Job and St. Augustine in one film: The Tree of Life (2011)

Job and St. Augustine in one film: The Tree of Life (2011) | Criteria: The Catholic Film Podcast

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@bobtaylor170 2 күн бұрын

Hi, Thomas, I'm this series' Protestant devote. Programs such as this one minister to me in ways which you can't imagine. Thank you and your friends for doing them.

@CatholicCulturePod 2 күн бұрын

Thanks and you are very welcome! God bless you and merry Christmas!

@marjoriehoglund8754 Ай бұрын

Thank you for this KZbin ! I would not know about many of these films without your KZbins ! Blessings from Michigan ! 🌟

@ivanmoore4749 Ай бұрын

Thank you, guys. I've been waiting for this review for months and you did not disappoint. Thanks for the insights and thoughtfulness about this film from one of my favorite directors. Your channel has been very important in the formation of this cinema lover and young-Catholic-convert. God bless you. Keep up the good work.

@CatholicCulturePod Ай бұрын

Awesome! Thanks for your comment and God bless you!

@CountSolo 21 күн бұрын

Longtime listener here. Thanks for all your hard work putting together these podcast episodes. Been a cinephile long before I started listening to you guys but it’s always great to hear your perspective on cinematic masterpieces like “The Tree of Life” (one of my all-time favourite films). At the urging of our parish priest, I actually recently started an initiative in our parish here in Vancouver (or Richmond, BC, more accurately) where we would screen a movie every month, followed by discussions after the screening. The first movies I showed were “Toy Story 3” and “It’s a Wonderful Life”, and they both had decent turnouts and generated lively discussions. We’ll be watching “Of Gods and Men” in January. I’m trying to start with films that are a bit more accessible to mainstream audiences, before gradually easing them into stuff from Ozu, Kubrick, S. Ray, etc. I’m also a big Star Wars fan (and a *huge* defender of the prequels, which are an absolute masterclass in pure filmmaking), so I’ll definitely find some way to insert that into this event 😅 Unrelated to this episode, but I also had a question. I’ve known about the Vatican Film List for a long time (read Steven Greydanus’ article when I was still in high school, and have seen 41 of the 45 films in the list). However, the only sources I can find for the list are secondary sources - eg, Steven Greydanus’ article, your podcast, Word on Fire’s “Popcorn with the Pope”, etc. Do you know if the primary source (ie, the pamphlet or booklet that was sent by the Vatican in 1995 that originally contained this list) is available anywhere online? The secondary sources I’ve looked at sometimes seem to quote from this original pamphlet, but I can’t find it anywhere. If they’re not online, are they accessible elsewhere?

@CatholicCulturePod 21 күн бұрын

That's awesome! Did you know Nathan lives in Vancouver? As to the original document, I got a file of it by email from the head of the Vatican Film Archive, who was also on the VFL committee. There's not much to it, it's just the list and three paragraphs which I read in our Vatican Film List finale episode. There's also the 100 Years of Cinema document put out alongside the VFL. Linked here: www.catholicculture.org/commentary/we-watched-whole-vatican-film-list/

@EdmondBecket Ай бұрын

This is a great review of one of my favourite movies! Thank you so much. Really enjoyed this and the format. 🙏🏻

@CatholicCulturePod Ай бұрын

Thank you!

@emabonasio Ай бұрын

Finally!

@DanielbenYishai Ай бұрын

One thought that hit me about the 3rd time that I watched the film is whether or not Jack O'Brien (JOB for short) is actually still alive. Is it possible that the entire film is Jack's "life passing before his eyes" at the moment of his death? God reaching out and showing Jack everything before Jack walks out onto the "shores of eternity" where he is reunited with his family. What is the issue with Jack's wife? Her manner is very "removed" from Jack. I kind of think that perhaps Jack cheated on her (see the extended version also). Maybe his married life is falling apart. I appreciate those scenes from before Jack was born. Malick at that point jumps from standard Christianity and into they Jewish mystical tradition where all the souls that will ever exist were created on the 6th Day of Creation and these souls are then stored in the heavenly Guf (like a warehouse). The tradition is that each soul is taught everything about God and then the angel that leads the soul from the storage to the point of birth, causes the soul to "forget" everything it had been taught - leaving behind that "God shaped hole" that we seek to fill. Beautiful scene of the underwater "bedroom" that the child swims out of to enter into the baby we see in the next shot. The Jewish tradition also somewhat influences that balance between Chesed (Grace typified by the mother) and Gevurah (severity typified by the father). Jack as a boy certainly has concupiscence to repent of, though the film doesn't come right and and hit us in the face with it. We see Jack watching the neighbor woman through her windows, a bit of lust as she washes her feet. He then sneaks into her house when he sees her leave. He looks into her underwear drawer, lays her slip on the bed and the scene is cut as he reaches to his undo his belt. Then he has to hide the stained garment. Bury it? Sink it in the river? Oh no! It floats! He goes home and his mother is waiting .... we feel as if his mother knows exactly what he did.... Possibly it is only the guilt of his own mind.

@CatholicCulturePod Ай бұрын

Great observations, thanks so much for your comments esp. the stuff making sense of the implications of the preexistence of souls, which indeed is not an orthodox Christian notion.

@DanielbenYishai Ай бұрын

@CatholicCulturePod I would also note that the Tree Of Life (Etz Chaim in Hebrew) is from Jewish mysticism regarding the 10 Divine Attributes. Somewhat triune in that the are arranged in 3 columns.