Joe Bonamassa Says THIS Is Guitar’s Greatest Threat!

[@TomButwin]

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[@jasondorsey7110]

The "concert afterglow" where you feel the effect of extreme stage volume the rest of the night...this generation of soft little pansies don't know what they're missing

[@sgtcaco]

As long as there are drummers there will be amps.

[@darrencole1387]

I was a stage tech in a soft seat theatre years ago. The Toronto Philharmonic were on the bill and was setting up. (I am a rocker ie. Marshall’s, Les Paul, etc). Anyway, when the orchestra started to play and hit some crescendo parts, it literally frightened me and made the hairs on the back of my neck stand to attention! I have never forgotten that power! It was awesome and it ROCKED! Tell them to turn down???? Ah….no..

[@Rickyboricky]

You know that feeling when you play loud enough that the feedback resonates through your guitar and your body? When you hit that sweet spot and lose yourself in the music? That's the stuff....✌️

[@TomButwin]

That's it! Can't replace it.

[@robert_starling]

Great description in your video! We see another self admittedly "loud" player, Matt Schofield play locally 4-5 times a year in a small venue here in Boca Raton, FL called The Funky Biscuit. I've also taken a three day workshop with Matt. He plays Two-Rock amps with a clear sound baffle in front so not to blast / overwhelm the audience sitting at stage floor height. He and Joe are very dynamic players from a whisper to a roar. Matt sets his amp volume and the rest is in his use of the guitar volume / tone knobs and his hands. You can definitely feel the air moving but his tone is so amazing and dynamic, it is loud but not piercing / screeching painful loud. I tried a Kemper for two years during the pandemic because my wife had to work from home. As much as she loves my playing and singing, she was on back to back Zoom calls all day so I ended up on in-ears and studio monitors too... but something was missing and that was the air moving and interacting with the guitar. Now that she's back to the office, I'm back to a Two-Rock through an OX box in the room... BUT... I'm still using in-ears because I like the mix and vocals better. One of the things I had Ultimate Ear do with my most recent custom molds was to have the "open canal" for each in ear which helps me with my mix as well; I still get a little ambient / live sound in my ears, I feel the air in the room and I have the perfect mix for me. There's tiny little stoppers to close of the ambient canal if you want that too. For me, this setup has become the best of both worlds in a practical and artistic sense.

[@flyonwall360]

As an older guitar player, I like to not just hear the music but feel it as well. Recently, my hearing diminished to the point that I was considering leaving the band. And no, my hearing loss was not caused by loud music. It was caused by 105mm howitzers when I was in the 101st Airborne. I was considering in-ear monitors but wasn't sure if that would correct the problem. Fortunately, the VA was able to get me some new hearing aids. And though in-ear monitors can be expensive, they don't necessarily take into consideration an individual's hearing loss or tinnitus. I am fortunate enough to have the VA pick up the tab because these new hearing aids are between $7-8k. I have an app that I can customize and a setting just for music. I can now hear what I'm playing and what the rest of the band is playing. I remember growing up in the same area as Joe Bonimasa, and it was common back in those days to hear garage bands letting their neighbors know that someday they may be filling a stadium. By the time Joe came around, I knew my stadium dreams were over. I'm glad to see Joe succeed where so many have failed.

[@ryangunwitch-black]

Firstly, thank you for your service. Secondly, you’re correct. Amps on stage pushing air is the only way to go.

[@frantisca]

I'm an older player too and I developed Tinnitus. What is the device/app you are referring to ?

[@musicmann1967]

Joe's not wrong. In the same interview that they grabbed the quote from he went on to say he has it so he can hear and feel guitar anywhere he goes on stage, and grab some feedback if he wants to, in a few different sweet spots. He has it pretty loud onstage, but that's exactly how we want to experience him and his guitar playing, with his guitar always interacting with the amps. He was just saying it (low stage volume and in-ears) doesn't work for him.

[@TomButwin]

Yup. It's his show. It just wouldn't work any other way. The guitar, amp, and room all interact. No amount of modeling can really replicate. It's no different than a real, acoustic piano vs. the greatest keyboard with insane samples. It'll get close, but never replace it...and sometimes (unfortunately) the keyboard just make more sense.

[@LyonByTheSea]

Yes that quote was out of context somewhat, I hate when they do that. Joe explained it very well

[@landon.cunningham]

I have a lot of experience with this and here's the deal - going silent works ok if everything is silent. However - the minute the drummer complains about needing a real set vs electric cause it just doesn't feel right and you give him that and wall off and mic it - and the bass player needs his amp to connect with the room - then you need guitar amps out there too that can sit with all that room acoustic stuff going on. I have seen it countless times - and it just doesn't work if you have the guitar going direct and other things resonating acoustically. The guitar amp needs to connect with the room - even if it's mic'd - it just adds something that's indescribable. I say we need to push back against all this nonsense - get the amps back out - and bring back the music. If you want to use a modeler that's fine - that's pretty much all I use - but then go direct AND go into the return of an amp and dial up the volume in the room a little - it just adds something that can't be replicated the other way around. On that same topic - studio monitors sound good, in ear monitors sound good - but FRFR in the room to replace a real amp just sounds like absolute trash no matter how you spin it. I've tried every FRFR solution I can get my hands on - did the EQ thing to cut where needed yada yada - it just doesn't sound right. You know that feeling you get when you walk by someone and they are playing in the store or something and you just have to see how they are getting that tone? It's always an amp - it's never FRFR.

[@mikeb5372]

For recording it's fine to use a modeler. Playing live I don't even mic my amp and I don't even use a monitor for vocals. It's really a matter of personal choice and I don't blame anyone for trying to preserve their hearing

[@50gary]

1968, the MC5 Sunn amps on 10 is 'the' electric rock sound. Deafening off the stage also the PA reinforcement creates a surreal experience. Dangerous SPL for sure but that sound is that sound, in ear and conversational levels are another thing entirely.

[@RobertPeacockGuitar]

I played metal in the day. I showed up with a 12 watt Marshall for a gig and the sound man at the end of the show said I was the first guitarist that he was ever able to mix in the band! I heard my playing perfectly in the monitors and we had a polished mix. The club owner stated that we were one of the most professional sounding band he booked at his venue. I went recently to a local show at a club and the sound was ridiculously loud and the mix was terrible... why, well the guitarist had a cranked Marshall stack! The stage volume ruined the complete mix for the WHOLE band. I shouted whole to emphasize band. I believe that a good sound at volume that everyone can be heard is more important than a cranked up! I find it funny when some folks state the it's fake if you don't have an amp. I will admit that I play a different style of music now and don't need nor want a cranked Marshall, but I never real have. I still like some dirt to my sound and find the new digital world allows for this without the painfully loud volumes. I also like a clean stage with just musicians not a lot of unnecessary gear and clutter. I don't think Joe is right. I don't think guitar is going end because of digital processing either. I do think, at least at the club stage, they are going to want more silent stages though.

[@aRRRaiS]

I also played metal gigs with combos tamed by sensitive sound guys and man what a awful sound it was, like NOT loud fart.

[@BobEstremera]

"Quiet yelling". Brilliant analogy.

[@TomButwin]

Thank you. I was proud of that one lol

[@anthonymichael3029]

I try to split the difference and use cranked amps but will bring a baffle when needed to try to mitigate my stage volume. I try to work with the sound guy as much as I can. I’ve yet to experience a “silent stage,” and quite frankly I’m worried about the day I run up against such a scenario as I don’t have the gear for that (digital/direct).

[@TomButwin]

You bring up a good point. Anymore, you kind of have to have both if you're in the "working" guitar world. You'll run into it eventually. Do you bring some of your guitar back into a wedge when using that baffle?

[@jochemjonker3362]

An you imagine Jimmy Hendrix with in ear,using modelling sounds?, No he used the power and sound level pressures of his Marshall Super Lead Amps,to perform at it best. Volume and sound pressure levels have a big influence on the guitarplayer and his performance.

[@anthonymichael3029]

@@TomButwinI do. I don’t usually like to have guitar in my monitor, but you gotta do what you gotta do I suppose.

[@donaldrowe8460]

when you play at volume the guitar and amp become one and it is a whole different experience! It isn't about "sound" but about experience and the harmonics that happen are different

[@robertcarey3383]

Joe is right, loud = excitement. What is more exciting to watch...... a Hemi Cuda with open headers or a Tesla, A 2stroke dirt bike with an open expansion chamber or a new 4 stroke that sounds like a lawn mower, A blown fuel hydro or a boat with an outboard motor. Take the loud out of music and it is going to die.

[@TomButwin]

I never thought of the Hemi vs Tesla comparison. It's a good one.

[@dansomerville]

Ya playing with a click and auto-tune made things easier too….not sure it made music any better. The whole super polished live music sets are boring as hell.

[@bks252]

I’ve tried both and I just can’t get the sounds I like through the stomps. I’ve tried several of them and I’m sure it’s in my head but I just prefer my pedalboard with either my Mesa or my Dr Z, even if they have to be turned down some or I use my Dr Z attenuator. Even when I play in church, I use an amp and I don’t play in a really large church. It’s just my opinion and I realize that each person has different wants and tastes and likes their own thing and I’m cool with what anyone wants. Our bass player usually runs through a multi pedal straight to the board then uses in-ears and the rest of us use amps and it’s cool. Each to their own.

[@TomButwin]

To each their own is really it. Overall, the gig and performance dictates what works. Sounds like you've got your situation figured out!

[@gregcameron5079]

High school marching bands can be heard over a mile away with all acoustic instruments

[@jayceburns8246]

The whole argument for low stage volume falls apart if there are acoustic drums being played. Nobody seems to be pushing for electric drums only. What about a silent orchestra. Tell opera singers to chill out with there volume?

[@gsauce132able]

Part of being a good guitar player is being able to play cleanly and accurately at loud/insane volumes. Part of the fun of playing live music is having the room vibrate with sound and having the dust vibrate of your pants!

[@matthewtaylor1798]

Well, I think for Joe B, "real" amps work like you said, and by all means he should rock on cranked to 11. But for me, I have a Boss ME-80, which lets me do just about anything I could ever need and more. And for the places I get to play (churches and small venues) it fits perfectly. Either way, thanks Tom for another video!

[@TomButwin]

Perfect example of the particular setting or gig really determining what’s best! Both can coexist…and they really have to these days!

[@trigliderider]

What Joe should have said was it was GREAT guitar sounds biggest threat.

[@truescotsman4103]

I totally agree. Carry around a fucking toaster in a suitcase for gigs. If I get to choose what do you think I'm gonna choose?

[@TomButwin]

Toaster=Kemper lol I love that reference.

[@DLH.23]

Its so much more fun to play in venues that let you play at the volume you practice at. Whatever volume that may be......

[@kmarchi1]

I've played a thousand shows with my real amps and with my Kemper with in ears. Both have its place but no in ears loud and proud is my preference. As long as the crowd can have a good time too I will always use real amps.

[@TomButwin]

This is the take. They both have to coexist, but one is always just a compromise. Thanks for the comment!

[@michaelgarcia2050]

You can crank digital modeling amps and get the same feedback.

[@mikeb5372]

If you can't have a stage volume then what do you do with the drummer? Electric drums? Please! I just wouldn't play gigs of that sort

[@TomButwin]

Throw them in a plexiglass box...or just let the Ableton backing tracks take care of it lol! I kid. I kid. Can't replace a hard hitting drummer.

[@Skoora]

Silent stages may or may not endanger guitar but they definitely endanger any fun to be had playing Rock n Roll. Do people even remember what it feels like to be at a rock show where you feel it vibrating your bones, not just hear it. Don’t reduce it to being at a damn board meeting. So glad my gigging years were long before this crap became a thing. We still had ear plugs back then. There was no danger to your ears if you cared to protect them.

[@TAM-gz5tc]

Live concerts with no amps on stage equals a shit sound for player and audiance alike .

[@TomButwin]

I think it definitely means a different experience for the players, but I'd say the majority of the listening public won't know either way. Guitar players, yeah, but most people in the audience aren't listening that way. I envy them lol.

[@johnsmith-ug5tp]

He is right if you are able to play a big venue or you are a person like him that can draw 4000+ people to a show. However, as with your example of a small company promotion gig or a company party, 95% of people will not tolerate a cranked tube amp. Heck, Most people dont even want to hear a cranked amp inside a small sized club/bar. Sadly, those days are gone. What is ironic, these same people will go to a rave/drug party club and have no issue with a PA blasting crushing syn/techno beats from giant speaker cabs. For several years I have said that guitar rock/blues is going the way of the big band music era. Extinct. RIP 😉☹

[@TomButwin]

Well, to be fair, the gig I mentioned was a massive hall with 2,000 people (not a brag. I was onstage for 2 min haha). The nature of the gig would have been impossible to do with a real amp. I get your point though! Actually, though, I would say your typical “bar band” is probably not micing amps, so you might be able to get away with cranking a smaller/mid-size amp! Maybe that’ll be the saving grace?

[@johnsmith-ug5tp]

Sorry about that, and good for you. 👍😊Yes, hopefully. @@TomButwin

[@richardpierce7819]

I'm an old school guitarist and I will never give up my old tube amps. I like em loud and hot.

[@harleyhexxe9806]

Figure out how to bring the level of acoustic drums down to that level on stage, then come talk to me about that. Even with plexiglass baffles, those drums are still going to be way above that level. Most drummers I know can't afford the electronic kits that sound good enough, and don't like them anyway since they don't feel like drums should. So as a guitar or bass player, we're caught in the middle.

[@TomButwin]

This is a really good point. There's a certain way a drummer has to hit (usually pretty hard) to get things to pop the right way...and it's just louder. Now, one can overboard with that, but drums take volume to sound right...and guitars need to match that energy. It's a weird thing. Many different ways to do it, but guitar amps are tough to beat!

[@harleyhexxe9806]

@@TomButwin Technically speaking, the electric guitar is incomplete by itself, it's only complete when it has an amplifier. That's how it was intended to be. If you think back to why the electric guitar was invented, it was because the acoustic guitar was getting buried with the horns of the big bands of the day. No one could hear it.

[@jerryfraker377]

I liked the original iron chef that was made in japan.

[@RedMercuryBluesBand]

Good info - I appreciate that you look at the camera lens - I know sounds like a weird thing to say BUT it really helps connect - at least with my ADD brain - LOL

[@TomButwin]

Where else would I look! Haha

[@RedMercuryBluesBand]

a large number of content creators are looking at themselves - John Mayer just did a short clip on how we are so used to the spokesperson not looking at the camera and only their own image that he made a joke about it.

[@jeremythornton433]

As an old rock musician, I see pluses and minuses on both sides of the issue. A digital amp model with no speaker is not going to help give you the resonant sustain and/or feedback that a loud live amp will. But in ears can really help save your hearing as long as you keep them at a safe level. Taking a big amp into a small club has always seemed dumb to me. Also, the P.A. needs to really be set up right. It depends on the gig and the type of band you're in.

[@TomButwin]

Could not have said it better myself. Thanks, Jeremy!

[@kansasblues]

dude the smell of OZONE on a stage from high powered amps is glorious, on the other hand i believe it’s a miracle from the Lord I still have good hearing😀

[@TomButwin]

Lol!! Some people get lucky, that’s for sure.

[@arielcandoleta5347]

Being able to hear the whole band in a live performance much clearer without any noise from the crowd is much better in my opinion. That is the reason why IEM's exist.

[@yaniv-nos-tubes]

ok i'm a heavyweight . ive been working for a backline company in israel on live gigs in the last ten years let me tell you how it is the way i see it: 1.backline rental amps are random garbage joe b and john m don't have that problem,they have the best amps and the best amp techs. 2.there is a way to make backline amps work and sound amazing: tube maintenance upgraded speakers,selecting the right size amp for the venue!(no one asks for a deluxe reverb only hotrods or twins) 3.sound engineers and producers should let the artist sound the way he wants live and in the studio. 4.don't ever forget what sounds real what inspires you to play. if you have a solo through a dense mix you want a tube amp modelers lack presence. 5.after watching many players go to the dark side with modelers ive decided to spoil the ones that still use amps so they play live with nos tubes like there is no tomorrow.

[@louieeization]

I’m a bit flexible, I prefer using different amps at different volume to play live, it really depends how big the venue or club is, I don’t mind digital modeller for recording or home use or small project

[@TomButwin]

Flexible is the way to be. In my opinion, you've got to be able to live in both of those worlds!

[@GordonPavilion]

Sound Fidelity (hi-fi) is the enemy of ensemble.

[@stevenpipes1555]

I don't completely disagree with Joe but hes missing 75%of the story. Joe has the exquisite luxury of guitar being his job. Playing to large rooms means he needs practice spaces that allow him to practice at loud volumes. But what he is not figuring into his calculus is that 75% of players are hobbyists who may never play to any real audience. The electric guitar is a major part of my soul and passion. I play every day and collect build and modify guitars as well. But its a hobby. I have a Peavy combo amp that i cant even use most of the time because even at the lowest usable volume its just too loud. I also have a Spark 40 that i use every single night. I can play after my daughter is in bed at night because it sounds amazing even at low volume. If i had a Marshall stack for instance, it would be an expensive decoration. But the electric guitar is no where near dying for me, even at low volume. 75% of players are just like me. We aren't losing interest because we can't crank a Marshall. On the contrary, good low volume tech is making it easier for guys like me to embrace the instrument even more!

[@GordonPavilion]

I totally and absolutely disagree with Joe Bonamassa. …also, I totally and absolutely agree with Joe Bonamassa.

[@rsaragosa]

Most of the time our band still gets to use real amps and I love that. I have played in many Worship band situations and it is always in ear monitors which I hate because they just don't sound good .

[@TomButwin]

I will say, as someone who is primarily a vocalist, when you have a good stereo IEM mix dialed in, there are few things better. BUT, when it comes to being an instrumentalist, I feel like it’s always a compromise.

[@sparkyguitar0058]

I played in a worship band situation for a while. We all had IEM and there were small amps on stage. I had mine set on that back so my sound pointed straight up. And I stood near enough to hear myself and a P A monitor near me. The only problem was the main player ,the keyboard, had his amp pointed toward the back of the room( where I was) and it's louder than anything else. Basically that's all I heard. So that didn't work out to well. I eventually gave up that position and it's never been filled yet. What sucks is growing up with big wattage amps all my life,affording a Boogie finally and now it's out of style. Actually got 3 100 watt guitar combo amps and a 300 watt bass combo amp. I GOT THE POWER ! Now where can I use it! L O L

[@hoboroadie4623]

Just got little McKenna hooked up with her new Gio Mikro today. Clearly not getting the right tone with three little ten Watt amplifiers, so its three sixty Watt amps tomorrow. If she ever hears about amp simulators it won't be from me.

[@TomButwin]

That’s quite a rig!

[@ryangunwitch-black]

…also, as much as I love ‘tallica, their live guitar sounds are severely lacking these days. Sure, they’re perfect and consistent night to night but I saw an indie band with a few vintage Fender amps and an ampeg blow them sonically off the stage.

[@loudguitar]

Tubes need to cook, the speaker and cabinet need to resonate.I am not techphobic, but just old school. If I was still playing a lot in my cover band, I would probably, for convenience sake, and to get lots of different tones, go with a modeler, but not in ears.I still would want the wedges to hear the guitar and monitor vocals.

[@Annunaki_0517]

No one alive can tell the difference between a Helix amp model and the real amp in a club setting, let alone an arena (where the sound is always sub-par). Ive got a Fender Super Reverb, a 50w Plexi, and an AC30, they all weigh a ton, and they’re a bit fragile. Ive never taken more than one of them out to play a show, but with the Helix, I have those three and about 30 more with me at all times. I’ve stopped lugging amps and my pedal board around since Christmas 2016 when I found a Helix under the tree (my wife is awesome, she combed every guitar shop in the country to find one that first Xmas they appeared). Helix gets better and better with every firmware update, and those updates are always free, it’s like getting a package of new gear surprises twice a year! Vintage amps are fun, but require a LOT of expensive maintenance, the Helix requires none. Line 6 literally built a better mousetrap.

[@picksalot1]

Totally agree, and thanks for saving me a lot of typing. 😎

[@TomButwin]

All good points on the Helix world. They are surprisingly great. My first experience was with that HX Stomp, and for the modeling thing and their interface, it's really great. I think you hit on something really important here. The listening audience isn't really going to be able to tell a difference. That's true. It's the performers who are experiencing a completely different environment on stage with each approach. I might have to get myself a Helix...but I'm keeping my Deluxe Reverb!!

[@mikeb5372]

I've never played a Helix but I've noticed people speak highly of them. I used to have a Digitech rp500 and the beauty of those modelers to me is the pleasure I got from the hours and hours of experimenting with the endless options. I can imagine how enjoyable the vastly superior Helix would be compared to the 20 year old Digitech

[@yaniv-nos-tubes]

your amps are too big for your gigs, real tube amps and speakers sound livelier and warmer i work on gigs and get to hear the difference every day,modelers are ok for backing ,clean stuff.the distortion sounds like a clean boost with reverb and gets lost through a dense mix. keep waiting for the next update to fix your tone.

[@picksalot1]

@@TomButwin I've used an HX Stomp for about 2.5 years, and love it now. Initially, the tones were too bright and harsh for my liking. I went down many a rabbit hole trying to figure out what settings made the biggest and most effective tone shaping. They are the Cab selection, "High Cut" setting on the Speaker, and Mic. For some reason, Helix has the Speaker High Cut Parameter set at a default of 8k, but almost all real Speakers have a sharp downward slope in their Frequency Response at about 5k. Changing that one Parameter easily fixed the harshness issue I was having.

[@ryangunwitch-black]

Too many people coming from praise and worship land and thinking they’re gonna take all of that to actual venues. One of the places I’ve been playing since the early 2000’s often asks us to TURN UP. 😊It’s the same venue the Melvins play when they’re in Jacksonville. Tell King Buzz-O to turn down. 😅😂😂

[@henrydanielgatlin9774]

Joe’s comment is unrealistic hyperbole. The camera was not the end of painting. The synthesizer was not the end of piano. I was a “purist” until the technology of modelers caught up. I still have my 67 Bandmaster and 70’s Twin Reverb, but the Boss Gx-100 is so infinitely sculptable I’m finding it impractical to return to tubes. With FrFr speakers, I get tons of tonal flexibility that wasn’t there before.

[@LyonByTheSea]

I like the on stage amp rig.

[@bunditthianthong]

analog latency = 0 .

[@TomButwin]

You're not wrong. It's absolutely a thing.

[@christiansoronen813]

I aspire to have a room as aesthetically pleasing as yours.

[@TomButwin]

You know, that’s a compliment I never anticipated receiving lol. Thank you.

[@EzraMF]

It's a novelty to use a real amp. A lot of folks are living in small apartments and can't afford a bigger place. It will always be better to play real amps really loud. Nothing will ever replace that. But in my opinion, being able to play modelers is what will keep guitar playing alive in and of itself.

[@Dan-of-NJ]

My Marshall agrees with Joe

[@TomButwin]

🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@rjo8500]

They already nurtured guitar players with dat deadly volume prohibition. 😂

[@Johnny-oy9fh]

He's right!!!

[@TomButwin]

He's definitely got a point! What's your amp of choice?

[@Johnny-oy9fh]

@@TomButwin loud ones

[@joemasse4568]

Real tube amps are the only way, a guitar player can get the optimal sound and touch, digital pedals are fine for practice,beginners travel,sometimes recording, but when I’m playing my guitar out I want the best sound I can get. Why is it music from 40 50 years ago was much better and the playing was much more accomplished, because it was real!

[@MrMcflanigengaming]

If I can’t play through a tube amp I’ll just not play out.

[@TomButwin]

I don't think anyone will stop you from walking into a club with a Blues Junior!

[@timeWaster76]

I guess Les Paul ruined the guitar .....

[@davidg-oo1ox]

To quote the late great Frank Zappa: " Shutup and play your guitar"

[@TomButwin]

The best advice. For real.

[@VideoMcVideoface]

The biggest threat to guitarists is high density housing.

[@Mr_Wilson_1967]

We don't use amps. No guitar, bass or keys amped. Drum kit is digital too. All in ear monitors. Once you get use to it. It is a better music is a business model. The venues/clients that hire us prefer it. Some demand it. It's work.

[@Jameschewingfoil]

To simplify what you said is that you’re not a musician but a computer programmer.

[@drloqutis2492]

Joe is absolutely right!!!!

[@TomButwin]

I'm not gonna argue with him. He's a master.

[@rareform6747]

YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! F Mayor

[@TomButwin]

Mayer for Mayor?

[@aRRRaiS]

Yeah thats what is killing rock n roll, it used to be loud now is castrated.

[@garymccoy6564]

I think it is an issue, but calling it a threat is nonsense. I'm sure there were plenty of guitarists who thought the advent of the electric guitar was the end of the worldd.

[@MrPorter7]

Joe is correct.

[@simpsimpson5175]

Noone gives a flying f---..audiences just want to hear the correct notes being played! Do you want me to repeat that?

[@TomButwin]

The musicians on stage care. It matters and changes things for them the most. You’re mostly right (ish) about audiences…but every audience is different. JB’s audience absolutely cares.

[@simpsimpson5175]

@@TomButwin JB should change his initials to AI - not much difference as far as i can hear