Jocko Podcast 438: How We Can Learn From People We Don't Like or Agree With.

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Exploring 11 lessons in the book, "In Retrospect", to live a better more informed life.
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[@jameward.official]

Just got off night shift, time for legs.

[@Jujarm]

Powerful 💪

[@TampaTyphoon]

Nobody cares boy 😐

[@jameward.official]

@@TampaTyphoon just because ur a bum doesn’t mean everyone is

[@andredoyle1463]

@@jameward.officialbuddy your life sounds miserable

[@asimdeyaf]

You can't learn anything if you only listen to people you agree with.

[@devriestown]

That's why I will always recommend traveling. To open one's mind and see different things 👌👍🏻👌

[@Tehz1359]

A big bias today is that when you agree with specific thing a particular person said, people assume this must mean you endorse that person wholeheartedly. Which obviously doesn't need to be the case. As it turns out, reality is complicated and multifaceted. Why close yourself off to learning something from someone because they made mistakes, did some bad things, etc.?

[@stann6868]

They may even have a broader perspective. The more you do, the more you learn and also the more mistakes you make. Once heard it put, "if your messing up it means your doing something".

[@jeremybrimmer1990]

Tribalism is self abuse

[@devriestown]

Mate, I learned so much from listening to you at the gym. God bless 💪✝️💪 from New zealand 🇳🇿

[@richardseton7014]

As a comment on the ttimeframe for long haul strategic social change, it is useful to remember that it took seven generations to uplift 50% of England's poor into middle class citizens during the industrial revolution. The entrepreneurs had the wherewithal to accomplish this much quicker, and had strong Government support. What held the people back was the people themselves. Social change is daunting for exactly the reasons you have described.

[@Iksvomid]

Soldiers are like Christmas trees - green, big and the best ones are the most decorated.

[@eerrrrrrfolks]

🎄 merry cringemas 🎄

[@ToddJohnston-ty3xx]

Right or wrong. The country is the most important thing. In the end I hope changes are made to prevent this from happening again and let there be a lesson from it. God bless this country and support and always give thanks and show respect to your veterans. We owe it to them

[@danielmathews4926]

Keep on keeping on

[@jxntxn1462]

Echo, the prolonged closeups on jockos face are an interesting shot. I think i liked the old format better. Are people liking it better this way?

[@dosesandmimoses]

I’m so sorry for the fallen servicemen that were drafted into the war.. not only in Vietnam, but also Cambodia, Laos, etc. every serviceman is so valuable .. and their lives should be of utmost priority to the US. What was worse was the lack of support the troops received upon returning home. Words cannot express the level of appreciation I have for the courage our servicemen displayed. Thank you both for your conversations… I never want to risk the lives of the military for policies that were recommended by inaccurate information provided by intel that did not service the armed forces with the information needed to accurately assess the risks those troops would encounter. Every American life is so important.. and I’m so sorry it escalated to the extent that it did. I never want to forget those fallen to sacrifice their lives to this country’s ideals - only to see the constitution be altered less than 100 years later. Thank you for this tough conversation … gratitude.

[@luisladino6162]

I love this podcast

[@alexandermiller6583]

I keep having visions of echo Charles eating an entire box of donuts while wearing the discipline t shirt.

[@Abethesecond]

All ears on this one

[@benhenderson9018]

Good morning Echo

[@hensen5309]

Love the podcast❤️

[@kayfish7621]

You're 100% accurate, Jocko. You are a very close-minded individual. It is only your gift of choosing the people who can benefit you the most, then aligning their capabilities with YOUR desires, that has led to your success. "Disciplined Manipulation Equals Financial Success" should be the title of your next book.

[@arthurcitron9774]

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️spot on!

[@DrewbattleTheGreat]

Almost Every war we’ve been in could’ve been avoided if humans thought in terms of de escalation. Obviously sometimes you can’t pacify but a lot of times America didn’t need to get involved

[@Sailor202]

Humble pie

[@SirZim]

WARRIOR KID MOVIE?!?!? GET SOME

[@rlmcdaniel8054]

Can echo share some advice for us Google podcast red circle members having to make the change to KZbin music.

[@dabsindeeddabsindeed7205]

The new code name dynamite just came out …..we need dr. Thompson back for a follow up …plz ..and thanks . Sincerely addicted macv-sog reader 😂

[@Dggb2345]

Mundane boring comment but please put a high pass filter into Jocko’s mic audio path. Put on some great headphones and listen. You’ll hear plosive pops throughout. It’s distracting plus it’s using bandwidth taking away from fidelity without adding anything.

[@Dana19443]

43:38 👍

[@johnmorrow5461]

I highly recommend watching the 2003 documentary, influenced by his 11 lessons, titled The Fog of War: Eleven Lessons from the Life of Robert S. McNamara. It's an interesting well-made documentary, even if you don't agree with everything he says (I don't). It covers his life, including stories about WW2 and Ford. Here is a segment where he talks about the firebombing of Japan during WW2 (something a lot of people don't know about): kzbin.info/www/bejne/noCmipadhNOKi68

[@GozarianGozar]

Yes. This is a great documentary,

[@dabsindeeddabsindeed7205]

Maybe get tilt and dynamite in at the same time …..that would be legendary

[@tizza963]

Jocko should talk about Chris Kyle 👍🏿

[@alexb7641]

BEEFCAAAAAKE!!!!

[@matics358]

Redbar’s watching.

[@cichoslaw]

How do you feel about admiral Ernest King?

[@MadeSportsEntertainment]

28:35 sen dick russell would become pivotal in the warren comission investigation of jfk

[@4englishlies875]

Hey Echo I don't know if this is a internet thing or a me thing, the sound for me was about 1.5 seconds behind the video. If this is a me thing then cool I guess.

[@zenthegeneral]

Eventually you can read the Commie Manifesto by Marx and break that down too. Take the learning from people you don't care for to the next level The Vietnam war is quintessential example of not learning much

[@TheCriticalChris]

57:23 - We shouldn’t want governmental leadership “loyal to the Presidency, and to him” (the President). Rather, we should want folks loyal to the Constitution of the United States, and its separation of powers, including the CONGRESSIONAL powers of war-making specified within our Constitution. Unitary executive theory, where we have seen U.S. Presidents become more and more unilaterally powerful has been one of the worst perversions of the Constitution in recent decades.

[@robertb9779]

Hey, Jocko. You don't know me, but I keep letting you down and I'm tired of it.

[@ArmlessWaiter123]

I feel bad for Echo just having to sit there.

[@TampaTyphoon]

He loves it

[@JohnDoe-yu2xw]

Iraq 2.0 was kind of a cakewalk too, it was the staying there and having soldiers be policemen part that got the coalition into trouble. I am sure jocko can attest to that.. Same with afghanistan. But i get the intent , smelled it about ten mins in. I also smell that there must be some serious russian money floating around somewhere down the line in the right wing grifter sphere. Just fyi.

[@brandonleeps]

RFK Jr. is a nut.

[@TEM1]

Well, you could pay the restitution you owe for maliciously felony stalking me and serve prison time for involving yourself in a terrorism campaign against your own people

[@jeremybrimmer1990]

Have you watched the videos of biden pinching children?!?

[@onlyenzoYT]

I fell asleep with youtube on and forced me to watch like 40 videos of yours 💀💀💀🤦🏽‍♂️

[@mikewillis920]

Shutp

[@Jbad99]

Jocko is a war criminal, allegedly

[@renewed6250]

Alleged by who, what are the allegations, and what is the evidence? Don't bring up Deming and GB chronicles...it was a rhetorical question. At any rate, glad you took the time to provide his podcast a view just to post that? So actually Jocko is not an alleged war criminal even according to Deming. Who also, did not realize that a marine who reported to the XO he posted a letter from, totally called out the info in the letter and the XO. Before GB and Deming even brought him on. Once I posted that video, he reached out to that guy, who then posted another video really wanting to just back out of the whole thing and not be involved. To date, Deming has simply repeated what is already known about Kyle, and made generalizations about jocko...and seems to have totally dropped the 'NSW contracts' claim. His statements and the 2 Marines thst were on could be summed up as: Hey we are saying many years ago we saw some behaviors by seals that reported to him that were not good. OK. I told Deming, vet your sources and get real info. I also told him, gather evidence and report to DoD and DoJ...instead he goes on GB and says he fears a lawsuit. Well, you can't be sued successfully if it is true. Simply submit the evidence. To date...it is all girl talk.

[@jeremybrimmer1990]

This comment right here.

[@DouglasRamirez-dj7sd]

How so ?? I've never heard of this.

[@buffhorses3632]

@@DouglasRamirez-dj7sd Because they delete negative comments.

[@jeremybrimmer1990]

@@DouglasRamirez-dj7sd "allegedly". Not "under oath". Also it's election year.