Clearing The Air | The Joe Budden Podcast

[@carsonhayward5903]

My synopsis: Mal - Hard realization that business and friends don’t mix. Roary - Understands business but didn’t think it would come to this because of friendship. Joe - Business is business nothing personal. “So What!?”

[@ogdecky-fortnitevrclips2230]

👌🏾

[@HighTopJop]

Basically

[@bbkingme8831]

No. Its thiss. Mal. I was round u when u was broke living with me for years. I joined because u asked me to. And made nd helped the podcast grow. Rory. Nothing to say. Just look at how joe disrespects rory and says shut up rory all the time. And say i wont let a person like u talk to me like that. But when rory responds the same, joe says rorys trippn theyre supposed to be friends. Bjt joe only disrespects rory and tslks down to him. Joe. I want money. I want the status. I wanna be big time. I love this life and i will cut off my friends to keep the money for the moment going. Moral of story. Joe should kno money and things dont last forever. He takes his rap career failure and overshoots everything. I see a fake dude in joe. That want attention and is delusional.

[@dasho1324]

Bingo

[@ReppinChristFitness]

@@bbkingme8831 LOL no. Original comment is correct.

[@Senorjadenw]

Mal: “You owe your friends respect.” Joe: “I don’t believe that.” That should basically tell you everything you need to know lmao

[@ThisisStephennn]

Its facts tho. U don't owe anybody anything. I don't respect someone that demands respect or anything from me just cuz we cool

[@yup1992]

@@ThisisStephennn okay Joe

[@DrGameNwatch]

@@ThisisStephennn This is a terrible take. Mal and joe are long term friends, they owe eachother respect. What long term friends do you have that you don't respect? None. Otherwise you wouldn't be friends.

[@TitoBunkN]

@@DrGameNwatch you don't owe anybody anything, you people with this enticement shit are crazy, I choose to respect you if I don't you have the choice to be my friend or not. We all have choices and are not obligated to do anything . Secondly as long term friend mal should've showed up for joe on the pod that's why Joe said he never though mal would've left him hanging like that🤦🏽‍♂️

[@itsfqndave]

@@DrGameNwatch you still owe them nothing. Get out of your feelings. You give them respect because they are your friends. But, first and foremost you give them respect because they're a human. But you owe your friend nothing. Giving respect to your friend or to anyone is part of being courteous and being a good person. How much respect you give varies on the history, interactions and experiences you've had with the person.

[@TheCNSR]

Damn, the amount of deflection, projection and contradiction from Joe is wild. I thought he was a sensible guy, but ego and emotions got him ignoring logic.

[@marquanbowie4808]

if you ever listen to Joe he always been that type he speaks really well what may sound like apology for him owning up sometimes be deflections

[@ishort8401]

False. Rory and Mal are actually the two insensitive ones and obv they were plotting for a min. it’s easy to lead someone to act a certain way and then “call” them out for the action that you created.

[@UptownAlleyFashion]

When did y’all think he was a sensible guy? Lol have y’all not been following his career? Dudes been a maniac

[@TheCNSR]

@@ishort8401 My thoughts have nothing to do with Rory and Mal, so you can save the chat about sensitivity. Listening to Joe, he was talking like he doesn't value honour or loyalty.

[@UptownAlleyFashion]

@Joseph Brandon you’re right. He’s literally ALWAYS been this way. Joe Budden pretty much created the love and hiphop culture with all his internet drama. He is literally one of the first to be a celeb and have his drama continuously aired out on social media. We know too much about Joe to ever think one day he’s going to wake up a mentally and emotionally stable man.

[@dopemank2364]

Fun fact: I actually tallied it up and mal said respect 232 times during this episode. Mad respect

[@Jaxon_FG24]

Fam lol PLEASE tell me just threw that out there nd u didn’t seriously count

[@JoeHard86]

@@Jaxon_FG24 🤣🤣🤣

[@Vizion04]

Lmfao

[@ddotgil]

“That’s crazy”

[@Crypto_nino]

How do you say "this is My show!" Without saying "This is my show!"??😂

[@jasondavis244]

Exactly, Joe could of been way more brutally honest about this situation but because they are friends he took it easy on them. Mal out of line talking about he should of stop the pod and it’s something he help built. Hell no Joe built that shit he just took them for the ride.

[@romeano4882]

Just like this 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@treybear8174]

@@jasondavis244 man shut up

[@jasondavis244]

@@treybear8174 so what’s your take on this?

[@Smartkid2387]

Or maybe you name the podcast after you lol

[@jeanlouis1898]

I took a shot every time Mal said “respect”....I’m currently in the ER

[@joshuaarnold3730]

😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀

[@lilskimmilk5049]

He talmbout respect

[@Thrivetribe47]

He didn’t say it enough🥴

[@polan7434]

Lol🤣🤣🤣😂✌🏿

[@kerry-annpowell3061]

ha haha ha ha

[@ozzyozbourne2088]

Joe wanted to say he’s the boss so bad 🤣😂😂😂😂

[@alexclarke4775]

Charlemagne was right. The moment Joe named the JBP it was a countdown to this day. Joe's a rights holder and in the content game that's all that matters and Joe knows it. he could cut them in with equity but off this episode, don't see that happening.

[@bigchivo4199]

He is though

[@ThoughtsofSAND]

He finally said it

[@azoladyonta9474]

I have so much respect for Mal. This conversation only enhances my respect.

[@JM-qn3tf]

🤡

[@sulister3]

Joe never forgot how mal & rory laughed when Jay said "SO WHAT" to him in public. Seems like he held on to that embarrassing moment and patiently waited for an opportunity to say - through his actions - laugh now "SO WHAT!!"

[@chrisandtheworld]

Not gonna lie I probably would’ve laughed if I was Joe’s friend LOL but I at least also understand frustration with that moment.

[@beeloveyb7893]

Right! When he brought that story up you can tell he was salty about them laughing at him.

[@sinamen516]

Yep Joe the worst kind of friend....hold on to the past, then bring it up later as the excuse for his poor behavior. I couldn't be friends with Joe

[@ADG.Est.1988]

No he's using that incident as an excuse to. Validate his actions and feelings towards his boys. These are mutually exclusive occurrences.

[@kemayj]

He took that personally * Michael Jordan voice

[@MacLethal]

I don't listen to this show very often. Maybe once every few months. But I just listened to the first 30 minutes of Mal and Rory venting their feelings, and the first thing Joe did is launch into his tirade about Jay-Z saying "So what?" I immediately cut it off. Guys, end this shit while y'all still have your dignity. Joe did not gain the perspective from this, that y'all did. It's over.

[@TheDroneZoneIRL]

Damn, what up Mac! Good perspective, Joe seems like he holds a grudge and hasn't matured at all from this. Better for them all to call it a day before they lose their friendship.

[@Wahidkhalid]

Fax

[@MarceloAbans]

Agreed! It's a fucking shame too. Like Mal said, if you ain't respect the shit won't work.

[@nov23gbe]

One more incident and it’s over

[@SquishyEggo]

Rory and Mal need a part ownership of the podcast

[@hitokiribattousai6114]

Mal talking about "respect" sounding like Iverson talking about practice 😂

[@antg7553]

Underrated comment lol

[@Komplexkai]

Cadence and everything lol

[@mildmayheadless5217]

Oh damn 😂😂😂 On a separate note, just off your username, you hype about 'Rurouni Kenshin: The final/The beginning'? Or you watched it already?

[@hitokiribattousai6114]

@@mildmayheadless5217 I just put this as my username as a random throwback haha. I didn't know a live action movie was coming out. Tbh most live action films based off anime tend to be trash so I stay away from them

[@mildmayheadless5217]

@@hitokiribattousai6114 Haha, aiiight! Totally get it. It's def hard to translate the action in anime to a live setting. Thanks for the answer.

[@GooFFiee]

Actually shows how real Mal is.. Joe and rory joking and shit. Mal stone faced the whole time.

[@kevinegbune1088]

Mal is a real one. One of the realest out there.

[@kambasworld1]

I agree, he ain't no pretender.

[@dustynnprosser6259]

He’s confident in what he speaks about. The other two aren’t.

[@revirdkcalb]

Yeah, Rory was faking it for the pod, Mal was dead serious, wasn't feeling the vibe and kept it real.

[@tasha1985]

@@revirdkcalb Roary was tryna keep his job Mal already knew that they was fired.

[@primosound23]

“Call him daddy podcast” Shultz 🤣🤣🤣💀most fitting title for this episode

[@Peprahism]

Ayyyy Brilliant idiots gang

[@nunosantos5376]

BI podcast brought me here! This two work for Joe, they took some time figuring that.

[@wrestlingtapes2036]

Schultz not funny

[@damarimoland1613]

@I hate He hers and he him be normal yup he’s getting to the bag

[@ahmds6541]

Watched this after BI. Schulz was too funny but real talk mal looks weak I see Joe’s point lol

[@Quebodawson]

Lemme save y’all some time. Joe: “This my shit” Mal and Rory: having to come to terms with it.

[@kristee2947]

In a nutshell. On one hand Joe let them come back even though everyone on this thread knows the show was gonna be successful without them. On the other a fucked up way to show Rory whos runs this shit! But who should have sat who down first. They both were wrong for they way they handled their emotions. IM with Mal Friends go thru shit but RESPECT IS NON NEGOTIABLE. I love this podcast!

[@mrervb]

😆 funniest comment ever!

[@nonenone9493]

Thank you lol

[@MJ-ow8vd]

Yep.

[@blane6592]

Pretty much!

[@CallmeMoonMan828]

Sounds like Joe already had his mind set on moving forward without the guys. He knew it was over. His mind was set and made up. Been listening for like 5 years. End of an Era honestly.

[@Spawn303]

I think his mind was set from the get up. He NEVER looked at them as friends but as subordinates and employees

[@Jcye]

Fr

[@MsSexyDiva4Lyfe]

Right! Cuz he was very disrespectful in this podcast

[@ulioh1888]

Mal is that you??

[@pameladay8847]

Joe just treated them like some random ass bitches and tried to ghost them. No respect at all.

[@makismako9910]

Who is back here after Rory and Mal respond to Joe??

[@DBonezz]

I am!

[@DBonezz]

It makes me sick that ppl still support Joe Budden! This D+ rapper now turned businessman is nothing but a black eye on black ppl. Facts! Why isn't joe being cancelled? He has blatantly stole from his friends and co hosts..he then blatantly lied about why he fired them! He then sexually harassed a black woman so why his he still on the air? Is this what you support? This is acceptable..? In my opinion it is not and he needs to go!

[@radhamesreyes5562]

This shit is even more interesting to watch after watching their response. To watch how fake joe is being while they’re opening up about everything is crazy

[@NovaaktheKING]

Mal will forever be one of the realest dudes to ever walk the planet 💪🏾

[@anonxthegreatreddragon3223]

Lol overpaid employees. The show was fire without them their for weeks. And started before they were added to the podcast. They don't have a brand without Joe 😂

[@dakidobf]

Rory seems like he just wants things back to normal. Mal seems like he's lost all respect for Joe and is just fulfilling his contractual obligations. Joe seems like he doesn't really care what either of them do cuz he knows that he has solid options in Ish and Ice. I can see this iteration of the JBP ending once contracts expire

[@megmur1766]

No he doesn't Bc ice and ish don't want to pod twice a week. They sat in as a favor but they don't care to pod

[@StockForYou101]

Ain't gone lie I like Ice and Ish better.

[@megmur1766]

@@StockForYou101 well they don't want to pod so y'all just gonna have to do with what they already gave y'all

[@Magnus_VII]

Word

[@dakidobf]

@@megmur1766 You think if Joe offers them a contract they're going to decline? Before JBP, I had no clue who Ish was and only knew Ice as a twitter troll lol. What else do they have going on that's going to give them this type of exposure?

[@km.7416]

If “Friends and business don’t mix” was a group. 😕

[@jean522]

Joe the boss them niggas the workers

[@crazynumbers7235]

@@jean522 bro dead ass worker not partners big difference i don’t get it mal mad because Rory got sent home lol wtf

[@jaseg9853]

Totally off topic.. thats a fine ass avi 👀👀👀

[@B.Piercesports]

Never

[@user-gb2vk2ff8x]

Facts 🤣🤣🤣

[@emprodabob]

Joe told Mal the business of the pod isn't any business of his and Joe said he doesn't owe his friends respect... This ain't lasting long

[@LesRed]

Joe owns the pod he doesn’t owe Mal any explanation. Mal just has to turn up, play with his phone and occasionally have some input, tap dance for his celebrity friends and cash his check✌🏾🇬🇧

[@jayburnham3994]

When Joe tried to reach him for 3 days then he randomly showed up to the pod to press Joe in from of parks and sayvon howd that go... I need the details of that convo because I'd prolly tell mal to same thing. It's like yo I tried to reach you but you purposely ignored me to try and use some type of embarrassment tactic. And not only are you no longer asking about rory like you claimed, you reading these comments online so you came to talk business? I thought you were the cool guy. Nothing matters because your set.

[@Inuheishi]

@@jayburnham3994 yeah. You can’t talk about there seemingly being no rush to fix it AFTER I tried to reach you for three days and then on your time when you feel like it, pop up tryna talk. That’s wack

[@emprodabob]

@@LesRed aaaaand there is the disconnect because he was telling the viewers when the Spotify deal ended that he comes to them about business dealings... That must have been bullshit

[@dwhite8997]

It's definitely shaky af

[@teewhy7075]

Rory and Mal came into this interview with new energy and tried to move forward. It's clear joe was still in his feelings and made it awkward

[@susux7332]

Agreed!!

[@radhamesreyes5562]

He came in waiting to give that “so what” story

[@tb8848]

Yeah bruh. JOE is so conceited it makes me wanna punch something.

[@teewhy7075]

Once joe gave his sarcastic Cool at (21:40) go look at how Mal's demeanor changes. He's been around him long enough to know Joe was on his bullshit.

[@RookieMistakeYT]

That’s Joe tho. He’s emotional, unstable and arrogant. He’s a joke. Idek why people care to listen to any opinion he has. Dude can’t accept he chose the wrong lane, was a failure compared to his peers (because of his personality) and he’ll always self-destruct. Joe made everything about Joe without even once considering their feelings which sums up Joe as a person. Joe loves Joe and has blinders on for any criticism; constructive or otherwise!

[@treybear8174]

Clearing the air?????😂😂😂😂😂😂 bruh air is still wild thick but I’m rollin😂😂

[@bowser1009able]

Mal and Rory: Its the respect..we're brothers Joe: "Aint nobody came to see you Otis"

[@gregwatson3295]

😭😭

[@clevedave4406]

😂😂😂

[@delaurendavis3905]

💀😭

[@electricbeing993]

🤣🤣

[@ChasingFab]

😭😭😭😂

[@psych007]

These guys are no longer friends, they just don't know it yet.

[@kaaiwilliams3629]

Oh yeah, but some random internet nigga knows it OK 👌🏽

[@hartfantom]

@@kaaiwilliams3629 lol you telling truth. Everyone is a damn yin yang master at human relations.

[@kbhaze6862]

@@kaaiwilliams3629 The subreddit is worse

[@LouieV6]

@@kbhaze6862 Worse than the KZbin comment section?

[@kaywess1738]

Damn.

[@saabirahnelson3218]

I extremely miss all three of them being on the podcast together.

[@ifrr8337]

Yep! I watch SO many old pods going back to the 200’s (some of the very best!). Compilations too because I have been a supporter from the beginning. I watch & listen to both of their pods now, supporting them. They brought me so many laughs and joy together!

[@muhfkajones]

@@ifrr8337 you're not alone in your sentiments 😒

[@dgoodson06]

Same

[@mrgwclipz]

Get over it.

[@nagyyoung8129]

Joe needs to get got

[@ringbellz1062]

I respect them for coming on air and talking about their issues. A lot of other shows don’t do that even when the audience can tell it’s something going on. Cause they talk about everybody else’s shit all day lol so salute to them.

[@hawaiiantimes7702]

Joe told Rory to take a few days off, then hit um with the “no call-no show voluntary termination policy”. Damn!!!

[@godfatther6837]

Few days not weeks

[@Kemelya]

Fired on your day off

[@rachellee8755]

Well what joe did was low, you don’t tell someone take couple of days off then hit him with the no show card,

[@godfatther6837]

@@rachellee8755 but they took weeks off not days

[@rachellee8755]

@@godfatther6837 I apologise then

[@alane2954]

Mal and Rory finding out how to walk in Dame Dash shoes...Joe always wanted to be the Hov of something lol

[@raheemharris26]

Dame dash had ownership unlike mal or rory.

[@LimitlessJA]

@@raheemharris26 he just talking bruh Niccas say anything for a response

[@fysean]

Except joe acting like dame.

[@timbradford1673]

@@raheemharris26 ownership of what

[@raheemharris26]

@@timbradford1673 dame owned part of rocafella. Mal and rory don't own anything

[@lungelobaba9942]

When Mal said he could get a bag anywhere in the world Boy he wasn't lying😯😯😯

[@beeeee4042]

Was he though

[@JonJayAllDay]

@@beeeee4042 yes, he was lol

[@kjj2656]

@@JonJayAllDay lol you must not know who his brother is

[@EvilDarkskin]

That bag little.

[@wulfisthegang]

Eh! Would he get that bag w/o the opportunity, given?

[@aguy658]

The saga ain’t over I still feel the tension in the air

[@LesRed]

Yep I read the room✌🏾🇬🇧

[@Arthur-rf6rz]

With Mal maybe

[@karlsylvain]

because mal is emotional

[@megmur1766]

@@karlsylvain Joe is too. This isn't going to end well with those two.

[@blane6592]

Fax!

[@Eli-zo9yp]

Rory & Joe seem to be near back to normal but you can tell that things between Joe & Mal will never be the same again

[@citylights3452]

Jamil will be fine

[@temimakinde2377]

I just said this to my husband the other day...Rory and Joe were always professional friends so I can see that returning with ease but Mal and Joe is a whole different story...

[@b.o.1951]

Mal shouldn’t have turned his back on the homie.

[@Eli-zo9yp]

@@b.o.1951 he didn't, he was playing mediator & in turn Joe basically told him to back off since nothing belongs to him and he's only a part time employee. Safe to say it hurt Mal's feelings and he probably doesn't care about contributing to the show much.

[@SOULREAPER8541]

“Just don’t hit me” - Joe

[@JustXavier]

This is like an episode of the Real Housewives where they have to do a reunion special and talk about the fight.

[@olwethusilo7155]

😂😂😂

[@Pistolwhipperz]

Joe is Nene. Rory is Kim. Mal is Sheree.

[@JustXavier]

@@Pistolwhipperz For Rory and Amal you have to name people who aren’t in the show. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😭

[@aep3922]

🤣🤣

[@Pistolwhipperz]

@@JustXavier BLOOP! LoL!

[@sunflowermama4297]

Everyone knows that a person who refers to themselves in third person has narcissistic traits. Joe did this multiple times in this video. I feel bad for Rory and Mal. They finally came to the realization of who Joe really is.

[@glengaines4286]

I caught that too. He does it often and it’s fine but in a serious convo like this and doing it it comes off like a narcissist for sure.

[@muhfkajones]

@Glen Gaines Joe's been a narcissist since forever though. Glad they went their separate ways and are prospering. Hate the pod broke up still tho. I lean more to Mal and Rory than I do Joe. I knew of Joe first but I also felt I couldn't keep just giving him a pass, so to say 🤷🏿‍♂️ Almost like enabling a alcoholic. I just couldn't keep doing it. I tap in with Joe's pod every now and then but I can't respect how he handled this situation.

[@nezbit10301]

Prolly decided to replace them at that point

[@mrvignette]

Mal and Joe aint never gonna be the same.

[@LesRed]

I’d go as far as all three of them will never be the same, that’s why I think they shouldn’t have returned. As men they have no self respect. They returned and got put in their place for the world to see✌🏾🇬🇧

[@michael43567]

facts. This has been eye-opening for Mal. He'll never look at Joe the same. I went through the same shit with a friend. Loyalty & respect is everything.

[@CliffLegit]

& it’s all joes fault

[@connoisseuroftigolbitts]

MAL literally said he was upset Joe tried to replace them These dudes in their feelings

[@OMOninja]

that's a LIE , they would be much better !! Men usually don't get the chance to DETOX , this was much needed therapy for all of them . Very Healthy !!!

[@CoolTy23]

Mal & Rory are disgruntled employees 😂

[@baghelbhagtana]

@Boy George both mal and rory have equity in the company. they're not employees

[@GoldenBoyDims]

@Boy George lmao yeah Ak foreshadowed this shit for so long

[@Lakershowtime]

Joe really said that he’d doesn’t respect his friends. This guy wonders why the fans call him a narcissist and why his relationship fail continuously. He also told Rory to stay at home but then accuses him of giving up on the podcast and sabotage him. He doesn’t understand what the word accountability means. Joe needs to realize that he’s the common denominator amongst all these failed relationships.

[@KC-nh6be]

That's not what he said. He said no one is "owed" respect but he chooses to do so

[@Laura-fv1oe1]

How he tried to make the argument that respect isn't owed amongst friends, and then turns around and accuses them of "abandoning the show." I love Joe but he is truly unbearable. When Mal said Joe told him the pod is none of his business and Joe didn't bat an eye was very telling. He doesn't respect them at all, but anything less that blind allegiance he takes personally. He absolutely is a narcissist.

[@michael43567]

@@KC-nh6be everyone is owed respect, ESPECIALLY you're friends & family.

[@michael43567]

And It's crazy that he's 40 but still hasn't realized this

[@you-in-yourfeelings7166]

You said everything i was thinking. The sad part is we knew before hearing them discuss the incident that it was Joe who f'd it up. The comments on the first 2 episodes with Ice, and Ish was majority of fans saying Joe did/said something stupid. Its his track record. He NEVER takes accountability when he screws stuff up. All he does is make excuses, or try to convince us its not him. I love the POD, but Joe has to come back down to earth. He has let fame and money go to his head. Why would you risk ppl who genuinely got your back?

[@ironman54724]

Joe is the master of 2 things...verbal jujitsu and saying a lot about absolutely nothing.

[@nicholasjohnson8617]

“You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain” - Harvey Dent from The Dark Knight Joe fought so long against the industry and became that right in front of us during this segment. I love this podcast but we’re all watching these shows differently from now on. With or without Ish and Ice. This was sad to watch. “Outstanding” can’t fix this.

[@devine_noise]

I was thinking this same thing.

[@nicholasjohnson8617]

@@devine_noise word. Nobody, with the exception of MAYBE Parks, came out of this looking good.

[@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz736]

@@nicholasjohnson8617 parks lookin like a jellyfish to me after this

[@chustlerm]

Parks said people need to get paid and was talking to both sides. What more could he do.

[@Road2Serfdom]

Joe becoming the corporate villain he "fought" against for years is really not as deep as it seems. No different than teenagers rebelling against their oppressive parents only to become the same as their parents as they get older and have kids of their own too. Or an employee that thinks he's going to be the cool boss once he becomes one and then gets smacked with the reality that being a business owner or boss has real responsibilities and shit that employees don't know about. Previously Joe was an employee. Now he's realizing that being a boss is different and not as evil as he thought. It happens when you level up.

[@nicolehernandez11]

Mal loyalty gone. This just a check now. I ain’t madd about that.

[@Arthur-rf6rz]

Then they won’t last too many episodes like that before they implode again

[@72vince27]

I am, 30 people should starve their kids so that Rory and Mall can stay in their feelings? Everybody in the comments definitely from the hood only thinking with y'all hearts and loyalty.

[@damian999x7]

@@72vince27 they forget that part

[@72vince27]

@@damian999x7 AK actually spoke the truth about these guys. Mall slept in Joe crib and Rory used to be a dusty college grad looking for a job. Joe set them up nicely, now look at them.

[@folkscrazyouthere3076]

@@72vince27 thank you bro I just wrote a long ass comment saying some of the same stuff.

[@tomrob8342]

This episode is like trying it again after breaking up with a Ex. Should of just moved on as it will never be the same.

[@beyoutifullyunique03]

💯

[@joshxblair]

yup

[@muhammedalli19]

Was you and your girl making millions together? No. Than its not the same.

[@deneshbm5656]

@@muhammedalli19 those 2 bums make like 27-30k a year. Joe pays them monthly salary.

[@damarimoland1613]

@@deneshbm5656 nahhhh no way is that a fact 😳

[@starrlife]

After watching this and their podcast on the situation, it sounds like they left the Joe Budden podcast for the same reason Joe Budden left Complex.. & just like Complex didn't realize how much of a key component Joe was to Everyday Struggle, it doesn't seem like he realizes how much of a key component Rory & Mal are to the Joe Budden Podcast.

[@albanian_anisa]

Nicely said

[@joem9124]

Rory and Mal are bums

[@cnsmooth]

Facts

[@MsSteward25]

My mouth literally dropped when Mal said "Joe you told me this podcast aint my business " u can tell he aint wanna air that out

[@user-gd7ed1pc7h]

nigga I put the sponge down and said fuck the dishes. the water was too loud over this shit right here.

[@solitary2]

william looool

[@seandafny]

@@user-gd7ed1pc7h lhhhhhh

[@NikkoKnight703]

@@user-gd7ed1pc7h lmao

[@dinikm1809]

@william u a fool 😂😂

[@lionellogginll]

Money don't change people. Money makes you exactly who u are!!

[@FreeBandz658]

Yep Joe just got tired of being the little man, his rap career labels never prioritised him over other artists, complex profited off what he built and didn’t want to pay him more. He preached about how sick the industry is and how Spotify did them dirty but the more money he got he turned into the industry people and treated his friends exactly how industries treated him.

[@taylabeauty]

Or it changes the people around you

[@mathews5276]

@@FreeBandz658 You clearly only been around Joey for a few years. You’re stupid for saying this, joe gave them a table and brought them the fucken food when they had nothing. You are lost.

[@rshak663]

Facts.

[@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo]

@@mathews5276 So because someone did a kind act for you, you cant reevaluate a contract? Get real

[@jayme130]

Rory looking stressed af 😂

[@JB-kv8yt]

the stooge is back

[@blahblahblah9267]

if dealing with joe was my main source of income I'd have stress in my eyes too

[@karlsylvain]

@@blahblahblah9267 go listen to charla if you hate joe so much.

[@ozzyozbourne2088]

@@karlsylvain Joe is great to listen to because he’s entertaining, terrible terrible friend tho

[@Lilp181]

lil ak buried him

[@A.Shawnee]

I come back to this pod for genuine entertainment purposes. You learn a lot from the moves of others. Now both parties are thriving individually. It was the best of times it was the worst of times.

[@bmc5180]

Agreed. I still can't help but look at Joe a little bit sideways though. Any man who thinks he doesn't owe his friends respect won't have many good ones when push comes to shove.

[@ifrr8337]

@@bmc5180 Agreed. Joe has Ice & Ish on his “team” now but admittedly, Joe & Ish didn’t speak for years over something that was big enough. I’ve been riding with the JBP from the beginning but Joe can be Joe and as viewers/supporters on the outside… we can see how difficult he can be at times. I watch them separately now…

[@Khutch419]

Mal said "Respect" more than Iverson said "practice".. 😂😂😂 ... "we talking bout respect, not money... respect"

[@CodeRed1991]

Anyone who says it's about respect and not money are always lying. Turns out these two employees was trying to audit Joe books for years.

[@MaliKali-po9su]

@@CodeRed1991 to be fair that was rory

[@ab-xf3mh]

@@CodeRed1991 Rory just need to turn up to work on time and shut his mouth 😂. Mal making it seem like respect but it’s the money!

[@jhonilocran6077]

Omg yes

[@chrisobrien4809]

@@ab-xf3mh 00

[@yocampout]

My friends do not "owe" me respect BUT if my friends don't respect me then we probably shouldn't be friends and definitely shouldn't be business partners.

[@Maine_87]

That's all he was trying to say. He didn't like the "owe" word.

[@scrawled_inblack9882]

But you do owe friends respect. Even if you don't like how your friend is moving you don't immediately start moving like its beef or you never fucked with them anyway. Its a certain way of moving and Joe just don't understand that. He's always had this problem tho

[@hawafiia]

30 mins of “friends” saying why they feel disrespected. Joe: “So what?!?!”

[@Del_116]

They work for him

[@hawafiia]

@@Del_116 if he was smart he would end their employment. this episode proves they all delusional. especially mal. he literally has always added the least to the show. and rory been using jo for a come up since he met him.

[@WhoCares3001]

@@Del_116 what does that have to do with anything?

[@WhoCares3001]

We see all the years of therapy and working on himself still has 40 year old Joe emotionally stunted. Talking to life long friend who you lived with for over a decade and saying "you're supposed to ride with me" and in the same breath "so what!?

[@freddywilson]

@@Del_116 no they don't they started the podcast together

[@rickmorty5745]

haven't listened to this pod in 2 yrs. i'm just back for the drama

[@ghazire1889]

Exactly

[@Chantalan]

No need to pretend she got a little bit of drama with her friends.

[@ms.michele357]

Fans go away sometimes they come back.

[@MattDrawsYou92]

Do you owe your friends respect? "No." 😂😂😂🤣

[@muhammedalli19]

Where did he say that? Where is the time stamp?

[@TheArcanumJinx]

@@muhammedalli19 36:00

[@amyliataylor]

Bruh 😂😂 Joe is something else

[@jmartradio]

The pod cast wouldn’t have these issues if Joe would've just been honest and told Rory & Mal they’re his employees, not his coworkers.

[@richiestu8223]

That's not what the contract says though... otherwise only Joe signs it.. just how he sees it.

[@1Devante]

@@richiestu8223 we don’t know what the contact saids tho, I’m sure Joe owns most of the podcast & had a bigger take home pay then then both. Let’s be real Joe name brought us here to watch to watch the podcast not Mal & Rory

[@kohhor]

HES THERE BOSS. And there mad about that

[@richiestu8223]

@@kohhor you're either 13 or have no comprehension skills

[@randycollins4887]

Joe started this...they are bianco workers

[@Casanova966]

Joe was basically Franklin from Snowfall when telling Leon "I built this shit, brick by brick" in the car.

[@colewrld901]

Which is dumb on his part cause he's built nothing by himself in his career. He's always had people contribute

[@ej4087]

😂😂😂😂

[@darchejackson9478]

This got me screaming but no fr😭😭😭😭

[@colewrld901]

@Mr Man everything u just named was assisted and co built by other people. Even Joe's rap career. What beats did joe make? Joe had his crew and OGs pushing his tapes and CDs on the streets for years till he got a buzz

[@socialarchitect1247]

😂😂😂 Its well documented though that he did

[@tomgervasi4653]

Joe should of just showed them the accounting and kept it moving 😄👍

[@shiohbandecker3643]

You know why he couldn’t. He was using the company’s accountant to do his personal accounting and billing it to the company.

[@susux7332]

@@shiohbandecker3643 He was definitely doing something wrong with it.

[@andreabrown631]

He could not show them accounting because he stole the 400,000

[@fixitfelix718]

All facts..joe cries about def jam abusive accounting n then ...does it to his partner's

[@Kappatalism]

@@fixitfelix718 narcissists never want done to them what they do to other, they feel like they’re above people for whatever reasons.

[@DJSkandalous]

I don't know whose right or whose wrong. But if Joe thinks these dudes are replaceable and he can play musical chairs, then just let Mal and Rory go start their own podcast. Why threaten them with a lawsuit if they do their own thing before a year is up? You fired them! Seems like Joe is afraid he will lose some of the audience. But I do agree that Joe's name is what boosted the podcast at the beginning. But it's the chemistry of the 3 that made it grow to the level it is.

[@quenteriousalford2420]

Because it's just business

[@ayana.audible]

Facts.

[@rickybobby3402]

Been saying this. When i first started watching, it wasn't primarily because of Joe. He's the voice of the podcast but Mal and Rory played a part

[@thekillakid99]

Id never listen to a rory mal podcast remember who this thing is named after... who honestly knew them two b4 this

[@Brandon-nz7pd]

@@thekillakid99 exactly. if each of these 3 make their own podcast, who you following?

[@Ainsy2006]

Sometimes Mal comes off a little naive and immature, sometimes Joe comes off a little egotistical and narcissistic and Rory comes off a bit angry at Joe for something

[@stanleymangumjr]

Facts

[@theconsciousobserver6829]

If Joe wanted Rory out, Mal should've followed suit. Rory may come in there and shoot up the whole studio

[@Lhoyte1]

Rory always seems tight. I wish he was off the podcast tbh

[@megmur1766]

@@theconsciousobserver6829 lmao tf kind of reasoning is that. For one thing it's parks house and Joes the one battling depression and addiction. He's just as likely to shoot up the place as Rory if that's where you're going.

[@vasiliyscombatsportsworld]

Mal seemed to be the only logical one here tho

[@Jayblac1615]

Limme tell y'all what really happened. Mal took time off to prepare and get ready for Ultimate Madness 3 on URL. Now that Mal lost to Swamp in the first round........he got time for the Podcast again.

[@agendaxpushers1322]

You be in beasley funhouse

[@mbealhighjump]

Shake my hand 👋🏿

[@aaroncherry7637]

Yo don’t do Jerry Wess like that😂

[@CliffLegit]

Don Demarco

[@PopOutPaulie]

@@agendaxpushers1322 Not the funhouse🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@NaturalJournee]

So why call someone a friend if they do not owe you respect? Someone owing you something does not equate to entitlement. It’s an exchange, I respect you you respect me. Entitlement is I give nothing and ask for something.

[@aob1989]

Joe taking out his feelings on the “so what” comment from Hov, on Rory and Mal is just disappointing. Did they laugh? Yea, but he should’ve said something to them later instead of waiting till now to use that. Who knows how long he been sitting on that

[@smokage8997]

Or maybe tell hov why it did matter to HIM. Thats not mal and rory issue 💯

[@Youknow6969able]

The so what part didnt even make sense . Joe is literally nothing to hov (when he took those beats)... but he n mal r close friends... what an awk comparison thT he brought up, kinda telling where his mind set is

[@jaseg9853]

Joe just used that as an excuse to negate from how hes behaved in this blow up. Textbook narcissist move. 1. Jay z aint a friend or owes you anything 2.if you truly felt a way at them laughing... explain why that moment was so important to you after that exchange happened. You dont sit on something that happened that you didnt like to then use it as a catalyst for your actions years later. Thats corny. 3. There's no scenario in the world where the respect level with a stranger in the street and a friend should be the same. As friends you owe it to each other to maintain the respect level between each other IF you deem them a friend and they have earned that from the years of the Friendship. The biggest takeaway from all this Joe doesn't view Rory and Mal as equals or partners.. so its never gonna be quite the same again. Rory and Mal need to part ways from the business side and at least try and mend there personal friendship.

[@blahblahblah9267]

Joe is soft af taking his Jayz business ptsd on his friends who helped build his brand back. Dude was a flopped rapper bum before his podcast got some real traction and landed his complex gig.

[@aob1989]

I agree with all of y’all! The line about not owing your friends respect bothers me as well, how you not gonna feel a sense of obligation to respect your friends. Joe just a hurt dude. Wish him the best tho

[@sinamen516]

Ima keep saying it, Joe treats them how Salt and Pepa treated Spinderella! If yall think the same thing wouldn't happen to Ish and Ice after some time too, you are sadly mistaken.

[@allthewayupnorth_8155]

Horrible comparison. Spin was actually an independent contractor. She never signed a record deal, she was literally being paid by Salt and Pep. She also was not their first DJ. Mal, Joe, and Rory literally started this together. They all signed paperwork together when it came to the show. Joe being head of Patreon is separate for him, had nothing to do with JBP.

[@Carolina22Blue]

@simamen516 Preach👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@officialnoquestion]

@@allthewayupnorth_8155 technically Rory, Joe, and the spanish chick started this. And look what happened to her.

[@TruthfullySpeaking500]

It’s not about that. Mal and Rory have officially been shown their roles on not only the show, but in Joe Biden’s life as well. They’re workers. Typical role players. Replaceable ones as well.

[@dominicthelordkabinga]

@@officialnoquestion Spanish chick

[@Moorsho]

This is the reason why I’ve never went to restaurants with Co-workers after work.I clock in and clock out.

[@mayyhaps]

I wouldn't be able to do this lol

[@TheGamingHarbinger]

You are a smart man. Can’t say the same for myself. 😂

[@damarimoland1613]

Facts I did it a couple times and it was awkward

[@jakestroll6518]

That's dumb. Someone like Mal is a valuable friend to have in your corner at work. Just sift out the Joe's who ride only for self

[@getmoneychill6462]

Some co workers are cool

[@ASBvisual]

Parks isn’t trust worthy his a kind voice for anyone who needs it.. smh!

[@Wyatt_The_Wise]

Joe's pretty wild, he said "I don't owe my friends respect" but then gets mad when Mal & Rory laugh at shit that happened years ago, then on top of that Joe said on earlier podcast episode that everyone is going to their respective corners and now he's trying to act like they just walked away

[@SpeakHerMusic]

You completely misunderstood the situation because you're looking at the order in which they were said and not the order in which they happened lmao. When you actually look at the order it happened you see all joe did was keep the same energy now everyone acting like he starting it

[@muhammedalli19]

Word, he never said he doesn't owe his friend respect but everybody is running with that.

[@richiestu8223]

@@muhammedalli19 he said that exactly... he point blank said no..

[@ratchettking5925]

Talking to Joe is like arguing with yo girl nd she never wants to b wrong even tho u bring up all the bullshit she said nd she tries to act like I didn't say it or if it was said to me It don't bother me Joe is a Ho3 at heart

[@officialnoquestion]

@@ratchettking5925 truth

[@Awsme_J]

Everytime Rory laughs he’s crying inside

[@challzbrown]

This is underrated 😀😀😀

[@brian1011234]

😂

[@GoldenBoyDims]

Ruuury runts

[@sinan3845]

He is embarrassed and pissed

[@teechauntv5291]

😂😂😂

[@ericqualley6764]

I grew up with friends who had Mal mentality, and “friends” who had Joes mentality... needless to say at 40 years old only the Mals are still around as crew

[@raheemharris26]

I bet none of y'all ever seen a million

[@ericqualley6764]

@@raheemharris26 don’t matter. Everybody that’s still around if doing just fine. Better that way than for one or 2 of us to be millionaires

[@ericqualley6764]

@@raheemharris26 none of us put hands on women either since I see where you goin with this

[@Subgenrelol]

Truth!

[@SouthBayLA1310]

You don't even know these ppl, this KZbin bro

[@lizonia100]

One thing I can see Mal is a real stand up guy !! You can see the hurt in his eyes !!

[@mase747]

A week ago I felt like this shit wasn’t gone end well. Didn’t even take a week. Joe never fails at a meltdown

[@TheReelRapNerd]

What rory said is a fact. Men gotta tlk more about real feelings instead of letting it slide into dangerous territory and blowing up.

[@jayburnham3994]

Blowing would of been Joe smashing rory in the face with a laptop after telling Joe to meet his hands for a month on live air.

[@Arthur-rf6rz]

Crazy how we thought the problem was just Rory and Joe but slowly realize the whole time Mal and Joe had the deeper issues

[@wrathb0y]

Yeah but I understand where Joe is coming from being that they go way back and have known each other a lot longer. Joe should realize as real as Mal thinks he is having rory back cause Joe was wrong, To some people being real is a friend having your back weather you are right or wrong and that is probably what Joe thinks.

[@megmur1766]

@@wrathb0y Bc Joe classes his ego above his growth. He doesn't want to grow he wants to be validated

[@xizor1d]

Joe and Mal had beef for a minute. But Joe takes all his Mal frustration out on Rory. Mal be treating the podcast like some shit he do a few days a week. Joe is sick of Mal's attitude about it. But Joe has been so anti industry for so long that he don't know how to tell Mal to quit bullshiten and take the shit seriously. And Rory catch all the strays from Joe not dealing with Mal's fuckery.

[@megmur1766]

@@xizor1d another reason Joe is a bad boss. If you the boss you have the conversations and hold your emotion especially if it's essential to the success of the business. Joe too emotional and tries to disguise it as "professionalism"

[@xizor1d]

@@megmur1766 I'm not going to call Joe a bad boss. I don't think he has enough experience yet to call it. I also don't agree that that the issue is slowly and emotional one. I think the issue emotions stem and frustration stem from having a philosophy that contradicts and is in conflict with the responsibility that he has. Joe wants to be a boss that doesn't act like a standard industry boss. Joe wants to have a business that doesn't have the standard industry rigors. Joe wants to have friends that he dose business with, without defining the parameters of the business. All those contradictions are causing the conflict which brings about the emotions. Eventually, really soon Joe is going to have to come up with a way to handle these contradictions. Mal is going to actively fight against any displine the shows going to need to continue to reach a new level of success, as he dose now. There is no way a human can't have emotions in that situation. It's also a part of the growing pain that Joe is going to have to go through to continue in his life's work.

[@4gxryhcstjiijv]

Had to come back to this…I been rocking with joe for years but joe has always said he hurts people who love him…his history with friends and girlfriends shows this. Lot of pain he comes from, hope mouse he finds peace

[@eobardthawne7126]

Joe was salty as shit when Mal told us what he said about the pod not being his business.

[@jaytayGO]

Lol it ain't tho. Some things shouldn't be if you not the boss

[@kaaiwilliams3629]

And those niggas just not the boss . Boss niggas never leave their duties because their feelings hurt : that’s how businesses crumble .

[@eunoia.2560]

@@kaaiwilliams3629 why are you using the word "niggas" you don't look blk to me.

[@RichardGrayson14]

@@eunoia.2560 He clearly is lmfao

[@kadarvimana.private]

I'm weak lmaooo someone peeped

[@UVERlupend]

I appreciate how they're respecting each other's perspectives at least.

[@treybear8174]

Idk if I got that

[@eulogist8120]

I appreciate your sarcasm

[@Deezzznutttzzzx]

This ain’t gonna work out

[@MrMoose365]

@@eulogist8120 Lol

[@rpierrelou]

This is why you cannot mix business and friendship

[@bigtone7913]

Best comment of the day

[@pryncessdi9358]

But Rory does it with his friends with DP. And they make it work because they respect each other

[@Asimoori]

@@pryncessdi9358 It can go right but it can also go very wrong like you see here.

[@joedawg713]

It can be fine. That's overblown.

[@ig3104]

Joe Budden face says it all for me. He snaked his boys. He been chasing the check since Pump it Up & it finally came

[@andrewjames3579]

Pump it up 😂

[@gregoryldismukes]

How niggas in Joe pocket who he's trying put on. They was suppose use tye platform to go get the bag. This the thing Jay-Z did, Jay didnt want niggas in his pockets. Shit Joe brung them niggas M's.

[@mvjorglo8581]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@vinniewheeler5441]

💯% I REALLY KNEW JOE WAS A CLOUT CHASER. I KNEW IT AFTER HE TOOK HIS SHOT AT 50. Lolol THE DUDE IS A STRAIGHT UP PAIR OF CLOWN SHOES!!!!!

[@andrewlost1404]

😂😂😂👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯💯💯💯💯

[@Beezy844]

Honestly don’t know how they ,specifically Mal, move on from this and pod like normal. That friendship ain’t gonna ever be like it once was. It’s not genuine anymore.

[@richardtaylor5607]

Mal fully lost respect for Joe, their energy will never be the same

[@emmanuelmoses7249]

Then why is he on his podcast if he doesn't respect him

[@rmanS2C]

@@emmanuelmoses7249 money.

[@emmanuelmoses7249]

@@rmanS2C Maybe. Although they did swear that they didn't care about money

[@Hfgv281]

@@emmanuelmoses7249 they have codependent relationship.

[@PharaohChin]

Rory looks like he visited every Irish Pub from Jersey to Boston.

[@nadine8764]

😂😂😂

[@laneesha1000]

MAL you too LOYAL💯people don’t THINK like that nowadays😩it’s EVERYMAN for they selves‼️

[@motif5775]

+laneesha1000 facts, unfortunately 💯

[@Subgenrelol]

I know a lot of us clown on Mal sometimes, but he gets the absolute utmost respect for handling the situation how he did, and riding with his friend when Joe was wylin. Parks looks a liiiiittle funny but whatever.

[@tds_fiji2981]

No, He sighned a contrac then got in his feelings over the same contract he signed. Business and life is tough get the fuck over it. He's wrong.

[@zandrrlife]

You never ran a business before then. They’re employees. Mal sounds crazy for saying the podcast should have stopped because people in their feelings. This a million dollar business. Livelihoods depend on. I don’t respect it. But then again. I’m a business owner.

[@fysean]

@@tds_fiji2981 the irony cause joe the one who bitches about contracts.

[@BalanceOvOpposites]

Hell no, put your feelings away cuz the show must go on. He's acting like he's the artist and he's not. The wheels gotta keep spinning, they cant decide bec theyre important they can take time off when shit gets rough.

[@minxmade]

@Poppymoonshine well tf said

[@B.Piercesports]

Mal and rory don't know business obviously. You don't close the shop cause of a beef.

[@tuesdayschild8994]

Joe told Rory not to come to the Pod and Joe was rude to Mal. He should have apologised straight away and sorted it out. It's simple. He shouldn't have texted Rory don't come. All three should have sat down and admitted the pod sounds horrible something needs to change like they did in the end. That's what Mal wanted. Why couldn't they do that? Even if it ended up with Rory taking time off at least they would have had the start of some kind of solution.

[@sinamen516]

Joe is psychotic and was the one who initiated the "beef" then got mad when the guys didn't show 😂 Nothing to do with business and everything to do with ego, hence him bringing Mal laughing at him with Jay.

[@kyanalowe8256]

Thank you. Your the only one who get it. THE SHOW MUST GO ON. He said a lot of messed up stuff but just cause we friends don’t mean we can take 6 weeks off. Ppl gotta get paid it is BUSINESS. It’s just that simple

[@km.7416]

Mal ain’t laughing at the jokes. Mal is ME. I’m not with the funny sh*t.

[@GoldenBoyDims]

Mal got the personality of a washboard

[@TruthfullySpeaking500]

@@GoldenBoyDims Mal believes he’s too cool for niggaz and looks like the biggest bozo in the world right now for allowing another man to tell him what he should and shouldn’t know about his money and that he doesn’t deserve respect and is still sitting there.

[@km.7416]

@@TruthfullySpeaking500 No, Mal just isn’t with the sh*ts. He is far more concerned about his peace than beefing with his friends. People like that are always called “corny” because they aren’t MESSY. We all have to grow up at some point. I am team Mal on this one.

[@VeryRellDressed]

I might look into details too much but you can tell Joe's level of respect for rory by how he addresses dusse-paloza he brushes it off and downs it knowing rory is his "friend" and it means as much to rory as the podcast means to joe

[@vshojoiscringeasf.gooutand997]

Mal & Rory: "We're friends with the boss so we must be bosses too! You must respect us!" Joe: "That's not how this work fam"

[@landonmartin1433]

I don’t think they said that they need to be the bosses lol, respecting some one as a human should come before the business.

[@FreeBandz658]

The pod never started as a boss-employee thing. It was friends building this together just because they started getting major deals and Joes name was plastered on doesn’t mean he can now talk to them like they’re his workers.

[@venosaveillard4632]

Mal- I'll go broke for respect joe. Joe- This my life work.

[@MJoe-fb9ps]

They gotta change them pictures behind them...those messages on those paintings have been promoting energy that has helped brought them to this point.

[@Carlosgarciaa793]

When I seen the art work I asked myself why? Never know maybe that's why Joe got to where he got. Thst devil worship gets spoken bout a lot in his industry

[@Rebelhiphop1]

Facts. Every time I would watch i would wonder why those specific pictures and messages

[@SerpentineWisdom]

You know what's crazy? The first time I saw it...I intuitively thought that but didn't really comment on it. And everytime I saw it I thought that. That's crazy you say that...I completely agree that those images and writings are helping them adopt a certain energy.

[@gregdodson6169]

so what kind of energy does a picture of say Christ bring that so called "holy men" stand in front of but behind the scenes they're sexually abusing children or through these ultra-rich religious institutions are helping to sponsor war atrocities that kill poor oppressed people across the globe throughout history? Guess that moralist or so called righteous "god" iconography/energy didn't work on them. This "image/energy" talk just deflects blame off the individual or institutions that are truly the ones at fault for their own decisions/actions.

[@SerpentineWisdom]

@@gregdodson6169 Strawman fallacy.

[@dylanstack8710]

It's crazy how relevant the background art is on the last real episode.

[@nike9009]

Just tried to rewatch it and couldn’t even finish it. Rory seem cool but Mal is checked out. It’s the first ep back so let’s see how they mesh from now on

[@dlapikin]

Me too, it is painful to watch. I hope that joe has someone in his life who can get through to him because he is going to be a sad lonely man.

[@natemclarke]

@@dlapikin Word

[@CPTZK11]

@@dlapikin Not everybody friendly. He rich, old and grumpy. That's just his character

[@bluelove9731]

Mal is too emotional I mean, I know everyone is wired differently. For instance when a girl break up with a dude, you done kill her because you're hurt but some weirdos do. Don't mean it's Correct cause they do it. Mal thinks because hey feel this way or that way that's the norm. And he don't know how to learn and move on. I'm happy the way I am. We can cuss each other out and the next day can talk and laugh with you. But if you don't wanna talk I'll leave you alone gladly and lose no sleep.

[@gsignaturemessage]

"You can't stop production.." he used the Martin example but Fresh Prince moved on changing Aunt Viv. Wife and Kids moved on with recasting the daughter. Hell Family Matters ignored a whole child. That definitely happens 🤣

[@nashcan6350]

exactly 🤣🤣 🤣🤣

[@timbradford1673]

Man you right I n family matter they ignored a whole child like she never existed

[@lovelizaashe4300]

None of his examples were accurate, every single example he gave kept shooting and producing shows.

[@gokurakuclerk]

Technically he wasn’t wrong. The shows mentioned didn’t need to go on hiatus because their seasons ended giving them time to recast so it’s not like they just suddenly replaced the character

[@lovelizaashe4300]

@@gokurakuclerk Uhm, all those shows aired on schedule.

[@Kingkeezey]

Joe really tried to throw that Jay-z angle in the mix

[@TheBondsbeyondtime]

I feel like it’s an important angle I just don’t fully understand it

[@solitary2]

Axelcorp No, the point he was trying to make was bullshit. Jay Z telling Joe “so what?” to his problems was something he wrote down in his notebook for years

[@Kingkeezey]

@@TheBondsbeyondtime nah if it was important he would’ve kept pushing it... notice he didn’t bring it back up when they shot it down

[@dopebrother1042]

Time stamp

[@NevthaChefGaming]

That Jay z angle is good point. Joes been in his feelings and when his friends are aware of it and jayz says so what and they laugh.. They pretty much leave him out to dry in a moment hes been anticipating for years. Might as well be the nigga to run when u and your mans about to get into a nasty fight. Joes idea is if that what time we on then so what if ur in ur feelings .

[@ohgeez4354]

mal - it aint about the money , we were gonna give our bonuses to the crew ... mal - SHOW ME THE ACCOUNTING. 🤷🤷🤷

[@chrisblack9851]

Yeah their friendship is over, I think they're only on here to air out some issues for the fans, but I don't think this is gonna last with all 3 of them

[@wuspatterwukd9104]

Time for joe to move on to his next podcast/show

[@LouieV6]

None of us know what really goes on behind the scenes, so how is their friendship over exactly? These are just grown men airing out their differences so that they can work on repairing the relationship one day at a time. Grown men shit.

[@mikeyg661]

I feel like Joe doesn’t listen to really hear what they are saying , he’s just waiting for his turn to speak so he can tell them why they are wrong. That’s cringe af 🤦🏽‍♂️ of course you owe a certain level of respect to your friends , if you call someone your friend that’s no small title , Joe must use the term “friend” really lightly.

[@Beamken]

Based on the way I see Joe treat Rory it’s one of those “friendships” where they just keep you around as a laughing stock, Joe goes out of his way to clown Rory at times

[@jray1526]

You don’t owe friends shit, you give respect.

[@mikeyg661]

@@jray1526 you choose who you give your respect to , respect is earned , therefor it is owed to the ones who deserve it.

[@talishabailey]

Yess i see that...

[@RampageYI]

You don’t owe anybody anything.

[@thephotogod257]

Ok yeah, Mal done. Sometimes some relationships are severed beyond repair. You can forgive but you can never forget - and that still affects the relationship. Mal there based on his contractual obligations now.

[@Nesly00]

Crazy because this has always been joe. I hope, they some day reconcile even if the originals never return. Blessings to all three of them

[@gbautista100]

"new ice and ish mmmm" already miss that drop 😂😂

[@MosMoney187]

You can honestly tell That Joe has way more respect for Ice and Ish.

[@SleepCycle1]

Yeah cause he ain’t got nobody else if he pushes them away too

[@revanerratik2089]

WE ALL DO !

[@P0k3D0nd3M4cG]

@@SleepCycle1 also, I think it's a largely an age thing. It also seems like they have waaaay more history. Rory is definitely seen as the annoying little brother and Mal is Mr "Too Cool"

[@LesRed]

He treated them with the utmost respect as grown men should be treated. I think they would never put up with any bs. I wish they stayed✌🏾🇬🇧

[@KC-nh6be]

They're way more mature and secure with themselves. Mal and Rory try too hard.

[@BeingSpecialNYCAdvocate]

What is "owed" between friends is loyalty...

[@theofficialkingpvge6854]

Nothing is owed everything is earned

[@saulmorel4940]

So literally building something from the ground with someone doesn't qualify as "earned" to you?

[@theofficialkingpvge6854]

@@saulmorel4940 it's different levels of respect, he might respect his business mind but not his actions. He might respect things about him but not him perhaps. Idk I can't say from he is thinking or their personal relationship but I completely understand both sides

[@charcoalcowboy]

@@saulmorel4940 without Joe Budden there is no damn podcast so niggas need to stop.

[@sorcelord65]

I ain’t eva been loyal to somebody I didn’t respect

[@Hannibal54689]

Joe likes to bully people he knows he can bully. Salute to Mal for checking his ass and speaking facts.

[@JM-qn3tf]

Mal spoke nothing but feels

[@sheeeeeeesh54]

Mal has every right to take that mic off of him and politely walk out.”Thank you Joe for the time you have shared with me.”

[@blacktowken1232]

Why?

[@Hfgv281]

Did be do that?

[@mokenfriendz7677]

Mics not on him. But I hear ya but you can't blame Joe. It's his show

[@7lovelife77]

I had to watch it again, listen man, mal saying it’s respect? Come on family, you wait 6 years to ask about a contract? That’s not respecting yourself, and Rory looking and acting like a submissive wife now. They scared of that payroll to stop. I’m disappointed in the two

[@raheemharris26]

Bet he won't walk out though.

[@kofiahiadzro661]

Ish and Ice feel like the honeymoon phase cause it’s fresh. If they stayed, it would only take a couple weeks or months before shit hits the fan cause of Joe

[@kieranarmstrongproductions4743]

THANK YOU

[@bandhere728]

But funny enough ish and ice would call Joe out on his bs and then really not show up.😅 They said yoo we enjoying this for now and we here to help out but we still got our own lives and jobs to do.

[@michael43567]

100%. Mal/Rory been going 5 yrs+ strong. You can't compare that to ish/ice 2 week hot streak.

[@patsvinylcorner]

idk because I don't think they would've signed a deal with Joe. this was definitely a favor

[@blahblahblah9267]

fr ice and ish should have their own show without joe

[@nicciwith2cees]

It really sounds like Mal no longer wants to be there.

[@pfunk1992]

LIES!!!!

[@SoGutta_31]

FR... They all sitting mad far from each other. The tension could be cut with a knife.

[@jayburnham3994]

He's like that every show tho

[@BLUEGUTTA]

Well then why come back? He could just stay home frfr lol 😂 I’d rather ish be in his place anyway lmaooo

[@BLUEGUTTA]

@Boy George ain’t nobody abt to watch that shit lmaooo

[@lu.is300]

Above all, can we appreciate why Joe even put this out? This whole podcast, SEEMS like conversations that are had behind closed doors, to keep structure of a business hidden. We’re all people, and in no way do I mean to offend, but if this can happen on a podcast, it can happen in businesses bigger than this. I’m glad to be able to see this from the viewpoint of a person who hasn’t started a business, you really appreciate the good and the bad of being your own boss.