Bros! Just had a chance to sit down and watch your reaction to my track, it really meant a lot to me watching this , and massively appreciate you guys helping to support and spread my work! Big up!!!!
@deano6410 Жыл бұрын
I just tweeted this to you, you beat me to it :) best of luck with the treatment mate.
@philt5398 Жыл бұрын
Game changer. Get well bro, world needs you 🤘
@MrDeanos Жыл бұрын
Ren. Thank you.
@jiminit1 Жыл бұрын
I got introduced to your music about 3 years ago. You are the first person that comes to mind when talking to people about music they might not know. I’m always introducing your music to friends. There is no musician out there that deserves this moment more than you. It may have taken some time for the world to catch on. But there is something special about this song, and it feels special that something so personal is the song that got you noticed. You’re an inspiration to many. And I’m positive even more are gna join for the ride
@chrismitchell9302 Жыл бұрын
Ren. You truly are a one of a kind. Everything you’ve been through will absolutely take you to the next level. My wife suffers from an Autoimmune disease so I am somewhat familiar with the long struggle of trying to set a baseline that is livable. This song…..song? Can we even call it that?! This performance was a MASTERPIECE and I really, wholeheartedly believe you are missing your calling. Let me explain. Your songs/performances are so unique that you really don’t fall into a genre, which to me is a positive. If I were you, I would consider finding a playwright to turn you music into an off/on broadway show. Just my opinion. Nice work.
@sharpy122 Жыл бұрын
One thing I haven't seen anybody pick up on yet is the fact the the spoken part at the end is the exact thing he told us throughout the song. He acted it out completely, the dance between light and dark. The more brightly his light shone, the more confident he got, the deeper the darkness got too and it bit back harder each time. Until he softened (he literally softened his tone of voice for the last verse) and learned to accept it was a part of his life, but he'd still come out on top
@princekermit0 Жыл бұрын
Nice catch. Seen about 15 reacts, and watched the original countless times, and I missed that too. Sharp eye, there sharpy122.
@adamscholes2123 Жыл бұрын
I thought this was face value so didn't need pointing out because it was pretty obvious but i could be wrong
@ClaudiaSanchez-jm1if Жыл бұрын
@@adamscholes2123 you're correct.
@dianesorensen2549 Жыл бұрын
I noticed immediately.
@johnlockard674 Жыл бұрын
The LIGHTS in the video change w the personality too!!!! When TEMPTATION comes out the lights flash like a horror movie about being possessed!!!
@geriatricginger Жыл бұрын
I have never heard 'Bro' said so many times in a row. lol
@JKBros Жыл бұрын
😂
@PsyberDude69Ай бұрын
Well, they are Bros and it's in their channel name LOL
@steelstructura2 күн бұрын
Not a harp on their vibe - they seem so happy haha... but they remind me of that guy in insta that pretends to be a grown Gen alpha 🤣🤣
@beaniepig86154 ай бұрын
Bro how’d you make these brothers speechless ren😂😂
@cliftonlloyd8395 Жыл бұрын
I have literally listened to this masterpiece all damn day, and I'm going down the rolodex of reactors
@seanlove3578 Жыл бұрын
Yup
@melaniejordan1199 Жыл бұрын
Yes! I have been doing this for days. I have NEVER done this for any other song. EVER.
@furlizard Жыл бұрын
Yep
@tracyrodgers5179 Жыл бұрын
It’s because we all wish we could watch it for the first time again, so we experience it by watching others experiencing it. Reaction videos are the bomb for this.
@lajoyous1568 Жыл бұрын
Ditto
@troy9er Жыл бұрын
How many of you reaction videos have I watched of Ren! Never enough period. Subbing 👍🏻
@stubyles1654 Жыл бұрын
Next try "The tale of Jenny and Screech" full version by Ren
@becimai56 Жыл бұрын
Definitely, another awesome one, or trilogy. I just can't say enough about this guy and his art 💕
@jameslewis9292 Жыл бұрын
Needs to be the tale of Jenny, Screech, and Violet. In that order.
@smolove4005 Жыл бұрын
Generational performance, I'll always remember the first time I saw this
@Roamnroll Жыл бұрын
I second to that
@surrayahsjewels10 ай бұрын
Your faces while watching said it all!
@cubafb Жыл бұрын
Ren's music has hit our shores here in Christchurch, New Zealand. His beats are travelling the planet. Ren is flying globally in many ways. His music will shake up the world. 🌏
@braca977 Жыл бұрын
No boundaries for true art !!!!!!!
@leif-eriksmevoll7659 Жыл бұрын
Good things to know about Ren: 1: this was performed live and audio is a single take…only took 4 tries. Video has a few cuts for closup shots, but the audio is continuous. Ren clearly likes pushing the boundaries of filmed musical performance. Jenny and Screech is 3 single 1-take moving audio and video performances. And before everyone yells at you, do a reaction to the full versions with all 3 tales. 2: Ren has been very sick for a long time. He was bitten by a tick and contracted Lyme disease. He was misdiagnosed for many years and treated for mental disorders and chronic fatigue syndrome instead of the actual disease he had. The combination of the psychiatric drugs he took and years of untreated Lyme disease left him in a state where he would spend 23 hours a day in bed. He was finally properly diagnosed with Lyme disease and related autoimmune problems and got stem cell treatments that made him feel better, but he is still quite ill. He wrote this song, Sick Boi, and a few others that haven’t come out yet, but is currently in Canada receiving intensive daily treatments so he can’t fully enjoy the success he is finally getting…though he has been watching reaction videos and commenting on them, so don’t be shocked if he drops by. 3: He got his start busking in London and Brighton, is talented in just about every facet of making music, and was signed by Sony right before he got sick. He was unable to produce music so Sony dropped him. He’s a staggering talent who writes performs, directs, sings, raps (Ren can Rap Rap), produces, plays most instruments, and and is clearly an incredible actor. Waiting for his first streaming series. 4: he collaborates with lots of other cool artists…you’ll enjoy his collaborations with Chinchilla. He also has a band called The Big Push 5: Go and read his community page…it’s worth it
@mamasaurus5642 ай бұрын
This❤
@wildalbalass4867Ай бұрын
Many thanks.
@lizl24322 ай бұрын
I just realized the “more brightly the light shines the darker the shadow it casts”. He has a shadow on each side of him and when the “evil” takes over the shadows flicker on both sides like they are battling each other and always will. Genius!!
@franticproductions Жыл бұрын
I'm 71 and totally understand the, "so I got older, and I learned to 'relax and soften'." part.
@AK00777 Жыл бұрын
Well done Ren, not often these two are rendered speechless. Great vid guys
@ArcadeCreative Жыл бұрын
I’ve been playing this on repeat since 8:30 this morning. It’s past 5:30 now. It’s been putting me in my place fresh each time.
@zoltanmarton115 Жыл бұрын
05:30-13:16
@urielsvk Жыл бұрын
Love that you subscribed in the first third, even before that really really cool stuff :D
@dropbarracuda Жыл бұрын
Bros.... thank you so much for checking this out. It's a gamble introducing a new artist, and I'm so happy it resonated with you as well as it did me.
@ct5625 Жыл бұрын
I think I've watched a hundred reactions to this song by now and only 2 of them didn't think it was incredible.
@carolineangel77 Жыл бұрын
OMG YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! was waiting.. Next Ren... sick boi .please
@laoaganlester1728 Жыл бұрын
I remember indie music having struggled to be embrace by the mainstream audience/market. Now, internet plays a big role to get music, movies and everything in the world. The hit in the 90's that was not in any major label was the Stay by Liza Loeb.
@Lou-xq9br Жыл бұрын
#ren the absolute GOAT ❣️🔥❣️
@vivienneclarke2421 Жыл бұрын
Omg,,!!......🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 My mind just blew up......mind. blown. I love this~!! HI REN......!!!
@dropbarracuda Жыл бұрын
I'm so happy that so many more people like yourself will discover Ren for themselves through the Bros. There's so much in this performance to connect with at different levels.
@melissamiddleton3026 Жыл бұрын
I would looove to see this on a awards show live. Can you imagine the panning of all those in audience & "artists". Truly priceless
@chicagoaustin727 Жыл бұрын
“SUBSCRIBE bro, SUBSCRIBE! DO something bro!” Had me ROTFFLMFAOOOOOOO! 😂 Great reaction to an opus.
@michelleknutson4946 Жыл бұрын
It’s akin to watching someone’s very private and beautiful prayer.
@loftus4453 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen your channel. You two are hilarious! And yes, REN is absolutely brilliant. Hi Bros!
@JensRandolff Жыл бұрын
Great reaction. I only recently learned about Ren and have gone down this rabbit hole ever since. Many of the subjects, experiences, and emotions expressed in his songs touch me on a very personal level because I can relate to and identify with many of his struggles. A little background on Ren that I gathered from the internet. Ren pursued a career in music from an early age. In 2009, while studying music performance at Bath Spa University, he began to experience health issues and was struggling to attend his lectures. In 2010, he was signed by Sony Records and was working on an album when his health deteriorated to the point where he was unable to continue. His illness often kept him in bed for up to 23 hours a day. Ren was initially diagnosed with depression, bipolar disorder, and chronic fatigue syndrome. It would take seven years before he was finally correctly diagnosed with autoimmunity, Lyme disease, and brain damage. Ren eventually underwent stem cell therapy in the United States, which improved his health, but it has not been a cure. He is currently in Canada for more treatments. Ren is an incredible and unique artist; he plays multiple instruments, has great vocal ability, is an excellent storyteller, and is quite the philosopher and poet. From what I read, his videos are generally shot live, all in one take by his friend. I recommend you check out some of his other work. The trilogy "The Tale of Jenny/Screech/Violet" is haunting and has an unexpected ending; WATCH THEM IN THE STATED ORDER, as this is the flow of the storyline or just watch “The Tale of Jenny & Screech (Full)” which includes “Violet’s Tale at the end. It is another example of Ren’s genius and a master’s class in storytelling. Ren’s collaborations with Chinchilla (“Chalk Outlines,” “How to Be Me”) are beautiful and showcase his singing voice while addressing mental health. I would watch the official live music video. "Chalk Outlines" is one of my favorite songs rights now. Ren's personal reflections are threaded through many of his songs; "Insomnia," "Depression," “Diazepam," “Penitence,” “Dear God,” “Heretic,” “Dominos,” his "Freckled Angels" album, just to name a few, all deserve a listen. His song "Money Game" (Part I & II) is another recommendation. As a solo act, Ren performs a range of genres, much of it hip-hop/rap influenced, as well as guitar-based ballads. His performances with Sam Tompkins (“Blind Eyed,” “Earned it /Mans World / Falling”), Eden Nash (“Humble,” “Ocean”), Bibi (“Crutch,” “Ahiahiaoha”), Molly McKinna (“Penitence”), his former bandmate, Romain Axisa (“French Song”) and any of his performances as a member of the band "The Big Push" (which unfortunately broke up) are awesome and well worth checking out, both the busking (street performances) and their live recordings. Ren has impressive vocal and instrumental skills. He is one-of-a-kind and appears mature beyond his years. Ren just released his latest single, “Sick Boi.” In anticipation of his stay in Canada for more treatments, Ren prepared some music ahead of time to be released over the next 3-6 months that he expects to be gone.
@MC_kalCM Жыл бұрын
Ren just got to Canada for treatment's a couple times a week & could be there for up to 6mo's... but he brilliantly pre-recorded song's/vid's & will be releasing them in due time. Thanks for reacting to this bros. Stay awesome, man. He's gonna love your reaction. Also... he literally visualized his lyrics. Tiny light in the back casting a darker shadow in front of the brightest light showing lightest shadow. Him being sickly/stiff, then loosening up. Standing (growing) & fluidly moving about in full expression while his feet stay planted. ((iMo))
@wetpanther99 Жыл бұрын
Awesome reaction guys, the tale of Jenny and screech trilogy is also just as epic it’s 3 songs that tell a story. Get on it guys can’t wait, much love from 🇬🇧.
@larryfroot Жыл бұрын
I've watched a lot of reactions and there seems to be one thing in common. The silence at the end as the whole experience and message sinks in.
@russellricketts295 Жыл бұрын
Waiting for this .. its fucking art bro..!!!
@catalinafang4 ай бұрын
I love the dumbfounded looks brothers. Ren is what this world needs now and always.
@Seaglassandsandcastles Жыл бұрын
Eeeek!! So excited y’all got around to this!!
@jayanti2371 Жыл бұрын
12:35 your reaction when ren starts singing is the most satisfying reaction i've seen.
@pjsebadoh54129 ай бұрын
That Hi Ren reaction was EPIC! Forced me to subscribe 👍✌️
@SgtBaker-ol9vv Жыл бұрын
Beautiful reaction…Twins are unique….
@angiedavis3200 Жыл бұрын
This my absolute favorite reaction to this video!!!!!
@Benholio1 Жыл бұрын
What did I just watch! I mean… experience. Profound
@rodb9275 Жыл бұрын
I am completely in love with Ren.
@kevinsykes2549 Жыл бұрын
This is a life recording. No backtrack, just Ren and the guitar. Just like he does with the Tale of Jenny and Screech. But check out the "full version" of that one.
@PippaHinchleyComedy4 ай бұрын
Just found u guys in my addiction to Ren reactions... u guys are great! Where are u in the world/where you from? Are u bros or twins?! Stewie!!! 😅 Subbed! ❤ pippa UK Renegade
@SidBar0ne Жыл бұрын
I've watched almost all reactions to this... & yours is the funnest yet!.. I thank you men!.. & REN is about to blow!
@jkinney0420 Жыл бұрын
Bros you HAVE to do his song "sick boi" asap!! Respect and love bros.
@cranken7210 ай бұрын
You guys need to do all of Ren and The Big Push! My favorite reactions!!❤❤. Bro!
@jesrush Жыл бұрын
Hey yeah brah!! ✌️😊 let’s go!!! Sick Boi just dropped!!
@KarriSimone Жыл бұрын
Glad you're reacting to this song !!!!! A little Background he suffers from Lime disease. So knowing all that this song hits hard.
@inahx3 ай бұрын
And this is a one take. Insane! Masterpiece! 🖤🫡
@jeffhall2411 Жыл бұрын
jenny and Screech's Tale full version next!
@bobhoskins9207 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see you guys react to Ren "Sick Boi"" U r going to loose your shit!!!
@jessewaye4028 Жыл бұрын
Peace friends! 💪🤘✌️🇨🇦
@TheGingering Жыл бұрын
You guys have to watch the full “ Tale of Jenny & Screech” trilogy by Ren. You will not regret it!!!
@infin8reactions Жыл бұрын
I just found him last week to, he's from a place not far from me! I agree the guy is a genius!! Great reaction guys 😁
@christina_ellis Жыл бұрын
Man I always see your comment to all kinds of songs in everyones reactions ,i think its fucken amazing and I think it is not only enjoyable to see that you are still watching reaction videos like a regular viewer not just a content creator but also the massive amount of respect I see from those actions. You make sure to interact for algorithms but your words of support I always read from you. And of course the intermingling of channels is always something fun to see. Your video of the ryker road guys was fantastic. If you havent found your way to jk bros falling in reverse videos tho but the pool noodle is infamous and ronnie always cracks up watching these guys. Your video to watch the world burn was the first one I made sure to watch. You never disappoint and you have everyone on your channel. Sorry for the giant essay lol but you are amazing and I feel like you dont get your flowers enough. If you were on this side of the pond I'd make sure to buy you a cup of coffee. You are amazing. Have a wonderful day , keep up the fantastic work snd looking cute as hell. 🖤🖤🤙☕ much love from Sacramento California
@danielphillips1986 Жыл бұрын
Just found Ren tonight..... Holy dam
@rgCA_01123 Жыл бұрын
Take a trip down the rabbit hole, it goes on forever! 🐇🕳🙌
@mariarainemberwood Жыл бұрын
Yaaaaaa omg I love your reaction to Ren my dudes ❤️❤️
@travisgilmore6349 Жыл бұрын
REN is .. I'm telling everybody about this life-changing stuff and I know he's been around for awhile but I found it and oh my God oh my God
@kyle1luvv68 Жыл бұрын
The smeagle comparison was so good it reminded me why i watch reactions
@mirkogiljaca1051 Жыл бұрын
I love your reaction, its so Alive!!! ;D
@aliverbirduponmychest30554 ай бұрын
Guys check his creations out, you couldn't attach a genre label to him. I believe he is a talent standing alone, he is the most versatile singer, songwriter, musician, producer and engineer creating music on this planet. A generational talent destined to be a superstar in his own league
@Spunky62 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for yall to find REN!! 😏 PLEASE listen to The Hunger and The Tale of Jenny and Screech (full version), but he JUST dropped a NEW one. (SICK BOI❤️🔥)😏 His WHOLE CATALOG IS 🔥🔥🔥🔥🙋♀️✌️❤️❤️🔥❤️🔥🎶🎶💯💯💯 It's one take! He is BRILLIANT! ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥 PERFECT REACTION! as usual! 😎 He WAS signed with Sony but the dropped him because he got sick. SOOO glad they did! 🤷♀️😁
@crazeedrummer1 Жыл бұрын
YOU HAVE TO DO "CHALK OUTLINES" BY REN
@juliequinn3006 Жыл бұрын
Bless you ren Amazing 🍾 been in those shoes off years still not been listed too Bless You Ren your amazing genius love you Ren 🙏⭐
@S-and-D Жыл бұрын
This is amazing. the end
@ClanMcDuck Жыл бұрын
I’ve listened to this song countless,times over the last month, tons of reactions videos too. I get chills each and every time. Hi Ren is on another level. Great reaction! Keep it up!
@eastisupokc8079 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ren was felt friends… …left speechless ty bros
@didierblasco8116 Жыл бұрын
Struck by Ren ! I was waiting for you to find this masterpiece ! Thank You !!
@MrBurnout22 Жыл бұрын
yessssss this was so dope! you both gave Ren his well deserved roses thank you! His story is crazy sad and inspiring all in one! Misdiagnosed with Lyme disease for 10 years stuck inside living in complete misery and pain not knowing what was wrong with him, that would drive anyone of us mentally insane and for him to turn it around and use it to create masterpieces works of art in his music is amazing! You have to do the trilogy all in one! Jennys tales Screetchs tale and Violets tales, they all have their own seperate video but he released a 13 min video combining them all into one perfect video/song! Its another masterpiece just like Hi Ren cant wait to see your reaction to it
@jonathanshoop8554 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the SICK Boi reaction💯🤘
@paulbriggs5238 Жыл бұрын
I found Ren three days ago and i haven't stopped watching reactions ever since so i can keep getting the first time buzz, great reaction chaps. You got another sub. 🙂🇬🇧
@angiedavis3200 Жыл бұрын
React to his trilogy!! Jenny's Tale, Screech's Tale and Violets Tale!! It's insane!
@chronicinokla Жыл бұрын
#SAYITWITHYOURCHEST. YYYYYEEEEESSSSS. been waiting for your reaction. Much love ❤️
@johnmcfarlane9788 Жыл бұрын
EPIC!!!!!!
@annaspurlock439 Жыл бұрын
Subscribing for the Ren journey. There is so much more and it’s all so cool!
@kevingrant7098 Жыл бұрын
Watch Ren and Sam Tompkins busking London man’s world
@peteelliott93735 ай бұрын
It's actually brighton
@johnnymayweather7476 Жыл бұрын
Ren first was in a band called the big push
@deni_88 Жыл бұрын
Great reaction guys... Ren is a genius can't get enough of his talent x
@truckinleprechaunscottcask9747 Жыл бұрын
Ren is magical, he has a laundry list of songs and videos. There are many many more, and he's not just a rapper. He's a true artist. Songs to check out by Ren: Jenny's Tale, Screech's Tale, Violet's Tale (all three are one video) Chalk Outlines (feat. Chinchilla) Sick Boy Fire reaction fellas, can't wait for you guys to go down this rabbit hole.
@endlessrage4062 Жыл бұрын
Gotta check out The Tale of Jenny and Screetch full, it’s a trilogy that will blow your mind.
@tracyjones-trj2 ай бұрын
Bros i love you guys. Ren is a phenomenon. go look. x
@meg-a-buckshikes5393 ай бұрын
I feel like there are two tigers inside me…. And they are JK Bros.
@heidijasper4545 Жыл бұрын
What a gorgeous reaction! Probably my favourite. It takes a good heart to recognise another and thats what you've done with the whirling prince that is Ren.
@patrickretsel7048 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching reactions on Hi-Ren and you guys ROCK……I’m a fan for sure……thanks
@wrxboi80 Жыл бұрын
Had this same reaction the day it came out
@lisaeaker90645 ай бұрын
Ren is making you feel with every part of you with him n his guitar
@aimeekeel Жыл бұрын
I’m so thankful that he is independent (despite the tragic origin story), because no record label would green light half of his stuff, yet he’s out here redefining what we know about music and humanity.
@cosmicdebris5260 Жыл бұрын
This is a one-hundred-percent live one take
@Parula06 Жыл бұрын
Guys, I LOVE your reaction to this masterpiece. You so openheartedly express your emotions. You're not alone, I felt exactly the same. I've watched a ton of reactions to Hi Ren, and it's truly amazing. There seem to be almost universal stages of experiencing Hi Ren for the first time: 1. Weird set. Saw maybe? What's with the pig? 2. Guitar skills! Cool! 3. [Ren's opening song] What the??? Where is this going? 4. Okay! Rappin! 5. [Therapy Ren speaks up] Wha-- wait a minute?!!! Angel/devil? Split personality? 6. [Gotta kill you if you wanna kill me] STOP! WHOA! This is... art. 8. Wow. Eminem! But not a copy, this is a unique voice. WHO IS THIS GUY? 9. [attacks on Therapy Ren get more vicious] Damn, he's totally slamming himself.... I know this from the inside 10. [Primeval Shadow Ren comes totally out] OH JESUS. 11. [Human Ren emerges, loosening the noose on the rope]
@CleoCat75 Жыл бұрын
also, very creepy how the Ren video is being mirrored and distorted on the KZbin award on the wall.
@scottocallaghan4377 Жыл бұрын
THE HUNGER by Ren. Next level ✌️🌹
@andykershaw713 Жыл бұрын
Guys I’ve watched a lot of reactions to Ren. I’m 63 years old and not ashamed to say your reaction had me in tears. May you be blessed for your humanity towards those who have suffered. Love u both. Bless
@manilj298 Жыл бұрын
Loved the way react to this content, this is GEM
@MiniVRC Жыл бұрын
you guys should check out Complete - Jordan
@brittankennell8718 Жыл бұрын
You need to check out his new one sick boy won't be disappointed 💯
@boitastic1 Жыл бұрын
I get an NF vibe from this guy especially with the multi personality 3rd person shit
@MichaelSchreiber-nd7wy Жыл бұрын
JK Bros...that's probably the best reaction to Ren's "Hi Ren" I've seen. You two are funny, cool and have wonderful empathy. I've looked at your reaction a few times now and the joy you feel for this extraordinary song is real and understandable. Perfect...greetings from vienna austria
@leejones1319 Жыл бұрын
Everyone is speechless after this incredible song. Love the reaction, authentic and real!
@sharpy122 Жыл бұрын
I'm only halfway through but... easily the best reaction I've seen to this song so far. Seeing your faces light up at hearing him reminds me so much of my first time hearing jennys tale years ago. You absolutely have to listen to the tales of jenny and screech after this!! ASAP PLEASE ❤❤🔥
@kalichinn4377 Жыл бұрын
it is a good reaction but its not the first time they heard it haha i was watching the guy on the left and he couldn't help but twitch his lip to the lyrics and he knew them all. Not that that is a bad thing its still a great reaction I just giggled cause no one can resist the beat! haha
@Cupn00do1 Жыл бұрын
There's a gofundme for his lyme disease treatment. Let's help him get well.
@georgeblanthorn9303 Жыл бұрын
I posted this on the jenny and screech video.. she sells sea shells is all i got to say 🔥🔥🔥
@adriancorkerball4464 Жыл бұрын
I think I've watched every reaction to this piece of art. The best part is watching that solemn look on the reactors face when he starts wailing at the beginning, it's a look to say I'm going to have to show appreciation to some guy wailing through a song. Without a single doubt every reactor has been vibbing out at the end wails, what a journey
@justinmuzzy4500 Жыл бұрын
Dude I noticed the exact same thing... nobody understands at the beginning, but by the end everyone is on it
@rhondap.5817 Жыл бұрын
I automatically thought of Tom Macdonald's song "Best Rapper Ever "
@fangirl6115 Жыл бұрын
His whole back catalogue is amazing and so varied . You're in for a treat !!!