Joe Budden Reacts to Kendrick Lamar's "meet the grahams" | "They're Believable Lies on This Track"

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[@samuraiprime5044]

Am I the only one who actually likes "Meet the Grahams" for what it is? A horror-movie like track that paints a picture of him talking to Drake's family including him? The beat is mesmerizing.

[@WillieDane]

I appreciate it for that EXACT reason. It literally crashed the party & made everyone sit down & listen. It was unsettling 😂

[@TameriKingdom79]

He’s the Boogie Man lol

[@christopherwilson6045]

The Alchemist Blessed Kendrick But It Was An Old Beat Kendrick Had In The Stash Until He Felt It Was Time To Use It...

[@mckenleymason1212]

That's why we all love this song

[@HoneyBee-br6hi]

I love it.

[@user-rv9hp6bo3y]

The daughter stuff on MTG was the least disrespectful stuff. I couldn't care less if Drake has 10 daughters. He spent three verse dissecting three generations of Drake's bloodline over an alchemist beat. It's masterpiece to me.

[@austindowney5581]

Exactly

[@aquabuhda432]

Yo ish if your girl lied too u about a baby being yours and u find it its your homies and u punch her in the eye 1 or 2 times are u as the man wrong he didn't kill the girl he moved

[@davidgaskins2589]

​@@aquabuhda432shut up

[@Deo721]

Exactly you haters don't care about the actual song or lyrics. Y'all just hate Drake so much anything KDot did was Good to y'all 😆😆😆 Kendrick's diss songs was weak as hell and stupid for him to use that false information from Drake's mole. He super dumb 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@fredztuhh]

@Deo721 Drake : here's some fake bullets to shoot at me Kendrick : Shoots Drake : *starts bleeding* all my part of my masterplan lmaoo stupid bot

[@inezodom5904]

Meet the graham’s literally made the world mouths drop to the floor he literally shifted the energy that’s scary genius

[@hoodieddespair]

I remember being at work (Saturday, early morning) when I first heard it. I was in a GREAT mood. MTG killed my mood immediately. Lol.

[@thegoatudontknow]

GENUS HE TOOK FAKE INFO LMAOOO AND FAKE THUMB NAILS LOL THIS HOW HE LOST LOL

[@djane1006]

And this whole thing will be the thing that fck Kendrick up when the universe double back! Kendrick thinks because he has women signing NDAS before he gets involves with them it’s saving him but it will come out.. he definitely has a temper to women

[@Black-my4un]

@@thegoatudontknow L

[@theonewhoknocks3107]

@@djane1006where’s the proof? He has ZERO history of DV. You dudes are ridiculous lol.

[@BornGiftedMusicGroup]

This beef showed me how many fans of rap are not hiphop heads b/c the lack of appreciation for great writing and art was sad to see. The amount of ppl claiming a beef song wasn’t good if if wasn’t gonna be played in a club or u had to think to understand it 🤣🤣🤣🤦🏾‍♂️

[@stanleycarr2766]

Well....said they looking for melodies

[@Leannbby]

You’re forgetting this is Joe, and Meet the Grahams was inspired by Stan, Joe hates Eminem more than anything lol he started out praising that man for his horror core music and then shit on him for it when he didn’t blow up under Shady

[@Eli-ss9gj]

Facts. Niggas complaining bc this shit isn’t something you would hear in the clubs when diss tracks NEVER was like that until Back to Back.

[@owenleal]

Thats really just a cope. As if people even play the majority of rap beef tracks in the club.

[@ToddButcher-vt9jm]

Good point rap fans are not hip-hop heads

[@Mamus656]

I think the reason Kendrick was easily believed is because of his character, Drakes character was already in question.

[@chumbanga]

Bingo 🤝

[@joebrown6778]

Also...people just wanted Drake to lose. Let's be real.

[@jadencandelario7880]

@@joebrown6778sounds like an excuse, why make excuses for Drake ? When push ups and Taylor made dropped, he was acting like Kendrick was scared, “it seems he’s not as enthused”.

[@ahziahester8621]

@@jadencandelario7880nah he’s right tho. If you go to a boxing match hoping one particular guy gets KOd you favor the other guy. & that’s so okay! But people at least should be honest enough to admit it. Jerseys are on

[@joebrown6778]

@@jadencandelario7880 Excuse for what? I do understand I'm on the internet so the people love to paint things in absolutes and extremes, but if we can't even be honest about the public mood before the battle even started..🤷‍♂️

[@dashuntas.m4045]

People keep disregarding this track like it wasn’t the hardest hitting track on a psychological level. Out of all of them, this is the one that’s going to stay on Drake’s mind for years; he might have to deal with Not Like Us online and in clubs but Meet The Grahams is what he’s going to be thinking of when he’s in bed about to sleep lol

[@soufside_5123]

💯😭

[@gregcoleman9085]

Accurate as fuck

[@mackonealcharles9380]

I totally agree with you. This is the Knock Out punch track. It's so dark, scary and deep. Feels like the Boogeyman coming to get him 😂

[@bongonice]

😂😂😂😂 Real talk

[@BosseLadi12]

Exactly

[@AlexBrown-ke8iq]

Respect to Joe for acknowledging that alchemist is one of them ones frfr

[@reneemechelle442]

That creamy marshmallow guy blending in with the white couches is going hard for Drake. He sounds crazy

[@Kickinthescience]

Kendrick showed he could be funny and dark in this beef

[@deshundillard1337]

this the worst song in the battle im sorry as a kdot fan

[@seeymuurx999]

@@deshundillard1337you a lie

[@deshundillard1337]

@@seeymuurx999 ... Serious as a heart attack

[@Alliwantismoney15]

@@deshundillard1337im a Drake fan u buggin

[@deshundillard1337]

@@Alliwantismoney15 .. how? ppl gassing.. the angles he took on here was bad.. no bars

[@oilyque]

Man talking to someone's family one by one like they are tied up in the house in separate rooms. Psychological warfare.

[@Ava-ze6kz]

That’s what it felt like to me😂

[@Original_jataro]

🎯

[@SuiteVII]

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@biancalacey8844]

Facts

[@liquidjackson7172]

Bingo!!!!!

[@edwarlock8244]

Kendrick taught Drake the true definition of SCARY HOURS with this one 😂

[@mellowlake079]

So using A.I voice of 2 of our most iconic in hiphop was considered genius...these ninjas weird

[@remix-yy1hs]

Right. Sacrilegious

[@tru_hart]

Ish is so eager to defend Drake that he doesnt even realize how incoherent his arguments are 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@bassdropsbreakdowns]

Ish been a Drizzy meat rider. He knows KDot won, that’s why he’s so tight about it.. (no diddy)

[@hoodieddespair]

And I was TRYNA hear him out, but he wasn't making sense to me.

[@sidepriest]

Sums up the drake Stan general consensus LOL…

[@uriellevelupriley684]

He's sick 🤕 😂

[@bonnaboo07]

LMAO bro sat there looking salty the whole time. Talking about women defending DV fcked him up. Like huh? I stopped listening to him after that.

[@hithere99100]

Ish acting like most of Drake disses weren't aimed at Whitney is hilarious...Drake said Kendrick was small with little feet and finally got around to saying he is a wife beater. Kendrick put out a EP on how to kill a man in multiple styles of rap.

[@FullMetalKaliber]

Yeah it was weird. Man said “your girl might be homie hoping and having kids after you beat her why ain’t she denying it? I only mess with girls like her she should hit me up.” That doesn’t hit for me

[@seriuslyB]

He dissed Whitney harder than he diss Kendri k

[@atonscott]

Never seen a rapper dissected colonizer showed how he finesse Atlanta rappers 💯 drake should never say he out here like he trying free the slaves

[@yenneferofvengerberg4936]

kendrick made an entire diss based off lies but i guess that doesnt count when you suck so much dik, a wife beater giving parenting advice, cool song

[@christopherhaynes8101]

My ex explained this to me , Drake’s primary audience is women. So his choice of words and insults are more geared to hit with women. Your short, somebody taking your girl , those are insults that hit with women and his base. Kendrick doesn’t necessarily cater to his base because it’s a bit more mixed. Therefore his insults have to be more robust vs Aubrey, who could use more cosmetic disses. Nigga said he hate everything about you in the first song and that you should die in the next . I might not agree but those are insults aimed with a different level of aggression (even when presented artistically)

[@hellahardy]

Drake was literally an actor/singer. He jumped on the rap music with heavy outside assistance. He worked himself and with help manufactured a new persona and the Charts took him to tbe top. Our bro Kendrick was 💯 from day 1 and was destined for rap greatness.

[@anddickson]

There’s literally a video of Drake at 9 years old rapping with his dad. Cut this crap

[@maddyberkley1836]

well this canadian dude talked like he had been around a lil gang shit, and because that's common in america i just believed him. i just guessed he was in the trap house in canada or whatever but he was not even close

[@jaykristian745]

This song is still eerie. Kendrick did not give a single fuck. You can tell this song was less about lyrics for him. He just wanted to rip his entire bloodline apart. This will exist forever. Drake's grandkids will hear this. It's fucked up in the best way. Kendrick ate his ass up

[@Kal-El207]

But it was offensive for Drake to use AI Tupac? I’m all for Kendrick getting the dub. But why the bias?

[@clifton6934]

Big Facts. That's something not realizing this is on his Drake resume forever

[@junior5893]

What Ish is missing is no one thinks Kendrick was living this great life. He already detailed HIMSELF on Mr. Morale the trials and tribulations in his life and relationship. So when Drake attempts to drop bombs on his family life it doesn’t hit the same.

[@pazman77]

Thank you. If anything it makes you empathise with him more. If his infidelity made his wife cheat and now they are estranged but he still supports that second kid. Then we'll, damn, he is a man trying to be better and living with his mistakes.

[@Strawberryfearsforever]

​@@pazman77His kids look exactly like him.

[@pazman77]

​@@Strawberryfearsforever I agree. Just pointing out why Drake's angle was trash anyway.

[@tefthompson4354]

Right... imagine you reading your personal journal to us and then someone trying to use what you shared with us against you as if it's a diss.

[@christopherflowers8615]

This the same ish who got 5 tracks through good kid maad city & said it wasn't good lol . He just don't know what he listening to

[@Artimao]

This beef showed us how many people in the industry were actually bothered by Drake but didn't say nothing because his empire was too big to take a hit. Pusha made a great effort 5 years ago and now Kendrick finished the job

[@agaagga33akacooksupbeats73]

King kindrick

[@Rachael.Moreland.]

6:56 mark This is absolutely true. When people are jealous and envious, they will leap over every form of logic or reasoning to believe the worse about you.

[@mr.j410]

Go deeper(pause) drakes an employee. Who's his boss? Who's licensing him regardless off who he is?

[@fredztuhh]

​@@mr.j410no diddy

[@SheDuctive100]

“You already know it’s a 20v1” 😂

[@shesaidwhatshesaid2354]

Untraind ear = “I make music that electrify ‘em, you make music that pacify ‘em” Thinkers vs Followers

[@anddickson]

What’s electrifying about telling lies on another man ?

[@FlipStar26]

VOILA.

[@superproducercbiz]

Meet the grahams is the gonna go down in history as one of the greatest diss records of all time. Brutal, conceptual, personal, DARK, unique and masterful delivered. Everything doesn’t have to be a “BOP”

[@Greggdavidson94]

Kendrick did warn him and told him it’s something he shouldn’t do, Drake thought he was bluffing 😂

[@tamalaknox1438]

Exactly, I don't know how they misunderstood Euphoria and 6:16 in LA. He was warned and still push the line.

[@Tmiscia]

It’s just diabolically genius how stupid u gta be to piss off someone who knows ur secrets and kurupt said it himself kendrick a nice guy what did drake do to piss him off 😂

[@Greggdavidson94]

@@Tmiscia 😭😭

[@kynshii]

He dropped a psychological horror rap. I can Jordan Peele using this in one of his moves

[@fernsone]

Mannn.. can Jordan Peele direct the visuals for this joint!!! That would be mind blowing

[@tiffanybarefield1227]

​@fernsone omg that would be amazing!

[@fernsone]

@@tiffanybarefield1227 😱😱😱

[@JamesSmith-pc7vy]

This was some Silent Hill shit.

[@sidepriest]

Kenny Krueger type sht 😮‍💨

[@delsmontgomery]

people that talk about the replay value of this song, are so stupid. This was a DIRECT letter to Drake. It was not for EVERYONE to bop to, dance to, or dissect on. It was a psychogically-crafted, twisted, haunting way to address Drake, which is what makes it so powerful out of the whole discography of this beef

[@michaelball198]

Everybody talks about Family Matters, but nobody speaks on the fact that Drake embodied Sexy Red at one point on that track, which is WIIIIILD! Especially, in a diss track 😅

[@kennyly7502]

Which part?

[@KwokeKnightK]

​@@kennyly7502after dave free.. shake that ahh baby.. shake that ah for free.. Sexy redd said it inone of them trashy songs of hers

[@kellykahn7403]

​@@kennyly7502 "shake that as$ ho3 hands on your kneez"

[@kellykahn7403]

Like quavo using takeoff to diss chris brown

[@xandermartin2118]

“Can’t Channel youre masculine even when standing next to a woman” 😂😂😂

[@livingincreation]

That's something most men will question about their own self so that was a bomb directly to drakes self esteem 💀

[@Dontizzle24]

Kendrick gave us a: trap sound (Euphoria), Horror (Meet the Grahams), bar heavy song/ smooth song (6:16), and a party/club song (Not Like Us). Whether if you think he won or not, you really have to give him credit for beating the narratives surrounding his name in terms of artistry. Because a lot of people believed he was just a “conscious rapper”.

[@dashuntas.m4045]

Those “narratives” weren’t even believable lol, no one that listens to Kendrick’s music would put him in that box, especially after DAMN

[@Dontizzle24]

@@dashuntas.m4045 that’s not the point. The point is that it shows how great he is for exceeding those narratives.

[@mruchiha0209]

How do you feel about people saying he used tweets to write a song?

[@Sotherys662]

@@Dontizzle24who cares about what other people believe brother. TPAB is the most complex album that was ever made in any genre.

[@crawlinginfaithbdalingo5515]

I think after DAMN Kendrick proved how versatile he is. But you right. Each diss track had a different feel to it. And they all worked.

[@AFO_AnalyRics]

4:14 Exactly! I agree with Joe here. I got so tired of people trying to fact-check every bar. This is verbal warfare - it's like a debate on steroids. Part of your skill as an MC is your ability to manipulate the audience's perception of your opponent - even with lies. The fact that Kendrick was able to get people looking at Drake so differently from the way they did just minutes after he dropped his biggest blow in 'Family Matters' speaks to just how much of a superior MC Kendrick is. That was crazy.

[@Artimusk]

Finally someone talking about the genius of the timing of the drops and the ability to change the mood of the battle. Any celebrations that were had from Family matters were IMMEDIATELY CUT. Amazing.

[@NineEight_Nine]

Meet the Grahams is that loud "cough" in every zombie movie

[@elends2302]

You talmbout that shit where every nigga that heard it turn around and look at the homie like 👀👀👀👀

[@elainekellogg6345]

What

[@sidepriest]

LMFAO!!!

[@twintyro]

Well said lmao.

[@jermainejackson7641]

😂😂 good one

[@straightouttazambia2835]

Man that beat by Alchemist is witchcraft. It paints an imagery by itself of a serial killer walking into a family's home and then going room by room as he slaughters everyone in the house one by one, room by room.

[@atonscott]

Yo for real this nigga was Jason Michael and Kruger on this beat 😂

[@soonerlilsis]

That is exactly correct

[@julieah1000]

So well articulated!

[@JasonMrquinn]

Word! And what was also genius was that instead of slaughtering the family, Kendrick sat everyone down and told them a hard truth.

[@Strawberryfearsforever]

Omg this is what I saw!

[@coachmullen1]

This is the first time I've ever found Joe Budden to be likable. The drumline act was effing hilarious. Ok, Joe. You've earned a little grace with me. Well done

[@Kritacul]

I love how SOOOOOOOO many Drake defenders is like "He's lying." The information Kendrick had was creditable enough to put it out there. Drake is saying that his camp put it out there. Which is worse, meaning his camp got a mole in it along with a sex offender. But Drake does have the history of covering THIS type of stuff up. So Kendrick was a genius no matter what for bringing DOUBT up.

[@ericabraham3609]

Ish spent this whole pod tryna paint Drake as a victim.

Lightskin stick together

[@gilfordmccormack8140]

And he failed lol 🤣🤣🤣

[@TheNegrodamus89]

Nasty work

[@seriuslyB]

"I'm blamin' you for all his gamblin' addictions Psychopath intuition, the man that like to play victim"

[@SabrinaRobinson-xt2pb]

😂😂😂

[@B3nchwarm3r708]

Ish on the verge of tears this whole conversation 😂😂😂

[@glopezisobel7547]

Agreed 😂😂

[@reneemcfall2953]

His boy got cooked😂

[@CED.Dweller]

That beat was macabre.

[@TwiceBorn420]

Crazy thing is Im not a huge fan of either one of them, but what Kendrick just so masterfully did is going to be analyzed on so many levels for many years to come, its inevitable.👏🏾🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯

[@wayneebrilliant]

How can anyone say Family Matters is better than meet the Graham's? When he got to the last part with the "you lied!!" in the background, I was questioning myself and wondering what did I do wrong. 😂

[@Victor-bu8ce]

As a song family matters is better but as a diss? No way it’s even close tbh. Drake said you don’t have a happy family Kendrick then Kendrick said oh yeah? Your whole family gonna know who you are.

[@inthislifeofsin.]

FACTS!!!!

[@jsun7972]

The move to drop MTG only 1/2 hour after FM dropped was also a smart move. It took all the power out of what was probably Drakes best song in this beef. Drake did the same thing to himself when he dropped Taylor Made. Push ups was dope but it lost power when Drake put out Taylor Made which he later had to delete.

[@tm_35]

​@Victor-bu8ce my question is since when did making a diss become about making a good song?? When we talk about this beef 5 6 yrs from now nobody is gonn be takking about Family Matters bro i promise, Kendrink was right yo that nigga got the culture confused.. Meet The Graham seems like it's shifting the entire conversation this man's character is in question now lol it don't matter how catchy the song is

[@xHopshotx]

That beat was made in a way where it gives you a sinking feeling and there's nothing you can do about it like you're in quicksand.

[@dz-hz5kg]

That piano 🎹

[@lethaljones3814]

Great description

[@yungadizzle]

Perfect comparison

[@taylorfenton3960]

Like watching someone get in trouble and there’s nothing you do to help them.

[@soonerlilsis]

Exactly 💯

[@LOLI1079]

Kendrick: Like That- Warning Euphoria- Kill Shot Meet the Grahams- Funeral Not Like Us- Repast

[@hadijatkubrat3580]

😂😂😂😂

[@jonesy2891]

😂🤣

[@mirzasaysrelax]

Like that - first hit Euphoria- winning hit meet the grahams - funeral not like us- dancing and pissing on the grave

[@PardonThePosh]

🎯

[@haraciomonroe6307]

Cooked em extra crispy

[@kohenemoore]

AL was wispering " CANDYMAN" in the backround was like🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶

[@delberthaman1845]

Dot never said he was a perfect man. That’s what mr morale was about. Ish never heard the album either 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@brandonpenn9887]

They always put their clownish thoughts / words on standup men. They’re too offended for drake lol

[@Gurufromgsm]

Exactly I was thinking the same thing

[@djane1006]

He paint himself as a perfect man during the rap beef!. Yet he is with ig model in dumbo while his fiance and kids stay in LA

[@delberthaman1845]

@@djane1006 What does any of that have anything to do with what I said? So you are telling me that you yourself has never had any relationship problems? That’s something people have to deal with as an adult. That’s why nobody cared when Drake kept saying that. Everyone has has arguments, Everyone has had problems. Some people it gets physical. It’s a common thing. Is it right no, But it’s common. Drake would know that if he himself had ever been in real relationships. 🤷🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@everyonesopinionisdumb]

Oh u super team drizzy 😂😂 ​@@djane1006

[@BlowTorchDrizy1]

Meet the Grahams is a psycho killer sending you a real-time video of your family captured even though THAT FAMILY LIVE WITH YOU🤣🤣

[@dennisrodriguez7637]

Broooooooooo

[@mr.j410]

Facts

[@sidepriest]

Yooo 😂😂😂😂🤣

[@scottkirkland551]

Totally agree with you,for me it was like Hannibal the psychologist doing a family prevention

[@sherrondasa]

Kendrick's entire discography has been about showing how he is human and his life is not perfect. Why would Drake think "exposing" his imperfect life would be seen as a dig? Drake needs to go outside and touch grass. He is too online and the trolling has become his real life.

[@shanemclaren10]

Jo was spot on when he said family matters got forgotten instantly. I heard it when it dropped, heard meet the grahams and didnt re listen untill well after not like us dropped. Whatever he said, got stomped on. Ive now gone back and listened and its pretty good but in the whole scheme of things, it got squashed instantaneously and became irrelevant. Perfectly executed plan from kendrick

[@tyrunthetyrant]

“This a long life battle with yourself” the chuckle when he says “long” and then the anger in “battle with yourself” is just horrifying. Even the ad libs “ You lied” give that feeling of Kendrick cornering Drake in his own mind. That track is just HORRIFYING.

[@tm_35]

Bro that lil chuckle messed me up too, like I really didn't want to do this, believe it or not I'm tryn help u but this the only way I know how

[@asisiphoclay1568]

Bruuuuuh 😭😭😭

[@quintinx.3630]

A fundamental fact about all this is we know absolutely nothing about Aubrey. Kendrick has had so many people vouching for him and validating his character his whole career. People are defending Aubrey playing a character we know as Drake while Kendrick has spilled his heart in every album he gave us, to the point he subconsciously feels like family so even if you like Drake more you end up relieved Kendrick won.

[@ferrousallotrope]

Solid point

[@GoodLifeBreeze]

Great analysis. Great!

[@Ashley__Rose]

This. Aubrey’s character as Drake is just as fake as he was on the Disney channel.

[@kbrown3787]

what are you talking about, 14 yo Millie Bobbie Brown and 17yo Billie Eilish said he was like the nicest dude ever.

[@quintinx.3630]

@@kbrown3787 😂

[@Jayrod666]

Let’s not forget he warned us on the heart part 4 and euphoria he said “you gon tell a lie about me, I don’t tell the truth bout you💯

[@detrockcity3]

Whether it’s a lie or not, it’s Drake’s past that makes it all believable.

[@Kickinthescience]

This song was a perfect set up for Not Like Us

[@sw33tialucard]

Paints Kendrick like a psychopath, who has the ability to scare you and say the darkest shii one minute with a deadly stare in his face, and then say “I’m just joking” and make you laugh and dance the next minute.

[@leonelTure]

@@sw33tialucardfacts that’s some terrifying shit

[@jm6406]

@@sw33tialucard the power of an artist in the truest sense

[@DARKCITYENT23]

2024 hit em up

[@ChamereJachee]

Kendrick executed this perfectly 👌🏾

[@andrewyb830]

Did they skip over the fact Drake uncle played back up guitar on the sample? Diabolical 😂

[@babyboyno10]

It’s a song, Ish is taking it more personal than anyone. Drake is his boo.

[@kgema89]

Ether 2.0 .... my Lord that Friday night was so legendary because Drake had the shortest vacation in human history 😂

[@hudaifah-nn4re]

Low-key worst then ether😭

[@troublenabubble2571]

Buddy couldn’t even get his luggage zipped

[@jaz6789]

The reason why people believe things about Drake and question allegations about Kendrick is because of character and patterns. Joe is the only one that really knows RAP, Kendrick has height, width and depth.

[@ianmullins4387]

Ish is completely ignoring the fact Drake opened himself up to all of this, mainly because no one with his same level of popularity has ever publicly questioned the weird shit he's done over the years. The reason people are allowing Kendrick's words hold more weight is because Drake has done all of the things he spoke on. It's an uphill battle if you have a real history of questionable behavior.

[@cedrickwilson]

Yup. If you walk around with dignity and respect and treat ppl as such then you're going to get the benefit of the doubt when ppl talking greasy about you. When you walk around arrogant and treating ppl like 💩 then ppl going to believe when negative things are said about you. It ain't rocket science.

[@djane1006]

@@cedrickwilson the people who portray themselves as perfect often times are the ones doing the unthinkable. In time we will see because one thing I know is when we put a certain onerous there the universe have a way to bring it back on us. So Kendrick better be living an almost perfectly clean life. Plotting to end someone’s career is nasty work that always come back around

[@cedrickwilson]

Those ppl you're referring to always had signs of being trash humans. Bill Cosby for instance, always had whispers about him. If you move like you got some sense then ppl are more likely to respect you. You get what you give.

[@cedrickwilson]

@@djane1006 the ppl who portray to be perfect, yes they are doing the unthinkable. Bill Cosby for instance. 2Pac and Kendrick don't portray to be perfect. You don't have to be perfect to be considered a good human being. If you put here with questionable behavior then sooner or later ppl are going to speak on it.

[@damarisalaman]

Ish really out here fighting for his life/argument hog tied & blind folded in a boat without a paddle about to hit a waterfall. I ain’t EVER seen a grown man go THIS HARD for another grown ass man in all my years😭😭😭

[@BluEx22329]

Wow😂

[@BallCDO]

In battle rap or disses its about who has more believability and that was clearly KL. One day Drake stans will get that.

[@marcellmclaurin6775]

Watching this segment again, ish is definitely OVHO

[@jaye5926]

no he is being non bias & honest 🙄

[@marcellmclaurin6775]

@@jaye5926 it's a podcast they are there to be phony and not a Stan for either side

[@Illthallion]

Antwan "Ish" Marby is a HARDCORE Drake fan, that is most obvious. He's crying like it was his father or something. What an idiot.

[@djane1006]

Kendrick stole that line from Twitter those kids said the want money from all the lines that Kendrick scraped from Twitter and then send as his lyrics such an imposter

[@jaye5926]

@@djane1006 true...

[@promellowboski]

😂 at Ish face during this whole thing. He looks super tight right now like they was talking about him personally 😂😂😂😂

[@ericgarrison93]

😂😂😂rightt

[@lyricistanonymous8126]

He’s so distraught 😩😒😅

[@psmathews1253]

He just might be. Looks sus to me😢

[@ecoll8950]

An unnatural allegiance to losers - Katt Williams

[@Sky_Blaze]

That's so sad..imagine defending a known puppet with ghostwriter, who on top of everything is being called a pdf. Drake fans are weirdo lames that should never be allowed to speak on music or someone else's character.

[@Xallous]

lmao it's so hard to talk to drake fans.... They don't accept defeat well.

[@therebellion96]

We All Remember Where We Were When We Heard *meet the grahams*

[@musicxavier323]

DEAR ADONIS …. LMAOOOO WRAP IT UP

[@sundayikhuenbor7095]

For real 😂😂😂😂

[@AngeBiampandou]

LFMAOOOOOOOOO

[@MichaelBrown-ti1un]

As soon as I heard that, I walked away from the laptop 😂😂😂😂😂. I didnt 100% know where he was going, but had a general idea just off that opening bar. Kendrick is just different.

[@gmarava7322]

I'm tryna decide which is a more disrespectful start to a diss "dear Adonis " or "that's y I f****d your b*tch " ....dear Adonis is nuts tho😂

[@Ontherockswithjayda]

I was so dumbfounded like hold on whaaaat!???

[@taylormade9748]

Joe Budden was spot on. Kendrick controlled the mood change. Kendrick was always one step ahead every round. I love Drake and K Dot’s music, but Kendrick had a flawless victory

[@thisismyinferno]

Did this dude just ask, where is Kendrick going into depth? What?! This IS the depth. All of Meet The Grahams. He warned Drake in Euphoria and 6:16 in LA.

[@Jabari410]

For him to follow up that boogy man "ooooooh" at the end of Euphoria with Meet the Grahams was genius

[@fredztuhh]

6:16 in LA was perfect in between those tracks as a sort of warning Drake crashed out with Family Matters

[@FlipStar26]

That "ooooooh' is so bone-chilling. Hits me EVERY time I listen to it.

[@christhesoprano]

Joe explaining how brains work to Ish is insane lmaooo please

[@mbealhighjump]

Ish likes to selectively play dumb. Every other argument he says “I’m logical,” but this one he’s now suddenly ultra confused 😅

[@lonerebeI]

Kendrick said a lot that was true, that's one of the reasons the impact is so big

[@Victor-bu8ce]

“Kendrick is for people who want to better themselves and Drake is for dumb mfkers who don’t wanna succeed in life by looking a bit deeper into things “ is certainly a take 😂 sums up Drake fans tho perfectly

[@mdlamini3982]

Man, Drake never stood a chance if we being honest.

[@ThePlaybackRoom]

The Drake Stan’s are putting up a better fight than him.

[@jonesy2891]

NEVER 🎯

[@Kadeda]

Kendrick won by strategy. If Family Matters was the last track we heard, Drake would have won.

[@mirzasaysrelax]

AMEN

[@naomithompson7240]

Facts 😂🤣😂

[@jeffwilliams2828]

Let’s not forget K Dot warned Drake twice before MTG

[@fredztuhh]

He would've kept it hiphop but Drake had to shit on his wife which historically is his go to tactic

[@samihtameez8584]

So he warned him that he would expose him as a pedophile? If he was really authentically warning him, that would mean he either lied about the pedophelia, or he just didn't care enough to expose him, and only waited until he talked about whitney

[@Kal-El207]

@@fredztuhhKendrick brought his son. It was bound to happen.

[@arkeshn729]

​@@Kal-El207Drake named dropped Whitney in Pushups so he started dragging family in first.

[@Mocushion4dapushn]

“Let me talk please” 😂 Ish be turning pink

[@BigdadiSixty9GTC]

This was Eminem's Mockingbird and Story of Adidon mixed together. Eminem talks to his daughter about him and Kim's dysfunctional ways with piano playing saying everything is going to be ok. Kendrick reversed it and is talking to Drake's family, son and fake daughter.

[@mirzasaysrelax]

what makes you sure its a fake daughter? Tbf he did the same with Adonis

[@BigdadiSixty9GTC]

@@mirzasaysrelax he was doing paternity testing with Adonis to make sure. Wasn't because he was hiding him. There's nothing to hide. Keeping private and hiding are too different things

[@vee_del_sol]

"I started mourning the ones I've lost" 😂😂😂

[@jonesy2891]

💀

[@riseonthetrack]

WILD😂😂😂😂

[@ritzkola2302]

Meet the grahams was like Michael Myers rapping

[@ja9145]

Idk why theyre having such am argument over the daughter thing when theres much more serious allegations in that songs. But the reason why the daughter thing is more believable is because drake already hid a kid before. Drake doesnt have any past stuff to back up his allegations about kendrick.

[@uriellevelupriley684]

1:46 Joe Exactly 💯✳️🎯✳️K. Dot changed the entire mood.

[@allenkoe1]

Kendrick wins it’s over

[@westerngroovetv]

Chill.. Kendrick can still lose. I don't fw drake. But I think he can come back. Just hear me out before you go crazy.. At this point drake can't try to out rap Kendrick.. or double down on domestic violence or Kendrick kid.. if he does that Kendrick will respond and bury him again bc he's just a better artist. I don't think Drake quit. I think he just retreated to fight again. Drake has to come out with something crazy.. I'm talking like, get Kendrick girl in the music video or something. Part of the song got the video of them lying to Kendrick giving him the fake info. If he does that drake would have taken the lead. Ak has eluded to drake dropping again. And so has mal. 2 ppl in contact with drake. So I'm not thinking the battle is over. If you ask me, Drake wrote the heart part 6 which is why it was mid. He needs more time for his ghost writers to write a few more songs. And then he's gonna spark it back up. Full songs dedicated to Kendrick. They cookin up right now. But like I said, he has to drop a bomb. He already dropped his nuke and it didn't work. So he has to do something beyond music. Drop a voice recording of Dave free saying he hit Kendrick girl. Something. But it ain't over yet.

[@cookiemonster64]

​@@westerngroovetvare you done lol drake lost 😂

[@davedupond1231]

Drake team of ghostwriter lost a beef to a single rapper!

Kendrick won b4 it started

[@saintreem]

​@westerngroovetv that's not kendrick girl they been broke up

[@VOLRAK1]

😂 Ish burning. Trying to paint the picture of everybody hates Drake, and he was at a disadvantage because everyone loves Kendrick😂😂foh

[@SHANNY13_96]

Lol 😂😅

[@lyricistanonymous8126]

He’s clowning 🤡

[@fourduce3840]

Why your face like that to ish was funny as hell 😂, then joe " why you asking him ? Had me in tears 😭😭😭

[@charlezxiii140]

6:58 Foo said "let me talk please" and I got an ad LOL

[@polterkat]

Milli Vanilli Vs. Machiavelli If you're failing to see the depth of Kendrick's lyrics that's a self-report not a fact. Listen to Euphoria or Not Like Us a couple dozen more times and realize all the things you're still catching for the first time. Shit has L A Y E R S. If you just like fluff and you don't like getting into it that's fine go dance in the corner or whatever. The rest of us over here doing an autopsy You're arguing about how good they appeal on first and second listens. For Drake that's all you'll ever get. For Kendrick that's just the moment you spot the iceberg

[@coryr94]

Milli Vanilli had girl I'm gonna miss you, Blame it on the rain, Don't forget my number, don't sleep they'd destroy most groups in a versuz.

[@JMartinJ]

@@coryr94they aint even sing that shit foo

[@chrisfrank8564]

I get what u tryna do but cmon, lol u tellin me not like us is LAYERSS 😆 U defeated ur own point w/ this one

[@coryr94]

@@JMartinJ wait whaaaa????

[@G5.Giotto]

@@chrisfrank8564it has less layers but there are layers

[@ihaveallthequestions]

I may be odd but Meet the Grahams is my favorite because of how the tone was it was methodical. To be clear they are all my favorite Because each has a different tone but that 1 is just a notch above.

[@TheForbiddenOne55]

Where Euphoria, 6:16 and Not Like Us are like hack n slash movies, MTG was like a evil dr. dissecting someone on an operating table while they're wide awake. Straight up precise disaection of Drake's character and he could do nothing but sit back and watch in horror

[@SamuelMokuoane]

My thing is, how the hell does this guy Kendrick think to piece all of these together? Like how fast and meticulous does his brain work? You find a lot of nuggets in these songs every time you listen and the way he’s able to rearrange his flow. It is ridiculous

[@riotgear6182]

Dude in the white has that look like he just heard his homie got beat down and the dude is looking for anybody that rolls with him lol

[@dashuntas.m4045]

This shit just proved the saying “A good name is better than riches”

[@Ava-ze6kz]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@TheAlkebulanTrust]

The ending of this diss was lethal 😭😭😭

[@dsen2283]

Meet the Grahams was masterful move. It the perfect move to pause Drake for a second and for Not Like Us to hit with full force.

[@9reen_]

Drake is a hip hop fan, respectfully Kendrick is hip hop period

[@TikkacanKut2]

Kendrick was never on the defensive or need to explain in his diss. He placed questions attacks Drake and forced him to answer questions. He knew drake was go for hype beats and change the tone with meet the Grahams. He control the beef, aim at his character and label him pedo, which worst the haven a DV in the public eyes. He warn drake and he didn't listen. Then end the battle with a club diss to let drake know he's a versatile artist as wel.

[@KingContrary]

On another episode of Kendrick offended my YT girlfriend….ish is still tight 😂

[@stinestizzlethegreat6887]

Umar flashbacks

[@mirandatwumasi7737]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@devotiffy978]

I feel like Kendrick stayed out the light for this exact purpose, drake really didnt have much dirt compared to what kdot had on Aubrey

[@dhynacash4114]

Meet the Grahams had me considering my own performance as a mother 💀

[@ItsRicheRich]

The part that ish was missing is that if you got exposed for hiding a child before then it is believable that it may be true again since it was actually true before. Drake has video footage of looking like a creep towards underage girls. However making up something that we've never seen before or anything close (similar) to it is entirely different & harder to believe.

[@anddickson]

He wasn’t hiding a son. The mother had come to him with the child , they were investigating doing dna test to get proof, a girl sleeping with someone on Drakes camp leaked it to Pusha T and Pusha went public with it .

[@bluecafe509]

Hiding a kid from you?? How are his kids your business?

[@JamieMarks-so9ns]

​@bluecafe509 it's the fact that he was ashamed of the woman HE chose to sleep with and rather than facing the consequences of his life he was gonna damn his child to a life of fatherlessness to protect himself like a coward

[@samihtameez8584]

@@JamieMarks-so9ns He was going to revealk him on the adiddas line, but Kanye outted him before that. If he really wanted to hide the kid, nobody would know about it. He wold sign him up for adoption and not tell anyone. Kanye and pusha both just used that as a way to take him down

[@JamieMarks-so9ns]

@samihtameez8584 I guarantee he knew he was about to be exposed, and decided to get ahead of it by revealing the info in a way that would give him back control of the narrative

[@Terrielmr]

The instrumental alone feels like the prelude to an ass whooping. Shit felt sinister.

[@Pirrelli8]

The fact you can hear Aubrey!!!!!!! sample in the background made it a classic.

[@Charmaine6645]

Ish big mad 🤣🤣🤣

[@babyboyno10]

Big mad😂😂😂😂

[@YEP_THATS_IT11]

He just wants to attack women! Its so obvious! And I'm almost 1000% sure he's pissed at Balck women!

[@Donn_G]

​@YEP_THATS_IT11 I normally don't agree with these sentiments but he tweaking shit its hella women that defending drake and ppl belive Kendrick beat his woman but on here only defending drake

[@Dave....]

"You think that's true?" lmao

[@kynshii]

S/O to Ish for going down with the OVO ship 🚢⚓

[@nolimitbeau761]

😭😭😭

[@Earley_World]

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@beefy45]

Playing that violin as the cold water hits his feet

[@Los150]

😂😂😂

[@joebrown6778]

Oversimplification of Ish's point, while also PROVING Ish's point. The public was primed to hate Drake even before he objectively lost. The bias against Drake is real.

[@macabrew]

that drop almost makes me think Kendrick had something different to drop depending on what Drake had to say.. It was locked and loaded

[@Gahr20]

Ish not gone act like he wasn’t in Gillies comments when Gillie was shitting on Kendrick’s disses lol

[@allgopodcast]

I hope somebody fights for me the way Ish fights for Drake

[@makwalamolekoa8212]

The Dracula piano 🎹