Which is Faster? M2 Competition vs M140i Drag Race (6 speed manual) | 4k

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Joe Achilles

Joe Achilles

Күн бұрын

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@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoyed this one guys! M240i xDrive video dropping early next week 🎬
@jackpayne6478
@jackpayne6478 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for this one! 🙌
@markrhoden68
@markrhoden68 2 жыл бұрын
Shared on m140i group. Interesting comparison
@Hmanchester0807
@Hmanchester0807 2 жыл бұрын
Ordered mine in Brooklyn Grey last week, hoping your review doesn’t ruin my day! 🙈😂 @joeachilles
@andrewwatson5036
@andrewwatson5036 2 жыл бұрын
Great review Joe. Will you repeat this with your M2C versus a new G42 M240i when they’re in the UK. I hoping to take delivery end of Jan so happy to lend you one
@Hmanchester0807
@Hmanchester0807 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewwatson5036 Great shout, would love to see this! 👍
@albamotion
@albamotion 2 жыл бұрын
I found this fascinating. As a former M140i, and current M2 Comp owner, this pretty much confirmed what I’d always felt about the two cars. In the real world, the M2 doesn’t really feel any faster than the M140i. The torque advantage from the B58 in 3rd gear is telling. The M2 does feel and look more special, and is ultimately a quicker car objectively. But as you rightly say at the end of the video, even a lightly tuned M140i is going to hold it’s own and potentially even embarrass the M2 Comp in the real world. The M140i is a gem at the price point you can get them for these days. Awesome comparison, thanks for making it happen and sharing it here.
@Robbbbb1011
@Robbbbb1011 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, a huge thing for me though (as with any 1 series) is I personally think they're pig ugly! Just wouldn't feel happy seeing it on my driveway in the morning lol
@albamotion
@albamotion 2 жыл бұрын
@@Robbbbb1011 I think the 1 series improved over time, especially after the facelift. But, I get where you’re coming from, the look is not for everyone.
@danielrobinson7310
@danielrobinson7310 2 жыл бұрын
I've had the 140, M2and now an M4C, the later two are head a shoulders over the 140, yes its fast in a straight line but the 140 is not even in the same class as the M2 and actually the M2 isnt in the same class as the M4, unless you get the CS!
@jonathanwinston9958
@jonathanwinston9958 2 жыл бұрын
100% except a slightly (stage 2) tuned M2C roasts the 1
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielrobinson7310 M2 C isn't in the same class as an M4, where did you dream that up?
@JIMMYHIBBS1
@JIMMYHIBBS1 2 жыл бұрын
Whichever way you cut it -M140 is more than enough for most people
@Danny-nw3yl
@Danny-nw3yl 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought an M140i and picking it up shortly can't wait, watching these videos gets me even more exited
@VldsBimmerBites
@VldsBimmerBites 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one Joe. Do as well a M340i vs M340d comparison. Thanks
@johngee4902
@johngee4902 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual Joe! I am biased due to owning a 140i ZF (largely due to your 140i/M2 comparison years ago!) but unless you are into track days I would think that for everyday use and for the routine 30 to 70 drag off the roundabouts (not that I do this of course!) the M140i is difficult to beat.
@lbarbato6425
@lbarbato6425 2 жыл бұрын
Just love the BMWs, my M2 comp still puts a smile on my face even after 3 years of owning it.
@nightingale4369
@nightingale4369 2 жыл бұрын
I have 8 speed auto m140i stage 1 which cost me 600 quid 430bhp and I beat my mates m2 comp by some 4 car lengths
@ericgrimm821
@ericgrimm821 2 жыл бұрын
@@nightingale4369 wait till he tunes the m2 comp to 1000hp 😂
@Cansislol
@Cansislol 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericgrimm821 You can do that easily to the B58 too
@ericgrimm821
@ericgrimm821 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cansislol power is not everything anyways
@ShogunsDojo
@ShogunsDojo 2 жыл бұрын
As an LCI (but pre PPF 👌🏾) M240i manual owner I really enjoyed this video. Always glad to see OMP, been watching consistently since you ordered that car and it’s been fun to follow its adventures.
@chakatrain
@chakatrain 2 жыл бұрын
I’m beating a dead horse, but it’s a shame that the American market doesn’t like hatchbacks. I would have bought this in a heartbeat.
@ApothecaryTerry
@ApothecaryTerry 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like you probably shouldn't be beating off a horse whether it's alive or dead... ☺
@997speedy
@997speedy 2 жыл бұрын
I have now got my LCI2 shadow edition 3 door manual M140i. Really does feel like a proper unicorn, the dream spec. Absolutely love it i will keep it forever.
@danielb916
@danielb916 Ай бұрын
have the same. its such a good car. you can even drive it in an economic way.
@johncoughlan5613
@johncoughlan5613 2 жыл бұрын
Still take the mighty m2 competition every day and twice on a Sunday. Brilliant video again thanks.
@roblanger5546
@roblanger5546 2 жыл бұрын
I love my M140i its a monster
@sonneyanthony6926
@sonneyanthony6926 2 жыл бұрын
Joe why didn’t you do a rolling start in second gear at 30mph? Which is what realistically would happen in the real world considering the M2 goes 40mph in 1st so second would be a more realistic scenario at 30
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 2 жыл бұрын
Because that wouldn't demonstrate the low down torque I was talking about. In 2nd at 30mph the M2 C would disappear.
@Sync0r
@Sync0r 2 жыл бұрын
Stage 1 map that m140i :) Loving the content, I've also just purchased an m140i, it's such a fun easy to drive car. It also gets great fuel economy on the motorway 40mpg!
@ApothecaryTerry
@ApothecaryTerry 2 жыл бұрын
I reckon you could get a lot more than 40mpg on the motorway ☺ Can nearly get that out of an F13 M6 and my 981CS gets over 47! Whatever the case, the M140i is still a great little car (incidentally, I don't like the aforementioned M6 at all- I'd take the M140i over it every time!).
@Sync0r
@Sync0r 2 жыл бұрын
@@ApothecaryTerry I did have a faulty exhaust vanos actuator, have just replaced it, so will see if my MPG improves :) Loving it so far on the back roads.
@ApothecaryTerry
@ApothecaryTerry 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sync0r Be interesting to know, a manual M240i is an option for my next car, the only thing against it is that I'm an attention whore and it's not very rare or flashy looking ☺ That and the interior is cheap, but I can definitely get over that. I reckon it should at least match my 981CS for economy, but to be fair I drive that like a granny on long runs- can't hear the stereo if I do more than 65! Off the motorway I get slightly less mpg...
@DjNikGnashers
@DjNikGnashers 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sync0r I used to get 44+ mpg on a run from mine when it was standard (auto). Not sure I could get that now it's 455bhp/634nm, but even with that power, I still get 40mpg on a run. I have seen it as low as 5mpg though :-))))
@staggabob
@staggabob 2 жыл бұрын
Last month I managed to write off my lovely m135i when water got sucked into the engine so a word of caution for anyone with these cars- if you come across a flooded road just turn around and find another way, even when EVERYONE else is going through with no problems :/ PS 4.7 seconds in a manual is insane!
@riccomorra2689
@riccomorra2689 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but this video is really silly. You stated yourself, the B58 has a lower torque band than the S55. You can't then compare them at the same rev range favouring the B58s range, then state the B58 is better on road. The B58 is a fabulous engine and it's paved the way however your test and report technique is bias towards the B58. You've essential fabricated a comparison that dilutes the S55s strengths and shines a light on the B58s strengths. The only thing that matters in a rolling race is which speed you run from, you pick your rev range... Obviously. 😂😂
@SamAustin
@SamAustin 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Joe and insightful to know about the different engines! Something a dealer will never be able to explain to anyone and the price of the M140i shows it is an absolute bargain! My MK7 Golf R manual is yours should you wish to do the same 👍
@Picklescarchannel
@Picklescarchannel 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Joe, blast from the past. So much better than the modern day m135i.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 😬👊
@nismo4321
@nismo4321 2 жыл бұрын
But Joe your M2C is modified with Motec suspension, Airbox, better tyres and exhaust. I think those things will make a a bit of a difference in performance. M140i looked stock.
@akent46
@akent46 Жыл бұрын
I found my M140i was quicker when I shifted at around 5500 rpm instead of redline, the torque trumped the top end power drop as the turbo runs out of volume.
@HTH88
@HTH88 2 жыл бұрын
Great video mate! Both cars are amazing and that M140 certainly punches above its weight. Question on the M2C, you have the Eventuri intake + Remus exhaust. Eventuri claim an added 18whp / 50nm with this intake. I don’t have the stats on Remus. Have you had your car on the dyno as there is a strong probability your power figures on the M2C are higher than standard? I'm not taking a shot at the M2C because I have one:) Standard the M2C is technically quicker but just curious to hear your thoughts. Again, awesome video mate and thanks!
@jonathang922
@jonathang922 2 жыл бұрын
Another great vid Joe! When do you review the new M240i X-drive? I won't be swapping my M240i for the new one, would cost nearly £50K for a similar spec (mine was £44K) and the back end is hideous. Plus with PPF and emissions regs the exhaust sound is pathetic compared to mine with an M-Performance back box and no PPF.
@jlnmlng8372
@jlnmlng8372 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! 🙂 It is nice to have the option to a more trackfocused option with the M2/M2 Competition with the ability to be a good road car. And with the M240i/M140i a more roadfocused option with the ability to be a good trackcar, with only a few mods. Can‘t really go wrong with either choice, that is so cool! 🙂
@dewillel
@dewillel 2 жыл бұрын
If you ever want to do an m140i xdrive stage 2+ (480hp) VS new M3/M4 xdrive I'm available! power/weight they should be pretty similar, I would actually love to find out the result :D
@chrisshivute
@chrisshivute 2 жыл бұрын
The B58 truly is the European 2JZ... heck of a machine that is...
@raveutcars
@raveutcars 2 жыл бұрын
Quick remap on the m140i and it reels in m2 comps around Bedford. Can confirm! ;)
@jamesrsk
@jamesrsk 2 жыл бұрын
Love your M2 competition, eventually hoping to get one myself. Currently have a lightly modded M235i.
@kjyu
@kjyu 2 жыл бұрын
That is still great, possibly even better for daily!
@jamessmith84240
@jamessmith84240 3 ай бұрын
I love my M140i. I had no money for so many years of my life so for me it's a dream come true.
@michaelweigel2466
@michaelweigel2466 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. I have a 2018 M140i (pre PPF), manual with rear wheel drive as my summer car and I really love it. With the various adjustments the car has, I can outrun older M4s (M2s anyway) on the German Autobahn, which is really fun.
@hungrysurfer9471
@hungrysurfer9471 2 жыл бұрын
Im curious about comparing the M2 with a Birds BMW version of the 140i. Birds fit an lsd like the M2 has and upgrades the suspension and engine to over 400 hp. They can upgrade the brakes aswell if you want to track the car.
@mrjamesmay3548
@mrjamesmay3548 2 жыл бұрын
When’s the m240i review coming.. can’t wait to order it once you give it your blessing.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 2 жыл бұрын
Tuesday 👊
@Draconian8
@Draconian8 2 жыл бұрын
You really need that blessing?
@mrjamesmay3548
@mrjamesmay3548 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoeAchilles1 tick tock Joe! Ha I’m looking forward to this video
@mrjamesmay3548
@mrjamesmay3548 2 жыл бұрын
@@Draconian8 he’s come from the 140’s etc so good to get his view point 👍
@Thom4sk
@Thom4sk 2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that M140i is available with xDrive on continental Europe market which could make slight difference 0-60 time and cornering.
@gregoryuk
@gregoryuk 2 жыл бұрын
The Elder in me says 140i all day just on practicality. Beautiful colour.
@gbart2679
@gbart2679 2 жыл бұрын
An interesting comparison, it does make the 140i look like great value.
@lucasvonheiz1310
@lucasvonheiz1310 2 жыл бұрын
I feel a bit sad that bmw does not go full M for the M140i, like brakes and front end and lsd. Because with b58 it can destroy many jokes on wheels like a45 and rs3.
@phughes4224
@phughes4224 2 жыл бұрын
B58 stunning engine. In my M340i it's SOOOOOO fast :)
@DaveDVideoMaker
@DaveDVideoMaker 2 жыл бұрын
Yuwan said the M140i is a good alternative to a Supra, because it has the same engine and same horsepower, but the M140i has a manual, which the Supra doesn’t.
@colingumbs1386
@colingumbs1386 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the140 back joe . I bought the 240i after watching your videos and love the car , my only gripe is lack of standard equipment lol
@adrianhazzard6665
@adrianhazzard6665 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid, would love if an OG M2 could get thrown into the mix to see how the N55 performs.
@franklineno8616
@franklineno8616 2 жыл бұрын
As ever Joe,your videos are always a great watch with great inspiration,after watching your m2 competition against the m140i, how about doing a stage 2 plus m140i with suspension diff and brakes,against your car,things being more equal the results will be extremely interesting for the masses,at that point I'd like you to evaluate cost of the cost of the m140i then the cost of the conversion against the cost of the competition as a whole,but ultimately keep this videos coming,im loving it....
@bananahammock3664
@bananahammock3664 2 жыл бұрын
The stage 2 M140i would destroy the M2 comp. My stage 2 M140 was faster than a 2014 RS6 from a roll...
@ScottPC
@ScottPC 2 жыл бұрын
Can we get a M2 DCT vs ZF M140i? or perhaps OG M2 vs M140i vs M135i? So many combinations.
@M21KEY
@M21KEY 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see how my M240i ST2+ would compare to this, you could use my car in your video if you’d like 👍🏻
@moonfly1
@moonfly1 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to put an even older dog in the mix on this. My 07 335i wouldn't be far off with its old N54 engine.
@andrewlee5237
@andrewlee5237 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Joe, I’ve had my 140 for 3 years now and have loved every minute of my ownership, and I’m in no rush to change it anytime soon 🤩☝️
@John-fo9jy
@John-fo9jy 2 жыл бұрын
Same story here, the m140i isn't perfect but as an everyday car it's brilliant. I can't find anything to replace it with, without spending double the amount.
@gus8840
@gus8840 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video! If you're ever interested, I live in Buckinghamshire and currently have a stage 2+ M140i ZF 8 Speed with tons of performance, handling and braking mods. Would be intrigued to hear your opinion on it and possibly see how this performs against an M2 Comp. Reply to this comment if this is something you would be interested in doing and we can sort something out 👍
@SH7SH7SH7
@SH7SH7SH7 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, i have a stage 2 M240i with a stage 3 xhp gearbox map if you’re interested in doing any videos or comparisons with it. Thanks
@thedrivebygg
@thedrivebygg 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video Joe, the M140i has to be one of the best second hand cars on the market at £20k, after my 125D off course.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 2 жыл бұрын
Haha cheers man! Yeah the 125d was a real unsung hero too 👌
@earni01
@earni01 2 жыл бұрын
Kommentar für den Algorithmus
@richardmurphy546
@richardmurphy546 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, utterly enjoyed that! The B58 is fantastic and I don’t see me changing my m140i anytime soon.
@brettl3941
@brettl3941 3 ай бұрын
Considering a tidy M140i is available at £15k now they are incredible VFM. Sadly when I drove one it just didn’t feel special, plenty fast enough but elsewhere pretty bland and I couldn’t go through with the purchase. My M2 put that right though, drove it and bought it. Between driving the M140i and the M2 I had a W204 C63 with a map and Quife diff and the M2 is an upgrade in almost all in facets of driving experience, bar the sound and outright pace.
@sanmarino_cs1698
@sanmarino_cs1698 2 жыл бұрын
We’ve got an 18 plate (last of the pre PPF) M140i and love it! Great daily and keeps the e92 M3 tucked up nice and cosy 😁
@kb34958
@kb34958 2 жыл бұрын
Can't see the problem with the PPF cars. They're just as powerful as before and whilst the exhaust was more subdued when new my 68 plate car is beginning to sound really fruity with 10k miles plus under its wheels.
@ScottPC
@ScottPC 2 жыл бұрын
@@kb34958 Only reason I went for a Pre-PPF is louder no restrictions when modifying the exhaust.
@ricfair
@ricfair 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video Joe. As a recent M140i owner I found this video very interesting. My budget would never stretch to an M2 but its good to know the M140i can hold its own against the M2. Performance bargain I think, even with prices going bananas just now. Glad I managed to get mine in March when prices where more realistic, in fact the dealer I bought mine from had dropped the price by £1000!! Keep up the good work Joe, your videos when you owned an M140i where very informative and helped me in my decision to buy one. Still not sure if I should have went for a manual, but the auto is pretty good.
@jc07788
@jc07788 2 жыл бұрын
Although the auto is easier 80% of the time. That 20% of the time when you go for a Sunday blast, the manual M140i is just so much more rewarding
@DC-88
@DC-88 2 жыл бұрын
Waiting so long for this comparison 💪🏻, please bring a new m440i or m340i against your M2 😁
@l4stwish
@l4stwish 2 жыл бұрын
Measuring the 0-100 with ASR on-.- Guys, as long as some wheelspin display lights blinking up when you have spinning tires, a control unit is taking power away from the engine to prevent the wheelspin. so turn it off, and do the 0-100 again....
@johngoodall7097
@johngoodall7097 2 жыл бұрын
You do have fun Joe but I,ll never own one of either kind being a poor pensioner, everybody say aaaahhh😃😃😃👍👍👍👍🚘🚘🚘🚘
@RaifRaif85
@RaifRaif85 2 жыл бұрын
So good to see manuals
@francescosaia4475
@francescosaia4475 Жыл бұрын
My choice 140i 3 door manual gearbox and lsd with suspensions mod for the best choice!
@miguelangelalonso4049
@miguelangelalonso4049 2 жыл бұрын
That M140i is the last of the 6 cilinder and rear wheel drive golden era!!
@MbeezySheesh
@MbeezySheesh 2 жыл бұрын
at least the last 1 series with 6c rwd
@WaseemKhan-iu4bh
@WaseemKhan-iu4bh 2 жыл бұрын
The last 6 cylinder 1 series*
@djl9925
@djl9925 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent test this Joe. I’ve gone from an m240i to a Giulia QF and let me tell you that the B58 is one hell of an engine to have in a car that size. If anyone out there is contemplating one, do it. Definitely an m car for the road.
@willpark7483
@willpark7483 9 күн бұрын
But surely a quadrifoglio feels another level faster? Similar weight but 510hp
@djl9925
@djl9925 9 күн бұрын
@@willpark7483 Yes the QF certainly is faster and feels it especially once you’re into 3 figures, but the BM also feels rapid and gives a great account of itself.
@JOFEALVI
@JOFEALVI 2 жыл бұрын
How owner of BMW M140i looks very closed
@bravz_
@bravz_ 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid- very interesting comparison. Would have loved to have taken part in my stg1 435d for a proper 'wild card' entry. Fairly confident it would have held it's own against the two petrol cars.
@michaelelliott5364
@michaelelliott5364 2 жыл бұрын
435d leave them standing until about 85-90. I'm stage 2 on my 335d neither can keep with me 🤣
@neilmorris6719
@neilmorris6719 2 жыл бұрын
Ive got wagner 2 intercooler map and filter and run 11.9 at santa pod
@nightingale4369
@nightingale4369 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelelliott5364 I have a stage 1 m140i 430bhp it would wipe the floor of ur 335d smoke train mate
@MotechPerformance
@MotechPerformance 2 жыл бұрын
That M2 sounds , really shows your how good the M140 is for its value
@oleole619
@oleole619 2 жыл бұрын
Buy a 140 tune it with lsd for about 2k and have an extra 5k in your pocket
@InfoAction_
@InfoAction_ 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you dumping the clutch so soon to let the engine bog? Isn’t the whole point of clutch control for a launch to feather the power through to the wheels until they are up to speed with the engine?
@darrenwalters6339
@darrenwalters6339 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always. As a m135i lci Manual owner it’s nice to see the m lites with the inline 6 and rear wheel drive still fly there flags high, especially when you compare them to the new gen equivalents. Keep up the top work 👍🏻
@TheTranfan
@TheTranfan 2 жыл бұрын
I bought an M140i couple months ago and it's brilliant. It has a stage 1 tune on it and god it moves. Next week my coilover kit arrives and next few months om going to get a B58tu pump and catless downpipe for even more power. Next thing is an LSD and i think i'll have the perfect Hatchback
@Islam_is_the_truth.4
@Islam_is_the_truth.4 2 жыл бұрын
The m140i needs a lsd and a remap which takes it to around 400bhp it becomes an animal
@vyvynylification
@vyvynylification 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2016 440i GC. Basically a less powerful and heavier version of the m140i and I understand on a track there is no way I hang with an M2 or M4 but every single real world drag race i've done versus an M4, I perfectly kept up with the M4. And the 2 opportunities I had from low speeds, it didn't even pull an inch until we hit about 120kmh due to it's wheelspin. For daily real world driving, that b58 feels just as quick, no joke. And then there's tuning on these... So, so effective! Even with just a stage 1 I know i'd have actual M4 straight line performance. However, my dream would be an m340i or m440i with MPE. :')
@jasondupreez1444
@jasondupreez1444 2 жыл бұрын
So insightful and so humbled guy!! Very good layout real world and timing videos!
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you bro, glad you enjoyed it 👊
@monument4852
@monument4852 2 жыл бұрын
Not that fast when my astra 2.0 turbo Did 5.1 0-60 And 1/4 in13.4 SO FOR ALL THE MONEY ABD LOOK AT MY CAR !!!!! NOT THAT GOOD ?
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 2 жыл бұрын
So happy for you and your 2.0 turbo Astra 👏
@brencelt
@brencelt 2 жыл бұрын
The m140i is a an much more fun car to hoon about in. Both are overated as drivers cars tbh
@Bonnie_Shot
@Bonnie_Shot 2 жыл бұрын
wanted an m2 for so long, but with the increase in the 2nd hand market they're just out my budget...seems the m140i can provide as much of a thril for a lot less £££
@VikingViews
@VikingViews 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Joe. I had a 2017 M4 Competition (DCT) but I'm now running a manual 2017 M140i as a daily driver and in real world driving, B roads etc the manual M140i is so much more of a connected drive and it honestly make's me smile more (I know that sounds crazy). If i ever bought another M4 comp, it would hundred percent be manual over another auto. This M140i though, epic little car! That B58 is such a great engine and it will be be tuned in coming months 🤙🏼
@neilturner6749
@neilturner6749 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t get why half the comments here are “I’ve got a modded/remapped/stage1/stage2 M140/M240 etc and it’ll be quicker etc etc you must do a comparison, I slaughter M2s etc etc”. So what? Why compare a modded version of one car to the stock version of another to achieve some kind of child-like pointless victory? Duh you could apply the same degree of mods to the M2 and the margin will be just as much...
@declan9145
@declan9145 2 жыл бұрын
Afternoon everyone - I currently have the new facelift/LCI X3 in Brooklyn Grey, but I’m looking at a 17/18 plate M140i for some fun as a second car (they also looks superb IMO), are there many differences in terms of maintenance compared to a proper M car? 😂 Cheers for your help! Declan 👍🏻
@anth4040
@anth4040 2 жыл бұрын
Mate really??,click bate,be honest because we all know the outcome.finding you a tad boring now buddy.X feel bad about my comments but being truthful.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 2 жыл бұрын
It's not click bait, it is what it says in the title. Idiot.
@antonoat
@antonoat 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry Joe I think you've fallen foul of the dreaded dealer encouraged upgrade spiral, BMW just seems to keep bringing out new car names to increase sales, next it will be " BMW M2 EVO Limited edition, Competition Special carbon, Ultra lightweight, Sucker punch, Wallet drainer MK1 " Just stop it BMW, please. Lol. Still a thumbs up for you though!
@deancostello14
@deancostello14 2 жыл бұрын
I paid £17 grand for my 30k mile 2016 M140i in April, the prices are absolutely crazy these days. Mind, the only car I could see me replacing it with is an M2 Comp. Nothing at a similar price point compares to an M140i.
@jonathanbeale3978
@jonathanbeale3978 2 жыл бұрын
Why oh why did I selling my m240i auto with adaptive, loved that car. I did replace it with a 440i with MPSSK. Both purchased on your recommendation Joe, thank you.
@rasmusmadsen6070
@rasmusmadsen6070 2 жыл бұрын
I did a dyno on my m140i xdrive. And it showed 362/541 so it’s actually pretty close in terms off newtons 541 VS 550 in the M2C I know have a stage 1 430/612
@earleyriser1967
@earleyriser1967 2 жыл бұрын
Is there some reason you are unable to test 0-100 km/h times so you have a direct comparison with the manufacturers claims? All this measuring to 60 mph and adding a tenth is just a waste of time and brain space.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 2 жыл бұрын
Don't want to waste your useful brain space 🤣
@ericvermeulen9853
@ericvermeulen9853 2 жыл бұрын
Just for interest sake the b58 runs a slight higher compression ratio of 11.1 compared to the s55 10.2 so low down it should outrun slightly exactly what you demonstrated but the downfall off the 58 is it will require higher octane fuel for it to keep up to the s55 , BMW actually reduced compression ratio for the s58 to 9.6 that makes it a more linear power delivery engine and cooler combustion temps
@latlak
@latlak 2 жыл бұрын
The M2 Comp. is rather celebrating oldschool high revving engine's era whereas the M140i is all about daily performance.
@burrogrande
@burrogrande 2 жыл бұрын
I got a M140i xDrive, on paper it’ll do 4.4 to 62mph. Always wondered how it would compare to M2 & M2 comp🤔
@michaela9279
@michaela9279 2 жыл бұрын
it would be nice to see a video on the new 2022 m240i vs your m2?
@andrewmoorhouse687
@andrewmoorhouse687 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a few ‘M-lites’ now and think they’re fabulous road cars. Probably a better road car than a full-fat M most of the time. Having driven a couple of Ms, the M2 and M3, they are much more focused, so it basically boils down to what you want and also your own level of driving skill. Real performance drivers and track goers would probably be best served in a M car. The rest of us would probably be better served in an M-lite. It has a broader range of ability in the real world, doing the comfortable day-day cruiser much better and with much better fuel consumption to boot, yet also turning into a nutter machine when you want it to. As Joe does, I would highly recommend adaptive dampers, they make a noticeable difference to comfort and control levels.
@TheJmebe
@TheJmebe 2 жыл бұрын
Love both of these cars. The 4th gear roll on from 30mph is a great test
@rediah5494
@rediah5494 2 жыл бұрын
340 HP vs 430 HP 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you can build a M140i with 10k and have a better car
@paullockwood7219
@paullockwood7219 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Joe. Just curious to see how a ZF auto M140i would cope in the same test against the manual M2. I bet that would be closer.
@giftorreid8876
@giftorreid8876 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you mate 100%
@WaseemKhan-iu4bh
@WaseemKhan-iu4bh 2 жыл бұрын
Then you must compare a dct m2c as that is much faster than the zf found in the m140
@giftorreid8876
@giftorreid8876 2 жыл бұрын
@@WaseemKhan-iu4bh I see your point but it wouldn't prove any more than what we know now m2c will still win. Manual m2c against zf m140i I feel would be closer as well.
@WaseemKhan-iu4bh
@WaseemKhan-iu4bh 2 жыл бұрын
@@giftorreid8876 i dont think zf will make that much of a difference as it's still quite a bit slower than a dual clutch plus it is heavier than a manual... maybe half a car length closer from the hit and even less so on the roll
@giftorreid8876
@giftorreid8876 2 жыл бұрын
@@WaseemKhan-iu4bh Cheers thanks for that info I have m140i zf stock from new never driven m2c☝🏿
@zubizarreta10
@zubizarreta10 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, I have a 2021 m2c manual and I noticed yours has the display for your sport mode steering and engine on on the gauge screen. Can all m2c manual display that? I thought that was only for auto. Thanks
@MrSoulja171
@MrSoulja171 2 жыл бұрын
iv had a manual m140i the gearbox is shyte but the engine is a powerhouse. my m235i is stage 2 but lower down the 140i felt more torquey
@a.s.2687
@a.s.2687 2 жыл бұрын
My M140i pre PPF is just a perfect compact daily car. Good performance, good sound, not so shouted looking, easy and cheap to maintain. I think one of the best value for the money on the market.
@paulmarkvalente
@paulmarkvalente 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Joe, thanks! Having had my manual 2015 M135i since new, I’m about to say goodbye… if anyone’s interested let me know! Wiggle/Carwow etc seem to be interested but I’d like to see it go to a good home 👍🏻
@ivorproblem1332
@ivorproblem1332 2 жыл бұрын
M2 has 2 bigger turbos, that shifts the power higher up + it has it's reduced power over the M3/M4. Both cars mapped are quick.
@bradcollins4114
@bradcollins4114 2 жыл бұрын
Rematch with S55 vs B58 and S55 I reckon :) I know you'll be in an 8AT but 3rd in the 8AT is close to 2nd in the 6MT and 4th is likewise similar to 3rd.
@ReeceT20
@ReeceT20 2 жыл бұрын
Did I spot an Eventuri intake and aftermarket exhaust on the M2? wouldn't that give you an extra bit of power over stock?
@elliotletlalo9235
@elliotletlalo9235 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are super mate 👌 👍 I'm not a subscriber yet but you can change all that buy investing i drag races than you driving both cars alone mate
@jono8606
@jono8606 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Miss my M140i, would have still had her if some numpty hadn’t wiped me out on dual carriageway ( van pulling from lane 1 to lane 2 failing to see me!). Still 3.5 yrs and 85,000 miles and smile with every journey…
@samuelsunderland8868
@samuelsunderland8868 2 жыл бұрын
13.01 for the quarter mile in the m140 is bloody good for a manual too! Kinda upsetting really 😂 I’ve got an m140i auto pre PPF and at Santa pod the best time I got on the day was also 13.0…
@lucasvonheiz1310
@lucasvonheiz1310 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry joe, but can't you bring like a 3rd person that can do the 3 2 1 thing? Cause starting like this with the talkie in the hand...
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