Jobsite saw review

Going over a not-so-great jobsite saw. This one has qutie a few issues. I did get this saw as part of a sponsorship deal, so as a courtesy to the sponsor, I don't mention the brand.
I hope some of the stuff I point out about this saw will help you in terms of what to look for when shopping for a table saw.
More details on my website:
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[@MrGlockshna]

I personally don't agree with doing a "product review" without naming the product. There are some ethical issues with being known as someone who won't review a product badly. This makes it seem like you're the type of person who will gloss over minor issues so you don't have to withhold the name of the manufacturer, which defeats the purpose of a review. You even said yourself that at a certain achievable price this saw is worth purchasing. That's useless because we don't know what saw it is. Moreover, a company who sends you a product for review knows that there's a chance it won't get a good review. As long as you're fair about the issues you see that company should have no issues with you giving your honest opinion. If they do, they aren't an honest company that is worth advertising. I respect your choices here, I just disagree.

[@matthiaswandel]

If this was a saw you were even considering, you would easily identify which brand it is.

[@MrGlockshna]

That's beside the point. If I was searching for a review on this saw I wouldn't find your review pointing out it's flaws. I may find others, but at that point why did you even review it? And that doesn't even address the other issues I brought up. That's not to say I was expecting a response. Just voicing my perspective.

[@matthiaswandel]

I think you completely missed the point.

[@MrGlockshna]

+Matthias Wandel Maybe so. What was it? If the point was to inform people in what to look for in a jobsite saw, why not name the video as such?

[@BloodiedHorror]

Ethical issues with being known as someone who won't review a product badly? He just did that. Also, doing this proves that anything he does choose to do a real review on is something he genuinely likes, not something he is pretending he likes. Matthias just showed us a product he was sent to review, but refused to do so because it wasn't up to his standard. This way we know anything he shows us is getting a genuine endorsement by him. Matthias is not a review channel, but will review and endorse things that meet his standards, and this is just a case of something that did not, and he shows us why. If anything this increases the amount of respect I have for the guy, and I didn't even think that was possible.

[@PyroDanUK]

Protecting the brand because they previously sponsored you? I expected better from you, If they didn't want an honest review they should never of sent you the saw in the first place.

[@MegaMetinMetin]

PyroDanUK well he has already fullfilled his part of doing the video before. He said he didnt want to ruin the companys rep

[@thebeststooge]

Ill placed respect because there is something I learned a year, or so, ago is that all content creators are hookers for free stuff so I believe no reviews from any of them if they were given the tool. They will not bite the hand that feeds them tools/equipment.

[@kristofpucejdl]

Matthias did the honest review, most of us know the brand anyway and the rest can easily figure out. So this 'protecting' is really more of an symbolic act and I think it leaves clear message. Mentioning the brand could imply that other products from them are of the same quality region, which seemingly isnt true, so I completely understand why Matthias decided this way. Your complaint is far from being reasonable.

[@thebeststooge]

Krištof Pučejdl No, his complaint is very reasonable because if you are going to do a review you name names and show what is wrong with it or you lose any credibility as a reviewer. By doing what he did it means he doesn't want to hurt the hand that feeds him free stuff so his credibility is in the toilet. I don't know which company it is and a lot of people will not so as a reviewer he sucks and needs to go back to doing his other videos and leave the reviews to the proper people who buy the stuff to review so they are not beholding to anyone and can lay it all out there with names included.

[@MegaMetinMetin]

***** well you would do you same if you wanted some free tools

[@SuperAWaC]

Your dilemma is exactly why AvE uses his patreon money to buy all the tools he tears down, so he doesn't have to worry about calling companies out on their shit.

[@thebeststooge]

As much as I despise AvE that part he does right. If he would stop mangling the English language (when he first started he didn't do that) I would like his channel.

[@MaxMakerChannel]

Dark Alchemist thats what makes him funny! But for how long?

[@si.taze10]

Dark Alchemist that's exactly why I love that guy. He's not boring whatsoever. Imagine the humor you'd pick up on job sites in the wilderness for weeks at a time.

[@imabeapirate]

The English language is a sacred and unwavering method of communication, having stayed virtually the same for over ten thousand years. How dare anyone use the language the way they want!

[@thebeststooge]

***** OMG, it's Tom. :) Yeah, no sponsored reviews and why I love your channel. When you review you name names and lay it out there so much respect from me for you.

[@craigs831]

*shows delta* me : oh that looks like mine! matthais: these are just awful me: *face palm*

[@vernermurillo3151]

I got a Delta jobsite table saw last year, brand new it turned out to have a misaligned saw blade

[@AndrewKleinWW]

Seemed like a fair review.

[@Wordsnwood]

More than fair. If it's at all negative, it's negative to the entire category. This sort of saw should be reviewed by a framer or builder, not by someone who does precise woodworking in a shop.

[@seameus91]

Its like Matthias said: Its for builders (rough) cuts... Not for furniture makers or precision

[@thenextstepp]

soaringtractor if you're going to use it for rough framing it will get the job done. heck just go look at the lumber you get these days, at least here in central California finding a semi straight 2x is rare. My family has done rough framing since the 60s and my grandpa always swore by old school skilsaws and we had a massive DeWalt radial arm saw from the 50s or 60s.

[@halifaxmax5039]

When I was a kid I didn't know there was anything BUT a SkilSaw! Ours was hard to kill, even left in the rain. Recently I inherited some Skil brand tools. Factory misaligned! Pulleys that weren't round! I won't pay for a new Skil product ever again.

[@thenextstepp]

soaringtractor yeah the new skilsaws are not the same by a long stretch. All of our framers used skilsaws all the time. Like I mentioned before we didn't even have a table saw on site. Skilsaws and Hitachi nail guns were king in those days. I remember when the first paslode gun was delivered by the manufacturer, he brought out a couple prototypes and they didn't last an hour before the tips broke. We went through about 8 or 10 of them before they changed the design. It's really sad what's happened to the tool industry these days, a lot harder to get good lasting tools.

[@Bob_Burton]

I cannot understand why you didn't mention the brand. They sent it to you for review so they should be prepared for any fair criticism that you give it. If they never send you any more tools then so be it.

[@punkinvine1179]

Use your brain, he told where to find the name you dumbass.

[@Bob_Burton]

Thank you for your informative and considered reply. As he told viewers where to find the information then why cover it up and why not mention it ?

[@punkinvine1179]

UKHeliBob lol

[@PacificAtitude]

...so be it ? and who's gonna sponsor him, you? the content provided in this channel comes with a cost you know.

[@tryphontournesol427]

A west coast, I presume.

[@Patricksworkshop]

i think u forgot to do the scaffold drop to test its durability

[@Wordsnwood]

I think of the two, the one on the left would be more deserving of the scaffold test... but then that would be a waste of a perfectly good motor + switch + cord. Best safe the scaffold drop for stuff that is COMPLETELY unusable.

[@iambiggus]

I'm dumbfounded you all work on jobs that allow/use saws up on scaffolds, frankly. If ya'lls insurance isn't insane yet, it's about to be.

[@iambiggus]

Mark Price Roger that! As someone who has to deal with OSHA several times a year, that makes a lot more sense... Carry on!

[@secretweaponevan]

Matthias did a durability test on his homemade sawhorses by dropping things from a ladder onto them. I think that is what Patrick's Workshop is hinting at. ;)

[@SouthpawWorkshop]

My first saw was a jobsite saw. It served its purpose until I could afford a better saw. Thanks, Matthias for showing us what to look for when considering something at this price point. I think as far as jobsite saws go, so may be a little better, some a little worse, but you'll never get the type of precision you can out of good ol' table-mounted trunnions and a cast iron top.

[@HoldFastFilms]

I don't think this was a particularly bad review. It was brutally honest but that's what they need to hear and hopefully fix the things you mentioned.

[@nskmda]

fix? r u kidding me? they never do that... for a good reason.

[@troyna77]

actually it gave me several things to look for when i goto buy my own. i think it was a great review for that purpose but like anything you gotta not be afraid to tinker and understand how it works.

[@koneth21]

Sponsor's Spy behind the wall: Not going well, not going well. He finds everything wrong!! Sponsor HQs: RELEASE THE ERMINE!! RELEASE THE ERMINE!! DISTRACT HIM AT ALL COST!!

[@williamsmith9026]

koneth21 thats the best comment in this thread

[@catsshadows]

LMAO

[@COLDB33R]

It's a good thing it wasn't at sea. They would have RELEASED THE KRAKEN!!

[@KidVas1018]

This comment made my day

[@solodragun]

LMAO

[@thiefrules]

I would have said the company name. just because they give you free shiny things doesn't mean they should be immune to criticism. maybe they could use this video to make a better product and then send you the revised version to do a follow up?

[@rochat]

thiefrules - Given the colour and his most recent paid promo videos, it's not hard to find the brand if people are curious. Just go through his upload history.

[@benmesser7361]

criticism would be emailing them. publicly shaming them on youtube wouldn't help them much. he did good.

[@thiefrules]

+Ben Messer good point. maybe an email and if the product continues to be bad, then release the video?

[@woodsprout]

thiefrules, These days more than ever, the branding on a tool does not mean the Brand is the manufacturer.

[@squelchedotter]

I don't morally agree with not mentioning the company name because it's bad. If they ask you to review it, and it's bad, you should tell the world it's bad. It's a review, after all.

[@internetapocalypse4885]

Now that's what i call a review. Who cares about the table saw brand, the Matthias Wandel brand is more important.

[@jackmcslay]

The ermine shown up to complain you keep putting his food inside buckets

[@matthiaswandel]

I shot that a few weeks ago. Haven't caught a mouse in the shop since!

[@petercollin5670]

Matthias Wandel that's cool that he cured your mouse problem. I would imagine he's better than having a cat. He can slink around the places the mice hide.

[@driespottie]

You better feed him a little then! Some meat to keep him around for when the mouse population is too small.

[@JohnColgan.]

Matthias's Quote: "get the f..ker!!"

[@joecleveland6525]

For a saw that is presumably to be used for rough carpentry, I think they actually hit all the right points. Dust collection and cut quality are not as important as usability and safety features for this kind of work. it seems like a very usable saw, the only major problem is the run out, but that hardly matters when you are ripping 2x4s ect. Plus the design overall seems good, and they could probably improve the quality control of this product and it would be just fine.

[@gregghernandez2714]

Not entirely off topic, but Leonardo Da Vinci did a pretty beautiful painting called "Lady With an Ermine." Apparently they were kept as pets. From the painting it looks like they grow pretty darn big. I would love to have one if they are tame, and don't bite my nose off.

[@AllenBrosowsky]

You, my friend, are a man of honour. Not many of you left in this world. But wow! You placed it up against your homemade table saw. Now I know that you are definitely aware of how good you are at what you do.

[@keylitho]

I work for a high end home builder.. and none of the framers ever have a job site table saw, they only use hand held circular saws... But the finish carpenters have a full size saw that they put in the garage when they are trimming out houses.. I personally only have a pretty good Ryobi Job site table saw (one that folds up) and after I have learned its quarks it can cut very straight and square.

[@Megabobster]

I'd like to see a video/series where you take a tool like this and make it not crappy by either tinkering and reinforcing it or taking out what's good (motor/angle adjust) and making a new everything else (homemade table saw 2, unnecessarily complicated edition?)

[@Zero-Fox-Garage]

I found this review helpful and fair. If I was the sponsor company I would not be upset by the review, or the findings. Yes, it is not hard to figure out what the brand is, and I will be watching for it to go on sale in the new year. i don't mind tinkering some, and don't have the budget for a cabinet maker's saw. LOL'd at the Ermine appearance and the impromptu pursuit. Random, and epic!

[@MakeSomething]

Yikes! I appreciate the honesty in this review. I've never used a jobsite saw and now know I never want to.

[@mike93lx]

Make Something i don't really think that is fair. Some of the premium jobsite saws are quite nice, like dewalt, bosch and sawstop. My dewalt 7491 is quite accurate and didn't require any messing around when new.

[@theonlyari]

Make Something if all you need to do is rip plywood for construction, you really don't need a ton of precision.

[@GumbootZone]

I agree. This brand of saw often promotes itself as "professional quality" and charges a price to match. But I've found that most of their tools are several steps below the other leading brands that they try to copy. I'm very happy with my Bosch, and reviews have placed Rigid and the newer DeWalt as just as high. I consider this brand to be "home handyman" only, but won't buy them even for that because of the price they charge.

[@82camino96]

My problem with jobsight saws that I’ve owned is that you can not get a smooth and precise cut with them. Which, is completely acceptable for making those jobsight type of cuts. But, even if you’re a just a hobbyist but want a smooth cut and don’t need to transport the saw, you are MUCH better off getting a more solid, heavier saw with an induction motor and iron table. In my experience the ONLY thing you get is convenience and mobility out of one of these saws. While you can spend a lot more on a heavier saw, there are some inexpensive and affordable non mobile saws on the market and even with those, to me you can’t even compare the performance to that of a jobsight saw of the same or even more cost. It’s night and day. The problem is that we get sucked into the mobility feature of them and become dead set on wanting one because it’s lighter weight and has wheels. I personally regret that I did as well although on a positive, I got the real world experience from it and now know how inferior their performance is. In many cases you’re better off getting yourself a solid saw with a cast iron top for the home or shop and if you really need a saw on a jobsight, you can get by with a very cheap low quality and lightweight saw as a backup and not get stuck with a mediocre saw for all of your needs. If only they made a jobsight saw that performs closer to a stationary saw for the money. The sawstop costs as much as a very well performing stationary saw and although it is a bit higher in quality, you’re still making the same sacrifices. I’d really like to try the new jobsight Skillsaw though, it seems to be a very good compromise.

[@c.e.kestner4051]

@@82camino96 Skilsaw SPT-99 does the job. Worm drive. 3-1/2" D.O.C. in red oak.

[@TonyV_in_the_OC]

It would be nice to know what brand of saw sucks, but you've covered the brand and didn't think it "nice" to be negative when a company gives you something to review. You need to be less sensitive and more business like in these situations. If a company wants you to do an unboxing or review something, your most credible action would be to provide a systematic and repeatable approach, demonstrating to us the performance and rate the results. Don't be such a wimp in these situations, you have no trouble puffing and bragging as well as putting John Heisz's items down. Let's get serious, either accept and provide tool reviews, regardless of results or return items and let them know you don't do that type of video. In this case, you accepted the tool, didn't show us what to avoid (brand) and have the tool, which is the "payment" for your review which is useless since we don't know the brand. So you basically have received compensation for nothing back to the company which sent you an item of value...you win and they're screwed out of a saw. Don't / stop worrying about companies "feelings", they are entities and don't have anthropomorphic anything. They are in business to make a profit, period. If they ask for a review, let us and the company know as you go through your systematic review and your honest opinion (which again, not right or wrong) to provide both us, your subs and revenue generators as well as the company value in the form of an honest review. Your being s professional and honesty is never impeachable!!

[@bacstr]

Is it us to decide or Matthias? Merry X-Mas to everybody!

[@dit-zy]

It's got nothing to do with "sensitivity" or "wimpiness". You say he should be more business-like but that's exactly what he's doing, he's being professional. A company sponsored him and he's respecting that arrangement so he can continue having a relationship with that company. He doesn't have to do that, but he chose to and that's respectable and entirely his right to do. This wasn't a tool review video like what you're describing. Matthias said that this isn't a paid review. The company gave him the saw, but this isn't a sponsored video nor a video about that particular saw. It's a review of jobsite saws in general. He uses this saw to demonstrate problems with jobsite saws, not the problems with this specific saw. And he does say a lot about the pros and cons of jobsite saws, and when to buy one. You say he "didn't show us what to avoid (brand)" but he did; he explained the various features that are common problems with jobsite saws like this one. And you say that he "accepted the tool...which is the payment for your review" but he didn't; this wasn't a paid review, they just gave him the saw without a requirement to do a review. And that's the crux of it. He chose not to do a specific product review because he didn't want to do a negative review of a sponsor's product -- something he's not obligated to do for his viewers. But he still wanted to take the opportunity to make an educational video for us and so he found a way to do that that he would be comfortable with.

[@genmasaotome3503]

He is making an honest review. It is for you to decide if you think his criticism is valid or not.

[@squarrl]

I am pretty sure any Canadian knows what brand this is, and if you don't I am surprised.

[@dit-zy]

Graham North, I really appreciate your last comment. I do think that people are allowed to have whatever opinion they want. I especially agree that it is a viewer's right to watch whatever they want. I do believe that Matthias handled this review well and did the honest thing, but I absolutely respect your feelings about sponsorships in general, even if I don't entirely share them.

[@TheGeekPub]

I have seen this saw numerous times with many different brand names on it. Complete junk.

[@kademmatar20]

Hi, can you name few? I am buying one and want to stay really away from this one!

[@mld962]

@@kademmatar20 its all made in China. If your bugget is only for a jobsite saw, buy dewalt

[@EcoMouseChannel]

Took awhile, but I found the brand of table saw. Suffice it say, I'm in no danger of accidentally purchasing this saw. Since I'm not Canadian, and I don't need any vehicular rubber. The only jobsite saw I'd even consider is the Bosch with the flesh sensing blade. Yeah, it's $1500, but with a jobsite saw, you might get people who aren't as skilled or careful. To me, that's money well spent.

[@HaloWolf102]

I don't get 'offended' very much because I am not over dramatic. But I am offended about over dramatic people. The amount of dislikes is totally unnecessary. Grow up.

[@2adamast]

0.3% dislikes is offensive? and you don't even know how many disliked the saw

[@HaloWolf102]

Adamast "Disliked the saw" Are you okay sir. Because you dislike the video, not the saw.

[@HaloWolf102]

***** Who?

[@roboterson]

James Mitchell I disliked the video because I think withholding the name of the brand was a pure move on his part. if a company is making a poor product and sponsors you, I believe it's your job to tell them, and to inform others to encourage a better product.

[@HaloWolf102]

Roboterson Well I thought that the video was informative to the company to improve the product, and not naming the company was from respect.That move was to not 'tarnish' the company. Cause they could fix the problems and no one would want to buy from them.

[@cncwoodworxroc6881]

Risk repeating the obvious but, a job site saw and a cabinet/hybrid saw are different animals. Would never expect a 350-400 job site saw to ever compete with a cabinet/hybrid saw for precision. All said, use the right tool for the job to get the expected results.

[@jongmassey]

you've really put Maximum effort into this video, Matthias

[@Skidtire]

Ba dum tss.

[@EcoMouseChannel]

He did add the "minimum" amount of tape needed to cover the brand logo, however. Which I think is appropriate for the saw's capabilities.

[@alanfalleur6550]

He's Canadian and Tired of all the crappy jobsite saws.

[@petercollin5670]

That was a Lowe blow.

[@GumbootZone]

The winner! 10 points!

[@Jer_Schmidt]

Oh my god... I'm so thankful for a cabinet saw right now!

[@alecjahn]

I gotta say, that Ermine was adorable.

[@alecjahn]

Stoat it is.

[@GeordieJabba]

alecjahn I say, I say, I say. How do you tell the difference between a weasel and a stoat? One is weasely identifiable and the other is stoatally different.

[@Dosbomber]

+Mathew Currie **

[@ozrenbalic6051]

Watch it gnaw on the back of rabbit's neck (that is 4 times the ermine's size), eating it alive bit by bit, and tell me if you still find it adorable. :-O

[@luinks]

Just like my ex, i found her so cute and adorable so i married her, ten she ate me alive and stole my soul D:

[@petercollin5670]

I owned the Ridgid contractor saw for several years. I actually liked it. Eventually I upgraded to a cast iron topped Jet, but for a beginner, the Ridgid seems like a good buy. It cost about as much as this turd.

[@arniebrooks]

Only Matthias would stop a review halfway through to pursue an ermine around his shop

[@StevenZhangMakes]

Oh my god, I should try out a proper cabinet saw someday, or even a hybrid, because I've been using job site table saw since I've started woodworking. Your review on the jobsite saw actually pushes my urge to get a proper tablesaw. Maybe next Christmas, I've already used my opportunity for this Christmas :)

[@mickstephenson]

boo, was expecting to see your answer to John Heisz's new clamp design.

[@jbonegw]

It went from a saw review to wild kingdom.

[@williamhayden7711]

Matthias I applaud you still taking the time to go through this saw. First I have no issues you covering up the name since this saw was sent to you for a paid review. Had it not been an agreed paid review it might be different. Second you providing this information will help the buyer and manufacturer. It will help the buyer know what to look for and it will help the manufacturer improve their product. Nice job. As for the saw itself. Man that's one bad saw. If you are the company selling this please get with your manufacturer. This is not how to make a saw or build brand loyalty.

[@charleswatts1864]

Thanks for the honesty! Is this all you would do to make a low end saw more precise and useful? Maybe make a video going through all the check points to make low end saws better to use for the budget hobbiest. Great work!

[@omarkhan9966]

As a tired Canadian, I feel you should not have to put maximum effort in all your videos and thus agree with you not naming the brand.

[@GumbootZone]

Your prize money is on the way. ;-)

[@FrozenHaxor]

I see what you did there haha!

[@TheIlliniviking]

I just got gifted your 14" bandsaw plans for Christmas, can't wait to get started on it!

[@Toshiro7777]

This is a very useful video. I've learned a lot from all of your table saw videos.

[@adamblesener2916]

I looked up ermines after the video and they’re straight up the cutest animals I’ve ever seen

[@carpenter1138]

Great review Matthias! It's important for people to know what you are getting with the job site saws because in the end a lot of the poor manufacturing, design and lack of squareness lead to poor work, frustration and safety issues...

[@tableshaper4076]

I've never heard of the brand "jobsite" but I will avoid it! MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!

[@burning_lemons4514]

thats not the brand

[@luckybabir]

Sh4rky da Shark really???

[@burning_lemons4514]

Lukasz Babiracki what?

[@greensteve9307]

@Sh4rky da Shark, tableshaper was being sarcastic.

[@burning_lemons4514]

Steve Cheetah but it seemed like he wasn't

[@patrickpiekarski2412]

Mathias I have noticed in a lot of your project videos you spread glue on both surfaces of a joint, I'm curious to see if that adds any benefit to the wood. I know you have done test videos of joints in the past do you have one pertaining to this subject?

[@matthiaswandel]

It gives it a chance to soak into both surfaces before clamping, so it's less likely to be a glue starved joint.

[@nikonyrh]

Do you mean there could be an issue if you squeeze the join too hard (I remember there was a test on this), or that if you let it set for too long before bringing pieces together it wouldn't soak well to the other piece?

[@rolfbjorn9937]

I know this is a Maximum (Canadian Tire) saw, but google brings up your video every time I try to find information on King Industrial KC 5100 portable jobsite saw. It also appears that this base model is almost identical to the Ryobi, Ridgid, Skil, Delta Kobalt...I am going insane trying to find a portable saw that I can be a beginner with without the $$$$. I can't spend 2000$ on a saw, and wouldn't pay 800 either, nor do I want to pay for a used one that I have no warranty that it hasn't been abused by the owner...

[@eformance]

ADHD: Highway to...Hey look, an Ermine!

[@OgMandin0]

Since Matthais tells us when a manufacturer pays him to do a review, I have no problem w/ this one. He's not begging for Paetron subscribers as so many do. His videos are solid and he probably could not spend so much time making them w/o some compensation.

[@anewstarttoabrokenlife8662]

I have the cheap saw that you said was about $100, and I've built decks and cabinets with it. To be fair I had to sand and polish the arbour completely flat but it wasn't much. As for the pretty easy alignment, but for $15 I cannot complain it's fairly accurate, to be honest.

[@yewsengcheong1637]

I think people misunderstand his intentions. He's not naming the brand for fear of missing out on any future perks that he might get. He's not naming the brand because he was nice to consider their dealings before. He's reviewing it because some people asked about it. Every company carries products that don't fit some people. This might be good enough for some people. Doesn't matter whether he got it for free or was paid. As long as he stated what's good what's bad, you just have to take that and decide if you want it or not. Nothing else matters nor is it your business. If this review is not good enough for you, go find another one that will give you enough info to make a decision. He doesn't owe it to anyone to deliver a perfect review.

[@Rizon1985]

I really don't think you should hide the company name Matthias. You gave a fair review with not only negatives but also positives. And the saw is clearly aimed for mobile use for the middle price market. And we both know the company that made this aims to between the cheap and the expensive companies so you don't do them a favor because you are hiding their name from their target audiance.

[@compub3ar]

I'd love to see a side-by-side comparison with the Bosch 1031. It's what I own and the issues you point out just aren't there, despite being nearly identical in appearance. Great bang for the buck, I got it from Amazon.ca for $325 shipped. Except for the miter gauge. It just plain sucks.

[@edwardhartmann1798]

You left the brand name showing at 12:37

[@lewisdello7681]

gg

[@Wordsnwood]

sharp eye... few people outside of Canada would know it. And that is probably the majority of his audience anyway.

[@joshmaier18]

Good eye sir!

[@pumpkinheadghoul]

Well, for the life of me, I sure can't find it.

[@ShovaSG1]

@@pumpkinheadghoul Above the handle there is a company name and address.

[@Crazylalalalala]

hi, I have that really awful saw so on the left. don't be so mean. But yes it is terrible. The on/ off switch broke immediately, the fence does not lock parallel to the blade so i have to use a square to double check (and the handle broke) and the miter gage is also no good. But it did only cost 100 bucks and I have used it for over 10 years.. so for that price, I got what I expected and it works well enough for home diy projects.

[@BenDellsperger]

You nailed your point. It's a job site saw. The target audience for this saw is cuts that have to be within a 1/4", not a couple of thousandths

[@MRrwmac]

Matthias, Best wishes for you and your loved ones this Christmas and hope you all have a wonderful new year in 2017!

[@DavidStanton]

Say it as it is Matthias, I like that about you!

[@nekofunchatta]

came for the table saw, stayed for the ermine

[@arbarr3]

I love how this video went from a table saw review to crock hunter, instantly.

[@Spiderelectron]

The guys that make this saw would be grateful for this review. It's honest and is exactly the kind of constructive criticism they could use to improve their products. I'm sure they won't get furious, or go into a rage. They may even pay you some more for the QA testing!

[@Dutch1954]

OK, then.....this is not the jobsite saw that I have....not going to name mine either...BUT....I learned a lot from this video, as usual. Thanks Matthias for sharing, Best Wishes Always...Hope you and yours have a Happy Holiday Season.

[@jdogden1]

The hell with the cover-up,,, don"t you have a responsibility to your viewers on what products to stay away from ???????????

[@matthiaswandel]

I will gladly refund you any money you paid to watch this video

[@SgtSly]

Matthias Wandel well played, sir. Well played.

[@williamhayden7711]

LMAO

[@sporkeh90]

You are the one getting the saw because of your viewers. So he kind of has a point.

[@paulmolive84]

@Matthias Jeff makes a good point and that's your response? I'm sure you're sponsored because of the nice guy that you are. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the views you get from your viewers. Your viewers are just trying to tell you to keep it honest, sponsors or not. You are obviously free to do as you wish. You can censor anything you want on your channel. As a viewer I now know what to expect from this channel.

[@nickjm37fordel1]

My dad once said you get what you pay for! But if you don't pay for it, oh well.

[@StarlancerAstro]

What's the point of a review good or bad if you aren't going to name the product to keep us from buying a bad product. I know it's mentioned in other comments but if you're just about free tools I find myself disappointed

[@LukeHague]

Your new friend will help with the mouse issues.

[@techedfireman4981]

leave the ermine since it's an outdoor shop not worth the challenge to catch it. That is if it's causing damage then ya get rid of it. Honest review, totally understand you "don't want to bite the hand that feeds you" but you personally can't stand behind something that poor of quality.

[@tomalcolm]

I have tremendous respect for you Matthias. Great review.

[@BrainFizz]

Interesting. Whenever I I'm approached to do a review I always have the same two conditions: 1. I say what I want, not what the company want me to say. End of. 2. I get to do with the tool as I see fit. In return they get 100% Honesty from me. There's no room for negotiation on it, they either shy away, or they agree.the ones that agree tend to have faith in their products I find.

[@karljcraig]

dewalt make the only job site saw worth anything

[@mrupholsteryman]

I liked the thought of you dropping it from your drill powered ladder platform and testing the ability to cut straight after being subject to the abuses at a job site. What I think would be more appropriate is for the company that will remain nameless...(but those in the know...know who they are)...take the review as a constructive criticism and fix some of the issues and maybe even charge more for a better product. It would prove that they listen to their customers and there is always room for improvement... so do not be afraid of it. just my 1/50th of a dollar...

[@matthiaswandel]

yes, but as a customer, if you want a better product, you would just buy a different brand (and probably pay less while you are at it)

[@mrupholsteryman]

I appreciate your reviews and am coveteous of your shop space. I think you should measure the mouse and fit a body cam to it.....and see where it goes. It could be a fun extra channel. Fivel's next adventure....

[@mrupholsteryman]

Ooops.... Fievel.

[@imabeapirate]

Thanks Matthias. This was a good video to learn what to look for in jobsite saws.

[@amiddled]

Matthias, I would just disable the comments. You have already done what people have been requesting anyway.

[@ApolloCrowe]

This saw probably gets rebadged under other brands, so the thingsto look for are more important than the name.

[@matthiaswandel]

Exactly

[@mrx.2233]

Hi Mathias, I watch a lot of your videos. I Would like to ask your opinion about Cabinet Saw choice. Not sure if you have any opinion on Toolmate Cabinet Table Saw 10", 2HP and the JET Cabinet Table Saw JTS-250CS. Table saws in South Africa are super expensive and making the right choice is key. Any advice??? Maybe??

[@WV591]

And Remember, There is No More Important Safety Rule than to Stay Away From Junk tools even if free.

[@Xray2j]

12:39> 055-6766-2 +google = name of brand

[@ron5935]

I purchased this saw 5 days ago before seeing this so I went to the shop to check mine. Mine is updated model but obviously same manufacturer. All the defect mentioned are no present on mine.

[@davidgenoway8889]

Can you pm me the make and model?

[@Uncle_Buzz]

Weasel in winter white coat, ermine...same difference. Here's a pic of one with a mouse : photos.smugmug.com/Galleries/My-Favorites/i-XcN7HRk/2/X2/42489-X2.jpg

[@red_freckle]

I have a Ridgid portable table saw that was great for years on countless jobs sites, it currently is in need of a new motor bearing. Ridgid is far from high end but they seem to do table saws well... though I've read mixed reviews on the newer ones.

[@red_freckle]

Alex​​ Your wording is a bit off, do you mean you have the Mastercraft saw shown here? It does seem old-manish to say "things were better in my day", but when it comes to tools it can't really be refuted that they were built sturdier and to last longer. My Ridgid saw is less than 10 years old and the model has great reviews, the newer version looks almost identical but has mixed (including very poor) reviews, there's no doubt that the quality is decreasing even within a few years.

[@Ian_Hay]

This is a really interesting and useful (and I *hope* ultimately correct) way of approaching this situation. I see the inherent tension experienced by full-time making/building/educational KZbinrs of your variety. On the one hand, you've built your audience - in part - through an earned reputation for honesty and trustworthiness. On the other hand, *you do this for a living*, trying to earn a reliable middle class income thorough this alone, and paid sponsorships and product placements and reviews can have a legitimate and necessary place in securing that. So I understand you not wanting to jeopardize that. So this strikes a good balance: you were appropriately critical of a sub-par product, without being savage about it. You didn't name them, so nobody can say "Matthias slagged [Brand]". But any of your viewers who are in that market and who care will know exactly what brand this is, or at least will know what things to look for and what trade-offs they're making, so it's just as useful. And if it turns out this pisses the company off, then I don't think they've thought about this very hard: this is a job site saw, and as it turns out, an uninspiringly typical one. You're not a contractor or job site worker. You're known for engineering-level precision in your work. So that's predictably going to set your expectations. Why would they think you're going to be an enthusiastic reviewer of this particular piece of equipment?

[@greentjmtl]

Hahaha, every Canadian knows where that saw came from.

[@SJAndrewbsme]

greentjmtl princess auto?

[@callmezucc9318]

@@SJAndrewbsme Canadian Tire

[@ibeattheleaves5005]

I wonder if the design intent with the hole on the dust collector is to creat a venturi effect.

[@ProfessorDIY]

I applaud your decision you are an ethical man

[@TheJMemonic]

This saw appears very similar to my Metabo TS254 in many ways, some ideas on things for me to check out and potential solutions, thanks for the video Matthias.

[@andrewp.tucker3219]

I hate it when people say that something is built to a certain price point. No, it's made to a particular profit point, like that thing. Great review!

[@MadebyJester]

As a longtime viewer, I'm uncomfortable with the ethical issues raised by this review. Matthias' motivation for hiding the name of the manufacturer clearly underscores that he has a conflict of interest, and is resolving that conflict by being less than forthcoming. Yes, he faithfully pointed out all the flaws, and that's good. But he also refused to attach those flaws to the brand because they've paid him for videos in the past. That's a clear conflict of interest. The right thing to do would be to refuse to review the saw, or to review it with the name attached. Straddling the line between those two positions does a disservice to the viewers.

[@MadebyJester]

A) Matthias went out of his way to obscure the brand, and made a point of telling us that he was doing so because he had a prior business relationship with the company. That's a conflict of interest. B) I didn't see the places where the brand name was visible. And I'm not likely to go watch again just for the satisfaction of knowing. I don't care who makes it, I care that Matthias isn't being entirely ethical. C) Calling people stupid for highlighting ethical concerns says more about you than it does about me.

[@TheUnnamedGent]

Is it a samsung?

[@KiranHuilgol]

TheUnnamedGent lol

[@oscarzt1652]

TheUnnamedGent nope; didnt explode

[@matroosoft4589]

It's certainly not an Apple.

[@alhaeri1]

lol legend

[@Teefanuta]

Its a Maximum www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/maximum-compact-jobsite-table-saw-10-in-0556766p.html#srp

[@rolls_8798]

oh my god. this video made me realise that my absolute shit show of a table saw (much worse than the $100 one you pointed out), does, in fact, have height adjustment. i'm an idiot, but a happy one

[@diytutorialsandmore9804]

That animal is cute

[@allluckyseven]

I'm sure Matthias is flattered by this comment.

[@RestoMog]

Just make sure to send them your feedback so they can make improvements hopefully.

[@MsSomeonenew]

$450 and then you need to go fix the damn thing yourself... that is just awful, I expect that from bottom end tools but this is plain nasty.

[@TheGuiltyDave]

I have a Bosch job site saw which I use for all my projects as it's the biggest I have room for and it seems a lot better quality than those. Have you ever checked out a Bosch? Any comments. Bosch GTS 10 J

[@matthiaswandel]

I don't have a bosch

[@pvjewel]

I have Bosch 4100. Pretty similar construction but quality is much better.

[@shearsjamie]

I have a Bosch GTS10XC (UK version) - it's a great saw, but I struggle to get accurate parallel cuts with the fence and having learnt loads from this saw will upgrading to panel saw as soon as I can afford it.

[@niclaslofgren]

Looks to be a poor copy of the Bosch XC10 to me.

[@SammyInnit]

You've taken the words out of my mouth. I had that exact saw and much of it looks the same, just poorly implemented; that is to suggest everything on the XC10 was perfect, which isn't true either.

[@niclaslofgren]

Sam Tranter No the Bosch XC10 got some issues for sure. Especially considered it's a Thousand dollar saw.

[@Wurmtal868]

I think it looks more like a BOSCH GTS 1031 (GTS10J in Europe). Can anyone share his experiences with the BOSCH GTS1031?

[@ychyro]

the Bosch is bad! I bought one... :(

[@Wurmtal868]

Which Bosch the XC10 or the GTS1031? Why is it bad?

[@thomassmith4320]

You owe the company no courtesy if the product is shit. Earned a dislike for this one. How can we trust you on future reviews if your are hesitant to review a poor product from a company that treated you nicely because you know it won't go well?

[@caldera11]

Since I'm not the dude reviewing it, here's the brand www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/maximum-compact-jobsite-table-saw-10-in-0556766p.html#srp

[@theonlyari]

Caldera11 seriously? there's always one...

[@caldera11]

what? I don't see a free saw at my place.

[@woodsprout]

Free isn't always a good thing.

[@pippimaxim]

I happen to think reviews SHOULD include the name of these brands and this comment hasnt been deleted hahahaha

[@Blingem14]

always 1 what? Doing an anonymous review is kinda crap.

[@nicktimmons2468]

my favorite light weight one man movable site saw is the dewalt dw744 but even this one will take some initial setup. we usually have a nice 3 hp cabinet saw in the garage while under construction. I would be curious to hear your thoughts on the dw.

[@Wordsnwood]

How do you like the mobile base? Seems like that is a big part of the newer "high end" job site saws.

[@matthiaswandel]

That part is pretty decent. Though not so smooth, took me three takes to get that set up to look good, and even then, there's a second or two that i cut out.

[@TwoCents690]

What a piece. You should be able to pay extra for power not craftsmanship.

[@evilgremlin]

Blade wobbling is standard issue on any table/handheld/miter saw, that's not made by Mafell, Festool or other premium-ish brands, that actually care about what they sell. And all sources of wobbling could (and should) be fixed pretty easily except bent shaft.

[@telefon72]

Evil Gremlin Haha, you are calling festool premium, it's just overpriced, no good at all

[@evilgremlin]

I called it "premium-ish" :) And what actually is wrong with Festool? I use some of Festool tools, things like DeWalt feels like unreliable shit made by idiot after it. And can you name another brand, that actually sell any spare parts to mere mortals? :)

[@telefon72]

Evil Gremlin If you take festools tools apart you will see what i mean, not using bearings where needed and all in all using too flimsy parts

[@evilgremlin]

Parts isn't too flimsy if it made of proper alloys. And i don't really care about fewer bearings, since it works decently for years and doesn't break out of the blue unlike most other tools. Really, i've seen 2000W skilsaws with nylon gears. That IS flimsy.

[@ThomasShatter]

Festool have a very "toxic" fanclub. Just look how they overreacted when AvE did his review of their saw. And they are a little bit overpriced but if there are people willing to pay for it then so be it. Btw there is nothing wrong with using bronze bushing instead of a bearing in certain applications. In fact i bought a second hand AEG circular saw that was made over 20 years ago in germany. Bronze bushing and after all those years there is no problem with alignment or wobbling shaft(actually you can't move blade side to side without bending it, nice for a 25 US $ buy).

[@GFASC]

Pretty sure it is a different version of the SPT70WT SKILSAW - Maybe not released yet. Looks very similar. So my guess is it is the SKILSAW brand for all you that are wondering. Matthias is just being respectful (Something AVE does not care about lol). He is not just posting this to generate views. I now know what issues to look for and analyse when I look to buy a table saw. This video is very informative. It is just not for the lazy, instant satisfaction, kind of person.

[@MrHandwerk]

Thank for the Video :)

[@ScrewDrvr]

This is why my woodworking sucks, it's because of the jobsite saw and not me. Right?