Joel Seedman - AGENT OF CHAOS

[@zacktelander]

I am absolutely ashamed I didn't notice this video instagram.com/p/CJ_lI47D-m0/

[@somedude84961]

This guy's commitment to being an absolute fuckwit in the comments is kind of impressive

[@ryanoconnell6617]

This is the one I thought of immediately. I actually ‘READ THE ARTICLE!’ And it was absolutely awful. Took me almost zero thought to rebuttal each if the 13 reasons

[@Mrtunneling]

Holy crap, took me a good 5 secs to process what was actually happening.

[@robschilke]

What the actual fuck.

[@lukewilson7769]

Ultimate best snatch variation ever experimented with. Don't believe me? rEaD tHe ArTiClE

[@christomlinson6068]

Imagine how much Clarence could snatch if he trained chaos and anti-chaos

[@somedude84961]

The world isn't ready

[@willbrewster976]

@waoh3 Chris Carson?

[@gabehodgson3290]

Clarence can’t even snatch

[@mistatrollge3184]

Imagine if Clarence competed

[@caaaaaaaaaz]

you guys are all wrong, clarence is a stancher not a snatcher

[@Kelogos]

"Well, we science'd him and that didn't work... ah fuck it let's just dunk on him" Is honestly the only Sane reaction to Joel Seedman

[@samkee3859]

HappySandals HappySandals

[@izzate7]

He’s science resistant.

[@RamseyDewey]

Another thing this video makes me think of is how common it is to attribute great coaching ability to a coach who is lucky enough to work with a successful athlete. Now, if you send 30 average people to a coach who is somehow able to transform them all into elite athletes, then it would stand to reason to assume that coach is doing something right. But more often then not, what happens is a talented athlete joins up with a coach because of his social skills, charisma, reputation, or a previously existing friendship, and then that coach will parlay that athlete’s success into self aggrandizing propaganda. And people will accept it because, hey, he did coach an elite athlete after all.

[@IDontWantAnyDubiggersInTheRest]

Rip John Kavanagh

[@hungcapitalll]

@@IDontWantAnyDubiggersInTheRest was just thinking the same thing

[@XXLRebel]

Yep, look at celebrity coaches. Even worse.

[@akv-e5t]

great diction.

[@dilbopillobobip7528]

How I feel when I see fitness KZbinr's (juji, wheels) going to a chiropractor

[@Drenmii]

Imagine spending 90% of your time in the gym setting up these marvellous contraptions instead of putting work in.

[@XXLRebel]

You're right. Even IF these exercises had some sort of benefits that traditional exercises don't provide you're taking away from the effectiveness of the workout by slowing down the pace tremendously because you're setting up so much with so much equipment, taking up so much space. Why are we even analyzing this bullshit...😂

[@MrCmon113]

I'm feeling really bad for newbies falling for this guy and terribly overthinking every exercise. He says that you need to be mindful of push ups being a rotational movement around your feet...

[@AlteredState1123]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@chickendealer9313]

Imagine Mark Rippertoe reaction to Joel seedcums videos

[@zacktelander]

just a video of him repeatedly building up blood pressure in his head from watching Joel seedman and then watching a high-hipped deadlift to calm him down.

[@theoreticalfitness7701]

@@zacktelander Pink lives matter!

[@scazscaz1348]

Idk, maybe Rip could make it thru a whole Seedman video. But if someone even whispers "RPE" in a 7mile radius after that vid, he'll flip his shit

[@jamesbrisendine]

I got red in the face just watching Zack watch them

[@ivanmarasmiladinov3093]

It's hard to imagine the color his face would be after that, since he's already purple all the time

[@GymNeedham]

I like Mark Rippetoe says "complexity appeals to stupid people"

[@rutatutut]

Imagine how pink Rip would turn if he stumbled upon Joel's IG page.

[@tomasmaas7401]

He makes simple things more difficult than they need to be to stand out and act smart

[@samkee3859]

ToMas Maas

[@harryschrysan3183]

He must have been Jeff Cavalier's pupil

[@mastermindmartialarts]

exactly

[@drongaming7148]

Thank you zack. You motivated me to continue with strength training and I lost 70 pounds total. Thanks for improving my health and my life

[@jonostake]

That’s awesome, congrats bro

[@zacktelander]

Damn that’s amazing. I’m happy to have been a part of your journey so far. Keep training!

[@RamseyDewey]

Chaos/Anti-Chaos! That’s the most amazing thing I’ve heard all day! This is amazing. In my experience, if a trainer can’t explain the how’s and why’s of techniques in simple language that an average person could understand, and instead turn a simple exercise into a complex linguistics experiment that requires multiple PhD’s in both philology and kinesthesiology to interpret, then there’s something wrong.

[@chronometa]

New marvel movie

[@StevenIuele98]

That’s always a strategy implemented by bullshit artists isn’t it? It’s like the saying, if you can’t explain it to a child, you probably don’t truly understand it yourself

[@XXLRebel]

PERFECTLY explained. If you're truly knowledgeable about a topic and you're able to convey that wisdom to the average person you may call yourself a great teacher. If you have to rely on jargon to sound smart because you're incapable of explaining things in normal terms you automatically disqualify yourself as a great teacher. Imagine getting taught by someone on your first training of a sport and it sounds something like "First, you take the dinglebop and you smooth it out with a bunch of schleem. The schleem is then repurposed for later batches. Then you take the dinglebop and push it through the grumbo."

[@1TieDye1]

Philology. The study of Phils

[@joelyoder7960]

When we oversimplify, the information becomes altered in translation. How can a calculus teacher explain a problem to a student when the student did not take pre-calc in order to learn the definition of a function, derivative, integral, or logarithm. These are complex ideas that allow the learner to build on and solve new problems to continue learning. The idea that the complexity of the body should be reduced is a platform for failure, just like you wouldn't allow a college kid to take a course without first taking a prerequisite. If you're interested in learning more I could point you to a Rob Gray video that presents better information for the WHY behind this. Reducing complexity in the body is like saying a car drives with its wheels. But we know the engine, transmission, differential, axles, and steering wheel are all necessary for it to drive. If you ask a mechanic, someone with knowledge, what the most important part of the car is, they may give you a more reasonable answer than a child with no knowledge. Fear of seeking available knowledge leads to us being more like the child and less like the mechanic. Now a good mechanic can describe the inner workings of a car, but she will first have to explain the difference between a transmission and a differential if you don't already know. COMPLICATED is not the same as COMPLEXITY. When we don't understand that a system is complex, we accuse the teacher of making this complicated...

[@SchmidtyFilms]

The problem with his programming (other than what you've said) is that there's no progression. How do you know if you're actually getting stronger or more fit? Your body is just adapting to a different set of skills every exercise. You're essentially not moving forward or backwards towards a goal, just like weirdly taking steps side to side forcing your nervous system to adapt to ridiculous movements that have no specific focus on progressing. The squat works because it's a general enough movement that it allows you to get the strongest with minimal adapting to other lower body power exercises. If you can squat heavy, you can probably lunge heavy, hip hinge heavy, jump high, etc. After you squat heavy, then you can focus on little specific movements. God damn I've always wanted to just comment this on one of his posts but I know it would be futile lol.

[@T1Slam]

You make good sense, man. But is the progress really untrackable? It can be visual, like muscles growing, or motorics improving that could be seen in other aspects of life.

[@SchmidtyFilms]

@@T1Slam yeah true, I guess I meant more like how can you really know if you’re getting stronger if you’re constantly changing exercises. But I guess yeah you could see if your muscles were growing or losing fat or something

[@zacktelander]

@@T1Slam At the end of the day improvement on the field of play is the goal for sports performance coaches. However, tying an improvement on the field to that of the weightroom in many cases is disingenuous. It’s really a catch 22 when critiquing this man. So your point is definitely valid. However, the surrounding bullshit he spews is objectively clear and not needed.

[@T1Slam]

@@zacktelander i wish there would be a way to see how his trainings result on the trainees in an objective way in terms of numbers. Does he even has programs or every single training day exercises are completely new (he can literally create a computer program that could randomly generate both exercises and their scientific explanations indefinitely). I think if someone would measure in terms of regular squat/deadlift/bench press he could just wave results off by pretence that their improvement wasn't the goal of training, but I'm still very interested in specifics of chaos and anti-chaos dynamics though - that is an interesting subject.

[@alextheguy1858]

@@T1Slam "Try incorporating the chaos and anti-chaos band method. And just in case you were wondering I refer to these the anti-chaos method primarily because you have to eliminate all of the chaotic energy and bouncing by moving incredibly slow and smooth." aka Control and working Stabilizers.

[@TheSeandog1234]

I accidentally mis-loaded the bar yesterday while squatting. Had an extra 5 pounds on one side. Little did I know I was actually just doing one of the most brutal core destroyers in history. Epic Joel Seedman moment!

[@jarodnewman5535]

Zack, as an Australian I say this from the bottom of my heart; I would have a beer with you.

[@akv-e5t]

As a Brazilian I would have cachaça with you.

[@frankross5507]

I cry every time he puts ECCENTRIC and ISOMETRIC like yes Joel there is an eccentric and isometric part to every lift

[@Hairy.Whodini]

I love that each of his exercises require ALL OF THE GYM EQUIPMENT.

[@119nicos]

Maaaaannnn i am soooo thankful a legitimate coach is doing a vids on this guy !! Its mind blowing how much support he gets in his comments !!

[@Cj-nj6cv]

He deletes all the joke comments and the comments that rightfully call him an idiot.

[@119nicos]

@@Cj-nj6cv exactly ! I used to comment (politely) that I disagree with how he trains people and why and they always got deleted, it's a joke

[@TehRealChruZ]

RP's Dr. Mike Isreatel also namedropped him in a negative way which is great

[@SuperSilver316]

Oh I need to hear that video

[@goldpeen2661]

Another reason Mike ''Hatchet Head'' Isreatel is based.

[@questionableethnicity2268]

You're just jealous you didn't come up with the Chaos/Anti-Chaos Method.

[@zacktelander]

im talking to my therapist about it ok man?

[@questionableethnicity2268]

Please ensure your therapist is aligned with the proper force vectors

[@Veritas1992]

@@questionableethnicity2268 Are you talking about gravity/anti-gravity? It’s ground breaking in the aeronautical engineering world. It’s what makes planes fly.

[@Morrigan070671]

To me, an Agent of Chaos serves one of the Ruinous Powers of the 41st millennium. Is this Seedman fellow such a person?

[@AfferbeckBeats]

He travelled through the warp and saw demons working out with imbalanced barbells that twisted reality. He's become obsessed. Perhaps... posessed.

[@Morrigan070671]

@@AfferbeckBeats Could he really had beheld the temptations which the Ruinous Powers offer and be unchanged?

[@blackheartscars]

INQUISITION OPEN UP

[@simonbeauregard391]

IN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF THE FAR FUTURE

[@bobboberson6664]

Exterminatus has been approved

[@theodorehoffer6810]

This reminds me of when "muscle confusion" was hot. Always chasing novel exercises You get delayed onset muscle soreness to make you feel like you've made progress. And if you're always trying something new you always get newbie gains in your dumbshit exercises. As an added bonus they don't have to compete with people who spend years perfecting their lifts.

[@tapwater424]

I mean having a diverse range of movements in the long run will develop a balanced physique, but you don't have to juggle on top of bosu balls or foam rollers to develop your entire body.

[@MrCmon113]

I've seen people randomize their exercises. That way the muscles can't anticipate what's coming.

[@usernameluis305]

@@MrCmon113 this logic doesnt even make sense anymore. Reminds me of "brawndo, its got what plants crave, its got electrolytes"

[@94jmh]

Keep talking about these types of guys. As a strength and conditioning student, it’s appreciated

[@Allr3dc]

This dude is the Qanon of the fitness industry

[@X3RUBIM]

I havent had a laugh this good for a year, this is truly amazing.

[@KYRsm00ve]

Zack I'm not gonna say I told you so, but I told you so. The only way to win is by dunking on those who challenge us. Take Garret for example: a 12 year old swimmer who spells his name with one T instead of two. I made him do 20 100m sprints on a 1:10 base. He told me that he could not hold that pace. I told him his name is spelled with 1 T and no one cares what a Garret with one T has to say. Was he right...Absolutely. He didn't even manage to get through 4 before he fell off the pace. I punished him for not making it through the set by forcing him to spell his name with two Ts. He had to swim 10 200's fly, and every breath he took he had to give one letter of his name. If he didn't spell his name with two Ts, he had to start that 200 over again. Garret may have had a point that this set was too hard for him, but using my position of power I ensured that his point was not well taken. Garrett should always be spelled with two Ts.

[@AlteredState1123]

“There’s a sucker born every minute.” -P.T. Barnum.

[@NewPhoneWhoDs]

Dr. Joel Seedman Ph.D. I follow the eccentric and isometric protocols and my knees, adductors, and groin are overall much better. I also gained muscle mass and I can jump higher.

[@julien2983]

I love that video you did with Allan! Seedman is my go to example of a fitness charlatan when explaining to ppl why the most simple approach is often the most effective.

[@raymakerscalisthenics5042]

Joel Seedman is the epitome of why I'm mostly moving out of the fitness industry as a gymnastics and strength coach full-time. The more established I get in my city (Halifax, Nova Scotia), the more bullshit I get exposed to similar to this. It's exhausting, and you simply CANNOT fan through all of it.

[@Mufuchi]

Joel Seedman is art

[@alexanderohgren1403]

i am a simple man, i see giraffe post video, i click, i click like. easy

[@fanboy680]

Interesting of you to make this video Zack, especially since I have never seen you Single-leg-single-arm-barbell-RDL-rowing your bodyweight. Hmmmm

[@joshl9529]

these are "exercises" i would have if i was faking being an elite trainer guru. like if someone's asking me on the spot

[@cosmicalian]

(Don't want to tell my client how weak my bench press is) Uuuh I can do a 1.5 plate bench while balancing on a foam roller and a bosu ball

[@shareenjakehibbard]

Dude your video with Allen made me laugh so hard! Those pullups when your kicking the bands xD the slapping sounds had me rolling. You have to make this a character

[@WhoopsICommented]

You missed the muscle snatch with a trap bar... I stop by Joel's channel once a week for a good laugh, it's better than the gym meme pages.

[@robertfleming9310]

Chaos/Anti-Chaos is the best

[@chrisdawson9312]

Just read the article bro!!

[@Ev.McAfee]

This guy received a PhD at the university I currently attend. I feel so ashamed.

[@benjaminw2354]

Did he get a PhD in like history??? i can't believe he did anything related to fitness

[@OmarBKar-sw1ij]

Probably a phd in art or some useless shit

[@ejfields7666]

@@benjaminw2354 No, he has a PhD in kinesiology but that doesn’t validate anything he does

[@connordavenport3808]

@@benjaminw2354 I reached out to his school about his PhD. The department head looked at his work and said that he doesn't represent any of the things they taught at the school. He's literally just making it up.

[@getstrongby4038]

@@connordavenport3808 haha it would be great to make that response public

[@JuanyJuanes]

This is one of the best fitness vids I’ve seen in a long time. You’re the first to mention set up. Notice how Joel never shows setup. It must take forever- I will cut an exercise out of my routine if the setup disrupts the workout too much

[@miskee11]

11:35 I actually did this silly exercise to train tire flips for a strongman competition back when I was nursing a small injury on my right hand in 2018. It's not a perfect tool at all, but it does allow you to train your leg drive in flipping tires when injured. The main problem is that you need to load it with huge amounts of weight to simulate a heavy tractor tire, and those rings or TRX ropes are not designed to handle a 400+ kilogram tension, so you end up risking more injuries doing it -- unless you're lucky like me and actually have like 2 sets of TRX bands on both sides to hold the bar. There's also the reverse hack squat machine which is far superior, but it's a pretty rare and expensive machine to have for such a niche purpose.

[@alexyoung755]

Seedman’s chaos pull up reminds me of all the old old strongmen who’d do some new movement with homemade equipment like “look i made a new lift that only i can do”

[@crazyaboutgains157]

9:23 the way Zack says "maam" oh my godd, i died of laughter

[@dondigo8240]

“Specificity in convulsion”, I’m stealing that. Great video as well.

[@vicenteabdala]

When are you doing one about Kiriakos Grizzly??

[@prep0763]

Next do “fictional patterns” with everyone’s favorite POS Naudi Aguilar. Pure gold as always zack!!

[@clap5]

At first I didn’t mind him. Until he started slamming every training style that isn’t his. He’s a “movement specialist “. Not a strength and conditioning coach. He got a thing for the human gate cycle aka running. Cool bro, if I wanted to be a competitive jogger I’ll out some leggings on and jog with the rest of the soccer moms in the neighborhood.

[@yannickverstraete8784]

Reminds me of that captain Jack Sparrow meme: You must be the worst trainer I have ever heard of. Joel: Aha! but you have heard of me.

[@PL-up5ig]

I believe people is overthinking what Seedman is doing. Per example, the offset exercises that he is doing with the barbell aren't new, he only is doing offset exercises that are normally performed with a sledgehammer or a TRX Rip Trainer but with a barbell (he only change the equipment and presented it as something new). In addition, in the video, he also turned gymnastic rings and a barbell as a hack squad machine and he his doing abs rolling with an offset barbell instead of using an abs rollers wheel with turns. I believe are the same old exercises but with different equipments in order to present them as something new.

[@LarsTheSailorMan]

I really want to hear him talk about the athletes he trains and if and how they see progress. That’s really the most important thing. Looks to me it’s the Dr. Joel show

[@ClayHales]

With every exercise, I think the perfect response is the Ryan Reynolds "But why?"

[@staszewaM]

Or 'Stop it. Get some help'

[@ManOfEthnicity]

Every time you say "I see it" I just keep visioning the church scene from Blues Brothers.

[@CrazyAspyKid]

I love watching Dr yoels vids they are a good laugh

[@reubenwardle556]

My favourite exercise of his is the trap bar hang snatch

[@RamseyDewey]

I would have thought this was just a joke before seeing this video, but now I’m thinking there really may be a guy out there on the internet somehow attempting hang snatches with a trap bar.

[@RamseyDewey]

Oh my... I just noticed that Zack pinned a link to a video of said trap bar hang snatch. The legends were true after all! I’ll never doubt you again Ruben!

[@reubenwardle556]

@@RamseyDewey 😂😂

[@neutron1251]

Well said. Greetings from France.

[@michaelcabello9664]

As a strength & conditioning coach I have the same thoughts on a daily basis. S&C influencers are the snake oil salesmen of our time and our field. Just yesterday I saw Vernon Griffith describing a, “...hang clean received in a deep split squat position with rapid deceleration and an upright torso.” Or, as we would call it, a hang split clean or a split clean from the hang. There’s no need to make things so complicated unless you’re trying to jargon yourself into making clients.

[@solomondracul946]

Bro I immediately watched this lmao I love these videos. Eff that dude lol “do me a favor, don’t talk about weightlifting” is when I laughed. I feel the same way. Good video man. I can feel the seethe.

[@cedricmaugy2634]

at first these videos made me laugh, but now i'm just sad and disappointed that so few people see the non sense of these exercices... Thank you Zack keep the great work

[@AnthonyTran]

I might follow him for the LOLs 😂 Plz make this a series!

[@mattpeters6224]

We ALL have fun with these.

[@evy5618]

Please never stop making content x

[@Lil.Grandpa]

This guy is the embodiment of the “Guy Heaven” skit from MDE.

[@IrfanSehic]

In my heart of hearts, I believe that a typical squat is not good enough. I was squatting 405 4x8, deep, good form, and preached everyone DO squats, BUT I still had insane weaknesses in my groin, hips, hamstrings. Feeling strong and having to see my numbers go up is rewarding. Still, it's not until I started focusing on improving my stability/balance and addressing specific weaknesses by doing Copenhagen holds, Nordic curls, and many lunge variations (just to name the basics) that I saw significant improvements in how I feel playing sports and regular day-to-day. If the goal is to get big and look strong, sure linear progression, absolute strengths, yeahhhh, let's go! If the goal is improved athletic performance, IMO improving balance/stability and strength the way Joel Seedman is doing is the way to go.

[@friendlyoldbum9182]

In my opinion, "movement culture" is a far better option. Lee Weiland from Powerbatics or StrengthSide would be okay. Loads of functional stuff backed by loads of studies and papers on The Bioneer KZbin page aswell.

[@AlexanderBromley]

Judges?? Ah, you were so close! We were looking for 'what is a charlatan'

[@arouhwaanifs8255]

Nothing to do with Mr Seedman, I tried your patreon 12 week Superhuman program. Its great, and works perfectly (2nd time I run it now). Thanks for your content Zack Matt

[@JustAaronJoshua]

This is going to be good.

[@toddf.packer9394]

The Andy Kaufman of the fitness community. It will come out 10 years from now that he was the greatest troll the youtube fitness world has ever seen.

[@AfferbeckBeats]

I think this annoys us weightlifters because it's the opposite of what we're about. We're never trying to do 'the most brutal', we're trying to do the most efficient and consistent movement to the point of feeling almost effortless. Some of his stuff looks like it would make sense to train for a short time as rehab or to improve imbalances, but to spruik that as being the most effective method of all round training is just ridiculous.

[@philausopher_]

I could’ve sworn the title was “Agent of Chads”

[@SuperSilver316]

Thanks for your videos btw, they definitely helped me in my Journey back into the weight room and during quarantine!

[@ethanrosenberg6570]

everytime I see something from him I think that it has to be a sketch and he is one of the greatest parody accounts of our generation, but its all somehow unironic which is even better tbh

[@allstrongfitness]

It’s funny because I would do stuff like this as a joke Snapchat or something messing around in the gym to be funny. This guy is selling this is legit stuff. Let that sink in.

[@TheSonnyGo]

Khorne with the brutal weights, Tzeentch with the constant change.

[@GVS]

Hey Zack, here are my thoughts on your video: Nice, nice,nice....very good....nice, nice, NIIIICE!

[@OsaidSasi]

Like they say “ You can have a PhD and still be an idiot.”

[@jdmo741]

To me this is worse than being an idiot. This dude is smart he’s just such a garbage person he doesn’t mine selling bullshit to benefit himself.

[@SuperSilver316]

How does anyone send professional athletes to this guy.

[@joel5956]

If you've got an athlete who is overworking themselves and just needs to chill, send them to the Seedyman for a couple sessions each week. "Yeah, dude. Just, uh, do these rapid air bicep curls. They'll activate your hip drive or whatever." They'll be like sneaky rest days.

[@SuperSilver316]

You would think that Professional Sports teams would be able to cut through this kind of bullshit. Guess not, but the bicep curls are pretty hilarious!

[@Crave_Train]

It's actually incredible how much crazy shit this guy can come up with. Can we also talk about how he uses an eccentric-isometric tempo on every single exercise? Seems absurd when training high-end strength-power athletes that need the stretch reflex to excel on the field.

[@joelyoder7960]

The issue I have with this video is that strength coaches often fail to consider CONTEXT. An exercise physiologist I admire once told me "Watts are watts!" He was so enthusiastic about this measuring tool for power because it didn't matter if you were on the MOON, MOUNTAIN, or Ocean floor, the tool was applicable across all ENVIRONMENTS. Further, you can not use a measuring tool you do not understand. Take a SLIDE RULE, for instance, I have no idea how to use on, but if I didn't have access to a graphing calculator I would've had to learn how to use one to pass my math classes... Incremental increases in terms of volume in the weight room is one tool by which adaptation is defined. Most would agree that a STRONGER ATHLETE is a more optimal performer, however you can also find cases where increases in strength produce detrimental performance when the arena considered becomes specific. The GOAL as a performance coach should be to utilize all available tools and construct constraints so that many outcomes can be measured as objectively as possible. To a novice, a measuring tool that may have OBJECTIVITY may appear totally SUBJECTIVE. You cannot judge whether or not a measuring tool is working if you don't think the tool exists, or your AVAILABLE INFORMATION has led to such a conclusion. Most health professionals view LIFESTYLE modifications as a key component in both optimal performance and overall health. We agree that you must consume a certain amount of protein to build muscle, yet this is a lifestyle component that should largely not occur in the weight room... As a coach, when I challenged myself to create constraints with respect to movement and exercise that deviated from a traditional weight room culture, I discovered huge lifestyle improvements in terms of my short term memory, mental health, stress, efficiency, achievement and I became a more adaptable and complete organism. These are traits that can directly influence on-field performance AS WELL! The classical weight room approach seeks to entirely FILL ONLY ONE COMPARTMENT while leaving others very low. And this itself does not create high-quality, dynamic organisms. Even though you may not understand something, you need to step over your fear of encountering information that may disconfirm the biases you've built over your lifetime, and continue to seek available information. By demonstrating fear, you create a poor example for your athletes and the lives they should be learning to lead. (Remember, RICE is out the WINDOW... "DR. MIRKIN recanted his original position on the protocol in 2015!") The athletic training culture still lives in the DARK AGES and chances are that some of us may be as well! COMPLICATED, COMPLEXITY, and CHAOS are all different things.

[@michaelsenft3608]

Joel Seedman = Q’Anon. Alternative facts are always best, when reality is inconsistent with your personal interests.

[@danielgoodwin5902]

I'm holding out for the Reverse Angry Chaos Movement Technology

[@Seahawks1976]

Good video, I will say after years of beat up shoulders after powerlifting I shortened my range of motion on push-ups and pressing and my shoulders feel better, hypertrophy is up etc. anyway glad I found this channel:

[@Seahawks1976]

And I love weighted push-ups but seedman got lucky on that one

[@humanname6534]

Use Joel Seedman's exercises to establish dominance in any gym

[@whitebelt2905]

Great content Zach! Keep it up

[@lifterb6291]

Some of his articles start really funny. I checked his trap bar snatch article, he starts by saying "another crazy trap bar trick by Dr. Joel and allows to me explain before you called to be circus trick." he knows the trap bar snatch is the stupid circus movement. Also, he claims one of the best effecting Olympic weightlifting variations but not for the competitive Olympic weightlifter. This Dr makes an article knowing he will get tons of shit by weightlifter, so he focus to sell on athletes and fitness enthusiasts. The fitness industries are pretty stupid and I can't believe some people fell into this.

[@paulscustomfigures1704]

I’m a physical therapist and honestly Speedman’s exercise all revolve around core strengthening and stabilization. Of course they look weird but they are actually incredibly high level and difficult to perform. They will quite literally make your core muscles and spine bulletproof. Of course in my rehab facility I don’t do these same exercises because my patients aren’t athletes, but I promise if you give some of these exercises a try (minus the bodyweight flailing) you’ll be impressed with the results. Your MAX’s will go up and you back will feel better.

[@PL-up5ig]

The funny part is that most of the exercises presented in the video are normal old exercises performed with equipment that make them look strange. Per example: 1) the offset with the barbell are normally performed with a sledgehammer or a TRX Trainer; 2) he is using an offset weight barbell to do abs roller exercises instead of using a normal abs roller wheel and turn to the sides; 3) he turn gymnastic rings and a barbell into a hack squat machine.

[@Dr_Footbrake]

High level and difficult to perform don’t necessarily equate to effective though. Like . . . Juggling while riding a unicycle is both high level and difficult to perform but it won’t improve your vertical

[@duncan7961]

that guy looks so fun I'm going to follow him

[@Dad_Lyon]

I saw a guy with a trainer doing reverse, one-side loaded, barbell bench press (I think is how to describe it). I gawked for a minute and asked where he came up with that. The trainer looked worried and the guy doing said it smiled and replied it was rehab. I smiled, thanked the guy, and walked off. But I've always wondered if it was this "functional" training.

[@zee4125]

1:19 Bro that Ronnie edit had me rolling 😂

[@annabailey5745]

I said lol on one of his videos and he flipped out, called me uneducated, and told me to read an article😂While interning with my old strength coach at psu, he brought him up. He’s the biggest laughing stock of the ncaa. Wild

[@rutatutut]

I added chains to my 3 sets of squats this morning and felt like I might be getting too carried away.

[@FastTransformer]

If we are being honest, top tier athletes that have mastered all the basics and already have elite core strength MIGHT benefit from this with really hands-on coaching. For anyone else, this stuff is just dangerous

[@joshuapeek9555]

crazy how much joel and marcus filly are alike

[@selfemployed1338]

I'm going to stick with the gravity/anti-gravity training I've been doing. 😂 😂 Go Cats, Go!

[@jettfuelfitness]

When I first saw him use the phrase ‘chaos / anti-chaos method’ I thought the guy had just turned into a yugioh character

[@dom4956]

To the shadow realm

[@SuperSilver316]

Where he belongs

[@MrSpicabooo]

Like butters off southpark PROFESSOR CHAOS

[@landerhendrickx3522]

That pushup variation was so funny!

[@fachagarmin]

Yes Inquisitor, this guy here

[@SuperhumanUnchained]

Great video man

[@JohnSmith-yx8kf]

Functional fitness is the post-modernism of the gym world: purposefully overcomplicate things so nobody can understand what you're actually doing is disguising that there's nothing of substance underneath.

[@harryli5979]

Joel seedman is entertaining you can’t lie. It’s crazy what this guy comes up with😂😂and his responses in the comments. “Read the article” headass😭

[@ThePepsiman1000]

I wonder how many times I've heard "you need to FEEL your glutes" from functional coaches

[@scott_clarke]

Back at it

[@prasun911]

Here's a core workout for seedman, Hack squats... with offset weights, in chaos mode of course

[@pannonianfit1582]

Joel: chaos/anti-chaos Chinese weightlifting team: *write that down, write that down*