Joe Budden Explain Why Things Got HEATED Between Him & Ish Arguing Over a Woman

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[@dparker6798]

Stay away from people who refuse to be held accountable for their actions…

[@nuggetfresh9641]

who Katt and Monique? 😅😅😅 just joking, dont want no smoke

[@Noog6284]

Absolutely

[@user-xm7xg5rc2r]

💯 exactly

[@glitchtv4279]

the person who is refusing to be held accountable is Ish. Ish misinterpreted the whole thing, then presented it to us like the girl specifically said Joe tried to hit. In reality nobody ever accused Joe of trying to fk only Ish. In this clip when they grill him on it we find out she never said that to him. He got the whole Joe was tryna hit off of the fact that they kissed, then at the end he even says no codes were violated. Yet we get comments like this. People think just because they convince the majority to be on their side that means they’re right. Often times the majority are wrong this one of those times. I’m glad Joe stood on his position and didn’t apologize for something that didn’t happen or apologize for Ish mind playing tricks on him

[@idarethetruthfromeverybody.]

Jo slimey fore this one.

[@DreLaylow]

Someone who can’t admit when they’re wrong is very dangerous

[@DeRussellMasina]

💯 🎯 Narcissist Joe

[@uoooogg2148]

parks suckin joe meat

[@Skywalker721]

Respectfully, this is exactly why a lot of women today are single & not deemed marriage material. Don’t shoot the messenger. 😅

[@hitthisloudgbeforeichangem5749]

Like every colonizer lol

[@capo4ever334]

@@hitthisloudgbeforeichangem5749come here boy let me colonize that azz

[@heavymentalmafia]

Joe Buddens ego is so outta control even when he dead wrong he think he right even when the evidence and consensus says otherwise

[@kjk607]

This word gets thrown around A LOT these days, but Joe it actually fits perfectly. He's a Narcissist.

[@ronnielister1023]

Joe problem is he thinks he is the smartest man in any room he walks in and that is why he never sees himself being wrong

[@RealParadox85]

He's a woman, that's why. Women never accountable.

[@savlosavage]

Not letting Ish talk is bananas ....

[@xbabu142x]

Joeseph Budden claiming with a straight face he got class and decorum is nasty work.

[@SankofaNYC]

It was a combination of Ish trying to hard to look like the calm good guy and not speaking up at all, not interrupt anyone at all, combined with him make long pauses, and also definitely him being interruptted often. Between all of that, some of it being his fault and some of it being theirs, you are right, Ish ends up saying very little here. Either way ultimately they resolve it in the end of the segement pretty much... good for them

[@savlosavage]

@SankofaNYC it's funny because I was really hoping he was going to offer something different as far as information but it was like ... nope ... he still salty

[@smugfrm4102]

What could he have said differently 😂😂 he already stated he didn’t want to talk about it again. Yall nxggas be on yall own universe

[@smugfrm4102]

@@savlosavage That’s in response to you bruh

[@VistaNiceGuy]

I’m still tryna understand why Joe just casually kissing randoms in the mouth like it’s a hug or sumn

[@Futurelawyer812]

Insane 😂😂

[@Mo13uckets]

Especially ones that was supposedly “for the streets”

[@MH-et4bo]

Called her a mutt which was disgusting

[@Caleb-sl5vn]

@@ToasterForLifeextremely powerful 😂😂😂

[@alpizzle2963]

Yuck

[@kingofcomments1917]

I hate when a dude that forgets the shit he says 97% of the time say “ I didn’t say that or I don’t remember that “ of course you don’t 😂

[@Doublegd3]

If Flip is the only one on your side and the world is on Ish side…you lost

[@papzonline5502]

Flip be D riding he knows his mans is wrong in this situation

[@user-uy8ji5qb7u]

Flip is alittle jealous of ish and I think a part of it is his fascination with Mel

[@_badmanmo]

Facts 😂.. love flip but his take on this just sounds like he’s tryna secure his job 😂

[@What5Poppin5lime]

You can tell flip never got women like that

[@jayjay-dz3is]

Facts smh

[@MrGoodGuyTv]

Joe FINALLY holds himself accountable @ 14:00

[@SuperRedWaffle]

😂😂😂

[@quemetro2857]

Lmao😂😂😂😂

[@jalilsharief1192]

You got me real good 😂😂😂

[@themofomayor]

Literally tried fo FF.... HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA

[@graysonred2641]

💀💀 you got me

[@mikemccausland6587]

He is literally the narcissistic boss who's mood for the day is based on how he woke up.

[@str8flyness23]

I could not be bothered with Joe!!! Ish you aren’t crazy!!!! You are absolutely right!!!

[@MegaBlackmamba23]

Shoutout to Rory and Mal this explains alot

[@mapitizat]

🤣🤣🤣☠️

[@azlstrhl]

Same gone happen to these lot sooner or later... Joe a ticking bomb of narcissism and we know this. I'm just here for the wreckage 😂

[@djonesthe21]

fax. and people will still try to find a way to say they were just trippin

[@robinelmungongo8766]

On Gawd 😂

[@ireckoppz1424]

You weak just like Rory and mal

[@JW-zc4sk]

This has absolutely nothing to do with the situation, but I always thought Ice looked like an Ish and Ish looks more like an Ice. 😂

[@IkeDezi]

😂😂😂

[@Simply1Vic]

I feel so tickled because I’ve always thought the exact same. 😂😂😂

[@robinelmungongo8766]

Bruh 😂 I thought I was the only one lmao

[@getmoe9]

😂😂😂 facts

[@niyyxx9185]

when i first started binging tryna figure out who was who, i thought the same😭

[@DJeezy007]

The original premise was he wouldn't even say hi to one of his boys exes.

[@dpitt258]

People forget that convo......now he talk to alot of they exes

[@Hizzoner21]

Team Ish all day. Been a Joe fan since '02/'03, but it stops after the music. Personality wise? I can see why he's made a ton of enemies.

[@Sincere-dd4jk]

I couldn't have said it better 💯

[@tishahay2641]

Ish reeks of light skinned privilege... And Joe is very ignorant!! Lol

[@fptheghost]

Son, I say this shit all the time… hurt me to find out he was a loser after years of really loving his music

[@kiewannagonsalves282]

BETTER BELIEVE IT….‼️‼️💄💋

[@dannysha6458]

@@fptheghost Joe knows how to make content and I watch his content regularly but I see people defend him like he isn’t a woman beater, manipulative, emotional, and a hater lol

[@sdestatus411]

This that shit Rory and Mal was against, he can’t be accountable.

[@deesee2051]

Nah they thought they were owners and not employees

[@Bsharp4444]

Or show the accounts!

[@ytrbro1041]

The point of the debate changed, the original point was Budden saying he does not mess around with women that his friends mess with. Ish said yes you do and here is an example then all hell broke loose 🤣

[@SolaceMcfly]

thank you cause i was mad lost

[@Kevin082088]

Flip is starting off strong with yes man of the year lol The ball glazing is crazy

[@sonofforever1]

😂😂😂😂

[@brandonf.8360]

With a friend like Joe... Nevermind 🤦🏿‍♂️🤣

[@IvryBlak]

Who needs enemies?

[@brandonf.8360]

​​@@IvryBlakwho needs anyone in that case?

[@robertjohnson6252]

Facts! Say THAT!....Or just.....😂

[@dannysha6458]

I like Joe, man knows how to make content, but when it comes to personal shit I always assume he’s in the wrong. He’s emotional and can never admit when he’s wrong.

[@clbrooks2007]

I only listened for the 1st 2min to see if Joe was FINALLY going to take even a small pinch of accountability... NOPE moved the goal post again... Ice caught it too, "intentionally" ... Small word but mighty when a narcissist inserts it when you're 9th and base. This is why it doesn't pay to have a conversation with a Narcissist. This is their arena, this is their sport. They can do this all day and not get exhausted because they feed off it. When the WHOLE WORLD sided with Ish and called Joe out for Gaslighting, Joe turns around and says the whole world lacks comprehension and calls Mel a parrot for stating the obvious... I imagine that the only reason these folks remain on the pod is because rent in NYC is expensive and no one wants to be unemployed, but believe you me, they all hate it there and are counting the days until they can find something else.

[@Eli-ss9gj]

Idk how the hell his cohosts do it. He seems exhausting and beyond frustrating to deal with… I feel that way just WATCHING him, imagine WORKING WITH him.

[@KENICKYTV]

1000 percent agree with every word .. seems its mostly woman who can agree to this point . I think because we deal with narcissists men our entire life and can identify them in an instant .. men sometime wanna get confused by the actions

[@MrJ1S]

Friendly tongue kissing is WILD 😂

[@gregoryjones7074]

You can tell Joe was lying because he kept interrupting Ish everytime Ish said a word. Then Joe kept saying I don't remember this I don't remember that...let it go Joe

[@JReece3000]

Bro said he has “class n decorum” while also admitting that the girl he was tongue kissing at the back of the bar was “from the gutter like Das EFX” this man is NUTS 😂😂😂😂

[@folabomiamoo]

Flip, there's no blind trust or loyalty. Brothers literally betray one another. You'll be a fool if you only believe your man and no one else.

[@mistabernz7455]

never seen a dude so proud that he out here tongue kissing randoms lol

[@azlstrhl]

Diddy is his boy... so that's nothing compared to what he most probably done did 😂

[@glitchtv4279]

How she random and the whole issue is she’s Ish “ex” they both know…

[@0331tate]

@@glitchtv4279a random is a term for a girl anybody can hit

[@superexclusive452]

@@glitchtv4279Joe tryna imply that she’s a random 😂

[@decundiwatkins4395]

To be clear he called her a sewer rat

[@TopBossOfficial]

The only reason I’m tired of this argument is cuz the goal posts was moved way too much, didn’t Joe say mad long ago that he wouldn’t interact w his friends old exes whatsoever… not specifically sleepin w them

[@BillyRayCoolAF]

He said all that and then denied Ish even introducing them. But, you gotta remember that Joe was heavy on drugs back then. So, of course his memory is far from crisp about it. The Mandela Effect in real time is happening to that man. Lol

[@TopBossOfficial]

@@BillyRayCoolAF yeah I see why ish be yelling and Joe got a convincing tone 😭

[@SmithMaignan]

Exactly what are we talking about. He said he wouldn’t do it than ish gave an example of him doing it. Who cares about the girl or a kiss. Smh

[@glitchtv4279]

@@SmithMaignan I hate y’all “exactly” mfs exactly what??! What you’re saying exactly to is exactly wrong lol the original statement was “I don’t fk behind my friends” in this clip he adds “on purpose” … the example Ish used doesn’t prove Joe wrong because he didn’t do anything sexual with ol girl. That’s the issue, ish doing that soft ass lightskin shit cuz he lost his girl.. As a man you shouldn’t question another man’s character unless you got that evidence to support what you’re saying. Don’t attack my character claiming I smashed some girl you was with when I didn’t. Ish threw this story down like he had a draw 4 to what Joe claimed but he didn’t he just a sucker for love. If you’re going to attack Joe’s claim that he doesn’t fk behind his friends then his example should include Joe actually fkn the girl.

[@tonymcclendon3128]

Joe is not as much of a friend to any of these guys as he makes out to be. Man has no real respect for his “friends” feeling on the situation. Just his

[@ariesLily]

From the episodes and clips I have seen, I have to agree.

[@lastonewon]

This whole conversation is embarassing, 40 year olds talking about kissing and having sexual relations with people they friends have already dealt with its a dead subject. The fact that it appears to be so triggering to both individuals after such a long time now in long term relationships is interesting

[@shesbaldbutiwould]

its not embarassing when it yields millions of dollars,

[@lastonewon]

@@shesbaldbutiwould I guarantee you this particular conversation didn't yield "millions of dollars" for a genuine conversation that yields millions of dollars watch club Shay Shay interview of kat Williams !! 😄

[@ossbeats8314]

ok so what if it is , now what?

[@lastonewon]

@@ossbeats8314 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@savagegamer2292]

You don't really understand the topic do you?

[@mrsjxsn]

I thought he said he doesn’t even say HI to ANYBODY his man’s use to work 🤔

[@kylebenbow431]

Idk why its so hard to say "I try not to holler at girls my dudes been with. That 1 time I did. It was uncalled for. My bad. I never go down that route again". Like nobody really cares fam. Ish doesn't care. He just cares you keep lying about it for no reason at all besides trying to get to this semantic war between if kissing someone is trying to have sex with them or not, which is just so absurd

[@DominicHolder-nn3um]

Literally the whole point 😂

[@KingDTB]

Joe thinks he too slick bro was 100% Wrong

[@zacharystallworth6373]

The point is not the girl. The point is that joe said something & did something else 🧐

[@Futurelawyer812]

Joe simply doesn’t understand integrity

[@dpitt258]

​@@Futurelawyer812at all

[@TyroneLDStyle]

Joe kissing random “street mutts” as he termed it is still the wildest takeaway from all this 😂

[@glitchtv4279]

How y’all taken away she’s a random when the whole issue is she isn’t a random

[@quaniereacts]

@@glitchtv4279the point is Joe tried to make her seem random but he kissed her 😂 obviously

[@glitchtv4279]

@@quaniereacts how did Joe try to make her seem random? He literally tried to make the opposite argument he said he met her through someone else. It’s like y’all think random means something else

[@quaniereacts]

@@glitchtv4279 he literally said street mutt random. He said she wasn’t shit. The point is why are you kissing a mutt?

[@drewstar8611]

The joke is, if Joe met said girl through someone else, he still went behind the friends back and tongued her down. So the same rules apply 😂😂

[@Revengesender]

Didn’t Joe called her a Mud Rat now he is casually kissing her 😂 yeah this man is crazy

[@deesee2051]

It’s not shocking if you know his history he’s a lame when it comes to women

[@dominiquecherisee]

The fact Joe can’t allow Ish to finish talking is crazy lol.

[@lowkeypopi]

Flip embarrassing bruh

[@violetseeiso8025]

Yoh Flip please

[@1hunnid544]

Joe low-key love when the conversation is based around him. This ain't podcasting. It's old ninjas sitting around having young adult conversations talking about beef within the squad with one female listening.

[@jayball1749]

Joe always forgetting things and having no convenient amnesia is a great defense in situations like this, but I could never fully trust someone like that. And I don’t think Ish and none of them do.

[@SortofFriendlySM]

I didn’t know Joe was a golden medal Gymnast

[@Oysterhorse]

All star dancer

[@azlstrhl]

He got 1st place 10 years running 🏅

[@matthewdar886285]

FLIPPING ALL OVER THE DAMN PLACE

[@mathewmcfool]

Make it make sense Mel 😂 0:19 EVERYBODY

[@catastrophecookies6066]

“Hitting those Devry words” 😂😂😂

[@str8flyness23]

So we tongue kiss ransoms in the mouth!!!! Crazy!!!!

[@latebloomer177]

It’s very popular in European culture. Joe used to hang with a lot of Italians and all kinds of chicks, so I am not surprised by this kind of stuff.

[@jona1han2k4]

@@latebloomer177f that all; if I’m tongue kissing a random chick at 2am. I have intent on piping

[@darnelldarden9429]

Imagine trying to hold a conversation about accounting with a person like this.

[@Somervision]

This math ain't mathing...she for the streets but you tonguing her down

[@joemadisonstudios]

Flip makes discussions difficult by taking sides of People and not studying with right or wrong and gives people an out.

[@user-gp6fq8hc4q]

"Where i come from" , the beginning of selfish conversations...... Classic 😮

[@jayg6222]

Why couldn’t they distract flip during this conversation so he didn’t have to ruin it 😂😂

[@kingtchalla2775]

thank u ice jus thank u bro n SALUTE bro much love n respect all the way from the west so southern cali to b exact

[@KENICKYTV]

This is abuse of a friendship .. Sad for ish … and anyone else affected 😢😂

[@wizkhalifa101]

Ish got his ass! 🤣🤣🤣

[@soar12]

Joe lying . He hit 😂

[@jjstaticxp5137]

Facts 😂😂

[@pay_attn]

definitely

[@latebloomer177]

1000% the conversation is always confusing and trash. Of course he did it

[@kgosithato4422]

I adamantly agree!

[@rxhuggs8653]

joe is sad but ultimately i gotta blame Ish for calling a person like this your friend. its one thing to make the mistake, its another thing to not admit you were wrong and also not apologize

[@michealbourguillon2114]

Easy to look over some things when you get money out of it but he stays in the “friendship” so I can’t blame joe for being who he is.

[@glitchtv4279]

How should Joes apology go???

[@billydakid601]

I mean they just got back cool since Ish said there was a moment they didn't talk for years.

[@Coast2CoastGoat]

4:36 joe must’ve said hold me accountable this episode🤣🤣🤣

[@HumbleKeto]

Ish knows, deep down, that Joe is not a solid brother and he seemed to have definitely learned so much more about his ‘friend’ during this podcast than ever before! Joe is a friend most solid men wouldn’t want to have.

[@kevthepoet]

Joe is really so narcissistic that he thinks EVERYbody ELSE is crazy lol

[@bryant4the328]

Joe knew to wear some glasses this day

[@Ezman07]

It’s mad corny that Ish can never get through a complete sentence without someone interjecting!!!!! Let him speak!!!!!

[@ariesLily]

We stand with Ish!

[@Dan-wc4yn]

Joe to smart to not see what EVERYONE else thinks. Cmon he either hate accountability or doing this for views

[@machumufreeman]

Still wrong Joe. Just admit it.

[@GiantBrooklynBuffalo]

Joe Budden is delusional and a goal post mover.😂

[@raiderjedi4160]

Flip and Parks need to never talk about women 😂😂😂 they ain’t like that 😂

[@user-ry5ht6qu3c]

Flip had no choice but to back Joe. Creeps

[@manuelfeliz4993]

literally 2 men that have shared alot of women between each other. their whole friendship lacks boundaries

[@MrClbrown33]

Intention has NOTHING to do with your actions. If you do something regardless of intention, you still did it. You cant justify it because it wasnt your intention

[@NayB13]

I don’t even think Flip agrees w Joe lol he stuck on the fact that it’s about a jump off 😂 he’s focused on the tiniest thing rather than the actual principle of it

[@jennaywilliams7664]

Kissing the jump off in the mouth 😂

[@PDaGreat]

Hey Joe, we’re still on Ish’s side after this

[@dojoworks7704]

I check back in on this podcast every now and then to see how far away it is from imploding

[@respectfullyquestioned]

Fellas ….. that’s a violation…

[@johnem17]

The violation was the manipulation and name calling throughout the argument coming from Joe

[@cheatingscoobydoo]

Joe 22 not admitting he’s wrong to his friends lmao

[@wordonthestreetpodcast5472]

Joe just the homie if u decide that yall gone be cool u cant bring him around or leave him around your shorty💯

[@londellcoleman6207]

I cut off my friend for this type shiii... haven't talked to him in over 30yrs .. Gregory Dowdell is his name... Joe is lying... trying to make ish look jealous... when he clearly broke that code...

[@shuflbeats]

Joe talkin uphold the bro code while trying to get with ish’s past chick. Joe a sucka.

[@wrecclessescobar6252]

Flip getting me mad now

[@Husha2263]

Dealing with ppl that pivot and move the goal post is exasperating to say the least

[@OmarScruggs]

Joe IS THE WORST type of friend. A friend you cant trust around your girl. Thats the worst type of friend a man can have

[@user-qx8ig5pn8r]

Joe is a disappointing human being at times. Nothing is more ridiculous than an adult who seldomly admits they're wrong

[@Bonuscheck]

LMFAOOOO Joe face when he said “YES!” Lmaoo was fucking comedy

[@kmelfrancis4999]

THIS IS RE UPLOADED EPISODE IS CRAZY.. IM I THE ONLY ONE THT NOTICED

[@my-merethoughts5742]

Does Flip ever give Joe 🥜's room to breathe? (Retorical question)

[@keyceandreas9254]

Joe lied, he said he wouldn't do something and Ish gave an example in which circumstances seemed to be he indeed did attempt to do said thing.

[@chblegendary165]

The chick they talking about is gonna pop out with an onlyfans to capitalize off this

[@BryanKalloo]

What's the original video they're referring to

[@mercnsiku15]

It was episode 695 around 1:45:00

[@BryanKalloo]

@@mercnsiku15 thanks dude

[@therebellion96]

This is like re-reading an argument thread on reddit only to realize the topic that sparked the argument wasn't that deep in the first place.

[@skeythay]

Why Joe just cant say "I shouldn't have kissed her in the first place, and none of this would have been an issue." That would dead it. Point is, he thinks it's cool or ok, to kiss even if he had no intentiom to hit.

[@bonsmasemo1738]

top tier narrative management by one jesephet buddenbrook....All American Amnesia *chef's kiss* I salute you sir

[@KINGDOMDAUGHTER]

Can we hear from the young lady herself, the convo is getting too murky for there is still no truth and accountability to the acts and deeds done.

[@tiffanylpleasant4181]

Everyone crazy .... Mel 👑💯👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@ideozublake8036]

lmao joe is hella passive aggressive

[@samblackwell8308]

I think Joe has a legitimate mental and physical inability to accept he’s wrong.

[@champlifenation2622]

Body language speaks volumes. Take the glasses off and look another man in the eye while you’re talking to him if you’re sincere

[@dj2raw370]

Joe trippin for going out of his way to not take accountability. It’s harder for him to do what he’s doing than for him to just admit it and move on.

[@NalaMahal]

The argument is hilarious 😂

[@CrwnRoyel]

Joe very fortunate that he is entertaining. Because if his success was left up to morals and ethics he’d be poor.

[@lorenzohaynes3886]

There's no reason a broad none of the homies dealing with should cause an argument between friends.

[@iTzReloadedLeaguexD]

Everytime Joe spoke it just seemed like he knew he was wrong but because they were so deep in the argument he just stood on not believing Ish because he already said it. I think Ish made way more sense and was correct.

[@ronupsomebands8805]

Why you kissing her anyway lmfaio

[@mauryabrown6949]

Joe don’t want to be wrong, what length would he go