🧙When Targaryens dream, they see Daenerys: Pyres and Blood

When Daenerys walked out of Khal Drogo's pyre with three baby dragons, the entire world stopped and watched. In this video I look at why that may have happened and been seen in advance in the world of dreams and prophecy as well unraveling the mysteries of the Tragedy at Summerhall. Also answer why so many Targaryens turn up mad like Aerys the Mad King, Aegon V the Unlikely, and Aerion Brightflame.
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[@GrayArea]

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[@JoeMagician]

Watch out Harry Lloyd!

[@ygknight1478]

GrayArea thanks

[@Bookshelfstudios]

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[@careydanna4924]

Thanks for Sharing!!!👍👍👍

[@sweetsu3s]

Could these visions be about Danny's final funeral pyre? The one we have not seen yet. It seems the symbolism is pointing to a final pyre for love. Maybe Jon's pyre. It would seem someone is going to become an actual dragon. I just hope it isn't Ghost in the pyre with Jon and Melisandre instead of a stallion and Mirri Maz Duur. The antidote to the Others?

[@nmvidro]

*slaps wild fire flask* This bad boy can hatch sooo many dragons 😏 Aerion: *Drinks it*

[@Levacque]

Also maybe the salesman shouldn't slap vessels of wildfire. That'd be dangerous in and of itself.

[@yetipotato8567]

"WELL THEN LET IT BE FINISHED!!" and GULPS it down

[@yetipotato8567]

Or maybe he tossed a bottle of beer in well prepaired foreproof dragon hatching furnace a and drinks deep from wildfire

[@jonsacramone4429]

Kings In The North HATE this guy

[@fuckoffGoogle-FOG]

instructions unclear 🤷‍♀

[@melledevries4685]

I believe that, if GRRM were to live for another seventy years, we'd see a number of new Dunk and Egg stories, the last one revealing what really happened at the Tragedy at Summerhall. I think that's a logical thing for that series to build up to.

[@chafrey8532]

I think the summer hall reveal in the final dunk and egg would be the last story grrm would write if he were to get there.

[@Argos-xb8ek]

@@chafrey8532 A true bittersweet finale

[@killerjob12]

Well we know Dunk & Egg both die at the tragedy At Summerhall so that would be a logical end to the tales of Dunk & Egg 🤣

[@Levacque]

Most likely, yes. I think we'll get some significant hints during the final two ASOIAF books, but the full mystery will be held back until Egg's life story is told.

[@hugoguzman4985]

lmao yeah and we still wouldn't have the Winds of Winter

[@43Habsfan]

I do love the idea of r'hllor on the other side of the flames from Melisandre being like, "it's fucking Jon, dumbass."

[@trisarathops]

Great impression of R’hllor’s struggle with one particular minion of his at 06:45 😂🙈👍

[@JoeMagician]

I'd like it if the skulls around Jon's face aren't a warning but R'hllor being frustrated and sending angry emojis.

[@alanpennie8013]

Melisandre Sufficiently misinformed to be a suitable pov character.

[@made-line7627]

Not in this saga!

[@aldenrobelldeloyola1502]

I saw a tweet saying that the opening line by Viserys from the House of Dragon trailer was also a dream which he thought the dragon queen was pertaining to his daughter Rhaenyra (naming her as his heir), but didnt know it was Dany in his dream

[@JoeMagician]

Yup! That's what I think, I also put it in my last video.

[@EvanSol919]

I hadn't thought about Aerys having prophetic dreams before. Excellent video.

[@tworavens6854]

Danny was 'Stormborn' - but was also a perfect storm of events that combined to hatch dragons. Her ancestors saw flashes of the event only and tried to re-create that moment in time. But how many combinations and permutations of outcomes had to happen in a specific pattern for that 'magical' event to succeed? Her special song....

[@AzkuulaKtaktu]

Stormborne

[@tworavens6854]

@pyropulse the entire dance of the dragons, summerhall, Danny’s mother dying, fleeing to the free cities….thousands of combinations bringing her to that moment - resulting in her eggs hatching & her not being burned by the fire. We don’t know how magic works in that world, let alone this “miracle” event, as GRRM called it. Was it Drogos body burning, was it Miri Maz Dur burning? What brought her to Drogo….is there something about his blood/heritage that we don’t know yet? Even in reality, a thousand little things happening brings you to a moment.

[@rustyk4645]

@@tworavens6854 Mirri, Drogo and her unborn child. 3 lives for 3 lives.

[@tworavens6854]

@@rustyk4645 Yes! But was their blood important? Mirri Maz Dur was not only a godswife, a maegi - blood magic, learned shadow binding from Asshai & studied with Archmaester Marwyn. We don’t know Drogos blood lineage….but he was mighty “Strong/old gods”, maybe. Her unborn child….who really knows what the dark magic did to its blood? The series continually mentions bloodlines, the power of blood magic, etc…GRRM explained the hatching of the dragon eggs & Danny surviving the fire pit as a “miracle”. When is anything that straight forward in GOT as 3 just = 3? Many combinations & permutations create an outcome.

[@rustyk4645]

@@tworavens6854 it's a Red, Green, Blue mix, always Strong.

[@emiliocamachoerice6380]

A Feast for Crows - Samwell IV Sometimes he would mutter in his sleep. When he woke he'd call for Sam, insisting that he had to tell him something, but oft as not he would have forgotten what he meant to say by the time that Sam arrived. Even when he did recall, his talk was all a jumble. He spoke of dreams and never named the dreamer, of a glass candle that could not be lit and eggs that would not hatch. He said the sphinx was the riddle, not the riddler, whatever that meant. He asked Sam to read for him from a book by Septon Barth, whose writings had been burned during the reign of Baelor the Blessed. Once he woke up weeping. "The dragon must have three heads," he wailed, "but I am too old and frail to be one of them. I should be with her, showing her the way, but my body has betrayed me." I think it's very important to note that aemon stumbled upon a major breakthrough in the prince that was promised prophecy solving without noticing, in the Sphinx which is a composite being and was the oldest symbol of valyria, and means that the prince that was promised with the blood of the Sphinx has both the blood of the dragon and the black blood of the skinchangers that's why there's a movement to put blackwood blood in the Targaryen family and why Jon was made

[@mayab3660]

But both rhaegar and daenerys has Blackwood blood,their great grandmother was Betha Blackwood. So why the need to make Jon?

[@stannisarcanine2167]

@@mayab3660I'm Emilio I agree with you I'll reply to you later because I think Jon and Danny can do things the other cannot I'll go into Jon on the rightful king video I'll do in this other channel I have for videos

[@bryantaylor9874]

Right or wrong this is one of the most original, well presented theories I've seen, and I've seen them all.

[@hollycooper7177]

Thanks 😊 this was very good! I love the whole dreams motif in this series. Taking the Targaryens' dreams across the centuries really shows the connections that the Targaryens had. It's a new way to look at their attempts to hatch dragons. I also think it increases Dany's importance in that she was successful. Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts!

[@JoeMagician]

Think it really shows their desperation and lack of knowledge at the time. They previously had the ability to do so, but then many of them died in war and civil war, Baelor burned the books that may have held the secret, and all they were left with was guesses that didn't pan out. And so they turned to the one magical thing they had, their dreams and prophecies, for an answer.

[@norarobinson3091]

Thanks to grey area for introducing us to this awesome channel

[@dcell2216]

Haaah! I love the "countless eyes"witnessing the rebirth of dragons concept. A magical phenomona crossing space and time maybe synonym to somekind of worship power fueling something, in this case the birthing of a magical creature from stone. Some stories like "American Gods touch on the base that gods recieve strenght trough worship from people. Having countless greenseers, Priests, Mages and what more traveling trough space and time to observe such an important moment in time could perhaps create somekind of magical bubble, interacting with something magical like the eggs in the real world. Awesome.

[@alexstewart9747]

wow dude. Thanks for your thought provoking narrative throughout the vid. That creepy music too. Im so glad I found your channel.

[@TheTam0613]

Joe, I've been a fan of yours since I first started getting involved in GOT. But I am chronically ill with massive fatigue, and I would listen to your podcasts and fall asleep only due to their length, not due to your amazing work in the slightest!!! It's March, 2020 and I've started to listen to all of your videos, and I'm so incredibly thankful that I did!! Your work is fantastic, full of thought, insight, an open mind, and brilliance! Thank you for everything you do!!! I feel like I'm having a conversation with someone who thinks in a similar vein as myself. Thank you.

[@jessicalowery3718]

He has a very smooth and calming voice . Kinda like being read to sleep. I listened to these ads well when I was very ill.

[@VinAbuqrq]

This is closely related to a theory I had for a while that I always liked but don't talk much because it's not only tinfoil, but also because it would be impossible to prove in the narrative, that is: The Long Night never happened and the legends we have of it stem from ancient greenseers watching the "current events" from the Weirwoods. Over that light, the Wall was built in order to prevent the Long Night, and not after it. Azor Ahai, the Last Hero, the Prince that was Promised are not the same person occurring at the same time, but rather, possible and excludent futures that our protagonist Jon Snow will have to choose which to follow. That is, Jon will have to choose: a) looking for the Children of the Forest for rescue b) killing Daenerys to forge a magic weapon c) Whatever the Prince that was Promised is supposed to do d) Something new. [my guess: Something the Weirwoods could never see because it demands the destruction of the Weirwoods] But the best part is the follow through: The Night's King is the consequence of choosing the Azor Ahai path. He returns to the Wall, falls for a Wight Daenerys and is brought down not by Bran the Breaker, but Bran the Broken. After thousands of years of oral legends, the details are fuzzy and too diluted into culture. For all I know, "Joramund" could as well be an exiled "Jorah Mormont" too.

[@kaitlyncrossley5726]

This is a pretty interesting theory, and one I’ve yet to come across.

[@RW77777777]

I know what's causing the anomaly; it's like the chicken and the egg Will, the chicken & the egg!!

[@beevie4081]

That theory makes my hairs stand on end. How creepy and fascinating.

[@ruvend2581]

I watched multiple of your videos a while back but the Larys video got me to watch some older ones of you I haven’t watched yet. And I LOVE it. This video might be one of my favorite asoiaf videos (and I have watched way too many) and it looks like I have to watch all your other videos I haven’t seen (at all or for a long time) because the quality is so high

[@morlath4767]

Alt Shift X mentioned this video in their latest upload. Now I've watched it, and you've got a fan and a new subscriber!

[@JoeMagician]

Welcome aboard!

[@SingingSealRiana]

My guesses, incest, confused instincts due to there dragon blood and the strain of a bond with a dragon that is a two way street, every one in itself enough to tear someones sanity apart, the combination is downright desastrous

[@himynameisrev]

I think the main irk I have with this is that clearly previous Targaryens didn’t do Dany’s ritual to birth dragons. Rhaenyra hatched quite a large number without killing any kings. I guess it doesn’t detract from the main premise that everyone has been watching Dany hatch her eggs on Prophecy TV though

[@JoeMagician]

That's a good point, in my mind after the two Targaryen civil wars and the oft overlooked purge of knowledge by Baelor the Blessed, they really didn't have any idea how it worked. They kept doing the eggs in the cribs, put the eggs back in Dragonstone, but nothing. So they turned to Daeron who at least at some level was magical.

[@alanpennie8013]

@@JoeMagician Baelor the Destructive. Did some greenseer meddle with his mind to turn him into a weapon against his own family?

[@JoeMagician]

@@alanpennie8013 Possibly, I tend to think he tried to avoid the need for dragons. Like if dragons coming signals the end times and the new Long Night, then if they never return there won't be a long night. Or he was trying to suppress knowledge in order to protect the dragons that he was trying to hatch.

[@alanpennie8013]

@@JoeMagician That makes sense (if "sense" is the right word in this context).

[@Sisi4360]

maybe you can explain...Osha was carrying Bran to the weirwood tree...doing that time the comet flew over them...Bran looks into the water and saw Arya's face...this has always bothers me...why did this happen???

[@Complex_Vixen]

I absolutely luv the way u take everything from the books and bring them to life!! You and Gray are great when u podcast together as well: u 2 are definitely in my top 5 GOTs go to’s for updates and just deep talk about the show and books storyline

[@brandonlambert9768]

It's been over a year, and I'm still not over what befell our beloved Dragon Queen, the Queen we choose.

[@SeptaShaenasSapphires]

The voice actor for the Pyromancer voice talking about the 🐉 almost makes me believe in magic.

[@Y0DAV3]

Fun fact; the actor that plays the pyromancer in the series, Roy Dotrice also reads the ASOIAF audio books.

[@williamwhitfield6225]

@@Y0DAV3 To be honest I think they could have gone a better direction with the audio books.

[@tony3483]

Amazing, dare I say, magical. Fantastic readings, narration, and the art is spectacular. Brain exploding to many thoughts.. great work

[@calikal1968]

Seeing a notification from your channel is always a joy!!! This vid makes so much sense!!! Thanks! Can’t wait for the live stream!

[@pinkbunny6272]

Absolutely loved the way you set up the words , music and sounds! Amazing!

[@JoeMagician]

Thank you so much!

[@kingk9407]

I think they feed into the “ greatness “ of their house and it makes them determined that they are more than what they are at times

[@pangea439]

Thank you for another video with such great content, I was waiting for it

[@JoeMagician]

Subtitles..........I'll see if I can turn those on. Thank you Adela :)

[@alessandrorossi7135]

Paranoiad about Tywin and afraid of swords... maybe he dreamed of a lion stabbing him?

[@JoeMagician]

A golden man with a sword killing him in his throne room.

[@yatisnow5683]

Maegor Targaryen was NOT a bad king! He did what he had to do. If he didn’t do what he did the Targaryens would of been killed off! He gets such a bad wrap!

[@SingingSealRiana]

Well, not compleatly undeserved. He is like the opposite of Dany, well in how he is percived, actualy they are quite similar . . .

[@marthataylor3565]

@@SingingSealRiana what about how he treated his wives?

[@branthebeardedbuilder6813]

Aerys building the second wall is reminiscent of antonines wall built after emperor Hadrian died. Who build Hadrians wall

[@JoeMagician]

I didn't know, that cool connection!

[@alanpennie8013]

@@JoeMagician The difference is that the Antonine Wall, silly idea though it was, actually did get built.

[@himynameisrev]

Long time no see Joe! Welcome back, this was certainly thought provoking, I hope I’m not just wanting it to be true

[@FixinTwo]

Who is the 1 down vote? That's ridiculous. This was a fantastic video.

[@sweetsu3s]

Could these visions be about Danny's final funeral pyre? It seems the symbolism is pointing to a final pyre for love. Maybe Jon's pyre. It would seem someone is going to become an actual dragon. Maybe Nisa Nisa was the first dragon....

[@sweetsu3s]

This is where I called the Dany Dragon theory!!

[@Levacque]

That's an interesting thought. It would truly be a sacrifice to kill your dragon to gain a magic sword in the face of the first Long Night. Like sure, it seemed to work, he seemed to get the sword he needed, but he would have had to give up a very valuable asset against the cold in order to do so.

[@roebuckmckinney]

Wait. Wait wait wait. Drogo's pubes are "cream and gold"? That's suspiciously Valyrian.

[@coltendavison4351]

Drogo is a secret Targaryen?

[@coltendavison4351]

Would explain the half- dragon human baby still birth and King's blood

[@ladyevolett]

Very interesting. I agree that there's been a lot of dreaming and a lot of misinterpretation going on. Melisandre does not like dreaming and hopes to be free of it in the future, yet like the Targs, she too is focused on waking dragons from stone. I noticed a while ago that she seems to be less interested in the Nissa Nissa aspect of the forging of Lightbringer, opting for a symbolic version of the legend - the sword through the heart of the Mother of the Seven she burned. Selyse should have been her logical target for empowering the sword, barring that, Shireen - well more like Shireen because Stannis does not care for his wife, but he does care for his daughter. Instead, Mel is bent on acquiring King’s blood to fulfil the goal of waking dragons. I’ve been wondering if her obsession stems from a prophecy she read in Asshai or whether she saw it in her flames, perhaps even in an unsolicited dream. Her (and the Targs) focus on waking dragons all round also casts doubt on the supreme importance of Lightbringer this time round. Rhaeghar finds out that he has to be a warrior but from what we know, he was preoccupied with obtaining another child for his three-headed dragon. There is no mention of a sword. It’s a new Long Night. The current Night King and his crew might be more powerful than the previous one. Dealing with him might require additional measures in addition to the sword, hence the emphasis on dragons rather than swords. What do you think?

[@theinvisiblewoman6783]

What I don’t understand is why Melisandre doesn’t already know “dragons waking from stone” has already come true. Dany birthed dragon from stone eggs.

[@HelenWA]

@@theinvisiblewoman6783 because she is inept and only listens to the parts she wants to hear

[@branwykblackwood7882]

This is magnificent work. I can't wait for the live stream. Ive watched this twice now. 😂👍

[@JoeMagician]

You're a brave soul, i couldn't listen to me talk that much haha

[@branwykblackwood7882]

@@JoeMagician c'mon your voice is calming and your words are brilliant.

[@bastianzorf8071]

great video and i really love the piano backround, pulls you into the mystery much

[@kristiancarter5961]

Probably one of the best videos I've watched on this topic. I love all your videos but this one was really special

[@JoeMagician]

Wow, thank you!

[@dpeoples81]

In light of what we know now, could the Mad King have been seeing his daughter burn King's Landing and seeing himself reborn in the flames as Drogon?

[@JoeMagician]

Absolutely, I may have not been thinking big enough

[@marcospaulotome506]

One of the best videos on the matter out there ! Congratulations man !

[@JoeMagician]

Right on Marcos :) More to come, not done yet. The livestream is going to be straight fire.

[@diepie5144]

Something that struck me about Dany’s dream was it’s similarities to Bran’s during his coma. The three eyed raven also urged him to be faster, and both dreams ended in flight. Something else is that the description of the “crystal emperor” reminds me of characters from genesis in the Bible, while descent can be traced from Adam to Abraham, older characters tend to live longer, with Noah living for over four hundred years. Another thing is that most Jewish Rabbis after that these characters most likely didn’t really live, and that the stories they tell should rather be taken as stories, with lessons being learned from each.

[@prestoncox585]

Excellent work, my friends.

[@comradeconrad3636]

Hope your having a good vacation comrade. Decided to dive into some old content tonight and catch up on some videos I missed.. your video the wild wolves is what brought me to your channel which is still my favorite theory but what I'm trying to say is this is just reminding me why I love your channel in the first place. Good catch on Aemon curiously leaving out one sibling, that is something that passed my notice. Cheers comrade. As always thank you. Can we bring this piano back?

[@stephanieh.3884]

Soooo good!!! Your best yet!

[@jessicaolson8749]

Listening again. Best asoiaf video ever!

[@brandonlambert9768]

Varys didn't help Dany flee to Essos, wasn't that Sir William Derry?

[@bronhaller]

LOVE your Hallyne voice!

[@spencerharrisondescales519]

Adressing Khal Drogo not being an actual King. In the first book when the Dothraki blood ritual witnessed Daenerys consume the stallion's heart before Drogo, the Dosh Khaleen and other assembled Dothraki, the language spoken contradicts this. When the signs are interpreted by the Dosh Khaleen favourably and Daenerys is making admirable progress with the heart, they begin to lead the other Dothraki in chanting "a prince (Khalakka) rides". From this we can deduce that the literal translation of "Khal" in Dothraki into Westerosi is "King". If Drogo and Daenerys were perceived as anything other than King and Queen of the Dothraki, how could their progeny be a Prince? Furthermore, Drogo himself denigrates Viserys as the "Khal Raggat" (Cart King) and the "Khal Rhae Mhar" (Sore Foot King), so the linguistic correlation of Khal and King is not a without compelling historical precedent in the writings of G.R.R.M. Therefore, Khal Drogo ought absolutely to be considered as a King, even in the Westerosi reckoning of the concept of Kingship. Thus, the vision of a dead King atop a pyre surrounded by dragons eggs is soundly comprehended.

[@sunshinesilverarrow5292]

Such a good video, thank you both so much! Hugs & sunshine ☀️N

[@BlueBlonde267]

Awesome info!!!! More , more, MORE!!!

[@blackeyedlily]

Excellent! I will put the livestream on my calendar and I need to listen again to your Aemon the Dreamer video.

[@cedricthomas4867]

U hit on a recurring theme “ that magic was going dormant in Westeros , Starting probably from whatever happened at the 14 flames , I don’t believe that pyromancers had dragon knowledge though , they would have capitalized... BUT THE magic ebbing & flowing in Westeros is integral to what is going on.

[@wesleymons]

Brilliant work!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@neilbodwell9172]

Kind of a random place to say it but I am not entirely certain Aerion the "bright" prince was mad....I think he was just a product of his upbringing and that's why he acted the way he did. He grew up on an intellectual diet of "how awesome Targaryen's are" and so naturally if he got drunk enough drinking wildfire to become a dragon might sound like a reasonable idea. I've met people that come from families who have a better history of mental stability than the Targaryens who occasionally get nearly that stupid when drinking. I mean he was raised on that whole "Targaryen exceptionalism" stuff, and like we saw in ancient Rome of our world, sometimes folks just believed it a little too well. That whole "drinking the cool-aid" euphemism we have at least here in the United States. And with Aerion it sort of makes sense, just look at what happened after Ser Duncan the Tall decided to do the right thing and call him out on his bullshit. Everyone still got all pissed off about how he put hands to a Prince, nobody denied that it was totally the right thing to do, except Aerion, but still they did the whole trial of 7 thing instead of telling Aerion he was being a several forms of shitbag and letting the matter be. So that sounds more like a sense of entitlement rather than him being insane given that everyone knew what he was about. They knew he was being an ass but just let it slide.

[@shirleyshine1285]

Wow wow wow

[@elvergalarga6016]

I interpreted that as literal snow, like static in the fire but also because they’re so tired of the cold and surrounded by snow and ice

[@Levacque]

But "Snow" is capitalized. She's definitely referring to seeing Jon in the fire.

[@ardaraith]

What adorable intro music!

[@JoeMagician]

I was going for dramatic, but adorable works too

[@ardaraith]

Joe Magician It’s very whimsical and fairytale like. It goes well :)

[@whatsit101]

great one!

[@samiai8905]

I've always liked this theory and through a casual rewatch I remembered another event that's going to happen that echoes this as well: The Burning of Shireen. The same elements are there - a King, a royal baby, a girl on fire, hatching dragons from stone, and the explicit understanding that this will be a failure. And this will be be the case because, like with Egg at Summerhall and Azor Ahai and the Long Night, a sacrifice was FORCED instead of CHOSEN. I wonder if the reason Mel thinks this will work is bc of Daeny's prophecies make its way to Asshai - and wouldnt't it? They would definitely be interested in them

[@erikeliasson4739]

This aged beautifully! xD

[@LyricalXilence]

Do you believe Targaryen madness is overblown or its legit? I don't count Maegor as a crazy one nor Aegon V; whats the difference between what he tried to do and what Dany did? She succeeded that all. Aerys was crazy as was whoever broke that poor girls fingers and later drank wild fire.

[@SingingSealRiana]

I think it is legit, but not in the same way for everyone. Maegor was pretty fucked up, but he was Master of his destructive instincts utelising the so he was not insane, but clearly not of a healty mind either. Rhegar started fine and than went out of the window with Lyanna and the war. Dany starts fine, goes on to do illogical things and become murderous but for us seeing her good intentions and it mostly working out, ehe gets marked as not effected, what I hardly doubt. In my book, a lot of the acounted signs of mad and cruel Tagaryens actualy are based on misguided dragoninstinct, dragons just are not ment to live in a human society and I will never get why poeple thought they would make great kings . . . Incest and a quite probable geneticly inherited disposicion for some form of scizophrenia does not help there . . . Like at all.

[@theinvisiblewoman6783]

I think it’s legit. But I think most get the why wrong. I think Maegor for example was crazy because Visenya conceived him with blood magic. Which led him to having his deformed children. I think many “mad” Targaryens were misguided by their dragon dreams . I think Aerys had plenty of reason to be paranoid watch all the major houses plot against him with marriages tying other major families together and he fell into schizophrenia from his trauma. Maybe it’s tin foil but I think all of the Targaryens don’t have much choice besides marrying other magical bloodlines or keeping breeding in blood of old Valyria or they will have strange dragon hybrid children because old Valyria used blood magic to bond them to the dragons by making dragon riding families actually have dragon DNA. I think Dany was successful in hatching dragons because they needed Targaryen women to be around the eggs to do so. I can back it up forever with who they successfully have children with.

[@bryantaylor9874]

When the story of Summerhall is revealed I think allot of hearts will be crushed when they find out Egg planned to sacrifice baby Rheagar. 35 year old Aegon the 5th is allot closer to Aerys the 2nd than Egg. Dunk saved the baby but in doing so likely triggered a chain reaction leading straight to the tragedy. That's my theory at least. Nobody likes it bc the worship Egg but I'm convinced that's what will happen.

[@theinvisiblewoman6783]

I almost think the opposite. I think the Maesters sabotaged the dragons hatching and made sure the wildfyre got out of control. I think Egg was missing some key ingredients. Egg may have missed keeping the eggs warm long before attempting to hatch them. I think Egg missed the blood sacrifice and the corpse. I also think Dany being a woman was a contributing factor in it’s success. I don’t think wildfyre was needed at all.

[@stevesmith3659]

Nice analysis. Kudos to you, JM.

[@vivovicopico]

You’re awesome Joe!

[@PabloAlvestegui]

OK. I loved it!

[@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215]

This vid is why i stan joe the magician!!

[@conniesuper9892]

Omg,this is great!!! Thanks, man!!🤗

[@JoeMagician]

You're welcome Connie :)

[@careydanna4924]

Great Great Content that is Deeeppp!!! Wow!!! Awesome!!! But clarification Question, how Will this play or will this play a part in the Prequel because of the History of GOT and season 8 because soo much we don't know as well?? *I know Season 8 is Very close and the Prequel will be very interesting, I might be getting ahead but a lot of info. *Wildfire, Dragonfire, Eggs, Mad King, & prophecies.

[@vanessaamesty6739]

This is good and makes sense, is a being is sending the dream? like a warning?

[@alanpennie8013]

Vanessa Amesty We know this is the case for Bran and Dany so it's likely the case for some if not all of the other dreamers.

[@garydevine605]

I like to think that egg was actually successful in his attempt, and it was a newly hatched dragon that laid waste to summerhall before it died in the fire it made. That would be an ending worthy of the dunc and egg series.

[@thedragonsdaughter7102]

Nice

[@heliopolitan444]

Omg this is some juicy content! 👏🔥🆎🔥🆎 Keep it up!!

[@TheBigToe69]

The dream that Egg has as King of a dragon being born at Summerhal is either Rhaegar or Jon Snow. Just like his brothers before him, the dream wasn’t a literal dragon but a person with the capability to rule and rule well.

[@fakearya9158]

Great video, as usual! I wrote a similar essay a few months ago, which was influenced by your Whisper Jewels video. I have one more female character that ties into this idea. The magical recipe is real!! I think Egg was successful, I just don't think he got to see the dragon eggs hatch like he hoped. The eggs were made fertile and I think Summerhall reawoke magic into the world. So he was successful, just not in the way he was hoping. But I do not believe Dany's dragons would have hatched without Summerhall.

[@branthebeardedbuilder6813]

You mean melisandre recipe? A king and his son Must did? In that order

[@fakearya9158]

@@branthebeardedbuilder6813 lol no not that recipe. There's basically a whole cookbook.

[@alanpennie8013]

Fake Arya Good catch. I agree.

[@TheTam0613]

Egg never had Dany's three eggs?

[@nicoledavis8055]

Wow this is amazing

[@emi7916]

i'm deep into hotd conspiracy videos now and recently watched one that was theorising if melisandre could be alys rivers. i don't really see how/ why that would be true but I think it's interesting that when melisandre is asked what she sees in her fires she says "much and more" and aemond tells daemond that his alys sees "much and more".

[@adithya5348]

Who's here from Alt Shift X?

[@JoeMagician]

❤️ Hope you enjoy my video too!

[@lesliegay9476]

me too!!

[@siRrk1337]

this shit is fucking calming, nice choice of music.

[@johnnywalker1333]

I Love Your Videos

[@asmahk76]

Brilliant video!

[@cedricthomas4867]

So do we know if heat was needed to hatch the eggs or is that just when they are old , how long do they last ?

[@idontuploadanym0re]

SPOILERS FOR CRITICAL ROLE CAMPAIGN 3 this wonderful video is making me think of the storyline of Laura Bailey’s character from the third campaign of the D&D webshow Critical Role. the character in question, Imogen, has been having recurring dreams of a red storm of ill-omen. while the player characters have been grasping at straws, the online fandom has theories that the dreams stem back to Ruidus, a red moon of ill-omen. Ruidus is likely the remnant of a long-forgotten plot of Critical Role’s betrayer gods (the evil-aligned deities of the story). whatever’s happening with Imogen likely is related to this. she was not alone in her dreams. in fact, there are existing academic studies in-universe which speak of the red storm dreams as a widespread occurrence. one of the people involved in those studies was her mother, who has been absent Imogen’s entire life. i’ll admit, these comparisons are mostly just my nerd-brain making connections between two stories i love. but i think Matthew Mercer (the dungeon master for Critical Role) and GRRM are on the same wavelength regarding collective prophetic dreams. EDIT: for a bit more context, Imogen is a sorcerer with the aberrant mind subclass!

[@idontuploadanym0re]

Critical Role is no stranger to ASOIAF-esque stories. look no further than campaign 1, in which a necromancer lady and her vampiric lord husband take out a royal family Red Wedding style. they then take over the city the family once ruled (a la the Boltons) and stay in power until the last remaining son of the family Percival, returns and reinstates his family’s rule. his sister Cassandra was also there the whole time under the thumb of the usurpers. i think you can see where i’m going with this (Percival=Jon, Cassandra=Jeyne Pool, usurpers=Boltons).

[@joshgrimm9721]

Good video good theory.

[@mmmab1000]

Great job

[@lewiscruickshank2745]

great video :)

[@ClintSprayberry]

Joe!!!!!! Hurray a new video!

[@AwakeAtTheWheel]

You rock! 🤘🏻

[@MobyDicksWife]

Fantastic comment, but I found it almost impossible to listen to. Having the annoying, repetitive music in the background was so bad I could only listen in about 10 minute stints. If you must have a musical background, perhaps a long piece softly playing, not a two or three bar loop.

[@JoeMagician]

Thank you, appreciate the feedback

[@made-line7627]

@@JoeMagician I like it 👌🏻

[@bakewithela8327]

Good stuff.

[@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215]

That pyromancer voice now haunts my nightmarea

[@AlgrenTheBlue]

You said Maegor was the worst, but I would honestly say Aegon the Unworthy did a lot more bad for the entire realm than Maegor did overall. Arguably Maegor is the only reason we had King Jaehaerys I, instead of his brother Aegon the Uncrowned, who was in my opinion and understand really similar to Aenys

[@scottofgreywaterwatch1298]

2nd and stoked!

[@roddammit5510]

First! The suspense is killing me lol.

[@krakentacos]

Great video, Matt Is there any evidence that Ned might have opened a 3rd eye while he was in the dark dungeon?

[@JoeMagician]

Gratzie. None I can think of off hand. He did have a few fever dreams...? The TOJ ones come in that time.

[@krakentacos]

It’s curious that all the Stark kids have some kind of connection to this power but not Ned or his brothers. Maybe we will learn more about Ned’s dream in TWOW

[@alanpennie8013]

@@JoeMagician It would certainly be a surprise if Ned's dreams referred much more to some other event (in the past or the future) than to what he actually encountered at the TOJ. Would be interesting tinfoil

[@ygknight1478]

Good video

[@made-line7627]

What colour would opal be considered as? There are so many different types of opals. C'mon, George!

[@dakotamatthews8952]

Amazing