WTF Happened to Battlestar Galactica? (1978)

When people think of BATTLESTAR GALACTICA nowadays, they think of the fracking amazing 2000's Sci-Fi Channel show starring Edward James Olmos and Katee Sackhoff. However, it was actually a remake of a short-lived but much-loved 1970's TV series that came out at the height of STAR WARS mania. Developed by Glen A. Larson, the show made its debut in 1978, with a pilot that was so well received it was released theatrically in Canada and Europe. Unfortunately, despite initial solid ratings, the show was all but canceled after the first season, only returning in a much-compromised form for GALACTICA 1980, a show most fans tend to pretend never existed. Join us as we dig into the phenomenon surrounding the original show, which starred the late Lorne Greene & Richard Hatch, plus THE A-TEAM's Dirk Benedict. "By your command."
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[@JoBloOriginals]

Hey guys! This episode was made from suggestions from fans who emailed us demanding this show be covered. If you want to make suggestions for future episodes of GBNF then e-mail [e-mail] and maybe we’ll cover your show!

[@ashroskell]

Edge of Darkness, a Mel Gibson film, that did badly because of one (unfeeling) line in the hero’s script that marred his character, and ruined the movie for so many, was based on an original 1980’s BBC TV series, that was unusual in having a Hollywood cast for its main stars. Both tell essentially the same story and the movie was highly underrated in my opinion. Would love to know if you saw either and if you would cover those?

[@p.c.windhamparanormalroman4339]

I will have to completely disagree with you about BSG 2004. It sucked, the religious fanaticism and touchy feely drama relegated it to a soap opera in space. The space battle scenes were alright but were NOT equal to Star Wars and the characters sucked.

[@fcsuper]

The Finale has grown on me. I see it much differently now that when I first saw.

[@davinasitaram]

I will definitely!

[@CarlJohnson-kk4pr]

As a Jew, ALL Religion's stole from Judaism, Joseph Smith was no Exception, he took A GREAT Deal of Our Ancient Hebrew Writings as did the Greeks, who Stole Our written Torah and Oral Torah and twisted to their Benefit as did Joseph Smith, I Know ALL about what he did, No Original Idealogies, just steel from a Way of Life and development from it and bad religion and people who don't do any of Their Own Research, Buy into It. Mormonism is a idealogy sterling from HASHEM'S Ancient Hebrew Writings Given to Rabeinu Moshe at Mount Sinai. Shalom Chayim Avarshinah Rom Neshrah Ben Avraham Yahudah

[@wstine79]

My favorite episode was the one where the Galactica and other ships ran into the lost Battlestar Pegasus. Seeing Lourne Greene with Lloyd Bridges was excellent.

[@edwardbloecher4563]

Living Legend was episode title I believe

[@Revkor]

yes a much better Commander Kain

[@edwardbloecher4563]

Lloyd Bridges a class act all the way. 🙂

[@GuilePatrick]

Damn I loved that episode...

[@trhansen3244]

That was called The Lost Legend. Two parter. Introduced Sheiba into the series, who was played by Ann Bancroft.

[@jonathanross149]

It still has one of the greatest theme songs.

[@bigdeal6852]

Also greatest aircraft fighters....on both sides. The robot Cylons were one of the best looking and convincing. 👍

[@KellicTiger]

I love that the new BSG used the theme song, slightly tweaked by Bear McCreary, as the Colonial Anthem.

[@videomediamtl997]

Don’t forget « Let’s Groove Tonight » sung by Earth Wind and Cylons

[@richardtracy8242]

Loved the Beautiful Orchestral Music of Battlestar Galactica.

[@dirkjewitt5037]

battlestar galactica never seemed like a Star Wars rip off to me. I loved it as a kid.

[@RictusHolloweye]

The similarities were only superficial. One would have to be actively looking for any resemblance.

[@rach5516]

Completely agree, Lucas was trying to fight off any competition.

[@T1625-w7d]

John Dykstra worked on special effects on Star Wars A New Hope left for Battle Star Galactic. He was in charge of visual effects on BSG.

[@jaybee9269]

I enjoyed it so much as well.

[@scottmccloud9029]

Agreed!

[@jonathanross149]

You didn't talk about Dirk Benedict 2nd show, The A-Team. It's intro featured a Cyclon crossing and Benedict pointing with a questioning look.

[@bigguy130]

If I recall, it was Dirk who asked to use the Cylon in the scene of the A-Team and he had to fight for it to get it in there, because there was some initial pushback against it. Glad Dirk succeeded because it was a pleasant surprise for me as a kid seeing that.

[@MrFox619]

Galactica 1980 has one AND I MEAN ONE good episode: THE RETRUN OF STARBUCK where the aforementioned has to befriend a cylon to survive while being stranded on a remote planet. It’s still my favorite episode of all Galactica lore. Definitely recommend watching.

[@putinscat1208]

Have you watched it lately? It looks like The Odd Couple, and silly gags. Cylon - "DID I DO THAT?"

[@BlokeOnAMotorbike]

there was a fan edit of that episode - it might still be on youtube - that ended with Starbuck taking the baby in the rebuilt pod and finding the fleet. Way more satisfying ending that what we got ("Oh I know, I'll shoot this child into space alone on the offchance that the fleet lies in any of infinite directions with no practical way of alerting the fleet to its presence without also alerting the Cylons.")

[@jadejewel6586]

@@BlokeOnAMotorbike I would love to see that, do you know what it was called or how to find it?

[@CptBerns]

Are you kidding me? The double episode prior to this one were the best Galactica episodes ever: The Night the Cylons Landed!

[@richardtracy8242]

The Starbuck Episode was Inspired by the Film-Hell In the Pacific, About a US Soldier and a Japanese Pilot who were Stranded on a Desert Island and had to work together in order to survive. It Starred Lee Marvin and Toshiro Mifune.

[@sargonsblackgrandfather2072]

Didn’t know Richard Hatch turned down Battlestar 1980. He didn’t go on to have a great career nor was he rich so he could only have turned it down because he recognised it was a betrayal of the original series. That’s character and that’s why he so loved and respected by true fans. R.I.P in the stars Apollo.

[@isaiahsmith7123]

He was an amazing and personable person, and loved the fans so much. I remember a few comic cons going to just hang out with him, because he just made you feel like you were the only person in the room.

[@philfitnesspt6139]

Dirk Benedict also turned it down basically apollo and starbuck became troy.and Dillon. I get their reasons but shame as think their acting along would have improved the series (still poor but at least same.cast you recall) still at least Benedict did one episode.

[@UncleTerry]

@@philfitnesspt6139 Glad Dirk Benedict turn down Battlestar Galactica 1980, Because then we would not have had the legendary "Face" character of "The A Team"

[@HerrEllsworth]

@@philfitnesspt6139 One piece of trivia: Dirk did do one episode of Gal '80 but only because there was a backpack he wanted in a locker at Universal Studios. When the series was initially canceled, Benedict wasn't allowed back onto the studio so he got the chance to get it back with this episode.

[@vincewilson1]

Galactica 1980 was total CRAP! I was a teenager at the time and it was nothing like Loren Green's show. By the way, I heard that Loren Green Imagined the show in the first place so it's no surprise that he was asked to play Adama. It was probably the success of the Ben Cartwright character that got the studio to look at the idea in the first place.

[@danielwilliamson6180]

Battlestar Galactica 1978 was such a classic sci-fi series. I liked it premise "What if there was another race of humans that lived out there beyond the stars and they fought a race of robots bent on their extermination?". I liked the Cylon Centurions and admired their design and they reminded me of Roman Centurions. The cast had good chemistry. The late Lorne Greene was the perfect actor to play Commander Adama and he was the heart of the series. It was a real shame Jane Seymour decided to leave Battlestar Galactica. When her death scene was filmed, the entire cast was crying for real and Richard Hatch was really frustrated with her decision to leave. I admit my favourite Batttlestar episode was "The Lost Warrior" cos I thought it was a good plot and it predates the 80s cartoon "Bravestarr". Such a shame it was discontinued after only 1 season and it was a shame it didn't get a proper finale. We ended up getting the short lived sequel series Galactica 1980 set many years after Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica was one of the greatest sci-fi TV shows ever made.

[@putinscat1208]

It 'inherited' all the Star Wars effects. It looked damn good.

[@ScrapKing73]

The final episode of Galactica 1980 is mandatory viewing, IMO. It’s (inexplicably) actually set in the original (1978) continuity and focuses on Starbuck becoming marooned on a planet, and out of desperate loneliness he repairs and attempts to befriend a cylon that was also shot down and is now marooned with him.

[@bufordt.justice1539]

BSG 1978 was VERY special to my family. I was the step-son to one of the producers that produced the show and I actually spent a large amount of time on the various BSGs filming sets. I got to know Lorene Greene, who became like a 3rd father to me, Dirk Benedict, who was VERY funny and quite a jokester OFF camera!! He kept ALL of us in stitches, he was so funny!! He also was a great person OFF camera too. I fell in love with Laurette Spang, who was so kind and friendly to me off camera. Richard Hatch was far more serious, but still was a good person too - he was like a big older brother to me! John Colicos was AWESOME off camera!!! All these people were like FAMILY to me!! And because the set filming was always stopping a great deal while my step-dad and others worked and changed this and that (most people have no idea how complicated it is to film a project like this), we all got to know one another. I also remember going into the editing room. What a mess!! It seem like every film shot was done by so many cameras because I remember a lot of tv screens showing endless amounts of TVs frozen on this angle or focused on that line or “specimen”. The actors certainly did an amazing job performing the scripts but it was HERE, in the editing rooms, both on set and back at the studios, that truly “created” the BSG show. I can tell you that great effort was made NOT to copy Star Wars. But that was a tall order!! At that time, Star Wars DOMINATED everything that had anything to do with space. And everyone was “Star Wars Crazy”, seeing something about the Star Wars movie in everything. Hell, the decision to keep BSG out of the theater and only on TV was ALSO in an attempt to NOT be like Star Wars. But I’m just not sure, at that time, it was even possible. With the success of SW, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, and other movies and tv shows, ALL with a focus about outer space, the BSG studios had just as much right to exist as SW did! Space programs is what the general public wanted to see at that time!! But the BSG family will ALWAYS be special to me! You know, somewhere in my storage of boxes, I still have some gold colored “dagits” (BSG money) from the original BSG movie set where Hatch and Benedict played cards. I also have a deck of the “rounded” playing cards too that they used. And, I still have one of the Viper Warrior brown leather suede jackets that the team wore. I’m not exactly sure WHO wore the jacket I have, but it still exists. Today, I proudly wear it every now and then just to see how many people still recognize the jacket. Oh!! How I miss that family. Sure, the politics were high (luckily back in those days I was too young to understand them and my step-father did a GREAT job to hide me from all that anyway!!) but the rewards were worth it… I watched the production of many, many, series… The Gene Kelly Special, Donna Summer Hollywood Bowl Special, etc., and I’ve met many actors and actresses along the way (some good and some bad) but BSG was different. We were on something NEW and DIFFERENT!! Now, with the rapid development of AI, I believe the show is making the transition from Sci-fi to fact!! Today, in real life, we are seeing the ancestors of the FIRST CYLONS born (or I should say built). Listen to what very smart people like Elon Musk and the Late Stephen Hawkins have both said about the development of AI and robotic development!! I now believe that in real life, true and actual CYLONS are coming and unless the human race does the right thing, we will risk a war for our destruction by the Cylons if we are not careful. BSG and The Terminator movie share a great deal in premise. Much more needs to be done to heavily regulate AI to ensure that does not happen. Sounds crazy, I know. But all science based stuff usual does before it is fact!…

[@RichO1701e]

"Richard Hatch went onto be heavily involved with the franchise even after the show was gone with writing books" - -- - - - - but no mention that he also appeared in the 2003 version as Tom Zarek??

[@mattblom3990]

Probably the new series most complex character. Zarek was great.

[@Philbert-s2c]

@@mattblom3990 I never cared for Hatch as an actor until he showed up on the BSG reboot. He was fantastic as Zarek.

[@mattblom3990]

@@Philbert-s2c Yeah, funny you say that. My mom grew up with the original series and got me into BSG 2004 and I asked her yesterday "Didn't you like want to marry Richard Hatch or something?!?!" And she goes "I mean he was kind of cute but boring in the original series." That sums it up, whereas Zarek you were always wondering what he was up to because he was written so well.

[@johnbockelie3899]

That explains why their warrior helmets had an ancient Egyptian look.

[@marpsr]

Also as the Klingon General in Prelude to Axanar

[@TheRedKobra]

The original series was brilliant. The cylons were terrifying as a kid.

[@richardtracy8242]

"By Your Command !"

[@petermcgill1315]

Liked the initial premise, but it was the remake that really hit it out of the park. It surpassed all my expectations (granted, low) when I heard it was given a do over.

[@aylmer666]

Even though the show gets bogged down by reusing a lot of FX shots (even obvious to juvenile viewers) and plenty of dud episodes, it has 4-5 episodes that stand as some of the best sci-fi TV of the 70’s. I especially appreciated the end episode where they meet Lloyd Bridges as the captain of another Battlestar and he goes on this amazing death ride to draw the cylons away, taking out many baseships with him (though it’s up to interpretation if the other battlestar gets away or not). I think it wonderfully left the door open to an even better second season, which didn’t happen in favor of the garbage Galactica 80, which had only one decent episode that was like a proto-ENEMY MINE with Starbucks and a Cylon trapped on a planet together. The best most of us can do after finishing BSG is to go and watch the first few episodes of “Buck Rogers”, which reuses a lot of sets, props, and sound effects from BSG and in many ways feels like a (albeit more kitschy and comedic) spiritual sequel.

[@exidy-yt]

This is creepy. With different wording, you touched on exactly everything I had planned to say, right down to Buck Rogers with the first season feeling like a spiritual spin-off. (The Plot to kill a City is one of the best episodes of any TV SF show of all time imo.)

[@edwardbloecher4563]

I agree with your entire post except Living Legend with Lloyd Bridges IS NOT THE END EPISODE.

[@edwardbloecher4563]

The end or final Episode was entitled Hand Of God not Living Legend.

[@STSWB5SG1FAN]

@@edwardbloecher4563 It's strangely coincidental that the best episodes of BattleStar:GALATICA (both original and extra-crispy😏🤭😂) both revolve around the discovery of the second battlestar to survive the Cylon War(s).

[@edwardbloecher4563]

@@STSWB5SG1FAN Lol Extra Crispy lol . Perfectly described Sir!! :)

[@CaptainRetroStation]

As a child of the 70's, I can tell you that EVERY kid wanted a Muffit! Are you KIDDING ME?! That robot dog was AWESOME! In the wake of "Star Wars" (and long before home video was mainstream), having a show that was "kinda' like" Star Wars was every kids DREAM! I never missed an episode! Until... ... yeah... "Galactica 1980"... total embarrassment. I had a friend at the time who asked, "wouldn't it be cool if Star Wars happened here on Earth?" Well, Galactica '80 shut that idea up, right quick. I frakking LOVED the reboot series! The ending was a little disappointing, but I can't say that I've been bothered to think up of a better one. The show was good enough that the weak ending didn't spoil it all for me. And, no... don't do another reboot. Please. Can we stop suckling off the dried teat of old properties, please? Ugh.

[@jonathanross149]

I'm with you as a fellow 70's kid. Muffit was awesome.

[@figglebop]

TEAM MUFFIT!!!

[@sargonsblackgrandfather2072]

Muffin was great, it was Boxey that sucked.

[@jonathanross149]

@@sargonsblackgrandfather2072 I can get behind that.

[@edwardbloecher4563]

I bought the action figure. It was the closest I could get to having a Muffit lol

[@GF_Baltar]

Here's a BSG/Lost in Space connection: Jonathan Harris (who portrayed Dr. Smith) provided the voice of "Lucifer", Baltar's Cylon henchman.

[@edwardbloecher4563]

Danger Baltar Robinson Danger! Lol

[@edwardbloecher4563]

Prior to the he and James Doohan were on Saturday mornings with Filmation's Space Academy.

[@metv2363]

Another BSG/Lost in Space connection: June Lockhart, who played Maureen Robinson, is the mother of Anne Lockhart, who played Lt. Sheba.

[@robzilla730]

@@edwardbloecher4563 Harris took over for Jimmy D when he left tofilm ST:TMP

[@edwardbloecher4563]

@@robzilla730 Ah that adds up. Lol Cool.

[@rogvortex58]

I loved the original series. It really ended too soon.

[@vesavius]

Nah. By the time they set it on Earth it was over.

[@rogvortex58]

@@vesavius the original series wasn’t set on Earth. You’re talking about Galactica 1980. Which was just a bad idea.

[@zachhoward9099]

@@rogvortex58I wished they had expanded on the Terra plot line a little bit, hell it would’ve been better if they had taken a little more time off and had a crossover with Buck Rogers where Galactica finds a 25th Century Earth that while advanced needs help in ensuring they’re prepared to fight off the Cylons

[@johnw8578]

I remember my mom buying the toy ships at Kmart for me (after much begging). She said: "How do you know if you like these, the show hasn't started yet." And I replied: "Yes, I like it already!"

[@charlesking1438]

Starbucks great adventure was the only gem to come out of Galactica 1980

[@Mercutioswrath]

I couldnt agree more.

[@sargonsblackgrandfather2072]

I agree but wasn’t the episode called The Return of Starbuck?

[@teknizian]

That episode was too little, too late. But man, it was glorious! The 1980 BSG overall is just ass.

[@Paul_1971]

Great episode!

[@Whalewraith]

Literally the only thing I remember out of the entire run. If G 80 was the actual show rather than a spin off it would ve totally forgotten.

[@StephenLeGresley]

Please do an episode for Babylon 5. So under appreciated and deserving of recognition.

[@white-dragon4424]

It was far better than the 2000's BG series.

[@JK-Visions]

@@white-dragon4424 yes but uncomparable.

[@white-dragon4424]

@@JK-Visions If they didn't want to have it compared with the original why call it Battlestar Galactica? Why not have it based on something new, or was it that cr@p that they had to rely on the name to sell it?

[@spencerstevens2175]

It wasnt available for streaming until recently. Now its on every freaking platform. Expect it to have a new following soon.

[@AlexJones-ue1ll]

B5 is the grand daddy of modern television. Producers being fine with story arcs lasting a season or the whole show? You can thank B5 for that, because it paved the way away from episode contained story telling a la Star Trek (which still can have amazing stories) to over arching stories that last years. B5 made it not only viable, but also amazing.

[@robwalsh9843]

There was so much potential for this show. I feel like it was sort of the Firefly of its time.

[@wjgolden0830]

BSG was awesome... until they found Earth. Buck Rogers was awesome... until they LEFT Earth. Coincidence? Or Glen Larson? You decide.

[@DCMarvelMultiverse]

Yeah. Larson was no longer showrunner when those decisions happened.

[@wjgolden0830]

@@DCMarvelMultiverse So... absence of Larson. Which relates to Larson. So... not coincidence, but Larson.

[@edwardbloecher4563]

Lol I never thought about that. The Earth factor. That's true though. When one found Earth thae othe left and then they sucked lol. Except the Space Vampire Episode on Buck Rogers and The Return of Starbuck on Galactica 1980.

[@wjgolden0830]

@@edwardbloecher4563 That Vorvon episode was amazing.

[@philfitnesspt6139]

@@edwardbloecher4563 actually the space vampire was in first season not second

[@Aearonjer]

Original was fantastic, especially watching it in the late 70's early 80's. That red eye along with the knight rider scanner spawned entire industries for reproductions. Thanks Mr Larson.

[@robertleeluben]

The Galactica is the first ship I ever saw that made any kind of sense, it had redundant well defended systems and a reasonable launch recovery mechanism. I was so psyched for the network premier that I sat down in front of the TV 2 hours early and waited. Later on I got to see the theatrical version (In Sensurround!) which is amazing and really should be seen if the chance presents itself. I'm a big fan of the reboot series too, it was so well written that I couldn't believe they got it onto television. I do like certain elements from the original series more, especially the Cylon origin, but I'd have to be dead not to see how much excellence they brought to bear on the reboot.

[@tiranis666]

Galactica 1980 had a theatrical release here in the UK, I remember going to see it as a kid with my Dad at the cinema

[@LaurenMiddleton28]

My dad loved/Loves the 80's Buck Roger's. William "Buck" Rogers was definitely my favorite. Also Colonel Wilma Dearing was Smoking hot beautiful. Although Buck Rogers jumped the shark when they brought in the bird dude.

[@shallendor]

Buck Rogers was so fun and Erin Grey as Wilma Deering was so drop dead gorgeous!

[@salaciousone]

My name is hawk! Yes my spaceship has talons so that I can grab your spaceship!

[@oregonguy13]

Though as a little bit I LOVED Hawks ship and the character, he was like a cross between Spock and Chewbacca. My friends all dug him, though kinda corny now.

[@edwardbloecher4563]

Actually Buck Rogers was 1979

[@richardtracy8242]

Wilma Deering was already Buck's Sidekick. They didn't really need Featherhead or Whatever he was called to replace her. Besides, The Writers didn't even know what to do with him on the Show.

[@michaelfisher7170]

Larson downplayed the inclusion of Mormon theology in the show, but it is definitely there. The episode where it is most apparent is "The War of the Gods", where the fleet encounters the mysterious "Count Iblis", wonderfully portrayed by the late Patrick Macnee. The LDS concepts of free will, fallen/adversarial "angels", eternal progression (the idea that gods evolve from mortal men), and the conflict between light and darkness are front and center throughout the story. In addition the "Council of Twelve", the ruling "congress" of the colonies, is a direct copy of the Mormon church's General Authority's quorum. "Kernel of truth" is an understatement. Never bothered me though. Creators use what they know when they craft a fictional world, and BSG in all its forms has always been one of my favorites.

[@michelemartin7673]

The Mormon influences are also very, very evident in "The Return of Starbuck", which is the only watchable episode of Galactica:1980.

[@michaelfisher7170]

@@michelemartin7673 Galactica 1980 was a travesty from the get go. But you're right about the Return of Starbuck episode. I remember watching it and pining for the original series again.

[@trickponystudios]

The original is still superior because despite its flaws, it has had a long lasting impact on the sci-fi series that followed it and it created legions of fans without which there would have been no reboot.

[@j.vonhogen9650]

I never watched the series' reboot, because I didn't want to ruin my childhood memories with an inferior imitation of the original. Many people seem to love the reboot though. Maybe I should give it a try anyway, if I can find it on DVD or BluRay.

[@trickponystudios]

@@j.vonhogen9650 I think of it and pretty much any reboot as an alternate timeline or a what could have been. I enjoyed it for what it was, a cool sci-fi series with a compelling story.

[@j.vonhogen9650]

@@trickponystudios - Nice. I should probably check it out then. Thanks!

[@karenhall4645]

I still think the characters in the original were much more likeable than in the reboot though.

[@philfitnesspt6139]

@@j.vonhogen9650 i tried but it.was just to depressing and the space fights are boring compared to original...turbos...cylon ships dog fights way better in original show. And music was better in original

[@NathanWind99]

Those toys were dope! I still have a Cylon Raider to this day. The missiles are long gone, I never considered until today that maybe some kid choked on them.

[@j.vonhogen9650]

Just ask your parents if you ever had a twin brother. Maybe they will finally tell you the real story about those missing missiles. 😞

[@GF_Baltar]

"It was beautifully written, with compelling characters, conspiracies, and shocking revelations." So say we all!

[@paulw6057]

Count me out of the 'we'.

[@p.c.windhamparanormalroman4339]

@@paulw6057 Same here. It was a soap opera in space not an action adventure the way it was supposed to be.

[@doublep1980]

Until the writers turned it from a gritty military Sci-Fi into a dumb, pseudo-religious/mystisicm soap-opera. The final explanation on why all happened is literally: ''It was God's plan.''

[@GF_Baltar]

@@doublep1980 Yes, I have to agree with you. The final episode was a huge disappointment (not a Game of Thrones level disaster, but still deeply unsatisfying).

[@morrielarsen]

I don't understand people who were let down by the finale, I think it's one of the best endings to a TV show ever.

[@billm7447]

this guy is nuts. the original BSG was one of the biggest shows on TV back in 1978 - the premier was a giant event. the newer BSG had a good "cable-ish" following, which this guy was obviously part of.

[@richardtracy8242]

I remember Universal Commissioned Famed Fantasy Artist Frank Frazetta to Paint Posters Based on the Show So That They Could Use Them For Promotions and Advertising. They Went All Out To Publicize Battlestar Galactica.

[@shallendor]

Both of the Battlestar Galactica series were great! Galactic 1980 had one great episode (What Happened to Starbuck), and it should be watched!

[@UncleTerry]

Agree That one episode was the only good thing that came out of Battlestar Galactica 1980

[@CptBerns]

Watch The Night the Cylins Landed instead, much better

[@richardtracy8242]

@@CptBerns The Night the Cylons Landed was interesting in that It was the first episode to introduce the Idea of a Human Looking Cylon. By the way, One of the Actors in that episode was William Daniels, The Voice of KITT on Knight Rider.

[@CptBerns]

@@richardtracy8242 I know. There's even a scene in which Daniels and a Cylon sit in a car. That's the voice of KITT, the scanner of KITT in the body of KITT (a car). 😂🤣😂

[@chrisblaine1669]

I attended the 25th anniversary BSG convention in LA back in 2003. All of the surviving cast members attended, even Patrick MacNee! Jane Seymour missed her flight. Really cool but Ron Moore showed up who was developing the new series. Fans asked questions like if the original people would be in it. Ron said that he wouldn’t do that and that he doesn’t care what the fans think about his new series. He didn’t care what the original fans wanted or their input. So going in to watch the new series, I had some reservations already. I tried to get into it but I just couldn’t. Love the original though. I was also happy to see Hatch come back for a small roll.

[@victorlombardi1149]

"he doesn’t care what the fans think about his new series" ; what an assh.le ! He would have done better not to ruin the name and bother the fans, and create the new series he had in mind with its new name, not BSG.

[@sethkaicer319]

I truly miss being invaded by cylons on a weekly basis.

[@boowiebear]

I miss being invaded by Tricia Helfer too.

[@sethkaicer319]

@@boowiebear thank you Tyler. My father just passed away I appreciate your kindness

[@weltvonalex]

@@sethkaicer319 you are welcome, I hope my like helps You

[@graveyardshift1217]

I'm gonna easily show my age here lol, but I LOVED this show and couldn't wait for the next episode. P.S. 1980 sucked!

[@JoBloOriginals]

Indeed!

[@curlysue1134]

I only liked the last episode, Return on Starbuck. The rest of 1980 was terrible, I agree.

[@vincewilson1]

It didn't just stink. It rolled over, died, and began to stink like rotting flesh!

[@ArnellaMaturin]

The last episode of battle star 1980 haunted me for 30 years because poor Starbuck was left alone on a planet. But then I learned that the first episode planned for the next season made him an ascended being.

[@vivsavage13]

I watched this show rerunning in the early 80's. I absolutely loved it. It was on Saturday nights at 7pm. I never missed it as a young kid. 👍

[@s.patrick6136]

Man I wanted a Viper pilot uniform sooo bad. That jacket was awesome. BSG is still one of my favourite shows to binge watch.

[@mrcead]

This was my show back when I was a kid and Starbuck was Face in space and I loved the meta nod in the A-Team episode S2E10 when the Cylon walked past him, story goes Dirk Benedict saw a guy in a Cylon suit at Universal Studios, asked the director to shoot a scene with him, director said no, he did it anyway and the rest is history🤣

[@sd-11-11-sd]

Used to love this show in my youth was on around late morning/early afternoon on Saturdays in the UK. Who can forget the heart rendering episode of Face man befriending the cyclone when they are trapped in isolation?

[@luisrosado9772]

17:55 I always think that Dr Zee was the lost child of John Denver

[@richardtracy8242]

He was played by Cousin Oliver from the Brady Bunch.

[@benerval7]

Rick Springfields roll as Zac was good. He died in the first episode. That set up the entire attack.

[@AshenTechDotCom]

the thing that got me with this was, how the new version could have, imho learned alot from the original, that sense of fun, wonder, enthusiasm... stuff they just.. cant seem to do these days.

[@rofyle]

Because the people they have hired to write the new stuff do not know how to write fantasy and science fiction. They only know how to deconstruct narratives. They are hired not on the basis of talent, but rather on the basis of race and gender. Hence, everything now is about deconstructing everything down to race and gender.

[@JohnBigboot]

Exactly. It wasn't so dismal and emasculating all the time which is why I'll always prefer the original, flaws and all.

[@djwille88]

@@rofyle bingo! The new one sucked!

[@richardtracy8242]

I gave up on the Revamped Battlestar Galactica only after a few episodes.

[@johnmcgrath3466]

Commentor Captain Retro Station stimulates a good point. 1977 Star Wars was released, the next movie took 3 years to come out and Star Trek, at the time, was just not filling the void Star wars created. Battle Star Galactica was a welcome fix for the SCI-FI junkies, (like myself) that George Lucas created.

[@olympicnut]

There are many ways to bring back Battlestar Galactica. The reimagined series was not the end all to the story of BSG.

[@Revkor]

especially the later half. i dropped the show not logn after the new caprica arc

[@trhansen3244]

God no. I can only imagine how horrifying a new woke BSG would be.

[@richardtracy8242]

Wouldn't mind an Attempt at a Battlestar Galactica Feature Film.

[@robert6007]

TIL Star Wars invented headscarves, helmets, and explosions.

[@ivane5110]

Whoa! Obscure? Forgotten? I had no idea. Me and my buddies eagerly waited every week for Battlestar Galactica. Had the action figures and every issue of the sadly short-lived comic series. And actually as epic as Star Wars was (I can still remember the goosebumps I got seeing it opening week, despite only seeing it because my planned movie was sold out), I was a more of a Battlestar fan. Starbuck is still one of my favorites. And Colons one of my top robots. Just wish Rick Springfield has stayed. I knew the modern one had been popular when it was on, but didn't realize it's actually more well know. Still, from what I've seen, it doesn't disrespect mine and is actually a worthy successor (one of the few times I can say that of a reboot).

[@neumi569]

I as Star Wars fan never saw Galactica as Star Wars clone. It was made with the same technology level at the same time, so of course the designs were also quite similar and having an evil empire as enemy was also quite common these days. But I thought it was rather unique, the setting was quite different.

[@GtheMVP]

I used to speak into my fan and say "I am a Cylon", doubt I was the only one. I loved this series and and BSG, such an amazing sci-fi world. It was ground breaking for tv as well, there was nothing like it until Babylon 5.

[@erikkunkle9574]

It was an aircraft carrier in space. And it worked like an aircraft carrier. That's why I liked it.

[@mrbigdave1972]

I was 6 when this came out and it was the greatest thing ever 😎 and the theme music is still epic

[@stevenlornie1261]

Great television show. It's a bit tacky by today's standards but at the same time, television doesn't have the positivity and enthusiasm that this show has. It's a fun watch.

[@JMyoutube1]

Tacky? How so?

[@stevenlornie1261]

@@JMyoutube1 lol are you kidding? It's the late '70s. The giant hair. The beige/brown out fits. The disco aura of some of it. The dated visuals (that gets constantly re-used). Dated and tacky.

[@trhansen3244]

Nothing is tackier than the garbage we see on tv today. Not one good show worth watching.

[@jezcartner4104]

I loved this as a kid in the 70s and I love it still

[@c1ph3rpunk]

BSG2K3 is perhaps one of the best modern sci-fi shows around. It was a great to meet a new millennium, and is sad how far things have fallen since then. I grew up on OG BSG and really didn’t give 2K3 a chance at first. By the middle of season one though, I was hooked.

[@RoodeMenon]

Rick Springfield was in Battlestar Galactica? I didn't know that.

[@johnellizz]

shouldn't have killed him off. Battlestar Galricktica.

[@edwardbloecher4563]

For about a minute lol

[@johnellizz]

@@edwardbloecher4563 The BEST minute of the series. Battlerick Galactafield.

[@edwardbloecher4563]

Lol Well I liked more than just that minute. I was 11 in rural Wisconsin with no cable out in country. Battlestar on Sunday and Buck Rogers on Thursdays were all I had lol.

[@johnellizz]

@@edwardbloecher4563 Both shows had one good season. And then a follow-up season that was goofy!

[@weslymathis3004]

I was so excited to see the first opening episode, but ABC news interrupted the broadcast. President Carter brokered the Middle East Peace Accords and they covered that instead. By time the show came back on over a hour was messing during the middle of the show. I never got to see it.

[@edvaira6891]

Prior to the revival show, the longest lasting legacy of the original Battlestar Galactica was the live “show” that was the concluding three minutes of the Universal Studios Tram Tour for about five years in the early 1980’s

[@strayblackcatsmeow]

I remember that there was a program where you sent in so many coco puffs box tops and got a cardboard replica of the fighter cockpit controls. I may still have that tucked away somewhere.

[@flashrobbie]

I was 8 in 1978. Battlestar Galactica was awesome. Sometimes it's better to leave things in the memory, right, Star Wars?

[@davidguipre9662]

To be fair SW has a lunatic in charge trying to destroy it right now. So yeah it would suck

[@allenjones3130]

Richard Hatch died of cancer in 2017. May he rest in peace.

[@richardtracy8242]

Good Actor. Really loved him on the Streets Of San Francisco as well as Battlestar Galactica.

[@joerogers9413]

You missed Larry Manetti among the pilots. He played Rick on Magnum PI.

[@jayl878]

He was standing right next to GreenBean in the scene where they're about to throw the party.

[@UncleTerry]

@@jayl878 and Rick Springfield as Zac

[@trhansen3244]

What about Fred Astaire? Many people don't realize it but he was once considered the best dancer in the whole world.

[@joerogers9413]

@@trhansen3244 Yep. I've seen a couple of his movies with Ginger Rogers. They're pretty good.

[@robzilla730]

@@joerogers9413 TV blasphemy to not mention Rick/Larry!

[@Chris_Prime]

It was a huge mistake to cancel the original Galactica because it was enormously popular. How do I know? Because I was there when it first came out. It's all we ever used to talk about in school. We all loved that show.

[@MarkFoster321789]

It was far too expensive to continue with a price tag of one million dollars an episode, which was unprecedented for an hours’ worth of television. The original series was big, bold, and no doubt full of ideas for a potential second season, but unfortunately ABC got in their way demanding Glen A. Larson and Universal to make a weekly episodic series as opposed to a series of telefilms or miniseries for the next three years. A case of less is more in my personal viewpoint, and you can enjoy the series so much with the limited number of episodes we got and the films.

[@dhart28]

So, the question begs to be asked: How many T.V. shows that started out to be really good, or even great, were ruined by what the network execs wanted?

[@andrewharris7517]

I loved the original Series

[@alexhenderson1312]

I did too 👍 😉😎 I never got into GINO - totally unnecessary and overrated! There should have been a legitimate continuation of the original series! 🤔🤷‍♂️😒

[@andrewharris7517]

@@alexhenderson1312 Overrated is an understatement... The Original followed the pattern of Star Trek with various Ethic Groups and Genders.. The reboot changed those things unnecessarily. Dig it All this reality based nonsense in SiFi.,Comic book films and Horror has killed the Fun within the Genre. I want to visit Gotham City, Etc... I don't want Batman or Any other Fantastic character living next door to me.... Wellll maybe Spider Man because that's how it was created. Bogging these Universes down with reality just kills it for me.. Long Live the Originals... Dig it

[@richardtracy8242]

Galactic In Name Only Was Horrible.

[@DropBearAntix]

1. The original BSG was the best: no shakey-cam theatrics, storylines were less depressing and the show was great fun overall. 2. The craft designs were cool. Starbuck was cool. Tighe was cool. And Athena... was *hot*!! 3. Fred Astaire! No one thought *he'd* appear in a science fiction TV show, huh?

[@AlexJones-ue1ll]

the model of the original BS Galactica is just ... out of this world.

[@richardtracy8242]

Fred Astaire played Starbuck's Father.

[@billc.8569]

Loved this as a kid. I remember trying my best to watch all the episodes. When I was watching Galactica 1980, I missed one episode, the one with Starbuck. I was soooooo upset!

[@scorchogrey2385]

I was born in 75, so I was crazy young, but I wanted a Muffet. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I always wanted my hair cut like Starbuck or Faceman. Dirk Benedict’s hair…awesome. Great ensemble cast on this show. One of the best!!

[@laurapeter3857]

I watched the original series as a 4 and 5 year old with my father. The strength of the show was that it could be watched and enjoyed by all ages. RIP OG BSG.

[@richarddoan9172]

I watched the pilot movie on tv in 1978, but I remember it being interrupted by a speech from Jimmy Carter and the show returned still in progress. Anybody else remember that?

[@Fool3SufferingFools]

It was a news report on the Camp David accords. It’s the only time I’ve ever seen a network “pause” a show during an interruption and pick it up where it left off.

[@dirkjewitt5037]

We always knew it as Mormon Star Wars when I was a kid.

[@roguerifter9724]

1980 was a wreck from the beginning. When a sequel series starts by contradicting the finale of the previous series in a way that can't be easily explained and makes no effort to justify the contradiction its an incredibly bad sign. The Original Galactica;s finale involved them intercepting a garbled transmission which was stated to be ancient if it wasn't an echo of another transmission. The transmission was the Apollo 11 moon landing. Yet they arrive on Earth more then two decades later in the 1980s. Even if the transmission was actually an echo and they were in the Alpha Centauri system during the original finale they would have had to receive it before the landing took place.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

Well to be fair, "ancient" could always be interpreted as a judgement of the primitive technology level of Earth's 1969 Television transmissions... And the producers did not have much choice in setting the timeline as the "play it in the NOW times" to save costs was one of the conditions to even get a continuation for the series.

[@roguerifter9724]

Except Boomer was specifically talking about the transmission itself not the gear used to send it when he explained why it was so hard to narrow down a location and possible ages of the signal.

[@ncwordman]

Dude, the original Battlestar Galactica would not "have fallen into obscurity," or been forgotten. Nor has it been.

[@timothygregor9828]

I'm old enough to have watched both series, and I can safely say that the reboot was superior. Much as I enjoyed the original, the reboot ranks among the finest science fiction shows to ever play on mainstream television. The series ending of the reboot was utterly devastating, and I like it because it doesn't pull any punches or spoon feed the viewer a happy ending just to stick an easy landing.

[@johnernst8718]

I once wrote a script (I'm not a script writer) about one character that would bring together BSG, Star Trek NG, and Star Wars together to fight the combined forces of the Cylons, the Borg, and the Empire (there was still an Empire when I wrote it). A character based on The Highlander who lived long enough to find himself in a Special Operations Group of the Star Trek Universe, running around the Galaxy collecting technology that might otherwise be banned from The Federation, runs into a Jedi (future characters since Episode 9 would still be a LONG time ago). While forming alliances and exchanging tech, BSG finds Earth to warn them about the Cylons. Meanwhile, The Enterprise runs into the Borg. While the Borg are regrouping, they find, and assimilate, the Cylons. Chaos ensues.

[@shotgunfringe]

John Colicos was also the voice of Apocalypse in X-Men: The Animated Series back in the 90’s.

[@pitiedvod]

Zac gets blown up and at that exact moment a commercial about grilling starts. Bravo KZbin commercial algorithm.

[@tinkerkittyshow]

Having seen the original and then seeing that reboot I can definitely say the original was far superior. That and they didn't have to swear every other word. Even if they did try to mask it as frack this or frack that.

[@richardtracy8242]

Everyone in the Reboot Show was So Unpleasant and Unlikable.

[@paulw6057]

The Battlestar Galactica rejig was far too self-aware, I couldn't watch it without cringing.

[@creepycraiyons3519]

Started watching the remake with my fiancé who has never heard of it. She fell in love with it. Then she was like. Oh this is my favorite character and I was like. Yeah. This show was Game of Throning people before it was cool. Don’t get attached. BOOM. Half the pilots and her favorite died immediately. Lol Game of a thrones meets Star Wars is how she described it to a friend 😂

[@johnsheaman8057]

If y'all were old enough, you would know the Galactica fleet showed up in the 1800's in the modern historical time. Adama changed his name to Cartwright and assimilated into the local culture.

[@boblowes]

Mind you - I still want a flying motorcycle, thanks to Battlestar Galactica.

[@yaburnt9754]

The Cylon's space fighter was the bomb!!!

[@joeyrawls641]

Another Classic Added 👍 Could you do Jack Lord's Hawaii Five-O? That Would Be Awesome

[@seanbrazell6147]

As far as I'm concerned, that SYFY BSG series finale ends when starbuck punches in the coordinates for ***** and smashes the jump button. Everything AFTER that point is Sopranos-ish blackscreen NOPE.

[@RodgerRamjet]

i loved the original BSG in the 70s... cuz it was all we HAD.. and i wanted ANY Sci Fi.. but, it was also very good for its time, just never got the audience it deserved. yes, reboot is simply worlds better, loved every episode, and rewatched it a couple times when aired. I met Richard Hatch in a Trek Convention in Vegas in 2014.. the guy LOVED talking "shop" to fans, had no pretense at all about him, and once he started talking to you, he really wanted to TALK to you. just a first rate "Fan" of his fans, and loved his job. very sorry he passed away shortly after.

[@KatrinaLeFaye]

Pretty sure the people who were glued to the TV when the Mini Series came out were the kids watching the originals on Saturday afternoon repeats.

[@TheEntilza]

No mention of Anne Lockhart's Sheba?

[@artboymoy]

Or the fantastic Lloyd Bridges? Not to mention Count Iblis played by Patrick McNee?

[@johnellizz]

@@artboymoy Count Iblis was the best story the show had.

[@richardtracy8242]

Patrick McNee also Narrated the Episodes.

[@georgemartin1436]

You mentioned something called "Galactica 1980". I'm afraid I NEVER HEARD of that and REFUSE to accept it...

[@johnrx9243]

I was maybe 15 when this show aired, just loved it. When I first heard it was canceled after just 1 season I was like how could this happen? Lol I was not laughing then but I was just pissed. Remember going to Universal Studios may a year or so after it was canceled and on the tram tour they drive you pass some of the larger props from the show, like rubbing salt into my wounds.

[@margevonmunchingindahausen]

I KNEW there was a whacky second series where they are riding weird bikes on earth and suddenly it wasn't a space show anymore, because I remember watching it! But for ages, I had no idea quite how it was both BSG and NOT BSG as when the reboot was launched it seemed that no one else remembered this weird second series! So glad to see this funny summary of the entire early franchise. Thank you.

[@T1625-w7d]

You missed Larry Manetti he played Miles. He was Orville Rick Wright in Magnum PI and Lt. Bob Boyle in Black Sheep Squadron.

[@CallsignEskimo-l3o]

George Lucas: BSG stole my idea! Frank Herbert: Hold my beer.

[@johnellizz]

Show was very watered-down by network suits and hampered by the stupid kid and the robot dog. Still it was good but could have been way more than it was. Star Wars ripped off this show - not the other way around. For example, the space-caravan only appears in Star wars after Galactica came out. The Gun On Ice Planet Zero was the basis for Hoth and the Ion cannon. Princess Leia's bun-hair was stolen from a 1974 TV pilot called "Planet Earth". Nothing in star wars was original. At 16:08 we see a scene from "Lost Planet Of The Gods" - a Galactica episode that Lucas ripped-off for "Raiders Of The Lost Ark".

[@williammitchell4417]

The absolute beauty of Galactica 1980, William Daniels guest starring 2 years previously to lending his voice to KITT 😁

[@DCMarvelMultiverse]

I loved the modern BSG ending. Full circle and mystery that made me want more.

[@johnellizz]

The ending was a flat-out total victory for the Cylons. They controlled earth with a hybrid bloodline that would dominate & enslave humans. Meanwhile the metal Cylons were 'Gods' presiding over earth from outerspace.

[@DCMarvelMultiverse]

@@johnellizz Don't think you actually watched the ending. Sounds you heard something out there in the ether and believed it. Far from a proven fact. The colonials, earthlings, and cylons made the modern human race while the Cylons vanished never to be seen again.

[@johnellizz]

@@DCMarvelMultiverse The ending does not depict the metal Cylons vanishing. And why would they vanish?? The humans end up on a known location (Earth) and disband and disarm themselves while allowing super hi-tech metal Cylons to operate in space above them. Clearly this is victory for Cylons, is it not? The hybrids are basically 'wolves in sheeps clothing' who will inevitably dominate the less intelligent normal humans by creating an aristocracy (ruling bloodlines of hybrids). The metal cylons will furnish the hybrids with everything they need to dominate human society and turn us into a slave culture for these metal 'gods' above us. Not a coincidence that the show was produced by 'David Eick' - a name similar to David Icke, the author who reveals that we are ruled by alien hybrids. By the way, did you notice that Felix Gaeta was supposed to be 'Jesus'? *He opposes making the deal with the Cylons and leads a non-violent revolt. *He surrenders himself to the authorities for execution. *Before his execution he claims to have been an architect. (Scholars claim Jesus was an architect.) *Just before his death, Felix gazes over at 'the thief' (Tom Zarek) and they smile at each other. The Cylons represent 666 and that's why the main Cylon character is called '6'. According to David Icke, 666 is the hybrid bloodline that dominates the world today and throughout history. (Also, Felix's missing right leg is a recurring theme of Jesus. In the Occult, Jesus allegedly was a limping man with an injured or missing right leg.)

[@DCMarvelMultiverse]

@@johnellizz You are on annoying troll. Fuck off.

[@homer1991]

@@johnellizzThats got to be some of the most stupidest reasoning I have ever read.

[@andrewyorke3352]

I loved the 1978 battlestar galactic better than the new one as I watched it with my Dad when I was young and the last time with my Dad in hospital before he past away RIP Dad

[@richardtracy8242]

My Condolences.

[@andrewyorke3352]

@@richardtracy8242 thank you

[@PierreaSweedieCat]

One of the greatest shows in history!

[@razor1uk610]

On a similar vein of a one series Sci-Fi show with a cocktail of good and iffy points throughout itself,.. *_Space: Above and Beyond_*

[@albusplaustrum06]

HEY! I loved Muffet 2 when I was a kid. LOL

[@carlobelton6857]

You missed out the random episode about Starbucks being stuck on a planet with a cylon. I believe it came after the end of the 1980’s series

[@carlobelton6857]

I should say it was a great video though!!!!

[@artboymoy]

That episode alone made me thankful for Galactica 1980. Very Enemy Mine pre Enemy Mine. I guess it's a take on a classic tale or theme.

[@carlobelton6857]

@@artboymoy completely agree with you

[@DarioRuellan]

I watched the original and the 1980 series, and this is the episode I remember the most. I was not aware it was part of the 1980 series.

[@carlobelton6857]

@@DarioRuellan It was the final episode of the 1980’s series and always stood out to me

[@jayemark708]

A hearty thank you to Glen🥰