Joel Klatt calls Josh Rosen a 'walking contradiction,' Baker Mayfield the next Drew Brees | THE HERD

Joining Colin Cowherd and Kristine Leahy in studio on The Herd, Joel Klatt reacts to a recent article on Josh Rosen, revealing several contradictions to what the former UCLA Bruin said which could further polarize him as he enters the pro football realm. Additionally, Klatt explains why he believes Baker Mayfield could be the next Drew Brees.
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Joel Klatt calls Josh Rosen a 'walking contradiction,' Baker Mayfield the next Drew Brees | THE HERD
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[@aaronb6669]

Sam Darnold High end : Silicon Valley Sam Darnold Low end: Starbucks Josh Rosen High end: Amazon Josh Rosen Low end: Divorce

[@KC1996LFC]

Aaron B under rated comment

[@JimmyMacram]

Perfect comment

[@FREE_WILL_DEFENDER]

Aaron B 10/10 lmao

[@seanlou6634]

Aaron B immm deadddd lmfaoooo

[@extrafreshhh]

Aaron B lol

[@PumpedPlaya]

Colin, is a walking a contradiction.

[@LonghornsLegend]

Pumped Playa **walking analogy

[@hbizzle8037]

Pumped Playa you mad bro

[@serpirt]

Yes

[@tumalditamadresita]

u mad bro

[@turkishdelight6032]

A walking "I don't do mock drafts"

[@adamgardiner6873]

Did that really say Sam Darnolds low end is Andrew Luck? Oh my God.

[@nmj530]

Adam Gardiner Colin thinks Darnold is already the best quarterback in the NFL.

[@adamgardiner6873]

nmj530 Ridiculous, and then he says that Baker Mayfield's ceiling is Case Keenum.

[@AyoJeezy]

Romain 40 touchdowns and 8 picks is way better which is what mayfield put up

[@adamgardiner6873]

Aisian ThreeQUISIANS Well I'm not sure that his numbers will be that good in the NFL, but he certainly has a higher ceiling than Case Keenum who despite a great year last year with an exceptional supporting cast is a marginal starter in my opinion.

[@beniansevuk6812]

Luck is a top 5 QB. How the f- is Darnold at the low end a top 5 QB in the NFL. I dont even know if his ceiling could be Andrew Luck.

[@jjg9624]

Klatt schooled Colin again.

[@joshuagenecobb051]

Jackson Giard funny to hear Klatt telling Colin & Skip Bayless about contradictions. They both do it regularly.

[@abstractheory1]

Jackson...You like the Pat's and LeBron? Front-run much? Oh, and I also love people that have a "second favorite" Football team. Covering all bases. Too funny.

[@abstractheory1]

cool story...what's your 5th favorite team?

[@Frederick0220]

Klatt pulverized Colin here. Luck is a top 5 QB in the NFL when he's healthy. Absurd saying that the WORST CASE SCENARIO for Darnold.

[@johnnysmith2463]

Am I the only one who feels like Klatt would be a way better host that Colin. At least when it comes to football. Klatt actually has reasons when he gives his opinion when Colin seems to say things just for shock factor.

[@brandonclark270]

I love Klatt you can tell this guy lives breathes and dreams about football

[@bwoods42999]

Brandon Clark I agree. Except his taken on Saquon Barkley is completely inaccurate.

[@brandonclark270]

That is very true

[@theguru2631]

Brandon Clark....yeah he really knows his stuff

[@owencollins4612]

Beninthewoods YT what part is not true? He gave out facts...lol

[@bwoods42999]

Owen Collins he said he’s not an every down back and more of a receiver. Idk if you’ve ever watched saquon play but he’s way more than that.

[@mad.kamelcrush]

Lol look at Baker and Darnold now 😂

[@princepidove7089]

Yeah lol ones a top 10 Qb and the others fighting for a starting spot

[@danielburdisso1483]

I still think Baker can reach a high ceiling

[@steveoshei1819]

@@princepidove7089 who's top 10?

[@princepidove7089]

@@steveoshei1819 Baker Before his thousand injuries

[@HDRookie]

@@princepidove7089 lol. never. hes average

[@FratBoyFitness]

Darnolds low end is not andrew luck😂 that’s his high end. His low end is sam Bradford

[@mp517q]

Fratboy Fitness he's nothing like Bradford?

[@rosswelch7035]

I agree he seems like a poor mans luck to me as well. Which isn't a bad thing imo

[@Majorkip]

Fratboy Fitness how is his high end being a injury prone loser whose had 3 shoulder surgeries and hasn't played a full season since 2015

[@ryleyleseberg7422]

No comparison. Bradford is injury prone but incredibly accurate with a great arm talent, not turnover prone. I'm not saying he's great but Darnold has MAYBE the arm. Bradford was a MUCH better prospect coming out of college.

[@dankburrito4219]

Ryley Leseberg Bradford was a great prospect coming out, but when you mention a guy He's like, at least make it conparable to the player. Bradford has always had a small frame Darnold does not. Darnold os also more mobile than Bradford could ever dream of.

[@MrScheyer30]

Colin gonna be in the 49ers Draft Room telling John Lynch to draft all of the thick and trunky players

[@denisfogarty1276]

What did Colin say about thick and trunky

[@MrScheyer30]

He has said repeatedly that Sam Darnold should be the #1 overall pick. His primary reasoning on why he thinks that is because he is "thick and trunky."

[@louwaars]

😂 broooo

[@oscarflores3887]

5:07 joel klatt destroys colin’s confidence lmao

[@HotRoute7]

Oscar Flores lmfaooooo classic

[@Big_Steve11]

according to Colin, Sam Darnold's Low end is Jesus and his high end is God

[@kathykelly5930]

and Colin goes after Allen and Lamar for having a completion percentage below 60% because there hasn't been a star NFL Qb in like the last 20 years to have a completion percentage below 60 in college. Well guess who also didn't go above 60%? SAM DARNOLD.

[@Big_Steve11]

his completion percentage was 65%

[@nikz9735]

kathy kelly it was higher than 60 tho

[@jsm530]

Rosen was only around 60% Mayfield had insane stats

[@avilliontalks]

StevieDcomics Jesus and God are the same person, technically. It's the holy trinity. Jesus, God, and whoever else is in it.

[@jeffreyfox1367]

Watching this 3 years later and who would’ve guessed it, Joel hit the nail on the head

[@beasthercules5807]

Colin contradicts himself all the time, he changes his opinion every show

[@beanzo7512]

I feel like Klatt recognizes Colin’s mediocrity

[@mobes2732]

I only watch colin to hear what Klatt says.

[@brettburton4117]

I love when Klatt calls Colin out and rips him a new one with real honest facts. No bs

[@markdouglas9182]

Colin "there is NO bust factor for Darnold".. Klatt "ah no there IS some bust factor with Darnold".. Darnold after 3 seasons - Bust...

[@pfsalinger7195]

Like most White Californians Josh Rosen has a lot of screws loose

[@ZachPhilipp]

Upside Rosen: Rodgers Allen: Stafford Mayfield: Keenum Darnold: Winston Jackson: Vick Rudolph: Flacco

[@itsyourboyhotsauce1290]

🤦‍♂️

[@steveoshei1819]

Rosen is Ryan Leaf Allen is John Elway Mayfield is keenum Darnold is Rex Grossman Jackson is Vick Rudolph is Ben Dinucci

[@thatoneguy3849]

So Darnolds floor is Andrew Luck, a pro bowl qb? Ok

[@Highline17]

I wish that was his floor 😢

[@SUPESKI]

Looking back at this is hilarious especially with Sam

[@timmoreland]

Eli and Peyton Manning grew up in a WEALTHY family, and Cooper doesn't work at McDonald's.

[@max96779]

Case keenum is bakers back up lol

[@jbleezy9116]

I will never not watch a video with Klatt, guy is pure facts and loves football

[@davidaziaya935]

Looks like he’s gonna have to work at McDonald’s

[@TheCephalon]

People think all the 1% are millionaires. If you make 125,000 a year, you’re in the 1%

[@joeboxerrr]

www.cnbc.com/2017/06/12/how-much-you-have-to-earn-to-be-in-the-top-1-percent-in-every-us-state.html

[@Trapher2]

True

[@joshuagarner1654]

Woo-hoo I'm in the one percent

[@LonghornsLegend]

I hate when these guys have favorites and guys they hate on so they carry the same opinion over into every debate about them. Colin is the worst at it

[@rja2208]

Cris carter is worse

[@nikosuavesworldofsportsmusic]

Rja2 No one is as bad as Colin (I know I'm the smartest person in the room) Cowherd lmao.

[@tmlfan7785]

LonghornsLegend your first mistake was expecting objectivity on a major us network

[@markdouglas9182]

good call back then. Darnold was Colins favourite, even Colin now admits 3 years later that he's a bust.

[@rmaciel69]

Klatt is a good football mind, but he just doesn’t like Rosen...

[@jesusblanco7657]

Rafael Maciel Klatt just said he thinks Rosen is the best pure quarterback in this draft

[@mauriciokrebs2913]

if by amazing you mean obnoxious

[@itsyourboyhotsauce1290]

🤦‍♂️

[@tipsyt1909]

Aaaaand he was right lol

[@rudyantiporda6316]

I love this show. Colin is so hilarious when he heard klatts comparing Mayfield to Brees. Big, big fan of the show keep it up

[@DrFortune5055]

it's August 2019. In retrospect, Joe Klatt hit it out of the park on Mayfield. I'm gonna be paying attention to what he has to say in the future. Meanwhile, Colin was dead wrong, as always...

[@luciuspaullus1948]

I'm from the future, Baker has more commercials than wins.

[@joed5207]

@@luciuspaullus1948 I'm from a little further he's 5-2 and just threw for 5 TDs. Meanwhile, Darnold is looking more and more like Winston.

[@steveoshei1819]

@@joed5207 i'm even a little further and he just threw for 4 pics and is getting threats from his fans and reports are the Browns are going to go in a different direction.

[@tylerguess5005]

Welcome to the modern age. Baker is a franchise quarterback for the buccs @@steveoshei1819

[@NE289LQ]

Enjoyable viewing that. Klatt and Cowherd are good duo talking football.

[@rfritz901]

Sam Darnold has some of the worst footwork of any of the QBs in this draft

[@ricardoabril5380]

turn over machine in college. let s see in the pros.

[@erosennin211]

@@ricardoabril5380 I'm guessing he still thinks he's playing at USC XD

[@JJ-en7dv]

So glad the Bills passed on him

[@kendallsmith7594]

Watching this in 2020. Colin is awful at evaluating quarterbacks in college. And very biased in evaluation in the pros

[@mattboss2452]

Josh Rosen is a model for kids. Nobody knows who he is 😂😂😂

[@JTSports]

matt boss I did but all I watch is football

[@mattboss2452]

Big PapiJT I’m just saying these kids that supposedly know about and look up to him are not enough to make Rosen a feasible role model

[@MegaMobi123]

matt boss more kids look up to lamar jackson

[@mattboss2452]

miguel medina well yea a heisman trophy winning is a role model not some snotty rich kid

[@juniegyllenhaal3937]

He was saying in his new position in life going forward he’s a role model. It’s crazy how ppl twists this interview

[@serpirt]

Saying that you shouldn't draft Josh Rosen because his family has money is beyond stupid

[@osaji922]

Browns better not get stupid and just take him. They're overthinking it. Take the most talented period

[@serpirt]

They really should but they won't because Allen throws far or Rosen doesn't care enough or something dumb like that

[@Majorkip]

Beyond The Benches money equals attitude n thinking ur better than everyone noone wants to play with a rich preppy white boy who thinks he's better than everyone and has no humble things to him.

[@serpirt]

Taylor Klock wow what a great stereotype lol

[@mannycalavera2335]

5:40 Colin has a unique talent to come up with a marriage analogy for everything. It is amazing really.

[@bluebo1212]

I predict Sam Darnold could be trade bait in 2021

[@robertmcleod1742]

To be wealthy is not a crime, it's a blessing.

[@SmellyVinegaryBallzach]

TRUMP: (Thumbs up)

[@toddthomas4761]

And this is why he'll be traded in a few weeks...

[@johnhallman3896]

Deeply respected by executives who follow your every mock draft.

[@TheCruzan26]

Sam Darnold will be a bust.

[@erosennin211]

Looking close to that recently, but he still looks better than Rosen with worst weapons.

[@erosennin211]

@Cannon Goslin Where you would put Allen though? Because to this point I'm pretty sure he's been outperforming both Darnold and Rosen, helps that he has more wins than either of them as well.

[@valuableruns]

@Cannon Goslin you are clearly biased.. if you think he can only run the ball you are wrong. The reason why he runs so much is because he has NO time or the receivers are just straight being trash like usual. Check out his 75 year bomb against the jags while being rushed by 3 people. Only one of his beatiful passes.

[@valuableruns]

@Cannon Goslin he had 18 TD's, with 1. No Offensive line 2. NO running game other than himself! So they'd play the pass every time. And 3. Terrible receivers. Search up Josh Allen drops. 5 minutes!!!!! Only bills fans know how good he did

[@valuableruns]

@Cannon Goslin dude our team was way different last yr.. we had a top 3 oline

[@scorpionz44]

to be fair, 50% of LA 20 year olds have this exact personality... theyre all walking contradictions. something in the water here

[@bgpeters22]

Daniel Chachanashvili so are evangelical Christians...but go figure

[@spencergraham-thille9896]

*50% of 20 year olds have this personality.

[@ubatooba8467]

Sam Darnold = Tim Couch.....at best.

[@benjaminagosta5333]

Baker set the NCAA record for passing efficiency rating in a season (2017). Say what you want about the kid's personality, but Baker has shown accuracy in college. Saying Drew Brees is his high-end is not blasphemous

[@bradleygrzych6359]

Klatt is phenomenal. His knowledge is great for FS1

[@iggypopisgod9]

Mayfield: 5 tds, 11 picks 2019 so far....

[@egg723]

7 TDs 2 picks 2020 so far....

[@somethingsomewhere.2613]

Sophomore slump

[@egg723]

Drake Barnett hes been awfully quiet ever since bakers got 7 TDs and 2 INTs

[@somethingsomewhere.2613]

Ë g g you can’t listen to anything Colin says about Baker because he’s probably going to flip flop on it the next week

[@egg723]

Drake Barnett He will wait until baker had a bad game (because he’s good but not some superstar) to call him case keenum

[@yanmarjr]

Joel Klatt articulates himself really well.

[@ricric9521]

Rosen's explanation about the quote "not needing football" in the press conference interview made no sense. Should've left that alone.

[@GuyOfAbsoluteTerror]

They was roastin Colin for that draft room comment lmao

[@carsonyou3322]

well this is interesting to watch in 2021

[@rja2208]

Rosen is the best qb in this draft being nitpicked to death

[@connoreasterday306]

Multiple injuries, arrogance off the field, lacks running ability, not great under with RPO 's. That's not nitpicking, that's truth. I like him a lot, he's 2nd on my board but he isn't number one.

[@benashworth2278]

best thrower, highest football IQ, ....most pro ready day one... Brady, Rivers flacco, eli cant run...runs as good as brees. the dude played tennis....they aint stationary. Durabilty is THE only red flag, but I watched every game of his. He was blasted by Texas AM both yeras and almostcame back to win both of them. ok, He had no line, no running game, so he had to pass almost every play. he took a lot of hellacious hits and kept.....coming...back...People act like he took himself out of the game everytime he got hit and that wasnt the case...HE IS NUMBER ONE.. but I dont want him goingt to CLEvland so it will work out....The Chargers backing up rivers for 2 years would be the best place

[@cyroos4926]

Ben Ashworth highest IQ? If he does then he should feel the pressure when it comes not stand there like a sitting duck.

[@serpirt]

Exactly they are tearing this kid down so hard

[@dannyking1937]

Ben Ashworth 100% right. They knitpick him by saying hes not a winner but never mention how bad his supporting cast was at UCLA.

[@WorkSmartNotHard]

Joel Klatt was right about both 🤔 I think he’ll be right about Murray tho

[@Koolej98]

Whats with Klatt and RPO?

[@ecoterrorism_liker7251]

i can't believe he said luck was the floor for darnold

[@Folds2008]

Klatt always brings his A game, love his segments. I like the high end being Brees as well because Klatt is not saying he will be Brees but that his talent can reach a level of Brees. I think Colin at times thinks high end/low end means that they will become that player in the minds of people, its just a scale

[@klaytonheiman9880]

The colts drafted 2 of Klatts 3 top qbs and I can't remember what it was with Elway but I think they could've got him too?

[@am__-tr4ki]

I don't get the controversy. If he is the best talent by far you pick him first. Talented qb don't exactly grow on trees.

[@rmr1300]

Joel crispy cut Klatt

[@garycobiak5926]

They need to just have the draft already. They're running out of stuff to talk about

[@maymoneymayfield9065]

Waiting for his divorce analogy

[@ecoterrorism_liker7251]

klatt was so right

[@steveoshei1819]

About what?

[@kylewoodowens4488]

On Darnold being better than Andrew Luck.

[@_dranillo1k]

5:15 😂😂 classic Colin

[@billbrasky12]

Joel Klatt One of the very few Class acts and Intelligent sports commentators in the business. Hands down. Doesnt nearly get enough credit.

[@mattdillinger8133]

So when your in the draft room with John Lynch please tell him to draft Roquan Smith or Denzel Ward if he's there some how.

[@beniansevuk6812]

Joel Klatts Opinion is great

[@randomdude12370]

Darnold does have bust factor, dude can't stop turning over the ball

[@jesg7865]

Daaaam! He tore you wide open!

[@theunpopularopinionatedten4951]

Joel Klatt: Outragous to say Baker is the next Manzel. Joel Klatt: Baker compares to Drew Brees. What. LOL 😂

[@holsum1holloway482]

Klatt needs prayer “Baker Ceiling is Drew Brees” *Every grabs hands and starts praying*

[@ringoflynt]

This aged like fine wine

[@pacificwonderland6863]

I think Sam Darnolds low end is Mark Sanchez, and high end Jay Cutler.

[@gartchii9958]

Klatt alittle feisty today

[@joshuahendrix3755]

Joel is clearly more reliable when it comes to college prospects

[@oj7063]

josh rosen is closer to manziel than mayfield in terms of personality

[@thawkereynolds]

Couldn't agree more w Joel Klatt

[@reedp5773]

6:15 "high end on mayfield" what a joke

[@antonioc3995]

“Low end: Andrew luck “ Bruh 😂😂😂😂😂 Colin my boi 😭😭😭😭😂😂

[@johnbrowntheprophet]

I'd add Troy Aikman in 1989 as the *fourth* can't-miss, sure-fire "generational talent" QB taken in the past 30 to 40 years in addition to Elway, Manning, and Luck. He was taken Number One over Barry Sanders, Deion Sanders, and Derrick Thomas in a very top-heavy draft.

[@leetuathao]

This guy knew Rosen was a bust solely on how he carried himself.

[@gonzox00]

I honestly think that Rosen's camp isn't not trying to lower his stock in order to slip down past the Browns

[@dgrimm7141]

"No bust factor for Darnold" This did not age well

[@bluebo1212]

Rosen turned out to be a BUST partly because he lacked the capability to relate with his teammates from different backgrounds.

[@coltonbahamonde4358]

I’m pretty sure all he was trying to say was that some players in the nfl have to play because they would have no other way of making money he continues to work hard at football even though he could go do something else and make good money which speaks to his love of the game

[@mikescorpio1108]

Don't overthink this, Klatt.

[@88smjls]

Sounds like Rosen isn’t self-aware at all and might not be that smart.

[@heezy_17yt70]

Darnold: Throws to many picks Rosen: Doesnt want to play is in it for money Mayfield: Short and not a pro style offense Allen: Is the most talented Jackson: Is not a QB

[@steveoshei1819]

Best aged comment of all

[@jaslowparton3456]

Mayfield is the best new QB in the NFL. You can take that to the bank.

[@r.minnis9722]

Jaslow Parton 😂that dumpster fire misses the playoffs i promise you

[@ghosttoast8610]

@@r.minnis9722 lmao

[@Faze9784]

People are trying too hard to throw dirt on these kids. Let them enjoy their moment. You're not the one getting drafted.

[@zachfalberg3617]

Its all good guys, "He's from the one percent"

[@ChillConservative2k15]

Baker Mayfield is not similar as a player to Johnny Manziel at all. Baker is a far more accurate QB than Johnny Manziel was and is way more efficient. Not only that he is a pas first guy as opposed to run first Johnny Manziel. He also is a leader unlike Manziel. Absurd comparison.

[@danielpenrod5843]

Social media just makes everything, sports especially, far too convoluted. I grasp the concept of certain analytics actually bringing a factor to the game and how we make our decisions, but we oversaturate that desire for information by resorting to the promotion of every detail that pertains to the athlete. Can you imagine what athletes like Brett Favre, Pete Rose, or Dennis Rodman would’ve tweeted back when they were coming out of high school or college and into professional sports? Haha

[@maxwellhammond1078]

I miss college football

[@Frederick0220]

Klatt pulverized Colin here. Luck is a top 5 QB in the NFL when he's healthy. Absurd saying that the WORST CASE SCENARIO for Darnold.

[@yoransom]

This is a classic example of people looking to deep into it. The way I see it he is head and shoulders above ALL of the other quarterbacks.

[@michelcharbonnier7603]

If Darnold''s low end WOULD be Andrew Luck, their would be no doubt in anybody's mind, not even in the Browns' weird minds, to take him #1. You could argue Luck would be Darnold's ceiling, but his floor? That's insane.

[@vmaund33]

This man must be getting some extra $$ from the giants or something... hes always negative on rosen... the most talented qb in the draft

[@PorkChopExpress86]

Eddie Haskell 😂

[@DPRX99]

I'm glad I don't have to work for McDonalds either. But if I did, I'd do it with pride.

[@Jack6on]

Klatt's an interesting podcast prospect. He's reading from a teleprompter so you have to question the system he's worked under, could be a red flag going forward. His on-air performance and analysis is great. Has a clean past, family guy. With his prompter red flag considered I think he's an iTunes Top 10 chart sports and recreation podcast.

[@kingdaymon6433]

It's kinda funny now that Rosen ended up being a bum.