Joan Crawford Christmas

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crpeoplemover

crpeoplemover

18 жыл бұрын

1949 radio show "Christmas Eve at home with Joan Crawford and her children"

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@AuntBarbara
@AuntBarbara 17 жыл бұрын
"They have to earn their gifts" Because that is what Christmas is all about!
@anneelizabeth6001
@anneelizabeth6001 3 жыл бұрын
I kept waiting for one of the kids to whisper "send help"
@chevydude658
@chevydude658 3 жыл бұрын
"Christmas cant really be enjoyed without children...to take gifts away from. Then, when the tree is all lit, I force them to give up things they really love. Then I teach them that they're not truly worthy of gifts or love, but rather, they must earn love and said gifts. Because if this doesn't teach the true spirit of Christmas, nothing will."
@JudgeJulieLit
@JudgeJulieLit 2 жыл бұрын
Christmas, birth anniversary of Jesus, who gave up His life for his love of humanity, for free.
@jacobmyers5204
@jacobmyers5204 3 жыл бұрын
Damn Christopher still hasnt received all of his gifts since his birthday in October. She held the gifts hostage.
@richardc7869
@richardc7869 4 жыл бұрын
Is that the present you like best? .....then that’s the one you can keep!
@jkvelasquez84
@jkvelasquez84 2 жыл бұрын
This time we'll make an exception
@deniawiseone95
@deniawiseone95 2 жыл бұрын
@@jkvelasquez84 After that l wud have asked to be sent the hell back.
@sel3248
@sel3248 2 жыл бұрын
Good or Bad she gets the attention. Always on people's minds. They will watch/ listen & comment from a little radio xmas segment from the 1940s . DAMN that woman is still the BOSS .
@irisgreene4175
@irisgreene4175 2 жыл бұрын
Keep telling yourself that. We’re here for Christina and Christopher, the real ones.
@Celluloidkid
@Celluloidkid 17 жыл бұрын
.."If you childern don't read the lines right during the interview I will beat you with the Christmas tree"! LOL..What a classic, I hae hunted for this for years, thanks sooo much for adding it too KZbin!
@Wimberlymusic
@Wimberlymusic 7 жыл бұрын
Christopher can't sneak downstairs when he's tied down, Mr. Fisher.
@tc8765
@tc8765 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@timetotalkaustralia
@timetotalkaustralia 5 жыл бұрын
Lol terrible
@Sexicita28
@Sexicita28 4 жыл бұрын
Right? Lol
@davidmorris6443
@davidmorris6443 3 жыл бұрын
😀😀😀😀😀 yep he was strapped in
@jm7804
@jm7804 Ай бұрын
Christopher said his favorite Christmas Carol is Away in a Manger. I'm sure that's no accident. A lot of the nativity scenes make it look like baby Jesus is swaddled down in the crib.
@blackirishrose4040
@blackirishrose4040 5 жыл бұрын
Brought to you by Xanax and vodka
@millsykooksy4863
@millsykooksy4863 4 жыл бұрын
mergirl2000 Dunne lol
@TheJohnnymotown
@TheJohnnymotown 3 жыл бұрын
hahahahahahaha thats great Mergirl
@zacharymitchell2115
@zacharymitchell2115 3 жыл бұрын
Just saying from personal experience, those two do not mix, you will end up in jail like how I did lol
@sibr4111
@sibr4111 3 жыл бұрын
😅
@MYNDZIYE
@MYNDZIYE 9 жыл бұрын
"I always (see to it) that they GIVE UP something they REALLY LOVE " (sadistic much)
@ZEITGEISTism
@ZEITGEISTism 9 жыл бұрын
MYNDZ IYE Not so ! REAL giving is giving up something you love the most for the good of the other better that than giving something you dont care about or can afford JUST so you feel better about yourself for ..."giving " She was strict but in this case she was right She was teaching her kids if you're gonna give something to the other ? ..give it your ALL and THAT is the true meaning of giving !!
@lindaeasley4336
@lindaeasley4336 5 жыл бұрын
I find that a form of emotional abuse , too . To the child , how can they ever feel happy about getting a gift if they know they will probably have to give it up eventually ? That doesn't teach giving , it teaches there is no such thing as a. present given out of love.You can't force what she was trying to instill in her kids .It has to come from the heart .
@bridgettebianchi9315
@bridgettebianchi9315 4 жыл бұрын
@Linda Heasley you are so right. By forcing them to do this it can have the opposite effect. They could become hoarders. They will want to hang onto their stuff later in life.
@jasonhurd4379
@jasonhurd4379 4 жыл бұрын
@@ZEITGEISTism Then I suppose you yourself gave away the presents YOU really loved when you were young. What a superior person you are, a model for all sociopaths to emulate.
@gavinchafin9447
@gavinchafin9447 3 жыл бұрын
And "They don't give away the received Christmas gifts because it wouldn't be fair to the fans that sent them." What?? What about it being unfair to the children? Narcissistic mother without a doubt. The fans were her primary supply and her children were secondary. Listening to this audio has proven to me that Christina Crawford was telling the truth.
@ashleighhaunted7724
@ashleighhaunted7724 7 жыл бұрын
"give up something they really love". that isn't giving. that is taking something away from them. giving is supposed to be genuine, forced unfairly.
@gregr3720
@gregr3720 7 жыл бұрын
They should have said, "We really love you Mommie Dearest."
@e.erin.
@e.erin. 3 жыл бұрын
Which is very typical of a pathological maternal narcissist.
@faithfulforever6331
@faithfulforever6331 3 жыл бұрын
When she takes away things that were meant to belong to her children, it is nothing less than stealing from them. That doesn't teach children anything other than how to be cruel and sinful.
@katenewton9751
@katenewton9751 3 жыл бұрын
That is cruel didn't she think viewers are going to think you cruel mother children seem rehearsed in what they are saying you imbocile Joan if I took away my daughters Barbie dream house she would cry for forever she is so proud of what she got plays with it everyday mommie dearest comments at full swing here so horrid for those children
@roystonmason9125
@roystonmason9125 2 жыл бұрын
@@e.erin. to give things away?
@Celluloidkid
@Celluloidkid 10 жыл бұрын
I time from Hollywood gone by....never see the likes of it again...love this!!!
@SymphonyBrahms
@SymphonyBrahms 3 жыл бұрын
Christina's gift was a can of Bon Ami and an ax. Christopher's gift was a new rope. The twins each got a cheap hanky from Woolworth's. And Joan gave herself a carton of Lucky Strikes and a bottle of Smirnoff Vodka.
@yvonnestaley3564
@yvonnestaley3564 3 жыл бұрын
Lmfaoooo
@irisgreene4175
@irisgreene4175 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure Joan got herself much more than her daily necessities…,”but I thought we were broke?…”
@jm7804
@jm7804 Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@Elpixxie1122
@Elpixxie1122 11 жыл бұрын
"They couldn't possibly go to sleep. They've got cleaning to do"
@Vicky-ft6ee
@Vicky-ft6ee 4 жыл бұрын
Kids can definitely grow up different in the exact same household, from experience, my siblings and I had different upbringings in the same home
@oooh19
@oooh19 2 жыл бұрын
Well some are the “favorites”
@glamdolly30
@glamdolly30 2 жыл бұрын
Very true. There's no question Joan Crawford was abusive to Christina and Christopher. As the boy, Christopher wasn't as resilient as Christina and suffered many years of psychiatric issues as a result of his adoptive mother's cruelty to him. Christina always looked out for him as an adult, and supported him financially with the proceeds of 'Mommie Dearest' since he couldn't work - and of course Crawford had spitefully cut both elder adoptive children out of her will. As Kirk Douglas (among other visitors to the house) testified, Crawford would strap Christopher to his bed at nights, supposedly to stop him sleepwalking, but many suspect it was actually to stop him masturbating - she was utterly crazy.
@Inismoon
@Inismoon 2 жыл бұрын
@@glamdolly30 She was evil incarnate monster.
@Mitzi73
@Mitzi73 8 жыл бұрын
"I make sure the children give away something they truly love." Time to start lying kids! This bright race car is just ok.
@christinebrett4825
@christinebrett4825 4 жыл бұрын
Truly loved? What a total bitch. Shame that they couldn't throw her away. Shame though, as they didn't truly love her anyway. My kids call me Mother Dearest. They probably couldn't if they saw the film about this. However, I love it as it's for fun and I love them. They are all grown up now
@roystonmason9125
@roystonmason9125 2 жыл бұрын
@Robert A. Lofgren Jr. she was awesome !
@roystonmason9125
@roystonmason9125 2 жыл бұрын
@@christinebrett4825 hurt me with a hanger ,,,gee wiz
@moralesk35
@moralesk35 9 жыл бұрын
I'll be damned if I wake up by 6:30 am "the latest"!!!! just to eat breakfast before opening a bunch of gifts that I don't get to keep! Get the hell out of here! If that is not child cruelty...I don't know what is!
@jamarietwetty7850
@jamarietwetty7850 8 жыл бұрын
thats not child cruelty Christmas is not always about getting presents
@moralesk35
@moralesk35 8 жыл бұрын
+jamarietwetty78 Duh! I never said Christmas is about getting presents!!! I said I'll be damned if someone wakes me up at 6:30 am for some bull💩I had nothing to do with setting up! Get your facts straight!
@glassonion5474
@glassonion5474 3 жыл бұрын
@@moralesk35 Child cruelty is it??? To donate the gazillions of expensive gifts they were fortunate to receive. Some kids don't have clean water to drink love. Others are starving and physically abused. Joan's Poor little rich kids having to donate gifts!!
@standstrongwwg1wga235
@standstrongwwg1wga235 5 жыл бұрын
Joan: I don’t see how any Christmas can be without children so I can take out all my Frustrations on them because, I’m Hollywood poison don’t you know George.
@irisgreene4175
@irisgreene4175 2 жыл бұрын
Of course Joan’s favorite song was Silent Night. You know how important Mommie’s sleep was!
@jm7804
@jm7804 Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@ilovethecure12
@ilovethecure12 10 жыл бұрын
Came here to listen to my darling Joan on Christmas night. Merry Christmas everyone :)
@JudgeJulieLit
@JudgeJulieLit 8 жыл бұрын
+BabyJane Hudson Hush up, sweet Charlotte ... .
@Andremedia
@Andremedia 17 жыл бұрын
1949...a radio interview would be a challenge. The kids did a great job. The whole feeling of the interview reflects the awareness of the times...58 years ago...
@peterspering3709
@peterspering3709 2 ай бұрын
Now 75 years ago... time flies!
@Vydio
@Vydio 13 жыл бұрын
If my son Christopher still hadn't received all of his presents I don' think I'd be announcing it over the radio or TV for everyone to hear. Her snickering at this creeped me out.
@jcassidy938
@jcassidy938 8 жыл бұрын
Nice script they followed.
@megaswenson
@megaswenson 14 жыл бұрын
"Christopher, do you ever try to sneak downstairs to catch Old St. Nick?" "Oh, NO sir! I couldn't. You see, I'm strapped into my bed at night."
@geminijohnson4019
@geminijohnson4019 4 жыл бұрын
I wish he would have said that
@geminijohnson4019
@geminijohnson4019 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder why she stepped him down like that?
@megaswenson
@megaswenson 4 жыл бұрын
@@geminijohnson4019 That would've been GREAT!
@megaswenson
@megaswenson 4 жыл бұрын
@@geminijohnson4019 He was prone to sleepwalking (supposedly). Christina had to SECRETLY unstrap him, so that he could use the bathroom. But she was forbidden to do so, in a big way. And Heaven forbid he should have an accident.
@megaswenson
@megaswenson 3 жыл бұрын
@Anna Marfa Yes! Strapped, in accordance with BOTH meanings of the word.
@02chevyguy
@02chevyguy 9 жыл бұрын
Joan: From tomorrow on, they earn their gifts. George: How do you mean they "earn them"? Joan: Well, if they stay on their good behavior, they're given the choice of what present they want next. Christopher had his birthday in October, and he still hasn't received all of his presents. George: Miss Crawford, why is Christopher displaying his middle finger in that manner? Joan: Beats me.
@bartman1238
@bartman1238 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@timriggins70
@timriggins70 5 жыл бұрын
George sounded concerned
@jaydavis8394
@jaydavis8394 4 жыл бұрын
lol
@LadyDulcinea
@LadyDulcinea 4 жыл бұрын
More like "beats him"...
@TheJohnnymotown
@TheJohnnymotown 3 жыл бұрын
thats great
@soapwonder
@soapwonder 17 жыл бұрын
Amazing,I just finished reading Mommie Dearest which contains a direct transcript of this recording.Christina wrote that all the responses were rehearsed and after the interview they were sent back to their rooms,had to change clothes and write "thank you" notes for days,for presents they were not allowed to keep.The best ones they had to take rewrapped to birthday parties of other children.
@savageandrews4050
@savageandrews4050 2 жыл бұрын
How horrible
@glamdolly30
@glamdolly30 2 жыл бұрын
It's an outrage that abusive alcoholic Joan Crawford was allowed to adopt other people's innocent babies as a single parent. It meant those poor children were 100% at her mercy when she turned violent/abusive, without even a second parent to turn to. Appalling she was able to 'buy motherhood' like that - while claiming sainthood for having taken the children on! She was a vile hypocrite. Many witnesses attested Crawford was a cruel, sadistic control freak, and her first two adopted children suffered terribly at her hands. The twin girls she was later - outrageously - able to adopt had a better time of it because by then she had married Pepsi magnate Arnold Steele, who gave her financial and therefore emotional stability. Those two girls spent most of their childhoods in boarding school too, so they didn't get the brunt of JC's madness as poor Christina and Christopher did. Horrible how they claimed their older adopted siblings were lying about Crawford's abuse, just because they didn't experience it - psychologists are well aware children can be treated very differently in the same household, by abusive parental figures who have favourites, singling out other children for abuse. The twins should not have accused Christina of lying - her book 'Mommie Dearest' was clearly truthful, and it's only a shame she protected evil Joan Crawford and didn't release it till after her death. Crawford fully deserved to be exposed as a child abuser!
@Inismoon
@Inismoon 2 жыл бұрын
@@savageandrews4050 Omg! Couldn't believe my ears listening to Crawford in her own words abuse proved.
@loquito0111
@loquito0111 6 жыл бұрын
Christina Crawford sounds like a prisoner of war who is getting interviewed by a swiss representative of the Geneva convention.
@TheJohnnymotown
@TheJohnnymotown 3 жыл бұрын
lololololololo
@jermainejones6149
@jermainejones6149 3 жыл бұрын
She does
@sibr4111
@sibr4111 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, totally. Seems like it was a golden cage for her for sure
@loquito0111
@loquito0111 3 жыл бұрын
@@sibr4111 yes, im sure she had a lovely childhood for sure.
@billhuber2964
@billhuber2964 2 жыл бұрын
😜
@amparovaldiviafernandez7587
@amparovaldiviafernandez7587 9 жыл бұрын
After all of Mommie Dearest I think Christina and Christopher are much better actors that Joan Crawford was.
@user-cb2zf3nh1z
@user-cb2zf3nh1z 6 жыл бұрын
Amparo Valdivia Fernandez The one thing Joan Crawford was, she was a major movie star. And, one of the BEST actors, leading lady, in Holywood. Obviously, you're not old enough, to understand, or know that. No, she wasnt a good mother. But, when it came to her acting, she was the best, at what she did. Faye Dunaway, protrayed Joan Crawford, in Mommie Dearest, Surely, you do KNOW that, right?
@Pieldenieve
@Pieldenieve 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe because they are liars. Joan cannot defend herself. There’s always two sides to every story.
@jamiegrennell3159
@jamiegrennell3159 4 жыл бұрын
She was one of the best!! Maybe they are lying because they thought she was gonna leave them her money but she didnt then all of that conveniently came out, she made up for it with the book money then she was so upset that she didnt get money from the movie that was based on her book. Really all I see is a gold digger, Joan can never tell her side ......
@glassonion5474
@glassonion5474 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamiegrennell3159 It was just her not them as far as I'm aware. Christopher received no royalties from her exaggerated tales.
@teetee1324
@teetee1324 7 жыл бұрын
"I was just 7" That's such a weird way to say 8. I've never heard it said like that before
@mdenmark604
@mdenmark604 2 жыл бұрын
It think it might be because he turned 7 in October and they´re doing the interview in December - it´s a way of saying that to the person asking.....however it´s not a way of phrasing it we would use today which is why it sounds strange to us now :-)
@lindagurrera685
@lindagurrera685 2 жыл бұрын
Love her voice
@Destroythenavel
@Destroythenavel Жыл бұрын
So do I.
@stconstable
@stconstable 11 жыл бұрын
As John Waters says; Dunaway would've got an Oscar if it hadn't been for the mad-at-the dirt and no-wire-hangers scenes.
@scottcawley9975
@scottcawley9975 7 жыл бұрын
What happen to Betty raves
@KadriSmith
@KadriSmith 17 жыл бұрын
still cant get the hangers out of my mind...
@megaswenson
@megaswenson 15 жыл бұрын
The 'Davenport', the 'stately Colonial fireplace', the white carpet.....'excellent training for the children'....'earning' the rest of their gifts'. It's all so 'perfect'. Obviously, Mommie Dearest was a fairly accurate portrait of life with Saint Joan. She gets a LOT of digs in, against Christopher. And the organ in tremolo!!!! Thanks for posting this Gem!
@bellaboop1
@bellaboop1 4 жыл бұрын
The 'crinkle' sound you hear isn't wrapping paper- it's the children passing "Help Me" notes under the coffee table! 😮 Joan: "They wake early, I insist on feeding them, beating them...then it's present time! Hooray!" Merry Christmas Kids😕😬😣😢
@hughhaefner5486
@hughhaefner5486 3 жыл бұрын
Hilarious.
@JudgeJulieLit
@JudgeJulieLit 2 жыл бұрын
* force feeding, a la Nancy Reagan, her daughter Patti
@Celluloidkid
@Celluloidkid 12 жыл бұрын
I looove this !! Merry Christmas Hollywood and Joan!
@Rachulie
@Rachulie 12 жыл бұрын
just watched this scene in mommie dearest. i was abused all my life. the WHOLE movie i was stoic, then wire hanger scene i couldnt take. too close to home. i got beat with a wire hanger. but it was on the soul of my foot and on my tigh bc he knew that's where it hurt the most. :P my butt got so numb after the years
@betterthanemril988
@betterthanemril988 6 жыл бұрын
Who came to listen to this after watching mommie dearest? Lol
@richardc7869
@richardc7869 4 жыл бұрын
Not me, I saw Mommie Dearest in the theater in 1981
@betterthanemril988
@betterthanemril988 4 жыл бұрын
Richard C cool lol I got me that was impossible considering I had many years to be conceived
@richardc7869
@richardc7869 4 жыл бұрын
BetterThanEmril Lol, it was a fluke. Friends took me out for dinner & a movie for my birthday. We were late & Mommie Dearest was about to begin... so in we went. My friends hated it, but this film made a lasting impression on me. I could probably recite the script, beginning to end. 😊
@eugenekozma2697
@eugenekozma2697 2 жыл бұрын
I listened to this after viewing mommie dearest so many times.
@derf66
@derf66 14 жыл бұрын
In Christina's book, no one could raise their voices above a whisper in the mornings until Miss Crawford was up. If they did, there was hell to pay.
@stormstruck
@stormstruck 9 жыл бұрын
Good lord, such rote responses from these kids...its like radio astroturf!
@PandoraKyss
@PandoraKyss 13 жыл бұрын
"Christopher, did you ever try to sneak down and see Santa Claus?" - "Golly! If Mommie didn't strap me into my bed, I'd sure try!"
@sibr4111
@sibr4111 3 жыл бұрын
Ahaha...oh my...oh sh*t...that's terrible. That's pretty much how his childhood rolled out.
@KanishQQuotes
@KanishQQuotes 2 жыл бұрын
@@sibr4111 He used to sleepwalk from what christina mentioned in her interviews
@allbetsRoff60
@allbetsRoff60 8 жыл бұрын
The two children seated don't look very happy.
@timothyperry3850
@timothyperry3850 8 жыл бұрын
They look quite miserable this actress was a truly cruel mean and abusive woman
@gregr3720
@gregr3720 7 жыл бұрын
She was the Queen of Hollywood.
@christinebrett4825
@christinebrett4825 5 жыл бұрын
Just listening to her...... They EARN their presents. (The old bag). My kids could be right gits but they had all their presents. She sounds horrid!! Even the kids sound like they are reading petrified from a script. Xxx
@standstrongwwg1wga235
@standstrongwwg1wga235 4 жыл бұрын
Greg R hellywood
@waivedwench
@waivedwench 4 жыл бұрын
Like they've got guns pointed at the back of their heads (which they practically did!)
@glamdolly30
@glamdolly30 8 жыл бұрын
How can anyone disbelieve Christina Crawford's account of her abusive childhood after seeing this?!
@austinpearce5442
@austinpearce5442 7 жыл бұрын
glamdolly20 I know.
@claudiacooper1387
@claudiacooper1387 7 жыл бұрын
glamdolly20 Josep
@gregr3720
@gregr3720 7 жыл бұрын
Joan worked and she worked, and she heard people say, "she's getting old" and what did she get? A daughter who cared as much about her beautiful dresses as she cared about her. Joan gave her daughter $200 -$300 dollar dresses and she treated them like they were some dishrag.
@tabbybueneman2629
@tabbybueneman2629 7 жыл бұрын
Greg R i was about to reply to you with an angry response, but then i scrolled down and realized you were trolling with movie quotes O_O
@moviestarmemories630
@moviestarmemories630 6 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@UljezMiSe
@UljezMiSe 13 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine the fear behind the children's scripted monologues, having full knowledge that if they screw up in the slightest, there is an axe or a wire hanger or a "simple slap across the face" waiting to happen once the radio crew leaves. Not to mention scrubbing the floors of the entire mansion by hand... spooky Christmas indeed.
@randombean2643
@randombean2643 8 жыл бұрын
Christina & Christopher are both answering shakingly. Christopher's "Hello, everybody." Sounds like he was scared & nervous, his voice was cracking & sounded off.
@JohnnyGNV
@JohnnyGNV 8 жыл бұрын
Well, he was just a kid, there were sound people around and Radio microphones aimed at him, he probably WAS a little nervous and frightened and yes, this certainly sounds very scripted but I don't buy EVERY little tidbit of "how cruel" Joan was. Any of us could write a book about our own childhood and exaggerate certain facts. My dad could smack us as easily as joke around with us but I wouldn't write a book about it - (who would care, we weren't celebrities) - I think people are very quick to judge Joan Crawford, when none of us were actually on the scene.
@irisheyes4935
@irisheyes4935 4 жыл бұрын
Christopher was very traumatized by what took place in his childhood. The book mommie dearest details what Joan put him through, shipped him off to a foreign country after he got into minor trouble & tried to prevent him from re-entering the USA but Christina got him home again. Joan slso burned Christopher's hand as a punishment, so they got the full brunt of her bipolar, drunken rages. The twins were treated much better by Joan. They were 8 years younger than Christina & Christopher
@glassonion5474
@glassonion5474 3 жыл бұрын
@@irisheyes4935 The twins were 7 years younger than Christina and 4 years younger than Christopher. If you believe every part of this exaggerated book then I would ask if you have heard Christina's interviews over the decades and how her tale has been dramatically changed.
@BillHosko
@BillHosko 3 жыл бұрын
Gettagrip... this was a fine sounding interview. You can not know enough to self-righteously condemn others.
@hughhaefner5486
@hughhaefner5486 3 жыл бұрын
@@glassonion5474 I think Christina story hasn't changed a bit over the years.
@lisac2133
@lisac2133 5 жыл бұрын
They weren't allowed to go to the tree until after they finished breakfast...."They earn their Christmas gifts? " Christopher's birthday was in October and he still hasn't earned all his gifts? I never believed Christina's story, but listening to this, now i don't know how much she exaggerated and how much was spot on.
@s.c.7362
@s.c.7362 3 жыл бұрын
@Jarred Knox Exactly. No reason for her to exaggerate. She wasn't trying to become a career novelist, AFAIK. She just told the world who Joan really was. And Joan knew she was writing the book, as I recall. It wasn't published before her death but I seem to recall Joan finding out that she was writing it, which means it wasn't revenge like the movie implied. www.bustle.com/p/did-joan-crawford-know-about-mommie-dearest-her-daughters-book-is-forever-linked-with-her-legacy-53122
@ginaloveian
@ginaloveian 9 жыл бұрын
Those kids seem scared during this and Joan is all serious I can tell the difference we will never what happened behind closed doors maybe she hurt Christina maybe she didn't
@lindaeasley4336
@lindaeasley4336 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not totally accepting everything Christina claimed . Half truths for sure . Maybe she made up the physical abuse stories because Joan's stringent ways of raising kids made the relationship very strained later on . This interview and Joan's answers didn't sit right with me .Think she tried too hard to micro manage her idea of how a family should act and was lacking on the emotional aspect of the family unit
@rescue.repair.reward
@rescue.repair.reward 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I mean, she grew up knowing nothing of parental acceptance and love. Her father left when she was young and her mother favored her brother and showed her no love or affection. I blame parents on messed up kids/adults. Also, I can't say I believe Christinas book 100%. Even SHE said they embellished and over exaggerated/dramatized much that was portrayed in the movie.
@gregr3720
@gregr3720 8 жыл бұрын
This is portrayed in the movie "Mommie Dearest"
@delanaphelps7750
@delanaphelps7750 7 жыл бұрын
Greg R yes but the twins are not in it.
@gregr3720
@gregr3720 7 жыл бұрын
I know. I saw the movie.
@hollywoodream30
@hollywoodream30 7 жыл бұрын
Delana phelps Why? do you know?
@misterhot9163
@misterhot9163 7 жыл бұрын
hollywoodream30 because the twins wouldn't allow their names or likeness in the film, it would never get past legal. Notice other stars like Bette Davis, Douglas Fairbanks Jr and Myrna Loy weren't mentioned either for the very same reasons as they were all still living at the time.
@forgetyourlife
@forgetyourlife 4 жыл бұрын
Greg R the movie was fiction.
@LadyElaineFairchilde
@LadyElaineFairchilde 5 жыл бұрын
Christina and Christopher did a good job reciting their lines. They sound just like the trained child actors of the time period.
@jaengen
@jaengen 2 жыл бұрын
They had better or there would have been hell to pay that night.
@EpcotFan
@EpcotFan 16 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Message127 for that information, I greatly appreciate it!!
@mrsd81km
@mrsd81km 10 жыл бұрын
The children were not allowed to keep any of the gifts except for only one. The rest were given away. The children were also expected to be completely silent until Joan woke up. Her standards for 'good behavior" was unattainable- perfection was expected.
@Murgatroydian
@Murgatroydian 6 жыл бұрын
A wonderful, lovely, lovely family!!
@socialdistancejusticewarri8533
@socialdistancejusticewarri8533 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, on the surface anyways.
@arthurgearheard4701
@arthurgearheard4701 2 жыл бұрын
@@socialdistancejusticewarri8533 I wonder if these various KZbin families are as happy as they appear to be when they show their Vlogs! The above person mentioned that he sensed something suspicious going on in this interview! Hmm!
@standstrongwwg1wga235
@standstrongwwg1wga235 5 жыл бұрын
Christopher: Oh no sir, I don’t sneak out of my bed to see Santa because I’m always tied down to my bed
@MiamiPush2theLimit
@MiamiPush2theLimit 4 жыл бұрын
StandStrong WWG1WGA 😩😩
@Vicky-ft6ee
@Vicky-ft6ee 4 жыл бұрын
That will forever kill me the fact that a child has to endure that till 12 years old. Not even to get up to go to the bathroom. Imagine the pain in sleeping like that
@mylifeisaparty
@mylifeisaparty 4 жыл бұрын
Shut up MAGAt
@helenthorpe1494
@helenthorpe1494 2 жыл бұрын
It was a harness that Christopher could slip in and out of at will. He walked in his sleep and one night was found in the middle of the road. Joan did this under the advice of a child psychologist. What, you expect her to do nothing and let him get run over. Such dumb ass comments.
@waivedwench
@waivedwench 9 жыл бұрын
This is so obviously scripted!!
@fool4singing
@fool4singing 7 жыл бұрын
...as was everything during these times.
@fool4singing
@fool4singing 7 жыл бұрын
True,..plus they needed a template in order to keep it within it's time restraints. I wouldn't want to return to the 1940's, but the respect level that we had for people back then would be a nice breath of fresh air in today's society...
@waivedwench
@waivedwench 7 жыл бұрын
Are "lying" and "hypocrisy" morals and values. Not to mention "child abuse"?
@waivedwench
@waivedwench 7 жыл бұрын
I actually AM aware of the circumstances surrounding "Mommie Dearest" and the controversy surrounding Christina Crawford's allegations. Even so, I still think this is hypocrisy, lying and child abuse. So DON'T FUCK WITH ME, YOU POMPOUS GASBAG!!!
@Polarbear-zy6vf
@Polarbear-zy6vf 6 жыл бұрын
It sounds rehearsed.
@christinad4432
@christinad4432 4 жыл бұрын
“Do you ever sneak downstairs to get a peek at Santa Claus?” No sir. That’s impossible since mother straps me into bed every night before I go to sleep.
@dashoverton1963
@dashoverton1963 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@kathyp760
@kathyp760 Жыл бұрын
Yes until he was 12 sickening
@TheLuminica
@TheLuminica 11 жыл бұрын
I actually loved the "mad-at-the dirt" part. The wires thing I thought it was a bit overboard, I cant help but laugh at that specific line everytime I see it. But I was amazed at her job, even the pitch in her voice, the tone and the way of talking, the expressions, she was incredible. I think she was stolen, really!.
@JudgeJulieLit
@JudgeJulieLit 2 жыл бұрын
Joan's excess aversion to "wire coat hangers" was from her childhood of living above a dry cleaners that used them, her mother its employee and child Joan a sometime assistant.
@geminijohnson4019
@geminijohnson4019 4 жыл бұрын
Odd how she's the only one smiling in that photo...The two oldest ones are in fear of making mistakes and the two younger ones have seen them getting beaten,look how their looking at them.That picture speaks louder than the movie
@derf66
@derf66 14 жыл бұрын
JC said the kids dawdled over breakfast everyday of the year but at Xmas, breakfast was the quickest meal on record. To JC, I guess that meant Xmas was the day Christina ate her raw-to-blood rare steak without complaining.
@02chevyguy
@02chevyguy 2 жыл бұрын
"And Christopher, what's your favorite Christmas carol "Ding, Dong, the Witch is DEAD!" "Uh, Christopher, that's not a Christmas Carol". "Yes, I know...wishful thinking. Considering I didn't get all of my birthday presents two months ago!"
@robertjackson4928
@robertjackson4928 10 жыл бұрын
Very sad to listen to. The one part Joan couldn't play was loving parent. Its not a part you take on for six weeks at a time. Its a lifetime commitment. Adoption is tough on all parties. If you can't handle it, don't take the role. Crawford's answers are bizarre at best. Having heard this, I know the rumors were true. Sorry I played it.
@gregr3720
@gregr3720 7 жыл бұрын
Those kids lived in one of the most beautiful homes in Brentwood. Went to the best schools. Wore the finest clothes. I'm sure it wasn't THAT bad. They got through it and probably came out better than if Joan had never adopted them at all.
@metalmonkey6262
@metalmonkey6262 5 жыл бұрын
Why dont the other children speak on their life with the mother? I mean I find it odd that there are 3 other children who remain suspiciously silent one way or the other.
@timriggins70
@timriggins70 5 жыл бұрын
@@metalmonkey6262 I dont know. Is Tommy North whose family was featured in Yours, Mine, and Ours lying because the other 18 wont corroborate his claims of physical and sexual abuse?
@timriggins70
@timriggins70 5 жыл бұрын
@@gregr3720 So physical abuse and mental torture are okay if the kid lives in a nice home.
@gregr3720
@gregr3720 5 жыл бұрын
@@timriggins70 Sure, why not? I was being facetious. My comment was based on the movie "Mommie Dearest".
@writer422
@writer422 4 жыл бұрын
I am sure it was not easy living with a temperamental star
@02chevyguy
@02chevyguy 12 жыл бұрын
It's a good thing I wound up losing my coffee on the carpet instead of spitting it on my monitor. That was good! :)
@TarynThings
@TarynThings 15 жыл бұрын
WOW! Interesting and thanks for sharing. Poor kids. :-(
@Patrick3183
@Patrick3183 10 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Joan.
@nassauguy48
@nassauguy48 Жыл бұрын
Those kids must have been living in abject terror throughout the entire interview, at least Christina and Christopher.
@SuperMitchell57
@SuperMitchell57 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@sb1866
@sb1866 6 жыл бұрын
Had Joan had a normal childhood, I wonder what kind of mother she could have been? Most horrible childhood. She was too strict. She didn't have a normal childhood. I think she wanted everyone to think she had a happy home. I'm beginning to see things I didn't want to. Her childhood played a big role in how she parented her children. Now, I see she adopted them to be seen, mostly. It was all a show, I suppose. But, she was a darn good actress!! Seems like she was cruel, like her mother. She wanted a picture perfect family. Hurting people hurts others. I suppose Joan took her anger out on her children. I really didn't want to think, she was as bad as she obviously was. Live & learn!
@eduardo_corrochio
@eduardo_corrochio 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if one of those kids flubbed a line or accidentally said the wrong word during this recording, when they were rehearsing. I expect Joan would have created a good punishment afterwards, to build character. There is so much subtext here behind the phony sentiments and Joan's haughty posturing. SNL should have done a parody of this in the 1990's; it's such a rich load of manure. Now, I doubt that life for her children was as ghastly as "Mommie Dearest" would indicate-- but I am sure those kids had a very hard time living in this crazy Hollywood bubble.
@hughhaefner5486
@hughhaefner5486 3 жыл бұрын
Christina insists on mother putting up her Christmas stocking with theirs. Then she was promptly slapped around for insisting.
@LunasAzules
@LunasAzules 17 жыл бұрын
Wow joan really does sound cold and heartless.
@jermainejones6149
@jermainejones6149 3 жыл бұрын
I try to tell people that
@58jharris
@58jharris 3 жыл бұрын
I think her tone of voice was kind of the way high society people talked back then.
@strafrag1
@strafrag1 13 жыл бұрын
very well choreographed by Ms Crawford.
@Muirmaiden
@Muirmaiden 14 жыл бұрын
This is so sad. The kids are clearly unhappy and sound very rehearsed. Joan was putting up her front as the big-hearted movie star who adopted four children - she used them as part of her public image to an appalling degree. Joan was clearly disturbed herself and never healed from her own childhood mistreatment, and she inflicted her childhood injustices on her adopted kids (especially Christina and Christopher). It's all just overwhelmingly sad to me.
@665kk
@665kk 10 жыл бұрын
It's not uncommon for these things to be scripted lol Even a simply appearance for any celeb on the radio at that time was scripted
@yahushua7773
@yahushua7773 4 жыл бұрын
They are still scripted to this day...
@waivedwench
@waivedwench 10 жыл бұрын
It all sounds so nice, so lovely and so, so FAKE!!!! And I'd think that even if I didn't know about Mommie Dearest!!
@sandiemarie1
@sandiemarie1 5 жыл бұрын
After hearing this, how can you not believe Cristina’s account of things.
@77462377
@77462377 14 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! This is Completely new to me. I didn't know she had four kids, I thought she only adopted two.
@theatrebritty
@theatrebritty 15 жыл бұрын
Oooh this is the legit one. I love it.
@TheLuminica
@TheLuminica 11 жыл бұрын
When for so long you have known someone else as your "twin" it gets really hard to change it later.
@blablahblah6616
@blablahblah6616 9 жыл бұрын
"and to all a good night......" .......Did you scrub the bathroom floor today??????
@gregr3720
@gregr3720 7 жыл бұрын
Does that look clean to you? Does it? Miss Jenkins said it's clean? Do you think it's clean? DO YOU think it's clean?
@Lincolntowncoupe
@Lincolntowncoupe 7 жыл бұрын
Greg R if you can't do something right don't do it at all
@gregr3720
@gregr3720 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not mad at you. I'm mad at the dirt.
@donnakubiak
@donnakubiak 6 жыл бұрын
Sure, what an impromptu interview.
@anastasiamosher7353
@anastasiamosher7353 6 жыл бұрын
What appears to be is not necessarily so...abusers are great conners....
@MMAfighter38113
@MMAfighter38113 11 жыл бұрын
when this scene was acted in the movie, Christina said that they send most of the gifts to orphans. In this interview JC says they never give away presents because it's not fair to those who sent them.
@phxmateo
@phxmateo 7 жыл бұрын
This family could have been a really enjoyable experience. Too bad for Christina and Christopher it was a nightmare. As for the two younger children, they were much younger and Joan had mellowed out and learned from her mistakes.
@BrianHAlexander
@BrianHAlexander 16 жыл бұрын
Look into the eyes of the two older children in the photo above. That says it all! This is suppose to be Christmas!
@yedon68
@yedon68 14 жыл бұрын
....joan you were so 'perfect'
@singlewhitegaboi
@singlewhitegaboi 17 жыл бұрын
Yes, it was rehearsed. I read somewhere that Joan insisted on being in on the scripted questions and responses.
@jrbrook76
@jrbrook76 16 жыл бұрын
"Mommie LOVES giving to those less fortunate than us. Sometimes, she gives money to handsome twenty-something gentlemen. They come up to Mommie's room for Acting Lessons. I hear Mommie teaching them how to act frightened. My uncles always make lots of noise when studying with Mommie"
@geminijohnson4019
@geminijohnson4019 4 жыл бұрын
The twins were under 2 yrs old and not one interruption from them? When was the last time you tried to keep one toddler quiet,let alone two?They weren't in that room
@eliterule1292
@eliterule1292 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@megaswenson
@megaswenson 13 жыл бұрын
@Vydio I agree! People with extreme Narcissistic Personality Disorder love to belittle those whom they consider "theirs". I noticed two particularly disturbing digs at Christopher during this short clip. And this while she's playing the part of "Loving Mother". One can only imagine the self-esteem destroying things she said and did when there was no audience.
@02chevyguy
@02chevyguy 13 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine how the radio audience in '49 was eating this nonsense up (especially at Xmas)? People were dabbing their tear-filled eyes with tissues and handkerchiefs , thinking "oh, what a marvelous actress she is. How kind and generous of her to take four adopted children and making them her own. What a tremendous mother she must be". Yeah, Joan was a good actress, but I'd certainly question how her mothering skills were after what Christina said about her.
@eugenekozma2697
@eugenekozma2697 2 жыл бұрын
Yes joan crawford was a talented actress I feel.but in my opinion she abused christina and christopher.
@bbt5358
@bbt5358 4 жыл бұрын
I have this recording!😁
@heidimerchant6267
@heidimerchant6267 5 жыл бұрын
Those kids sound robotic, not happy at all..I have read the book "Mommy Dearest" and I believe every bit of it!
@geminijohnson4019
@geminijohnson4019 4 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@sibr4111
@sibr4111 3 жыл бұрын
Same here! Went through abuse as a child and no one cared, nor believed either. I believe Christina. She displays all signs of trauma endured, even the way her book goes, chaotically, just like the flashbacks of PTSD victims usually do.
@roystonmason9125
@roystonmason9125 2 жыл бұрын
hurt me with a wire hanger mommie dearest ...lol! big deal
@roystonmason9125
@roystonmason9125 2 жыл бұрын
@@geminijohnson4019 good for you ! hurt me mommie with your wire hanger ...lol
@roystonmason9125
@roystonmason9125 2 жыл бұрын
@@sibr4111 poor thing
@jasonsbrain2
@jasonsbrain2 3 жыл бұрын
"Have you ever tried to sneak downstairs and catch Saint Nick at work?" "Oh, no! Mommy would beat me if I tried to do that! Besides, she keeps me strapped to the bed so I can't get out of bed at all..." Merry Christmas Everybody!
@dalehoward3704
@dalehoward3704 Жыл бұрын
This sounds so rehearsed.
@TheLuminica
@TheLuminica 11 жыл бұрын
In those days, children DID sound like that. Even the books made for children had this serious-polite tone. I have some that I often read my child and it always cought my attention about how much they talked about manners and such, but in an adult way, not like books today for children. Those were other days.
@storybellz
@storybellz 11 жыл бұрын
Actually, the twins disproved that in the 1990s. The went to Tennessee and found out that they are indeed twins, from the same mother. So, Joan did not lie about that.
@irisgreene4175
@irisgreene4175 2 жыл бұрын
Christina’s wish for a Collie dog broke my heart. Sure, kids want dogs…. but you know damn well it was more than that, she just wanted to love something without restrictions that would love her back (not counting her poor POW brother)
@ernestinemaloy8680
@ernestinemaloy8680 Жыл бұрын
Iris Greene I wonder if she ever got her collie dog she wanted ???
@ellynramich8017
@ellynramich8017 6 ай бұрын
They had dogs. Joan loved them and she has 4 at one point.
@winterdesert1
@winterdesert1 7 жыл бұрын
"...I always see that they give up something they really love..." I'm wondering if Christina got her Collie dog and then it was taken away. LOL!
@DesertAres
@DesertAres 18 жыл бұрын
I'm sure that DISCIPLINE mixed with a little love is responsible for the robotic answers of the childrens.
@janebeatty9472
@janebeatty9472 5 жыл бұрын
They had to earn their Christmas gifts! OMG!! What a sadistic psychopath she was to these kids. 🤬
@roystonmason9125
@roystonmason9125 2 жыл бұрын
poor little dears ! lol
@eugenekozma2697
@eugenekozma2697 2 жыл бұрын
Joan crawford was disturbed.scandalous and disgusting and disturbing she had kids.
@Inkthroat
@Inkthroat 15 жыл бұрын
LOOOOOL...OMG I LAUGHED SO HARD reading this!!!
@Rachulie
@Rachulie 12 жыл бұрын
thanks so much. i dont tell a lot of people because i didnt realize it was abuse until recently. i thought it happened to everyone. plus i dont wan people to look at me differently. it is something horrible but i have big dreams and am on my way to fulfilling them. i wanna help ppl.i dont believe 'what doesnt kill u makes u stronger' but that dream has saved me from suicide all my life.
@MONICAKAULITZ
@MONICAKAULITZ 17 жыл бұрын
i love movie mommy deariest
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