This episode of Mysteries and Scandals which featured Joan Crawford aired on November 9, 1998.
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@DeshaunD5 жыл бұрын
“25 films under her shoulder pads” has me SCREAMING 😩😂
@veronicaave47874 жыл бұрын
Omg same 😂
@scottg44414 жыл бұрын
Me too 🤣🤣🤣
@23shakeela4 жыл бұрын
Sis took me out
@Roller_Spice4 жыл бұрын
I came here to say this but knew in my heart it had already been said.
@cheryldevine423 жыл бұрын
Joan looked like a drag queen.
@sissyrayself75086 жыл бұрын
That scene with the wire hangers was such an eye opener. My mom would fly into rages just like this. It makes me turn to ice inside just watching this scene. I believe Christina one hundred percent.
@KQuinn6725 жыл бұрын
Felicity Ray Self lm sorry you went through that😨
@ljude015 жыл бұрын
Same happened to me. Couldn't watch that movie.
@rebeccahoffman24935 жыл бұрын
I believe her too! What the outside world doesn't understand is the emotional, psychological toll it has on kids...
@mermaidgirl92325 жыл бұрын
Felicity Ray Self ...I went through the same thing except I got it from both parents. You never knew what you were going to get hit with. My two oldest brothers got the same treatment. May they both Rest In Peace. My older sister was never touched. I also have a younger brother who has and still is the king. He’s 58 and still lives with my 99 yr old father. He’s a druggy and will steel you blind. So many bad memories of my childhood. I’ve been in therapy for 40 years and I just can’t get over it. Hugs to you.
@mrmrsmsmisscloud75125 жыл бұрын
ljude01 The book is more traumatic, I read it after I’d been diagnosed with an eating disorder and my mother had physically abused me to make me eat.
@rockmom625 жыл бұрын
Bette Davis once said "She has slept with every male star at MGM except Lassie." Classic
@ellencoleman81155 жыл бұрын
💀
@barbarablackmon78075 жыл бұрын
Nowadays, sadly even Lassie would be a potential sex partner for some sick and twisted individual.☹
@altanaeliza5 жыл бұрын
Should she be shamed for this? Abusing children is what's horrible
@georgiesinclair69515 жыл бұрын
Bette was jealous because no one wanted her...hahaha
@altanaeliza5 жыл бұрын
@@georgiesinclair6951 That might be a good reason
@oldfashiongirl2 жыл бұрын
My birth mother had mental illness and abused her first two children. Then went on and had two more. Watching this movie and hearing some of these lines that my mother said and did to us brought flash backs. She was a child abuser. Someone asked me if I ever told my father? I said no. They asked me why, and said I didn't know it was wrong, i thought it was me. Today she would have been jailed. Prayers to all of you who suffered by the hands of such 🙏🙏🙏🕊
@virginia3222 Жыл бұрын
I hear ya. My mother is still a bully and a horrible person at 92. She would probably beat on those around her if she could get away with it. Her own sisters can’t stand her. God bless anyone subjected to such a merciless mother.
@jamescarrington5521 Жыл бұрын
OMG...! Someone else who endured this same thing, sans the fortune and fame! When the novel "Mommie Dearest" came out, as an avid and voracious reader since the age of 6, I bought a copy as a teenager, and I was reading it one day when my very own mommie dearest came home from work, and SHE WENT OFF!! What really struck me was the fact that I read other novels in front of her, like Valley of the Dolls; no reaction. I read racy Sidney Sheldon novels; no response....ditto for Vincent Bugliosi's Helter Skelter, and again, no reaction from her. Until she saw me reading THIS ONE; I suppose it just hit a little too close to home for her. I remember reading SO MANY parts of that novel, incidents that were nearly identical to things that my own mother had done to ME and my older half-brother, and I almost came up out of my chair, reeling in this.... fascinated horror, because YES! I could, unfortunately, relate to this same scenario, this same dynamic, the same horrific verbal, emotional, and physical ABUSE! My dad was no help, so it did no good to say anything to him, either; not that he didn't know about the things she said and did to us, HE DID, but....he had his own issues, and he lived in fear of that evil bitch until the day he died, being the mousy, weak, ineffective father that he was. I went no contact 18 years ago, and I never looked back, I've never had even one regret about that decision. I believe you, and I understand. I was in therapy for years over the things I had to endure; I wanted to send her all of the bills, but....my insurance covered all of it, so I never did, but I should have anyway, and returned the money to my insurer. No one else will ever be able to believe or understand something like this when they never lived it.
@ommandababineaux1888 Жыл бұрын
Sad but true
@Distortedthoughts6 жыл бұрын
Narcissists don’t know how to love because they can’t love. Everyone is an object to be used to get whatever it is they want.
@jaymesguy2395 жыл бұрын
That's more or less what co-star Natalie Schafer said about Joan in a few interviews.
@camomiletea73575 жыл бұрын
pretty sure that's sociopaths
@camomiletea73575 жыл бұрын
@Moth’s Mummy sociopath's
@Hi-qe9gt5 жыл бұрын
Moth’s Mummy no, that’s completely true...if you knew anything about narcissism or cluster b personality disorders, you’d know narcs don’t have empathy and can’t love. It stems from abuse/neglect early in childhood.
@jaymesguy2395 жыл бұрын
Here is one definition: Narcissistic personality disorder - one of several types of personality disorders - is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others.
@adrianagflores55876 жыл бұрын
So this is what was on E! before the Kardashians .
@Sanpedranoazul6 жыл бұрын
Then, nothing to see LOL
@luisenriquequijadarodrigue70606 жыл бұрын
Yes and it worked....
@jansdoe69636 жыл бұрын
LOL
@racheldollton5 жыл бұрын
It was actually good back in the day. Mysteries and Scandals and E! true Hollywood story.
@talkingtina45195 жыл бұрын
Yes, actual entertainment.
@megleague11305 жыл бұрын
Back when the E channel had some actual decent content
@The_Whimsical_Stenographer4 жыл бұрын
I used to love the E! channel till the Kardashians got ahold of it.
@timaaj42194 жыл бұрын
So true
@SNARC152 жыл бұрын
This and Talk Soup. The good old days
@Giselle_Glam594 Жыл бұрын
All lies
@Giselle_Glam594 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Whimsical_Stenographer until Ryan Seacrest got a hold of it
@emayaych5 жыл бұрын
Ok. I’m so frustrated by people who assume that children adopted by rich famous people are generally better off. As if it’s better to be adopted by the rich than it is to be adopted by the mentally stable. As if there would never be an opportunity for that child to be adopted by people more emotionally stable. As if money heals all wounds. Well, if that’s so, I got got a paper cut at work yesterday, lend me a $20 so I can heal properly.
@cloudburstlia4565 жыл бұрын
emayaych well said
@andreebouchard4885 жыл бұрын
emayaych Are you sure people think that? This story has been around for a very long time and changed people’s perceptions quite a bit.. it’s pretty obvious that being rich doesn’t equal kind...
@janemessex79915 жыл бұрын
You are so correct. But most will never be smart Enough to see it.
@babygirl-vi7ws5 жыл бұрын
Her twins said they lived an amazing life and loved their mother
@marnasquires1555 жыл бұрын
Home life can be a betrayal bc the life myself and sister were never hit but emotionally 😩 we were wounded and my young brother never saw a day of it
@JW-do2wc5 жыл бұрын
Joan's upbringing was very bad, but that was no excuse to take it out on Christina and her brother.
@sassyd87384 жыл бұрын
Ikr but people seem to throw her under the bus for that book..If she did it outta spite she sure learned manipulations from the people she was around. Sadly she will always be judged because her mom was Joan crawford joan wasnt a saint Seem a publicity queen a movie star and about money money hmmm
@nancy-jodillman16725 жыл бұрын
To put it plain and simple,these children were nothing more than stage props for Crawford.
@2Ryled4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@grungerockyou29184 жыл бұрын
Well put! lol
@Garsons-oq4lh2 жыл бұрын
In Christina's "Mommie Dearest" she wrote of an incident whereby she ALLEGES Joan Crawford strangled her after she returned home from boarding school for summer vacation in June 1953. When Christina wrote of this allegation, she stated Joan had "a look in her eyes that will never be erased from my memory." After this ALLEGED altercation, Christina was sent immediately back to boarding school. Christina published "Mommie Dearest" in October 1978. Nearly simultaneously to her writing this FRAUDULENT memoir, Christina was court ordered to be questioned in an UNDER-OATH deposition by Joan Crawford's estate in February 1978. During her UNDER-OATH, court-ordered deposition, Christina is specifically questioned about this incident, to which she responded: "I don't know what you are referring to," and continues to evade the questions regarding this incident. In addition to Christina's complete, on the record, CONTRIDICTION of this event, the EYE-WITNESS to this event came forward in 1981 to confirm Christina LIED in her book. That EYE-WITNESS is Billie Greene, She was Joan's assistant at the time. Greene stated in her unpublished interview: "I believe I'm quoted as saying 'Stop, you'll kill her."...I can tell you that I've never seen any discipline towards Christina or the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night." (Greene's full interview is in-depth and REVEALING) **CREDIT to CHRISTINACRAWFORDLIED facebook.**
@WitchKing-Of-Angmar Жыл бұрын
@@Garsons-oq4lh I knew this couldn't be true, I read the same exact proofs. Some assume that Christina wasn't payed by her mother when she left like Joan Crawford had done for her other two children, however she payed for her institution for university if I'm not mistaken. I believe Christina Crawford wrote all this about her late mother Joan Crawford because she hated the way she was during the feud of Betti Davis and her...that is when she became desperate for the stage and fame. I believe Betti Davis' daughter had similar ideas for the neglect she was given. When things don't add up in a story, they don't add up for a reason.
@ninalee8705 Жыл бұрын
Christina was a rebellious jealous little B*tch
@gmetayern6 жыл бұрын
That was one of Faye Dunaway's greatest performance. "No more WIRE HANGERSSSSSS".
@tamlynn7866 жыл бұрын
Gloria Metayer my favorite line “Don’t fuck with me fellas! This ain’t my first time at the rodeo!” There I fixed it for all you verbatim types 😂🤣
@BarLadyy6 жыл бұрын
Gloria Metayer to this day, I don’t hang my clothes on them. I return them to the dry cleaners when I pick up my clothes and remove them at home.
@aeromagnumtv15816 жыл бұрын
I'm an adult now (saw mommie dearest in 1982), and still afraid of using wire hangers!
@johnsax14456 жыл бұрын
Actually Faye should have been Nominated for, if not won the Oscar that year. It is an Iconic Performance that is still celebrated to this day. She came in 2nd for the NY Film Critics award for Best Actress and Pauline Kael, film critic for the New Yorker, gave her a rare rave review, calling hers a “ ferocious performance.
@LittleImpaler6 жыл бұрын
Faye Dunaway acting was horrible in that movie. It was way too over the top.
@36isnotold5 жыл бұрын
She had some type of mental illness, my mom suffered from something similar. She could be so angry out of nowhere for no reason that life from young was constantly dodging mine fields. Got hit with hangers, wooden spoons, but her favorite was the pitta she made-12 belts attached to one handle. Sad what drives people. Is it mental illness, a hard life? I don’t know. My mom constantly took her frustration out on me. Never hit my own kids-can’t imagine hurting them. So don’t think because a parent is screwed up the kids will be too.
@anitataylor42874 жыл бұрын
Had the same kind of mom Stacy, well step-mom. I never had kids.
@simplykoko90334 жыл бұрын
Stacy Steele my mum would get angry out of nowhere. She’d even start crying out of no where but she never once hit me. EVER. We were in Africa btw where all kinds of abuse are welcomed but she never was mean to me
@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim4 жыл бұрын
Jesus, I am so sorry. Sounds like bipolar or borderline.
@thesummerland61654 жыл бұрын
@@anitataylor4287 same, my mother, father and eleven years older brother, all severely abusive
@mona10174 жыл бұрын
Stacy Steele she was also an alcoholic
@thepamela0504 жыл бұрын
Anyone that makes their children call them "Mother Dearest" I have to question them as a mother..
@deborahsanders67624 жыл бұрын
Mommy dearest was what Joan had them call her. Jackie Cooper, a child actor at the time had his mother on set with him. He called his mother Mother Dearest out of love and admiration. A few years later when Joan adopted Christina, this is what she made them call her. She wanted what Jackie Coopers mother had. But she didnt know how to be a mother.
@annearly32004 жыл бұрын
I called my paternal grandmother mother dear, but came out MaDea.
@linaa53414 жыл бұрын
Srsly tho😑😒
@kristopherwilhite26794 жыл бұрын
@@deborahsanders6762 who told you this?
@jaggirl4 жыл бұрын
@@kristopherwilhite2679 common knowledge...Ive heard that too.
@RavenousShadow6 жыл бұрын
In that “at home with Joan Crawford” you can hear them call her Mother dearest or mommy dearest... so creepy!
@Darrigrande6 жыл бұрын
The "mommie dearest" was part of the script of the Show in which she was the author and director!
@nikkienova94405 жыл бұрын
No she really made them call her that
@judytripp29084 жыл бұрын
Cute doggy pin!!!!
@shawndamccormick2785 жыл бұрын
2:13 more than 25 movies under her SHOULDER PADS! OMG! I'm almost in tears! Now THAT was just funny! 😂🤣😂
@bunnypoop45082 жыл бұрын
You must be 80 yr old 🤦♂️🙄
@geminijohnson40192 жыл бұрын
I totally believe Christina...I was an abused child and her stories ring true, I didn't grow up in a mansion, but not poor.
@Garsons-oq4lh2 жыл бұрын
The Logic of Christina Crawford Believers: I believe Christina Crawford! I was abused as a child, and despite that abuse occurring in a totally 'different' household, by totally 'different' people and in a totally 'different' decade, my story PROVES Joan Crawford abused her children! Joan Crawford's other children(Cathy and Cindy)'s stories DO NOT count! It doesn't matter that they were raised by the 'same' mother, in the 'same' household, and during the 'same' era! I know the truth because I was abused. **Credit to ChristinaCrawfordLied**
@viceramirez25632 жыл бұрын
@@Garsons-oq4lh Here's the thing about that. Christina wasn't alone in claiming the abuse was real. Aside from Christopher siding with her in admiting to the abuse, but some people who worked for Joan as well as some of her Hollywood peers and neighbors claimed later on they knew something was going on at the Crawford home. Granted Christina's writing the book after Joan death is sus, but there have been as many people who came forward in support of her as there were who dismissed her claims. Course this was Hollywood during the days of the Studio System. They would literally cover up murders, hit and runs, and rapes to protect their stars. So if Joan really did abuse her kids, it would have been covered up.
@jimbuxton21872 жыл бұрын
@@viceramirez2563 ....definitely 👍....even her secretary confirms it... along with others in the business. Alcohol is an evil thing.....
@Garsons-oq4lh2 жыл бұрын
@@jimbuxton2187 What is the name of the secretary? The one in this Scandals documentary was a failed actress.
@Desantisgogoboots Жыл бұрын
@@Garsons-oq4lh 🙄
@tonyarceneaux2863 жыл бұрын
Joan Crawford was lucky to be in a time that mostly Hollywood managed to hide their stars problems.
@Garsons-oq4lh2 жыл бұрын
Christina Crawford claims in "Mommie Dearest" that she was strangled by Joan Crawford in the summer of 1953. Here is how she describes this incident in her book: "The choking pain of her fingers around my throat met the thudding ache of the blow to the back of my head. She banged my head on the floor, tightening her grip around my throat....I gasped for air and felt myself sinking into unconsciousness as I tried desperately to fight back....If something or someone didn’t help me very soon I was going to die. I tried with the last bit of my strength to struggle free of those choking fingers and managed to wedge one of my knees between her body and mine and push upward on her ribs with my hands which loosened her grip slightly. It at least allowed a trickle of air down my throat and kept me from losing consciousness." -This type of physical attack would, no doubt, leave bruises to the neck and throat. However, according to Christina, she had no bruises to the neck or throat, and the bruises she claims to have received to the face were greatly diminished within "a few days." This is what Christina Crawford said regarding her "injuries" after this alleged strangulation: "I had one black eye and a cut on my upper lip that was swollen and covered with dried blood. My whole face was sort of puffy and I had a perfect handprint bruised across one cheek....A few days later I was on my way back to the Chadwick’s house...I still had vestiges of the black eye but the rest of my face had returned pretty much to normal." -This claim is medically impossible. Brusies to the face take at least a minimum of 1 to 2 weeks to fade. Perhaps this was a quick rationale by Christina in her book to account for no one seeing these "injuries" after she returned to Chadwicks. By 1988. Christina Crawford claimed in her book "Survivor" that the stroke she suffered in late 1981 was the result of this "strangulation." Christina claimed the strangulation caused an embolism (a blood clot) that blocked the flow of blood to her brain, and this embolism had lied dormant for over 28 years (1953 - 1981) without causing issue before it dislodged and flowed to her brain. This claim, in and of itself, is medically improbably, if not impossible. However, the impossibility is further enhanced when considering that Christina did not even have bruising to her throat from this alleged strangulation. In "Survivor" Christina writes: "In the hospital the doctors questioned me as thoroughly as they could about possible causes of my stroke. They were interested in what might have been a source of original damage to the left carotid artery in my neck since I had no history of high blood pressure or high cholesterol. They asked me about a car accident or a neck injury. I had experienced none. The only incident I could think of was a violent argument my mother and I had when I was thirteen years old. She had been drinking at the time and flew into a rage. I recalled this incident in the book Mommie Dearest, not knowing at the time I wrote about it that I would later have a stroke" This outrageous allegation is further debunked by a 1978 sworn deposition, whereby Christina DENIES knowledge of this incident. Along with a 1980 interview with the secretary (Billie Greene) who was an eye witness the evening Christina claimed this strangulation took place. Greene refuted the claim that Joan strangled or choked Christina. Billie Greene -Former secretary to Joan Crawford-unpublished interview 1980 “I believe I am quoted [in Christina’s book regarding the LIE that is the strangling incident] to have said something like, “Stop, you’ll kill her.” There was a point where they were having an argument. What precipitated it was possibly one of many misunderstandings. Or where Christina had lied to Joan, and the hostility was getting greater. Joan came towards her and gave her a good swat, and hit her towards the neck area. I remember at one point taking Joan’s arm when it was in midair and saying, “I want you to stop. You’re going to hurt her.” This was not for Christina’s sake. This was for Joan’s sake. No one wants to see anyone out of control. I can tell you that I’d never seen any discipline towards Christina or towards the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night. Possibly there was rage. I can’t conceive of the distortion, unless Christina had a deep-seated plan, a vendetta that was present even when she was 14. Christina lied often for absolutely no reason. [The book] was a pack of lies that made your hair stand on end. I have utter contempt for Christina." **ChristinaCrawfordLied**
@Desantisgogoboots Жыл бұрын
@@Garsons-oq4lh Take your meds lol
@kelseyhaight40156 жыл бұрын
Her eyebrows made her look intimidating plus they looked like boomerangs sharp enough to cut butter
@leecooper42135 жыл бұрын
Kelsey Haight: It's hard to believe that those monster eyebrows were ever fashionable, huh? Joan had very thin contoured eyebrows in her early pics, but they got thicker each year, eventually settling into the fat caterpillars. They look downright comical to me. She was known for her eyebrows & her mouth/lips. Her thick lips were actually an accident. When Joan was young (22-23 yrs old), she had 4 molar teeth removed on each side of her mouth in order to create distinctive cheekbones (a trick she had heard that Marlene Dietrich had done). Her mouth quickly became infected & very swollen... Her mouth was infected for quite a while before the infection was healed. But when her mouth returned to normal, her top lip remained swollen permanently. She used make-up to create a larger bottom lip in order to balance out her mouth area. Joan had recurring dental problems for the remainder of her life due to her early choice of removing molars (receding gums, painful infections, disintegrating jawbones). (BTW, no PROOF has ever been found stating that Marlene Dietrich ever had teeth removed to create that contoured cheekbone look, but that was the Hollywood rumor at the time.)
@julietspaghetti5 жыл бұрын
Maybe the eyebrows hid face lift scars
@lindamoore1924 жыл бұрын
😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
@lindamoore1924 жыл бұрын
@@leecooper4213 U SAID FAT CATTERPILLARS......BWAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@robertgarcia57494 жыл бұрын
Kelsey Haight lmao
@tessdurberville7116 жыл бұрын
June Allyson wrote in her autobiography what she witnessed at the Crawford home between Joan and Christina and it corroborated Christina's story. I believe June Allyson. She had absolutely nothing to gain by lying.
5 жыл бұрын
Tess d'Urberville Christopher also corroborated his sister's story and stood by her until his passing in '03. He also had nothing to gain by lying. Christina was telling the truth.
@starlite044 жыл бұрын
Joan's twin daughters tried to call Christina and Christopher liars; saying Joan was so good to them.
@11rokerito4 жыл бұрын
June lost custody of her daughters as an alcoholic. A mother should not criticize another when it is just as bad. Joan was sick, June was not. The truth is the truth.
@YTistooannoying4 жыл бұрын
@@11rokerito june had every right to criticize Joan and speak out about what she saw. Losing her children made her even more of an authority of what a bad parent is. And alcoholism IS a disease.
@CharlieChilders-wm9gb4 жыл бұрын
@ thanks to Christina's spitefulness, always having to have the last word, propaganda etc. She was 4 or 5 years older and it was easy for her to take him under her wing and teach him all the other-brainwashing. WheneverJoan was trying to correct Christina, Christina with spit out the words sarcastically and defiantly "yes Mommy dearest!!!😜😠😜😠😈👿🔥 The child from hell?!! How would you deal with a smirking child who must always have the last word?😯😮🤔
@peggymcpherson51125 жыл бұрын
She may have sold her soul to be a famous movie star she was definitely corrupt I don't care how abused you are as the child you get no pleasure from hurting others unless you love Darkness more than light
@georginam8243 жыл бұрын
That is true. They all sold their souls but anyone who abuses children is evil.
@bunnypoop45082 жыл бұрын
She was a drug addict and alcoholic
@brianwalsh1401 Жыл бұрын
Becoming a narcissist was her adaptation to her dysfunctional upbringing as a survival method. I'm not condoning her behavior. The opposite would be a codependent. They are completely opposites of one another and neither one of them is healthy.
@aslaglexox6 жыл бұрын
I believe Christina. Joan definitely has that crazy narcissistic vibe about her. It's sad she couldn't get help.
@windstorm10005 жыл бұрын
Bette said Joan should have raised puppies
@neetrab5 жыл бұрын
No, she COULD get help. She just didn't want it, it seems.
@eileenortiz-camacho73024 жыл бұрын
I relate in many ways because my mother treated me the same way. Took all her frustrations and anger on me ever since I could remember. So sad how ppl have kids, adopt or any other way and treat them like garbage and damage them for life, mentally.
@mikesemailaccount39856 жыл бұрын
Anyone that abuses children is evil.
@MonicaRodriguez-uj3di5 жыл бұрын
I have never ever hit my only son ,I promised myself if I ever had a child I would never beat or traumatize my child it is Evilll
@jimscribner83145 жыл бұрын
My Aunt Mary was as much of an alcoholic as Joan Crawford and had good reason to be, She divorced her first husband after he punched their son Al in the mouth when he a baby for crying when he was teething and knocked him across his crib. She had a reputation in the family of being wild and crazy but everybody had a lot of respect for her especially after Al her only child died in Vietnam. She was utterly fearless and tough as nails having been a victim of severe abuse by her grandfather who survived being shot in the head as a police officer but with extreme mental problems and her mother who had eleven kids and no tolerance for the alcoholism and rebellion Mary embodied. A lot of Aunt Mary's nieces and nephews and kids of friends of her including myself were taken care of by her and I don't personally consider her abusive or evil because she spanked my butt once for throwing a tantrum during a snowball fight in her house where I got tossed out a window by somebody into a snowbank, She was funny as hell to live with and taught me to laugh at life's problems instead of crying over them like Christina Crawford did about getting her butt spanked by a woman who made her a rich Hollywood celebrity,
@xxcharmed1xx5 жыл бұрын
Allegedly!
@angelal44845 жыл бұрын
If you do the research, you will find that Christina made the abuse up...She was mad because Joan left her nothing and the "tell all book" was her way to be compensated because she felt entitled.
@rustinmckee93215 жыл бұрын
Abusive skanky woman. End of story.
@NoQuarterIsHere Жыл бұрын
I still watch Joan Crawford. I’ve been watching her since I was very young with my mother. I love her extraordinary talent.
@Careless-carefree5 жыл бұрын
E is classless now. I used to watch that channel often when the content was informative and entertaining.
@missbopeep53076 жыл бұрын
I completely believe Christina. It all makes sense about the reason why she adopted those kids. It's completely a stunt so she can get more attention and fame. It's really so sad to do all that to an innocent child.
@t.j.77896 жыл бұрын
Most people adopt because they want what they want. Adoption should be about giving a loving home to a child who has none. I would have preferred to have been aborted. I can accept I am a survivor, at the moment. All of my problems aren't due to being adopted but it sure as hell contributed and formed me into the person I am!!! If the little girl who threw me away didn't want me I wish she would have had enough money for an abortion......I never would have known the difference. I will use my experiences to be there for other people who have none because I still have no family!
@karaa75956 жыл бұрын
Awww T. J. That breaks my heart to hear. You seem like a person God wanted here... He's got a purpose for you....there are a lot of people looking for a family...i pray you all find each other. ❤
@serenatwilite40056 жыл бұрын
T.J. Bless you for finding a way to use your bad experiences to put some good out in the world. My biological parents kept me, but due to their abuse and neglect, and a sibling I haven't spoken to in about 20 yrs., I spend a lot of days feeling like I have no family. I'm always reminded of what author Dr. Wayne Dyer used to say about family - that friends are God's way of apologizing for family. I'm sure a lot of people feel that way. Thank god there are ways we can create our own loving families.
@rejoicemultimediaimages6 жыл бұрын
So...that...all the celebrities adopting children such as Angelina Jolly & more...
@kaleoy75846 жыл бұрын
I don't believe Christina and I will tell you why. Christina wasn't Joan's first adopted child. The first child was a boy that she named Christopher. Shortly after that adoption, the birth parents wanted the baby back and winning a court case against Joan. Joan was extremely heart broken. She later adopted Christina, then later Joan adopted a boy and was also named Christopher. Her reasoning for naming the boy Christopher, was because she truly and still loved her first adopted child.. Joan had fears after adopting both Christina and Christopher (second boy) that the same thing would happen where the birth parents would take them away. So to believe Joan only adopted for publicity, I don't buy. She later adopted twins. Christina wasn't an angel. Joan may have disciplined her children that is not acceptable by today's standards, but it was acceptable back then. In fact, it was acceptable before Joan adopted children to the 1980s. Christina was a spoiled brat and felt entitlement. Joan provided for her children a great deal. She sent them to truly good schools (which were mostly boarding schools), fine clothing, fine eating, etc.. And just to add, celebrities commonly sent their kids to boarding schools, because as stated, they were truly good schools. Hilton sisters, Kardashian kids, and the likes all went to boarding schools, as well. Christopher was also not an angel either. When he didn't get his way, he would run away from home and committing crimes along the way. Christina wrote the scathing book to spite Joan for being left out of Joan's will. Christina needed money. She did go into acting for a while, but people that she worked with found her to possess a Diva personality. She would demand the biggest dressing rooms, for instance. She also pulled the "I am Joan Crawford's daughter" card when she didn't get her wishes. She was so difficult to work with that no one would hire her as an actor. Christina's first husband also claimed that Christina was demanding and vindictive. And I know some celebrities have claimed to have witnessed Joan abusing her children, but no one seems to ask them why they didn't say anything to the authorities. Because they never did anything when they felt the children were being overly disciplined, has me convinced those celebrities, like Christina, they had an ax to grin with Joan. Joan's secretary for nearly 50 years named Betty Barker stated that Joan was strict with her children, but they were never abused to the extent of which both book and movie depicted Joan as being. Hollywood news story writer Liz Smith stated in one of her articles "I was inclined to believe Joan was misguided in her attempts to 'mold' her children-and was vain and self-absorbed like most great stars-but the stories of beatings and near-madness were over the top.". Christina did mocked the so-called abuse on a show in the 80s. She made fun of the so-called wire hanger alleged incident, which I found very troubling. If one suffers from any form of extreme abuse, one does NOT feel the desire to mock it. Simply for the fact it was a dramatic event and should never be made fun of. The point of my winded reply, is hopefully encourage you to do more research and not rely solely on Christina's book. When I first saw the movie back when it came out, I bought the book and read it. I truly believed at the time Christina was telling the truth. I later decided to research Christina Crawford and Christopher Crawford. It was then when I started to see a more clearer picture of who Christina is. This is why I'll never believe Christina. Remember, she only decided to write the scathing book AFTER Joan had passed and Christina finding out her and Christopher were left out of the will. The twins were in the will, but not Christina and Christopher. I will add that both Christina and Christopher contested the will and won in court and was awarded money from Joan's estate. Another sign of entitlement by those two. Another sign of going against Joan's wishes. Christina and Christopher are not the innocent victims of extreme child abuse and Joan was not the monster they both made her out to be.
@manhater7996 жыл бұрын
Christina seems very credible. I read the book and I have the movie. I believe her. Joan reminds me very much of my mom. It's just sad all the way around. I believe that Joan was extremely narcissistic.
@OikPoinFive6 жыл бұрын
Crawford is sadly in hell. Satan controls Hollywood. I'm a forner atheist
@iknowmewhoareyou26156 жыл бұрын
Levi's Mommy i mean she was a drunk.... could she be an abusive drunk?
@manhater7996 жыл бұрын
The D=Savage Athiest, May I ask what changed your mind?
@manhater7996 жыл бұрын
nia sara, Maybe or she could have been bipolar.
@Chelsaroo226 жыл бұрын
What I appreciate is that Christina’s expose comes from a kind, compassionate place
@karaamundson39643 жыл бұрын
I read the book when I was 15 and my heart froze like ice. I felt, reading about those poor children, that I, too, could run, but not hide.
@erickanew2 жыл бұрын
That B lied. She was after money
@Giselle_Glam594 Жыл бұрын
Yup! Christina did it 4 money! Joan left her out the will & shorty been hateful ever since
@Giselle_Glam594 Жыл бұрын
@@erickanew thank u!
@skyjust8284 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for the whole family she obviously wasn't loved as a child she cared more about the beautiful dresses than the beautiful spirits of the children she paid to raise!!!
@katycheeseburger5 жыл бұрын
When you see Joan interviews, especially the later colour ones, she has less warmth behind her eyes than a dead mackerel on ice at Zabars.
@neetrab5 жыл бұрын
LOL right?
@KingofgraceSARA5 жыл бұрын
Just like my mother. The scowl is frightening. The coldness is terrifying.
@emmashuffle6457 Жыл бұрын
There’s a whole lot of people who claim they witnessed this and did nothing… Her close friend even admits that she abused her children and is smiling while talking about it and didn’t claim to even attempt to do anything about it. Really sad and honestly just as bad as abusing children.
@princessbell25305 жыл бұрын
It's time for EVERYONE to stop glossing over the fact that Christopher may have been sold or stolen. We need to find out where he came from. People NEED to be held accountable.
@deaconsmom20005 жыл бұрын
Does Christopher want you in his business? How arrogant of you to think you know what's best for him.
@Muirmaiden4 жыл бұрын
@@deaconsmom2000 Christopher died in 2006.
@shebamaree90264 жыл бұрын
He knew. He was in the army
@ninewectawski19352 жыл бұрын
@Max! Max! 😳😂🤣🤣🤣
@ih8utbe3 ай бұрын
Christopher was actually born in Oklahoma as Christina later learned. I believe he was bought through a broker. Not Georgia Tann. The twin sisters were bought from Georgia Tann's Tennesee Childrens Home. Christopher passed away in September 2006. He lived a very private life.
@robihart155 жыл бұрын
Faye Dunaway was brilliant in 'Mommy Dearest'!!
@lisamartin37345 жыл бұрын
Faye Dunaway hated the fact she will be remember as JC in Mommy Dearest.
@cindysnow8024 жыл бұрын
But it ruined her career.
@rucianapollard40574 жыл бұрын
She deserved an Academy Award
@norman64922 жыл бұрын
"NO WIRE HANGERS!"
@maggieotsuka12666 жыл бұрын
Joan Crawford didn;t love those kids and they knew it.
@paulinejordan69054 жыл бұрын
She always claimed that the kids didn't love her. She said it was as if they couldn't stand the sound of her voice. Maybe she imagined it. But she could sense it I guess.
@rachealfuller96984 жыл бұрын
So abusive ho bag😠sorry to her kids 😰
@Ego-de4dt4 жыл бұрын
Pauline Jordan in Mommy Dearest you can kind of see Christina was over her. She was very defiant. But I believe Joan never felt loved by anyone.
@albertcarello54893 жыл бұрын
Too bad DCFS didn't discover Joanne and had her prosecuted!!!!! Too bad sime cop didn't give her the combination of the George Floyd and Rodney King treatment combined!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ChildlessCatLady3 жыл бұрын
@@albertcarello5489 There wasn't a DCFS at the time...kids had to fend for themselves until child protective agencies came in to being during the next decade.
@ericawaters52465 жыл бұрын
I wish this series would come back. I haven’t watched this channel since in years.
@carsonphillips5246 жыл бұрын
The video is definitely wrong about her career declining after 'Mildred Pierce' (1945), for which she won an Oscar. She was very successful and popular again well into the early and mid 1950's. She re-invented herself and made a huge comeback with Mildred Pierce. Her movies were huge hits like 'Humoresque' and 'Possessed' which raked in millions for her. She outlasted most of the big stars from the 1930's who were never heard from again.
@Be123972 жыл бұрын
Thanks for correcting this!
@bunnypoop45082 жыл бұрын
Of course you did because she slept with everybody in Hollywood
@tombovitale25975 жыл бұрын
Poor Christina Crawford it's amazing what a good person she came out to be I can tell from her talk shows and what she went through because she had a life of Hell growing up with her mother Joan Crawford and she raised kids herself and was a good mother and a good person Christina was nothing like her mother it's a miracle she came out to be a great person like she is
@cafeAmericano2 жыл бұрын
If by good person you mean someone who has more holes in her story than a Swiss cheese factory... Her alleged sob story as a meal ticket because she has no talent and nothing else to offer at all. She's not an abuse victim. She's just a professional victim. So long as there's a check involved.
@garyborg23452 жыл бұрын
@@cafeAmericano A professional whiner here. A talentless youtube commenter, the usual thinking they're better.
@Giselle_Glam594 Жыл бұрын
Christina a liar, mad about that will..Joan ain't owe her ish
@Giselle_Glam594 Жыл бұрын
@@cafeAmericano thank u! Shorty want money & banking off Joan's name
@Spider-Fan006 Жыл бұрын
Christina's accusations are as ludicrous as pigs flying sure there are multiple people who corroborate her statements but there are just as much people who don't not to mention she finished the book just after her mother's death is very suspicious if you ask me and on top of that her mother refused to give a part of her will because of the book serves as a nice plausible motive if you ask me Christina has no evidence outside of a book and a questionable documentary to prove her outrageous accusations. Christina is about as believable as Amber Heard's testimony against Johnny Depp. I'd give her accusations a 7/10 a plausible accusation but one so full of holes even an archaeologist can't dig it all up and find anything accurate so until more evidence comes to light Christina can't be possibly believed Joan is innocent till proven guilty and I stand by that fact about justice and I will fight till the end to keep that fact in short I have very high doubts on Christina's accusations against her mother sorry for the long comment.
@DigitalMadrigal Жыл бұрын
Amazing how the word "narcissist" isn't heard in this documentary.
@nettiegurl4 жыл бұрын
Those who call out Christina a liar over the alleged abuse need their heads examined. An old friend of mine suffered similar emotional and physical abuse at the hands of her (slightly overweight) narcissistic mother who envied her own daughter's model-perfect looks and body. Regularly shaming my friend, calling her horrible things that I became witness far too often, like attacking and blaming my friend for any stupid thing, and 'chasing around' etc. Thankfully my friend's dad figured out what was going on and switched shifts so that he was HOME after 330pm, and the abuse stopped. But I will NEVER forget what I witnessed. Joan being a celebrity and alcoholic NEVER excused her terrible behavior. Far as looks, Joan was attractive, but no "beauty" compared to her rivals Davis, Harlow, and Francis. Such truth eats away at a screen diva, and got the worst of her.
@erickanew2 жыл бұрын
That chick lied. All kinds of people that were around never saw this. They said she was a spoiled brat
@miwfreak43122 жыл бұрын
@@erickanew I hate that you'd say that. Why would she lie on her own mother? Joan was manipulative and a famous Hollywood star. Of course these people said she didn't. You can still admire a movie star and admit their wrongdoing.
@erickanew2 жыл бұрын
@@miwfreak4312 a lot of people said she lied. She did it to make money and was upset with her mother because she didn't leave her anything. She wasn't even around her mother most of her childhood because she was in boarding school. She's awful for lying like that
@coryburns9161 Жыл бұрын
@@erickanew if you weren't there you don't actually know I think that Joan Crawford was great from what I know of her but I don't know her private life. I just saw if you watched this you did to another person who said that she saw some abuse
@erickanew Жыл бұрын
@@coryburns9161 I saw a special on it. They found all kinds of holes in this lady's story. She just got really angry that Joan didn't leave her any money. Idk I guess most people would be ticked if they had a rich parent that didn't leave them a dime. I always hate things that tell a really bad story on someone that's dead. They have no way to defend themselves
@davidvillanueva81715 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was about 5 years old I saw her on TV in a movie called "I Saw What You Did ". I didn't know who she was or what the movie was called until years later, but I remember her shrieking and clawing and slapping her way through out the film, first abusing her husband and then a group of teenage girls who were just out pulling a harmless prank. She scared the hell out of me back then.
@bubblesbubbles34156 жыл бұрын
Christina was her mother's scapegoat. I know how that feels
@MrsAngelaGrogan15 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately so do I.
@anitataylor42874 жыл бұрын
Same.
@anitataylor42874 жыл бұрын
@Christine Mills Fear of her mothers wrath. Think about it!!!!!!!!
@aviniciussouza1004 жыл бұрын
@Christine Mills So easy to say anything when you are not the one being abused by your parents.
@katelyndonley96044 жыл бұрын
@Christine Mills Christina had every right to be afraid of her. Joan had a lot of connections, it wouldn't be hard to ruin Christina's life with them. Or it could simply be she was terrified, which is viable. It may not make sense, but when you gi through the things she did, you are so afraid to do or say anything. My abuser was behind bars and I was still terrified. Years of abuse causes extreme paranoia that I truly hope you never have to understand.
@mandycookie50802 жыл бұрын
Still legendary after all these years. I haven't seen any other film like it.. My 10yr daughter had to hide a little during the wire coat hanger scene. Mommy dearest who grew to be one narcissistic, passive aggressive, single, independent mother also struggling with her own alchol addiction, too rich for any social workers to come investigate. It also shoes a women who goes through aging and insecurity. Her sword cuts both ways. 🗡
@NikonChicFL5 жыл бұрын
Back when E! was watchable!!!
@triciajohansen30273 жыл бұрын
Yes, I liked the biographies of the stars.
@brahmabkitty036 жыл бұрын
I saw in another documentary that the secretary said that Christina lied but she wasn't on camera saying it. I believe Christina bc people dont want to believe bad things about people on camera.
@jordynsimmons11073 жыл бұрын
what documentary?
@Garsons-oq4lh2 жыл бұрын
Christina Crawford claims in "Mommie Dearest" that she was strangled by Joan Crawford in the summer of 1953. Here is how she describes this incident in her book: "The choking pain of her fingers around my throat met the thudding ache of the blow to the back of my head. She banged my head on the floor, tightening her grip around my throat....I gasped for air and felt myself sinking into unconsciousness as I tried desperately to fight back....If something or someone didn’t help me very soon I was going to die. I tried with the last bit of my strength to struggle free of those choking fingers and managed to wedge one of my knees between her body and mine and push upward on her ribs with my hands which loosened her grip slightly. It at least allowed a trickle of air down my throat and kept me from losing consciousness." -This type of physical attack would, no doubt, leave bruises to the neck and throat. However, according to Christina, she had no bruises to the neck or throat, and the bruises she claims to have received to the face were greatly diminished within "a few days." This is what Christina Crawford said regarding her "injuries" after this alleged strangulation: "I had one black eye and a cut on my upper lip that was swollen and covered with dried blood. My whole face was sort of puffy and I had a perfect handprint bruised across one cheek....A few days later I was on my way back to the Chadwick’s house...I still had vestiges of the black eye but the rest of my face had returned pretty much to normal." -This claim is medically impossible. Bruises to the face take at least a minimum of 1 to 2 weeks to fade. Perhaps this was a quick rationale by Christina in her book to account for no one seeing these "injuries" after she returned to Chadwicks. By 1988. Christina Crawford claimed in her book "Survivor" that the stroke she suffered in late 1981 was the result of this "strangulation." Christina claimed the strangulation caused an embolism (a blood clot) that blocked the flow of blood to her brain, and this embolism had lied dormant for over 28 years (1953 - 1981) without causing issue before it dislodged and flowed to her brain. This claim, in and of itself, is medically improbably, if not impossible. However, the impossibility is further enhanced when considering that Christina did not even have bruising to her throat from this alleged strangulation. In "Survivor" Christina writes: "In the hospital the doctors questioned me as thoroughly as they could about possible causes of my stroke. They were interested in what might have been a source of original damage to the left carotid artery in my neck since I had no history of high blood pressure or high cholesterol. They asked me about a car accident or a neck injury. I had experienced none. The only incident I could think of was a violent argument my mother and I had when I was thirteen years old. She had been drinking at the time and flew into a rage. I recalled this incident in the book Mommie Dearest, not knowing at the time I wrote about it that I would later have a stroke" This outrageous allegation is further debunked by a 1978 sworn deposition, whereby Christina DENIES knowledge of this incident. Along with a 1980 interview with the secretary (Billie Greene) who was an eye witness the evening Christina claimed this strangulation took place. Greene refuted the claim that Joan strangled or choked Christina. Billie Greene -Former secretary to Joan Crawford-unpublished interview 1980 “I believe I am quoted [in Christina’s book regarding the LIE that is the strangling incident] to have said something like, “Stop, you’ll kill her.” There was a point where they were having an argument. What precipitated it was possibly one of many misunderstandings. Or where Christina had lied to Joan, and the hostility was getting greater. Joan came towards her and gave her a good swat, and hit her towards the neck area. I remember at one point taking Joan’s arm when it was in midair and saying, “I want you to stop. You’re going to hurt her.” This was not for Christina’s sake. This was for Joan’s sake. No one wants to see anyone out of control. I can tell you that I’d never seen any discipline towards Christina or towards the other children that I would call out of control. There was not brutality that night. Possibly there was rage. I can’t conceive of the distortion, unless Christina had a deep-seated plan, a vendetta that was present even when she was 14. Christina lied often for absolutely no reason. [The book] was a pack of lies that made your hair stand on end. I have utter contempt for Christina." **ChristinaCrawfordLied**
@erinthesystem96086 жыл бұрын
Personally, I think the only real reason they "don't make them like that anymore" is simply due to the demise- for better and worse- of Hollywood's old Studio system, which demanded the creation of "Stars" and guaranteed actors under studio contract a set number of movies before contract's expiration.
@brittanyfinney53862 жыл бұрын
I love this movie so much because it’s based on a true story
@RSTAR20093 жыл бұрын
The story of "Mommie Dearest" is my late father. Years later I learned that my Mom did not love him but was pressured to marry. We paid for it through PHYSICAL ABUSE
@sheba13075 жыл бұрын
The actress for mommy dearest as the mom was a superb actress
5 жыл бұрын
She Ba Yep, Faye Dunaway was Oscar-worthy in that, far as I'm concerned! Pretty sad that it derailed her career for many years.
@caseythompson4745 жыл бұрын
Her performance was SPOT-ON! It scared me! The depiction of her OCD when washing her face, the wire hangers, and the comet was telling! The “adoption” was nothing more than a black market baby ring. There’s a movie with Mare Winningham that talks about the woman who would take people’s babies and sell them. That was where Joans kids came from.
@tasibho4 жыл бұрын
My mother was like that. Fits of rage out of nowhere. So random. Zero to 100 in an instant. Sometimes you wouldnt even know what set her off. And when she is in that zone Lord the terror. Like a wild animal. Merciless to bitter out cries. Cruel at times. I just never understood that anger. But as i got older i realised she had a deeper pain inside than that she inflicted on us. She needed healing. The best thing i ever learnt is that parents are human too. We expect them to be perfect but we receive them as flawed as everyone else. Acceptance of the revelation that at that time she did the best she could. The best she KNEW HOW. Being a parent doesnt change that.
@Chaseniceness2 жыл бұрын
Same. My mum was an alcoholic and she would suddenly shout at the television actors. I switched it off. Big mistake. I forgive her everything because she was very unhappy and never loved my dad.
@lmonnette40376 жыл бұрын
Anyone who drinks around kids, is bitter and had a career that is over would be hell to live with. Let's be honest,... she was a monster.
@erk445 жыл бұрын
Thats a really judgemental comment. Btw im not a monster. And im tired of being put in that category because of my choices
@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim4 жыл бұрын
ER K drinking and being bitter around your children? Lol it’s not up to us judge, but just wait till your kids grow up
@DellaStreet1233 жыл бұрын
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim No @ER K should quit drinking, if not for his/herself, then at least for the children. Children don't deserve to grow up with alcoholic parents, especially not parents that drink in their presence.
@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim3 жыл бұрын
@@DellaStreet123 that was exactly my point. Little children can’t express themselves, but once they grow up the parents will see how much damage their “harmless drinking” has done
@DellaStreet1233 жыл бұрын
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim I'm glad we agree. By the way, I'm under the impression that when people bark "Don't judge", they know they are in the wrong.
@graciesaccardo93633 жыл бұрын
Sending prayers for all her beloved family and friends 🙏🙏🌹🌹
@Justintime619 Жыл бұрын
Joan Crawford is the best thing that happened to Christina Crawford.. she spent her life tearing down Joan’s legacy…
@shannonmarie24176 жыл бұрын
I keep seeing comment saying that her two Step kids never experienced the abuse Christina and Christopher had...and I'm sure they didnt..becuz they had some one looking out for them, thier biological mother..Christina and Christopher had no one looking out for them..they were easy pray for a mentally ill person.
@sharong85116 жыл бұрын
Shannon Marie Good point, Shannon. Joan could, and did, abuse the oldest two without any repercussions. How sad for them, and for all abused children, whether natural or adopted. When my kids were younger I kept a sharp eye out for any neighbourhood kids that looked dirty and hungry, and reported my concerns more than once to the local DFAC, Department of Children and Families. I fed many kids over the years and always welcomed my kids friends inside if it was cold and miserable outside.
@JosannaMonik6 жыл бұрын
Also, by the time Joan adopted the last two children, she was more mature and a bit less selfish, so their experience with her was different. That is why they deny that she was abusive.
@suejuede5256 жыл бұрын
Shannon Marie.....you are so right, also in those days there was little to no help for foster, adopted,, kids and kids whom were wards of the state......also I do believe the articles I've read about Joan Crawford making a pass at Betty Davis....from all stand points Crawford was "By-sexyal she and Marilyn Monroe was involved in a couple of sexual escapades.
@gregguralnik25126 жыл бұрын
Shannon Marie well they weren't really adopted, she bought them from brokers
@cloudburstlia4565 жыл бұрын
Shannon Marie yup! Plus the younger two are 8 years younger!!! And she was married again when the younger twins 👯 were being raised and he was apparently a nice guy who was nice to the little girls so she was nicer to them too lol
@dinastiachowfan14015 жыл бұрын
Ryan Seacrest killed E!
@anitataylor42874 жыл бұрын
Yep!!
@kerranky6 жыл бұрын
joan crawford was rejected by betty davis according to betty davis when interviewed on a tv show.
@stevistarfyre32275 жыл бұрын
I miss that show.aj benzi looks great today..I miss great tv of yesteryear
@wmpetroff2307 Жыл бұрын
God Bless Christina and her brother. Joan was a grotesque woman.
@MelancholyRequiem6 жыл бұрын
Considering the absolutely appalling childhood Jan Crawford endured, from an abusive mother to losing her virginity at 11 with her step-father, is it REALLY that hard to believe she was abusive to her first two adopted children?
@tiffythekewlchick34576 жыл бұрын
Samantha Divis no it isn't because during this time. Joan's career was kind of getting lost so she had her moments and that was it but other than that I truly believe that she did love her children
@bennymartinez60996 жыл бұрын
Samantha Divis it’s actually not very hard to believe most people Who are abusers were abused in their childhood it’s a cycle repeats The very sad part is that there were paparazzi , Reporters and people who worked for her was. Have come out and said yeah I saw her abusing her kids and drinking all the time. did nothing to help Those two kids and Joan Crawford. Which was very common for the time
@anastasia100176 жыл бұрын
Joan Crawford had difficulty adopting via normal routes because she was considered an unacceptable parental candidate and was rejected. She had to find more unconventional ways to adopt where adoption laws were more lax. Or as Christina said, she didn't adopt children, she bought them. Christina also says they could never find any adoption papers for her brother.
@wasteland706 жыл бұрын
Actually, if Joan Crawford's childhood was that terrible, inflicting it on her own children isn't surprising. And learn to spell. It's Joan, not Jan.
@Emz3516 жыл бұрын
Having a poor childhood doesn’t excuse her behaviour towards those two poor children! My childhood was difficult at times (psychological abuse), yet my children will NEVER experience hurt and upset like I did!
@mariaevans78113 жыл бұрын
I love Joan Crawford, a great actress, loved her fans, and was always grateful to them, Joan always looked elegant, but I don't think she would have been an easy mother to have, but you know on screen she was pure magic!!!!! 🐩🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@neverimproving33813 жыл бұрын
no
@mssweetjamesjones834 жыл бұрын
Joan was a monster but also an excellent Actress, can't take that away. Love her movies
@bunnypoop45082 жыл бұрын
Also a good business women
@mssweetjamesjones832 жыл бұрын
@@bunnypoop4508 Yesss! That she was!! And you know what...I don't think that she was monster after watching more docs and reading up more on Mrs. Crawford...can't go by what ppl say abt a person who is not here to defend themselves 😊 RIP to Mrs. Joan!!! Still enjoy watching her movies 💕💕💕
@bunnypoop45082 жыл бұрын
@@mssweetjamesjones83 Hollywood was a very tough and curl business and she was up against a lot of odds. So I understand her attitude
@mssweetjamesjones832 жыл бұрын
@@bunnypoop4508 You're absolutely right!
@bunnypoop45082 жыл бұрын
@@mssweetjamesjones83 people conveniently forget how sexist and misogynistic Hollywood was back in the day. It was way worst then today
@jellyjamese31345 жыл бұрын
That Woman at 13:24 made me laugh out loud,there's this magical thing called bisexuality. It's where someone can be attracted to both men and women at the same time! Mind blown! But in all seriousness,there was talk of Joan Crawford having multiple affairs with other actresses. Including Marilyn Monroe! This was even confirmed by Christina Crawford herself.
@twoarrows25435 жыл бұрын
EWWWW....
@cheryldevine423 жыл бұрын
🤮
@veronicaave47874 жыл бұрын
Damn the shade is real with this guy 😂😂 what Joan ever do to him 😂😂
@SweetSeraph93 Жыл бұрын
Fr 😂
@yveslolou7395 жыл бұрын
She blew her way to the top
@DENAANN10006 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Christina exposed her.
@OikPoinFive6 жыл бұрын
Fuck ur feelings me two
@andressegui12366 жыл бұрын
that's not true, the governess of the house which lived in it at the time Christina and Christopher were kids, says she didn't abuse the children.
@rakesfunnyfarm6 жыл бұрын
They were abused, hollywood finally came out and said they knew.
@pguthrie2226 жыл бұрын
Fuck ur feelings 👍👍👍
@tonyd94556 жыл бұрын
Who is hollywood? Is that person?
@stellahaley23154 жыл бұрын
There's music in the background when they're talking about her making a pass at Bette Davis. They used this music on Harvey birdman as the theme music
@heru-deshet3595 жыл бұрын
An amazing actress with a very sordid past.
@shavonnestacia28655 жыл бұрын
I miss this show.
@roscko56244 жыл бұрын
This is my mom!!! 💯 my mom!!!!! Lol for the longest time my brothers always called her mother dearest and she thought it was cuz of this movie hahaha it prob was his reason!!! But man this is crazy!!! So my mom!!!
@abbyrose69986 жыл бұрын
OMG!! Christina came from the Tennessee childrens home!!! WAS SHE one of the STOLEN???? There is a scandel!!!
@georgialee67556 жыл бұрын
Abby It was the twins who came from TN
@tiffythekewlchick34576 жыл бұрын
Abby Rose I believe the kids Joan adopted were black market
@shadamorris746 жыл бұрын
yes the place where she got the babies from , they stolen ALL the babies thats how she was able to get the babies
@jaymesguy2396 жыл бұрын
The 'Twins', not Christina. She was Georgia Tann. Mary Tyler Moore portrayed her in a movie. She was some piece of work, that Georgia. www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1131282/The-Hollywood-Baby-Snatcher-The-sinister-story-woman-stole-children-sold-stars.html
@shadamorris746 жыл бұрын
Jaymes Guy Georgia Tann Gave her all her kids look up georgia tann and it would tell u i study women serial killers and georgia tann was one of them the movie only shows christina and her brother but in real life georgia tann gave her all her kids , and all the kids that georgia tann had at her adoption agency was stolen look it up
@monique380083 жыл бұрын
Could never do this to a child, especially my own
@Carol-D.13245 жыл бұрын
I used to love this show! ♥️
@joseenoel80935 жыл бұрын
I love 'Mommy Dearest', makes more sense of my own horrible childhood!
@amandawhiteley67372 жыл бұрын
Similar, my grandfather was the serial abuser to me sexually, but I'm a wife mother aunt and now grandmother, but I swear I'd never take it out on everything and everybody, especially kids, poor Christina and Christopher didn't deserve this treatment. My sympathy goes out to all victims of any violent or any kind of sexual abuse no matter how old they are. My father got the physical abuse been around 15 16, but hell he fought back My grandfather never did that again!@
@trishbaum6364 Жыл бұрын
Wow Joan Crawford is my great grandma's generation
@woxyroxme2 жыл бұрын
When Bette Davis was nominated for best actress for Whatever Happened To Baby Jane, Joan Crawford contacted the other nominees and offered to accept the award for them if they won. Anne Bancroft wound up winning and when Joan Crawford went up to the podium to accept the award Bette Davis was beyond furious
@Garsons-oq4lh2 жыл бұрын
And Joan is supposed to have prevented Bette from winning is that it? There is no proof Joan had anything to do with Bette not winning and noone (except a delusional Bette and at the expense of Bancroft) has come foward to proclaim so.
@beverlym25606 жыл бұрын
Hi, I enjoy your Mysteries and Scandals very much, I only have one problem and that is the volume is to low, and I have a hard time hearing it.
@hallowedflag33735 жыл бұрын
Get you a pair of earbuds😊I love mine.
@karenbochinski6 жыл бұрын
Christina seems very credible. Joan Crawford seems scary to me
@wendyfrederick2507 Жыл бұрын
She adopted Christina from a place in TN. I wonder if it was Georgia Tann, the Tennessee Children's home. I saw that Christina was the only kid she actually adopted. She bought the others from Georgia Tann who stole up to 5000 kids.
@mssweetjamesjones836 жыл бұрын
Man I miss this show!
@kaitlynscott47062 жыл бұрын
This show was soooo good! I miss it 😢
@Chaseniceness2 жыл бұрын
I remember a part of the book when Christina thought she may have been better off if she was in a children's home.
@dudefromkc61824 жыл бұрын
Betty really did kick Joan in the head while filming What Ever Happened To Baby Jane.
@rrrzz17415 жыл бұрын
Man i was just playin LA Noire. Then I opened youtube and got all these classic hollywood scandals on recommendation. Wtf yt
@SB-hc1nt5 жыл бұрын
Joan Craford's best performances were Mildred Pierce(1945), Whatever Happened to Baby Jane(1962) also one of Betty Davis's best role creepy to this day, The Women(1939 Crystal Allen character later played by Eva Mendez), Daisy Kenyon(1947)her best silent film The Unknown (1927, Tod Browning directed later on made Freaks-1932 one of my favorite horror films). She was actually pretty in that film she looked hard in the face in most roles. Good acting, but handling life she was a mess. I think one of her adoptions she had a acquired a child from the infamous Georgia Tann with the Tennessee Children's Home Society. Tann was more ruthless than Crawford in some cases.
@jenmar45405 жыл бұрын
She didn't care about anyone but herself. She had no right to adopt those children.
@veronicaave47874 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about how the re-enactment Joan looks so much like her
@marlisbuckner56316 жыл бұрын
I thought with each year Ms Crawford got stranger and stranger looking. Where should one rest their eyes, the mouth or the eyebrows?
@angelanova97325 жыл бұрын
What about her looked strange? Im just wondering, i’m watching this for the first time and I’m not sure what i’m looking at...women’s looks were much different back then so it’s hard to figure out what looks unordinary
@margaretkearsey7345 жыл бұрын
@@angelanova9732 It reminds me of a saying- The first thirty years is the face you are born with, the second thirty years is the face you earn. Beautiful when she was young but she earned her uncomplimentary life and looks by her actions
@KingofgraceSARA5 жыл бұрын
That happens to them. It's happening to my mother, as we speak.
@maggiemae77495 жыл бұрын
The older she got she looked more manly
@OrangeTabbyCat5 жыл бұрын
spooky katt yeah...see...for this I'll report you to youtube. Just. Like.This...snap!
@garywayne8229 Жыл бұрын
Joan Crawford was a monster. I believe Christina. And thanks to Mommie Dearest the whole world knows the truth about Joan Crawford.
@user-sn5jr1ji9h3 жыл бұрын
People have so much sympathy for Christina Crawford, but none for Joan who was sexually abused as a child, whose father left her and whose mother didn't want her. I'm not condoning the alleged child abuse, but no one is born evil. Joan Crawford had an appalling childhood and she simply didn't know how to love.
@uri61943 жыл бұрын
Why can’t E do stories like this? I loved the way they take you step by step instead of 10-20 second takes
@larryquirap51546 жыл бұрын
He never left his best friend William Haines when he was almost down due to being blacklisted by being gay in Hollywood. She is a good friend.
@baberina15 жыл бұрын
Yea, but not a good mother. Yea, she's the best.
@angelanova97325 жыл бұрын
Who is he? Is this related to the comments that some people think she was a man?
@TK-xu4jz5 жыл бұрын
Loved this show
@pamelamays41863 жыл бұрын
Back when E! was truly entertaining.
@Muirmaiden4 жыл бұрын
Child abuse is not really about the child or the child's behavior; rather, it's about the abuser's negative feelings towards themselves or the people who mistreated them (most often a parent). Children are easy targets because they can't fight back.
@brainsareus5 жыл бұрын
Love the ''tongue in cheek'' decadence of M&S's.
@BXshqip8710 ай бұрын
Joan Crawford was born on 1906 my aunt went to high school with her
@kimclayton28606 жыл бұрын
Helen Hayes son spent the night at the Crawford residence with Christopher and told his mother about the cuffs attached to Christopher's bed since he walked in his sleep. But Christopher was no longer a little child when JC continued this practice. However after JC came in to kiss Christopher goodnight and left, he easily got out of the cuffs. But Helen Hayes did say (I think in sadness about JC) that Joan tried to be all things to all people. I just wished she had never tried to be a mother. That probably sums her up more than anything else on the blog. JC I don't think was in her way being cruel but didn't know any better. Kids raised in that era were raised wrongly but today but not in that time. Anyway happy I had my parents I had.
@tiffythekewlchick34576 жыл бұрын
Kim Clayton she went to a convent school and they taught her discipline and all this stuff. Plus when she adopted Christina and Christopher, this was during the time that her career was kind of getting lost and so Joanie had her blackouts and moments but I truly believe that she did love her children
@kimclayton28606 жыл бұрын
I agree she did love them as best as she understood. Being abused herself it's hard to understand the right way to raise kids. Even today it's very hard. Hope she has peace now. ty friend.
@3lorrainechapman7696 жыл бұрын
TiffyGames billie holiday with stanley crouch.
@moonscout37022 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Giselle_Glam594 Жыл бұрын
Joan was a boss, glam goddess! Took those poor children into her lavish lifestyle & 1 is 4ever bitter & hateful, over a will🔥 Joan worked & worked, everyday of her life, that money was made from herself & imo she didn't have to leave a will 2 NOBODY🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@myqueenimagivemydumassopin68415 жыл бұрын
Wow...she was crazy...
@wonderbars362 жыл бұрын
Definitely a star long before my time but I never would've guessed how sick she was.
@melissacallan58755 жыл бұрын
Does this remind anyone of the old time gangsters narrating this show