Jocko Podcast 310: Relish The Struggle and Keep Reaching For The Stars. With Jose Hernandez

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0:00:00 - Opening
0:02:43 - Jose Hernandez
3:29:03 - How to stay on THE PATH.
3:47:36 - Closing Gratitude

[@eloquentsarcasm]

For every person who insists that the system is broken, that you can never really achieve anything, there is someone like this man who proves them wrong. Jose represents everyone, no matter where they start out from making their way in life, and finding their happiness in it. Only from humble beginnings can one reach true greatness, and he proves it to be true.

[@olsparkywisenheimer8239]

I agree 100%. I have several of these examples around me every day in Construction in California. Ironically one is also from Michoacan Mexico. Don't dare tell them the American dream is dead. They're living proof. Another guy came from Guatemala 25 years ago. When he left he was making $3 a day. Fast forward to today and all 3 kids went to college, and he has their home +3 rental homes. True hard work and commitment will always land you in a good place. Well usually not NASA but doing well..lol

[@StevelandCleamer]

This is hands-down one of the best shows I’ve ever had the pleasure of listening to

[@deborahcooler8392]

I've only been listening since January, and there's lots of great ones... 👍 Hope you discover more. 😉

[@michael19m42]

Amen to that. The world needs more of this kind of inspiration!

[@WiseCheese587]

Agreed. Jose's perserverance is truly amazing.

[@hogandonahue9598]

I found I am emotionally attached to Echo. I've never seen an episode without him and this episode is AWESOME but it's missing that Hawaiian spice.

[@timmydlookatme]

Agree. We the punters need Echo back.

[@Daviesca06]

Love me some Echo Charles!

[@harambe8103]

Same Echo is like that silent sage just speaking exactly what is needed at the right times and never really overshadows jocko and I feel he does that perfectly.

[@keris8257]

Echo a sage?

[@rachaelkara8053]

Agreed

[@jackhammer0925]

This guy is a grade A story teller. Could listen to him all day.

[@Stringr369]

That's what he said he wanted to be, an astronaut.

[@blainemont1014]

Correct. He is a Story-Teller

[@brandenmoulzolf5696]

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[@4randosutube]

Awesome show Jocko. I am proud to say that I know Jose. I worked with him at Lawrence Livermore Lab. Witnessed much of what he speaks about including his astronaut application process. As disappointing as it was when he left the lab for Houston it was even more exciting when he was selected. And of course his launch. Awesome life story. Awesome human being and awesome guest. One can absolutely do most anything they put their mind to. You just have to “get after it”.

[@t-bonear2539]

He is one of many excellent examples of why we should not change America. This is one of the few countries were you can accomplish anything if you are willing to work hard enough.

[@ollielon5926]

​@@t-bonear2539We should. We should always strive to make it better.

[@PULAG]

The Rock: I'm the hardest working man in the room Josè: Hold my cervesa

[@joshuaaviles5267]

Ayyyyy

[@gangliferedemption9176]

Wow that story really hits home as a Mexican American father raising 4 kids. Thanks for sharing.

[@Pseudo-Z]

Please bring more people like this to the United States. People like this have true American spirit.

[@nobytes2]

he was born in California wtf are you talking about bringing more people like him to the US

[@chainsaw5vent]

I remember the commercial. Walking underneath the stars. Talking about how he used to work the fields as a kid. And kept working hard enough to become an astronaut. Awesome!! Is not enough

[@MeiaLuaDeCompasso]

Mexican-American scientist myself, and man this was a great listen! I too lived a nomadic lifestyle growing up. I've never known stability, and I have to say, hearing Mrs. Youngs words couldn't come at a better moment for me. Incredible podcast, and thank you to Jose Hernandez for sharing this!

[@stancuellar4132]

Jose is a great person showing how we can achieve our Goals, and how to Takeshi steps to get them.

[@MeiaLuaDeCompasso]

@@stancuellar4132 wassup fellow cuellar lmao

[@stancuellar4132]

@@MeiaLuaDeCompasso jajajaja hello my Sisters an brother live in LA, my Sister work in LA county she got a MBA Cal state Dominguez Hill , my brother graduales Civil Engineer Cal state Long Beach with scholarship an effort

[@jordanfarmer1931]

I'm sitting here in Stockton, CA, inspired by this man's journey!

[@ljavierg18]

That school story had me dying. I think every American born Mexican grew up that way.

[@firehorse_44alpha-omega]

"There is only one way to make dreams come true...." Thank you gentlemen Cheers

[@saintthanos3578]

not tru strippies take bitcoins now so, it's a lot more than one, and credit, some even accept coupons

[@AintnothingbutAGthang]

Finally they got some of my people on here my raza Mexican American...love this podcast don't get me wrong but love to see my people shine.....⭐🌞⭐

[@richw76]

I'm an engineer and Jose made me smile. He'd kindly and gently correct you by saying 3 hours 40 minutes average, or 3 Thousand 2 hundred and 18 miles away. He could have been accurate and understood, but he choose to be accurate and precise. I wouldn't bother to fact check because I know he's studied and practiced and verified the answers. He's very intelligent but he's clearly a very prepared person, good lesson in there.

[@basscat242424]

I've had the pleasure of working with Jose at my previous job with the Teamsters Union. We supported him in his run for congress (CD21). His story is truly inspiring!!!!

[@zach1972]

You know who I would love to see on this podcast? Mark Donaldson VC, first Australian to win Australia's highest military honours since WWII, the Victoria Cross for Australia, his life is interesting as fuck with so many hardships, his book Crossroads was an incredible read, in 08 he earned his VC by putting his life on the line to save a critically injured interpreter while his 5 car convoy was taking 360° fire

[@14lexquez]

When I was a boy in middle school, I had the fortune of being in the National Junior Honor Society. One phrase which always stuck with me was, “It’s not your aptitude, but your attitude, which determines your altitude in life.” Jose embodies this phrase. Despite the circumstances while growing up, he saw his life as a great opportunity. Well done Jocko! This was a great interview.

[@FitBaylorRob]

Same man! Great story!

[@lolab8786]

I got fired yesterday due to my vaccination status and my husband sent this to me. I am here for it.

[@alantinoalantonio]

Sounds like you are blessed with a good husband there. Time to pursue other goals that you may have Lola. New year, clean slate. Rooting for you 💪🇺🇸

[@lolab8786]

@@alantinoalantonio thanks!! I appreciate your words.

[@hardyzme]

Stay Strong. We need more bold souls to stand up against tyranny.

[@americanpatriot6938]

Jocko uploading in the middle of the night - no factor. GET SOME

[@flobyshmeshmac8083]

This guy and the story of his parents are just another driver for me to be a good father to my future children.

[@mwhitelaw8569]

Upon watching this I came to the realization of what this actually is. The warrior poet and the astronaut Only a republic of high order could create two men like this. If the founders could watch this They'd be proud of what they started Thank you Mr Hernández for sharing your story sir Keep rockin' it jocko!!!

[@shawnross5850]

interview the parents they are the real stars, not to dismiss jose but they produced this guy

[@joshuaparr5883]

man so true, parents do tend to produce humans 😆

[@Jamesbradley001]

They gave him the tools. He put in the work. Clearly

[@ryanramsey9621]

Señor Zendeyhas taught you a great lesson. Tenga gran orgullo por su cultura. Soy un gringo hispañohablante querría decirle eres muy interesante y muy buen trabajo. La comida de mamá es lo mejor tambien.

[@dcooper6142]

I am a little partial because it played a big part in my life, but I have found that people who grew up on Star Trek tend to be a different breed.

[@bolenarrow9286]

As someone who teaches kids every day in Martial Arts and school activities, as well as works for someone who is the regional manager of ESL (English as a Second Language) this was an absolute pleasure to listen to!!! If you engage with kids at all this is literally necessary listening.

[@thenicoalfonso]

Listened to many amazing episodes of Jocko Podcast since #1, but this has to be in the top 5 for sure.

[@americanpatriot6938]

bro its a 4 hour podcast thats only been out for a hour, what are you on about

[@thenicoalfonso]

@@americanpatriot6938 this podcast came out earlier on audio like every jocko podcast 🤦‍♂️

[@americanpatriot6938]

@@thenicoalfonso didnt kno - on spotify?

[@thenicoalfonso]

@@americanpatriot6938 yes, and most other podcast platforms. Typically a day or two before the videos are out on KZbin.

[@CSpad]

Echo has changed a lot since last episode I've watched

[@native_wun]

Yussss!, was waiting for the visuals on this one. Listened to an hour of the audio, and then turned it off to wait for the added visual aspect of his storytelling 😊

[@deborahcooler8392]

I listened to the entire audio podcast, excited to discover it was on KZbin. Yep, better in 3D when you can catch it. Glad they got after it! 👍

[@theinfiniteglow7268]

I'm an early childhood educator, and it's crazy how much a consistent environment can do for a child! In our classrooms we try to help incorporate the child's home into the classroom. So we do family boards, if a child is bilingual we put labels and get books that are in their native language. We are also encouraged to learn a few words in the language to help communication. Your teacher was amazing!

[@ronpoirier2763]

I think the "content of his character" is one of the reasons why he was chosen to be an Astronaut that isn't mentioned. I believe it plays a big factor, especially when the selection process gets narrowed down to 12 or 20. For him to invite/bring those two teachers who impacted him most & have them sit with his family at his first launch...to show them such respect by his actions & not just words. You couldn't ask for a better way to appreciate & honor a teacher more than this.

[@Putzl52]

This podcast showed up in my recommendations at the right time. I have been on the fense about quitting ju jitsu as its so difficult in the beginning, not to mention the added challenge of learing the technique with a vision impairment. I ended up going to class regardless last night and I am very glad I did. Seeing this podcast on reeffirms that I need to continue the pursuit of BJJ. I needed this podcast. Thank you Jocko and crew.

[@gohome99]

Brendan, Keep it up if possible. When I started BJJ, there was a blind purple belt that tapped me out all the time.

[@tombragalone7250]

I could listen to this all day, jocko reminds me of Paul Harvey, and the rest of the story..

[@johnhansen4794]

Pick a goal high enough that there are lots of cool and worthy steps. EG: the path to "astronaut" might contain: military officer, pilot, professor of any of several topics, various types of engineer.

[@anaMoc1038]

We raised our kids while working as migrant farmers. We did potatoes in Idaho, lettuce in California, tomatoes florida, blackberry North Carolina, Salmon in Seattle, salmon in Alaska before I went on military disability. In between seasons we spent a lot of time in the bush, or 🏜. Our daughter just returned from Germany with the big red 1. I was the only gringo, or veteran. I don't speak Spanish. My wife was would interpreter. She swam the Rio grand at 13 with an 11month baby. Jump down turn around pick a bale of cotton boy! I grew up in Mississippi skipping school to throw hay bail, get drunk, and drive race cars on Memphis streets.

[@anaMoc1038]

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[@Sleigh]

Hell yeah. Space boys in the house.

[@sonofmichael_777]

Got damn Jocko you killing it! Already got my eyes watery 30 minutes in! This is inspirational and is continuing to give me an excuse not to make ANY excuses! Salute! 🫡🤧💯🔥

[@Juli-gk2vq]

I love Jocko and his guests! I was needing inspiration today, flipped this on and feel back rooted! Don't forget Live: ISS!

[@andreiskz2988]

Imagine being actually happy to live with your parents

[@JuanWick209]

When faced with something that making you struggle look at it and say ' make me struggle!! You're only making me stronger! You're a benefit to my well being.'

[@ajs.10]

True hard working Mexicano 🙏🏾 much needed motivation for the week. Awesome episode

[@nickn2154]

Purdue University was recently declared one of the top ten public universities in America. Boiler Up!

[@parkeranderson5074]

This is a good episode. Although I must say that I have gone through a 12pk case of Mango Mayhem due to the absence of Echo Charles.

[@cavscout62]

So grateful I grew up in the Texas Hill Country in a place with everyone being different. We spoke “Spanglish” and it’s served me all my life and continues to this day to do so. Growing up multilingual gives you such benefit, living in my friends houses with their Parents as The Law and learning the Culture and my Mexican friends getting the same in the Anglo houses, the benefits are never ending. We were one big Family you see and there was no difference between any of us. No matter the 1st language spoken in the individual home, English, German, Polish, Czech, Spanish, it didn’t matter. If you wanted to know what was going on you picked up on what was being said and in doing that you got an in-depth look into how people thought and lived. People are so much the same and yet so different at the extremes, all is beneficial to everyone if you pay attention. I’m especially grateful for the difference in eating the same basic foods but getting to enjoy them prepared in different ways from cultural influences and traditions! What a childhood and place/way to grow up! Jose and I are born in the same year and I can relate exactly to his mindset from those times.

[@stocktonhippie6573]

Stockton made it to Jocko podcast! Glad to see the success of my hard working people

[@TeacherMom80]

What an awesome, inspiring story to share with my 4 boys -- beautiful!😃 Thanks, Mr. Jocko & Friends! God be with you & yours, always. 💖🙏🏼🕊️

[@hardyzme]

I love Echo. Jocko's always big brothering him. Its so funny.

[@sarahsincerely9599]

This episode was truely inspiring... I have to pause a third way in 108:00 and let the lessons soak into my soul. Congrats Mr.Hernandez on a beautiful ride. Sincerely

[@ung427]

25:27 ... Oh yeah, I know what you mean. I was living in the city of Ventura when the big Northridge earthquake happened.. I was jolted awake, ran outside to see the sky flashing green as the distant massive towers from the power plant swayed and ran into each other causing massive green sparks to light up the night sky.. and then, after the quake was over... I looked up, and it brought tears to my eyes and took my breath away. The same sky that I grew up looking at, with Orion, the Big Dipper, the Seven Sisters or Pleiades, was unrecognizable. There were so many stars everywhere that I couldn't even make out the usual constellations that are always there. The colors, the density of the stars, and the bright Milky Way, like a bright river flowing across the sky... it looked like a magic movie set, it completely took me by surprise and took my breath away. There were no city lights from Ventura, Camarillo, Oxnard, you name it... they were all knocked out by the quake... hence the true sky, once and only once was seen and it transported me to Yosemite, to the High Sierras... our beloved vacation spots at the time, and the sky at night was one of the reasons that we loved to go out camping for a week or two at some isolated High Sierra lake, as the stars were enough to watch and count as we fell asleep each night. Now, at that time, I was looking up at that same wide massive beautiful scene... but from my own backyard.

[@ryangranato5010]

Thanks for sharing, that was an awesome image you put in my head. Amazing and scary

[@isaacmclaurin]

"Normalization of Deviation" is the equivalent of a term we use in law enforcement and that's "Complacency Kills". Awesome interview!!!

[@stephanomacho6521]

Watched all of this on another platform. This is prob my favorite episode yet. Commenting for engagement.

[@DontLetTheOldManIn]

This was so Powerful! I cannot really relate to his upbringing but these stories about his parents are breaking me down. So flippin awesome. Amazing so many MILLIONS of Americans do not grasp what they have in our country. They choose ignorance and laziness to their, and more importantly their descendants, demise. His parents - and that fantastic teacher! - changed generations of people.

[@YeseniaV92]

STOP AUTO PLAYING JACK-O's PODCASTS 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎

[@buckreilly9956]

This is incredibly inspiring. What a great American story.

[@markusmen2818]

The perfect example for living the american dream! What an awesome story!

[@masdeyoutube7807]

Muy buenos esto, es una historia magica

[@rachaelkara8053]

Growing up in northern California myself, not too far from the Stockton/ Modesto area, this episode hit me right in the feels, so to speak. I shared with both my mother and my sister. . Gotta say though, as someone who has fled my once beautiful home state, where regular people used to be able to actually afford to live, I was stunned when José said he was a Democrat! The policies of the democratic party have absolutely ruined California, but you already know that, Jocko. You were just too polite to ask, "Why? Why one earth are you still a Democrat?" 😅 Killin me, Smalls! You aren't political, I know, I know... Nonetheless, much love to you all. 💕💕💕

[@joebudi5136]

What a great podcasr and life story. Well done Men!

[@Plan_it-Farm]

Greatest country in the world and good news, we can make it even better.

[@michaellarrauri9145]

What an awesome teacher with the young tree analogy

[@travisboothe5670]

10:23 to 22:18 would be a good excerpt. Miss Young. Thank you teachers.

[@davidbritton6121]

this guy is off the charts w overall duty to educate motivate and he gives a dam about people u can just tell after 1 min of listening to the man semper fi jocko u da man john wayne got nuthn on u. lol

[@whata86]

What happened to echo? I haven’t seen him on the last few podcast of yours ?

[@michaelgelunas1113]

The story about Jose's father & his teacher is beautiful & got my eyes watering. Thank you.

[@travisboothe5670]

45:14 to 55:19 How you know you are the wrong path to become an astronaut. Would be a good excerpt.

[@travisboothe5670]

1:36:50 To 1:47:24 getting rejected twelve times to become an astronaut. But I'm not a quitter. Would be a good excerpt

[@Pseudo-Z]

Good parenting usually makes good people. Very inspiring.

[@bryanUFCFightPicks]

So why is Jocko not appearing my feed anymore and I have to actually type it in to find the videos? Anybody else seeing this? Jocko said as much on his recent Rogan podcast but I was already thinking it. I went from posters of Jocko quotes to not seeing it in my feed out of no where. Episodes are gold. Catch up time

[@greenbrookapartments124]

best podcast ive ever seen.Thank you !!!!

[@RMTTR640]

Thank you jocko and jose for this incredible journey and the many lessons to be learned and cherished in ones life

[@framerme]

Thanks for your time.

[@rperez4852]

Awesome podcast, totally can relate to this man's story as a Mexican-American from East LA... Much respect thanks

[@ethostattoo2172]

I do not get to listen to all of episodes you put out,but when ever I do I get a lot out of it man. It’s always an eye opener. This story is amazing.

[@yivanmartinez595]

Gratitude is a powerful feeling.

[@billylucius9960]

Best Podcast Ever. Seriously... He can learn what is already done later ®. Seriously inspiring... Amen.

[@mikeulrich535]

11 rejection letters and he was already a rocket scientist!

[@markm1832]

Thank you for this podcast, been watching for a very long time. Just saying the influencing like the teacher had meaning on your guest, your podcast has done the same for me. Acceptance of deviation hit home in my work place hit home.

[@CHI-Town_WhiteBread]

I have SO MUCH respect for hispanic MEN who work hard in a foreign land, all day, seven days per week; in the HOT sun and then go home and raise children, while protecting and supporting a family, all with positivity and thanks for their jobs! You don't see that in the "LBC."

[@michaelford1602]

This gives people another view of immigrants and what they can contribute to this country! I absolutely loved this video! Your guest really touched my heart. I do believe immigration should be legal.

[@kanetexeira7642]

Jockooo perfect timing brother 🔥

[@SidiMansourYababa]

Yoooo mans makin million eurooos

[@SidiMansourYababa]

@Andrew Fine panzy manzy

[@DH-vt3ql]

Outstanding journey this gentleman has had.

[@diego17th]

Two inspiring men. Thank you Jocko!

[@aiafoa]

Echo Charles??

[@rezonite]

I think its the type of person he was as a child. His dad helped him along the way but the type of individual this person was at a young age. Really propelled him to do what he did in his life. IMO

[@BasicBeachCommunity1]

Great start. I'm going to finish the rest. My dad learned English with the Beatles music initially, ESL classes, and working.

[@Romeo-k1500]

Jocko’s “one world huh” had me laughing so hard!

[@jordankelly2863]

THIS IS A GREAT STORY AMERICA IS A GREAT COUNTRY WE ARE NOT A RACIST COUNTRY GOD BLESS AMERICA...

[@JohnDoe-yu2xw]

To level this out and keep an open mind you should have Eddie Bravo on next.

[@justincurrie6066]

Man I knew someone else would find this guy fishy

[@JohnDoe-yu2xw]

@@MM-eo2oz closed mindsget people hurt..

[@shanebaxter3500]

@@MM-eo2oz Bet you story Changes if ya ever meet him on the Mats.... But hey keep warriorin there ya keyboard commando.....

[@domhouse1]

Great episode. What an amazing story and an amazing story teller. Only disappointment is ordering his book from his website to Australia has $50 shipping on it! Tried to find local but could only find ebooks. Audio version coming out?

[@mayankrohinival]

2:49:33 these borders are what enables you to live in a world where all this was possible there are places where people do not have water to drink , food to eat & there are places where you will be killed if you dont follow their relegion . and try to look at night you can see my county' s border (LOC)😊.

[@TroyChadwell]

Powerful Jose Hernandez . Great podcast and story!

[@dannycalder1638]

You gotta love this guy. What a great story. 👍

[@amandamcdowell]

Awesome podcast. Inspirational. Bought the book!

[@travisboothe5670]

39:30 to 44:34 would be a good excerpt. The receipt to become an astronaut.

[@benbauer1065]

This was such a great guest to have on. I loved this episode.

[@gavansimkin5685]

#JockoWillink Some of the best Vietnamese Era War Stories I've heard were from 2 Tunnel Rats! When i met as a kid.

[@scaldeddogengineeringcolle7004]

That is a real story of perseverance.

[@Quit1011]

417am wake up 523am start the day with a Jocko Podcast.

[@gokutzinkukulkan7408]

Best Episode. Thank you Willink team.

[@frankperdue6585]

Great episode 🇺🇸👍🤘, Mom picked tomatoes all of her young life.

[@parkeranderson5074]

That was an awesome story!