About Norwegian employers: "They want to have change, without changing." (9:01) What a great line!
Ай бұрын
Any Nordic employer? Finnish employers are not much different I'd say.
@andreacatalinafajardo9034Ай бұрын
Here in Germany is the same...... I think is an European phenomena, perhaps? I would be interested in digging in to look for data
Ай бұрын
@@andreacatalinafajardo9034 Germany is the same but another much different level. How great the difference is between the nordics and Germany differs of course depending on where you are in Germany. Since the rise of Neo Fascism it also more acceptable to show your xenophobia so that makes some xenophobic than they would be before. But the big difference is that German xenophobia is more direct and you will be called out for it most likely.
@themeltedchocolateАй бұрын
Nice to see a Norwegian who's being honest about the fact that polish people are discriminated against in Norway
@noway8563Ай бұрын
Yeah, the natives like being Norwegian, a big crime....
@Hansen710Ай бұрын
now we just need him to be onnest about the norwegian people that are treated the same way i am not going to take a job i will get underpaid in my own country and i have to take risks if i had not bought a house and i was making bitcoins at my home from solar i would no get anything to eat and i would be living on the streets this is not about culture or where you are from, they are also pushing some of their own away its moire about a lack of democracy but in the end they rather hire you then me, they know i might complain and they feel like assholes if they pay me bad and they rather put a risk on you then a person born in the country so you are less discriminated then some people born in the country are no need to feel special you have it good compared to some of our own
@themeltedchocolateАй бұрын
@Hansen710 I have to say I'm a little confused about your comment. It sounds like you're a problematic employee? If that's the case then of course they're gonna hire someone they think they're not going to have any problems with, nationality wouldn't matter in such situation
@GnosticAtheistАй бұрын
Dude, we all know it. Unless you have a "proper" Norwegian name you will struggle more. That said, having a Polish name will also help you in certain jobs, so its not entirely bad. For instance in seasonal jobs foreigners may be prefered because they are more likely to leave the country afterwards, reducing potential issues later on. But overall, not being an Ola Nordmann is a drawback. But I will admit that publically we are good at pretending in all of Scandinavia. Its not unique to us however...
@monstrumopanowuje2373Ай бұрын
You better believe that if you have a Polish name and you wanna work in construction you will be favored. There is discrimination everywhere. Poland does that very well too, if not much better. :)
@koalapainterАй бұрын
Your advice is absolute gold Ronald. We moved to Norway one year ago, and my wife constantly seeks a job. She may have applied for hundreds of engineering positions. Finally, she managed to have two face-to-face interviews last month and went well. They said that they would call her, but we are still waiting, and there is no callback. But we have still hope for 2025. God Jul. :)
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
🤞🤞🤞! Thanks for sharing with us. God jul to both of you
@mortanramseyАй бұрын
My experience as Indian ( punjabi ) is that I might have faced about 50-60% of what my friends faced ( not sure why but lets leave that). They ways to improve chances for jobs that worked as 1st generation immigrant with no relatives: 1. Norewegian language skills which sometimes I mention it in my summary (indirectly) 2. Have norwegian references. 3. I had a global NGO ( Data Science ) experience where members were from Europe and USA 4. Projects that do not show you skills but are in norwegian context. e.g. Instead of showing my ranks and scores in top 99 percentile I showed a simple project of fish swarm detection. Also if you have to upload a profile pic I would suggest having a norwegian background like Bryggen or some known landmarks. Tldr . Save some money and get referral from a Norwegian or someone who can vouch for you at senior position. This is hard but works quite well as I have seen with my friend circle.
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Thank you so much for making our video so much better through your story and advice. I think many who watch this video will find your comment very useful. We certainly do. God jul from Mads and Ronald
@J4ckCr0wАй бұрын
Or, like your Indian colleges, change your last and first name to Norwegian one without the picture,
@ErikOosterwalАй бұрын
Finding ways to make it easier to catch fish will always get you extra points with Norwegians. 🤔🤣
@xoscitancyАй бұрын
To Ronald and Mads, it needs to be mentioned that the study you’re referencing was actually looking at descendants of immigrants, not immigrants/expats. The applicants were either born in Norway or immigrated at age 6, and would therefore be primarily educated and socialized in Norway, suggesting discrimination is even more pervasive than you described.
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
It's true. And really a tragedy. Both for those affected and most of all for the business community. Most of the people who watch our channel are probably expats / others who are interested in Norway. That's why we tried to make it relevant to more people. Thank you for adding this relatively important point. We appreciate it.
@bolekbolkowski1118Ай бұрын
After 20 years in Norway as a foreigner worker. I know Norway need my skills. But I don't need Norway anymore.
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Sad. Thanks for sharing.
@bolekbolkowski1118Ай бұрын
@YOURWAY2NORWAY from my point of view its not sad. I'm happy. Of course I still have some friends there who I miss and think about them. But its not the end of the world. I can visit them sometime and we send some pictures or short videos sms et cetera.
@mirkaАй бұрын
@@bolekbolkowski1118 I understand you are Polish ?
@bolekbolkowski1118Ай бұрын
@@mirka tak przez te 20 lat mieszkalem troche w N a troche w PL Tak ze mialem kontakt z jednym i drugim krajem. Za kazdym razem jak przyjezdzalem do Polski widzialem cos nowego w Norwegii też. Raz bylo to na plus a raz na minus. Ale ostatnio w N raczej tylko na minus.
@utahdan231Ай бұрын
You’ve made enough money in Norway?
@DarkAinaeLАй бұрын
Jeg har bodd i Norge siden 2013, jeg kommer fra Polen og snakker og skriver norsk. I begynnelsen var det ikke lett, for markedet var i krise, og det var ikke arbeid for sveisere. Jeg sendte mange jobbsøknader, og da jeg endret polsk til norsk i CV-en min, fikk jeg faktisk svar fra bedriftene. Det var litt absurd, men jo før man innser det, jo bedre er det. For sånn er verden, det er ikke rettferdig. Barna mine er født her, og de har "riktige" navn. Det er mye å skrive om... Jeg elsker dette landet, det er fullt av absurditeter, men hvilket sted i verden er ikke det?
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Hehe, det er sant. Takk for at du deler med oss!
@carolinecordeliaАй бұрын
When I was in my 20's I applied for hundreds of jobs, I got to interview in just one for jobs in shops, and I applied for jobs in schools and kindergarten and it was not unusual to be one of 130 people that applied for the same job. I once got to an interview in a kindergarten, I was one of 4 that got to the interview. When I was going in to the interview there was this kid standing outside the door and he asked me who I was and what I was going to do there. I stopped and answered him that I was going to speak with the boss in the kindergarten and maybe begin to work there if they liked me. He was pleased with my answer and ran away. I had not noticed that the window in the room that the interview was going to be was open and that the people that was going to interview me actually heard my conversation with this kid. I was asked a lot of questions and one of them was if I knew everything about kids, and my answer took them by surprise as I said "No, the day I think I know everything about kids I will have to stop working with kids". I actually got the job based on the conversation with the kid outside and the answer about not knowing everything about kids. The other persons that had been there already had said that they off course knew everything about kids and they had not stopped to speak with any of the kids outside either, as this kid I had a conversation with was a curious little kid and had been there when the three other people had been there too and had asked them the same questions but they had not stoped, probably as they were nervous, whitch I for some reason was not. I worked there for the year the job was as it was a temporary job for a woman that had a baby and took her year of maternity leave. I had actually worked with her sibling in another kindergarden. I liked the job. I have a name that is very Norwegian, but I got the job because of qualifications not my name or looks. In all the kindergardens and scools I have worked there have been several persons with foreign background, only one of them was a problem to work with because they said yes to everything, and it was not always good for the kids. I was the one that spoke a lot with the foreign persons and got to know them well and became friends with them, I thought it was very interesting to hear about their country and learn how to make food from their country. I don't understand why people are so afraid of speaking with them. I actually had a fun time teasing them (in a friendly way) about some words they pronounced wrong and got a very different meaning, one of them became a naughty word instead of the good word and I had to tell the person and they thanked me for telling them and was also a little frustrated that no one else had told them. You can tease people from other countries to as long as it's just in a nice way. When they laugh and ask you to say it right and they clearly say it wrong and almost pee themselves from laughing it's just fun, not discrimination. You should off course know their sense of humour before teasing anyone, it's a difference between friendly teasing and bullying. We actually had a lot of fun about skin color as well, they had a lighter brown skin and mine is light pink, and they teased me for wanting to get a tan when they put on a long sleeve shirt and tried to stay away from the sun to not get a tan, we had a lot of fun, we off course also watched the kids always and could run a way mid sentence to help a kid, it's what you have to do. We always stood so we could see in opposite directions so we could keep an eye on all the kids. I really liked working as a kindergarten teacher, but unfortunately had to stop working due to health issues, I really miss all the fun and the kids that always was happy to see you, and I was happy to see them too and not two days were the same even though the routine was always the same. I think the people that hire people should take in more people to an interview and pick them from qualifications not their name or anything else, the only thing that they would had to have as an absolute demand is that they actually understand the language well enough to speak and that they can understand what you tell them. It doesn't matter if they don't speak fluently, but they will need to not get offended if they get correction of their pronunciation, like my earlier colleagues that had a fun time but also learned how to speak Norwegian fluently after a while. I always asked the foreign people to learn me how to pronounce their name correctly, they tried to do the same with mine but it was impossible for them so it had to be somewhere in between😊
@peterc.1618Ай бұрын
Can I tease you in a friendly way by pointing out that 'off course' means something different from 'of course' although neither is naughty.
@carolinecordeliaАй бұрын
@@peterc.1618You may point it out, but it is auto correct that is off course 😂. I think it's naughty to tease people, but the word may have a different meaning in English, so I call "lost in translation" 😅 My English grammar is not very good, but I bet you understood most of my mispellings and bad grammar, which was kind of my point about people working in Norway, but with a foreign background needs correction to learn, so thank you for telling me about my bad wending, "maybe I could use that in another episode" 😅 (quote from "the julekalender")
@peterc.1618Ай бұрын
@@carolinecordelia I don't usually comment on other posters' use of the English language but in view of what you said about foreigners in Norway, I couldn't resist commenting since you used 'off course' twice. 😀 I made no comment about the rest of your post and certainly understood what you were saying. Just one hint: When writing a long post, and I commend you for taking the trouble to do so, try splitting it into paragraphs which makes it easier to read. Merry Christmas!
@JaySingh-pf1xdАй бұрын
Thanks for being honest, you are the BEST..
@austinholmes6951Ай бұрын
Good to see you Ronald :) if you don't post before the 25th or the first, have a great christmas and new year. Great content as always!
@boxcar2847Ай бұрын
Always l laugh, I cry, I space each half matpakke whenever watching your old and new videos. Love you both Ron and Mads! May you bask in the beautiful lights this holiday season!
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Thanks for being awesome. Big hugs from us :):)
@Farlig69Ай бұрын
This is sooooo effing true, I'm a UK expat in Norway and racism is rife across the board, I can only imagine for how it is with people from further afar...... Someone I know born and brought up in Norway, 100% Norwegian mother but a father from the Baltics... Same for him, with his father's surname, never got a job, all applications dead ended, so he took his wife's surname and got a job immediately... Edited to add my wife knows several of your lowest tier people 2nd / 3rd generation, Doctors, that have changed their names to a Norwegian name to get a job, then once established, change their name back again...
@ErikOosterwalАй бұрын
The endless struggles of Dr. Thordradas Patelsen. 🤔😄
@LionheartSJZАй бұрын
That's unfortunate but that's the price you have to pay to keep your country and society functioning. Look at England, Germany, France, Sweden and how well it works for them, having imported a ton of people. Maybe Norway lacks in innovation and some doctors, but I can't walk on the streets of German cities without fearing for my life anymore AND our economy is and welfare systems are completely dysfunctional now.
@sophiacariad5870Ай бұрын
@@LionheartSJZI work for the NHS in England and we are all so incredibly grateful for our non native nurses, doctors and other staff. Without them, our NHS would fall apart. It must be so painful for you to be so incredibly ignorant but it’s most likely your stupidity that makes it so dangerous for you to be out on the streets of Germany
@LionheartSJZАй бұрын
@@sophiacariad5870 I can't speak for England since it's been years since I last was in London, but just looking at statistics of violent crime you'd have to be stupid or at least very naive not to worry or at least understand the point I'm trying to make. Why don't we address the real issue why healthcare systems experience such problems all over Europe? Maybe we should pay them more, so people actually want to do the job and don't have to work at the absolute limit of their physical and psychological capacities. Maybe it would be easier to ensure greater conditions and pay for healthcare workers if we hadn't imported a huge amount of people who use the system but never have and never will pay a single cent of taxes to support the systems they so readily use? I'm all for working visas for qualified workers but we have to be very, VERY selective in who we let into our countries.
@Farlig69Ай бұрын
@@ErikOosterwal 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Frank-es1yjАй бұрын
Not only Norway has this problem, also here in the Netherlands, and many other countries. It is a shame!!
@FVModsАй бұрын
The problem ends when employers realize most people aren't relatives to politicians of any country in the world, and so this means we are all different. Just being from and living in X country don't make us do evil things this country may do. It is pretty obvious that employers may look at people through lens of bureaucracy and treat them as if all lead the country and decide what it does, when in reality it's not so for the most part. Government, even a lot of times, culture, and people are two different entities.
Ай бұрын
Having the problem and the level on which you have the problem is a different IMHO.
@wrestlingterrier8366Ай бұрын
I always thought this issue is much softer (less of a problem) in the Netherlands, being a much more diverse and international country than Norway.
@noway8563Ай бұрын
It is not a problem, and it is not a shame. In the US the Indian hiring managers in software engineering hire only other Indians. In effect they eliminated all the Americans from the software engineering job market. So if the Indians do that in the US, what makes you think they would not do it in Netherlands or in Norway? Do you think in India they would hire any of us before hiring one of their own caste?
@okklidokkliАй бұрын
@@wrestlingterrier8366 Norway have one of the highest share immigrant population in Europe.
@marylloyd2342Ай бұрын
So pleased to see you. You had disappeared off my radar, although I have been a subscriber for a long time.
@Megacillin23Ай бұрын
I'm an expad living in norway and I had some trouble finding a job but got lucky and I am from western europe so I was sort of privilaged. I can verify that my colleagues and bosses were all very sceptical to hire a man from Iran the last time we were hiring and in the end he wasn't hired cause he was "too qualified" just to not let it show that they didn't want to risk the cultural differences. It's sad in my opinion to not let qualified people in due to fear and prejudice but go with people who have a familiar name and might not be qualified at all.
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Thanks for sharing your important story!
@luringen947Ай бұрын
@@YOURWAY2NORWAY du er klar over at det er flere og flere ungdommer med riktig navn som havner utenfor arbeidslivet og som ikke får hjelp i det hele tatt. Mens politikere og andre maser om at det er forlate arbeidskraft i Norge! Lag ein video om det, nei det gjør du aldrig fordi det er ikke like populært til og med diskriminerende ovenfor invandrere ikke sant?! Du er ein uærlig liten råtte!
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Takk for at du deler dine meninger med oss. Godt å få motstand også. I tillegg er jeg faktisk født i rottas år, så du er ikke helt på jordet der ;)
@jukthewise8776Ай бұрын
Thanks for posting! Both informative and entertaining! Merry Christmas, Mads and Ron!
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Same to you!
@kriss12loverapАй бұрын
You Are a Norwegian gem, nobody Else does this
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Your comment means a lot to us. Thanks!
@peterwilson5528Ай бұрын
In Finland, one of the higher education institutions, was admitting it selected the applicants by their surname if it was Finnish. My wife is a Finnish Swede. She was selected for a course by TE-Toimisto(employment office) She went to the invitation sat there amongst all the foreign people. The interviewer asked her how good can you speak Finnish. So she answered in fluent Finnish it is native she replied, and I am fluent in Swedish, English and have studied German and French. She had been chosen by her married name being foreign by the racist programmed TE-Toimisto computer. So it is not just Norway. Now the new right-wing fascist government in Finland is bringing in all kinds of new laws that openly discriminate against foreigners. Residence permits are now requiring immigrants to earn more than, 1600EUR per month or permits are refused. So the hardest working, lowest paid vulnerable refugees will be targetted .The new Finnish government is also targetting its own retired citizens abroad by denying them their Finnish pensions they worked for if they live abroad. Totally scandalous and against the EU laws.
@mahmoudzidan9029Ай бұрын
I'm a muslim man from Egypt living in Norway, and sadly I've experienced this more times than I can remember. It's really sad to see how we, as humans, dehumanize each other all the time. I really appreciate your videos, you really describe living in Norway from an insider perspective that's more realistic and true compared to other creators on KZbin. But more importantly, you also opened my eyes to the dark sides of Norway as a state by talking about the Sami. Appreciate the hard work 🙌
@noway8563Ай бұрын
If a Christian European moves to Egypt, do you think he will get a job before a native Muslim Egyptian?
@alhyak280Ай бұрын
@@noway8563 this prespective also has some validity! - it's just who needs the other the most, and anything comes with upsides and downsides
@yminyruАй бұрын
How terrible it must be for you! I wonder if it might be easier or more challenging in Egypt.
@sophiacariad5870Ай бұрын
@@yminyruinteresting perspective, tell me, are you discriminated against more for your racism and bigotry or for the fact that you are just really stupid?
@mo-kq8koАй бұрын
@@noway8563 If she/he knows the Arabic at a professional level, then yes. You don't really have to bring religion up because that's not the case, whether you want it or not. I know several Euro expats operating in Egypt and they're even more prized than locals since they went to more prestigious universities or speak more languages.
@sherilynlum-alarcon5007Ай бұрын
Good to see you Ronald and hearing you Mads
Ай бұрын
Good that my parents gave me a nordic first name as a German xD EDIT: I like that you are open about discrimination, this is something that Finns have really have trouble admitting.
@themeltedchocolateАй бұрын
In my experience all Scandinavians have huge trouble admitting it which is why this channel is such a breath of fresh air!
Ай бұрын
@@themeltedchocolate Might be I only lived in Finland so far. For Finland the problem is related to the blind trust in authorities. Also I noticed people don't like to talk about politics as openly as elsewhere.
@themeltedchocolateАй бұрын
Yup that's how it works over there. People don't talk about a lot of things as to appear tolerant etc but their actions such as the ones described in the video show their discrimination more than their words do
Ай бұрын
@@themeltedchocolate Well they do talk abut blame something else instead, like it's your fault that you are so loud.
@okklidokkliАй бұрын
@@themeltedchocolate You find just as much discrimination in other countries. Where do you live if I may ask?
@BelaMadeiraАй бұрын
No idea why this appeared on my recommended, however am glad it did as it was quite entertaining/informative, thank you. 😄
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for sharing :):)
@tlunde53Ай бұрын
During my first visit to Norway in 1984, there was discussion about what Norway will do when the oil is depleted. Now, at the end of 2024, there are still no answers. Norway needs a new perspective or there will be many social and economic issues after the oil is depleted. It's not healthy or advisable for a country to rely on one industry.
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Haha, very revealing. Thanks for sharing
@miss104Ай бұрын
in canada, teachers used to just assign english names or suggest english sounding nick names if your name was foreign and hard to pronounce, even 10 years ago, though i imagine this is much less common now! i know many people that have kept these names and use them with friends/family/coworkers, very common here even if it's not their "legal name"
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Interesting story. Thanks for sharing:)
@ankavoskuilen1725Ай бұрын
I think it is odd that people always try to solve problems with words. When you as an Asian have an English name and you have an interview, they see immediately that you are not from the UK.
@webefabАй бұрын
Ok that's probably regional or a load of BS because I'm Gen X and this NEVER happened. I'm also from a rather small town and teachers never changed people's names. Your city/village were racist AF sounds like.
@miss104Ай бұрын
@@webefab this was in the burbs around toronto. it was well intended, but yes, racist. it was pretty common for teachers to ask or assign english names in in grade 1, 2, etc., at the time it was treated more like 'hey can i give you this nick name', but they were straight up just english names in retrospect. and what child is going to say no to the teacher at that age
@dekka213lАй бұрын
I love this guy!!!!
@r8chllettersАй бұрын
I totally get it! Each country has its social cultural traditions and habits.
@HippieCaviarАй бұрын
Finally someone that really point on the wound of Norwegian society, people think that there’s no discrimination here and it’s all glory and happiness but it’s not like that at all! So thanks for this kind of videos and keep on making more of this! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@Eric-of5exАй бұрын
All countries have discrimination against foreigners..human nature.
@LED4allАй бұрын
Stå på du, du gjør mye bra i disse videoene!
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Takk. Og selv takk for at du følger med :)
@andreasmartin9296Ай бұрын
At my workplace, we always check first whether an application is real or fake. So, you wouldn't have received a response from us- not because of the name, but because we don't respond to fake applications.
@kesmarnАй бұрын
What seems to my "untrained" eye to be the case is that many, many countries in the world are very willing to open their employment doors to people from virtually any country as long as the potential job applicant can speak the employer's language reasonably well.(or at least is willing to humbly apologize for any occasional lapses in that department), and as long as the applicant is skilled, kindly and willing to take care of elderly, and or chronically ill people for long hours at low pay... 19 hours/day, seven days a week. You also might be able to find a position caring for very badly behaved children, as long as you don't expect to have any days off --- ever. And as long as you're completely okay with "free meals" that involve the consumption of pounds and pounds of peanut butter and/or sugary cereals at the same table and time as Junior dines.Oh... and it helps if you're able to teach the little darlings French and Algebra as well. Easily worth another fifty cents per day!
@fistofthenorthstar3155Ай бұрын
I have completely different experiences. My name is entirely Balkan-Slavic and difficult for Norwegians to pronounce. I got my first job after my third job interview. I didn’t have to send hundreds of CVs. I sent maybe around 10. I found my second job by talking to a Norwegian who owned a company that collaborated with our firm. I got my third job simply by sending a CV because the position seemed interesting. And then I found my next job using the same logic-I saw a position, sent my CV to check the conditions. They called me, the conditions were better, and I switched to work for them. I’ve noticed that Norwegians value relaxation and flexibility, and when you're on the same wavelength with them when it comes to jokes. That opens doors for jobs more than any degree or qualification. Hollywood movies, parodies, sexual and dark humor, western music, crime series, books, football, the Premier League, etc.-if you have no interest in these, it’s hard to fit in with Norwegians.
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Thanks for sharing your insight and advices. Very interesting to read. We appreciate it!
@JizyaDhimmi16 күн бұрын
I've not been in a position to hire people or review applications but I have been a team leader talking those who have. Let's put it like this: they go by experience. If several workers from a group of people have set you in bad light, the employer will prefer someone else. What my employer basically said is that she has the impression of Eastern-Europeans to be hard-working and moderately agreeable. For what it is worth, she also said it was always a risk to employ 40 year old Norwegian females because of their tendencies to sick leave. The takeaway I'm trying to serve here is: people take this way too personal when in fact it is simply just a perimeter consideration in the CAD drawing of the business management.
@BeliaLastesАй бұрын
Is this the same thing in Svalbard as far as Jobs go?
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Svalbard is a much more International community, not owned, only governed by Norway. And its easier for foreigners to work there. Since more ppl from all over the world
@bolekbolkowski1118Ай бұрын
Popatrzmy na to z odwrotnej strony. Zależy kogo szukamy i na jakie stanowisko. Ale np. jako właściciel restauracji na stanowisko kucharza szukalbym kogos z Meksyku lub z Tajlandii. Bez wzgledu na to czy był by to mezczyzna czy kobieta wiem że mialbym najwieksze szanse znalezc kogos odpowiedniego. W drugiej kolejnosci byli by Grecy I inni z poludniowej Europy. Norwegowie i Anglicy. Byliby na ostatnim miejscu. Nie bez powodu trudno znalezc norweska i angielską restaurację. Nawet w Norwegi i Anglii.
@mirkaАй бұрын
to samo pomyslalam, to nie jest dyskryminacja tylko zdrowe myslenie, pracodawca szuka najlepszego pracownika,
@SaltyGuavaАй бұрын
I suppose it is common sense that an English or Norwegian person lacks a discerning palate and therefore can not be trained in the culinary arts. As a Mexican who does not cook. I'm grateful for the job security since Norwegians know nothing about good food. That's just common sense.
@ronnapilayo7265Ай бұрын
Both of you are so crazy funny!!! 😂😂😂 Ronald you look good in blue! 😊
@webefabАй бұрын
Yes he does, very striking!🎉
@hb_skogen162721 күн бұрын
Digger innholdet, har sett på filmene deres lenge. Bra greier!
@YOURWAY2NORWAY21 күн бұрын
Kult å høre! Vi setter stor pris på at du følger med. Ronald & Mads
@professordianaskoleАй бұрын
Subscribed! Super interesting! I’m hoping to do a one year PhD student exchange in about 2 years, and the university I’m applying to says they’re going to help make sure I’m up to speed on Norwegian first. I’m using the Norwegian spelling of my last name here, so hopefully the English spelling is recognized. I originally wanted to do the PhD entirely in Norway, but I had trouble getting anyone to answer me, even with sending the emails from my Arizona State University email (which is why I clicked on this video, to see if I could find any clues on the callback rate for higher education).
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Norwegians have a big politeness problem when it comes to giving people an answer - no matter what you search for. The fact that you haven't gotten an answer is embarrassing. Cool that you don't give up. Thank you for sharing and subscribing. We appreciate it. Merry Christmas and welcome to Norway and our channel :):)
@tanyah.9131Ай бұрын
Your ai pictures are hilarious 😆 I have Norwegian heritage on my dad's side so my last name is Norwegian.. but im a woman and middle aged so that would lower the chances of a call back!
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Thanks for noticing. We have fun making them. Hehe, with a Norwegian surname you'll get far in Norway anyway. Welcome home soon. God jul!
@drezhbАй бұрын
@@YOURWAY2NORWAY Just a friendly suggestion to put "AI generated" somewhere on the pictures.
@marylaplante7261Ай бұрын
I am so happy to see you guys address this issue. I've worked in Norway for several years and only been interviewed/hired by others with an immigrant background. Curious if you have thoughts on casual racism in the media and everyday language? for example, something too brash is "Amerikansk", chaos is "helt Texas", violent places are "Chicago", high crime areas are "Swedish", etc...
@gerberjoanne266Ай бұрын
What about Jews? Whether local or from Israel or from Western Europe/USA?
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Like all religions. Should not mention it..
@erikgstewartАй бұрын
Unfortunately most have chosen to hide their background now to avoid issues. I think this is terrible, an echo of the 30's. I'm not Jewish, but have started supporting the Jewish community in Oslo.
@worldlover6073Ай бұрын
YOUR VIDEOS ARE VERY INFORMATIVE AND TO THE POINT . THEY PROVIDE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS .
@kesmarnАй бұрын
At the same time that they're very funny!
@marcothebarber764Ай бұрын
Hello, I'm Portuguese for a long time , I'm interested in Norway. And what about the Portuguese? Because many Latin Americans have Portuguese, Spanish and Italian names.
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Ola, tudo bem. I understand that it can seem confusing with Western Europe versus Latin America. But right now there are a lot of Portuguese and Spaniards getting jobs in Norway. That you are part of the EU is most important. Everything becomes easier for employers. Before Covid, it was the Swedes who had those jobs. But they went home. Then you came. And we couldn't have done without you!
@marcothebarber764Ай бұрын
@@YOURWAY2NORWAY Thankyou
@dougabbott8261Ай бұрын
Merry Christmas to you guys !!!! Good to hear from you. Low birth rate???? $69 question has to be WHY !!!! I would think people would be having large families with all the great Norwegian social benefits. All the best , and all that is holding me back from immigrating is qualifications and age , other than that it is a go.
@drezhbАй бұрын
What if you have an English name you wanna go by at work but you don't want the hassle of the legal name change? Is it ok if your documents have a different name after they decide to hire you?
@Boozneos-h2x15 күн бұрын
You talked about the division of Western Europe and Eastern Europe. What about southern Europe and Northern Europe, how are the odds there? Do they also make distinctions between eg german, Dutch and Belgian and the group of Italians Spanish and Greeks?
@HelgaksHeadАй бұрын
All I care about is qualifications. In the US Noone cares about name but once you get the job, you only get up the hierarchy based on your boss' background.
@greenjeanbrownАй бұрын
Unfortunately, this isn't true about the US. They have done numerous studies about names and job interviews. Those with names that appeared to be minority people were often discarded, even with the same or better qualifications. We do have problems with this.
@edennis8578Ай бұрын
That isn't true. In the US, if you're a minority, you have a better chance of getting a job in government or woke companies. Companies who want qualifications most will look askance at people with unusual names because they want employees, not activists.
There's a study from the US that just came out in which Brad and Greg competed against Darnell and Lamar, and Amanda competed with Latoya. Guess which ones got the callbacks?
@JizyaDhimmi16 күн бұрын
Comparing the used-to-be duocultural US (European newsettlers and slaves) with primarily monoethnic Norway isn't really an apt comparison. Makes as much sense as comparing name hiring practices based on statistics from all of Montana to downtown Minneapolis.
@happysolitudetvАй бұрын
I think this is most common in Nordic countries. In Finland they discriminate against Gypsies. They take note of your surname.
@yminyruАй бұрын
How interesting! I had learned in school that every country discriminates against Gypsies. I once met a woman from Romania who told me that she fled from there because she was treated poorly for being a gypsy. So odd!
@happysolitudetvАй бұрын
Actually I only recently discovered that there are Gypsies in Finland too, even in Sweden. Never thought they reached that far and to think those countries can be subtly xenophobic @@yminyru
@lucrtrvlАй бұрын
Good for Norway. Respect and help your own people first.
@bryce_millerАй бұрын
The people who think this is fine are the same people who accuse immigrants of not working.
@AnaHebeАй бұрын
What a nice video! Made with humor and honesty! Thank you very much!!
@davidbrims5825Ай бұрын
What’s wrong with Norwegians favouring their own Norwegian people in jobs ?
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
There's nothing necessarily wrong with that. Except that we don't have enough people with the right skills. So we depend on people coming to Norway to work. Whether we like it or not.
@Sunshine-un5wwАй бұрын
Yea when they mess up your operation and you find it out well hey was he the best ? No but of all the doctors he was ethnically Norwegian.
@rustyspottedcat8885Ай бұрын
You cant give the sport medal to someone you happen to know or blow ... except ! ... if you explicitly say so publicly in your job offer ... otherwise it is corruption.
@webefabАй бұрын
You obviously don't understand the assignment....go back and watch the video actually listen and try again
@davidbrims5825Ай бұрын
@@YOURWAY2NORWAY Globalist propaganda, that’s the sales pitch for mass immigration. In Japan they educate and train their own people to fill their own jobs instead of importing Africans.
@Fozzz15Ай бұрын
Awesome video. Great insights on a funny note. I'm from Netherlands and thinking about working in Norway so I'm glad I probably have decent chances :)
@berzins42Ай бұрын
It depends on what job. I am expert car mechanic and when I apply I always get invite to interview and 80% time I get offer.
@sophiacariad5870Ай бұрын
Given that Norway has one of the largest public sectors in the world, is there a difference in the discrimination for workers in the public vs. private sectors? I live and work in the public sector in the UK (NHS) and much as some people and even political parties would like it to be otherwise, our health service would literally collapse if we discriminated against candidates on the basis of race, religion or name.
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Yes there is. We have the same situation in our health care. Totally depending on all sorts of foreigners. Many of them with much more respect for older patients. And we are not getting younger either ;) Totally agree with you absc
@peterc.1618Ай бұрын
There isn't much room for discrimination when a hospital with, say, three nursing vacancies only get one, two, or three applicants. When politicians say that they need to be well paid in order to attract the best people into politics, I always think it would be interesting to see that principle applied to hospital staff, i.e. keep increasing the salaries until every vacancy is filled with qualified and highly skilled people.
@HelloMartians4 күн бұрын
I just watched the video about the Sea Sami. I would love you to make a video about the Sami situation right now. If you decide it's a good idea to make it, I would like to know if it's ok to visit them and how to support their Cultural Survival. Thanks!
@yminyruАй бұрын
How dare people prefer working with people who share their language, values, and culture.
@peterc.1618Ай бұрын
Outrageous!
@Not-ApАй бұрын
I'm curious exactly how much integration do Norwegians want their immigrants to have? You guys sound like old America to me. You want them to have Norwegian names, speak fluent norwegian, know norwegian social norms inside and out, or maybe even be Lutheran or Heathen... idk 🤷♂️. Actually there is another country that demands all that as well still around.. Japan! Except like Norway their not popping out enough kids and will eventually become a shell of their formerselves. Kinda ironic.. to love your culture and people so much... but not want to reproduce them enough to continue the society 😂.
@JizyaDhimmi16 күн бұрын
_"Diversity is our Strength"_ @__@
@MasterChicken81Ай бұрын
I honestly never felt welcomed by any Norwegian colleagues...I always get along with other countries from the rest of the world....except people from Poland 😅
@heyRexАй бұрын
If a man spends his entire life building a house, roads, and infrastructure why should he not be able to give it to his sons instead of somebody that just arrived from a far away land?
@PeterLipcseiАй бұрын
Nice to see that someone is not afraid to talk about the reality, not some PC bullshit. In order to change first you need to face the reality. It's definetely not a Norwegian problem.
@sophiacariad5870Ай бұрын
Yeah, you really didn’t “get” the video did you? 😂
@PeterLipcseiАй бұрын
@@sophiacariad5870 Feel free to enlighten me, I'm not shying away to learn. I have several years of experience as hiring manager at an international corporation, been hiring people from all over the world. In every job market there is bias, sexism, racism etc. If you ignore it, you cannot be a successful candidate or hiring manager. But maybe I'm missing something which is special to Norway (never worked there, just visiting).
@gerberjoanne266Ай бұрын
Sorry for so many comments, but what about the Sami? Or is there an affirmative-action type program to promote their hiring?
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Many Sami people, like me have a Norwegian sounding name. But I would not mention my background. If it was not related to the job. Love your engagement :)
@LinneaBurasАй бұрын
I’m second generation Norwegian American. I spent a lot of time in Norway back in the 80’s. The things that you talk about here are nothing new. These issues exist in certain ares of the US too., but not in the big cities. Ethnocentrism is basic to almost all cultures. Their going to agree with you on this over there unless you disrupt to tourist industry. I’m amused by your videos. Unfortunately I can’t share them with my relatives over there.
@jilledmondson6894Ай бұрын
My grandfather came to uth USA from Norway about1900 and settled in northern Minnesota. 124 years later my relatives in Minnesota are very much like Norwegians of today. They want change but not so they can see the change.
@ankavoskuilen1725Ай бұрын
Change in itself means nothing. It can be good or bad.
@Maxშემიწყალე14 күн бұрын
Humans are not replaceable economical factory units. Team cohesiveness, trustworthiness, and shared language are important. This list makes absolute since if you've been on a teams they could not communicate due to several barriers such as culture, language, and trust. I work in IT and I would know. Once an Indian gets into a position of power he only hires other Indians. Sorry but I will not apologize for liking the list as it is.
@alanatolstad4824Ай бұрын
I would imagine it's the same way in my home state of North Dakota, a bit isolated and out of touch. Of course, anyone from the Dakotas or Minnesota would likely disagree with me, but going back for summer vacations (I now live in California, and lived in New Mexico for a long time as well), northerners take a while to warm up to strangers.
@vins1979Ай бұрын
I don't know how people in the USA feel towards North Dakota. The point is, however, that in a European context, Norway and other Nordic countries have managed to advertise themselves as open minded, inclusive, and forward looking, while they are often more closed minded than many other European countries with a 'worse' reputation.
@okklidokkliАй бұрын
@@vins1979 Not at all.
@yminyruАй бұрын
Oh my! It appears the advertisements of open mindedness and inclusivity were based on lies! I wonder if it was only a certain small percentage of the country that pushed that false idea. Thank goodness the word is getting out that it is not friendly to outsiders!
@Sunshine-un5wwАй бұрын
Midwesterner here. Yeah but we also value hard-work and giving people a chance also we really value community still. Just went to my church’s pot luck supper. And then we had another thank you pot luck for the Volunteer’s of the animal shelters network here who do so much to get these wonderful creatures ready for a home and care for them endlessly . Also midwesterners will give you the shirt off your back if you’re in trouble.
@Sunshine-un5wwАй бұрын
@@vins1979they are open minded towards other scandi folks lol.
@pamelaislam676Ай бұрын
Where have you been? Nice to see you again.
@emmy2322Ай бұрын
thank you for this, it makes me feel a bit better about myself. I am German with a Polish name, highly educated, living with my Norwegian partner and our 2 children in Norway now and cannot find a job for over a year now. I learnt the language to the B2 level and I speak and write it fluently. I sent over 100 applications and everyone around me tells me, that I have to take on the name of my partner, otherwise there is no chance for me and frankly - after watching this - i will just do it. Meanwhile, my partner works here in a very well paid job in the public sector telling me, what idiotic, non-qualified Norwegians work there, who cannot get anything done on time and the municipalitiy is even hiring external agencies to help these idiots to get their job done, since you cannot fire them, due to the strong workers rights for the public sector. Which I think is good, but still, incomptent people should not just stay in a public institution like that and waste tax money. This is embarrassing for Norway and often I feel bitter about being jobless, since I have a lot of experience, education and I am highly motivated, but even getting an interview is a super rare occassion. I am desperate.
@youknow6968Ай бұрын
Around 20 years ago, I've met friends Norwegian cousins on a visit to UK, Pakistani background. I was surprised by the fact they spoke in Norwegian amongst themselves even with their parents rather than Urdu which is our mother tongue. It was interesting, I always imagined Norwegian society is very integrated, so I'm a little surprised.
@bolekbolkowski1118Ай бұрын
Jako kierowca minicaba często pracowałem na nocnej zmianie i rozwozilem np. pracownikow hotelu Groosvenoor do domów. Bo konczyli oni pracę, kiedy metro bylo już nie czynne. Nie mialem wplywu na to kto wsiadzie do mojego samochodu. A byli to ludzie z przeroznych krajow. Tacy najlepsi pasażerowie, przy których się relaksowalem. Z ktorymi zawsze milo się gadało to zdecydowanie latino. Zarowno ci z poludniowej Europy jak i Ameryki Południowej. Inni byli po prostu ok. Byla tez grupa pasazerow z krajow na poludnie od Europy ktorzy czesto mieli pretensję o cokolwiek. Ale na szczescie nie zdarzalo sie to często. Oprócz pochodzenia geograficznego podzielilbym pasazerow na grupy ze wzgledu na wiek. Najmilsi byli ci 60 lat i wiecej. Zawsze spokojni i nigdy się nie spieszyli. 25-30 lat wyluzowani. Najgorsza grupa to 35-55 lat. Oni nawet nie spojrzeli mi w oczy. Przez caly czas rozmawiali przez telefon. A wypowiadając nie mieli czasu zamknac drzwi. Bylo to co prawda w Londynie. Ale tam jest chyba najbardziej mieszane towarzystwo jakie widziałem.
@mirkaАй бұрын
pracodawca szuka najbardziej efektywnego pracownika, latynosi moga byc mili, ale pracuja wg zasady "manana".
@bolekbolkowski1118Ай бұрын
@@mirka Wiem ze tu troche odbieglem od tematu. Ale chcialem podkreslic, ze latynosi to bardzo fajni ludzie. To byla przewaznie godzina 1am lub 2am. Każdy jest wtedy zmęczony i chce żeby jak najszybciej zawieźć go do domu. A oni nigdy nie narzekali ze trzeba jeszcze na kogoś poczekać. Rozmowa z nimi to byl dla mnie relaks. Ja przy nich odpoczywalem.
@darcy8088Ай бұрын
British expat with a Norwegian name here (thanks to marriage). Definitely hasn't given me any advantages (yet?). The main issue is the language barrier (most employers want B2 level) and also the fact that most jobs aren't even advertised - and those that are probably already have a hire in mind. Building a network here is so important, but that also has its challenges! NAV and employment agencies are also comparatively useless here - or maybe that's again due to the language barriers and general discrimination against expats.
@LilianaBBruno13 күн бұрын
Hello. Brazil here! 🇧🇷I looked for any comments here that came from Brazil, which is my country. I really wanted to work in Norway, because of all the good things we hear about there, but now I'm afraid. My initial idea is to work at a college as a professor in the area of Psychology, Neuro, etc. Could you give me more information about this position for foreigners? I have Italian descent, on my father's side, but distantly, if I obtained Italian or Portuguese citizenship would I have better chances? My full name is: Liliana Barbosa Bruno
@bonnitaclaus2286Ай бұрын
That’s all right, I’m Swedish anyway. DNA a little over 1/3 Swedish. I’m only about 7% +/- Norwegian. I have quite a bit of German….. but apparently my German ancestors are actually Swiss. Because most of them are from the area near Switzerla. And then I have just a peppering of a few other nationalities. My mother is a Swiss German side … and where the Italian Alps come in and a few other nationalities in that area. My dad side has less variety. Finland, Swedish and Norwegian… there is also an English component no idea how that happened.
@clasqmАй бұрын
Well, when a Swedish girl and an English sailor really like one another ...
@gabritravassos18 күн бұрын
I'm 2 years searching for a job and that's no chance for me. Its really frustrating and for sure I will never change my name to get a job. That's way too much.
@danilotetesi71259 күн бұрын
How are perceived Italians in Norway?
@crackmaquina8731Ай бұрын
I really dont know where to incluse myself as a spaniard... Cause my name sounds pretty Latin, but im theorically souther western european... where to include spanish, italian and greek people?😅
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Before covid, many Swedes worked here. We depended on them. Then they left. Then people from Spain came here. So you're in. Group West
@crackmaquina8731Ай бұрын
@@YOURWAY2NORWAY i expected that... Not the same in E.E.U.U... they consider us latinoamerican, maybe because they dont even know a single place outside his little White gardened House surrounded by crocodiles and bears.
@JizyaDhimmi16 күн бұрын
What about Spain, Italy or Greece?
@eternaloptimist770129 күн бұрын
What about age?
@pawtleopardАй бұрын
Very fun! Love else ing about other cultures but specifically the specifics!
@Khaine011Ай бұрын
This is just sounds like a list based on likelihood they have good relevant language skills
@lynetteray2146Ай бұрын
I have to admit. I've been SUPER LUCKY with jobs in my life. Even at 67, I have a full-time job. I have to say that I am 1/4 Norwegian and 3/4 Irish. I am super white with a shocking tuft of white Norwegian hair! I have an MA from a very good school and I've worked for some very powerful firms. I interview well. I have been very lucky.
@draconar666Ай бұрын
You forgot to say the magic sentence "I'm a native English speaker". That still open doors.
@pcwi1Ай бұрын
I like your honesty, respect!
@CassieDavis613Ай бұрын
Thank you. I enjoy reading the engagement.
@aurelianobuenrostro5940Ай бұрын
Thank you for your new video, I've been waiting for it, best regards from Mexico, I hope you make more videos. Bye.
@andrejka_talking_out_loudАй бұрын
I experienced this much of my life in the USA though I was born here... I think my name scares people off.. also employers want to hire wealthy people that don't need the salary... and also there are not really good jobs out there that are advertised... everything seems to be hidden and jobs are given to friends and family?
@jk284169 күн бұрын
Ironically In the UK we class Eastern Europeans and Norwegians in the same category. The category of equality.
@largedoglover99Ай бұрын
❤❤ I love you both and also your videos 😂. I’m an atheist so I don’t believe in any cult.
@Kim-J312Ай бұрын
I think I might make the cut 😂 Im a very tall blonde 👱♀️ with blue eyes 😂. Im an American with very American ( actually its Welsh) last name- Jones. Whenever I've been to Europe, people would ask me if Im a Swede or Norwegian??, mostly men ,ha . I always smile and speak English back to them. My heritage is half Welsh and Czech and German.
@maxrichter6164Ай бұрын
Jeg er tysk og jeg heter Max. Vad betyder det i Norge?
@erikgstewartАй бұрын
Auf norwegisch wäre das Mads.
@scarletshield009Ай бұрын
Explain the name Ronald in Norwegian?
@ScottAbgekurtzАй бұрын
Employment discrimination against non-Swedish people is absolutely rampant. Basically, if you don’t have a Swedish name they throw your application into the trash can.
@mista623Ай бұрын
What about mentioning where you live? If I mention my Eastern European country on the CV, but using a Norwegian name, isn't it the same? Should the location be omitted?
@osheenkelana19 күн бұрын
As a Southeast Asian man, I wonder whether the following situation would work. Since Southeast Asian women are preferred to the men in the job hiring process, should I be disguising myself as a woman by using a woman's name in the interview, wearing a wig, dressing up like a woman and work on my higher pitch voice just to get the job? What if I decide to dress up my usual self as a man right after getting the job? Would I then get fired from my job?
@HiKasandraАй бұрын
This is a very interesting video. 😂😂😊😊 I don't feel strongly angry about a society wanting to hire their 'own'. It is just human perception. I am non-'white' if we are going by colour scheme and am not saying if it is right or what. Was listening to this African French lady who used to be an actress on French TV and she said that she was only given roles where she was a gangster and.was given the role of spitting on others. Naturally over time, people have the perception that certain races are such and such. For example, a couple of years ago, this English professor with a Korean wife. Their video went viral and the wife was thought to be the babysitter coz she is Asian. Even in news articles and clips, for gig economies jobs advert, u get an Asian model often and maybe for other industries like delivery, u get an Indian model. It is just media and perceptions. Very light-hearted interesting video. Thanks and have a koseligt Christmas both of you. 😊😊😊😊 XO
@oskarvomhimmel6936Ай бұрын
BRO!!! You are still around!!!...GIRLS MAN!!! Show US THEM GIRLS!!!...Good to see your channel is still around... ❤️✝️❤️💪🏼
@1matheusАй бұрын
Great content! My name is Matheus Gunnar, should I use Gunnar then?
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Yes. Best Mads 😊
@rhythmandacousticsАй бұрын
I'm not surprised. Actually, normal behavior that similarity bias exists. Event in USA and Canada if the occupation is in demand , you go to employ the whites first then the colored people, even if the other candidates are better. But in some industries the ones that really get employed are the cheapest ones. Since Norway and other countries have high unionization rates then they need to rely on race because everyone is paid more or less the same.
@MILESTONEENGLISHCOURSEАй бұрын
I think I will start applying to jobs as Ola Nordmann
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
excellent choice ;)
@peliculanoАй бұрын
I lived in Norway for many years, have an education and work experience but never got a call back. The only job I got was at a hotel collecting dirty dishes where the hotel guests were so rude and racist.( btw it was a french guy who hired me) I got another job at a clothing store because a friend of mine recommended me. Anyway, I did the name change thing, because my partner is Norwegian, but that didn’t help either because my first last name is from Latin America. Luckily I left Norway many years ago and I live happily in Australia with a great job. I wouldn’t go back to Norway.
@KJensenStudioАй бұрын
Hiya, Boys! Happy (it could happen) Christmas to you. 🎄 Is there a prejudice in Norway against Danes, based on the former occupation? Erm...asking for a friend. 😄
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Not at all. Danish is within. The only thing is the language we like to make fun of. But, most Danes does have very posh Norwegian names, don't they? Best Mads
@robertmcglinchey3347Ай бұрын
If you have friends or family in the place that you’re applying - you have much more chances of success. Also this may be different for the five or six levels (world region) you talked about In the US do you at least try to have at least one connection that can help you out.
@jjbud3124Ай бұрын
Interesting. I wonder about people from the US who have "foreign" names. We have people of every nationality. For instance, my family has a Polish surname. My neighbor has a Spanish surname. Would that be ignored if the birthplace was the US? Or you could apply the same question to any country.
@cesarbravo6697Ай бұрын
What about southern Europeans? What employes do Norwegians prefer Russians or Italians? I guess that we Spaniards are in the same list with the Latin Americans
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
Right now there are a lot of Spanish, Italian and Greek people working in Norway. We are so connected to the EU and most Norwegians go on holiday every year to these three countries. So you belong to the West. Spanish is the most popular language among young Norwegians in addition to English. It is a new development. Before it was French and German.
@tomodomo1000Ай бұрын
Its called the spoiled culture effect. When there is too much money and success, people become less emphatic and empty inside. No experience is stopping personal development. Same like Arabic countries, China, South Korea.
@sakukullberg2697Ай бұрын
Was Finland part of western or eastern europe in the study?
@webefabАй бұрын
Nordic!
@YOURWAY2NORWAYАй бұрын
@sakukullberg2697That's an interesting question. Now you are the Nordics, almost like Norwegians/Swedes/Danish - but only if you/you speak Swedish I think. Sorry. If we have to communicate in English you end up with the rest of the west. 30 years ago you were maybe east.