Opening Scene | MIDWAY (2019) Movie CLIP HD

[@rolandmiller5456]

By the way what he says is true. Yamamoto was targeted for assassination. When that conversation happened I believe he was vice minister of the navy. He was later moved to become commander chief of the Japanese fleet Which means he was at sea. That order came directly from the Emperor. Play something else that also is fairly well known but doesn't get the attention it should.2 different Navy admirals in the 1930s proved that the attack of Pearl Harbor could work. Nobody paid attention.

[@davidwhite7767]

Oh the Irony. How did Yamamoto die again

[@59ogre]

@@davidwhite7767 He was struck by Lightning.

[@alohathaxted]

Oh they paid attention. They needed an excuse to get into the war. Just like the intercepted Mexican message in WW1

[@ToreDL87]

Naval codes were broken and P-38 Lightnings simply waited for him to show up, easiest kill ever.

[@cvhinson1]

Admiral Yarnell proved that carriers were the new dreadnaught.

[@brettsteele6551]

Prof. Edwin T. Layton, Jr. was my Ph.D. advisor at the University of Minnesota back in the early 1990s. He told me that his father frequently enjoyed late-night sake-drinking parties with Admiral Yamamoto and other leading Japanese-navy lights when he was stationed in Japan. Invariably, they would trade secrets and strategic insights. This is how his father learned just how deep the influence Mahan’s naval doctrine was in Japan at that time, which proved so crucial for his intelligence reasoning that Midway was the target.

[@TeddyRumble]

Right, American and Japanese soldiers and sailors traded secrets.

[@King_Scorpia_IV]

@@TeddyRumble High-ranking, bored, intelligent people come across their other people who are also high-ranking, bored, and intelligent. Said "secret" weren't the plans to the fucking Death Star, more likely they were opinions, ideas, and strategies.

[@ToreDL87]

@@King_Scorpia_IV Why bother, can't trust people to bother making an effort at modicum anymore.

[@bavery6957]

Well, there's little doubt about his role in providing crucial information about "American ways" to Japanese intelligence. Their agents and analysts were pretty top-notch...

[@jdee8407]

Who is Mahan?

[@bigrich6750]

Great, straight forward movie, without the stupid love triangle crap in Pearl Harbor.

[@TeddyRumble]

Terrible crap.

[@ald1144]

@@TeddyRumble Agreed. I liked seeing the Enterprise on the big screen but that was about all it had going for it.

[@eisbaros]

Bingo 👍🏼

[@slackerman9758]

Better than the worst high budget war movie ever made, sure. Still garbage though.

[@modilevi6053]

yeah, all that family and loves stuff gets on my nerves, there are other places for that

[@jiyushugi1085]

Those interested in reading a Japanese pilot's account of the battle should read 'The Miraculous Torpedo Squadron', the autobiography of Juzo Mori. Only recently translated into English, Mori's memoir includes vivid descriptions of his life in pre-war Japan, training to become an IJN pilot, flying in China, training for and carrying out the attack on Pearl Harbor, and his roles in the attacks on Wake, Midway and Guadalcanal.

[@dubdub680]

Who tf cares about them, do you wanna read a nazis take on battles too

[@robertmiller4004]

@@dubdub680 I would.

[@benx6264]

@@dubdub680 any serious historian

[@kty1245]

After watching this and seeing Japanese and US naval ships conduct joint exercises on a monthly basis, I really feel how things have changed. The current Japanese Navy has one of the best relations with the US Navy, and their alliance has exponentially grown in the past two decades. Likewise, we are now seeing British naval ships, including their aircraft carriers, come all the way to Japan for joint training, highlighting the de-facto semi-alliance between the two countries. Multilateral exercises among Japan, US, UK, Australia, South Korea, the Philippines etc. are a new normal now.

[@zam6877]

We actually "destroyed an enemy" by helping Japan rebuild

[@bonjovi2757]

Japan is as enslaved today as it has ever been in modern history. Japan is an island nation that absolutely needs outside assistance to survive in a modern world. They know what side their bread is buttered on nd have teamed up with America for survival. Japan would have just as easily cozied up to the Russians or the Germans if WWII had turned out differently. Even still, Japan is a dieing culture, collapsing demographics and an economy in complete ruin. If not for America propping it up, it would have become a third world nation by now. Japan depends on our help to survive now more than ever as an infant needs it's mother.

[@dbkfrogkaty1]

I recently saw that the latest American aircraft carrier, USS Gerald R. Ford sailed from English Channel to several locations along the coast of Norway to show solidarity with another of our NATO powers. The people of Norway were so happy and proud to see the worlds largest warship is out there ready to protect them and their interests.

[@JohnJ469]

They were allies in WW 1 as well. Times change and so can alliances.

[@AntonGudenus]

@@zam6877 Germany and Japan were destroyed as enemies by rebuilding them and giving them some of the reasonable demands they went to war for. Those things being the ablitiy to aquire ressources from neighbouring countries, but instead of conquest it is via mutually beneficial trade. Japan currently has nothing to gain from any expansionism, as long as they can buy and safely have delivered the huge ressource imports needed to fuel their country. And those trade routes over the sea are currently protected by the USN and Japan is protecting their ability to trade with countries by being a good customer and ally. Germany also has nothing to gain from attacking their neighbours anymore. By virtue of being in the EU and their neighbours being in the EU, they now have good access to all those countries ressources and human capital. All the while Germany is providing their less rich neighbours with huge EU subsidies and access to Germanies market in return. The European single market actually is a remarkably effective instrument for peace, as its 4 freedoms basically make any expansionism moot. Free movement of goods, capital, labour and freedom to establish/provide services make borders/countries more akin to administrative divisions like states than actual different countries. Hence also why the nationalists hate the EU so much.

[@Tonysmithmusic]

it was a case of national insanity for the japanese military controlled govt to think they could defeat US and all its allies in a war, once america industry got up to speed their total defeat was inevitable. i’ve just finished reading ian tolls 3 volume pacific war books, incredible detail in these books.

[@EasyEight3674]

They thought one good hard smack would set the US back on its heels, and then by the time we recovered we'd be presented with a fait accomplie -- that Japan had control of the Western pacific, so why can't we all get along and you just sell us some more oil and steel, eh?

[@TeddyRumble]

They knew they couldn't win a war, they hoped America would sue for peace. Oopsie!

[@TeddyRumble]

I read the complete Samuel Morrison's complete naval history of the Second World War.

[@Casca-su3ty]

They almost did ! We were just lucky my friend respect is given

[@waichui2988]

Japan in the 1930s was a country gone insane. In which country could low level officers murder top leaders of the country with impunity? In which country would the navy and army hate each other so much that they barely talked to each other? Which country would let a group of low level officers drag them into a major war? Yes, the full scale invasion of China in 1937 was started by junior officers and the national leadership felt that they had to go along. You are right about Japan being insane in the 1930s and 1940s.

[@ericericson3535]

Actually, the fuel tanks along with the submarine base were the targets that were supposed to be on the third attack wave. Of the twenty-six planes that were lost at Pearl, twenty-three were shot down on the second attack wave. It was felt that the element of surprise was lost, plus they did not know where the American carriers were. It was better, they thought, to get out with a resounding victory, having achieved the main objective, crippling the Pacific fleet and with their fleet untouched. The submarine Pacific force turned out to be the main reason for the victory in the Pacific.

[@stuartwald2395]

That concept (the targets for a putative third wave) comes from Fuchida's post-war memoirs, which have been highly criticized for many reasons. Jonathan Parshall (along with others) has noted that there was no set target plan beyond what was carried out by the two waves, and Japanese doctrine would have called for continuing attacks on ships as opposed to ground targets (other than the airfields which had been suppressed).

[@TeddyRumble]

Our submarine fleet was heroic, but not the reason for victory.

[@ericericson3535]

@@stuartwald2395 All good points, but I'd rather take the word of someone who was actually there, (Fushida) than a historian, (albeit a good one) who wrote about it.

[@ericericson3535]

@@TeddyRumble Well, on 12/8 the submarine force WAS the Pacific Fleet! All they did was sink eighty percent of Japan's merchant fleet and twenty percent of its ships of the line. All with less than two percent of the Navy's personnel. As my COB on the USS BANG (SS385), and seven war patrols once said. "The atom bomb ended the war, but the Mark 14 torpedo won it!"

[@ericericson3535]

All good points, but I'll take the word of Fuchida, someone who was there, over that of an historian, albeit good, who wrote about it.

[@Patrick-k9q]

Quite possibly the most illustrative FA/FO moments in modern history.

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

What a great movie - I watched it several times never gets old.

[@jerometaperman7102]

It's a pretty good movie but not a great one. It relies heavily on CGI but doesn't handle it well. This clip here shows the strafing zeroes only about 15 feet off the ground. Later, when they show a dive bombing run, the pilot swoops down on the carrier barely higher than the ship's tower, cruises down the length of the ship and then drops his bomb. There is also a lot of overacting and macho braggadocio. It is, however, largely historically accurate.

[@casualobserver3145]

@@jerometaperman7102. Agreed. The planes seem to strafe at altitudes of 12 feet and dive bomb at 50. Even most video games appear more realistic.

[@PamMullinax-q2c]

It does accurately portray the order of events leading up to the battle and gives credit to the men who orchestrated the response. Before this movie, I thought Charlton Heston and Henry Fonda were responsible for the outcome of the battle!😂

[@mikekrone4582]

Loved the original. This one is way too "hollywood"

[@jerometaperman7102]

@@mikekrone4582 - "Too Hollywood" is a good way to put it. I liked the one with Charlton Heston and Henry Fonda also. That one was just early enough to still be influenced by the apparent attitude that you always must include a soap opera in your war movie. Other than that, it was very good.

[@TrueSonOfOdin]

Patrick Wilson is one of our greatest actors, and he was perfectly cast as Layton, as he was for Travis in Billy Bob Thornton's matchless Alamo. I took my kids over here in Norway to see it. Their Granduncle Homer was a SeaBee who had been on the island, albeit after the battle. We had rocking seats, and my 9 yo daughter fortunately pointed out to me the button to turn off the water spray nozzle. Unlike the previous Midway film, the not-decisive fighter - F4F Wildcat vs. Zero - combat was not shown at all. Worse, they had the USAAF involvement as dozens of B-26 2-engine bombers dropping bombs, when there were actually over a dozen B-17 4-engine bombers utterly wasting bombs from high altitude and the 4 ridiculously torpedo-carrying B-26s wasting their defective ordnance. One of the B-26 pilots, Muri, actually/historically flew his plane down and only slightly above the length of Akagi's flight deck to avoid its antiaircraft guns, and that would have made a very good scene. All this was CGI and could be corrected/added.

[@Agent77X]

Wow! Miss this war movies! Will catch at Amazon, now!😊

[@markp8581]

Was really done well. I was going to see it alone and my wife said she wanted to go and she actually liked a war movie and learned something.

[@patoconnor9600]

Wife?

[@markp8581]

@@patoconnor9600 1st thing after per usual she asked me if it was true? I said "pretty much". Usually she thinks history is a "bad thing". I know right?

[@lewis7315]

Your family needs to watch the combat cameraman footage 1950s series "victory at sea." "Midway is East" episode especially.

[@jedgarren2901]

I bought this movie from iTunes and I am Damn glad I did.

[@longtabsigo]

The houses in this scene, I used to live there. 27 Worchester Ave.

[@bryandelacruz9066]

Beautiful place

[@caprera]

Too bad for the exaggerated special effects this movie was very good

[@mikes9781]

And the moral of the story is, don't depend on foreign energy supplies.

[@Agent77X]

Woody Harrelson from Cheers! is in it too! Must be one of the old sailors that mans an anti-aircraft battery and gets killed? Have not seen him in years, glad they gave him a role in updated WW2 movie!😊

[@Azazel2024]

Wrong

[@matthewdudley6278]

Why was there only ONE Medal of Honor awarded for the Battle of Midway if it was so important in U.S. history? So many sacrifices. I will admit I have a bias, as I graduated from the same high school as the only Medal of Honor winner from that battle USMC Capt. Richard Fleming. So many other men gave their lives in a similar fashion...

[@jamesbernsen3516]

Particularly shocking since Woodrow Wilson gave out 56 for the occupation of Veracruz, in which only 21 Americans were killed. Politics has soiled the medal on a few occasions.

[@kevinlynott309]

Maybe because the action involved mainly aircraft v aircraft/flattops/Midway and troops didn't come into direct personal contact normally associated whit MoH awards.

[@Emmitt1800-cf8nh]

And now the MoH seems like a joke. If I had the authority to apologize to all of those who rightfully earned one, I would

[@jeffreypeterson3072]

I love the wasn't your empire built on ridiculous traditions line

[@angloirishcad]

Why? It was built on ambtion, guts, trade and commerce...and its the reason why the USA even exists. Not ricidulous traditions...

[@algardaus]

Its bs as usual

[@Wanderer628]

I mean American was built on the idea everyone is free then spent the rest of it's existence enslaving an entire people and when they couldn't do that subverting the freedom of anyone who isn't American, not sure they have much ground to stand on.

[@nathanielbugg7355]

the British empire was built on the fact we mixed anti-malarial tonics into our gin. Most of the 'traditions' we have stem from things like this, if it's a tradition its probably because it stopped people getting killed...

[@robruss62]

These days, wish the British had 130 destroyers, 50 subs, and five carriers... Much less the 58 cruisers, 12 battleships and 3 battlecruisers...

[@jamesalexander5623]

This is THE Midway Film Everyone should see!

[@KevinBreisacher]

I always love that they forget to mention that the oil embargo was imposed because of Japan's brutal invasion of China. I always think that if a Medal Of Honor winner was born or lived their life within twenty miles of a facility it must be name for the recipient before it can be named for a politician.

[@timothywalker4563]

Good opening I was late to that movie. Yamamoto talking about an oil embargo from the U.S and the short war Versus long war very true.

[@HailAnts]

I hate that they always show fighters flying between ships and buildings. That just didn't happen.

[@chubz8969]

not to mention fighters flying 3 meters above ground between trees on a road wtf.

[@bknwuzheer1]

gotta please the producers!

[@TeddyRumble]

Japanese Zeros used to convert into cars and drive along streets. Yeah, 'Pearl Harbor' showed the same BS.

[@jeffscoggin7365]

@@TeddyRumbleDon’t forget the torpedo bombers that became Transformers

[@lonestarbug]

@@chubz8969Agree.

[@samueltobelemmarquez8582]

My grandfather always said try to think like the enemy and think like you would destroy your own fortress and you will hit the nail on the head of how the attack will be.🐺⚔️🇺🇸⚓🇻🇮⚔️🐺

[@Sunday_fits]

In many people’s eyes, WW2 started a year ago with the Spanish civil war

[@Azazel2024]

Also known as the Third Reichs warmup

[@ShaneKilpatrick-i4t]

Yamamoto. Awesome man. Didn’t want war with the U.S. He had seen the might of American Industry. However, when it came, he did everything he could to win. If only the Japanese had hit the fuel tanks at Pearl Harbour. What a difference that would have been.

[@coachhannah2403]

Actually, it can also be argued that he tanked the IJN effort.

[@notSoSmthOptr]

If they hit the critical fuel tanks and salvage yards at pearl, they could have at least a year and a half of headstart to secure the Defensive perimeter of the japanese empire.. But in the long run US industrial might will recover those losses in that same time also..

[@bobthebuilder9553]

Shoulda, coulda, woulda. If only the carrier fleet was in Pearl at the time. None of that came about. Good thing, too. Plans don't always turn out as they do on maps and papers.

[@666mengel]

Pilots were ordered not to hit the tanks, as fire and smoke would obscure their plans to hit American Ships in the harbor.

[@matthewhuszarik4173]

Nothing the Japanese could have done would have made a difference except developing atomic bombs in the early 30s. Even that would have had limited benefit because Japan didn’t have domestic sources of uranium.

[@phil_nebula676]

0:33 Not sure what is the name of that RN officer or if he is base on real person? But the 14-inch gun is likely a reference to the King George V-class battleship, which is armed with 10 14-inch guns in three turrets, 2 quadruple barrell, and one twin barrell.

[@MikeJones-qn1gz]

I think its in reference to the sinking of Prince of Wales and Repulse as a kind of smack in the face (Idk why but Americans like to shit on the Brits in all their war movies). I don't think they are referencing anyone in particular just a stand in for the Brits. The problem is until 1940 the British considered Japan a close ally, they had played a key role in Japans modernization, it was only after the occupation of French-Indo China (modern day Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos) that the Brits began to see Japan as a potential threat and re-enforced the colonies in the east. So he should actually be advising restraint with Japan and be in a similar boat as Yamamoto hoping that they can get the Ultra nationalist in the army under control.

[@jaycareaga9929]

That’s Captain Bernard Rawlings Naval Attaché to Tokyo in 1936. He later became second-in-command of the British Pacific Fleet with his flag in HMS King George V. He commanded British Task Force 57 in the Pacific from 1944 through the Battle of Okinawa in the spring of 1945.

[@stevenweaver3386]

The "R" class battleships and the ballecruisers Royal Sovereign and Repulse had 14" main batteries.

[@73Trident]

@@stevenweaver3386 They were armed with 15" naval rifles. That is a fact. Look it up.

[@phil_nebula676]

​@jaycareaga9929 Thanks for the info on him I check Wikipedia. But couldn't find a name on the wiki. I personally associate the British Pacific Fleet with Admiral Bruce Fraser who in 1943 was in-command of the home fleet during the Battle of the North Cape which sunk the Battleship Scharhorst.

[@lengbunlong8528]

Iconic war film I love it so much

[@tommykaung5882]

This is a great war movie. Suprisingly for the most part, it is historically accurate. Casual viewers and movie critics don't like it but for history nerds and of course, Azur Lane fans, it is a fun watch.

[@The_Curious_Cat]

Ah yes, the cliché of Japanese airplanes straffing streets flying super low. Or bombing super low. Or flying super low in between the battleships. So accurate. Or the US dive bombers flying also super low and escaping an explosion that would destroy their planes. And you can't have any flight scene without firing all the guns in the plane, even when they are not pointing at a target. lol

[@Hunpecked]

I like that some of the movie torpedoes were aimed along the long axis of the battleships. I guess the Japanese thought aiming at the broadside was too easy. 🤣

[@tigqc]

Not totally accurate to our reality, but 100% accurate to the reality the film is set in.

[@moistmike4150]

1937 - Yamamoto is warned by an American than he may be assassinated by his own countrymen 1943 - Yamamoto is assassinated by an American History is ironic.

[@louierenault7344]

It was wartime

[@ToreDL87]

@@louierenault7344 Was still pretty distasteful, dgmw Japan had to lose, but there's a tact and grace to things. If he was on Yamato on her final mission then that's one thing, but nobody else ran around purposely hunting and blasting admirals.

[@stevenweaver3386]

Lcdr Layton became Nimitz's intelligence chief. If I remember correctly from the book "And I Was There" it was Layton who gave the recommendation that resulted in the death of his friend Yamamoto

[@skyranger1366]

With Yamato's death America easily shortened the war by another year.

[@sld1776]

Targeted during a war where he was a high-ranking commander. That's not what assassination means.

[@JohnJ469]

After watching real planes in "Tora Tora Tora" these graphics look like a video game.

[@edhuber3557]

"I'll take 'Implausible Conversations That Never Happened' for 200, Alex."

[@yohuma9766]

Yamamoto is a crazy man

[@jkorshak]

"Today on Cinema Exposition we bring you ..."

[@louisjamin7195]

One of the few times I regretted buying a ticket to the movie...

[@minavanderleest9493]

I liked this movie. Unfortunately good movies are not always given the recognition they deserve. Kinda like good books. Time and place.

[@BonsaiBurner]

And some say we had warning and wanted an excuse...

[@jkorshak]

Some people say lots of stupid crap parroted from wackjob sources...

[@ronclark9306]

FDR wanted us in the war. He kept applying pressure on Japan using any means EXCEPT firing a shot. Their attack on Pearl made them look like the bad guys. You can argue whether or not FDR was right to do what he did, but history should show that the attack on Pearl wasn't so much of a surprise. FDR forced the issue.

[@jkorshak]

@@ronclark9306 Japan had invaded Manchuria. Japan had invaded Indochina. Japan had invaded China. Their attack on PH quite simply made them look like a nation who attacked the United States and killed 2500 Americans or, as you put it, "the bad guys." LOL Japan forced the issue. Japan was intent on expansion and the US and Britain weren't going along with it. Certainly not by doing business with them. I'm not arguing right and wrong - Japan was wrong. Period. They were a military junta intent on expansion, control, subjugation, and exploitation. And this was BEFORE they attacked PH. That Japan WOULD attack the US wasn't a surprise in of itself because between the break down in negotiations and what could be gleaned from radio/cable intercepts it was concluded the Japanese were going to attack the US or Britain or both. War warnings were sent to multiple commands. But they didn't know where and they didn't know when and they certainly did not know on what day. The War Department thought it was going to be the Philippines and, again, the Japanese did strike there soon after the raid on PH. FDR wanting a war would have FDR seizing the moment and declaring war on Germany in support of Great Britain the moment Germany invaded the Soviet Union. No one wanted a war in the Pacific except the Japanese. and they were intent upon expansion and had been long before the US leveled a trade embargo. An embargo I remind you which was in response to Japan's ongoing expansions beyond Manchuria into China and into Indochina. Indeed, negotiations were broken off specifically because the US (and its allies) would not lift its embargo unless Japan removed itself from Indochina and China. Imperial Japan was very much the "bad guys" in this course of events.

[@briannewman6216]

The statement that nobody wants a war was obviously untrue. The US government desperately wanted to get directly involved in WW2. They saw cutting off Japan's oil supply as an easy way to get into the war since cutting off Japan's oil supply would force Japan's hand.

[@madelief47]

Nobody wants a War.... but when Japan brutallally invaded China, it became obvious that things would change. The rape of Nanking made it all clear too well. Japan wanted to expand in a violent way. Cut the oil supply was an attempt to stop this. But politics under Tojo were radical and violent. Japan left already the Bond of Nations and did not commit anymore to the Naval Washington threaty. (To limit tonnage of warships; that's why they build the Yamato and Mushachi in secret.; to outgun the US battleships.) Yes, Japan was forced to wage War, but they made the circumstances themselvs .

[@rd468magnum]

Maybe Yamamoto thought it would have been a better shorter war,rather than

[@RockwallCNC]

I liked the historical accuracy of the movie, but the special effects were way too over the top and they tried to cram way too much history into one movie with the Pearl Harbor attack and the Doolittle Raid. Those events each deserve their own movie.

[@jamesalexander5623]

Yes but it did explain the Proper progression of events! It's a Much better "Midway" than the earlier one!

[@lesigh1749]

A film that nobody asked for which wasn't as enjoyable or well made as the original version.

[@kirknelson235]

March 20,2026. The 2026 Awakening.

[@kerryhill4470]

Somebody always wants a war. Who said, "you may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you." ?

[@jonsmith2061]

Don't mess with our boats!

[@mattcosner8681]

Geez. Exposition much?

[@mikeyj9607]

well as many of our well teached kids and young adults could not even get the Location of Peral Habor correct let alone why it happen yeah exposition was needed

[@ericlundquist3466]

is this a video game with cut story scenes? the computer rendering is terrible if so. I do like the cut scenes though. They even added the Independence day movie scene where the slapper chases an alien ship around the mountains but this time with ww2 planes =D

[@luislah6104]

El océano pacifico es el Mar Español, durante cientos de años lo navegamos y en Sevilla están todos los informes de esos barcos, rutas, corrientes oceánicas, vientos, etc., los japoneses despreciaron esa información y perdieron la guerra, los sovieticos no, y durante decenas de años sus submarinos navegaron impunemente en ese océano.

[@shilombaba]

History for 9 years old, The Movie.

[@stanleyshannon4408]

If they made historic movies that satisfied history buffs, they would be called documentaries and audiences could be counted on your fingers.

[@shilombaba]

@@stanleyshannon4408 There is a spot, in between documentaries and plain propaganda :)

[@stanleyshannon4408]

@@shilombaba history is always someone's propaganda. But movies have to be entertaining.

[@ald1144]

@@shilombaba Yes. There was a Japanese movie called Yamamoto, Commander in Chief that did Midway very well. It didn't need over-the-top effects to create drama.

[@garyt19651]

you simply don't get it

[@Casca-su3ty]

Those little buggers killed over 3 million in ww2 so I wouldn't call them little anymore. Never underestimate your enemy in the field of battle because it would be your Destruction

[@thikifo395]

where did you get that number from? they killed over 25 million in China alone. They ruled korea with an Iron Fist since the very early years of the 1900s

[@Casca-su3ty]

@@thikifo395 oooo what we got here is a battle of history !

[@rogervalberg1722]

@@Casca-su3ty Here in Asia, WWII started when Japan properly invaded China in 1937. The events at Pearl Harbour were mainly a continuation and expansion of aggression by the Empire of China. Hence for us, the war dead is ballparked at 40 million, 25 million in China and the rest is steady rampage into Southeast Asia and to the borders of India.

[@Casca-su3ty]

@rogervalberg1722 actually japan invaded Manchuria in 32 not 37 and I do agree with in regards ww2 started back in 32. And you need to learn history u mean the expansion and aggression of JAPAN! During this campaign JAPAN invaded the city of Nanking murdering,raping,pillaging over 500 thousand people that's half a million thats genocide in case you didn't know. You got your facts reversed

[@rogervalberg1722]

@@Casca-su3ty I think you're dates are accurate but you're not clear of the events. Yes, Manchuria was invaded in '32, but that was a foothold which was to undo the loss of face and ground, when Japan was forced to surrender their captured territory from the 2nd Dino-Russian war. In 1937, they properly invaded China, as in to take over the whole country. Unfortunately for us in East Asia, the suffering of this occupation, entire villages wiped out until today is erased because history only remembers Pearl Harbour.

[@jishaku38]

ミッドウェーにも雪が降るんだな。

[@ElsinoreRacer]

Too bad they garbaged up all the flight scenes.

[@carrickrichards2457]

'Nobody wants a war'. Nation states pursue their own best interests, so cannot avoid one either.

[@CaneFu]

Japan was making a mistake...

[@steveoh9285]

Our SBD dive bombers, Slow But Deadly.

[@LanceStoddard]

At that time period the Royal Navy used 15 inch guns.

[@richardburdett7779]

The KGV Class were in build at this time and they were armed with 14 inch guns. Nelson and Rodney were of course armed with 16 inch main armament.

[@LanceStoddard]

@@richardburdett7779 No, the KGV wasn't completed until 1940. Thus scene is dated 1937.

[@adamtruong1759]

Maybe it was a 2nd London Naval Treaty thing, where the British proposed all signatories be restricted to 14" gun BBs.

[@LanceStoddard]

@@adamtruong1759 Just a mistake by the moviemakers. Very unlikely that a British officer would refer to getting someone under his 14 inch guns, when they didn't have any.

[@adamtruong1759]

@@LanceStoddard I mean, they signed the Treaty in 1936, so any future British BB would have 14". Although, the 15" gun was far more ubiquitous

[@lewis7315]

This movie is no where near as good as the movie "Tota Tora Tora" ... or the 1950's "Midway is East" episode of "Victory at Sea." its on u-tube.

[@gandalfgreyhame3425]

Midway certainly slowed down the Japanese successes in the Pacific, otherwise they might have reached northern Australia. But ultimately, it was the industrial might of the USA that really turned the tide, the building of over 100 aircraft carriers, superior naval aircraft, the B-29 which burned down over 60 Japanese cities and dropped two atomic bombs. Japan was never going to win against all of that.

[@peterrollinsonlorimer]

I have not seen this, I believe it could be a great movie, other than the video game style aircraft cgi.

[@kevinstreeter6943]

Japan was not forced into war. They had a choice. They could have stopped their aggression against China, or they could have went for the resources in Indonesia. It they would stay away from American territories, would have not entered the war.

[@jorgemercado4428]

2+ hour movie, gotta I say, not the worst movie, although a little over fluffed, though I got a pin for it.

[@ips1448]

The scene with the girl watching the attack was true. A friend of mine was in school at that time. She was in the school yard watcing the attack. Shapnel was falling around her. Teachers ran around grabbing kids, running them into shelter. My friend thought it was some kind of celebration.

[@SuperChuckRaney]

I can totally see it.... I have a friennd born on the 4th of July, SHE says she was 10 years old before she realized ALL THAT fireworks etc where NOT for her b-day

[@toddatwell1837]

It was Sunday they weren’t in school

[@ANZAC1915]

I watched this and then watched the old Henry Fonda version. The older version walked all over this one.

[@Azazel2024]

This was an AMAZING movie. Showed tne Japanese as combatants not monsters or victims . Showed reality

[@softdrink-0]

They were monsters. Their navy wasn’t

[@Azazel2024]

@softdrink0 . The Japanese people are not monsters any more than we are. Absolutely some of their troops were. No dispute there at all . Their military culture was . However what you said is racist

[@MrBreakdownBoy]

Basically Japan was saying, "We are slaughtering and plundering China, don't sanction us please."

[@PolPotsPieHole]

"nobody wants a war".......the heck they didnt

[@timotb1]

Its 2024. Never new this movie was remade.

[@TeddyRumble]

Watch it. It's really good.

[@ald1144]

Don't watch it. It's really terrible.

[@namelessnick9791]

haha

[@fredgarv79]

you know the reason why you never heard of it, right? because it's probably bad

[@cathybrind2381]

I liked the original Midway movie and had doubts about this one. But overall it turned out fine. in my view the special effects are vastly superior to those on the Pearl Harbour movie which was no match for Tora Tora Tora, which thankfully was too early n the piece to have any of that computer stuff. Midway version 2 generally shows how computer animation should be used - to create credible and accurate reproductions of ships and aircraft no longer around and manipulate them in a realistic way. For example WWII aircraft could not whizz around, roll and manoeuvre like modern jets. But directors seem to think audiences want that. Pity.

[@pratiknath1712]

Thats why u never push ur adversary into a corner.

[@Baron-Ortega]

That's why pushing Putin into a corner is a bad idea

[@criticalthinker8953]

​@Baron-Ortega you are an appeaser and disgust me.

[@MrCantStopTheRobot]

Japan lost, and so will Russia.

[@Harry-tb8yo]

The biggest nonsense I ever heard. You push your enemy into a corner and beat the crap out of him.

[@Harry-tb8yo]

@@Baron-Ortega Pushing Putin into a corner might teach him an important lesson, maybe the last lesson of his miserable life: if you apply the logic of war to others the same logic will apply to you. He has to know that everything has its price.

[@gonzisonsbc]

They knew it was going to happen they just let it because most Americans didn't want to fight in another foreign war. This swayed their opinion.

[@hiramabiff2017]

Yes ! America surprised by a sneak attack after a global war had been raging for over 2yrs.

[@douggyd8973]

A war that was raging in Europe and Asia thousands of miles away from us that you should've been able to handle yourselves. So yes we were caught in prepared because we didn't want to get dragged into you're mess.. again

[@paulroberts971]

Did they have dishwashers in 1941? Especially in military housing? I was in newly built military housing in 1978, and the only dishwasher was my wife and I!

[@stevekight1955]

Now our freedom is under attack by the orange menace.

[@carlgrussendorf8849]

Hate to rain on your parade.Was on a WW2 ship in Pearl when they filmed Pearl Harbor.And they used a few old Zeros... And multiplied them for scenes.And our gunners mates were trying to keep up with them using our 5 inch guns.Couldnt.The Zero was the Top Gun or the time.And they really could fly low to the docks and around for close ups.Opinion was if they let them loose again in Pearl Harbor...they'd probably get them with modern tech...but it wouldnt be quick!

[@plmokm33]

I'm sorry but if a CIWS can shoot down modern jets then a prop driven 80 year old plane would stand zero chance.

[@TheJadeJester]

Billy Hughes.

[@octyt217]

and that was what exactly what they did ... restrict the oil trade and push them into a corner

[@arsenalroo]

This scene is too far on the face. It's a shortcut. Waaaay to complicated.

[@anamiacdm]

Prior to the defeat of the NAZIS, the US allocated a mere 15% of its war production to the Japanese enemy. With this we were able to push back Japan nearly to their homeland. How were we able to do this? First off, Japan was a small country. Secondly, they were pretty busy fighting a land war in Asia. Lastly, they made a lot of mistakes. If they hadn't made so many mistakes, we might have needed to allocate 16%, or even 17% of our war production to achieve the same results.

[@redtobertshateshandles]

Men died fighting them.

[@plmokm33]

@@redtobertshateshandles no shit

[@ericericson3535]

Our Pacific submarine force. Sank 80% of Japan's merchant fleet, and 20% of its ships of the line with less than 2% of the US Navy's manpower.

[@ianober23]

Why does Hollywood botch historical movies so badly???? The aviation scenes in this movie were SO far off its not even close to believable. Its like they asked a 14 yo to choreograph the scenes. So bad!

[@shilombaba]

Well one could argue one would have to be a 14yo to believe this version of the events anyway.

[@flankspeed]

Because they're making them for a populace that, never mind studying history, gets shot if they go to school? 😏

[@lonestarbug]

Agree. Bombed at the box office.

[@bethjohnson8353]

Because the majority of Americans don’t know any history and don’t care! It’s so sad. So movies directors don’t have to spend anything on investigating historical fact. We needed a war with someone,it’s what brought us completely out of the long economic effects of the depression and prosperity for 30 years!

[@Xyzabc998]

More ham than a butcher that only sells ham. Everyone else of course are incompetent stereotypes.

[@PhotoDesigner1]

The simpleton from "Cheers" is cast as Chester W. Nimitz ....... ???? ....... I would have preferred a "no-name" actor with talent.

[@kalbs89]

Too bad they didn't get the history correct

[@f.j7086]

This new Midway is a joke compared to the old Midway

[@lonestarbug]

Yes. Terrible.

[@Mister_Pedantic]

Do you mean the 1976 Charleton Heston vanity project? That Midway? "Help Murr with Air Ops, Matt". What an insult to Rear Adm Murr Arnold!

[@TeddyRumble]

So much better than 'Pearl Harbor'

[@paulkirkland3263]

That's no great achievement, though.

[@TeddyRumble]

@@paulkirkland3263 It's world's better, though Kate Beckensale is nice to look at.

[@FunnySeaLion-ye2vg]

Read Day of Infamy. Then tell me if you think it was a failure of intelligence .

[@trevormccarthy9019]

The CGI aircraft etc ruin it …

[@VincenzoDiMattia-yj4or]

The very same time he was drinking to the peace, he was thinking at how to hit U. S. Navy in Pearl Harbour.

[@redtobertshateshandles]

If you want peace, prepare for war. The Romans.

[@ValleysOfRain]

The US also has dossiers upon dossiers of plans on how to invade its allies, to this day. That is simply what a military's strategic office is meant to plan for. At the end of the day, it's silly to be offended by pragmatism. This is simply the outcome of colliding spheres of expansionist policy.

[@gordonwood1594]

@@ValleysOfRain Many years ago I read a book about US war preparations in the 1930's. Apparently the only foreign navy the US Admiralty had ever war gamed was the British RN.

[@dutchflats]

Stupid, unrealistic CGI aircraft scenes ruined this movie!

[@lonestarbug]

Yes.

[@fredgarv79]

really do not like all these movies with CGI phony looking graphics from a computer game. Ba Ba Black sheep used real planes along with some stock footage and it worked.The great movie A bridge too far used real planes, the great movie battle of britian used real planes. Imagine trying to pitch a movie or tv show like that and say we are going to use real planes, they would laugh you out of the room because it's too expensive now. Just use CGI cartoons.

[@deano2160]

This film is complete shit. The worst type of hollywood war film. Every cliched crap in the book is present. The soldiers deserved more than this garbage.

[@jakebarnes1950]

LOL, This is a Hollywood War Movie, take two Tylenols and watch the Brady Bunch reruns.

[@lonestarbug]

Agree.

[@Mister_Pedantic]

This is a Hollywood War Movie, take three Tylenols and watch the 1976 Midway which is worse in it's own way. That one should have been called "Charleton Heston Vanity Project".

[@enigmabis.]

too bad the cgi looks fanmade

[@FlorianusadisaputraErwin]

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[@TeddyRumble]

IF the Japanese had sunk all of our carriers, and IF they had an invasion force, and IF they had occupied Hawaii, their ships could have sailed to the West Coast, and their carrier planes could have bombed our shipyards, and dragged the war out by years. We wouldn't have devoted as much effort to the European theater, Normandy wouldn't have happened, and perhaps Germany would have fought the Soviets to a standstill.

[@janefelix3821]

Japan had no way to sail to the West Coast from Hawaii. It is over 2500 miles (4,000 km) and what would they have used for fuel as Hawaii had no oil reserves. Japan had zero intention of taking Hawaii as they could not supply the attacking forces with oil so there would be no way they could defend themselves from the USA's counter attacks.

[@TeddyRumble]

@@janefelix3821 They certainly could have fortified Hawaii to make taking it back extremely difficult.

[@janefelix3821]

@@TeddyRumble Again, they would not have oil to supply their troops. And they would have had a supply chain issue as transporting supplies across the Pacific would have been nearly impossible as they had limited shipping and once they lost ships, it would have been not easy to replace them. The purpose of the attack was to cripple the USA's fleet so they could take over the Dutch East Indies and British Malay; however, since the air craft carriers were not at Pearl on Dec. 7, the attack turned out to be a failure.

[@Harry-tb8yo]

An invasion? How should that go? Just look at the planning and effort the allied had to take for landing in Normandy with relatively short distance from Britain. Even if the Japanes would have taken Hawaii the distance to the US west coast were still too large for such an operation. Japan never had the goal to conquer the US. They just wanted to keep them out of the western Pacific.

[@TeddyRumble]

@@janefelix3821 they took the Dutch East Indies and had plenty of oil.

[@FlorianusadisaputraErwin]

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[@muckle8]

“ nobody wants a war “ - an American. 🤔

[@douggyd8973]

Tried to stay out of both global conflicts that you guy's started but couldn't finish by yourselves. just to be dragged in by Europe the first time and Asia the second- Americans

[@muckle8]

@douggyd8973 and then you grow out of short pants and discover the real truth - the truth about USA funding hitler to power and paying for his German war machine entirely , a very similar scenario as they have done with Ukraine now actually . - THAT AMERICA.

[@craigleslie7615]

This movie is absolute crap compared to the original. Rediculous CGI effects of battle scenes make it unwatchable. Do yourself a favour and Please watch Tora Tora Tora and the original Midway instead

[@alexelmaleh3076]

This is some goddamn shitty exposition dialogue

[@murakami99]

Dreadfully wooden script.

[@derta8213]

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[@TeddyRumble]

And of course, we cut off the Japanese supply of oil and rubber. Sanctions do not always work. Look at Russia in Ukraine.

[@fishingismydrug1]

It’s a good thing history never repeats itself!

[@TeddyRumble]

@@fishingismydrug1 LOL.

[@MrCantStopTheRobot]

Russia & Ukraine are both burning...

[@Harry-tb8yo]

How did US sanctions against Japan not work? And how do the sanctions against Russia not work? And if they don't have an effect at all there is no reason to lift them.