Joel’s Darkest Secret Revealed - Voice Actor Reacts to The Last of Us Part 2 (Blind Playthrough) [7]

[@GabeKundaTV]

Not gonna lie, that final scene with Joel FINALLY telling the truth and seeing Ellie’s reaction kinda broke me. I’m glad she knows the truth, but oooof, was that painful to see! Next upload is Wed :)!

[@r3zuri]

Yeah. On one hand, Ellie is absolutely justified in feeling how she feels. She was allowed to feel angry and she definitely was allowed to set that boundary and demand space from him. It just sucks that circumstances happened the way they did re: his death, because now she's left feeling unresolved re: their relationship. Which is why she's going at this whole revenge quest so hard. Not only did she lose Joel, but she also lost her ability to mend her relationship with him.

[@Quotenwagnerianer]

I love how the structure of the storytelling reveals bit by bit in what state Ellie's and Joels relation was in when Joel died.

[@IGGY_Nuggz]

Yep. Was waiting for this one. Gonna be a tough watch. From the hospital to the flashback. Double punch. How the entire story unfolds made me want to immediately replay it all again. It hits even harder the second time after all revealed.

[@IGGY_Nuggz]

@@r3zuriYep. Big lesson. Never be mad too long because you never know what tomorrow brings. Lots of guilt in this game.

[@TahoeNevada]

Not saying it was Mel that Ellie heard on the recorder, but it *was* the voice of Ashly Burch who did performance capture for Mel

[@lonnieezell]

The emotion Naughty Dog manages to catch in the facial expressions is second to none. So good with the small muscles in the face telling the story.

[@Fkn_yeyseman]

Ashley Johnsons delivery of 'Its me' when Ellie bangs on the theatre door is masterful. The weight of what she managed to convey with just two words is absolutely incredible. She is so so talented, wow. PS. Brilliant assessment of the the emotional themes of the game so far at the end, the complexity of Joel and Ellies relationship makes her journey for revenge for his death so so much deeper than we first thought.

[@rhiannonschaumburg564]

"If I ever were to lose you, I'd surely lose myself"

[@powermaxx11]

Everybody gangster until they're the one pressing square to torture Nora

[@danh8804]

I've never understood why this is difficult for anyone, I think it's the exception not the rule for it to be, and it's beyond pretentious that Naughty Dog thinks that's what they accomplished. it's not a "choice" by the player as a moral agent within the game. The "choice", such as it is, is "play the entire game with its narrative that is entirely on rails that you spent $60 on" or "arbitrarily stop in the middle because you're moralizing over pixels the game didn't actually give you any control over" It's nonsense. And for that matter, it wasn't hard to push the button at all. Nora and her crew had it coming. And it worked - she *did* give up her friend. My only hope is that Ellie left her broken shattered body alive to fully experiencing turning.

[@dilya5097]

@@danh8804I know how you feel, since it wasn’t difficult for me, either. However, just because we haven’t experienced it, doesn’t mean it wasn’t difficult for anybody. I know you think the game is pretentious and your opinion is certainly valid, but it’s best not to begin an angry rant with, “I’ve never understood.” That’s right - you never understood. That’s okay.

[@kylemoore861]

@@danh8804 I see this take a lot and I just want to say I don't think ND wanted to make it feel like this was YOUR choice and to make you feel bad that you chose to do all this. Rather, it wants you to feel the weight of the choice that ELLIE is making by having you do it in her shoes, whether you agree with what she is doing or not.

[@danh8804]

@ but again your only “choice” about the narrative in TLOU 2 is to buy and play the game at all. ND did all they could to accomplish that within the first two hours. And don’t even get me started on the ludonarrative dissonance between Cutscene Ellie, for whom beating Nora is a moral event horizon, and Gameplay Ellie who is less Murder Hobo and more Biblical Angel of Death

[@thomaschampon202]

Something that people usually overlook about Ellie is that she suffers from "Survivor s Guilt", which is a mental condition that affect people surviving a massive trauma. She talks about about it at the end of the first game: she feels guity of being alive after Riley s death, then Tess, Sam etc.. So Joel didnt just "lied to her", he also took away from her the only thing that could have redeemed herself from still being alive.. And now she owes the whole Humanity. Everyone that gets infected is on her, because she didnt die in that hospital.. She kind of let that slip when she and Joel found the teenagers in the dinner.. "if only they were immune, right?"

[@slickstar96]

So then this begs the question could ellie ever handle the truth? i have my own opinion on this matter but its soo fascinating to hear the pros & cons of the situation the justification the demoralization of the other side to bolster arguements...

[@thomaschampon202]

@@slickstar96 I do have an opinion too, and the game give some hints, but i cant discuss that further without spoilers.. :)

[@nightfrost1891]

i feel like knowing you could have saved/had a vaccine for everyone and that was taken from you would make anyone feel HORRIBLE even if she would thank joel for what he done you'd still think of it every time you see an infected, that is A LOT to process but i think it goes even further than survivor's guilt, she's literally effed up over having the cure and not being able to do anything about it

[@ashleyl3699]

no she doesn't. that's just what Joel is trying to convince her in order to make her stop questioning. Ellie completely rejects it. in fact when Joel tries to gaslight her into believing that's what she's feeling, she angrily shuts him up and interrupts him to demand he cut the bullshit and just tell her what he did. she is telling Joel that her death already happened, and she wants the miracle of her survival to stop the deaths of all the people she loves, like Riley, and Tess, and Sam, and the many more to come. she's trying to tell him why she's okay with dying, because for her, her turn already did come, and she wants her survival to mean something. she's not guilty about surviving, she's hopeful that she will save others through her surviving, and Joel took that opportunity to save everybody she loves away from her.

[@lindabold8196]

Omg! 😂You look SO stressed in that last scene, rocking back and forth 😂 hiding in your hoodie😅

[@GabeKundaTV]

SO STRESSED!!! haha

[@Conroe]

"The body keeps the score" is such a philosophical sentence.

[@lordyeetus6317]

Also the name of a very good book about trauma.

[@YouMe-ru6wi]

Tragic, beautiful, emotional, multi-layered masterpiece in so many ways, and you still have so much more left to discover. Also at 1:31:38 that's Ellie using her super power of being immune looking down at the basement and seeing all the spores and throwing Nora down there, and making all those soldiers come down.

[@Montoyyyyya]

You have to draw the bow till the end for it to do full damage and actually kill people. That’s also why the explosive arrow did nothing at 1:14:44, you literally shot it without even holding R2, so it landed right in front of you and damaged no one!!

[@cordycepsinfection]

Literally just finished the previous episode this couldn’t have been timed more perfectly lol

[@AC-ow1gj]

lol same

[@arielb102011]

Me too 😂

[@SilenceP81]

Hey Gabe, the bow works a lot better when you fully draw back the arrow. You get better kills.

[@karr203]

How you just gonna ignore Ice Cube lol

[@RobertoViti]

There are two main parts that are amazing. One, that can work only on this medium and the other one that is an amazing point of story telling. The first one is where you hit Nora. You are forced to feel the weight of every blow that you deliver, so much that you can (I did) end up shaking like Ellie. The second one is in Seattle when she keeps rewinding the tape, hoping to hear something different than "even if we find some other immune". She loves Joel so much that she can't believe what she's listening to, that she's hoping that she got it wrong. This game is layer, after layer, after layer of story telling. Oh god it never grows old.

[@Fkn_yeyseman]

I love that every NPC has a name, even the dogs, and they grieve their friends being killed by Ellie. Drives home that all of these people are just trying to survive too and highlights the brutality of Ellies desire to avenge Joel. A clever way to ingrain a crucial theme of the game into every gameplay sequence.

[@KayinAngel]

1:39:50 YOU made her talk. Not sure the weight of your actions and the implications of that Square button has been felt yet, lol. Should be a fun ride next episode.

[@IGGY_Nuggz]

Heavy, heavy episode. You’re all over it as always Gabe. Seeing Ellie broken is so tough after the hospital. Another great episode bud.

[@N7AslansHobbit_Ry]

Friendly tip, Gabe, you don't need to craft unless you see a wrench symbol by your health and ammo HUD.

[@SubTXT_]

Man, I know that feeling of wrapping my hoodie around my head, clutching it, and peaking out painfully anticipating what’s coming 😂

[@yuikoo0613]

Delivering as always, really enjoying your playthrough and how you appreciate every part from the story to the graphics cant wait for more also this game looks 10x better than how i remember playing it back in 2020 wow

[@PettyPerkins]

With how you analyze the game i am so excited to see other games outside of tlou. I have watched countless ppl react to these games and you are one of the few that i want to stick around with. Gg Gabe you're awesome and i love your reactions

[@mae_lemon4241]

I love your reflection on everything at the end of each episode

[@R989D]

1:10:13 I IMDb’d it and you’re right. How funny to hear your friends on a game. Especially one as iconic as TLOU. 🥰

[@brookierookie123]

I haven't finished the whole vid yet (30:39) so idk if you figure out this mechanic later, but I just wanted to say you can shoot from prone! It's really nice for stealth, especially when you have an enemy close by. You just might have to maneuver a bit for a better view if you're in heavy foliage.

[@Frozone_88]

Get your bow game up by pulling back fully it does more damage

[@tsg712-t7e]

I think Ellie's feelings at that moment are even bleaker: I see her as utterly crushed by the weight of all of those they have lost to cordyceps and the destruction around it. Much like she recounted at the end of Part I, she feels survivor's guilt from being the sole immune person, the one who was "left behind." Riley, Tess, Henry, Sam, the mother she never knew, Marlene. And now this betrayal from Joel, a betrayal of her trust and autonomy as a person.

[@cmart5]

Please keep weapons reloaded for maximum ammunition storage

[@jimgolino-ed7kc]

"I am all out of everything" 5 seconds earlier uses a molotov on an enemy you can walk up to for a free instakill 😂

[@sickmit3481]

1:08:31 that game is actually Hotline Miami. A brutal top-down shooter video game thats very addicting.

[@Laughing_Individual]

Regarding the bow, I'm sure you've noticed the extra notches below the reticule. You need to compensate for the arrow drop when aiming farther. The arrow doesn't fly in a straight line.

[@toadinboots]

Similar to the sniper rifle, which he's good at. Just gotta compensate for the drop and pulling back harder.

[@LeoRichVids]

The removal of the Ellie's shirt after the Nora part apparently was a huge thing videogamewise. Like that animation was never done before so well until this game.

[@cosmo_3]

"anybody know where the beans went?" "NO" 💀💀💀

[@YaneS-]

Been watching from the start of the first game (I main you in valorant btw) and wanted to say that I'm genuinely so excited for your breakdown of the game once you've finished it. Keep enjoying!

[@watchingnyaa]

Omg I can’t wait for the next vids!! Seattle Day 3 is my favorite section!

[@alexleafman]

My brother you need to hold down to charge arrows or they will go nowhere.

[@Pix_PT]

1:08:21 That is a PS Vita running Hotline Miami :D That game is so cool

[@23ebnerbrad]

Loving the Gameplay Gabe! It’s been entertaining to watch!

[@whaliensuperstar]

i think the game the girl was playing on the psp was hotline miami. unique and fun little game. i recognize the iconic music

[@asmrmoony]

that flashback straight up STABBED me

[@jimgolino-ed7kc]

Tips & Tricks Monday! Don't forget that you can attach/detact ur silencer whenever you want. Removing it when stealth isnt necessary goes a long way. Lets talk about melee weapons! They each have a certain number of attacks b4 breaking. Ax for example has 5 or 6. U can see this represented below the icon on ur HUD. Typically u hit an enemy twice to kill them unless theyre stunned. Thatyll take away 2 of its 6 durability. When u upgrade the weapon every hit is a strike that will kill the enemy. You could kill 2-3 people with the regular ax but upgraded u can kill 5-6. Advanced Tip. If you use the ax for a few kills (bringing the durability from 6 down to 2 for example) THEN upgrade it, it will repair its durability back to full as well. More bang for ur buck. Watching you drop a fully upgraded machete for a non-graded one, then dropping a fully upgraded ax for a shotel, then dropping your fully upgraded pickaxe for a standard ax was something else lol. Not to mention all the resources you used to upgrade all those weapons and then not use any of them lol. Take advantage of those melee weapons baby! Bonus tip. Your wasting so many health kits. Outside the hospital you used a kit to bring you from 20% health up to 90% health. Then immediately used another kit to heal that last little sliver of your health bar. You're picking up what I'm putting down lol. Hopefully this is coming across as helpful and not as critiquing, im truly enjoying watching u experience these games Gabe!

[@fabiilemos]

Hey Gabe, loving your channel, already seeing other gameplays! I’m sending you love from Brasil 🇧🇷 Just some tips for the combat here: - You don’t need to waste bricks/ bottles or bullets to break the glasses, you can just press square and Ellie will hit it with her arm and break the glass. - Humans can se your flashlight, so when trying to play stealth against humans you need to turn it off. Infected don’t see it, so you can always leave it on when fighting them. - If you wait to improve your melee when it’s almost out of hits it regenerates completely, so it’s nice to use it first and then improve it because it’s like you have two melee’s in one. - You need to pull the bow completely before shooting so it’s more accurate. I hope you love this game as much as I do, it’s my absolute favorite ❤️

[@ChibiHoshiDragon]

It is the butt of her switchblade, not her arm, but yeah, save the brick/bottle for quick throws to stun enemies and run towards them to use a melee weapon for a 1 hit kill even with regular, non-upgraded, weapons. Melee weapons do not just regenerate when almost out. (regenerate implies it happens on its own). If you wait to upgrade your melee when it's almost out of hits, you recover the used hits and they become stronger. You have to time the upgrade to right before it breaks to get the most usage out of it, but this risks losing the melee weapon altogether if you are bad at timing upgrades and it breaks before you upgrade. Love from Alagoas

[@diogobfonseca]

8:56 hahaha I feel you, man! I was thinking the same. Hate those damn stalkers!

[@GabeKundaTV]

I HATE THEM!

[@marcinkosinski89]

I assume what hurt Ellie the most is that someone she respected and loved took away something very important from her-the right to decide, to choose. Ironically, it wasn't just Joel; this is exactly what Marlene and the Fireflies had done as well-they didn't let Joel and Ellie say their goodbyes, and they didn't ask Ellie about her permission to sacrifice her life in pursuit of a noble goal that could potentially save all humankind. The way she sees it, she was deprived of an opportunity to do something she couldn't do for Riley and many others she held dear. She was willing to risk everything to silence her guilt, her grief. Joel didn't just deprive her of a choice; he shattered her sense of purpose, making her feel like a spectator of her own life.

[@odile8701]

Yeah: she kinda lets Marlene off the hook, when Marlene was ALSO taking away her actual choice. Though I suppose it’s easier to forgive someone for making the choice for you that you would’ve made given the choice, then it is to forgive the person who made the choice for you that you wouldn’t have. But that’s why, as much as I wouldn’t say Joel did the right thing, I also don’t feel bad for the Fireflies. The only chance they had to survive was letting Ellie tell Joel that this is what she wanted, and they couldn’t be bothered to give her that.

[@rafaelnussi2001]

Ellie was totally shattered after killing nora. I think she felts she was losing her humanity. After all, she tortured and kill a person who already was condemened.

[@cozydayzandnightz]

RIP Simon, RIP Nora; best episode so far! I can't believe we're not even half way through the game, but I'm looking forward to more.

[@brucegordon9128]

"This is my friend Erica. I love her to life." *pulls out trap mine. "Let's see how good her scream take is!"

[@rubenthehuman]

01:41:30 I played it on a PS4 Slim and it already looked beautiful and clean, it is mostly due to the amazing art design. Now I want to replay it on a PS5, it's been 4 years already, I think I'm emotionally prepared again 🤣

[@monicarodrigzz]

it's always wonderful to watch your journey with this masterpiece

[@GabeKundaTV]

That is so annoying! Lol

[@dilanhos2499]

Just be patient enough to draw that arrow!!! Even if you aim the right place just because you didn’t draw it enough they don’t die!

[@Mike_unhinged]

52:26 nah this is crazzzzzzzzy!😭

[@GabeKundaTV]

😭

[@Nerps]

Hey you were talking about going to any cons which is funny, watching your last video I went and looked at the cons you attended hoping to see you scheduled at one soon! Definitely should go to one of the Seattle cons like PAX or Emerald City Comic Con! As a Last of Us 2 fan Seattle is always a blast because NaughtyDog does their research and in game Seattle is almost one to one to real life Seattle! Would love to meet you and get a signature though you should definitely do a con!

[@toadinboots]

The last flashback is so heartbreaking because you realize Joel & Ellie may not have been on good terms when he died, adding guilt & shame as extra motivation to Ellie's mission. She already had survivor's guilt by the end of game 1, and it comes to a head with the truth. But now the shame and "what-if's" of would Joel have died if she didn't push him away, what if they were on good terms and she was on patrol with Joel that day? - and so on. Could this mission to find Abby be Ellie's way to prove to him in death that she cared?

[@kylemoore861]

you need to let the bowstring get pulled all the way back to do enough damage to get stealth kills with one hit like you want. You can upgrade the draw speed in a workbench which would help.

[@sorabove]

Your buddy Erica was also a huge main character in Horizon: Forbidden West. They even used her likeness. If you ever wanna play the Horizon games I won't spoil who she was.

[@keltavuokko]

It breaks my heart seeing Joel kiss Ellie's head in that flashback. It never ceases to bring me to the brink of tears.

[@Osoch]

I KNEW for sure that would be your reaction at 1:09:60 She's your "sister" after all lol

[@Mike_unhinged]

The scars are one of the best enemies I’ve encountered in a game,

[@BWCDAD]

Not sure if you put it together or not, but the note from simon at around 40 mins was referring to Paige who the scars hung in the first apartment building you went into last episode.

[@JayStreamz23]

Good stuff my guy

[@saadesigner07]

You should consider using your quick throw more. Holding L2 to aim your throw is hurting you. Great playthrough so far. See you Wednesday! I am really surprised that you didn't have any comments at all about Abby being locked up. Multiple mentions of it. I think you were probably just super focused on being in kill mode.

[@KillJoy5950]

Had my boy fighting a bunch of yondu’s

[@travistesluk3986]

This is easily the most anticipated moment for all of us watching you on this journey. Ashley Johnson deserves even more credit than she's gotten. The back-to-back scenes of Ellie's vengeance and brutality, then jumping fully into Ellie's revelation and realization. UGH. 😭 I can't lie though, your reaction seemed like you were scared for her to hear the truth and it was amusing. Lol

[@jessemartinez2923]

If god gave me 2nd chance I would do it all over again

[@allys911]

i dont have fancy enough monitors/ console/pc to play this in 4k T.T. a dream honestly

[@bbto2194]

1:08:37 Hotline Miami

[@Grinner_J]

We love Hotline Miami. I have a fan-trailer I made on my channel (awesome plug).

[@clintdickerson3804]

1:54:06 I feel like Joel would have been so much more better off with telling her when she asked him for the truth the first time. The fact that he was going to take that truth to the grave, is wild!!! Ellie wanted her life to mean something. If her death meant life for millions, she would have gladly do what Joel stopped from happening. Understand Joel loved her, he probably saw his daughter in Ellie and couldn’t bare to lose another “child”. I get it, but..MAN..lol

[@aru7288]

Hi Gabe thank you for another drop, once you finish the game I highly recommend you doing a video to you reacting to the last of us grounded documentaries.

[@nannacat3]

Yes! 🎉 Love It so soon!

[@TETTATEA]

omygod i am so early cant wait to finish this

[@UndercitySage]

This was one of the hardest episodes, for sure. Ellie’s day 3 is one of my favorites sections in the game, I’m excited to see your thoughts on Wednesday. 😌

[@Rob_Infinity3]

6:55 - And you would have seen something a little creepy too. If you had been looking at the doorway when you heard the sound. 😉 9:05 - My least favourite type of infected. The Stalker! 22:10 - Yes. Aren't infected that have grown onto the wall, delightful? 😂 25:15 - Although some cities would be improved by an apocalypse! 😂😂 26:23 - Say hello to the Seraphites aka the Scars. 27:46 - Hello Seraphites! 40:48 - Yeah! Break those ankles! 😂 1:14:45 - You didn't pull back on the bow enough. So the explosive arrow didn't reach who you aimed at. 1:29:49 - Oh no, she di'n't! 1:52:02 - Like in a lot of media (TV, movies) with a character. Joel didn't explain things fully. Like WHY he did what he did. I mean, Ellie may have still reacted the way she did. But, y'know....?

[@3loodyVengence]

Youre doing well with the bow in regards of aiming buuut, you aren't fully drawing the string. You're either quarter draw to half draw. I even caught a 3/4 draw. Just get used to how long you are supposed to draw the shot back for in order to 1 shot enemies. Also make sure you keep still for the shot! 🙂

[@jbusley]

Hoodie up. You know it’s serious

[@chippylipton8147]

If you ever go to New York comic con, please let us know! I only live about an hour and a half away.

[@iwillroam]

Speculation not spoilers, but I think that Part III is going to tell us something about Ellie's brain that we didn't think of before, freeze the image at 1:46:17 and take a hard look at her scans.

[@UrlikePappa]

please make 17 hours video and finish the game so i can die peacefully.

[@GabeKundaTV]

We need you alive sir 😭

[@ShaddaQueen]

Any updates on upload time?

[@silv3r77]

Alright, I've seen enough. Subscribed.

[@fitnessandfandom]

@1:50:07 Gabe hiding. 🤣

[@TahoeNevada]

Remember, Stalkers are more afraid of you than you are of them

[@pandabu1432]

ngl i subscribed for valorant but i ended up watching vlogs and playthroughs more. love that don't we (=

[@dipaaa3219]

Give me 10 clickers and im gonna fight them with no fear at all but not with stalkers

[@mattmiltenberger145]

Can I make a suggestion when it comes to using the bow?

[@HulioTebenado]

What's next? Have you heard of the game 'Indika'? It's a short indie game about a nun, set in an alternative late 19th century Russia, exploring themes of religion and society. I think it would be perfect for your channel, considering how thoughtfully and deeply you usually play

[@angelscrownttv]

Oh no... Judging from the title I can guess which part comes up and I am not mentally ready.

[@ashleyl3699]

i don't think she hates Joel because of the lie. Ellie has to spend the rest of her life watching people die horribly and know she failed to save to them. that is *unimaginable* mental pain. it seems like something only your worst enemy could do to you, but Joel did this to her out of "love".

[@bizmania101]

The fight in front of the hospital, most of the time a soldier will say, "No, they killed Bear!!", when you shoot the dog, just a note for later. I'm very much enjoying your play through, thanks again Gabe.

[@KC-kb4pz]

I think when it comes down to it, a man who lost his daughter wasn’t the best person for this job

[@beginoor3675]

🖤

[@baxterbasics]

Lot's to be said about this section. But I can't let that waste of a molotov around 52:30 slide dude.

[@michaelharrison8920]

Stalkers are the greatest infected ever always hiding not easy to find where there are than you got the scars good with bow and arrows and faintly you got Nora who will just made you mad 😠 and than you find Ellie who after all of joes lies she has to find the truth the hard way and the only place is the hospital 🏥 and she’s don’t like what joes done hiding the truth from her Ellie’s been thought a lot to get where she is now this is beautiful acting 🎭 from everybody involved thanks see ya later bye 🙋‍♂️

[@spiritual2355]

،she did to nora what abby did to joel ...that make u think that what abby felt when she kill joel ...this what revange did to you

[@Gwennie363]

I especially like the physical parallel - the pipe is so similar to the golf club and much of their movement is similar. And how the game places you, the player, in the hotseat to do the dirty deed with none only one but three separate prompts.

[@k4yons]

1:50:14 Hahaha! not you curling yourself up in the hoodie like you are to blame for this big lie instead of joel 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@GabeKundaTV]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Nikadeemus88]

finally

[@oceanviewer2025]

Revelations

[@LeoRichVids]

PS Vita!

[@clintdickerson3804]

1:50:24 Ughhhh this was and STILL is hard to watch! Mannnnn….

[@Idk.JJ1]

Hey Gabe !! Just a little tip the arrow won’t instantly kill if it’s not drawn all the way back so when your in a stealth situation make sure you have pulled the arrow all the way so the white dot is visible in the middle of the aim if that makes sense!🥲

[@Idk.JJ1]

I’m not sure if you knew that but I thought I’d say anyway 😓

[@bluvnder.1307]

Omg THANKK YOU FOR MAKING MY WISH COME TRUE🥹💗💗 gotta love it when u fast upload!🫂🙏