Jobeky Trigger Review | 3 Spoke Dual Zone Drum Trigger by Jobeky Drums

[@65Drums]

I'm glad to see an in-depth review on this because I've been wondering about this multi arm center design. I'm still using a Jobeky side-mounted trigger which I like because it doesn't have that hotspotting problem. The old style bar trigger they made wasn't that amazing but I like the side mounted ones. I'll happily take the sacrifice of no positional sensing. By the way, your new filming background looks good!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

It's definitely a step up from the previous centre triggers I've seen from them in the past and is really solid. But I agree - I still mostly use side-mount triggers (except for the digital snare) because the hotspotting just throws things off too much and the positional sensing isn't as much of a big deal on toms. And thank you! Good job on the VH-14D / VH-13 comparison, btw. Watched it this morning!

[@conair1625]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop I'm also using the side-mounted ones for toms, Jobeky by the way, no hot-spots unless I hit the odd edge by accident. For snares there're better options out there: alesis pads, ATV, Roland digital, they all have multiple contact foams to mitigate the hot-spot issue.

[@mb-drums4689]

I use these triggers for my 14 and 16 inch toms with 3 ply mesheads. No real problems with hotspot in my experience

[@davidlombardi3146]

Exact same thing here but thank you for the in-depth review! I almost went with these but chose to go with their latest side mount to ensure I didn’t have hot spotting. Been very happy but I also have the Roland digital snare so best of all worlds 😁

[@thedrumdoctor]

@@mb-drums4689 Same here. I use one on a 14” Snare with a 3-ply head. With a TD-20 into Addictive Drums the hotspot was there, but more quite subtle really. In AD there’s a hotspot adjustment and it worked well. Now I’ve just moved to the eDRUMin interface and the calibration was a piece of cake. The instructions in the manual were clear about the hotspot control and it was easy to fine tune. I think the larger diameter shells and thicker heads really help suppress the centre trigger hotspot. It’s not eliminated, but the adjustments in software seem to work better.

[@ajmpatriot4899]

Excellent review. How fortunate we are to have such quality content creators! 👍

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thank you 🙏 glad you enjoyed it!

[@eDrumsInANutshell]

That's really true! Thank you, Luke!

[@semfor22]

Jobecky triggers and customer support are "Simply The Best" I have experienced.

[@johndef5075]

I just made a 14" snare with a Convertible Percussion trigger. Very happy with it. Supports positional sensing on my td10. Nice price too.

[@mikestein1024]

Thanks I was waiting for someone to do a review with these

[@yeahtuna]

One observation. I suspect you'll get better rim / rimshot separation if you mount that rim sensor to the underside of the trigger platform. Having it centrally located should give more consistent performance.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Don't know how I missed that you'd commented! Yeah, I'm gonna make a couple of tweaks to the trigger when I swap it into another drum. Will try the rim piezo underneath and also try it out with a proper cone that I have. Hoping for better results!

[@hl6142]

I got this trigger for the snare and a kick trigger last year. Hot spotting is a big problem but I managed to reduce it by using the R-Drums blue foam cone. This seems to be of a much higher quality than the Jobeky one and helps a lot. Also, I had to get a Roland KD 8 because I had a lot of problems with double triggering with the kick trigger and couldn't find the right settings. I'm using this with anTD17 and hve to say, that I'm not completely happy. But they are cheap and with some tweeking I got the snare to work fine

[@IsraelHiguera-o7z]

I know this is a very old thread, but this keeps coming to my mind and I can't find anything on it on the internet. Does the multi spoke design really adds something to the sensitivity of the trigger? is it better? are designs like this 3 spoke Jobeky, the 4 spoke version or the multi spoke R-Drums RTS really better because of the spokes construction?

[@mattdrewdrums]

I got a jobeky snare and it came with a 4 spoke center mounted trigger. Is there any way to move it to the side? Center mounted triggers on snares are dumb af. I literally only hit the center so the dynamics are way off, even when I mess with the trigger settings on my module.

[@baterizmo]

I have a few of their center mounted triggers and ended up moving them to the side, because of heavy hot spotting...other than that I'm pretty happy with Jobeky products. Great video, Luke...as usual

[@gpcr01bb84]

Can you move those center mounted triggers to the side ? Even with a 3 or 4 spoke model ?

[@baterizmo]

@@gpcr01bb84 you can, using a different mount.

[@gpcr01bb84]

@@baterizmo Great, thanks. So it means that you had to make your own mount ? Could you put a picture of how it looks like ?

[@massimoresnati]

Thanks for your video, really interesting. I'm about to convert one of my old acoustic drums into an e-drum, I'm looking for more effective solutions and techniques, I really like yours, what do you recommend for a 14 inc wooden snare managed by an old but still functional one 😀Roland TD8? above all, where can I purchase the solution you proposed? I write from Italy. Thank you very much in advance for your support

[@christskingdom8950]

I have 5 of these triggers. Perhaps a smaller piezo for the cone trigger would lower the signal. I have a td50 and 27 and so far ok on Tom applications (use 3 ply heads used).

[@francescozerboni4970]

Hi, do you think that works with Yamaha EAD10? Thanks

[@pabloagredaayala9724]

I was having the same issue with a similar center mounted trigger (ufo drums), I was able fix the hotspot issue using 2 different curves settings, using two tracks in reaper with ez drummer 3 and the edrumin, but I´m getting double trigger on the edge, I think this is a tunning problem, do you have any recommendations for a 13 inch roland powerply tunning for better triggering? or is there a way for me to work with just the edge transients with the edrum in?

[@christskingdom8950]

I have several of thee and all the drums I make with them is to use the 3 ply head and to fill the entire drum with pillow fill (all the way up to the head wit some light resistance at the head level). I use the Roland Digital for a snare.

[@wayedk1040]

Can I do this too if I put this trigger in a snare drum and hook it up to my alesis strike module? How does positional sensing work with a single aux? I thought it could only play head and rim

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

The Alesis Strike doesn't support positional sensing so you won't be able to achieve that - it's a module limitation. You could use this with the Strike, but I know the Strike's trigger engine can be quite temperamental - I rarely get good rim triggering from the Strike with third party pads. However, I can't verify how well this trigger will work on it as I haven't tested it.

[@brianchalke2316]

Hi Luke. I realise this is an older thread but need to make a decision and wanted yours/ others thoughts if you’ve since used the newer internal jokeby side dual triggers. I own a Td50x and get a good response from my pd toms but they still hotspot in the centre. Also want a more acoustic drum look. Was initially considering the pda 120 and 140 for rack and floor toms. They are just soooo expensive though. I could do an a2e conversion but want really good trigger response. Ps isn’t essential as it’s for toms. I tried Roland rt 30hr on my mesh heads to see if this was an option. No hotspot but soft hits were missed despite increasing sensitivity. Anyhow if any advice here would be greatly appreciated. As I say I’m looking at best internal triggers on toms. No hotspots and positional sensor is not entirely necessary. Cheers 😀

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Hey Brian. I've not tried any of the Jobeky side triggers, unfortunately. I have a feeling they would play well though - the biggest issue I had with the centre one is the centre hotspot. The rest of the head had great response, so if the foam cylinder was off to the side (and much harder to hit), I imagine it would work well. I've seen a few people having issues with the RT triggers on mesh - although technically "supported", it seems they're not that great for that use. I believe the actual RT trigger presets are also optimised for acoustic heads, hence the ghost note issues on mesh. Some people have had better results using a Roland side trigger pad preset (like the PDX-12 or PDX-8), might be worth a try before buying something else.

[@brianchalke2316]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop thanks Luke for the response. I’ve been experimenting with putting a Roland RT-30hr trigger on my pd 128 pad and moving from trigger to pad. The setting in the td50x for the RT-30Hr doesn’t work well, however changing the pad trigger to pad3 or even pda100 works much better after adjusting sensitivity. Then recognising softer strokes. However the lack of ps on the pad seems very obvious. Maybe it’s a combination of no ps and reduced dynamic range. Also not able yet to get consistent heavy strikes. I can do more investigation and feed back 😀

[@SgtMcNasty]

Have owned both a Jobeky kit and a Drumtec kit I can say the Drumtec blows Jobeky away. The Drumtec Diabolo worked so good with the TD-50 but the Jobeky was i nightmare to tyr to get to trigger properly. Getting the Roland VAD503 in a few months so that will be interesting.

[@ruanddu]

Curious if you got the vad503? If so, how does it compare to drumtec?

[@semfor22]

Excellent review, Did you remove the snare strainer from the bottom head?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thank you! The drum I put it in was actually made to be an eDrum so it never had a snare strainer to begin with. If it had one, I would have removed it though, yes! No reason to have a strainer/wires rattling around on a drum that doesn't need them!

[@pmdci]

ok but what about the rubber rim for the snare? How did that came about? You had a spare one?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Yes, I already had this rubber rim because the drum has had a different trigger in it for years. It's a Roland rubber rim guard.

[@steevidrums]

A small sensitivity control (like what's on Alesis strike pads) would reduce the output enough to get the whole dynamic range.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Yeah, I agree. A pot or whatever they're called would sort probably sort it out. I think I mentioned that in one draft before I heavily edited this down haha!

[@baterizmo]

The only remedy I've found using the Strike module is playing with the velocity curves...adjusting sensitivity won't do much for me

[@andybdrumming2191]

I have a Jobeky kit and off the top of my head, I think maybe the foam trigger needs to be lowered inside just a bit as well as maybe adjusting Threshold. I only use them for bass and toms, but when I did use one for a snare it was really good. Though when you do buy one of their kits they are dialed in for you. But I have noticed every time I have had the rare issue, the height of the internal trigger has been to blame. So far internal screws came loose once or twice and did not pay close enough attention when changing heads another time. Have to say I do prefer the single bar triggers for my toms to the 3. Cheers!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

The foam was pretty much the right height to begin with but I did experiment with lowering it. Unfortunately it didn't make a noticeable difference. It's currently only just touching the head to the point where it wouldn't capture ghost notes properly if I lowered it even 1mm more haha! Glad that you get what you want from them though!

[@eDrumsInANutshell]

The energy distribution is different for the two trigger types. The cones pick up way less energy and this is also spread through the cone on the way to the piezo. I find the Jobeky foam quite hard ... There is a guy from Germany who developed rather soft cones. 2 component. But... I couldn't fit them into the Jobeky shell without major changes. Damn. This guy told me that Jazz eDrummers love his cones. www.drum-doktor.de/etrigger-sets

[@matenorth]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop I can confirm that the cone is to blame as i have a drum doctor cone for my snare side trigger and i had to really squeeze it against the mesh head in order to get a decent signal.

[@OthonasDrums]

I think the issue with this trigger is the large footprint of the foam piece..A cone would have been better suited for a center mounted trigger..I use the jobeky side mounted triggers for some of my toms and they work great,but for my snare drum i use r-drums..They are by far the best triggers on my kit..So smooth and zero hotspotting.but they are more highend so thats to be expected i guess

[@billjacobs5666]

How about doing a review on Extreme Drum triggers? Jot much out there on them. I’m considering them or Jobeky.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

If they send me some, I'll happily review them! Don't have the budget to buy them in myself at the moment.

[@immagood2]

WoW!! Luv this, Luke. Might be great for just toms...instead of the snare.*cheers from New York!*

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thank you! Yeah, definitely better on a tom in my opinion!

[@Taiko_Drum]

Do you know where to get a kick drum your size, I really like it

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thanks! I made mine myself, I bought a cheap 16x7 (kids) marching bass drum, built a trigger inside, added 2 floor tom brackets to it and bought spurs. It's also got a riser attached with a tom mount ai installed myself and with the kick drum platform from the Pearl floor tom Jungle Kit adapter. So quite a few different parts that I added to it. Not sure if there are any pre-built options like it

[@Taiko_Drum]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop thanks so much

[@charleslane2735]

Do you happen to know the spokes of the trigger are made out of?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Metal. Not sure exactly what kind!

[@wilcandou]

If you get over sensitive hassles just get a smaller piezo. The smaller the area mass, the less sensitive. Works a treat so that your not fighting gain staging. Done!

[@jackbritton9559]

So I went and bought these triggers and found the same, they're too hot. It comes down to the foam mechanism that they use. The contact surface from the foam is literally 10x larger than a proper cone based trigger. It's also way to soft and squishy for the application. The dynamics simply were not there. I went and bought a roland refurbish kit for about $40 that included a piezo and a foam cone. The hotspot diameter is now much, much smaller than it was and the clipping of the signal is no longer an issue unless you're deliberately trying to smack the center as hard as you can. Playing close to the hotspot does not cause any issues. You can find the foam cones for about $10 a piece and a pack of Piezos for $7 on ebay. I used the edrumin preset for the drumtec snare as a baseline and this thing is amazing now. I'm gonna convert all of my triggers to the cone as I think really, it's just about the foam that sits on top of the piezo that makes all the difference. Finally an accoustic shell solution that is accessible and inexpensive (Drumtec wants 600+ for their snare).

[@steevidrums]

Yey... first to comment!!!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Woah!

[@giordano.rizzardi]

metate na camiza fame na carità !

[@eDrumsInANutshell]

Hi folks, I am an expert on reducing Jobeky trigger signals. 😀 Together with Rob from eDrumIn I solved the problem. I got a Jobeky snare pad and it was way to hot. The thing is, I got the same problems with Drum Tec style diy snare. I changed the Jobeky foam rod to a cone. But the height of the cone was the problem... I ended up with the diy DrumTec style snare using two resistors 220 kohms and 20 kohm as a voltage divider. During this time I got to know some guys who a using two pots to adjust the head/rim sensitivity online.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

I did think about swapping the foam to a cone that I have and seeing if I could adjust the platform low enough. Had a feeling that resistors would be a good shout but I don't know a great deal about the ins and outs of the electronics. Good to hear that you've had success with it!

[@eDrumsInANutshell]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop Yeah. I am an experimental physicist...not as deep into electronics as the edrumin developer but a bit of everything. Those electronics are a beautiful side product of all that wonderful MIDI stuff. If anyone needs help, please shoot me a message... I am thinking of making a video about my journey exploring edrums but I worry about my English skills. I learned so much here on KZbin from Justin and VDrumTips and the DIY guys that I feel like to summarize it all up and provide a nice package of edrums and VST. By the way, I ordered 6 Lemon cymbals (5× 15" and a 18" and a 12" tom pad. it's amazing! 39$ for a cymbal pad...yeah!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Awesome! I say give it a go! I think you will find that people can be quite forgiving of things like language barriers if the content is good/useful and if you're passionate about the subject 😀

[@yeahtuna]

The sensitivity problem is that Jobeky uses cylinders instead of cones.

[@flashheart69]

I've just bought a edrumin from you. would you not recommend these triggers for your unit?

[@yeahtuna]

@@flashheart69 I would not recommend them.

[@Lemon_Drums_USA]

Have you had a chance to try the new updated Pintech pads cylinder cones? They’ve changed it up from the old design

[@SchwappSchwopp]

@@yeahtuna Why not, just because of the cones? The performance seems to be good atleast in this video. What about the side mounted triggers?

[@jezusmylord]

your hihat looks like you would snort things on it.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

😆

[@michaelcraine9114]

I own a Jobeky kit. The triggers aren't that bad. But please don't waste your money on their cymbals, junk..

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Which cymbals did you try? They still do a couple of kinds - the low volume conversions and the rubber ones (which are the same as the Lemon brand). I know they used to do a different style of converted cymbal too.

[@michaelcraine9114]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop I didnt try them I bought them. They were brilliance cymbals. They don't sell them anymore and I know why. They were junk and their support was even worse. Very disappointed with my whole experience. Don not recommend that company at all.

[@conair1625]

I've purchased from Jobeky. They don't include the connectors, which kind of sux. I ended buying on ebay a short cable with small connectors and a cheap converter plug for about 20% of the price.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Oh, I didn't realise the connectors didn't normally come with them. Will look into that and add a correction in the comments if they still don't.