Why The Apex Community Has Turned on Him...

[@j-s-m]

Who would've thought being a bad person would result in hate.

[@v_dunehill8724]

God forbid a person makes a mistake

[@v_dunehill8724]

I guess he’s supposed to be perfect and get completely dogged when he makes one

[@j-s-m]

@@v_dunehill8724 there's a mistake and then there's being a 🐍 he's the latter. You don't tell someone they aren't getting dropped from the team literally a few days before roster lock. That's fucked, that's like trying to intentionally sabotage.

[@RED115]

@@j-s-m& on his birthday 😅😅

[@j-s-m]

@@RED115 omg and it gets worse. 😂

[@blindedone8692]

I agree with Zeus

[@samaantree]

I’m with Zeus too bro 👊🏿

[@diatribeeverything]

Very simply, Hal is a narcissist. Most people don't know but narcissistic personality disorder occurs in lower than average IQ. People don't perceive this because of how narcissists carry themselves. Now that he isn't winning it is easier to see what a loser he is. People only want to tolerate him (Acie), when it's worth the extreme annoyance. His parents must be real POS for him to develop this way. He would act very offended at this notion but wouldn't be able to defend it past "fake indignation".

[@DoonaGlows]

Zeus went in on HAL and it was awesome 😂😂

[@jobnewton3262]

Zues is a meat head

[@FredzDeadBaby]

I agree with Zeus too

[@josephalmy5869]

Timmy seems to be more of the peoples choice,great streams and he not an ass

[@mpraka]

and love him or hate him, dezign is fucking hilarious and can snipe

[@karimaxwell5290]

Deffo Timmy is most of our choice

[@ALLOFTHEBOOST]

​@@mpraka from the couple of games I saw him back, he hasn't raged. So that's a good thing.

[@868kng]

Lol ask nice wigg

[@chrisl3193]

The only thing I don't understand is that Timmy said Waltzy didn't want to co-IGL with Timmy and he wanted to go somewhere where he could be the only IGL. Well the dude just joined a team with the best 2 IGLs on the planet 😂 make it make sense waltz

[@GG_iTZ_K3Y]

zer0 and Hal are snakes for dropping Genburten and not telling him, scumbag move and Hal let it run

[@ryanlafferty5815]

Hal seems to be taking all the heat, not heard anything from or bout zer0 in the vids covering this, I agree it seems like a shitty move

[@GG_iTZ_K3Y]

@@ryanlafferty5815 zer0 is gensburtens old teammate/friend, if shit was going down wouldn't u tell your friend first

[@minorharmonicscale]

So if they told Genburten before everything with contracts and the purchase of wxltzy was done and if Falcons did not want to drop Genburten since they spent alot of money on him. Then what? forced to play together until contracts expire knowing that your teammates want to drop you. Think alot of people miss this crucial part.. Its like you get a notice from you company that you are getting kicked, how high is your working ethics after that. Say Falcons would've rejected the trade, so if Gen dont know anything, they can continue atleast.

[@undbiter65]

​@@ryanlafferty5815 because everyone knew Zero was an asshole. He's never hid it. Everyone thought Hal was a good person.

[@undbiter65]

​@@minorharmonicscaleSure but it's selfish. They wanted to look for a new team while keeping Gen as a backup. The only one being screwed is Gen while Hal and zero are covered. They either dropped him 5 dats before roster lock or they didn't drop him and got full commitment from Gen all the while they're looking for new person. It's selfish.

[@ilootgames]

All my homies hate imperialhal

[@CMDAVISs]

Well I mean it was crappy , but other sports will cut people on the drop of a hat without telling them so that's nothing new . If esports is a sport like other sports it's just a roster change for business nothing personal. Coaches do it everyday... but hal could of let him know what was on his mind . I'm assuming hal jiat didn't want to reveal what he was trying to do in case it didn't work out.

[@Shadowchaos408]

I’m still rocking with tsm

[@adamodonnell7343]

Hmmmm very, very interesting this is the only comment jm liked

[@rubyrudy]

Facts

[@Noogoodstavo]

Y'all probably gay too

[@hanhdrew]

nail in the coffin was snaking gen imo. instead of sticking it out and getting over their differences was dropping gen without saying a word. they used him as a scapegoat for their poor performance at lan when it was just a bad meta for them

[@voidtankage4289]

Dude it wasn’t Hal that caused this it was Zero. Stop blaming Hal for it.

[@hanhdrew]

@@voidtankage4289 final say may be zeros but a decision was made between the two of them. in his explanation he knew he wanted to buy out waltzy sat on the sideline and did absolutely nothing. to place blame soley on zero is simply wrong.

[@voidtankage4289]

@@hanhdrew now you say “may be zero” cmon you obviously know it’s zero stop making it seem like it’s not. Hal is the new guy in the team. Zero kicked him it wasn’t Hal. Zero is in-charge of the team. Hal COULDNT TELL GEN, he was told not to by falcons even gen said.

[@hanhdrew]

@@voidtankage4289 my point being is Hal didn’t have the backbone to say he didn’t support the decision. It doesn’t matter which way you try to spin it Hal is still a part of the team new or not. He never mentioned he didn’t agree with it because he did. Hal in his own words said he didn’t even know if dropping him was even possible and referenced that we (him and zero) talked to falcons. He supported the decision. Doesn’t take a detective to figure that out

[@sherrickwalker1775]

@@hanhdrew you just want to be mad. these people dont know you and they wont.

[@FudziYato]

Gen deserves good teammates. And Timmy deserves to have Gen in his team. 👍🏻

[@mattjtx93]

Don’t know about Design though…. Gen and Timmy seem like they would mesh well, design just seems like he will cause friction.

[@jackc5841]

Timmy definitely deserves some sort of redemption after the logistics fiasco over at Moist.

[@seke9885]

@@jackc5841what happened with moist? I know he left moist I saw that vid when it came out but I don’t recall there ever being a fiasco afoot. Could you possibly briefly enlighten me on the situation pls ^^

[@jackc5841]

@seke9885 Moist had a roster shake up just before roster lock as well-- Timmy had to be at the hospital with family, whilst the two Aussie players were in Australia at the time. There was meant to be a team meeting, which never happened, then the team was disbanded. Rumor has it they were purchased by Falcons Esports in the interim.

[@emilioveliz4144]

I'm with Zeus

[@flanigantravis]

Deserved for being a terrible partner, leader, and friend. Like he failed to be cordial on any of those levels in this scenario. Wild!

[@blorbb5398]

200% agree

[@chrisl3193]

I really hope Gen does great will Timmy and Dezign. Moist is my favorite team and I'm sad about losing Waltzy (which like what? Why would he go to falcons when the reason he left is because he didn't want to Co-IGL) but I can only hope for the best

[@DevinHeida]

Hal never had to open his mouth and answer his chat. He did and made it worse, "we could have screwed him even more if we wanted to" He only has himself to blame

[@RED115]

Who says shit like that 😂😂. Like tf he was your teammate. Smoofie good god have mercy for your opponents😂😂. Can’t wait to watch him get thirsted on live

[@jackc5841]

"We could have screwed him even more if we wanted to." This implies that the amount of screwing over involved was done on purpose. And yes, you could have screwed him even more. There are some things to take away from that statement: (1.) Hal acknowledges that he screwed Genburten over. He knows this to be true, or would not have worded it "screwed him EVEN MORE." (2.) "...if we wanted to" implies that it was considered during the discussion, meaning they likely discussed the prospect of screwing Genburten out of his opportunity to play entirely.

[@chrisl3193]

You've got a real problem if, while defending yourself, you say "now hang on, I could've been WAY more of an asshole than I was but I have mercy" is unreal to me. What a douchebag 😂

[@kvrmv4k476]

@@jackc5841 Thanks for the lecture, teach’!

[@The_Wither_Skull]

Always hated him and his constant whining. This guy is part of the reason why the apex community is the way it is.

[@saleen6]

I mean, given how ass the game has been, no wonder we are saly like this, I reckon that one is not on Hal but more so on EA, Sweet said it perfectly, everything fell apart when he left TSM

[@walkermott1750]

@@saleen6 The problem is Hal knows the Devs favor comp over everyone else and he uses that power to get what he wants. He doesn't have the restraint to say "Yes I don't like X thing but it's fine and should be left alone". Instead he cries every stream about X thing that he doesn't like until the Devs do what he wants. This could be solved by ranked having different balancing than normal matches though which makes sense because ranked is played entirely different from the actual game

[@nvmb6451]

@@walkermott1750 they do not favour comp, youre just delusional. shut up.

[@blorbb5398]

I never liked him, he was and is constantly disrespecting his mates. Everybody makes mistakes, I make mistakes, when I point out mistakes of others, I do it in the softer way possible, if a guy has no fix, time to play with other people, but respecting him. Hal always believed he was so special, he needs some humbling.

[@bryandelacruz413]

​@@blorbb5398 that's i saying and i don't like Hal hes be nothing then a douchebag and i never i like him too because he does get that people make mistakes are good because it makes a team stronger but again end of day games is to have fun if people don't see that then why play the game.

[@oscarnava4190]

I never liked hal to begin with

[@NetSurfer09]

Biggest asshole! Without no doubt He is one of the best Players but his personality is shit!

[@Wesley_Smothermon]

Same

[@snuggleseal]

Me neither. He only gained some of my respect for continuing playing with cheats cos it helped expose the cheater situation all of us were going thru. But even then he didn't keep playing for us so it's a bit of a moot point.

[@420666natas]

He's an arrogant. Little prick thinks he's so good

[@tomhack4318]

With Reps and Evan there was an emotional balance within TSM - now that Hal teamed up with Zero, for the Life of me, i couldnt answer who is the worse person to get along with .

[@mostwanted8743]

Once he pulled that stunt, I no longer support him.

[@invasivepenguin8560]

What did he even do

[@ZorrowTasogare92]

I do still support big E and reps with TSM

[@Lunatic5306]

How did you used to glaze hi? I mean support him and who are you glazing now? I mean supporting?

[@alonzor557]

You know how you avoid these kind of situations? You step up and be a man.

[@soccerguy2433]

It's even easier. Be professional...

[@akuto5961]

He doesn't get that even if he wins he is still a snake.

[@mypubsonyoheadson]

Kevin Durant is a snake and loved lmao

[@seke9885]

@@mypubsonyoheadson (tldr: No Hal is a snake, and KD just isn’t.) KD is not a snake. Just like rappers and hoppers. They don’t go in tandem but yet and still those two different, (follow along with me here) “Hobbies, Sports and most importantly JOBS” come with the…Job. He is a businessman, he would not be hopping in the nba period if he wasn’t getting paid what HE felt he deserved. I don’t care what anyone says, if you find yourself in KD’s position or Lebron (especially these two) not to mention they’ve been in the league way longer than a lot of these new ballers, and have had at that same extension more time in the league to harden their craft and skill. To still drop 30+ points regularly every game, not to mention still preforming better than a majority of your roaster (a roaster that someone like bron and KD have a say so in because the league knows damn well, they are star players. And they know that cause of how consistently good, you have to be as a player to have stats like those two do year in and year out regardless of what team they’re on, what year it is, and what team they’re against. Atp, if I know that I’m Lebron or KD I’m trading dudes that can’t do nothing for me. Why tf would I not request a trade for myself if my team just showed me no matter what I do it’s always gonna be on my back. Or trade teammates out that aren’t giving any value. You’ll get traded off to a different team and still got a good contract, and still be a millionaire. Regardless I say all of this to say that what he did was business. They may have been cool looking on the court but I promise a majority of these dudes once the game done and the after party over these dudes is not going over to each others houses, playing on the video game for endless hours.(maybe they are I just personally highly doubt that). What Hal did, was just an ahole move. He could’ve just told him straight up because like gen said he told him “no there are no new changes to the team when he asked him” that is clear cut and dry snake. And im happy this did happen cause gen deserve better, Falcons going forward especially with the new additions of this designer dude. They’ll more than likely regret screwing over gen in the end when they don’t even get a top 10 placement :) (I’ve been awake since 9am yesterday, If there’s errors in this post just know… that’s why lol)

[@tiktokatnight7364]

@@mypubsonyoheadson- careful, these dweebs don’t know actual sports

[@speakofthedevil5656]

To be honest,Hal is an excellent gamer and a good strategist and that's it.He has a bad attitude filled with arrogance and he is too narcissistic that he never forget to look down on his own teammates and put all the blame on them.Even now he is blaming the community for hating him.I really don't hate him .I just never had a reason to like him.

[@giandani8064]

All Hal does is complain about legend balancing. game doesn’t revolve around you bub

[@jackc5841]

What are you talking about?! ALGS players are "the backbone of the community," remember? OF COURSE the game revolves around him! It'd be foolish to think that the game actually revolves around the millions of players that support it, and, more importantly in this discussion, him and his streams. Everyone knows that ALGS would be more successful without spectators and that Hal's streams would be even more popular if nobody watched them.

[@panduhh_]

Literally. All the time

[@VAs_B.A.T]

Now that his ass is gone I can root for TSM.

[@TH3BLUENEBULA]

I don’t usually hate but never liked him

[@anon-mx4jx]

What the hell, you need to tell him that you are thinking about dropping him when you start planning to drop him not when you are sure that he is replaced. That’s the whole point.

[@invasivepenguin8560]

So why is hal being blamed, he didn’t own the team

[@AdamSlander888]

@@invasivepenguin8560 because Hal knew the entire time and gen had to find out from someone who wasn’t even on the team 5 days before the goddamn tourney

[@SCandGA]

All the drama is the only thing keeping this game alive lol

[@LeMimePug]

The team should change the name to Snakes.

[@Return_of_the_Dude]

Fitting

[@Vurgale]

It's not the teams fault that Hal is a bad person😭🙏

[@georgemcgraner9939]

never liked him

[@crimemafiafamily4352]

He's a crybaby Pros like the rest of them

[@samaantree]

HAL deserves all the hate - I mean who needs friends when you only look after #1 and care about yourself?!? Right?!?? - no wonder his ex girlfriend left him 🤣🤣🤣🤣 😈

[@ZorrowTasogare92]

And he will probably still be friends with her like a total sucker 🤦🏻‍♂️ Never be friends with an ex or have contact unless you have kids with such ex's

[@JohnSmith-zk3kd]

tbf she lived in canada

[@permaskunked]

​@@ZorrowTasogare92she getting the D and P from RP streamers now lol

[@tomhack4318]

There are two points missed out in the video that are influencing peoples opinion on Hal emotionally. 1. Hal is toxic and insulting - that has always been issue with a lot of people. 2. Hal became too much business like (along with Zero) - they got their oilmoney and dropped their third mate a few days before rosterlock. All the thoughts about the - why and when - displayed the professionalism and lacking emotionality they "handled the Gen business" with. Means, Apex is still a game, its a hobby for most that we watch and play. Very few people make money with it and thats Ok. I get thats some kind of business for them in their early 20s for 4 or 5 years. Thats not something new. But this "business" getting dirty and rubbed into peoples faces THAT directly including Oilmoney and dirty dropping followed by professional managerial excuses - well, I would guess it took a lot people by suprise how f*ck*d up also this business can be. Hal and Zero with Falcons are simply mirroring this new reality that heavily separates the childhood hero on your favorite game from old mans, cold business.

[@VAs_B.A.T]

I’ve always hated Hal and still will

[@Errburritoes]

Let's just tell it as it is they tried to make him miss his spot a dog act from Hal, I hope Gen's new team melt them

[@itz_chris01]

Hes a bum. Thats why.

[@captainaizen4866]

I like how people just exposed them hating on Hal for no reason what so ever. I've watched him since the beginning and if you think Hal deliberately Fuked up Gen you obviously don't know about their friendship. It's like people were waiting for an opportunity to hate on him and then a spineless KZbin (Zues) made a video focusing on him because Falcons dropped Gen? Let's rewind that, a player who joined new...gets the blame for Falcons dropping Gen. People who say "Oh Hal could have told Gen", Hals role in Falcons is not to manage the team. Are you all telling he should do that? If he did then everyone would say "Hal is trying to steal IGL from Zer0, he is a bum." Another thing, Hal did not want gen to leave. He can't say it out loud because his opinion did not matter since the issue was between Zer0 and Gen. Your siblings are fighting, your parents instead of separating them decided to ground you instead. How effective would that be in stopping the fight between your siblings? Thats exaclty what was happening. Hal repeatedly said his opinion did not matter since the issue was between them and regardless of Hal's decision the issue would still remain unless Gen and Zer0 solves it, which Zer0 obviously did not. Cut that man some slacks, if this was TSM and Hal was in charge of the team 100% He deserves all the flame coming his way. But this guy did not want to be part of any Drama, yet people are blaming him.

[@itz_chris01]

@captainaizen4866 I personally never liked him. I recognize him as a player but that's it.

[@terribletito11]

I haven’t played this game in like 2 years but I’m not surprised at all about this. Something about Hal always rubbed me the wrong way

[@Ballistic-vn6em]

He's trying to explain himself but he knows what he did, he knows. Snake.

[@trayt4685]

Hal obviously lied to him when he asked. I have no sympathy for the hate he's getting. Could've giving the guy more time to find a new team or at least another chance to prove himself. I honestly just cringe at anything centered in Apex at this point. Put a fork in it.

[@NS4W_l3xz]

When the real OG spoke up and posted his vid.. it all went 0-100 real quick. Thanks zeus the real President of apex legends

[@theskiff]

2:37 ex-SSG was not a superteam. Phony had never won a major lan event, nor had Koyful, and Xynew had only ONE major lan event win under his belt. Your logic makes no sense. Going based off your logic that would make the new TSM roster a superteam and would be closer to a superteam more than ex-SSG are. A superteam is a team that only has players with MULTIPLE LAN WINS/ACHIEVEMENTS under their belt.

[@rohithftw2187]

JMeyels has no original thoughts. He just regurgitates what pros say. There were pros who were calling SSG a superteam for whatever reason.

[@Swivelsix]

A super team is a team of the best players in the world. Past performance doesn’t mean you’re the best currently

[@JustLikeYou.]

The 2011 heat were a super team. Idk maybe it’s defined differently in esports but regular sports a “super team” is just a team with some of if not these best players

[@jackc5841]

Actually "superteam" is a made-up term that doesn't have a dictionary definition, therefore, the definition of "superteam" is subjective, making both of you technically correct. Multiple LAN wins doesn't mean anything, given that even amateur players can win LAN tourneys (I've seen both Faide and LuluLuvely take home victories at LAN events). Multiple ALGS titles would likely be a better metric, but likely doesn't fit the narrative you're trying to present here.

[@xTheDarkOneTTVx]

I definitely lost all respect for him. Firstly for ditching TSM for human rights violating oil money and now for him doing more scum bag shit like this.

[@xanem.wilson5933]

Originally an NRG fan however converted to TSM when I saw the passion displayed by Hal and the lack thereof by Sweet. Gen being the type of person he is, did not deserve to be treated that way especially knowing that he initially asked if there were going to be changes to which he was told “no”. To make matters worse, not only was he dropped and replaced, he had to find out from someone outside of his team/org. How do you treat teammates that way? Basically ‘pissed on him and told him it’s rain’. Personally I think it was done that way to ensure he does not have a team before roster lock so as to lesson the competition themselves. Both Hal and Zero need to publicly apologize to Gen imo

[@planetdank]

We got a new CEO-Big E 🎉

[@jackc5841]

More like the people now recognize their rightful king-- Verhulst has always been the CEO, Hal was just too loud for anyone to notice before.

[@chrisvazquez_ftw]

Ivw never liked the guy, respawn seemingly bends to his will Everytime he opens his whiney mouth

[@jackc5841]

Most operative word: whiney.

[@868kng]

They never liked him. He was just winning so they couldn’t talk trash.

[@BigHuskyGG]

I don't like Hal because he is constantly crying about everything. Bro is literally the Ninja of Apex when it comes to crying.

[@The_Wither_Skull]

@@BigHuskyGG fr

[@sultur3531]

lol this literally happens in every e sport dropped without getting talked to

[@jackc5841]

Slavery and genocide happen all the time without us knowing about it too, doesn't make either of them OR Hal's behavior acceptable. This is an issue that needs to be addressed industry-wide if it's happening in every e-sport. It's bad business, and ruins the credibility of your org and players.

[@Ballistic-vn6em]

@@jackc5841 I didn't like what Hal did and he's a snake but I think you went too far hahaha

[@jackc5841]

@@Ballistic-vn6em Just making the point as clear as possible. Didn't mean it to offend anyone; apologies if it did.

[@LilSpookyyy]

@@jackc5841lmfao bro slavery and genocide 😂😂😂😂😂 it’s not that deep Jack

[@jackc5841]

@LilSpookyyy Somehow, everyone thinks I was trying to draw some manner of equivalency between the things. The point is that things happen all the time that we don't know about, but have serious negative repercussions regardless. Just because something like this has become commonplace doesn't mean that we should cease paying attention to it. Quite the opposite, in fact; if this professional practice has become so common, it should garner more attention, not less.

[@TacDonut556]

i honestly dont like gen so my onlu question is why is gen not mad at zero?

[@MDPTheReal]

Hal is a crybaby. Imagine making as much money he does doing what many people dream of doing and complaining every time.

[@danielg3430]

People have been feeling this way for atleast 1-2 years

[@ohyababyohyea]

"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain" 🎉😂

[@IIHydraII]

He's insufferable imho

[@jesusc.1116]

Dropping Gen from your pro team is diabolical, even for someone like Hal and zero

[@shandromand1675]

Hal did Gen dirty and had no shame doing it. Nimitz Class DoucheCanoe behavior.

[@zachdavis372]

They should not have treated Gen like that. Disrespectful

[@illuminate427]

He's a narcissist with no loyalty. Very unlikable person.

[@EZForMeNotForU]

Never liked him in tsm, dislike him even more now. What a snake

[@toniyourcuzzin]

What can you expect from an almond, the guy is dead inside

[@SamStraker]

I agree with Zeus.... dude stated the facts

[@orionsdetailing]

Bunch of kids with money that wouldnt square up IRL.

[@michaelmikkelsen5632]

Just let them hate Imperialhal....he will still be one of the best gamers ....

[@thato8000]

Loved his skills but i never liked Hals personality from the start

[@jesusc.1116]

Zero and hal doing damage control after LAN. They trying to stay on falcons, and had to severe an arm. If they lose this next split idk how well that's gonna go for them.

[@jackc5841]

If they lose it's going to be full roster flip and they'll both be looking for new teams-- Hal might have trouble finding one given that he just destroyed what little credibility he had left

[@ultimatearchfiend2293]

You guys know what people love to talk about or see from superheroes? It's their failure or death

[@AndrezeSellers]

Is rather you die as a hero or living long enough to become a villain

[@chrisl3193]

That line Hal said about "if I wanted to be a REAL piece of sh*t I could've done this but I didn't" Making an argument that you could've been a bigger a-hole but didn't is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Most of us try to be a decent human being Hal. We don't measure ourselves on things we could've done to make it worse, like you were being merciful or some sh*t. Ive always liked Hal despite his obvious unlikable qualities but he's just not a good dude. He doesn't care about anyone but himself and then gets mad when fans don't care about him. Extremely low emotional intelligence and way too big of an ego. Dude needs to be humbled

[@itscraigagain1024]

have no clue why hal was a "fan favourite" in the first place, the guy has always been a terrible person to everyone around him

[@armaniesingletary8979]

Honestly i dont want to hear it from Hal every last damn one of his prior teammates have dealt with it . VEHULST SNIPEDOWN REPS and ALBRALELIE! Your voice needed to be louder when those guys went through it but you werent.

[@rym7174]

That 20th place has crushed him

[@Luluthecat-22]

Facone is already the most hated team in apex com. Then Hal and his dum as go and join them to make a “super team” and then crumble like a piece of trash. That why his lost most of his fans!🤔

[@mattesselmann31]

Turns out being an asshole to teammates or to people in general is not liked. Go figure.

[@PapaMorty-]

Same reason people hate Kevin Durant bro. Same reason.

[@Destruction52]

I am a hal fan and still hated the moment he joined with Zero, they ruined that rivalry and Made a superteam which in pretty much all sports it fails 99% of the time. Last LAN was weird, they had probably the best 3v3 team in the World yet they tried to play along the meta and went horrible.

[@jasonbooysen9697]

The" heel of the community" thats how i know he Watches Wrestling

[@alexd5674]

He was hard for me to listen to. Berating teammates and a lot of whining

[@d1freeryda]

Was never my favourite and always thought he was a snake. Zeus called it right with Hal, especially after the Gen scenario. He deserves what is coming to him.

[@prodAUROR]

Hal definitely has fallen from the heavens

[@jackc5841]

Wasn't anything heavenly about Hal in the first place

[@prodAUROR]

@@jackc5841 You didn't get it.

[@jackc5841]

@@prodAUROR Nothing to get. Your comment was nonsense. You can't fall from somewhere you've never been, simple as that.

[@prodAUROR]

@@jackc5841 LMAO clown. Its a play on what was said when he won one of the champs. Its not that deep you tyrant.

[@sentyze235]

What happened at ALGS NA Split 1 po 2022? I'm confused.

[@ducasse8473]

Whoa is that thumbnail current? Why does imperialhal look so.... Large.

[@xBRAAAPx]

After this is all said and done, I'm glad Gen is off that team, he's a good guy. He deserves better anyways...

[@mankovitch1130]

hope this will wake up ea to never cater to them baby shit that easily

[@KpopsKitty]

So why is no one talking about Zero as a part of this? They as a team did Gen dirty

[@dcook8319]

No matter how good you are at what you do you have to be at least a decent likeable human

[@akumaschannel8507]

If the community muted Hal and Sweet the community would be a much better place

[@melodicXDXD]

bro saw the writing on the wall.. the game is dying, might as well sign for the biggest bag possible to milk the game for as much $$ as possible..

[@ggcrunchyz]

I feel like it’s simple. Zero and Hal weren’t going to tell Gen anything until they knew they could lock in Waltzy. They found out on Gens b day. Decided not to ruin his bday with bad news. Timmy tells Gen about being dropped before Hal or Zero could. Did I get that right?

[@mattjtx93]

This is a common theme with Hal, his departure from TSM was handled poorly as well. Beyond apex the dude just isn’t worth the ground he stands on. That said the drama is good for the esport. People will tune in to see Hal v Gen & Evan

[@ROKE_89]

Verhulst is the new CEO

[@ImNotOceanz]

I can’t wait for design to be back to where he was because he did take a long break

[@redtesta]

he was never really like at all. there is a list of reasons why they have finally turned him. ive lost count.

[@Baileybransby]

All this comes down to like making a good relationship work you gotta communicate which zero, Hal and falcons did not do 😢

[@zacharyknight8949]

Hal had plenty of haters before all this, always whining or blaming others for losing fights or downplaying opponents when they outplay him...

[@Jesusislord12345]

Hal’s cooked. Genburten is the new CEO

[@DeadPixelCreatives]

Well, this is what you get from combining two DB players run in the same team. Zero and Hal are great apex players, but let's face it, they have DB personalities by nature.

[@balliq7826]

i just feel like its more zeros responsibilty to tell him more than Hals. Zero played with him much longer and Hal said they were having issues. Zero is the true snake and Hal is just Beta when it comes to IRL situations.

[@jackc5841]

Completely unprofessional up and down the org-- if management didn't tell him, you'd think one of his teammates would have enough respect to let him know. Turns out they're ALL snakes, hm?

[@John.graef117]

Timmy a Legend

[@HdhdbxHdhdud]

Duuuude i love this style of video. Idk it's different but i like it

[@RamenFuel7700]

Zero and Hal cut from the same cloth.

[@medea27]

Sounds like Hal handled this really unprofessionally, so I hope he's actually taking feedback onboard & not just waving it all off as "hate." He may be young with little business experience, but once you start messing with people's careers you need to step up... leaving your player in the dark about dropping him _"because it was his birthday"_ is wrong. Full stop. We're not talking about ruining a kid's party here... it's disrespectful to leave your colleague unaware of changes that directly impact them, and even worse to run down the clock on their options without their knowledge. That type of thing can actually land you in legal hot water in business, so Hal & his associates would do well to learn from this. Glad to hear Genburten managed to find a team in time. 👍

[@TheOJsimp]

Timmy , dizzy , ratchet , I temp , gaming merchant , you , shit I’d rather watch nick mercs play apex than Hal lol 😂 or better timthe fat man 😮 He’s like shroud if shroud wasn’t good

[@ZorrowTasogare92]

Zeus is a good friend, he sometimes plays off stream with Jankz so mfs can't stream snipe jankz and ruin his recordings while playing with Zeus Rachet, sooxfar, Jankz, etc they're good players and good people at least their ego is not up their ass like zero or Hal 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Lunatic5306]

Or you could touch grass😂

[@jackc5841]

I'd rather watch Dr. Disrespect than Hal that should say enough😒 EDIT: this is not to imply that I would watch or support Dr. Disrespect in any way, shape, or form. I find it disgusting that he's making a second attempt at a career now.

[@Lunatic5306]

@@jackc5841 who are you? No one cares what you do

[@teratism.1]

@@Lunatic5306 Who are you?

[@cristianhernandez1719]

That's messed up what they did to genburten

[@BowlOfStainlessSoup]

Ive been saying for years that Hal is a TERRIBLE person, glad he's finally getting the hate and criticism he deserves

[@DoonaGlows]

Went from CEO to Snake

[@ozzyox7090]

Regardless if it was Gen’s birthday or not delivering bad news last second like that is not official in my book. 6:00

[@Zayotix]

Regardless Hal still has the most decorated pro career on Apex. Love him or hate him, he’s the goat until surpassed statistically.

[@KissinTheHomiesGoodnight1]

Team Falcons is Team Rats now