT has pedophiles among them so does that mean they should all be associated with such people?? Just cause someone can be on the left or right of politics, it doesn’t mean they can’t agree on anything.

[@badpiggies988]

And the irony of it all is that her magnum opus had a hate-based terrorist group as its main villains

[@noahvance6160]

​@@badpiggies988At this point, JK Rowling has basically become a Death Eater.

[@SparkIgnitionv2]

My partner pointed out that when that woman cut out the trans chevrons from the pride flag, she also cut out the chevrons celebrating antiracism, and that was not an accident when you look at who else was there.

[@tjenadonn6158]

Bigotry never comes in just one flavor. You never encounter someone who's just homophobic, or just antisemitic. Once you've done the mental gymnastics to write off one group of people as subhuman you're most of the way to writing off other groups as the same.

[@kaitlyn__L]

They also cut-out the stripe for those who died to AIDS. Which, when combined with that guy saying AIDS was better than trans rights……… yikes

[@ZachStachelski13]

have you met any self describe "anti-racist" ( Not simply not racist, mind you.) Because they are literally just militant hateful pawns of politicians ruining your thanksgiving dinners by getting offended over a harmless joke about Indians and then cry-lecturing the family about how Christopher Columbus drank the blood of indigenous children.

[@furfoxsake1175]

@@tjenadonn6158 You've summed up what I was thinking. This is why GC can't "win" for lack of better word. Hatred breeds hatred. It doesn't surprise me that such an exclusionary movement took off in a country that's 80% white.

[@garymct6860]

@𝕯𝖔𝖗𝖔𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖆 𝕬𝖗𝖓𝖆𝖚𝖑𝖙 What? I don't care about your globohomo flag lmao stay fucking mad. I'll stay happy in a community of normal people, all with families and happy memories. Enjoy the trauma that life brings you lol "YOU DO IT TO YOURSELF"

[@AlbinoBlackHole]

NO ONE can identify as feminist if they work alongside Matt Walsh. That man is a monster.

[@morbidsearch]

TERF is a slur because it's offensive to call them feminists

[@wephilips6651]

Had arguments with guys online who claim to support terfs or whatever they call themselves because they want to support and respect and defend women but they are such clear misogynists. Same people also support people like Sargon of Arkad.

[@hgerfgr9614]

what makes you think that of him?

[@ghostlyexe]

@@hgerfgr9614 literally anything he says or does? He’s a conservative garbage person

[@user-o5msacbxo4]

@@hgerfgr9614 hes a pdf file who likes 16 year olds

[@bailingfromthecart6838]

I always had issues with JKR since she came out saying “Dumbledore is gay”. It read as completely ignorant of the whole POINT of gay representation, like she just wanted brownie points and to be seen as progressive without actually doing the work. Plus her connection with the baroness, it just adds up, you know? Gotta love that old interview she did though, where she’s asked “What vice do you despise most?” and she said, I kid you not “Bigotry” Babygirl, make it make sense

[@justineberlein5916]

Seriously. Having a character not explicitly be gay is actually okay, or at least it isn't inherently bad. For example, no one's criticizing Alex Hirsch, or at least no one *should* be criticizing him, for not having Blubbs and Durland from Gravity Falls officially be a couple... because Disney had been against it. He basically made his characters as gay as he was allowed to, with the implication that he wanted to do more. Meanwhile, even though Crimes of Grindelwald would have been the perfect time to actually *show* Dumbledore and Grindelwald's relationship, as opposed to leaving it implies, Rowling didn't.

[@bailingfromthecart6838]

@@justineberlein5916 I’m pretty firmly of the belief that gay representation, at least modern gay representation, should be as overt as possible. Queer coding as validation is a valid practice, but one that has become relatively outdated given the more recent upward trend of LGBTQ+ acceptance. Alex Hirsch worked with what he had, which included a massive corporation obsessed with oversea ratings and revenues that tries to but utterly fails to appear accepting while still throwing us aside for money. Any overt queerness he could’ve included would likely have been axed, and potentially put his job at risk. JK Rowling gave us nothing, not even queer coding. She wrote a character who was entirely ambiguous, then said “Yeah he was gay all along, I always intended him to be gay, and the way I wrote him was purposeful and true to my vision”. That is decidedly not representation.

[@katiePetsy]

Maybe she wrote a character that wasn't a flaming stereotype whose sexuality was their entire personality

[@Celeste-hl1kw]

@@katiePetsy”Either we can’t even mention it at all or it’s their entire personality” is a false dichotomy and literally a homophobic trope.

[@ivansyomkin2156]

Does anyone actually have a problem with people not wanting to date trans people because of their preferences? Like anyone of note? Because aside from a few grifters on Twitter I haven't actually encountered this stance. As always, these circles take fringe opininos and try to pretend that they are the majority. Not wanting to date a trans woman isn't transphobic, but calling them perverted men certainly is.

[@Danz009]

i agree with this i dont think thats bigoted and im having a hard time figuring out if people actually have a problem with this

[@Carabas72]

The thing is, that article about lesbians being pressured to date transwomen and refusing to date transwomen being transphobic? It's made up. It's almost entirely fictional. It's not actually an issue that happens in real life.

[@winterviveca5976]

Samantha Lux once made a point that if someone doesn't want to have sex with trans people because of genital prefernece, that's okay, but if someone is post-op, there is no genital difference, just awarness that it is a trans person, it is transphobic. I think it is equivalent of not wanting to have sex with someone just because their vagina is ugly or sth - rude but who is going to force you to do that? No one wants to have sex with someone who doesn't consider them desirable so we can go our own ways and... where's the conflict?

[@Martin35432]

​@@winterviveca5976 Wouldn't call it transphobic if it was post-op. You're forcing someone into a situation they might not be comfortable with if all context was given.

[@SarastistheSerpent]

Literally, I have never met a trans person who had a problem with another person not being attracted to trans people. It’s basically an issue that TERFs have invented out of thin air.

[@Plain--Jane]

i wish my life wasn't a political ball for these people to toss around until they get the social go ahead to do something horrid to me

[@Christine2]

There are male sex offenders in women’s prisons. This is a real problem, people not pretending they believe you are the opposite sex is not a problem.

[@sluttyMapleSyrup]

Right? We're not even on one side or the other in this "debate", we're the fucking ball being played with.

[@marocat4749]

It shouldnt

[@vulpesursae4934]

i felt this so deeply. like... why are they so obsessed w us?

[@Clairavoya]

​@@vulpesursae4934 They need to use us to advance their bigotry, as well they also really hate us and want to get rid of us. So they try to use us at their whim while also tearing us down

[@MetallicAddict15]

It now makes sense why Harry wouldn't stand up for the House Elves in the books, unlike Hermione. He's the POV character mirroring Rowling's beliefs and she's made it very clear she doesn't give a damn about actual minorities fighting for social acceptance and equal rights.

[@jdprettynails]

Yeah, Hermione's activism is supposed to be seen as silly and frivolous.

[@botanicalitus4194]

"SIavery is onIy bad when the designated "bad guys" do it, when we do it then its fine" - JK Rowling, probably

[@piccolo917]

And also why at the end of the story, everything socially remains the same. Elves are still slaves. Goblins are still 3rd grade citizens. All non-human magical creatures are still looked down upon. Nothing changed. Hell, in the new HP game you are supposed to fight against goblins who want equal rights or “join the dark side” and fight with them. Kinda really fucked up

[@orionnebula1136]

'We're the good slave owners'

[@jslimefeld]

Read a better book lmao this is still embarrassing

[@hmmmooops]

Oh boy I wonder if transphobia and homopobia have any historical connections to fascism. How whacky would that be?

[@zawrator4457]

Hate to break it to you, but LGTBQ+-phobia was frighteningly accepted as late as a couple decades ago.

[@TekkzFoB]

Nobody likes being around mentally unstable alphabet people.

[@CMGThePerson]

@@TekkzFoB Can't stand the alphabet? Go back to school

[@Jagar_Tharn]

I just don't believe in those things. Would that make me flatEarthphobic too? Or am I alienphobic for not believing in aliens that visit Earth?

[@hmmmooops]

@@Jagar_Tharn nah you're fine, you just need to read a book. A lot were burned back then, but you can easily find the research online now.

[@feliciaadams7666]

I'm glad how you pointed out how the talk about "special accomodations" rang too much like "useless eaters" propoganda. We don't talk enough about how bigotry intersects with other forms of discrimination and helps open the door for other fascist ideas.

[@catguy4996]

It's also ableist and ageist. Disabled and elderly people need special accommodations too, what do TERFs think about that?

[@feliciaadams7666]

@@catguy4996 Likely they don't think about it, they're tunnel visioned on this one specific issue and all moral sacrifices they make will work out in rainbows and sunshine. Perhaps some accept it as collateral damage on their epic quest to save womanhood. Maybe they believe they can meditate that damage and curb the tide, making exceptions in the policies they wish to enact to protect those they actually see as people. Or they actually want these groups targeted too and tearing down trans people lubes up that hole real good for them to shove more discriminatory legislation into whatever country they are in. But more than likely, they don't think about that at all and bringing it to their attention just gets hand waving or finger in the ear.

[@ameliastevie7331]

"Allergic to non-biblical rainbows" BRO??? How can JKR ever argue that she isn't a bigot??? She literally associates herself with and sends love to literal homophobes. The cognitive dissonance is honestly appalling. I will never understand. They're all closet fascists and I stand by that.

[@shinyfruitbat8024]

Hell, some of them aren't even closeted at all about being fascists, like Walsh. He's literally a self described theocratic fascist.

[@uutdiegodzilla3821]

100% agreed. Well said!

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@shinyfruitbat8024 Trans-Rights, Roe v Wade, so many Stuff is mentioned and explored by 'Some More News' and 'Hbomberguy'. Making Video-Essays just like Shaun does is literally their Thing.

[@klauskinski5969]

the cognitive dissonance playing the guild by association game is what i find appaling. if rowlings views are bad, then discuss them. dont bring others into the mix.

[@globalist1990]

Tbh, rainbows these days are as pervasive and obnoxious as crucifixes. The new puritans.

[@geneticjen9312]

My fun fact about Helen Joyce is she invited me to take part in a debate on trans people for the Economist back when she was an editor and not a professional GC. There were a lot of red flags, like banning the use of words that described terfs, transphobes etc but the most important thing was there would be a 100% unbiased moderator. That was the whole point of this debate series. She said she genuinely wanted both sides to have a fair say so the debates would very strictly be moderated by unbiased individuals. No, I’m not sure how that was meant to work. There were enough red flags that I turned her down and I explained that I’m not going to debate trans peoples’ existence. Anyway, time passed, the debates happened, and guess who was the 100% unbiased moderator? Helen Joyce. I should add this was before she’d written GC books and stuff so I had no idea what she was like. Isn’t that just the most deceptive bullshit? Like climate change deniers, having a debate at all is a win for the GC crowd but being the moderator of the debate takes it to the next level.

[@robertwinslade3104]

EVERYBODY has biases, and someone interested enough in a topic to be moderating a debate on it definitely has opinions on the subject. When people claim to be 'unbiased' they are usually lying to you because they know you wouldn't agree with their biases. I trust people who are open about their biases but show a clear effort to consider and respect other positions far more than anyone claiming to be 'unbiased'

[@Vivi_9]

Climate change is real, gender dysphoria (mental illness) is real, gender being a choice is not real gg

[@eldattackkrossa9886]

that's pretty funny in a fucked up way ngl

[@smaakjeks]

@@robertwinslade3104 Everybody has bias, but you don't use an ardent activist as a moderator and pretend it's dispassionate moderation. That's like looking at a drowning person and going "hey, there's moisture in the air, too, everybody's surrounded by water"

[@brawlinharry6461]

@@smaakjeks dude thats kinda roberts point.

[@seancarter9849]

I’m sure Rowling knows what she’s doing, but I’m not sure she can connect it to her most famous work. She’s Aunt Petunia - horrified at anything she sees as abnormal, desperate to push the people who break that mould into a closet where she doesn’t have to think about them. But she’ll never realize that it’s all in her head and that they’re her victims - at least not until the fascist groups with stupid names come for her, and she realizes that she needed real allies all along.

[@viralgayguy]

Magdalen Burns’ defense of Milo Y. reminds me of when I, for some masochistic reason, read all of “Irreversible Damage” and Abigail Shrier praised Ray Blanchard for introducing the world to the notion that a 30-something man who sleeps with a 14-year-old (yes, this was the example she chose) is, and these were her exact words, “maybe a criminal, but not a pedophile.” Shrier’s advice to parents of trans kids is also to move the family to a small conservative town, cut off the kid’s access to phones and Internet, and cut off contact with all the kid’s former friends and support networks.

[@goingunder2548]

It would be great if you could break down the whole book in a video or blog or something. Tbh I would watch it. The only people who review it are transphobes who are obviously going to blindly agree with everything in that book.

[@viralgayguy]

@@goingunder2548 I’ve honestly been considering starting a channel just so I can review the book. Thanks for the encouragement :) It’s shocking how badly done the book is. Her citations cite numbers that don’t exist in the studies she’s citing. She makes basic arithmetic mistakes even when referring to studies that support her point of view. And there are more deep and fundamental issues with the book-she interviews parents of trans men but apparently is not curious enough to interview the actual trans men in question. She makes basic factual mistakes by repeating claims of trans men having increased rates of ovarian cancer despite plentiful evidence showing this isn’t the case. She repeats the myth that trans men have to get hysterectomies 5 years on T, which was once a medical standard but was more or less totally discarded by the time I got on T in 2017. She says some really petty and disgusting things about the trans men she interviews, taking every opportunity to insult them despite claiming to respect them because they’re “trans adults.”

[@randominternettoaster7859]

whoa... transphobe makes a bad book and supports bad people? i would've never guessed! but, seriously? that makes me want to read the book out of spite so i can just see how truly awful it is

[@viralgayguy]

@@randominternettoaster7859 Don’t do it. It’s bad in every way you would guess, it’s exhausting, it’s not funny-bad (except for a few moments, such as when Shrier and Buck Angel have coffee together and Shrier asks, verbatim, “are these [trans] kids having sex?” and Buck says “No”). However, it’s definitely not available for free on Internet Archive and you definitely can’t read it there without putting any money in Shrier’s pockets. You definitely shouldn’t Google Irreversible Damage Internet Archive. (Also I am still working on the Irreversible Damage video. If I ever start a yt channel and release it, I’ll plug it here lol)

[@asinineAbbreviations]

honestly all the stuff talked abt in this video sickens me. like, actually made me feel sick. im a lesbian, and my sister fully buys into the whole transphobic garbage, and its awful that she clearly feels kinship with people who want me and people like me locked up, if not worse.

[@clsisman]

I’m so sorry to hear you have someone like that in your family. I hope she gets past it. My sister used to be pro-austerity and it really hurt our relationship. We did work our way back to a good place when she stopped supporting it though

[@HovisOats]

She's transphobic not homophobic, she clearly and deeply loves you. Try not to alienate yourself from your family over political triviality.

[@asinineAbbreviations]

@@HovisOats okay. how would you, a complete stranger, know how she feels about me. another thing, does this video not clearly indicate the links between the transphobic movement and literal homophobes, misogynists, and actual fascists?

[@christinasteininger906]

I am so sorry for you! Send you a hug! Its so sad to see that from the people who are suppose to love and support you

[@christinasteininger906]

@@HovisOats transphobic is not better...

[@DavideCangemi]

And 5 months after, Posey Parker goes mask off telling everyone "I'm not a feminist"!

[@CMGThePerson]

​@Stripes She said that to a woman asking her about all the nazis, thought I'd add that little bit of context

[@pathevermore3683]

​​@Stripes but your girl there SPECIFICALLY said she is not a Feminist. I am happy for her, she is finally being honest with herself and others.

[@ninin117]

13:20 - 13:34 so basically by her own logic she would have to agree that treatment like glasses and lasik surgery for people with poor vision (her) should be made illegal since they are liabilities for the morally superior good-visioned folk. am i getting that right? 💀

[@ninin117]

​@@soniaess28 because at its core, its as simple as she just doesn't want trans people to exist. think about it, if its ACTUALLY that you are scared for women in bathrooms seeing penises (I have used a womens bathroom my entire life, i have never seen anyone's genitals. theres literally stalls) then how is keeping them from getting surgeries going to help? what, you think a sexual predator would benefit from having a vagina instead of a penis? or did you just decide one day to use that as an excuse to hate trans women? if its ACTUALLY about the 0.1% of people who detransition (who aren't all regretful and hateful, you should check out Grayson's Projects on youtube) then what good is taking away people's resources for transitioning going to do? i'll tell you what it going to do, lead to countless suicides. like it always has. in the end, that is what she wants. she wants trans people to kill themselves. she doesn't want them to exist.

[@ninin117]

@@soniaess28 thats not at all what i was replying to though. did you even watch the clip i was responding to?

[@ninin117]

@@soniaess28 i wasn't talking about sports, i was talking about rights to getting gender affirming care

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

@@soniaess28 I mean several countries allow euthanasia, so that's not even true.

[@jessicest]

i mean yeah you're pretty much spot on. if the trans people are eradicated then homosexuals or people with disabilities or muslims will come up as the next target. that's absolutely 100% precisely how fascism functions. i mean, people with glasses won't be next on the list -- because that's a disability that a decent number of wealthy people share. but eventually yes.

[@scottthewaterwarrior]

"If I am being attacked & someone is willing to come to my rescue, I'm not going to ask about their politics before welcoming their help." I'd say that depends on _how_ you are being attached, if someone is physically beating the shit out of me in a dark ally, I'm not going to care about who comes to my aid, but if someone offers to help me in a political movement, I'm gonna want to know their motivation first and be a bit more picky.

[@scottthewaterwarrior]

@Monsieur Seal That's my point: in a physical battle you don't get much choice, in a political/ideological battle you have more time and opportunity to pick you allies.

[@singularityraptor4022]

@@scottthewaterwarrior you need to phrase it better

[@cameron6538]

@@singularityraptor4022 it was phrased fine, improve your reading comprehension

[@seekingabsolution1907]

If someone treads on your shoe in a dark alley and you think they're attacking you, you shouldn't then ignore the FUCKING NAZI WITH A GUN TRYING TO SHOOT YOU BOTH.

[@SilentMeteorite]

Tbh, this situation is more like "I am currently and unquestionably being attacked by a group of 5 people. Also a 6th, unrelated person is standing around in the general vicinity and I think they're also malicious and gonna hurt me despite no evidence for that conclusion. Someone comes along and says that they would like to help the 5 people actively beating me up, but they ALSO offer to help me beat up that random 6th person because I'm suspicious of them, so I obviously agree and provide them extra weapons to get the job done". They're actively siding with people who are tangibly causing demonstrable harm to the causes they claim to fight for. Even if trans people were somehow a threat to women's rights (which they aren't), funding and uplifting the voices of literal fascists is going to cause far more damage than what little benefits siding with them provides

[@agiovanna7605]

Even as someone who detransitioned I wouldn't ever consider not standing up for trans rights, just because it wasn't the right path for me doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else. I hate it so much when people detransitioning is used as an argument against transpeople, like hello it means we need to be more open when talking about struggles with identity and gender, not less

[@mintie66]

Thank you, so much. I've said this before and I will certainly say this again, people detransitioning need support as well and as a trans girl I try my best to ensure this and that detransitioners should not be treated horribly as well as used for transphobic rhetoric. We all need our support in these times, I hope you are well and sending my love

[@agiovanna7605]

@@mintie66 Thank you for being so kind and supportive! You are right, we really do have to stick together and be there for eachother on our journeys. Luckily my friends are all incredibly sweet and supportive too, so yes I am doing well and I truly hope the same goes for you.

[@strawberrymilk607]

Your perspective is so, so refreshing to hear. Far too often, lesbians and people who detransitioned are used to further anti-trans rhetoric. I'm tired of the gender critical crowd pitting marginalized groups against each other, and acting surprised when they attract racist, misogynistic nutjobs :/

[@kingflumph5968]

Glad you were able to try the path for yourself and find out for yourself what was right for you! The weaponizing of destransition you mention always gives me no true Scotsman. "people who transition don't like it." "But I transitioned and I like it." "You're too far brainwashed so your opinion doesn't count." Rather silly when you think about it for a moment.

[@thepanpiper7715]

@@agiovanna7605 Glad to hear it! Hope you're having a good day. X

[@briennerose2606]

it's so weird that hate attracts hate..."we hate this entire marginalized group, why are we inundated with people who hate marginalized groups?!"

[@ambientjohnny]

There is no internal feeling that is exclusive to men or women (or boys/girls), what makes anyone a man or a woman is being either male or female and reaching adulthood. Their sex and stage of physical maturity makes them men or women, not some "feeling" they have. Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realising that their discomfort simply stems from not realising that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define. This idea that the terms "man" and "woman" carry all this baggage, sexist stereotypes, that people need to live up to or feel comfortable with is a complete fabrication coming from the "trans" side. You lot want a term to reflect aspects of your personality as well, you want to create more boxes to put people in, as you won't accept simply just being a man or a woman based on being born male or female (and reaching adulthood, obviously people are boys and girls before becoming men or women), but believe you need this "freedom of expression" to broadcast what sexist stereotypes you feel more comfortable with - thinking the world needs to adopt the sexist view you lot have (you fail to see just how much you have in common with Conservatives). Replacing objective definitions which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, is not morally superior, and is demonstrably harmful, not least to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues. It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic" when the total opposite is true, they believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc. instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them. Demanding to be legally recognised as the opposite sex of what one is, is in no way shape or form more authentic than accepting the physical reality one is born into. This "woman is a social construct" thing IS the part that validates and perpetuates sexist stereotypes - woman isn't a social construct in that sense, it is a word society has chosen yes, but to describe a PHYSICAL state of being, not anyone's emotional states or where they fall on some spectrum of masculinity or femininity. There is a fundamental misunderstanding here of what the definition of man and woman means. The notion that people need to live up to sexist stereotypes of what "real men" or "real women" are, is complete fantasy. The fact that many people act as if sexist stereotypes were valid ways of measuring "real men" or real women" is a problem with the individual and their sexist bias, not with the terms themselves, as the terms themselves have none of the expectational baggage that people who internalise sexist stereotypes associate with them. A woman, is an adult human female, it is not an "identity" or a feeling, dress, attitude etc., that whole line of thinking is regressive in the extreme. Claiming there is some "essence" to "womanhood" that also males can access, but the reality is that women do not have to look or act any certain way, or act out some ludicrously sexist idea of the “social role of a woman”, all females who reach adulthood are women regardless of how they feel or look, and the one thing they ALL have in common, the one experience they ALL share, is that they are FEMALE, they do not have to "identify" as anything, they physically ARE women because they are female.

[@CMGThePerson]

​@@ambientjohnny[CITATION NEEDED]

[@ambientjohnny]

@@CMGThePerson One thing you've overlooked with your little spam posting is that by constantly bleating "citation needed" you are inadvertently admitting you are such an intellectual child that you can't even consider arguments or philosophical concepts without some "authority" figure in the background, like a true brainwashed cultist.

[@CMGThePerson]

@@ambientjohnny You really have no leg to stand on, huh? You're just brainwashed into believing some magic us v them fairy tale?

[@sonnyjim2181]

Well put

[@TheHonestPeanut]

"I'm not a bigot! I have a [enter minority token here] friend!"

[@catguy4996]

Whenever TERF's say "I can't be transphobic- I have transgender friends" I would respond with "And I can't be a misogynist- my mother is a woman." See how ridiculous that sounds..!

[@omp199]

And yet most of this video seems to consist of statements of the form, "This person is a bigot because at some point they associated with a bigot." By that standard, and by the property of transitivity, everyone in the world is a bigot, apart from people who have been abandoned in remote forests as infants and brought up by wolves.

[@TheHonestPeanut]

@@omp199 if that's what was said in video instead of example after example of their bigotry I'd agree with you. But that's not the case so no, you're strawman is just a strawman.

[@omp199]

@@TheHonestPeanut It was supposed to be a video about Joanne Rowling's friends - so already billed as a guilt-by-association thing just from the title alone - but much of it turned out to be about random bigots who had tenuous links with Joanne Rowling's friends. So, guilt by association squared.

[@CharlotteSWeb-oh7ou]

@@omp199 That's not what guilt by association means and you know it. All these people are allied with each other, you're just ignoring it because you want to be a bigot without admitting to yourself that you're a bigot.

[@oedipussy]

My favorite terf story is when there was this post on tumblr going around showing famous trans women in video lighting vs in natural lighting in candid photos, with the caption “we always know. Anyone who has ever met a woman before knows.” And I, who had a picture of myself posing with an Arkham Knight cosplayer pretty close to the top of my blog, replied “yeah, you know how cis women never look different outside of carefully placed lighting meant for videos and photo shoots. You know how a central tenant of feminism is that cis women are in a constant state of hailey bieber level blurred skin, tight eyes, petite figure, and perfectly plucked brows.” And for a week these mfs reblogged with a picture of me tearing apart my appearance, saying “of course you would think that,” or “one in the wild,” and a million other things to that extent until finally I just @ed as many as I could and said “I’m a cis woman.” And suddenly for about half of them the tune completely changed and they were trying to get me to join gc’s and shit.

[@hsmoscout]

it's such an intensely extreme us v them mentality but unlike things like race it is not something that is always apparent based on appearance and it causes a weird cold war red scare like paranoia where they're constantly scrutinizing every woman they see for fear they're secretly trans and while terrible it causes ridiculous situations like that or the lady on twitter who posted that she had reached the point where she was legitimately convinced every woman she knew was "secretly a man"

[@gwen9939]

And clearly when you look at all these GC women it honestly just feels like they're projecting their own insecurities about not living up to gendered expectations, probably when they went through middle and high school. Like, the things they say about trans women feels like the most vile, toxic self-talk that has probably rattled around in their heads for decades, and they know exactly how to make it hurt because they know exactly how it hurts *them*. To these GC women, this is all deeply personal and emotionally motivated and has nothing to do with "stating facts" or "protecting women", it's just them once having been a victim of misogyny, most likely by other cis women, and instead of coping they just became the bully once they found someone to punch down on. Literal teen-complexes they haven't been able to grow out of, which I wouldn't shame someone for if they were actively working on them, but these women clearly decided against that and projected that pain outward instead. No one's pain is sacred. The amount of work they put into hating someone so much that they spread fear and hatred towards them to the point where they're causing real danger and pain to those people is unforgivable.

[@AegixDrakan]

@@hsmoscout Oh man, yeah, that twitter thread was incredible. That lady legitimately developed a paranoid phobia about trans people, and if she wasn't seemingly out to get people, I would have felt only pity.

[@kenirainseeker539]

@@hsmoscout There's a weird group of conspiracy theorists who think literally everyone but themselves is trans. I'm not even exaggerating either. They pick apart photos of celebs and others to "prove" they're secretly trans and it's all part of a plot to make everyone trans.

[@elipticalecliptic481]

with that attitude they have, it's impossible for them *not* to be bigoted wonder how many cis nonwhite women they attacked and misgendered because they hate trans people *that much*; it's like if you don't look like a specific kind of white woman you're not really a woman

[@superdrwholock]

I remember that clip of her where someone asks what she hates most in the world and she said 'bigotry'. That's aged about as well as a 100-year-old bottle of milk

[@sluttyMapleSyrup]

Might wanna rethink that phrase; aged milk is just yogurt/cheese 🤣

[@surfmadpig]

she probably still thinks that but would claim trans people breathing is bigotry

[@awkwardukulele6077]

@@sluttyMapleSyrup feel free to eat the milk that’s been in my fridge for 100 years then.

[@DuckInGameStop]

@@sluttyMapleSyrup the milk aged so much it turned into cheese, then the cheese got all moldy and is no longer edible

[@klauskinski5969]

funny, because playing guilt by association is actually supporting the opposite viewpoints you try to argue against. but hey, at least shauns sickphans are happy

[@nicolesvariouswares]

It’s okay to not like dick. It’s okay to not like vagina. It is NOT okay to run around thinking that your personal preferences have ANY impact on someone else’s identity. Some woman have dicks. Some men have vaginas. You don’t have to be attracted to someone to respect them as a person. It’s really not that hard

[@cr3oop47]

Haahhahahahahah

[@cr3oop47]

@Alex Chopin At least it wont be from a rope in my closet like you people lmao

[@CMGThePerson]

​@@cr3oop47 Are you the baddies?

[@pathevermore3683]

​@@cr3oop47 so you preffer toaster bathing, like your people do. Got it.

[@Jagar_Tharn]

But that's simply nonsense. Biological reality is what it is, and no amount of wishful thinking changes that.

[@sandamianoyeah]

It’s so weird that since this she’s got ten x worse! Can you do a second updated part please??

[@BG-wz1iu]

Lesbian woman here, to finally get a word in, I’m a trans ally and would never mind dating a trans person. Fuck the anti-trans agenda and fake feminism. Shaun whenever you post a video I literally levitate from joy. Never stop.

[@Mwriggles]

It’s so infuriating that Jk has decided that apparently all lesbians feel forced against their will to date trans women. WHEN HAVE WE EVER SAID THAT. Trans women have always had a place in lesbianism and always will. She, as a straight women, needs to mind her own damn business.

[@Garbaz]

I mean even if not, how does "not sexually interested in" conclude in "have to actively fight to suppress and exterminate"? Like, I feel like there is a little bit of a step between between the two, perhaps a leap, perhaps it might even have been a marathon of bigotry.

[@M_M_ODonnell]

@@Mwriggles The sex/gender-essentialists insist that the only options are either to declare that all lesbians must date trans women or to declare that any cis woman who would even consider dating a trans woman isn't a lesbian. It's like the commenter in this thread with the username written in the Cyrillic alphabet -- they assume that genitalia is the only relevant component of gender (except when they're insisting on the violent enforcement of other components), and then assume that everyone *else* shares their preferred essentialist model of sex/gender.

[@Fantallana]

@@bananasplit777 sexual attraction isn’t based on genitalia. If it were, then nobody would ever become attracted to anybody unless we could see each other’s genitalia. And since we don’t walk around naked, this clearly isn’t the case. We feel attraction to fully clothed people. Also, not all intimacy revolves around genitals.

[@Gamed-dd7tj]

@@Fantallana then what's even the point of categorizing yourself as straight or gay

[@dragonite77]

"They're a far right, anti abortion, anti LGBT organization. But, they were founded in Spain instead of the US, so that's novel." The delivery of that line killed me.

[@ZachStachelski13]

"They oppose the murder of human beings in utero. And they oppose the sexual mutilation of confused children. Clearly they are evil." Try looking in the mirror bro. Insert "are we the baddies" meme. You guy's literally advocate for killing children and castrating kids with autism.

[@justinsingh221]

Its like 'how do you live with that'

[@cicalinarrot]

Shaun's got about the finest, smoothest sense of humour and sarcasm on youtube. No insults, no attacks, no shouting. Sober, quiet and lethal.

[@AmyWinehouse.914]

Ryan Tancredi - Kelllie isn't anti abortion she thinks it's a womans choice but that then makes her morals wrong in my view on that score.She rightly campaigns against children having any treatments like puberty blockers or any physical surgery yet supports the right for women to actually kill their unborns through abortion.

[@kylezo]

I also loved "That's whine without an H, there."

[@veram1545]

I'm a lesbian who has recently gotten a crush on a trans guy. I find it weird that apparently some lesbians feel threatened by this when for me, it was an exciting journey of self discovery and rethinking my sexuality

[@phrog_goddess5594]

Sadly not everyone likes rollercoasters. but I hope you're happy in your life and you have my full support

[@phrog_goddess5594]

@@TransoceanicOutreach are you dense?

[@pebblessyou]

Their issue is with trans women. At least one of their worries is that cis lesbians will feel pressured to date trans women. (edit since people mistake my comment: I do not agree with this, I'm just explaining what their worry is. Those gender critical lesbians do not have an issue with cis lesbians dating trans men because in their eyes trans men aren't men so it's still lesbian. However there are a lot of gender critical / TERF voices and articles about how trans women invade lesbian spaces or whatever, so that's what they're worried about)

[@PopfulFrost]

The sheer stigma around being any form of queer means that coming out of the closet at all is a huge commitment, and it's scary when it looks like all that stress might have been for nothing. I came out as gay, only to find later on that I'm more of a gay-leaning gray ace. I'm glad you're able to overcome that fear and keep exploring your identity, and discovering the ways people just don't fit neatly into little cubby holes like heteronormative society insists we should.

[@jordanwhite352]

​@@pebblessyou if you ever listen to the rhetoric many of them are against trans men as well not only because they see it as like a loss for their gender whatever the hell that means but that many of them still see transgender men as still women which is equally as harmful if not even more so

[@uutdiegodzilla3821]

In Germany, we have a saying that goes like: "If you go to bed with the devil, don't be surprised if you wake up in hell!" Something J.K.Rowling and her friends never seemed to have heard or thought of! ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜 Thanks for the video, Shaun! 💜💙💚💛🧡❤️

[@pintpullinggeek]

Although Joanne might not have heard the German saying I'm damn sure she would know the English version: "If you lay down with dogs you wake up with fleas"

[@brawlinharry6461]

do we? ive never heard that saying. where do you live? :) im in northern germany :D

[@ninototo1]

@@brawlinharry6461 same I never heard of it and im in south Germany

[@brawlinharry6461]

@@ninototo1 going to bed with the devil sounds fun tho. where do i sign up?

[@uutdiegodzilla3821]

@@brawlinharry6461 I am from Hessen. But maybe it is something very regional? Which doesn't mean it isn't a German saying ...😉 However, I think the version with the dogs and the fleas is more commonly used in Germany also, therefore let's stick to this one?

[@Rexotec]

Scary to think when I came out as as a man about 6-7 years ago now it somehow felt safer to do so than now. Thanks for the videos, Shaun, keep it up

[@GallorKaal]

The TERFs will be over soon. Right now they are screaming online in their agony over becoming more and more irrelevant and receiving less acceptance. The panicked cry of a dying monster.

[@BingoBongoBengo]

Ahh back then people only surfaced their horrific bigotry in niche internet forums, fuck jk and other high profile people normalising this stuff

[@LadyDoomsinger]

I am thankful I live in Denmark, not the UK. At least when people ask about my genitals, I know they are just genuinely confused, not hateful.

[@Megacooltommydee]

Ever since the right lost the battle to deny homosexuals their right to marry, they had to find a new outgroup to demonize to gin up their base. And so they've targeted trans people with much of the same rhetoric they tried to use on homosexuals.

[@pounce8843]

i came out as a man recently and the transphobic brainwashing on tv makes it hard

[@raan2115]

She could have made life for lesbians so much better by just fighting the objectification of us or fighting for better Adoption rights or whatwver. But what she did instead is activly scaling down our Community... Yay thanks rowling:((

[@BlueBerry2283]

It makes it really obvious that defending lesbians is just an excuse. The real problem is with trans people, and lesbians are just a convenient excuse, infantilising and pushing them down as well

[@conando025]

WHAt THE FUCK??? I heard there was a controversy around Hogwarts legacy due to Rowling being anti trans, never could I have imagined it being this bad

[@ElvenSonic]

Yeah it’s quite bad, unfortunately. A lot of the discourse has gone to covering up how bad it is and framing trans people as hateful, but it doesn’t take very long to dig this up.

[@hollyd8989]

@@stripes5910 explain

[@hollyd8989]

@@stripes5910 if one of your friends are bigots then that vould be the case When all your friends are bigots and you ignore it, you obviously agree, accept or condone it

[@TheHestya]

@Stripes I'm sorry if the concept of not wanting to be friends with people who disgust you is alien to you. But the rest of us don't want to be friends with people who disgust us. So yes. Having a bunch of friends who are bigots does prove she's a bigot even if it's not all of her friends. She knows they are bigots. And calls them friends. Allies with them. Publicly stands with them. I mean, IDK how bright of a neon sign you need above her head to understand she is in fact a massive bigot, but that's a you issue.

[@memoryofsalem4474]

Dont you worry, Im pretty sure it gets worse somehow

[@PlusThreeQuiverDance]

A small thing I noticed is that not only did they cut out the trans stripes on the pride flag, but they also cut out the POC stripes entirely. They weren't in the way or anything. I have no idea if that was intentional but I feel like it's pretty on the nose either way. (Edit: fixed some bad grammar)

[@davidmurray3542]

This was my thought too. Seems likely that they did it on purpose and are racist as well as transphobic? Although the woman in question is posing with someone else so it might not be her flag, just a photo op.

[@resiseven7407]

definitely not bigots tho

[@bee4590]

@@zachgoff7796 that still does not negate the very obvious message they’re sending with their actions… be serious

[@rorycannon7295]

@@zachgoff7796 idont thikn that changes the implications of their actions

[@Vivi_9]

What does being trans have to do with being LGB anyway, they just hijacked an actual movement that needed attention

[@embluvya]

Rowling thinks trans people pose such an existential threat to women's rights that she's willing to side with the groups who fought against women's rights in the first place. Conservatives, nazis, anything is justifiable as long as trans people are defeated. What goes through her mind? She's become the villain in her own story.

[@klauskinski5969]

What goes through her mind? Maybe just maybe ppl should ask her and not conflate the opinion of associated with hers.

[@scarletempress2652]

@@klauskinski5969 People ask. She blocks them. Her actions speak loud enough.

[@globalist1990]

Do you think she wants to defeat people? 😅

[@klauskinski5969]

​@@scarletempress2652 thats what you call asking by sending dms via twitter? i talk about face to face. and not some twitter bullshit.

[@scarletempress2652]

@@globalist1990 Why do you ask?

[@paulwilliammonks1]

Ive needed a video like this for ages, every time someone says "but Jk rowling didnt say anything transphobic" i always mention her links to these women. But im always asked for "more evidence" and jist the few photos or links i had didnt seem to sway anyone.i really hope that people that support Rowling watch this .

[@spyofborg]

I still support JK Rowling because anyone can twists words and show people in a bad daylight if they hate them enough. You are now seeing this one video and that is enough evidence? JK is not transphobic and this video is just created by a fascist with narcissism.

[@paulwilliammonks1]

@@spyofborg if you believe that after watching this, and also hopefully reading every comment she's wrote. Then there really is no hope for you. All a trans person if their life had gotten any easier after Rowling started this transphobic tirade, and u can guarantee that they will tell you that they are now getting more hate because people saw her saying these things and decided it was ok to be transphobic . Just as a white person can't say what is and isn't racist, a Cis person can't say what is and isn't transphobic. Every trans person i know had said her words hurt them in some way. Ergo her words were hurtful and wrong.

[@spyofborg]

@@paulwilliammonks1 Well, that is your view, here is the thing, you have trans people friends, and so do I, I have been friends with on from even before 2000, so over 24 years already. And obviously since she is trans she also has their own community in our country. But it does seem to be very different between some countries. They also hate how activists attack people. They have no issue with JK and they still support her, and a lot of trans people, specially in USA and Canada it seems view it has hatred. But that is the problem no? We humans have a VERY hard time to accept different cultures and view from even the same community in different countries. So, in your mind, I bet you HATE those trans people that do not hate JK and enjoy playing Hogwarts Legacyh and please, do not go, that is not true! It is, like I said, I have had trans people friends from WAY before it become a status symbol, you can't deny it suddenly exploded in the last 3 years.

[@spyofborg]

@@paulwilliammonks1 Ow, an other thing, I noticed you only speak for 1 or 2 countries. White people can in fact say what is racist or not. Do you think that white people are in power in Asia? Or in most of Africa? I have no idea if you are white or not, but if you are, I invite you to live in countries where white people a HUGE miniority and then tell if how it felt.

[@jacobkyle4573]

​@@spyofborg It exploded in the last three years because we've had a whole presidential term, of a right wing fascist president no less, who didn't put a stop to a national right to gay marriage, of course we are going to feel comfortable pivoting to the next topic that requires attention. Trans and gender divergent people have always been here, we just have been afraid to express ourselves until other adjacent groups won a few of their fights. Add to the exposure of social media and the realization we aren't as alone as we thought and it all spirals into a much stronger movement. You could make the same case about exposure of gay people in the media, or about the reporting rate of autism spectrum disorders, but the reality is simple, we have more data because people are more willing to come forward and more able to do so with understanding. It's not some grand conspiracy. Additionally, because gay rights became a less attractive target for Bigots, they've also pivoted to something more controversial to bait their voters with to blind them to the robbery they perform on behalf of the wealthy, which by the way is a classic fascist tactic.

[@dalellll]

I'm from Melbourne, and was at a counter-protest to a TERF rally on Saturday, where a known group of neo-Nazis joined the TERF rally and were enthusiastically welcomed by the transphobes. Today I discovered JK Rowling is apparently lying about what happened (from the far side of the planet) to pretend they werent alligning themselves with the neo-Nazis. I came to find this video immediately because I was like "Wait a minute, hasnt she literally done a photo op with neo-Nazis in the UK? Pretty sure I saw a Shaun video..." Turns out this was the video where I first heard about Posie Parker, and Posie Parker was the person that the rallyon Saturday was for.

[@friedrice207]

As a lesbian, I have literally never experienced any pushback for not wanting to date a person with a penis. Turns out that people are pretty chill if you don’t define their gender by how willing you are to have sex with them.

[@michaelflores9220]

Not all of them. Type in "Superstraight".

[@hotgaytakes]

Well said, I don't think most trans people care much abt not being people's taste, I think most of us expect that and have our own ways of handling our feelings. But people will use the fact they personally would not knowingly sleep with a trans person as a reason to be transphobic, and then when they get called on it, act like trans people are trying to *force* them to sleep with us 😂 like I promise we don't want to sleep with transphobes

[@michaelflores9220]

I've even seen someone say that penis in vagina counts as "lesbian sex" if both participants identify as women.

[@tjenadonn6158]

@@hotgaytakes It certainly helps that transphobia usually have several other personality-based contraceptives in their arsenal. Finding a bigot who only hates trans people without also being racist, classist, ableist, misogynistic, antisemitic, Islamophobic, homophobic, or some combination of those or any number of other bigotries is like finding an outdoorsy type who's only into hiking without being into any other outdoors activities like camping, climbing, swimming, etc. Shits of a feather ball together.

[@CharlotteSWeb-oh7ou]

@@michaelflores9220 "Not all of them. Type in this incredibly fake thing."

[@setyourhandlex]

Man, not that I've had any love, sympathy, or respect for JKR since she started showing herself as a terf but it is astounding that she claims to be a feminist while being okay with banning abortions and criminalising lesbians. Not that her transphobia was ever excusable but no feminist group or individual can say that's okay even if they have regressive ideas of what the movement looks like.

[@annaairahala9462]

I don't understand how anyone can call themselves a feminist with her views

[@bumfricker2487]

@@annaairahala9462 cognitive dissonance. The circular logic of "I'm a good person so what I'm doing must be good"

[@Alex-cq1zr]

@@annaairahala9462 Probably she is so deep in "trans people are bad/delusional/dangerous" rabbit hole that she sees real dangers to women as something less important at the moment. Fighting a minority's rights, while in reality allowing both rights which you say you advocate for, and rights of said innocent minority to be trampled.

[@LittleMissLounge]

I mean, she's straight, probably postmenopausal, and richer than God. What does she care? She's a feminist for herself and other women who are like her and agree with her. I know we like to pretend assholes like JKR and TERFs in general aren't "real" feminists because they suck, but I think it's better to acknowledge that some feminists are just selfish, bigoted, hypocritical shitbags. They've been around since the first wave.

[@trioptimum9027]

Hey, be fair: it's not that she WANTS to ban abortions or put lesbians in camps. Ideally, she could have armed guards examine your genitals before letting you into any bathroom without banning abortions. But if she has to pick, of course she'll never give up on punishing trans people and if she has to throw women under the bus in order to punish trans people, well, the most important thing is to punish trans people.

[@xbluebirdx]

Heartbreaking to see a childhood hero really show her true colours. We thought she was Dumbledore, but she was really Umbridge all along.

[@mugikuyu9403]

Ahahahaha. Go cry some more.

[@CMGThePerson]

​@@mugikuyu9403no u

[@jonttopia]

It is really weird how her books talks so much about how fear and hatred will drive you towards evil, so it's better to love. Yet here she is, being driven by fear and hatred into the arms of fascists.

[@mugikuyu9403]

@@jonttopia in England anti-trans is not right wing it’s left wing. So not really facism as you’d like to paint it.

[@jonttopia]

@@mugikuyu9403 they can call themselves leftwing, rightwing, whatever they like, they are still fascist.

[@arthurdurham]

*Bigotry:* "obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group" So JK doesn't want to be called the thing she is doing. It's exhausting the amount of delusional people who think what they're doing isn't what they're doing. Or even further, should have the freedom to voice their opinion and hatred towards something but no one can respond towards them. It's so hypocritical it hurts. They hide behind acting like bigotry can only exist without having personal justification for it, and since people like JK will explain their idiotic reasoning it must not be bigotry. JK being able to explain (in her asinine logic at least) why she has issues with the trans community doesn't vindicate that hatred. As long as bigotry has existed there has always been rationalizations. But if I refuse to ever eat bananas, throw out any dish that has bananas in it, and talk about how bananas ruin other real fruit, like Apples, then no matter how much I claim I don't hate bananas I clearly do. JK is a bigot and is quick to promote her bigoted views. Her whining about being harassed about it is someone with the maturity of a toddler.

[@silverstorm3729]

You put into words so well...There is something very twisted about how some people understand bigotry - "If they have a reason for it, it isn't bigotry"; "They're just stating common sense", "It's not bigotry it's [x]" On and on and on I hear the excuses. Of course the people most likely to make these arguments are themselves usually pretty bigoted, or at the very least haven't examined bigotry in any capacity. Hence their inability to recognize it. I think the critical "misunderstanding" (if we're being generous) is thinking of bigotry as a noun - something you *are* - rather than a verb; something you *do.* But of course it's not a mystery why those with bigoted tendencies think of people as nouns - as something *fundamentally,* unchangeably. You are good, or you are bad. You are a man, or you are a woman. You are superior, or inferior. So on. There's little room for the understanding that you can fully participate in bigotry without intending to. Though I certainly think that ship as sailed with JKR. So on-point with the hypocrisy and immaturity of it all... So much of alt right shit comes from - or is at least fueled by - insecurity and a need for power imo. To say and do whatever one likes, regardless of who it hurts, simply because they wish to, and to do so without any repercussions. They crave acceptable targets to attack, to feel superior to, to put down into their place, to destroy utterly. All for the simple pleasure of doing so. But it's never enough. So they always find more targets to harass and stigmatize. And it doesn't even seem to make them happy. Such a waste.

[@SorowFame]

I don’t hate bananas, I’m food-critical.

[@omp199]

You actually went to the trouble of quoting a definition of "bigotry", which is commendable, but then you failed to perform the next step, which is to check whether Joanne Rowling's behaviour actually fit the definition. If you had bothered to do that check, you would have found that it didn't.

[@arthurdurham]

@@omp199 Did... Did you not watch the video? Or read the rest of my comment?

[@kylegonewild]

@@arthurdurham They're just dishonest. They were never being sincere.

[@blubbydragon5381]

When Rowling plays dumb about how these events and people she associates with are very, very, VERY radically conservative, I genuinely can’t tell if she’s lying or if she’s just that delusional

[@DavySolaris]

Genuinely think she's too mentally ill to keep up that level of deception - although she does clearly know that she needs to hide her power level to some extent, so who knows

[@ffordesoon]

por que no los dos?

[@kaiserruhsam]

she knows, or at least we can be reasonably sure she does considering the twitter reply situation and her blocking people who inform her that her friends are nazis

[@thecaveofthedead]

Shaun has convinced me with this essay that she's lying.

[@pintpullinggeek]

There's only so many times you can get away with saying "I didn't know"and be convincing. If instead you say nothing other people can say it for you and the same message gets out there.

[@bird2793]

"I can't believe they would accuse my friend, Baroness Plantation Warcrimes, of being a bigot!"

[@Sage_the_Turt]

we're the aggressors... except they're the ones stabbing us to death in public parks.

[@jasonclarke7557]

@Stripes absolutely untrue. the real question is, are you that stupid, or do you just need to believe it?

[@jasonclarke7557]

@Stripes I can disagree with your lies AND insult how stupid you’re being at the same time. As for telling you WHY I disagree with you, is because of reality. You’re just plainly wrong. Or lying. Probably lying.

[@Assmodean]

@Stripes You just spout things, too :D Nothing of any actual value in your comments, just your sad opinions. A quick google search "Trans people murder rate comparison" proves you wrong so don't be too proud about what you are saying just cause nobody is taking the low-hanging bait. I am just writing this cause I am bored and I hate reading these opinion comments without a reasonable person's take at the end. She here is your reasonable take, lovely reader. I am off again, never to return. Edit: Yikes I read some more comments and you have been religiously commenting on every single new comment for at least a month. You are obsessed and I really should have turned up the ridicule in my original comment. Would have been well deserved. Well, what can ya do. Hope your life gets better. Byee

[@DrWHO-jv5qi]

The thing about people who love fantasy is that a chosen few can be delusional and write their own versions of reality. So, yes, Joanne is good at creating a messed up world where she's the hero and she's found her villains. And she's gonna stick to it till the end because she loves a good story.

[@theaverageone4415]

When people need *special accomodations* it's because society had neglected to include them in the first place.

[@littlefinger4509]

Blame society for everything, it's never your fault am i right?

[@SinHurr]

Want to like OP but don't want to ruin the 69.

[@SinHurr]

@@littlefinger4509 Fuckin' sometimes, yeah it is society's fault. Quite often as a matter of fact. I'd recognize the fact that you have more in common with a homeless person than a billionaire and readjust accordingly.

[@littlefinger4509]

@@SinHurr If you struggle mentally you should really think about what mistakes you made and if they were avoidable instead of instantly blaming "society".

[@kneelessnightcat9164]

@@littlefinger4509 Oh my god, I can't believe the veteran who lost feeling in both of his legs in a fight has to reconsider his own choices rather than society should be more accommodating to people who need wheelchairs!

[@jacetheboogeyman3797]

At this point, I wouldn't be suprised if Rowling started supporting Tucker Carlson or showed up on Fox News.

[@valivali8104]

Anything to defend her money...

[@jacetheboogeyman3797]

​@@valivali8104 Its worse than that, if you watch Shauns earlier "Harry Potter" video that's nearly two hours long, you learn that Rowling GENUINELY belives in far-right ideologies and doesn't understand what is wrong with her view. It actually helped me understand how people can be so bigoted and hypocritical yet not understand why they might be wrong.

[@valivali8104]

@@jacetheboogeyman3797 I saw that video. Yes, she has always been monster; it seems that she wasn’t misogynist like Carlson or Fox News, but nowadays anything that protects her money goes...

[@tynao2029]

Well yeh, that's where all the people with functioning brains go. Do you think it would be CNN?😅😅

[@Lumiiify]

@@tynao2029 people with functioning brains don't let a certain news source dictate their lives and just have their own opinions without trying to one up the other.

[@theeskrungly]

JK Rowling is a good case study on how Twitter rots the mind.

[@smolidk7981]

Indeed.

[@finnmitdrein2956]

So JK Rowling is basicly Petunia Dursley wearing T-shirts designed by Lord Voldemort to take away Hermiones rights to go to Hogwarts.

[@auditect950]

You hit the nail on the spot!

[@omp199]

Translation: "Supporting women's rights is basically opposing women's rights!" What the heck is it like living inside your brain? I shudder to think.

[@nessie-from-earthbound1601]

@@omp199 Have you perhaps considered that Rowling and her friends are not supporting women's rights despite what they keep saying

[@omp199]

@@nessie-from-earthbound1601 Why would I consider something that goes against all available evidence? It's like asking, "Have you perhaps considered that the Earth doesn't exist?" I mean, I suppose it's possible that I'm hallucinating the entirety of the physical world, and maybe that's something that is amusing to consider, but it doesn't seem to lead anywhere interesting.

[@nessie-from-earthbound1601]

@@omp199 Did you miss the parts of the video where Rowling's friends and associates are arguing against abortion rights (9:45, 11:58, 17:45, 18:18) and repeated allying themselves with shitty people just because those people also dislike trans people (5:28, 9:30, 11:08, 19:53, 23:18)? And that doesn't even get into their associations with racist (5:28, 5:55) and homophobic (7:38, 9:17, 11:24, 15:26, 18:13, 22:15) people, despite the fact that many women face racism and homophobia. And yet, Rowling continues to associate with all of them (when she could easily distance herself from them), but refuses to (19:03, 19:53, 20:24, 20:41) and still says she cares about women's rights.

[@SapphicJadestone]

Honey wake up. Time to listen to a disembodied skeleton head talk to us about horrible people for half an hour

[@camelopardalis84]

The word you may have been looking for is "skull". :)

[@SapphicJadestone]

@@camelopardalis84 Eh, Semantics

[@camelopardalis84]

@@SapphicJadestone Not really :)

[@sluttyMapleSyrup]

@@camelopardalis84 Yes really, for what is a skull missing its body but a "disembodied skeletal head"? 😆

[@starchilde8698]

@@sluttyMapleSyrup It's also a bowl if you're resourceful

[@ShinGallon]

9:25 The fact that she's thanking Marjorie Taylor Greene for ANYTHING is all you need to know what a horrible person she is.

[@DewMan001]

If that isn't setting off alarm bells for someone, that someone is suspect

[@andrewjennings7306]

@@DewMan001 I am suspect

[@krunkle5136]

What'd she do run over a dog?

[@DewMan001]

@@krunkle5136 oh you sweet summer child, you don't know...

[@ShinGallon]

@@DewMan001 god I wish that were me

[@samanthaodegard4511]

i am a trans person as well and i always thought she was fighting for free speech but then i realized its beyond that at this point. Her anger is so misdirected towards trans women and should probably be directed at her real abusers which are probably men given that she has said she has been abused by men in the past. Its a punch down on 0.00000001% of the population. We are not the problem.

[@elisamcgowan4774]

I cannot get (as a Transwoman), how folks can have a seemingly psychopathic level of hate towards a TINY minority of people that mean them no harm.

[@abercrombieblovs2042]

@@elisamcgowan4774 Because, if I'm not misrepresenting their fears, the 'establishment' (i.e. every single corporation and business, the military, and even the government itself) appears to support and/or champion trans people. Obviously this will seem as if it's more dire if you listen to one of the conservative pearl-clutching shows, but...

[@thecakeisalie652]

And they call us disgusting - us trans/enbys and then they uses the finest german eugenics quotes. As a german as well I am very very very disgusted by that. It was frightening but encouraging - I feel very normal now. I don't want to harm other people, I just want to live as I am.

[@msp5138]

Please share these quotes? Ideally in german...lol

[@FreeAssange]

Wait, you're a German? According to Shaun's guilt by association, you're responsible for the most heinous crimes of the 20th century. Congrats.

[@Jagar_Tharn]

Actually don't you, by definition, want to live as something other than what you are?

[@elisamcgowan4774]

TOTALLY RIGHT!.

[@dusaprukiyathan1613]

@@Jagar_Tharn not after surgery. and if you think that there's some magical property of gender that forces people to their """true gender""" after their body is literally edited to remove all traces of the gender assigned at birth, hahahahahahahahahahaha

[@whatausernamethisis8893]

The views Magdalen Berns had can be summed up like this: in her video response to Stef Sanjati, she said that she didn't hate trans women but also called Donald Trump a "trans advocate." Her evidence of him being a trans advocate was a clip where he was asked if he would have a problem with Caitlyn Jenner using the women's bathroom in Trump tower, and he answered that he wouldn't. It's very telling that she claimed she didn't hate trans women but considered anything other than seething hatred of trans women to be trans advocacy.

[@user-xr9kj6by3u]

😂😂 ah yes, donald trump, the champion of the downtrodden!

[@Rawnblade13]

You often see this with racism and neo-Nazis too. Many right-wing people just ignore dogwhistles and implications, saying anything that isn't blatant outright racism isn't racism.

[@sluttyMapleSyrup]

@@Rawnblade13 I've noticed a lot of that comes down to an inability or unwillingness to undersrand or even acknowledge subtext. Like when someone talks out of both sides of their mouth, like when Wett Mulch said, "I'm not saying we should use violence, but why are we limiting ourselves?" his defenders heard "I'm not advocating for violence" and took those words at face-value, immediately halting any contemplation on the broader point or underlying meaning of his statements.

[@marocat4749]

@@sluttyMapleSyrup It lik saying " I am not sayig that walsh should bite the dust under suspicious condition, but i am not saying to limit options" Like that would b a clear threat. and even call maybe. :(

[@masync183]

@@sluttyMapleSyrup I think it was philosophytube to talked about the wink and nudge. Matt Walsh says "I don't support violence but we shouldn't limit ourselves *wink*" and his supporters hear "we should absolutely be violent and we both believe that but we both know we can't openly say that"

[@ADDISON396]

Proudly in the "JKR Blocked me on Twitter club" for pointing out her transphobic framing.

[@bakoyma]

I don't know you, but I'm proud of you. I actually blocked JK Rowling. Not that she notices, but it made me feel better.

[@jamesrule1338]

Sounds like ot be a good club to be part of. Sadly, not on twitter anymore myself. Have to settle for knowing I'm the type of person she'd block.

[@tynao2029]

Imagine thinking that biological males should compete in women's sports, and thinking the other people are wrong. "I have two words for you: Let's go brandon" -Joe Biden

[@johnmartinez7440]

I'm genuinely surprised Rowling has the time to spend blocking individuals. She must get a ridiculous amount of interaction on a daily basis. Fascinating how some of the richest and most influential people on the planet waste their time arguing with people online.

[@masync183]

@@tynao2029 oh no oh my god oh no how could you do this im pissing and farding and shidding my pant oh my god you have hurt me so deeply and personally

[@spyderman4206]

Rowling is an old wreck from the Tony Blair era, a cringe mix of right-wing mentality with some vaguely "left-wing" glitter.

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

Perfect sum up of this monster person.

[@jenryan7288]

I'm glad I clicked on the video, even though it's not something I'd normally watch. I honestly did not know the extent of Rowling's horribleness! Thank you for showing me the light.

[@ambientjohnny]

This "woman is a social construct" thing IS the part that validates and perpetuates sexist stereotypes - woman isn't a social construct in that sense, it is a word society has chosen yes, but to describe a PHYSICAL state of being, not anyone's emotional states or where they fall on some spectrum of masculinity or femininity. There is a fundamental misunderstanding here of what the definition of man and woman means. The notion that people need to live up to sexist stereotypes of what "real men" or "real women" are, is complete fantasy. The fact that many people act as if sexist stereotypes were valid ways of measuring "real men" or real women" is a problem with the individual and their sexist bias, not with the terms themselves, as the terms themselves have none of the expectational baggage that people who internalise sexist stereotypes associate with them. A woman, is an adult human female, it is not an "identity" or a feeling, dress, attitude etc., that whole line of thinking is regressive in the extreme. Claiming there is some "essence" to "womanhood" that also males can access, but the reality is that women do not have to look or act any certain way, or act out some ludicrously sexist idea of the “social role of a woman”, all females who reach adulthood are women regardless of how they feel or look, and the one thing they ALL have in common, the one experience they ALL share, is that they are FEMALE, they do not have to "identify" as anything, they physically ARE women because they are female. Why should MALES be allowed access to SINGLE-SEX spaces/sports reserved for FEMALES based on their "gender identity"? If sex and gender are separate, then a male announcing his "gender identity" is "trans woman" does nothing to change their sex, they are still MALE - so why should they be afforded rights reserved for the opposite SEX? The movement is regressively sexist, and misogynistic.

[@DeoMachina]

@@ambientjohnny "they physically ARE women" Okay, then what is the physical quality that makes them so?

[@ambientjohnny]

@@DeoMachina You read the post yet want me to repeat a section of it? Ok. The fact that they are female, and that they are adults, as opposed to being children or infants. You know, we have have similar terms for denoting sex and stages of maturity for other animals as well, this assumption that it needs to be something else and more in humans is absurd, because trying to redefine the term has just resulted in confusion and an attempted validation and perpetuation of regressive sexist stereotypes. Man/woman does not describe any aspects of a person's personality, nor should they, because that just leads to relying on pointless stereotypes.

[@DeoMachina]

@@ambientjohnny You're ignoring the question. Why can't you answer the question?

[@henriquemedranosilva7142]

​@@ambientjohnnyOK, so by your logic, a 13 year old that can get pregnant is an adult. Beacuse being an adult in the biological essentially way you are promoting is simply being able to get pregnant

[@foreskinfairy8975]

Honestly this Matt Walsh guy straight up having the words "Theocratic Fascist" in his twitter bio just like someone might but "Likes cats!" there is wild as hell, wtf.

[@patrickphelan279]

It's obviously, to him, a joke. People call him a theocratic fascist (because of all those theocratic fascist beliefs he has) and his response is "that's so silly I'll put it in my bio as a joke". Problem is that it's only a funny joke if it is, indeed, manifestly silly, and not kidding on the square.

[@cameron6538]

@@patrickphelan279 Surely no one actually calls him a theocratic fascist? I've never seen anyone legitimately finger a sub-species of fascism when calling someone fascist

[@actualgoblin]

​@@cameron6538 are you serious? the man didn't invent the term "theocratic fascist", i've heard it used plenty of times in reference to American politicians

[@cameron6538]

@@actualgoblin huh, yeah no, first time for me. It seems unnecessary too, a fascist is a fascist is a fascist, the exact nuances of a particular individual's political pathology seems incidental. Fascist alone is an adequate descriptor and predictor of their political actions. Any further specification seems like semantics, and i loathe semantics

[@Discojericho]

@@cameron6538 Sounds like a you problem tbh. Its not a new term and its definetly valuable even if you don't see the use. I agree tho to an extent, generally speaking in the Internet politics sphere why care what type of fascist someone is. But its kinda like how there are 50 types of communism that 90% of people never even heard of but the communists will murder each other over the distinctions. Or moving away from politics telling the wrong person Death Metal and Black Metal are the same would result in suicide by moshpit.

[@sjk7467]

Cis people: Things are getting worse for us. I’ve been assaulted and had my nose broken, my family won’t speak to me, I’ve been physically blocked from using the bathroom by a total stranger, and as just a small online trans girl with like 1k followers I’ve received 2 death threats in the past month, 1 with my address. I live in the Bible Belt in America. Despite all of this I’ve never been happier, but it’s only getting worse. And after us it’ll be another minority. And eventually unless you’re their ideal cis straight non disabled white conservative male they’ll turn their attention to you. Please continue fighting with us. We can’t do it alone. We’re such a small minority and need our allies. Thank you 💕

[@NiGHTSIntoMemes]

I hope you'll be alright, holy shit.

[@sjk7467]

@@NiGHTSIntoMemes I hope so too. I bought a gun and pepper spray and carry everywhere after the assault. I have that I’m trans on all my dating profiles and say it again before meeting up for a date with any man. I went to a guys place for a first date (I would do things differently now) and told him beforehand. It was great! We got along really well and had chemistry. I had my legs on his lap while playing video games then he kissed me. As we made out he touched me and felt I don’t have a vagina then threw my legs off him, screamed slurs at me and said I was a man and he wasn’t a f slur then punched me in the face breaking my nose. Kept yelling including slurs, then when I got up to clean the blood off he hit me again and threw me across the room into a dresser cutting my back open which required stitches. He said I “tricked” him and that t slurs are trying to trick men into being gay. I was crying and legitimately thought I was going to be murdered esp knowing the statistics. Luckily my stuff including shoes was at the door and I grabbed it and ran across sharp rocks wo my shoes. I don’t know whether he legit didn’t know some trans women don’t have vaginas or if he brought me there to attack a trans woman but it scared me. Nothing I do feels like enough. I’m always tricking or grooming or taking women’s rights or attacking someone just for living. The police did literally nothing even when I gave his address (I didn’t think they would but idk I just felt like i should try to stop it from happening to another girl if I can). The cops legit started asking if I tricked him too and I was really hurt emotionally by that. No one is going to protect me and no one cares. People here for the most part are either willing to give a tiny bit of help, or want me &I king dead and act on those feelings. No one is going to come to our rescue when this violence goes further and becomes camps. All I can do is get a gun and try to protect myself as best I can. But to the degree allies are willing to help, money, staying with us for protection in numbers, giving clothes and stuff, listening, etc etc etc it’s greatly appreciated. 💕 I don’t know how to solve this but there’s strength in numbers and solidarity

[@moartems5076]

Youve forgotten "rich", without that youre designated as war material or to live in poverty

[@sjk7467]

@@moartems5076 true, there's too many to name. No matter how many we add, fascism is self defeating. It consumes itself. There must be an out group to hate. If they exterminate everyone except rich white conservative Christian men and have the rich white conservative Christian women as property for baby making they'll have to come up with another arbitrary distinction. Maybe they'll choose eye color or height or something.

[@AegixDrakan]

You have my sympathies, op. :(