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[@joex]

awesome my friend!!!! TOPS would never send me a blade too!!! if u need some pics from the "grain structure" of the PUSSE blade, just tell me!!!!! greets!!!

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Yeah please send some over to [e-mail] if you don't mind! I sent you an email but maybe it went to your spam folder.

[@jimbusmaximus4624]

Im old school with my tools and knives. I dont abuse them, and I cringe at the people who insist every knife should be able to baton and then complain when their blade snaps. But I'm a fan of Joe X. He shows knives to us in a different light and gives us a much better idea of their limits and capabilities in an extreme survival scenario. He provides data nobody else wants to pay for. Not to mention he's funny as hell. ✌🏼

[@joex]

[@jimlahey5623]

Yeah those busse knives are overpriced as hell... for what they are. Kabars bring same quality, esee is better. Stop support pusse!

[@siegfriedwashburn3484]

Joe X is my brother in arms. He is awesome!

[@bobbie4862]

Huge fan of Joe X. He really provides a perspective that was needed. Look how many people trashed Cold Steel because of the abuse they put their locks through. Yet we see even Joe X couldn't destroy a few of them. The more expensive manufacturers are pissed because companies like Cold Steel and Esee are outperforming knives of far higher cost. Honestly, I was going to buy a Busse Team Gemini Ultra Light until I seen the video. The Operator 7 performed far better and the Esee 5 and 6 were phenomenal at a 5th of the price. I am going to stick with my Esee's.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

The operator 7 performed better than something else? That was a nightmare! And no matter what independent journalism is needed, so big 👏🏻 to Joe x even if he isn't scientific. He is shaking things up and thats great!

[@bluewinterwolf]

R.I.P JOE X's channel.

[@heyarno]

I do like what Joe X does. It's so different from what I do with knifes. But I learned to take valuable information from his work. It makes me think about use cases, design elements that I should reconsider in my home made knifes and my personal fitness.

[@erikhansen8235]

Great job brother, and the comments on 'blade forums' and information sustainability is absolutely spot on!!! Love ya brother! Erik Hansen of FOBOS Knives

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@tmille10]

Great video and very true words and opinions spoken, unbelievable they forced him out and censored his approach to keep transparency in this thing we love.

[@JDStone20]

This is what Cliff Stamp used to do, and he was almost universally hated and despised. I say this as a friend of Cliff. We still have his old forum up and running if anyone wants to read his old reviews, and his KZbin channel should still be up. If I recall correctly, the Busse knives are the only ones that Cliff said he couldn't break.

[@LuisGonzalez-gl4wc]

Do you have a link to forum?

[@mariaconcepcionrodriguezhe2850]

I discovered his channel right after he died:( baller high brow content

[@JDStone20]

@@mariaconcepcionrodriguezhe2850 yeah, good stuff on his channel. Often the videos are linked to ongoing discussions on the old forum of his

[@VikingcustomLeather]

I remember the old cliff stamp reviews on bladeforums & all the hate he used to get there . Blade forums was the place to be in the late nineties early 2000s …

[@JDStone20]

@@VikingcustomLeather Yeah, I had followed cliffs work all the way from the usenet messages, and on bladeforums, knifeforums, and his forums, all the way since the late 1990's. I was proud to know him and call him a friend. He had a PhD in Physics, so he was really good at setting up experiments and getting good numbers out of those experiments so you could compare things better

[@snowman7161]

Thanks for this video, now he's gone, that makes this video so much more relevant. Your painfully right

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Man I'm still having a hard time dealing with that tbh

[@snowman7161]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors same here

[@wolfhja8734]

Outstanding comment, evaluation and sum up !!!! Bravo!!

[@barrybaldwin5535]

I appreciate you for your "balls out" honesty & transparency, which in my book verifies your integrity as someone that I can trust. I'm a big fan of Joe X because, at 74 years of age, I have collected, used & revered cutlery for decades. I also believe in the continuing education gleaned from his content, as well as the entertainment value.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Thanks! I am so glad that he is back!!!

[@WednesdaysWastWendigo]

Similar topic Jacob your review on the msk1 saved me a little over $300 I respect and I praise your honesty and I wish there were more people like you and Joe X out there

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Man that knife 😓 Lol

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Agreed with everything you say and actively pursuing the balanced unbiased and unaffiliated knife reviews.

[@TaunusTV]

This is the second time i´m watching this upload. I totally agree to every word you´re saying. A few weeks ago I went over to Joe X´s channel, watched a dosen vids, subscribed immediately. I, as a toolmaker have a feeling for steel, heat treatment and all that stuff and Joe X shows us what different types of steel/ hardening/ heat treatments/ blade geometrys, etc. (in extreme situations, LoL) can be capable of, or not 😂👍👍PS: I never use my knives as a skrewdriver ;-)

[@TheBudgetguy_K.T]

If i had the money i would love to test blades like Joe X he will be missed for testing knives

[@iscariotproject]

joex breaks myths around brands and that the dollar price tag is the same as quality,but hyping and marketing has created cults and followings around certain brands so people pay for something they arent getting,and it hurts peoples feeling because they spent the money into the image of something that isnt real.

[@JuaneDosesII-wj6dd]

But the tears of crushed fee-fees are delicious 😋

[@grumpyoldwizard]

Joe is like the older streamer NOS. I like his crazy durability tests. I also like your point of view. Subbed.

[@williamjordhamo1593]

I absolutely love joe x. He is what the world needs. Now I love tops knives but the ones I have are much older and are different from the new ones today. He made me fall in love with work Tuff knives and is the reason I bought a esse 4. He does it on his own dime. He would be the only guy I would help his patron. Keep going strong joe x

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

👆🏻💪🏻

[@rickc4317]

Excellent thoughts, Jacob, thank you.

[@henrythomasmarten]

Really good point about JoeX's method - science vs natural science - the information is qualitative not quantitive but is still valid.

[@brandonazevedo7560]

I agree 💯. If someone wants to stress test or f up. That I can learn from. As a grown man the best words of wisdom I've heard to this day. Learn from bad examples 😂

[@Mills141]

My favorite thing about knifes is the expensive raffle then purchase only ones that are just not that special 😂

[@bev8200]

Joe X is the reason I stopped buying expensive stainless knives and started buying cheap spring steel knives. They bend but they don’t break.

[@phila1714]

Joe X is a national treasure #freejoex

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

A world treasure lol

[@phila1714]

Yeah you're right brother my bad!

[@phila1714]

Oh yeah thanks for helping him and all that and for you to being the man👍

[@johncancel5116]

Maybe your best video to date. Nailed it.

[@ghostkeeper5910]

He was wrong about the untouchable comment

[@HeavySetTactical409]

Dude I agree with you whole heartedly I'm a small channel I do reviews on blades I purchase other then a tiny amount I get sent to me. But I am not taking a lot of blades offered cause if I purchase a balde and test it I am giving my personal honest opinion of blades I buy. I see these enormous channels basically doing commercials on knives I have had and hated so it's funny. Thanks for your honest testing and reviews and your great blades you made

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

For sure man! And everyone reading this should check you out!

[@HeavySetTactical409]

@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors because I switched shifts I have spent 2 months now hardly putting out anything but shorts. Tomorrow I switch back to normal so I'll be pumping out content again on schedule thanks Jacob! My boss loved the jackalope so much he offered me like 30p for it I said Dude you gotta get your own this is mine haha I gave him the exodus site

[@jimallen6856]

Subscribed to Joe, had to watch some before I knew who you were talking about but even not knowing the point is clear. I learn something every time I break something. I'm getting older so I'm breaking fewer things, guys like Joe and yourself allow me to keep learning at a faster pace.

[@jeffreybarton1297]

I love Joe X for the simple reason that any knife that can make it past his Stump test is a knife that I can buy with the certain knowledge that I, as a mild and careful knife user, will never break or damage in any serious way. He's very entertaining, too.

[@powerplay4real174]

Well said,👍

[@christopherlarson7579]

Hey bro! So can someone tell me what happened with Joe X Busse video, please? If not with Busse, who do you think influenced Joe X leaving?

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

To early to say. Hopefully Joe will tell us when it's over.

[@carlsalvato8530]

Id love to know what happened to those top knives you said sucked.sounds very interesting.keep it up man, glad i found your channel

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Joe X has the videos up.

[@bennorton7239]

Great video, definitely a lot of good points!

[@oldiron3735]

Unbiased reviews and unbiased tests are difficult to find

[@Obsidian-One]

We need Joe x!

[@jimmy_Ross]

BRO THERES NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH SO OWELL MAYBE IN THE NEXT LIFE JOE X WE NEED ALL KNIFE CHANNELS TO DO WHAT JOE X WAS DOING AND THE KNIFE COMMUNITY WOULD BE WAY WAY BETTER

[@biskutman7869]

DBK dose destructive testing, I quite like there knife tests.

[@brr8888]

Well said.

[@wellregulated8725]

Joe X is hilarious. People need to learn to take things for what they are. Joe is bringing forward great data…. Something like an accelerated life hard use review. It great to see what a knife can do. It would be nice to have some of the mat materials be more consistent…. But he’s doing it for free… So just appreciate it for what it is…. If nothing else is entertaining.

[@vinniepeters1936]

I like Joe X’s videos When he tested the Esee 6, the first thing he did was stabbing glass. The tip broke and he said, “Most tips break on most knives when you stab glass.” He was honest. The Esee 6 still outperformed and still impressed him. A true badass survivor knife.

[@SWORD1-cm4vb]

Good take on JoeX. First defense is he paid cash for knife, it’s his. End of story. It’s fun to watch him break knives. He is creative and seems to be enjoying himself. Gear guys get butt hurt if you talk about their chosen equipment and anything they’ve invested in. Always been that way, always will be. Anyways I hope more people stand up for him and what he does. I own half the knives he’s broken, hasn’t changed one thing about how I feel about them or how I use them. I sat and held my Apocalypse and my DBK knife while I watched him destroy them on screen. That hurt to watch but it was entertaining nonetheless. I don’t think criticism will slow him down, in the least. He probably doesn’t need to be defended. But you did a good thing making this video.

[@joex]

thanks! hate keeps me going even more hardcore!!! they will not know what hit them!!!!

[@SWORD1-cm4vb]

Dude just do what you do. Nothing else like it in the knife community. There’s a lot of guys that get what you’re doing. I know one thing. I will never loan you a knife. LOL Hate on bro.

[@nandayane]

I think Busse guys are butthurt because he just damaged the resale value of the knives in their safes. Destroying a knife can make people upset, Destroying that knife’s value on the secondary market will enrage people.

[@JuaneDosesII-wj6dd]

He’s not getting mine either ☺️

[@JuaneDosesII-wj6dd]

*damaged the butt

[@Shooter11B]

I love Joe-X, I really miss Nas-X. What actually happened to him? I believe that they serve a vital role in the industry as you detailed. They literally cut through the hype and show just how tough a particular knife is, and steel is. Joe has totally exposed the difference between old Cold Steel and new Cold Steel. Shame on Cold Steel by the way. Busse is and always has been a grail knife for me and a 100% class act as a company, since the first time I saw a Steel Heart advertised on the back cover of a Soldier of Fortune magazine. I actually had one in Iraq that came in handy during BBQ time(NMFBM), LOL.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

That's so cool that you had one in country! I had a $300 tops that came dull 😓

[@Shooter11B]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors It was fun to show off but I never carried it outside a ruck, lol. Well, maybe once, but that cured me of that idea. And sorry, I called him Nas, when it was Nos. He was not a gay rapper, lol.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@Shooter11B I was shoot on the Lil nass for a second but I figured it out hahahahahaha I carried a gg&g battle axe on my flc for awhile hahahahaha

[@Shooter11B]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors That is sick, brother!

[@Shooter11B]

@@Millstone_Justice Right?

[@marclucier2533]

Very well said. A lot of YT content creators who had awesome informative content have sadly become 35-40 min click bait. In my opinion

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Follow the $

[@joecampbell6486]

I love Joe X .. I think he's brilliantly funny and does great videos to prove knives are super inflated by corporation rip offs that spend more on advertising than on the products 😕😔

[@UrielsJunkDrawer]

Yes, freelance is important. I went to Joe X channel but did not see the video of a Busse test. I saw the Scrapyard though. Did he take it down?

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I'll check

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Maybe he did! He might have said some things that he regretted afterwords.

[@UrielsJunkDrawer]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Thanks for looking. I do have a few of the Busse knives. Mainly the "Battle Mistresses. Do you recall the model Joe X tested?

[@jimbusmaximus4624]

Look at his community section. It looks like he's editing some language out. He'll put it back up

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@UrielsJunkDrawer I think it was an anorexic... battle... something. It was an anorexic something lol. It was infi fwiw

[@Bman-xy2vh]

Was it a coincidence that I mentioned joe x in the last video or was it already planned. Please don't send him the workhorse to destroy that would be a waste of an awesome blade. Hope you and your family have a great Christmas. God bless, peace out.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

It was already planned, I was working on it hahahahahaha It will be interesting to see similaries and differences between our styles when we break the same model of knife!

[@nandayane]

I think JoeX values durability over everything, and doesn’t value the aspects of a knife that make it a good cutting tool. I think that is what may rub some people the wrong way. He also makes a show of being as disrespectful of brands or knives he doesn’t like as possible. I think some of his fans in the comments take it as gospel as well that if a knife breaks easily in abusive tests that it must be crap or a rip-off, which is kind of mis-informed opinion because it doesn’t account for how well a knife does it’s job as a cutting tool, that might piss people off more. That being said, I’m really glad he tested some Busse knives, it’s an old knife-maker’s trick to grind a knife impractically thick, then chop a nail in half and cut a piece of paper afterwards to show the edge is undamaged as a demonstration to sell knives at a fair or knife show. That’s essentially Busse’s marketing strategy with a mysterious proprietary steel thrown in as a justification for high prices. It’s really satisfying to see a $500 Busse (It did really well until it was stone time, but he did cut through a car door) do worse than an $80 Scrama(Which also is a fantastic cutting tool as well). JoeX does a service to the knife community because he routinely dismantles the marketing lie about durability demanding a premium, and shows instead the cheap knives usually make the best beaters.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I do think Joe X is testing toughness above all which is fine- I hope to be able to, and I hope the community also, takes his content and gives it some context talking about size, weight, force, bte measurements, etc. The character he plays is brash and crude and I understand people not liking that. He is doing what he loves so I'll take it! I am glad for the same reasons that he is doing what he is doing. All the fake toughness marketing of the 90's is a plague and Montana knife co started doing it to. I think cheap knives in many cases make better beaters because they are thinner and made of tougher steels. (420hc, aus8, and 12c27 are FAR tougher and better than they get credit for) but it doesn't take into account all the other things that do make an expensive knife good. So I agree with you all around, I'm glad we have him, and I'm glad I'm not the one doing his job because it looks like a TON of work! My hats off to the guy.

[@nandayane]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors the other cool thing is that the spectacle of it actually gets people into the knife hobby, folks already in it know the context of his tests.

[@JoeMac4100]

I like Joe x a lot more than I like blade forums. Sometimes if you have a different opinion about something they all gang up on you and they're like a big click. It was good in the past but it's not too good anymore.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

The experience you have on bladeforums can REALLY depend on what section you are in. All it takes is to be in one little spot on bladeforums and have ONE guy who ringleads that spot for you to have an awful experience there. When I was on bladeforums back in the day I had all kinds of trouble in the Becker section because TM Hunt decided he didn't like me and so far as I know continues to slander me to this day. However my experience in the Busse forums have been FAR superior. I think they key is to not engage- when someone shows that they are clearly toxic you can just hide them- hide the whole lot if you want- poof, problems gone. I had to do that to 2 people who literally would say any retarded thing just to be pissy. It's not worth trying to "win"- that's what they want you to do. Also, I intend to have my own sub forums. Ideally one for my brand and one for my channel as well.

[@JoeMac4100]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors I look at things a little different. If I find something that's more aggravation than it's worth I just don't go there anymore. End of problem

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Bladeforums is a hosting service like youtube. Leaving bladeforums because you had a bad experience in one place on bladeforums is like leaving youtube because you don't like my channel. Just fwiw

[@ronstecher4345]

It’s the brand loyalists who hate reviewers like Joe X the most. I like Joe’s reviews even though I would never use a knife like that. He exposes the b.s. used by marketing departments of knife companies who claim to be hard use or indestructible. When Nas broke a CRK, Bladeforums Chris Reeve fanboys lost their minds. When Cold Steel showed how poorly the frame lock on a Sebenza performed, same guys lost their minds. Why wouldn’t they? They paid $500 for a highly overrated knife. They are nice knives, I own some myself so I’m not a brand hater, but they are also way over priced. DBK does some fair reviews as does Cedric in Australia. Most knife reviewers are actually doing table top overviews, which are fine but they aren’t tests.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I love Pete at Cedric & Ada. DBK is just marketing. "My esee 5 is too soft to even make a spear" 😓

[@4449John]

I might have a clue who was among the more outspoken in this JoeX censoring situation. JoeX was interesting, though some of his testing was a tad more extreme than I might subject my own knife to. His stuff also showed how tough several were as well, so he did help in some areas too. I guess only the knife elite truly have freedom of speech.

[@dpc9644]

With most modern knives being at least sufficient enough for 95% of tasks, including many cheapo brands, after liking a design I really base my purchases on wether or not the maker has a good character and his values. This test would have never exploded the way it did if Busse hadnt run his gig like a pseudo - cult, with censorship and big ststements. Its understandable then that the usual Busse buddies would get so defensive and that folks would also be so quick to jump at their throats. Shame, really, because Busse decided to double down on the INFI cult instead of just reinforcing their strengths, which in my opinion are ergos, great handles and the best cheaper beaters, the Scrap Yards.

[@Laurarium]

I don’t think it has anything to do with BUSSE BF. If you have seen the old BF wars, people threated, blocked threads, and such did not present in the Forum of BUSSE combat knives during this incident.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I remember old blade forums. Any forums actually.

[@ShawnCantwellKnives]

I’d want to make my knives over seas. When on breaks. Then it’s like ehh 🤗🤷 manufacturing 🏭

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Just gotta price for warranty 🤷‍♂️

[@ShawnCantwellKnives]

Yeah there I go. I'll do it that way.@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors

[@jackjohnson291]

I’ve never heard of Joe-X before, but I have heard of a Jess-X… 😉

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

🤣

[@Redherik]

Haha ahh the legend…the end of that saga was kind of hollow tho 😂

[@reapthewhirlwind6915]

Joe x removed all his videos who is "cancelling" him?

[@ketodad]

He says on his channel ( only vid) , that he got blackmailed.

[@reapthewhirlwind6915]

@@ketodad yeah but by who and he also said people are cancelling him i watched it

[@WildBlueYonderDay]

They killed his channel, the haters won.

[@jkn2k]

Metal Complex fanboys

[@Rob_Fordd]

I am very sad that he has now been driven off youtube now by haters trying to blackmail him, probably some company or their fanboys.

[@Ringwolf1]

Great video and BTW I like JOEX he is a straight forward guy and I dislike the complaining woke community.

[@ernesttolic6494]

Joex is best.

[@deedle6073]

Why did JOE X take down the Busse video?

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

It's in his community tab on his channel. He said some things as a joke that maybe were a bit much so he is editing them out.

[@joex]

it is back one, took some bade language out!

[@Primitivebearknives]

Jacob, having problems with someone?!? Nooooo 🤣🤣🤣 I had a blade forums account. I only hated it because there wasn’t an app

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Is there an app now? I don't even know.

[@Primitivebearknives]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors I don’t think so

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@Primitivebearknives gotcha. Well I have started browsing and lightly commenting again but I might see about doing a lot more!

[@SmilingGator96]

I think a lot of the hate comes from an outdated belief system where if something costs more money, it should be a better product. Also, if you drop $500 on a knife (idk how much busse costs), most people are too scared to actually use their knife, but they have a false idea that it'll never break on them because it costs so much. Some of these companies prey on that idea and know that very few people are actually going to beat on their $500 knives enough to break them.

[@JuaneDosesII-wj6dd]

Kinda like leftist thinking?

[@mikeboyce21]

My problem with joe isnt that hes destroying knives, its the way he goes about it makes different knives look like crap. When he doesnt take into account any variables. Take for example.. some knives he will slice up a car where its thin metal and easy to cut through, others he will go for much harder spots. Or try to cut glass..and glass will win its harder than steel. Or he'll take one knife with geometry built to take serious abuse and then others that are thin and not meant to really be super abused. It just ends up making knives look bad when theyre fine knives for what they are.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Thats fair enough- but I think that's where community can come in. I know some brands and people send him knives that are purposefully thickened and convexed at the edge. I'll be sending him if I can a knife with a thin edge same as any other, and I intend to never have a production knife with an edge over .035 regardless of the size of the knife. Maybe none over .030

[@jouzel8951]

JoeX did his own thing. We could all see how the knives held up to his crazy a$$ testing. I will miss his passion, humor and how hard he pushed all the blades. Almost none of his tests were about how normal people use knives, and that is great. There are lots of channels with people making feather sticks ect. We got to see everything be broken and that was valuable in its own way. Long live JoeX and may the companies that brought him down live in shame and infamy!

[@I_Might_B_Wrong]

Do people not realize that you can like slicers and other knives that would break when abused and ALSO like watching some goof beat knives to death for fun? I'd be willing to bet that Joe X himself appreciates a nice slicer that wouldn't survive his abuse but is a joy to use for cutting, but it's just not what he gears his channel towards.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

👆🏻

[@Laurarium]

ESEE junlas BTE is 0.055’’ AFBM is about 0.030’’ Basic 10 0.035’’ Really that thick?

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Junglas bte might be .055 with coating which would make sense that my Busse Hells Razor 2 mics at .050 and I assumed without coating that it would mic .040, since that's where the junglas mics.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

If I was talking about edge thickness in this video with busse it certainly wasn't in light of the afbm- I would have been talking about old school busse anyways. And he likely made some models thicker and some thinner 🤷‍♂️

[@Molokairider]

It will be good to have you on BladeForums as a regular. It is not only a great source of information, but a great community as well.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Yeah can't wait!

[@insanogeddon]

Funny the love is love people are blocking freedom. Collectivist thinking is the opposite of freedom forcing the joining of group all their inclusivity is exclusivity: group member first individuals second, group status first talent second. Irony is they generalize and marginalize a group while saying they stand against generalizations and for marginalized groups. They prioritize a certain type usually chosen by race, gender, and political discrimination and they don't value what they deem to be "other" to itself. All their words about love ALL, freedom, change is about self-branding NOT truth - just the virtue signal, selfish, humble brag pretense buzzword club. Group member first Individual (the smallest minority) second, others need to be worth less for them to be worth more, while they tout war rhetoric about crumbling walls melting pieces and talk of a new world order which shows who is really marginalised. The cancel mob needs to monopolize the words they are NOT as they destroy.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

🎯

[@philwilliams3657]

Well said brother 🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@thetschoni3813]

My problem with joe X are his conclusions. He likes a worktuff gear Arius better than an Coldsteel SRK. By communicating this to mostly uneducated viewers he changes their opinions on what makes a knive a good knife. They start to buy knifes with way to thick behind the Edge thicknesses because Joe X says it holds up the best and he likes it. In the end they have sharpened prybars and also another problem is that the market, because of the demand for way to thick knifes, makes more and more of them. Your desings stand out because they dont do this (exept the workhorse what is a different cup of tee). So in my opinion the Videos themself might be good but he fails to educate the viewers.

[@mariaconcepcionrodriguezhe2850]

Ppl r stupid and always be. If ur not then joex is a treasure of info. Do u need him to explain to u like a little baby? Plus we are already in sharp prybar zone (TOPS andthey suck!) So may aswell know what prybars are stronger😢😢😢

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Although I agree with your assessment I think this is where the community can potentially come in and add context. That is what I want to do anyways. The last thing I want to see is the market getting flooded again with dummy thicc edges! Lol

[@nandayane]

This happened in the mid to late 2000’s it took a decade for the market to recover from it and start producing thin knives that cut well again as mainstays.

[@6nosis]

This video aged like fine whine.

[@LastBastian]

I know who Joe X is. I know bladeforums. ...I haven't frequented either in years. What happened? You don't really explain.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

At this point in this video nothing had happened yet. Later he got nuked with red flag laws which is what he is dealing with currently

[@LastBastian]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Oh wow. Why'd that happen? Was he threatening people or something?

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

No, he's in Austria and that's how red flag laws work 🤷‍♂️

[@LastBastian]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Crazy.

[@jimmy_Ross]

TRUST ME I BOUGHT THE CJRB PYRITE BECUASE OF KNIFE KZbinRS AND GUESS WHAT I WAS WRONG I SHOULDNT OF LISTEN TO ONE PERSON OR 2 PEOPLE ABOUT THIS KNIFE LOL I SHOULD OF JUST BOUGHT IT MYSELF AND DO MY OWN TESTING AND I WOULD OF NEVER BOUGHT THAT KNIFE IF I WASNT FOR A KNIFE KZbinR WO WAS ONLY SELLING THE PRODUCT NO MATTER HOW BAD THE KNIFE REALLY IS

[@kiljoykutlerykutlery6076]

Hey brother Great points and I watched lots of JoeX. As a maker, I felt like it was a learning experience watching Joe hilariously destroy many designs I have used and admired. What works, what doesn't. Ergonomics, stress risers, proper heat treatment...all of it. God bless @kiljoykutlery

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@stefanbirkedal7122]

Just buy a cheap Mora knife 👍

[@jimmy_Ross]

why do people hate joe x lol i didnt know about the guy but i wish i did because i love that type of content lol i cant stand these fan boyys and how if you say one wrong thing you get bannded or what ever lol BRO I PUT AND EMOJI ON A LIVE STREAM AND THE MODERATOR DOESNT LIKE ME SO HE SAID DONT TEXT IN THE LIVE CHAT WRIGHT LOL WITCH HE CANT TELL ME WHEN AND WHERE I CAN WRIGHT LOL SO I LEFT AND EMOJI AND HE BANNDED ME SO YESH WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE JOE X BUT GOOD LUCK STAYING ON KZbin BECAUSE THERE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE SENSITIVE AND IF YOU SAY ANYTHING YOULL GET BANNDED OR EVEN WORSE SO YEAH THERES NO FREE SPEECH

[@jimmy_Ross]

ITS SO SAD BECAUSE KZbin IS A HORRIBLE PLACE TO GET FACTS THESE DAYS SINCE THERE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO WILL JUST AGREE WITH A KNIFE COMPANY JUST TO MAKE MONEY SO THANKS TO THOSE TYPE OF PEOPLE THE KNIFE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO CRAP WE NEED KZbinRS TO MAKE VIDEOS FOR THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY LIKE WHAT THERE DOING LOL I SEE SO MANY KNIFE CHANNELS THAT ARE GARBAGE BECAUSE ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS MONEY AND NOT THE PRODUCT OR THERE VIEWERS

[@zdenekbart]

🛑Joe X abuse knives, not tested, but good for some info. LARRIN THOMAS test the steels, materials!

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Larrin Thomas is the golden standard for data there can be no question

[@nandayane]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Gary Creely picked the toughest steel from Larrin’s chart, took a thick stock, and ground it with a beefy convex, then sent it to JoeX. It’s safe to say the folklore beast performed exactly the way the chart said it would.

[@putinontheblitz359]

Some ver y difficult concepts to get across and you did a great job !!

[@onlymybest9162]

cub scout****

[@WednesdaysWastWendigo]

(Joke) I didnt even know that guy and I hated him

[@onlymybest9162]

I saw that cup scout, "loser survival" copying your previous content that you covered in depth years ago. Ironic, huh? someone who brags about...... I have X amount of subscribers and a "college degree" copying and saying the same things you were saying years ago.... Unbelievable! who would have thought?!? we call that a pathetic loser, where I'm from.....to put it politely Keep up the good work! much love

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I'm not surprised. He is looking at manipulate and target the target demographic that I am trying to help. The wolf wears the sheep's clothing for a reason.

[@onlymybest9162]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors In my mind, without a doubt. Enjoyed the video, happy holidays to you and yours.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

You too!!!

[@tacticalcenter8658]

The people on bf are really ignorant and hateful when they don't understand something. Plus its run by advertisers. So good luck with sharing facts and them leaving or deletion of thds because of it.

[@tacticalcenter8658]

They also have a secret sub forum where people in it, talk trash about anyone they don't like.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I actually mostly agree- in fact I left bladeforums almost a decade ago due to simple toxicity thanks to a few key people. However bladeforums currently still has thousands of articles that are easy to find with good information that people might not want getting out. I don't think moderation is as much a problem as you are making it out to be. What I will say is there is absolutely no place on the internet with as much searchable information as bladeforums and really ignorant and hateful people who don't understand anything are everywhere and can be found in Joe X's comment sections or my own- The anger of the ignorant is not a standard that can be controlled in a place where information can be freely posted.

[@tacticalcenter8658]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors let's take for instance, lionsteel knives. They had a huge thread about how bad their protocols were and how bad they performed due to it. Then they tested the hardness somewhere else and it was good to go yet no one realized the protocol they are using and still using and have not changed, still does poorly. But anyone reading that thread thinks its good. Lol. Its not. JoeX proved their steel is low toughness and cardboard and catra testing shows its low edge retention.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@tacticalcenter8658 and that type of info should be available on bladeforums- so if bladeforums is deleting stuff reformation is needed. I'm willing to help with that. Without bladeforums that kind of info will disappear- guaranteed.

[@tacticalcenter8658]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors iirc they just locked the thread closed so no one could say anything. I don't remember. But the fact of the matter is, hardness does not always show performance. Because you can use different protocols that perform very different but have the same hardness.

[@jimmy_Ross]

yep thats all youtuers care about is money and money not that fact there sapost to make videos for people like me who watch and want the best information on the product i want to buy so yeah i dont like youtubers i infact hate youtubers unless they for the people and not for these companies lol

[@demo2952]

Busse=Pusse

[@UcoSalta]

I have no issue at all with what joeX does. And I think that people like that are needed to keep manufacturers in check. My only issue is the lack of repeatability in his tests. If I wanted to duplicate his tests, it's impossible and thus it is empirically worthless. He doesn't understand that smacking a Mora against a pipe doesn't produce the same force that a much larger and heavier blade will. So the force is not the same. There are better ways for him to do the testing that would be more accurate.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I agree by degree of course- and I hope to be able to use his content to explain some things like that. I think if educated people in the community can explain certain things from Joe's content in a positive light the entire community could benefit more from it.

[@UcoSalta]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Agreed. I watched many of his videos. Regardless of how unrepeatable his tests are, there is always something to be gleaned off the test.

[@Auut917]

Joe x chanel was deleted today , unbeliavable !!!!!

[@brr8888]

I just saw that myself I wonder what happened 😢

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

No way...

[@putinontheblitz359]

I always looked at Joe X channel like a cross between a comedy and the life adventures of someone who refuses to grow up. I've never taken him seriously but he has provided many hours of great entertainment. Sadly that is gone. Think he is being a bit of a puss to be honest.